00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:51 <|amethyst> it clouded my judgment 00:01:32 <|amethyst> also my LOS 00:01:43 <|amethyst> then I encountered nicolae_dithmenos_the_darkroom 00:02:00 <|amethyst> except i didn't realise it at first because it was a bunch of opaque smoke, no altar in sight 00:02:08 <|amethyst> (two different games) 00:02:42 <|amethyst> a bunch of opaque smoke with the vault not even in sight, since the hypersmoke leaked out 00:03:12 <|amethyst> I think we should reintroduce that bug as part of next April's festivities 00:03:27 <|amethyst> 5x cloud spread rate and no decay on spread 00:03:29 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:04:54 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:06 <|amethyst> !lg * map~~lemuel_flamethrower 00:05:06 175. Tnt the Fighter (L14 DsCK of Xom), engulfed by a cloud of flame on Abyss:4 (lemuel_flamethrower_hall) on 2015-12-01 08:37:31, with 54327 points after 13612 turns and 1:07:15. 00:05:11 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:23 <|amethyst> aww, was hoping there were a bunch of kills all of a sudden 00:05:31 :( 00:05:36 FR: remove those maps 00:06:34 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:33 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:51 -!- baco has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:17:40 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:18:01 -!- Patashu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:19:48 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:44 -!- Dustbina has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:24:57 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:04 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-659-gb9673d2 (34) 00:29:38 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:31:23 -!- Amnesiac_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:37:40 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:40:10 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:40:40 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:47:51 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:49:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:30 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:56:06 -!- xczxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:56:44 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:59:18 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05:35 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:08:15 !seen gammafunk 01:08:15 I last saw gammafunk at Sat Dec 5 04:13:26 2015 UTC (1h 54m 48s ago) saying 'that's one step away from installing a Windows OS' on ##crawl-dev. 01:08:32 !send gammafunk " Lua error: /dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-git/RandomTiles.rc:561: attempt to index local 'entry' (a nil value)" 01:08:32 Sending " Lua error: /dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-git/RandomTiles.rc:561: attempt to index local 'entry' (a nil value)" to gammafunk. 01:09:37 PleasingFungus: this is cszo? 01:10:29 &rc PleasingFungus trunk cszo 01:10:31 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/PleasingFungus.rc 01:11:10 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-659-gb9673d2 (34) 01:11:57 ya 01:12:02 odd, your rc looks fine 01:12:05 and it's working for me 01:12:07 with the same stuff 01:12:35 let me try this locally 01:12:40 -!- Rotatell has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:13:13 yeah your rc works fine for me locally, hrm 01:13:17 let me try on cszo 01:13:23 bug report: this ettin is leaving a trail of nonsense 01:13:30 ? 01:14:25 -!- nove1156 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:14:27 ?? 01:14:34 ?? ? ? 01:14:34 I don't have a page labeled ?_? in my learndb. 01:14:37 hope I'm doing that right 01:14:55 !! ! ! 01:15:29 PleasingFungus: your rc works fine for me when I use it as my rc, both on cszo and locally 01:15:33 not sure what's happening 01:15:41 are you not transfering an old game, maybe? 01:16:17 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:19 The build passed. (master - 2d01a89 #4085 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/95005748 01:16:19 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:16:25 PleasingFungus passes. 01:16:38 but if you're not using randomtiles anyhow, I recommend just commenting out the lines; I'd like to know why you're getting that, but I can't recreate 01:16:48 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:17:03 * gammafunk recreates Grunt. 01:17:45 * Grunt shimmers and seems to become omnipresent! 01:18:32 incidentally P's banner is going to be "Gadgeteer" 01:18:50 I) enter Lair with evo title; II) win with evo title; III) tbd (I have a few ideas) 01:19:07 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-659-gb9673d2 (34) 01:19:18 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:24 hi Rotatell... 01:19:34 hrm, do we have many other banners for skill titles? 01:19:46 there is a direct analogue in Q's banners 01:19:48 other than that no 01:19:55 well there is Loremaster, which is the low-skill set 01:20:00 (i.e. Sif's banners) 01:20:24 there's Prophet 01:20:27 oh 01:20:28 that's Q 01:20:29 Prophet == Q's banners 01:20:43 man that seems weird theme for Q 01:20:48 banner-wise 01:20:52 but so it goes 01:21:00 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:21:02 well Q is invocations-heavy 01:21:02 so 01:21:28 yeah it's just that Q's theme is "the elements"; prophet sounds like it'd be a good god thing, if anything 01:21:36 I guess that last statement is v. debatable 01:21:50 but so it goes with having a banner-god relationship I guess 01:22:51 !lg * recent won xl<19 god!=ru 01:22:53 7. HilariousDeathArtist the Imperceptible (L18 SpBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-28 22:02:32, with 2335466 points after 31053 turns and 2:58:52. 01:23:09 !lg * recent won xl<19 god!=ru s=char,god 01:23:10 7 games for * (recent won xl<19 god!