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(master - dae9da8 #4163 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/95958944 00:03:06 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:10:38 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 00:11:46 -!- tedric has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:12:36 -!- tedric has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:11 -!- uJellie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:24 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-739-gdae9da8 (34) 00:28:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:33:13 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:39:21 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:43:24 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:59:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:38 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-739-gdae9da8 (34) 01:07:52 -!- apparatus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:13:14 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:28:20 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:36 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:34:50 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36:39 @??hell sentinel 01:36:39 Hell Sentinel (071) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 121-164 | AC/EV: 25/3 08(spiny 5d4) | Dam: 40, 25 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2900 | Sp: hellfire (3d20) [06!sil], iron shot (3d33) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 01:36:49 ???hell sentinel 01:36:49 ?hell sentinel ~ hell sentinel[1/1]: A rank 1 demon. Lots of AC, omniresistant, speed 10, spiny, casts hellfire and iron shot (but not torment). 01:38:07 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:19 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:42:32 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:35 -!- cobaltphoenix has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:04 -!- ogaz has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:46:55 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:48:41 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48:42 %git dd15e318631f2c3414435f92901ca3d9e4a3c7f0 01:48:42 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-113-gdd15e31: Don't overwite vaults with monster placements from layouts (#8908). 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dd15e318631f 01:49:10 I wonder if Grunt finally fixed that problem with monsters placing in walls etc that I used to see in mapstat/objstat 01:49:51 I recall it seems to be tied in particular to band monsters though 01:49:55 *seemed 01:54:25 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:45 I ran into that a lot when I added VAULTS layouts for crypt :P but haven't seen it elsewhere (primarily looking only at crypt though) 01:55:29 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm 01:55:56 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I wrote something to avoid putting band members in walls (not in mapstat, in the main game) a long time ago 01:55:59 johnstein: yeah in particular it happened a lot with Vaults layouts, I recall 01:56:22 oh, perhaps that was a fix; I haven't run a large objstat/mapstat job in some time though 01:56:31 hrm, I should try running some iterations on Vaults 01:56:55 <|amethyst> like 3.5 years ago 01:57:29 <|amethyst> %git 2d761a24 01:57:29 07|amethyst02 * 0.11-a0-2083-g2d761a2: Don't place band followers in vault walls. 10(3 years, 6 months ago, 1 file, 44+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d761a2458cf 01:57:42 <|amethyst> something weird about how the vaults are placed in mapstat? 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:32 -!- WTFace has quit [] 02:02:19 -!- tedric has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:07:15 gammafunk: I just ran 100 iters for V:5 and... output looks kinda weird since it only placed vaults_vaults 100 times. no layouts showed up or other subvaults. assuming it's just a quirkiness of vaults. just makes me wonder if it's doing the expected behavior 02:07:47 just vaults_vault and the uniqs that showed up 02:08:02 johnstein: yeah there's a weird thing where it doesn't show vaults that get placed like through lua hooks 02:08:18 I want to say that this vault uses some lua to pull in other vaults 02:08:22 are they still being generated for things like objstats? 02:08:36 johnstein: well if they weren't objstat would show very odd item numbers 02:08:43 so if the numbers look reasonable, then yeah it should be 02:08:59 well, perhaps items don't place throught he subvaults 02:09:01 yea. I scanned the monster output, but I've never run an objstats for vaults:5 to get a feel for how much 02:09:06 but you could look on V:5 in particular 02:09:11 seemed reasonablish 02:09:21 I suppose I could set the weight for 4 vaults to 99999 02:09:24 for other Vaults level it's mostly through level loot and monsters 02:09:30 then estimate the number of monsters/items 02:09:34 and run the stats 02:09:37 I don't follow that 02:10:10 if I pick 4 vaults and the total number of placeable monsters is 30 and items is 20, then if I see the same magnitude, it passes the sniff test 02:10:19 obviously I can't correlate exactly due to the random placement 02:10:31 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:10:35 but if it's omitting the vaults, that would be an obvious thing to notice 02:10:41 just a simple sanity check 02:10:46 well, no I mean we're talking V:5 right? 02:10:54 yes 02:10:58 then there's no need for any of that 02:11:04 just look at the output 02:11:10 if those quadrants weren't placing 02:11:16 there'd be a massive amount of missing loot/monsters 02:11:25 oh. there's no random placement anywhere outside the subvaults? 02:11:36 yes there is, but the difference is very large 02:11:47 -!