00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:44 it just feels like banishing people to like 00:00:46 ontoclasm: sounds reasonable to me 00:00:47 lair 00:00:53 once they've cleared lair 00:00:57 Grunt: the abyssal rune is already doing things other than allow entry to places, no? 00:02:06 I guess there are some questions though like whether it should protect you from disto unwield 00:02:12 erolcha banishes you to lair:8! 00:02:34 since if so then it would actually arguably be a drawback to get the rune lategame, which isn't good 00:03:00 victim no. 3 managed to escape but an executioner followed them 00:03:25 should have used a blowgun on it 00:04:46 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:05:09 -!- EriktheRed has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:06:23 !tell gammafunk imo think of some P overflow altars (which I am also trying to do) 00:06:24 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 00:07:43 altar with an empty wand of magic darts on it 00:08:04 miek_: they hit you with a smite-targeted, irresistible effect that lasted for 80-120 turns and regularly spawned more wolves throughout the duration. 00:08:25 !smite PleasingFungus 00:08:25 Grunt gestures. Something smites PleasingFungus! 00:12:18 * PleasingFungus is smitten! 00:13:15 rip 00:13:49 !blamen 3 grunt 00:13:49 gggggggggggggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnttttttttttttttttttttttttttt 00:15:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:04 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:17:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:17 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:24:30 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24:54 our thanksgiving pie wasn't just a pie at all....... 00:28:00 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-316-gf882de5 (34) 00:28:15 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:29:59 so 00:30:02 someone has pointed out to me 00:30:15 what is the interaction between Ru's Sacrifice Artifice and zigfigs 00:33:30 heh 00:33:32 ??zigfig 00:33:33 I don't have a page labeled zigfig in my learndb. 00:33:40 ?/zigfig 00:33:40 No matches. 00:33:49 "screw you if you wanted to use them and you sacced artifice?" 00:34:06 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34:09 imo "Sacrifice Ziggurat" is a mutation nobody is ever going to take 00:34:14 I keep thinking it's a play on 'sigfigs, ie significant figures' but I'm sure it's not 00:34:42 really? 00:35:20 i mean, i rarely take sacrifice artifice, but having it prevent me from doing zigs wouldn't affect the decision much more than all the other good evokables already do 00:36:20 although i'm not entirely clear on how the figurine works? i was under the impression that you could still do the depths zig anyway, but you got the figurine in tomb:3 and could use it to start mega-zigging 00:36:32 if that's wrong then maybe it would affect my decision 00:39:23 -!- Scherzo is now known as ZugAddict 00:40:15 Grunt: we talked about this - last night? I think everyone was in agreement that it was a bad interaction 00:40:37 new level 8 tloc spell - summon ziggurat portal 00:40:45 oh, is that what prompted that discussion? I know there was talk about changing what the sacrifice did 00:40:54 suggestions for a fix included "make it give an ability rather than be evocable" and "make sac evo more narrow" 00:40:56 ya 00:41:02 ProzacElf: that summary is correct 00:43:42 FireSight (L5 GrCK) (D:3) 00:44:13 ? 00:44:17 !crashlog firesight 00:44:18 1. FireSight, XL5 GrCK, T:1889 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/FireSight/crash-FireSight-20151127-054351.txt 00:44:25 then honestly, i'd be inclined to say "just don't take that sacrifice if you want to megazig" 00:44:28 oh 00:44:34 or at least i'd say that's not a totally unreasonable way to approach it 00:44:55 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:52:15 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:19 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:55:44 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:56:00 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:56:55 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:58:41 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:59:09 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:49 I wonder if anyone's found a chessboard yet 01:02:34 I saw someone find a chess piece earlier!! 01:02:41 :o 01:02:53 push my sparkly chess piece tiles in plz 01:02:54 -!- nikheizen_ is now known as nikheizen 01:03:04 including the thimble, ofcourse 01:03:33 haha, this broken Ds is funny 01:03:44 chequers: oh? 01:03:47 i'm a vegetarian deteriorator 01:03:59 and i got two levels of iridiscent scales in one go 01:04:18 nice 01:04:59 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:05:19 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:36 also i have the latter two spirit shield levels without spirit shield itself 01:05:55 haha 01:06:16 ProzacElf: it could just be a scroll fo ziggurat 01:06:19 of* 01:06:30 is there an easy way to do simplify that corpse= logic? I just want to randomly pick one of the corpse types http://pastebin.com/5pHsPCJ8 01:06:47 alternately: ziggurat ration 01:06:50 eat to enter a zig 01:07:13 ziggurat potion 01:07:15 another mu nerf! 01:07:16 there will always be just one G, but there could be multiple 'g's. I want all G and g corpses to be the same monster type 01:11:26 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-316-gf882de5 (34) 01:13:06 -!- angelichorsey1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:15:29 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:18:47 well, that would work too 01:19:02 the scroll of zig that is 01:19:28 hmm.....i was going to start another vpck again soon 01:19:52 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-316-gf882de5 (34) 01:20:27 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:20:45 if it's a scroll it would start IDed, right? 01:22:01 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:24 -!- Idolo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:22:44 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:23:03 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar 01:23:13 -!- seriallos has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:23:20 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:23:39 -!