=ru): SpFi (Nemelex Xobeh), FeEn (Dithmenos), SpAs (Vehumet), SpBe (Trog), FeWr (Dithmenos), TrMo (Jiyva), SpEn (Dithmenos) 01:23:47 interesting range of god choices there 01:23:52 ya 01:24:00 3x Dithmenos, 01:24:33 good ol' Dsomethin' 01:25:00 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:26:19 gammafunk: this is a very old game 01:26:34 !lm PleasingFungus x=vlong 01:26:35 6268. [2015-12-05 06:21:37] [vlong=0.18-a0-641-g4caf58e] PleasingFungus the Impregnable (L19 MiWr of Qazlal) killed Mara on turn 31515. (Depths:2) 01:26:43 well, you did transfer 01:26:48 yes 01:26:57 so no idea why you're getting that really 01:28:05 .doomed 01:28:05 No games for * (ikiller=doom_hound). 01:29:20 .ironed 01:29:20 7. [dam=72;tdam=97] hmm the Eclecticist (L25 OpEn of Cheibriados), blasted by an iron giant (iron shot) on Depths:4 (minmay_central_circle) on 2015-12-03 13:05:50, with 504554 points after 113744 turns and 15:05:13. 01:29:25 .sparked 01:29:26 32. [dam=12;tdam=31] bleak the Imperceptible (L17 SpEn of Ashenzari), slain by a spark wasp on Spider:3 on 2015-12-04 23:06:30, with 152049 points after 41438 turns and 4:16:05. 01:29:56 I think I got only one or two in spider, my game 01:30:20 !lg * ikiller=spark_wasp s=br 01:30:20 32 games for * (ikiller=spark_wasp): 20x Depths, 11x Spider, Lair 01:31:00 %git HEAD^{/long range} 01:31:00 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-438-g7452b62: Spark wasps only blinkbolt at long range. 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7452b6220737 01:31:30 !lg * depths vlong>=0.18-a0-438-g7452b62 s=cikiller 01:31:31 28 games for * (depths vlong>=0.18-a0-438-g7452b62): 3x an ice dragon, 3x a frost giant, 2x a stone giant, 2x a very ugly thing, 2x a fire giant, 2x a vampire knight, 2x a sphinx, a titan, an earth elemental, a spriggan air mage, a glowing shapeshifter, an iron troll, a quicksilver dragon, a spriggan defender, a spriggan berserker, a caustic shrike, an iron giant, Sojobo, an ettin 01:31:47 hrm, so once you get them close, they'll never blink bolt? 01:32:00 unless you try to escape 01:32:40 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.18-a0-660-gd91f0cb: Flying skull tile (CanOfWorms) 10(3 seconds ago, 2 files, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d91f0cbe50d1 01:33:15 ! 01:33:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:49 !bug 10120 01:35:49 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10120 01:35:53 casualty of squarelos 01:36:19 if silence_radius was changed from 10 to 12 that vault would be OK again 01:36:35 otherwise, the vault should be reworked, right? which is the preferred solution? 01:38:04 http://i.imgur.com/14nqXM8.png = current squarelos. http://i.imgur.com/E07ydSo.png = old circle 01:39:12 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:42:02 well I doubt changing the silence radius due to one novelty vault is a good approach 01:42:15 the vault could be edited to remove some double-walls, probably 01:42:25 which would bring that ogre mage closer to the spectre 01:43:47 yea. that's basically what I was thinking. but wasn't sure if the new silence_radius =10 being somewhat arbitrary, or something that was carefully chosen to balance better with squarelos 01:46:41 -!- kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:06 Hi, Kramell keeps getting 403 forbidden when trying to read log files on the servers? 01:49:09 on every server? 01:49:56 all but lantell and cpo 01:50:00 kramin: http://dobrazupa.org/meta/git/logfile works fine for me 01:50:05 I know 01:50:09 works fine for me too 01:50:43 argh must be a kramell bug 01:50:46 oh, I don't know where Kramell is hosted 01:51:04 but yeah doesn't seem like it's an issue with those servers 01:52:41 -!- } has quit [] 01:54:08 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:54:18 could it be getting blocked because of spamming? 01:54:33 it was down 3 days and now is trying to catch up... 01:54:41 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-660-gd91f0cb 01:54:53 hm, I can't connect to s-z 01:55:00 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55:13 I just find it odd it's getting 403 01:55:35 yeah cszo just stopped workin' 01:56:05 unfortunate 01:56:11 all my loyal fans...! 01:56:17 PleasingFungus: you'll have to continue that game in 0.19 01:56:21 hahaha 01:56:29 !send PleasingFungus a fan of gales 01:56:31 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:56:31 Sending a fan of gales to PleasingFungus. 01:56:42 !messages 01:56:42 (1/1) Grunt said (2h 24m 3s ago): do ufetubi explode yet 01:56:55 Grunt: they should 01:56:57 demonic penguins.... prinnies....!? 01:56:59 dood 01:57:10 PleasingFungus: it's back now 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:32 cbro is fine: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/meta/ 02:02:33 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:34 The build passed. (master - 5045941 #4086 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/95005901 02:02:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:05:24 is it down again? 02:05:41 no, just hiccuping 02:06:03 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:28 nope, just getting it to reset it's offsets 02:07:07 I keep track of offsets for each file and use curl to fetch chunks 02:07:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:08:35 still getting forbidden 02:11:20 ok, it's working on most servers 02:11:39 just seems to be cbro still 02:13:48 oh 02:13:53 port 8080 now? 02:14:12 hmm when I do it manually I get 302 but kramell gets 403 02:15:13 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:18:35 oh oops, wrong dir 02:21:41 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:21:59 well it's working again 02:27:02 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:29:27 -!- Kramell has quit [Quit: reconnecting...] 02:31:16 !lg . won min=turns 02:31:16 38. PleasingFungus the Impregnable (L24 MiWr of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-12-05 07:29:22, with 2295621 points after 37492 turns and 4:11:06. 02:31:37 ??submodule 02:31:37 I don't have a page labeled submodule in my learndb. 02:31:48 johnstein: they're git's version of the devil. 