- TurboShoah has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:51 ok 02:11:52 you don't need to do any special tests to see that difference 02:12:44 heh. 02:13:57 you may not be surprised how often I hear variants of that advice 02:18:11 but in my defense, I've found just enough unexpected oddball results from them that I probably tend to overvalue them a bit. 02:18:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20:55 ??gods 02:20:56 gods[1/3]: '?' '/' 'G' for a complete list (in game). Type "?? reasons" (in IRC) to get a list of reasons which might motivate you to worship that particular god. 02:21:07 ??gods[2 02:21:08 gods[2/3]: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Lugonu, Makhleb, Nemelex Xobeh, Okawaru, Pakellas, Qazlal, Ru, Sif Muna, Trog, Vehumet, Xom, Yredelemnul, Zin, the Shining One. 02:21:09 ??sif muna unreasons 02:21:10 I don't have a page labeled sif_muna_unreasons in my learndb. 02:21:14 about 100-184 monsters, avg 134. CHECKS OUT 02:21:19 ??sif muna reasons 02:21:20 sif muna reasons[1/3]: You are looking to use multiple branches of magic, but want a more reliable way of finding spells than floor-generated books or acquirement. Especially popular among the races with good aptitudes in more than one magic school, such as Deep Elves. 02:21:48 johnstein: well in this case I just value using more common sense when looking at output rather then thinking you need a special trick to devise what's happening 02:22:01 agreedc 02:22:03 kind of like how you should trust reading the code most times, over using a debugger 02:22:08 -!- cang has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:22:12 but then sometimes you definitely want a debugger! 02:22:28 <|amethyst> IMO never trust the code 02:22:35 it's just that using the debugger can make you lazy about... 02:22:35 I'm also used to doing a lot of black box testing at work 02:22:38 <|amethyst> the code is written by insane psychopathic people 02:22:40 where I don't have access to the code 02:22:44 he's making that ..yes it's a joke 02:22:45 <|amethyst> who want to make you like them 02:23:17 <|amethyst> the machine code is written by a mostly rational compiler 02:23:18 so coming up with ways to run black boxes and sift through data to find trends to infer what's going on is something I've done a lot for the past decade or so. so it's an easy go-to 02:23:20 <|amethyst> it's much clearer 02:23:23 |amethyst: but that's a well-accepted idea in computer science, right? Overuse of debugging tools leading to laziness wrt thinking about code? 02:23:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk: well, you should be able to reason about code, yes, 02:24:24 a lot of the C++ shorthand (I think it's shorthand) makes some of the crawl code hard for me to decipher at first glance 02:24:27 <|amethyst> gammafunk: but what matters is what happens when the code executes on a machine 02:24:32 one reason I've probably stuck to vaults so far 02:25:57 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 02:26:03 yeah, code execution matters. I guess the objstat output is more itself analogous to debugging output 02:26:22 doing a vault test is kind of like inserting debugging print statements 02:26:25 feels more like a batch mode for me 02:26:27 screw it, analogies are dumb 02:26:30 <|amethyst> heh 02:26:33 but sure, there's probably overlap 02:29:38 |amethyst, can you take a look at https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/199? it appears to do what i want but maybe not in the best way 02:31:09 <|amethyst> amalloy: so what does this show? 02:31:26 <|amethyst> just a radius around the centre? 02:31:38 |amethyst: previously if you put an exclusion in an unexplored area, XE doesn't visit that exclusion 02:31:49 this doesn't change how anything renders at all, but lets XE visit all exclusions 02:31:57 <|amethyst> oh, capital E cycles 02:32:06 yes 02:32:39 i use it often for clearing some-but-not-all exclusions on a floor, rather than X^e 02:33:06 but if i have an exclusion in unexplored territory there's no way to find out where i put it 02:34:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:35:01 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:35:13 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:07 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:39:18 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39:38 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:15 hm, gammafunk: what do you think about suppressing the AllLevels line from Objstats output if you only provided a single level? 02:41:18 <|amethyst> amalloy: seems reasonable enough, though I haven't actually compiled or run it 02:41:30 i have, and it seems to behave as intended 02:41:54 that's good enough for me to merge and await plaeyer complaints 02:42:09 gammafunk: useful on doing branch end vaults or analysis. I've been stripping it out, but wonder if it's something that could be added 02:42:11 <|amethyst> amalloy: not entirely happy with calling a ucs_t variable 'feature' since, you know, dungeon_feature_type exists 02:42:19 <|amethyst> amalloy: but it was that way when you got there so 02:42:26 yeah, i tried to make a minimal change 02:42:29 johnstein: yeah it would be a good idea 02:42:37 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-739-gf370914: Let XE show you exclusions in unexplored terrain 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 17+ 64-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f3709142ad12 02:42:37 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-741-gff759c7: Merge pull request #199 from amalloy/master 10(7 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ff759c76ba06 02:42:44 in fact for my script to upload the "official" objstat results 02:42:47 I'm playing with some online data plotters 02:42:52 I have to have the shell script remove those lines 02:43:00 for the abyss/pan/zig summaries 02:43:04 yea. I should do that in my batch script too 02:43:04 <|amethyst> amalloy: you know, you can just push that stuff to a branch 02:43:09 <|amethyst> amalloy: PRs are for plebes 02:43:10 i know 