02:31:57 I know :/ 02:32:00 I always forget the command 02:32:05 git submodule --init 02:32:08 didn't work 02:32:15 git submodule update --init 02:32:26 ah, no init 02:32:42 oh. unless I do update 02:32:44 then I need it 02:32:51 did it both ways. got same answer 02:32:55 just to be safe 02:33:38 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:33:57 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34:14 godammit. but git status still says they aren't updated 02:34:26 err. shows they are modified 02:34:40 ran it in the top level dir like it said to. what a bummer 02:38:22 you could cd into the contribs directory and run git status there, if you were curious 02:39:25 -!- 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0.18-a0-662-gcaceebc: Merge pull request #197 from dominiquelee/master 10(10 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/caceebcf3c95 02:52:39 ^ should also be added to credits, probably 02:54:21 ??dgamelaunch[3 02:54:21 dgl[3/3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 02:56:12 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:57:21 for this bug: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10120 I modified the vault in question: 02:57:27 http://dev.berotato.org:8081/watch/dbrotest 02:58:03 so now everything is covered under the newer smaller silent spectre radius 02:58:10 cept for the ancient lich 02:58:17 who is behind the wall 02:58:55 didn't know if that's ok. or if I should replace the ancient lich with the orc sorcerer in the cell with the diggable wall 02:59:08 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:37 New branch created: pull/198 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/198 03:02:37 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/198 * 0.18-a0-660-gfddd0f7: fix a novelty vault to work better with squarelos 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 28+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fddd0f7bd85e 03:04:28 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:41 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 03:07:19 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:07:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:07:59 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:21 that vault seems to me like it works with the alich being out of the silence aura 03:12:38 at least that's the only way i ever encountered the vault 03:12:51 and it seemed kind of cool that way to me 03:17:55 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/198 * 0.18-a0-660-g229a455: fix a novelty vault to work better with squarelos 10(43 minutes 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:30:56 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:41:40 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:44:00 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:47:50 -!- zarath9 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:36 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:09:03 -!- Idolo has quit [] 05:16:47 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:20:17 -!- shooth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:21:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:21:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:20 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:27:41 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:27:48 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 05:31:02 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31:27 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:38 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:57 auras pf deavas and others seem to leave their aura after they die 05:52:03 *of 05:52:25 is it intentional? 05:53:04 with others i mean daebas and angels and mennas 05:53:11 so its the angel aura 05:53:54 i only encounterd it at mennas but i ignored it and the guy im specating got it at a daeva 05:59:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:00:00 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:33:19 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:46:24 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06:18 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:08:20 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16:06 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:20:25 -!- Dustbina is now known as R18 07:21:32 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:21:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:06 -!- } has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:31 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:34:18 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:39:16 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:57:49 -!- mif has quit [Client Quit] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:26 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:00:33 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:10:55 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:26:51 -!- } has quit [] 08:31:25 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:33:49 We crashed! 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10141 by FALLWATER 08:35:39 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:54 -!- sf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:05:18 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:05:40 -!- necKro has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:06:05 -!- necKro23 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:32 -!- GreyKnight has quit [Quit: bbiab] 09:20:42 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:21:56 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:25:57 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26:06 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:19 -!- Lucasterio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:36:42 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 09:47:52 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:56:54 -!- ganon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:18 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:04:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:09:20 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 10:15:32 -!- } has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:17:14 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:42 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:24:02 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:45 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 10:42:34 ??is cszo down 10:42:36 1 minutes, 22 seconds since last activity (cszo) 10:43:51 !messages 10:43:52 (1/1) |amethyst said (23h 20m 2s ago): the save backup links still say crawl.lantea.net (and some other things like rebuild also say CLAN) 10:44:11 can anyone else access crawl.s-z.org ? 10:44:14 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:44:45 !seen |amethyst 10:44:45 I last saw |amethyst at Sat Dec 5 12:34:18 2015 UTC (3h 10m 28s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 260 seconds'. 10:45:57 !tell |amethyst I restarted webtiles. I didn't see any non-console games and the server wasn't responding on port 80 10:45:58 bh: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 10:46:16 bh: I can, there is only two players though 10:46:31 was going to say ssh up http down but it sounds like you already dealt 10:47:09 great, Nils says it was also unreachable for him, so I didn't boot folks 10:47:23 03Medar02 07* 0.18-a0-663-gd0428f7: More conversions from more() to default force_more_message. 10(26 minutes ago, 7 files, 14+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0428f79cb62 10:47:27 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:21 -!- djanatyn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 10:50:22 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:38 <|amethyst> hm 10:50:38 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:51:03 |amethyst: should be fixed now. 10:51:12 <|amethyst> !tell bh thanks, looks like it rebooted? 10:51:13 |amethyst: OK, I'll let bh know. 10:51:40 |amethyst: yeah, I ran ./restart-webtiles.sh 10:51:40 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:51:44 !messages 10:51:44 (1/1) |amethyst said (32s ago): thanks, looks like it rebooted? 10:52:55 <|amethyst> I just started the inotify daemon 10:55:49 |amethyst: I've removed the id game from crawl. want to fork it? ;) 10:56:39 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:01 <|amethyst> I don't mind moving id, Crawl should really be more of a game of ego and superego 10:57:10 <|amethyst> s/moving/re&/ 10:57:16 <|amethyst> as long as there's still identification 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:16 <}> |amethyst, hey thanks for adding the patches 11:00:26 <}> now I just need to figure out the sanctuary bug 11:00:41 <|amethyst> NP 11:00:59 <|amethyst> btw, we should put you in CREDITS.txt at some point 11:01:19 <|amethyst> But I refuse to add a line saying just "}" :P 11:01:29 <|amethyst> should I list you as bsdbeard, or do you have a name? 11:01:30 <}> bsdbeard then 11:01:35 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:01:52 <}> When I get my comp back I can get my github working, right now I can't authenticate into it 11:02:23 <|amethyst> }: you're github.com/bsdbeard ? 11:02:32 <}> Yes, but I haven't used it in ages 11:02:47 <}> Maybe I'll update my dotfiles 11:02:58 <|amethyst> }: given that that page has your name already... 11:03:09 <}> You can use it yeah 11:03:43 <}> Looks like I haven't used github in 2 years 11:03:50 -!- Ipsum has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:04:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-664-g829aa1c: Add bsdbeard (}) to CREDITS. 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/829aa1c62e6b 11:04:26 <|amethyst> doh, forgot to [skip ci] that 11:04:51 <|amethyst> cancelled by hand 11:06:43 <}> |amethyst, take a look at my turtle, /msg nickserv taxonomy } 11:07:08 } is a valid irc nick? huh 11:07:46 <}> bh, Indeed, they had to explicitly write it as valid in the IRC RFC 11:08:24 -!- hollowman has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:10:28 an old scandinavian charset mapping 11:11:34 <}> That RFC is quite interesting to read, it certainly wins in terms of spelling mistakes and errors 11:12:07 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:04 <}> |amethyst, so a build triggered because CREDIT were updated? 11:17:05 -!- Rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:06 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:16 <|amethyst> I had not even been aware of taxonomy 11:21:10 <|amethyst> }: yeah, travis-ci triggers a build for every batch of commits, unless all the commit messages in the batch contain [skip ci] (or one of a couple of alternatives) 11:21:56 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22:12 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:58 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:24:47 Ctrl-x repeats description lines 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10142 by Yermak 11:24:56 -!- hong has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:09 hi 11:26:25 hi 11:26:38 can i asked here? 11:26:45 about bug 11:27:14 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:27:53 of course 11:28:18 when i played in beog's child. i breeded some orc mans. 11:28:18 -!- KuroiOokami has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:53 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 11:29:13 i meet kirke. kirke polymoph to my warlord 11:29:57 -!- KuroiOokami is now known as MIC132 11:30:19 the warload equiped +8 vampric mace artifact and wielding sheild. and plate armor 11:31:15 when this polymoph was stop, the wordlord's hand was blank 11:31:23 it was not bug? 11:31:42 equipment was not recovered 11:32:19 which version/server are you playing on? 11:32:30 <}> !lg hong beogh 11:32:31 7. hong the Bludgeoner (L19 HOTm of Beogh), blasted by a spriggan air mage (the air) (summoned by a boggart) on Depths:3 on 2015-08-15 17:36:49, with 225048 points after 39088 turns and 4:12:09. 11:33:03 version is trunk and cwz server 11:33:35 !bug 10000 11:33:35 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10000 11:33:40 looks like it's this bug 11:33:45 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 11:33:49 specific version describe was reqired? 