02:43:11 er well abyss/pan 02:43:20 actually no it's all three since it's per-job 02:43:30 i'd do a PR from that branch anyway. it's a nice convenient format to ask for reviews 02:43:45 yeah, the PR system can be nice for commentary 02:44:04 probably more for WiP stuff 02:44:24 <|amethyst> you can comment on commits too, but I guess that doesn't survive a rebase etc 02:44:35 although on that note, using a PR for WiP stuff might be kind of against the idea of PRs 02:44:55 <|amethyst> yeah, "don't-pull" requests 02:45:07 <|amethyst> the button is too tempting for that kind of thing I think 02:45:18 probably so 02:49:02 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53:57 using an online data plotter called RAW (http://app.raw.densitydesign.org/#%2F) and made this (but I'm sad on the crap quality and lack of axes lables): http://i.imgur.com/kcyZl3U.png 02:54:11 but it's kind of a neat view of the level 02:54:28 I just wish I could zoom in better or trim out data 02:58:08 actually I'd like to see that as percentages 02:58:21 which part? 02:58:25 the y axis 02:58:30 h 02:58:44 oh, you mean, overall %XP for that monster out of the total set 02:59:12 yeah 03:00:02 can do pretty easilly in a spreadsheet at least 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:36 hrm 03:00:38 @??vault_guard 03:00:38 vault guard (10p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 53-87 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1087 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 03:00:43 @??shadow_dragon 03:00:43 shadow dragon (06D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 17 | HP: 108-147 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 2013(drain), 1509(claw), 1509(claw) | evil, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(120), 02cold++, 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++ | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 2064 | Sp: b.draining (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 03:00:51 @??ettin 03:00:51 ettin (07C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 49-82 | AC/EV: 9/4 | Dam: 45, 45 | 10items, 10doors, two-weapon | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 1122 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 03:01:07 @??lich 03:01:08 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 66-98 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3062 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 03:01:19 @??ancient_lich 03:01:20 ancient lich (00L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 90-123 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8481 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 03:01:41 @??doom_hound 03:01:42 doom hound (03h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 20 | HP: 87-133 | AC/EV: 6/13 | Dam: 45, 30 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 08blind, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 3378 | Sp: doom howl [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 03:03:06 gammafunk: I'm looking at MonsXP and TotalXP. what is the difference? 03:03:12 @??warg 03:03:13 warg (00h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 5 | HP: 22-41 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 18 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08blind | XP: 166 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 03:03:18 former is the xp of the individual monster 03:03:37 averaged across iterations, but that's usually just the value you see from gretell 03:03:46 unless the monster has a randomized xp 03:03:50 yea. I see 163.21 03:03:53 for warg 03:04:06 TotalXP = 53.86 03:04:12 oh nm 03:04:17 divide by num 03:04:24 and in this case it's 0.33 03:04:27 yeah perhaps that variation in the monsxp you're seeing 03:04:51 <|amethyst> @?? warg hp:22 03:04:52 warg (00h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 5 | HP: 22 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 18 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08blind | XP: 135 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 03:04:54 <|amethyst> @?? warg hp:41 03:04:54 warg (00h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 5 | HP: 41 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 18 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08blind | XP: 190 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 03:04:59 oh 03:05:03 that's why 03:05:03 huh 03:05:05 -!- Grunt has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:05:12 welp, makes sense 03:05:32 neat 03:05:36 -!- orionstein has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:05:45 glad it wasn't just an objstat bug... 03:07:05 -!- Grunt has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:17 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:11:16 gammafunk: http://i.imgur.com/6FPfepo.png 03:11:26 nice 03:11:34 still crappy quality. you can read more. not sure if it tells the right story, but it's purty 03:11:37 wow, ancient lich are that high a percent? 03:11:45 er 03:11:46 wait 03:11:59 no that's not the way I want to see it really 03:12:08 I mean that might be useful for other purposes 03:12:09 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:12:27 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12:35 yea. that wasn't what you asked for. I forgot to mention that replacing the XP in the first plot with pctXP resulted in the same plot 03:12:46 just different numbers on the scale. let me put that up 03:13:47 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:14:02 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-741-gff759c7 (34) 03:14:36 gammafunk: http://i.imgur.com/pqP5P5H.png 03:14:44 oh. it's after midnight. hi Rotatell 03:23:14 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 03:24:13 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:26:37 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:27:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:27:56 The build passed. (master - ff759c7 #4164 : Alan Malloy): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/95975108 03:27:56 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:30:58 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 03:31:28 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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You feel agile all of a sudden. 04:24:05 thanks? 04:26:40 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:29:05 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:50:25 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:55:26 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:12 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:02:09 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:02:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:01 -!- theperson88 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:44 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 05:05:09 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:09:05 -!- rchandra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:20:50 that's some hittin wrath there 05:24:04 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:27:20 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:36:12 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:40:00 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:40:31 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:46:54 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:55:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05:05 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:19:14 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:34:05 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:50:10 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:52:06 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 06:53:42 -!- DALuke has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05:44 Wensley_: well what else would you expect of xom followers 07:06:44 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:13:39 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:15:56 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:27:44 -!- Dingle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:36:45 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:50:02 if you sac evokes to ru you can't use zigfigs? 07:56:02 -!- mango_lives has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03:26 I think so, currently 08:03:36 it's subject to change though, if it hasn't been changed already 08:04:43 fr sacrifice zigs 08:09:05 Cannot use Zigfig if sacrificed Evocations 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10157 by Ololoev 08:15:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:23:51 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:24:25 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:10 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:30:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:38:10 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-74-g15d7dda: Revert some bad cherry picking 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15d7dda42be5 08:38:10 03Grunt02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-75-g23ba16f: Fix some NSUBSTs in dis_grunt_layers. 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/23ba16fd1229 08:38:10 03Grunt02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-76-ga923c47: Don't overwite vaults with monster placements from layouts (#8908). 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a923c47165ae 08:38:10 03johnstein02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-77-g9042a03: fix a novelty vault to work better with squarelos 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 28+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9042a03b35d7 08:38:10 03|amethyst02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-78-g030244f: Avoid another spectral weapon crash. 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/030244f4f722 08:38:10 03ebering02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-79-g3b0a4a4: confused_by_you counts ally confusion as well 10(7 days ago, 2 files, 12+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b0a4a41b157 08:38:10 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-80-g8101ce7: Staticize a function 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8101ce773607 08:38:10 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-81-g8365301: Sync the manual from the wiki 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83653012ccc1 08:38:10 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-82-g942a3d2: Update the changelogs for 0.17.1 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/942a3d2973de 08:39:20 %git stone_soup-0.17 08:39:20 07gammafunk02 * 0.17.1: Update the changelogs for 0.17.1 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/942a3d2973de 08:39:48 gammafunk: is that first one really only supposed to be 4- lines? 08:40:16 yeah since the additions were only necessary due to the bugfix commits that reverted 08:40:26 ah, I see 08:40:31 that commit is relative to the current branch, which had those bad commits pushed 08:41:02 !tell geekosaur 0.17.1 has been tagged, so if you'd like to do the OS X builds for that, please feel free and let me know when they're ready. 08:41:03 gammafunk: OK, I'll let geekosaur know. 08:42:30 Yeah that diff is just confusing, since I squashed a sequence of reverts 08:43:10 looking at the reverted commits it makes sense 08:45:30 -!- mekhami has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 08:47:29 viewmap.cc:129:6: warning: no previous declaration for ‘bool _is_player_defined_feature(ucs_t)’ [-Wmissing-declarations] 08:47:29 geekosaur: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:47:51 (hi.) 08:53:09 uh oh 08:53:16 er 08:53:27 that's something from trunk, it almost sounds like 08:53:32 that commit from amalloy 08:53:40 which I did not merge 08:53:56 geekosaur: is that from trunk, or 0.17.1? 