11:34:15 no 11:34:15 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:34:31 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:34:58 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:13 <|amethyst> apparently whoever posted that god some bad advice in ##crawl 11:35:21 <|amethyst> "Transformations meld items only temporary for players and as some folks said at #crawl for monsters it's same." 11:36:07 <}> This is quite terrifying, I just killed kirke as a Ho^Beogh 11:36:10 <}> !lm 11:36:11 1236. [2015-12-05 15:08:25] bsdbeard the Severer (L16 HOWn of Beogh) left the Swamp on turn 37739. (Swamp:1) 11:36:16 <}> uhm 11:36:25 <}> !lm . -2 11:36:26 1235/1236. [2015-12-05 15:07:59] bsdbeard the Severer (L16 HOWn of Beogh) killed Kirke on turn 37723. (Swamp:1) 11:36:39 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:43 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:43:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:44:18 |amethyst: did you fix this at some point? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5446 11:45:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-665-gf7245a8: Arguably refactor bone armour degrading 10(39 seconds ago, 3 files, 14+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f7245a89790f 11:46:24 !tell PleasingFungus not "Refactor (?)"? 11:46:25 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 11:46:54 <|amethyst> Medar: not sure if any of my changes there affected ^X, but 10142 seems to imply that something affected that in a bad way :) 11:47:12 nah, that has been around for ages 11:47:15 !bug 4451 11:47:15 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4451 11:47:45 <|amethyst> oh, I guess items vs monsters are wrapped differently? 11:48:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:00 <|amethyst> or at least used to be 11:48:08 I'm just trying to mark some duplicates 11:48:13 so here's sort of a strange question 11:48:13 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:48:29 Grunt: ...I shoulda used an emoji!!! 11:48:33 rip... 11:48:41 time to rewrite history 11:50:21 in player-reacts.cc(), _decrement_a_duration takes a 'midloss' value, which, if nonzero, displays a "such-and-such is running out" message when the duration hits half of its remaining duration minus the 'midloss'. the idea being to make it at least somewhat ambiguous how much time is left. 11:50:42 there are durations that pass coinflip() into midloss. 11:51:41 doesn't that kind of remove the point? 11:52:27 also, doesn't that risk not printing any warning at all? 11:53:27 I guess the latter is OK 11:54:12 i have one question more. it was not a bug. 11:54:27 can i asked now? 11:54:40 you can always ask 11:54:47 when older version of soup, 11:54:54 Ctrl + t command was follower's or machinary's command about item and equips i know it was deleted. 11:55:05 for balance about beogh player's between others 11:55:27 but why this function was deleted about machinary? 11:55:35 after this patch, machinary card was boring. 11:55:46 especially unupgradable machinary like kobold. 11:55:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm? midloss doesn't look like it controls whether you get the message, or when 11:56:01 when i play this game whatever job and race. 11:56:05 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it just means you lose a certain amount of duration when you hit the midpoint 11:56:11 this machinary card was salt and light! 11:56:15 but now it was little boring... 11:56:40 oh, mercenary 11:56:44 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and losing one turn should only be a problem if the get_expiration_threshold is less than BASELINE_DELAY 11:56:56 ah, yes mercenary 11:57:02 i mistake 11:57:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: which looks like just petrifying and potentially antimagic? 11:57:52 fr Machinery card, random Pakellas behaviour 11:58:55 hong: the mercenary card got made less interesting as a sad side effect of the ally equipment changes. I agree that it should be made more interesting again. However, it's such a small and rare part of the game. It's hard to justify too much complexity for it. 11:58:56 what is fr? 11:58:57 <|amethyst> hm, I'm trying to fix 10000 11:59:00 hong: joke 11:59:08 <|amethyst> I strip the props when the monster polymorphis, that works 11:59:12 <|amethyst> s/phis/ 11:59:14 <|amethyst> phs/ 11:59:27 <|amethyst> but then when the monster reverts it gets that property back?? 11:59:36 dang 11:59:41 |amethyst: you're right about the effect of midloss (I got confused midway through reading about the code), but my point stands 11:59:42 hong, kinda poking a joke at Grunt's new god 11:59:49 ??fr 11:59:49 fr[1/6]: Feature requests on ##crawl are usually pithy one-liners that are not meant to be taken seriously. 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:02 how does it obfuscate how much duration is remaining if you just always subtract 1? 12:00:11 hm 12:00:13 wait 12:00:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it might expire one turn before you would expect 12:00:22 ah, it was joke? haha 12:00:28 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that's multiplied by BASELINE_DELAY 12:00:43 |amethyst: you're still misunderstanding me but it doesn't matter 12:00:45 I figured it out 12:00:48 all is well. 12:00:57 learn add PleasingFungus I got confused midway through reading about the code 12:01:05 learn add crawlcode 12:01:17 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh, you were thinking zero midloss meant no message? 12:01:28 probably doesn't make much sense unless you had been in here when we were trying to igure out how to play Pakellas a a god of machines in a game where machines are anachronistic 12:01:45 |amethyst: yeah - got thrown off by the assertion at the start, I think 12:02:13 ally equipment changes was so complex? 12:02:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe change that to ASSERT(!(midloss && midmsg == nullptr)); ? 12:03:02 -!