08:54:04 trunk 08:54:09 ah ok, phew 08:54:21 yeah I should fix that 08:54:22 * geekosaur pulled and built before looking at irc >.> 08:54:28 he needs to staticize that function 08:54:38 second time that's happened in the last day! 08:55:07 wow this linking takes a looong time 08:57:17 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-742-g58cbb28: Incredibly, staticize another function 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58cbb28a84a8 08:57:21 * dpeg sends gammafunk the missing link. 08:58:17 Hopefully that link has the triforce 08:59:05 come to think, that exclusion thing would have been good to cherry-pick, but oh well 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:56 oh, we need to update the use of the logo as well 09:06:10 not sure how it looks on a white background 09:06:20 I mean on the CDO pages 09:07:06 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:57:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk: ontoclasm made an flat version that might work better there 09:59:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:06 Yeah I recall that one 10:01:36 I can try it with both at some point 10:02:02 0.17.1 binaries and source packages are uploaded, with OS X hopefully on the way, and wordpress post made 10:03:59 Pact with Satan signed in blood, Lunarians awoken from their slumber in the core of the second moon, Reimann hypothesis proved, etc. 10:09:50 may not get to those until tomorrow; multiple VMs in use tracking down a customer issue... 10:11:02 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:11:16 geekosaur: thanks for doing them 10:12:25 -!- fiddlerwoaroof has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17:05 -!- fiddlerwoaroof has quit [Changing host] 10:18:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:02 The build passed. 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Use !messages to read them. 11:48:05 !messages 11:48:06 (1/5) ontoclasm said (1d 10h 40m 52s ago): If your tabstorm commit is g2323827, those tiles are actually mine; tabstorm suggested the edit. 11:48:12 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:48:14 !messages 11:48:15 (1/4) chequers said (1d 8h 56m 42s ago): < donblas> chequers: are you checkers from irradiate.png (e771f3e3b02f8546e0a5e4109b49fa1a894ebfd1) <-- no 11:48:20 !messages 11:48:21 (1/3) chequers said (1d 8h 55m 11s ago): I think I just pointed out to PF the image wasn't in the repo, so he'd know 11:48:23 !messages 11:48:23 (1/2) wheals said (2m 22s ago): I agree to license any tile contributions under CC0 (i'm shmuale) 11:48:27 !messages 11:48:28 (1/1) wheals said (43s ago): you have pleasingfungus in ARTISTS.md twice now (he's Nicholas Feinberg) and Adam Borowski twice (he's castamir) 11:49:37 donblas, I do the builds but the machine I use is also used for Work Stuff(tm) 11:49:54 so the builds will happen tonight or tomorrow 11:50:04 ah, alright 11:50:04 donblas: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:50:18 i have a work and home machine, so i can kick one out if needed 11:50:51 I have quite a few machines, only one currently deployed is a Mac and it's mostly dedicated to work stuff at this point 11:53:29 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:44 !messages 11:54:45 (1/1) wheals said (6m 6s ago): also, fa12db5b089d36c568826285f23d6582d0c0690f was me forgetting to actually use git mv on some pre-existing files; MarvinPA hasn't contributed any tiles (and is unlikely to in the future) 11:57:01 all of those updates are now live in crawl/tile 11:57:43 thanks guys 11:57:45 -!- donblas has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:32 haha, Grunt's listing in crawl/tiles lists all of his alt account 12:00:34 s 12:01:03 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:01:03 hopefully he'll make a tile as either 'hypergrunt' or 'deathgrunt' at some point 12:03:41 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17.1-0-g942a3d2 12:05:02 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:05:02 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:08:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-742-g58cbb28 (34) 12:15:22 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16:51 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16:53 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:19:09 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:29:00 -!- Lucasterio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:31:49 Heedrag (L8 DECj) (D:4) 12:35:06 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:35:55 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:41:01 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:41:13 <|amethyst> !crashlog 12:41:14 13420. Heedrag, XL8 DECj, T:5064 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Heedrag/crash-Heedrag-20151210-173147.txt 12:41:38 <|amethyst> hmm 12:41:42 <|amethyst> that's in 0.17 12:43:38 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:44:43 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46:43 <|amethyst> 0.17.1 specifically 12:47:12 <|amethyst> though I don't really see anything relevant---I don't think the dazzling ray testbeam.ignore_monster() change would affect that 12:52:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:31 sigh 12:52:47 trying to avoid crawl during finals week but i just can't get a break 12:53:22 |amethyst: ac72e4667575 shouldn't be in 0.17 12:53:41 <|amethyst> oh 12:53:43 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:35 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-1-g73c8601: Revert another double-zap cherry-pick. 10(47 seconds ago, 2 files, 94+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/73c86016d2ef 12:58:23 ummm 12:58:33 does this warrant an 0.17.1a or ? 12:58:36 ^ gammafunk 12:59:12 apparently, i break everything if i do anything or if i do nothing 12:59:15 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:56 try doing something 13:04:34 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:10:16 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:19:24 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:23:46 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:26:49 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:45:43 -!- vev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:31 i wonder if i could figure out what percentage of crawl's tiles i've personally touched 13:51:00 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:54:24 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:59:23 -!- Cerpin has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:59:37 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:06 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.18-a0-743-gfebb7d8: Teleporter tiles 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/febb7d899a93 14:02:06 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.18-a0-744-gaffb37a: Move an unused tile to UNUSED 10(18 seconds ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/affb37ace1ff 14:03:55 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:07:03 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:22 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:26 The build failed. 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 18:41:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:43:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:43:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:47:19 -!- glosham has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:49:23 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_osx-0.17.1.zip https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_tiles_osx-0.17.1.zip tests needed. OSX folk? 18:49:38 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:25 -!- tabstorm has quit [Client Quit] 18:55:32 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:51 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:13 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:06:38 how do i delete a (local) saved game that i can't load? 19:07:03 amalloy: it's in saves/ 19:07:14 find the matching file name (.cs) and delete it 19:08:01 oh, source/saves. somehow i couldn't find that 19:08:42 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 19:09:00 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:16 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:12:07 geekosaur: works here, on 10.10.5 19:12:15 tiles version 19:12:38 oh interesting. it's using a system-wide saves/ dir rather than the one in my source checkout 19:12:48 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:12:53 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:12:54 or...no, i guess i just don't understand mac FS layout 19:13:37 anyway i'm dumb but got it figured out. thanks Grunt 19:19:32 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:19:35 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:36 The build was fixed. (master - 7011300 #4170 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/96159684 19:19:36 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:21:11 mac versipon goes to ~/Library/Application Support 19:23:57 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:25:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:28:55 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:37:34 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:40:05 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:42:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 19:46:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:46:26 -!- notid1 has quit [Client Quit] 19:49:28 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:43 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:46 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:43 -!- eb has quit [] 20:01:40 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:03 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 20:06:22 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:07:57 !seen kolbur 20:07:57 I last saw Kolbur at Thu Dec 10 20:33:43 2015 UTC (4h 34m 13s ago) parting ##crawl-dev, saying 'chanpart'. 20:08:01 hm 20:08:35 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:41 geekosaur: I'm getting 'unidentified developer' for the tiles build, at least 20:09:51 but I remember that i had more trouble than other people last time this came up 20:09:56 something about cached certificates 20:10:40 oh, I think I used the wrong cert again :/ 20:10:43 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:11:04 * geekosaur just looked at most recent codesign in his shell history and, er, whoops 20:11:27 send me a console build after resigning and I'll try that 20:12:23 -!- xczxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:12:59 hm, no, I used the right cert. 20:13:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 20:14:32 * geekosaur launches pristine vm he used for the work project from hell... 20:14:42 it is entirely possible that my mac hates you. 20:17:05 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:17:20 -!- IceBlind has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:21:07 possible. fwiw both console and tiles are accepted by my pristine 10.10 20:21:39 so I guess I need other reports. saw a success report for console go by earlier 20:22:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-747-g6d2a1ad: Fix "Regen under Pakellas (Not My Leg) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6d2a1ad2da89 20:24:10 geekosaur: I am willing to give you 80% confidence that it's my computer being cantankerous, again. 20:30:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:39:20 !tell Grunt current comborobin player is arguing that gell's "guts all zigs", "bad for actual use though". take this as you will 20:39:21 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 20:39:49 !tell grunt this might be based on an old version of gell's (pre-f8b1a133a1e306)? not sure 20:39:49 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 20:39:57 -!