- shmup has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:03:05 hong: adding ally equipment changes back just for mercenaries would be a lot of complexity, yeah 12:03:13 <|amethyst> ohhh 12:03:40 <|amethyst> porkalate stores the whole monster in ORIG_MONSTER_KEY 12:03:53 a monster in a box...! 12:03:55 !bug 10000 12:03:56 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10000 12:04:03 !bug 10k 12:04:03 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10k 12:04:25 !bug Medar 12:04:26 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=Medar 12:04:32 ok, I understand it. thanks 12:05:42 <}> neat, my username was replaced with my name in some of the commits! 12:06:06 <}> also apparently a nethack developer worked on crawl? 12:06:27 sure, grunt! 12:06:29 <_< 12:06:46 <|amethyst> our servers use software written by a member of the nethack devteam 12:06:56 <}> %git 8005831c3a4ef 12:06:56 07ais52302 {sorear} * 0.6.0-a1-2036-g8005831: Don't crashdump on SIGTTIN and SIGTTOU 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8005831c3a4e 12:06:58 <|amethyst> though he wasn't when we started using it 12:07:00 <|amethyst> (paxed) 12:07:04 <}> ais523 -> alex smith 12:07:04 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07:31 <|amethyst> also, zipcode is a top-tier nethack player 12:07:35 it's not like the various rouelike devs are deadly enemies... 12:07:44 *roguelike 12:07:47 <}> Just found it interesting 12:08:10 I'm not a NetHack developer <.< 12:08:22 also this was long before ais523 was recruited 12:08:29 * Medar switches to Nethack 12:08:30 (to NH's team) 12:08:34 <}> Oh 12:08:47 <|amethyst> oh, ais523 is on the dev team? 12:10:00 <|amethyst> I thought not 12:10:08 <|amethyst> (he is on the Nethack 4 dev team of course) 12:10:35 <|amethyst> but I haven't followed this stuff since April or so when paxed and a couple of others were added 12:18:02 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:18:45 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-666-gdb01d97: Forget Beogh item gifts when the recipient polymorphs (hong) 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db01d975f3ae 12:18:57 <|amethyst> Doesn't solve #10000 because that one is about mercenaries 12:19:48 <|amethyst> also won't help with orcs that have already been porkalated 12:21:51 you can only gift one item to a given orc, and the orc will lose armour, weapon, and maybe a shield or ammo 12:21:56 when porked 12:21:58 <|amethyst> yeah 12:22:01 so that's still unfortunate 12:22:44 fr porkalator is permanent 12:22:53 <|amethyst> FR: monsters can pick up equipment 12:23:04 <|amethyst> even if you have seen said equipment 12:23:27 <|amethyst> we keep track of three different properties 12:23:38 <|amethyst> so it seems like it would be easy enough to allow gifting one of each to each follower 12:23:54 <|amethyst> maybe it used to work that way? 12:24:01 <|amethyst> trying to figure out why there are three properties in the first place 12:24:39 maybe it's used to not replace said item? 12:24:45 when beogh upgrades them or something 12:24:59 could just be a relic too, of course 12:25:02 <|amethyst> ah, yeah 12:25:05 <|amethyst> %git 407dc70 12:25:05 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1587-g407dc70: Don't let Beogh bless items gifted by the player 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 1 file, 16+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/407dc70bcfd1 12:25:45 wheals is the one who implemented it with three properties, iirc 12:25:51 I wasn't sure why 12:26:01 tigertrap (L23 MfSu) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 226 failed. (Snake:4) 12:26:07 !crashlog 12:26:07 12627. tigertrap, XL23 MfSu, T:67476 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tigertrap/crash-tigertrap-20151205-172601.txt 12:26:21 <|amethyst> that's the ray crash 12:26:37 <|amethyst> some kind of cone 12:26:47 <|amethyst> hmm 12:26:59 <|amethyst> oh, no 12:27:01 <|amethyst> that's different 12:27:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:12 The build passed. (master - f7245a8 #4102 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/95075565 12:27:12 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:27:47 <|amethyst> interesting map in that crashlog 12:27:53 <|amethyst> &rc tigertrap 12:27:54 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/tigertrap.rc 12:28:13 <|amethyst> ah 12:28:15 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-665-gf7245a8 (34) 12:28:42 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid -2 12:28:43 367/368. comborobin, XL25 DEEn, T:64741 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/comborobin/crash-comborobin-20151203-062150.txt 12:31:02 if beogh's motive was jejus. why don't added power like revive follower or recall another floor with large amount of piety? when beogh player encounted big follower's dead, 12:31:24 him just want to press ctrl + q; yes; 12:32:28 <|amethyst> I think there are still (vague) plans for resurrection of followers 12:33:18 <|amethyst> that suggestion always comes up when we talk about removing 'p' sacrifices 12:34:22 dpeg's been suggesting it for a while 12:34:40 why remove 'p' commands? i have thinked about this command was crawl and soup's identity. 12:35:41 there aren't very many left. 12:35:50 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:36:20 I don't really feen an urge to ^qyes if a big orc dies 12:36:38 -!- Cacophony has quit [Changing host] 12:36:41 unless you give a warlord +12 GDA or something he WILL eventually die horribly, probably to something dumb like a pcloud 12:38:15 I lost three of my warlords to a giant orange brain and deep water, once 12:38:20 that was a bad few turns. 12:38:38 PleasingFungus: yes, and I still do. It's got to be better than praying over every dead orc, of course. 12:39:12 kvaak: many players are *very* emotionally attached to their orcs :) 12:39:21 I once read a heart-warming story on SA on this. 12:39:37 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:39:44 i did'nt press ^qyes but i feel this. beogh play was splited big follower was alive or not. this game's god was big followers 12:40:23 -!