- ReiN has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:40:27 which server is this comborobin on? 20:40:29 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-748-gcbf4e0d: Change a Chei message to use a synonym. 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cbf4e0d70678 20:40:33 !tell grunt now he's saying it's a 'good pack killer spell' so basically just ignore all my messages. how do I unsend messages. help 20:40:33 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 20:40:54 that feels almost ungrammatical 20:41:02 good intention tho 20:41:54 PleasingFungus: i considered increases/decreases 20:42:12 but raise/reduce were a dreadful pairing, since they look similar and aren't antonyms 20:42:20 lowers the legs of the table your attributes are sitting on 20:42:25 yeah I saw the commit comment 20:42:33 v0v 20:42:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 20:44:42 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:53 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:48 -!- baco has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:50:55 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:51:48 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:55:05 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:56:59 hrm, I guess I could likewise just build 0.17.1-1 and put those up as the binaries 20:58:07 hm whoops. i figured out what's wrong with my XE patch: it causes XE to not skip over features that are in an exclusion radius. i wonder if anyone cares. personally i like the change but i didn't make it on purpose 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:12 hrm? 21:00:17 * geekosaur sees no such tag 21:00:44 or am I to manually apply patches without going through git so it won't tag this as a dirty build? 21:05:24 so, pull through 942a3d2? 21:05:26 geekosaur: no, there is no tag as of yet 21:05:35 yeah it would be a good idea to do so 21:06:02 I'm not sure how easilly crashes are triggered, but there are definitely crashes if you don't have that one 21:06:05 %git stone_soup-0.17 21:06:05 07|amethyst02 * 0.17.1-1-g73c8601: Revert another double-zap cherry-pick. 10(8 hours ago, 2 files, 94+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/73c86016d2ef 21:06:10 oh 21:06:18 what's 942a3d2 21:06:37 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:13 [10 13:39] gammafunk [stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-82-g942a3d2: Update the changelogs for 0.17.1 (2 hours ago, 2 files, 22+ 0-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/942a3d2973de 21:07:14 geekosaur: the issue is that 73c8601 is after the 0.17.1 tag 21:07:23 right 21:07:38 which means it marks the build as a git build instead of a release 21:07:59 I might see about tagging locally and see if it checks for it being upstream... 21:08:56 or I might let it wait until tomorrow as I got about 3 hours of sleep last night, sigh 21:09:04 yeah, no rush :) 21:09:14 I have to update the linux/windows binaries anyhow 21:09:22 at some point, at least 21:09:30 |amethyst: do we need to make a special 0.17.1-1 tag for that cherry-pick? 21:09:37 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:10:07 and then build/package that 21:10:38 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:51 anyway, just that crash or also the other one (I think I saw a spectral weapon crash fix?) 21:12:18 [10 13:38] |amethyst {gammafunk} [stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-78-g030244f: Avoid another spectral weapon crash. (22 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/030244f4f722 21:14:08 which is why I jumped ahead to the latest changelog update in that series of patches 21:14:22 figured if we're going to do a -1 might as well catch everything... 21:14:31 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:37 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:19:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 21:28:19 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:29:54 geekosaur: yeah the crash I'm talking about is fixed by 73c8601; the spectral weapon thing is before the 0.17.1 tag 21:31:09 oh 21:32:15 looked after since it's after the other fix? (cherrypick revert is -74, this is -78, changelog is -82?) 21:32:24 on the branch 21:35:19 oh wait, I see 21:35:25 derp., told you I was tired 21:36:04 oh well. I can pick that one patch then and locally tag, I think. but probably not tonight, I'd probably delete it or something :/ 21:43:58 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52:14 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-749-gd809f95: Merge two identical spellsets 10(28 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d809f9546a3c 21:54:07 FACE (L11 MfCj) (Lair:3) 21:57:16 !annihilate PleasingFungus 21:57:16 Grunt: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:57:30 don't read those!! 21:57:32 I'm leaving 21:57:35 !blame PleasingFungus 21:57:35 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 21:57:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:05 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:16:48 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:52 -!- mineral has quit [Changing host] 22:16:52 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:12 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:20:46 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29:21 -!