- Porost is now known as bimbernamyszach 12:40:34 <|amethyst> re #10000, I wouldn't be opposed to making polymorph keep or meld equipment 12:40:50 <|amethyst> but I'm sure the technical details would be a pain 12:41:43 yeah, would be nice, but might not be worth it 12:41:58 <|amethyst> it weakens /poly 12:42:07 <|amethyst> somewhat 12:42:10 I need to think about resurrection: it should be neither mechanical nor guaranteed, and ideally invoke some choice/tradeoff. 12:42:22 Needs time and thought. And perhaps a good prayer at the local church :) 12:42:23 melding wouldn't weaken it meaningfully 12:42:26 <|amethyst> dpeg: my first thought was high piety cost 12:42:39 |amethyst: yes, that's a good starter 12:42:40 but it would be weird if equipment was melded when going to a form that can wield 12:42:42 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: well, I meant "keep equipment if it's wearable, meld if not" 12:42:50 yeah 12:42:57 <|amethyst> which would be a nerf sometimes 12:43:00 I assume no-one minds if I remove monster speech command __MORE (not used atm)? 12:43:04 <|amethyst> maybe it's a buff against gastronok 12:43:17 <|amethyst> since you might get a ponderous titan 12:44:10 Medar: what's it supposed to do? 12:44:17 forces --more-- 12:44:23 which seems bad 12:44:33 heh 12:46:20 <}> Would be nice if beogh didnt gift you orc while you're standing in poison clouds in snake 12:46:25 <}> or freezing clouds in icecave 12:46:53 <}> Or clouds.. in genera 12:46:56 <}> general* 12:47:17 <|amethyst> well, damaging clouds 12:47:22 dpeg: *shrug* to each their own, I mostly find beogh atheist with benefits 12:47:28 looks like __MORE was actually never used 12:47:29 is it difficult? when orc break out of poly, he must pickup he's gifts 12:47:31 I do not like the current orc gift mechanic at all 12:47:45 if you have lots of dudes elsewhere you can occasionally kill something dangerous by pressing ab 12:47:54 -!- Kanbei has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:48:06 <}> Well I take very good care of my orcs and got a warlord in lair 12:48:16 <}> I treasure him, and he's quite powerful that early 12:48:24 I mean, the thing where beogh drops orcs on you 12:48:27 <|amethyst> hong: you'd have to carefully move around to make sure it steps on the right squares 12:48:43 <|amethyst> hong: and the gifts might be on a different level 12:48:48 |amethyst: in principle you could pick the items up and carry them around? still sounds both messy and unintuitive 12:48:54 set props on the orc & on the weapons... 12:49:06 <}> PleasingFungus, I think he orc gifts he drops on you should only occur in orcish mines maybe, so if you're out of orcs you go there 12:49:15 uh 12:49:24 what? 12:49:29 <|amethyst> yeah, that sounds bad 12:49:35 <|amethyst> you won't be gaining XP in orcish mines anyway 12:49:44 <}> Because he fits you weak orcs in dangerous places, they dont survive 12:49:46 <|amethyst> s/XP/piety/ 12:49:52 <}> gifts* 12:50:01 ok I gotta go talk to a man about a car 12:50:09 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 12:50:23 <|amethyst> "talk to a man about a car" --- ouch, sounds like kidney stones 12:50:36 <}> I think.. 2 orcs he gifted me in swap survived and I had to babysit them until they got to stairs safely, and park them on a cleared level 12:50:55 <}> That's tedious, annoying and stupid 12:51:02 the gifted orcs could scale based on something, so you wouldn't get plain orcs in zot 12:51:55 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:55 <}> Well I talked to beogh about it (the player who plays beogh all the time) 12:51:58 <|amethyst> they scale based on your XP 12:52:09 <}> And he says, he just doesnt do orcish mines at all, and keeps it as a reservoir for replacements 12:52:18 <}> Sohe wont care if the gifts die 12:52:19 <|amethyst> but in a limited way 12:52:26 gift means he's equipment. am i mistake using word? 12:52:27 what if beogh didn't gift orcs, just bumped up the orc spawn chance across the dungeon, with the flavor of "all of these orcs have heard about your teachings and are seeking you out", and then normal conversion rules apply 12:52:32 <|amethyst> if (random2(you.experience_level) >= 9 && coinflip()) 12:52:32 <|amethyst> follower_type = RANDOM_ELEMENT(high_xl_followers); 12:52:32 <|amethyst> else 12:52:32 <|amethyst> follower_type = RANDOM_ELEMENT(followers); 12:52:56 hong: there are two kinds of gift: players give orcs equipment. beogh will give a player new orcs 12:53:01 they're talking about the second one 12:53:49 -!- tedric has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:49 <}> doy, What problems does that solve though? It would still be some orc in swap near a green dragon, which would instantly die the moment you convert it 12:53:50 <|amethyst> (but high_xl_followers includes orc priests...) 12:54:01 <}> s/swap/swamp 12:54:03 <}> I hate this keyboard 12:54:09 <|amethyst> is there a reason high_xl_followers shouldn't include sorcerers or high priests instead? 12:54:11 smite-targeted irresistible damage!!! 12:54:30 <|amethyst> and use a monster picker instead of that random2() 12:54:49 ah i just meaned about equip's about kirke's bug #10000, i mistaked, sorry 12:55:32 <|amethyst> hong: yeah, it was } who brought up the reinforcement blessing 12:55:44 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:49 tigertrap (L22 MfSu) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 226 failed. (Snake:4) 12:56:26 03Medar02 07* 0.18-a0-667-g56ca578: Remove unused monster speech command __MORE. 10(18 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/56ca578a3a57 12:56:29 <}> My proposal is this, the game currently checks your threat level right? Only gift orcs if there's low threat and no clouds near you 12:56:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 12:57:25 <}> Then you can at least put them away safely 12:57:32 well, it solves the problem of orcs spawning in clouds or whatever 12:57:49 I don't think some of the orcs dying instantly is a big deal 12:57:58 <|amethyst> my proposal would be a "dismiss" key that sends them to Orc:1 12:58:11 <}> I like that 12:58:12 <|amethyst> then you can recall them later if you want 12:58:44 even if they start safe, they are useless if you can't level them up in a reasonable manner 12:58:51 <}> But I think it would be nice if beogh (the player) had some input on this since he played beogh over 100 times 12:58:53 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59:14 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:16 -!- Cacophony has quit [Changing host] 12:59:20 <|amethyst> !lg * beogh s=name 12:59:22 42092 games for * (beogh): 1441x Thrall, 1111x hanon12, 617x Hourscht, 572x Shin, 477x smithcolint, 472x Insomniak, 392x mitsilvan, 314x Tekoppen, 310x faldo, 304x Foggy, 256x ceb, 250x SiotWarrior, 223x nobo, 220x Vesto, 217x KareS, 213x Saty, 196x JohnAsti, 189x DenpaOtoko, 185x larasium, 180x Orlog, 176x wanker126, 163x Zermako, 152x noob, 150x mibo0001, 150x rjames93, 140x ion, 139x silvan, 13... 12:59:33 <}> !lg * beogh !boring s=name 12:59:35 38796 games for * (beogh !boring): 993x hanon12, 911x Thrall, 591x Hourscht, 474x smithcolint, 470x Insomniak, 387x mitsilvan, 311x Tekoppen, 301x Foggy, 292x faldo, 256x ceb, 240x SiotWarrior, 222x nobo, 213x Vesto, 213x Saty, 183x JohnAsti, 181x larasium, 179x DenpaOtoko, 176x wanker126, 171x KareS, 165x Orlog, 154x Zermako, 149x rjames93, 148x mibo0001, 141x noob, 135x silvan, 134x SamB, 132x S... 12:59:38 <}> !lg * beogh !boring s=name recent 12:59:39 3772 games for * (beogh !boring recent): 216x hanon12, 107x Beogh, 54x DenpaOtoko, 44x gw, 41x Weishaupt, 39x tlatlagkaus, 35x Thrall, 32x Larett, 30x happy2pester, 29x ecbois, 28x avis, 28x DukeNuker, 28x teukkam, 26x flt, 25x adamzap, 23x Komi, 22x gamgams, 22x Vibarexel, 22x kamikashin, 22x nobo, 21x Insomniak, 20x Nachomamma7, 20x garf, 20x dualclasshuman, 19x gribnar, 19x WhatIsLove, 18x thel... 12:59:48 !lg * beogh !boring recent s=src 12:59:49 3772 games for * (beogh !boring recent): 1070x cszo, 964x cao, 614x cbro, 504x cwz, 236x cue, 185x cxc, 91x lld, 71x cpo, 37x cdo 12:59:50 <}> hanon12 and beogh are the ones who played the new beogh (after hes changed) 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:06 <}> the emost 13:00:09 <|amethyst> !lg beogh s=src 13:00:10 328 games for beogh: 328x cszo 13:00:22 <|amethyst> I am surprised that cwz isn't higher there 13:00:31 that's what I was checking :) 13:00:41 <|amethyst> !lg * beogh !boring s=src 13:00:42 38796 games for * (beogh !boring): 15971x cao, 10031x cdo, 7695x cszo, 2148x ckr, 755x cue, 746x cbro, 554x cwz, 279x rhf, 266x lld, 208x cxc, 74x cpo, 69x csn 13:00:58 <|amethyst> !lg * s=src /beogh o=% 13:01:04 42092/4984730 games for *: 341/24437x rhf [1.40%], 2304/178317x ckr [1.29%], 291/27988x lld [1.04%], 10657/1027574x cdo [1.04%], 17420/1952887x cao [0.89%], 74/9527x csn [0.78%], 8554/1154194x cszo [0.74%], 754/147304x cbro [0.51%], 629/126797x cwz [0.50%], 75/21627x cpo [0.35%], 778/228646x cue [0.34%], 215/85432x cxc [0.25%] 13:01:04 <|amethyst> !lg * recent s=src /beogh o=% 13:01:11 3914/934454 games for * (recent): 93/13208x lld [0.70%], 620/104899x cbro [0.59%], 572/118079x cwz [0.48%], 1089/245730x cszo [0.44%], 1001/243775x cao [0.41%], 72/18970x cpo [0.38%], 238/65301x cue [0.36%], 192/74351x cxc [0.26%], 37/50141x cdo [0.07%] 13:01:20 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:02:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:50 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:05:14 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:15 The build passed. (master - db01d97 #4103 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/95079606 13:05:15 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:05:16 tigertrap (L23 MfSu) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 226 failed. (Snake:4) 13:07:46 <}> why is beogh so much more popular on some servers 13:08:32 koreans love beogh 13:09:09 Are you trying to say that koreans are orcs? 13:09:26 i am korean. haha 13:10:08 korean enjoy like that breeding another character 13:12:11 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:14:21 i heard about korean posted some text, about critic beogh policy. is it true? and heard too forum was boomed out. 13:14:35 Grunt, |amethyst: ais523 is NOT on the devteam, neither am I. we have been asked but have declined for various reasons. but paxed and lorimer have been recruited and are already showing signs of the nethack devteam's disease. they are trying to resist but we all know, it's only a matter of time. 13:14:52 yeah, I remember someone compiled some korean feedback 13:15:06 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12966 13:15:11 pleasingfungus, in fact 13:15:28 <|amethyst> btw, I haven't verified this but if true it sounds like a pretty significant bug: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18424 13:15:41 <|amethyst> (summon forest terrain changes are permanent if you let it expire off-level) 13:16:11 it sounds like it's not permanent, just the timer doesn't change while you're off level 13:16:16 <}> "Several respondents seemed to think that western players/developers were obsessed with speedrunning, which is... kind of ironic." 13:16:19 <}> haha 13:16:31 <|amethyst> aha 13:16:51 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: yeah, that seems to be the case 13:17:18 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: so it's just a minor bug that the status light and the actual effect desync 13:17:30 oh it's so critic. 13:17:37 given that esports is a major thing in Korea, are Korean developers more concerned making a game more enjoyable as a spectator's game? 13:18:07 }: in my experience basically any request by anyone for any change in any direction is backed up by "only elitist super players would want it any other way" 13:18:11 i think he was so pissed off about something like -more- 13:18:39 "Beogh is a great god and the balance is appropriate. However there is a critical bug right now where if you end the game at Pandemonium and restart your orc(s?) disappear (they reappear when you use the recall power) with HP fully recovered. There are cases where this is abused for insane speedruns." 13:18:43 did that ever get fied 13:18:46 *fixed 13:19:18 think the first post implies it was fixed 13:19:38