- st_ has quit [] 22:30:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:19 |amethyst: wow, i searched for it 22:31:35 how did i not notice that 22:33:11 mottled draconian annihilator (12q) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 70-89 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 04napalm | XP: 1492 | Sp: b.lightning (3d21), crystal spear (3d35), blink, iron shot (3d29), poison arrow (3d23) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 22:33:11 %??draconian annihilator 22:33:14 deep elf annihilator (12e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 57-79 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1264 | Sp: b.lightning (3d20), crystal spear (3d34), blink, iron shot (3d28), poison arrow (3d22) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 22:33:14 %??deep elf annihilator 22:35:31 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:32 The build has errored. (master - d809f95 #4173 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/96189374 22:35:32 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:35:47 ??plan 22:35:47 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 22:37:09 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:22 a man, a plan, torpor snails: dcss 22:40:21 !torpor PleasingFungus 22:40:42 FR a !torpor command that doesn't do anything until 15 seconds later 22:40:58 I like it 22:41:17 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:25 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:23 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:58:40 where did we hide the command to use ascii glyphs in webtiles? 22:59:24 isn't that an rcfile thing 22:59:37 could've sworn there's an ingame options 22:59:38 -s 22:59:40 it is 22:59:41 let me find it 22:59:48 (it's both, actually) 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:00 hm I can't find the in game option 23:03:00 but 23:03:07 it used to be f10 23:03:13 but i dunno if that's still the case 23:03:15 the initfile o ption is "tile_display_mode = glyph" 23:04:43 ontoclasm: that's what I thought 23:05:05 oh, webtiles onluy 23:06:41 um... did tiles glyphs get broken? 23:06:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 23:07:21 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:09:24 I've seen them working recently 23:09:37 as in, no more than a few days ago 23:09:45 why do you ask? 23:11:23 a friend is trying to play crawl and he's getting frustated that ascii glyphs aren't working 23:11:50 local? 23:12:50 webtiles 23:16:32 hm. works for me, trunk cszo 23:16:54 I did use "glyphs" (vs. "glyph") because that's what options_guide says 23:18:36 (sadly it is still painful... crappy local notwork ugh) 23:19:19 ah ha, thanks 23:20:50 (press key, wait 5-10s for game to notice...) 23:22:55 !send hell local notwork 23:22:56 Sending local notwork to hell. 23:23:21 we should change the game to kill me less. 23:23:23 it's unfair. I'm a dev. 23:23:49 -!- MrScumbag1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:25:45 Webtiles server restarted. 23:27:48 !lg PleasingFungus 23:27:49 402. PleasingFungus the Caller (L4 HESu), blasted by Dowan (puff of frost) on D:4 on 2015-12-11 04:18:05, with 95 points after 1205 turns and 0:10:50. 23:27:56 !lastgames PleasingFungus 23:27:59 Last 10 games for PleasingFungus: L4 HESu (Dowan), L2 HESu (a scorpion), L15 VSFE (a hydra), L1 VSFE (a kobold), L2 VSFE (a gnoll), L24 MiWr (winning), L4 FoEn (Sigmund), L8 VSBe (an ogre), L6 VSBe (Natasha), L6 VSBe (an orc warrior) 23:28:11 huh, forgot about the first two vsfe 23:28:24 !tv . 23:28:25 402. PleasingFungus, XL4 HESu, T:1205 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 23:28:35 ^ this one is BULLSHIT 23:28:46 this game is for babies. 23:29:01 !lastgames . 23:29:02 Last 10 games for geekosaur: L6 GrFi (Grinder), L16 GrFi (a large abomination), L9 GrFi (a hound), L14 GrFi (a dire elephant), L5 GrBe (an orc), L5 GrBe (an orc priest), L5 GrFi (a goliath beetle), L4 GrFi (an ogre), L2 GrFi (a gnoll), L5 GrEE (an orc priest) 23:29:21 of course only one of those is within the past 2 or so years >.> 23:29:29 -!- donblas has joined ##crawl-dev 23:29:31 PleasingFungus: you know the Help command just tells you what commands do? it doesn't actually help you in 23:29:39 I was trying to find the notes key 23:29:52 I use it so rarely that I forget every time 23:30:04 !log PleasingFungus 23:30:04 402. PleasingFungus, XL4 HESu, T:1205: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20151211-041805.txt 23:30:13 i was busy making fun of you and missed the note 23:30:35 huh, sigmund was on that level 23:34:08 hypractvChipmunk: are you hyperactiveChipmunk as well? you are on my list of artists who I'd like to speak to 23:35:32 Eronarn: you as well ^ 23:35:46 i'll dig up e-mails and mail if I don't catch people online 23:36:23 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:37:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:38:09 comborobin: Sparks fly from the great orb of eyes's handbugs!Sparks fly from the great orb of eyes's handbugs! 23:38:13 is this a known issue? 23:42:02 <|amethyst> gammafunk: looks like several miscast effects do that 23:44:05 FR name their hands "pupils" 23:44:34 handbugs. 23:44:36 good. 23:45:18 Grunt: trying to quick charge a full rod gives no message 23:45:48 no? that's weird 23:45:53 -!- cr0ne has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:45:53 -!- destroythecore_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:45:53 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46:59 easy enough to fix anyway (just need to add the canned msg to ability.cc) 23:47:06 but could have sworn I'd done that already 23:48:51 ??buckler 23:48:51 buckler[1/1]: A small {shield}. SH 5, EV -1. 23:49:07 wasn't the breakpoint for bucklers changed at some point 23:49:11 learn add weird that's weird 23:49:17 ah, to 4 23:49:54 in game description shows that these days 23:52:37 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6: Print a message on aborted Quick Charge (Medar). 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/37044d6ea105 23:53:29 still a bit weird it shows it as an option I guess 23:53:38 ya 23:53:48 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:54:04 it's because it shares the scroll of recharging code 23:54:13 it sees it as a valid recharge target b/c it's not +9 23:54:28 wonder if the description should mention it not raising max charges, it is pretty obvious though 23:55:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:55:39 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:31 -!- Enthusiasm has quit []