- wmbt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:23:43 -!- atomicthumbs has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:23:43 -!- Sorbius_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:24:11 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:24:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:24:11 -!- R18 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:24:12 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:24:12 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:24:14 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:24:15 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:24:26 -!- nikheizen_ is now known as nikheizen 01:24:49 -!- ussdefiant__ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:54 -!- ussdefiant__ is now known as ussdefiant 01:26:27 it's pretty cool you can run lua from vaults 01:28:46 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:51 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35:51 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:37:34 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:57 -!- Sorbius__ has quit [*.net *.split] 01:37:57 -!- Insomniak` has quit [*.net *.split] 01:37:58 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [*.net *.split] 01:37:58 -!- molotove has quit [*.net *.split] 01:38:01 -!- cmcbot has quit [*.net *.split] 01:38:02 -!- Mindiell has quit [*.net *.split] 01:38:56 -!- ydeve has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:41:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:42:20 did quasits get beefed up recently or did i just have an extremely unlucky encounter? 01:43:02 what happened 01:44:46 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:45:16 heh, i was fighting one on d:3 and got knocked down from 13 dex to -7 01:45:35 now granted, i was using a chaos weapon, so i might've healed it once in there 01:45:39 but it wasn't even hasted or anything 01:48:33 interesting. 01:48:51 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:51 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:49:57 I've definitely heard of that happening to people before 01:49:59 not recently 01:50:02 -!- koolatron has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:50:13 rip 01:50:38 heh 01:50:40 i lived! 01:50:44 i had to use all my potions 01:50:54 there's that one tv of some dwarf getting to like -100 dex 01:50:54 and i died the first time i ran into a worker ant afterward 01:50:56 but i lived! 01:51:03 !lg * min=dex 01:51:06 4955521. avis the Reanimator (L7 DDNe of Makhleb), got out of the dungeon alive on 2015-05-02 21:11:45, with 613 points after 5983 turns and 0:34:44. 01:51:41 heh 01:54:35 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:54:52 so in my last win, i got evilmike_geh 01:54:55 and it generated a ghost 01:55:01 but the ghost was placed out in the lava 01:55:13 is there a reasonable thing that we could do to prevent this? 01:55:14 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-316-gf882de5 01:55:48 can't ghosts fly? 01:55:54 yeah, they can 01:56:11 but the whole point of that level is that the lava area is entirely cut off from the land part 01:56:15 !vault evilmike_geh 01:56:15 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/geh.des#l552 01:56:18 oh, I see 01:57:21 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:58:15 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:51 ghosts get placed in other inaccessible areas too 02:01:00 yeah 02:01:00 -!- molotove2 is now known as molotove 02:01:15 i'm not sure we have a good definition of "sort of inaccessible area" 02:01:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:01:26 no tele into? 02:01:32 the lava isn't no_tele_into 02:01:46 it's not supposed to be impossible to get to, just inconvenient 02:01:55 hmm 02:02:08 like i've seen them behind unbreakable glass in some god altar vaults and other things like that 02:02:12 when the ghost gets placed, do a connectivity check then? 02:02:20 yeah, a connectivity check might work 02:02:25 hmmm 02:02:26 do a check to see if the ghost can reach a staircase 02:05:26 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:07:38 do uniques have this problem 02:08:07 maybe? 02:10:07 functionality to show (carried) items for Ctrl-F is good -- but can we specially disable it for Ctrl-F . ? 02:10:08 i don't think i've ever seen a unique spawn somewhere like that 02:10:40 closest i can think of is finding rupert's corpse because he (presumably) spawned next to a wall and died there 02:10:50 but it wasn't someplace inaccessible 02:11:02 man, vaults+lua is pretty powerful and neato stuff 02:11:46 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:13:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:13:49 oh hey 02:13:54 esp once I realized how to use kmons() within {{ lua stuff }} 02:13:54 I found a chessboard 02:13:56 in my pak game! 02:18:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:21 oooo 02:20:39 huh, that's interesting 02:20:45 a deck showed up as a chessboard 02:21:06 aww yeah 02:21:11 swapped places 02:21:13 excellent point, dpeg 02:21:58 could I get some comments/critique on my first overflow vault attempt? http://i.imgur.com/vrntoeA.png 02:22:37 hmm, can you add blood spatter 02:23:15 aw 02:23:20 oh. probably 02:23:21 xom stole the chessboard on the 4th use. 02:25:19 so, question 02:25:36 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:25:42 for clarity, should i put (ontoclasm) in the commit name of tiles i make myself 02:25:52 or is it clear enough when there's no name 02:26:04 it seems silly to do so 02:26:45 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 02:26:57 redundancy is good 02:27:20 mm 02:27:55 (me) 02:28:15 (.) 02:28:23 hah 02:28:43 CanOfWorms: the vault guide instructs me to use 'bloody' very very sparingly ;p 02:29:40 ah 02:29:45 hmm, a pack of spark wasps 02:29:48 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.18-a0-317-g1421722: Elemental tiles (ontoclasm) 10(5 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/142172204561 02:29:51 this should be interesting 02:29:54 getting all the new commits 02:30:06 heh 02:30:11 must've been a fluke on the last quasit 02:30:15 i only lost 4 dex this time =p 02:31:06 especially unsure about the water one 02:31:07 I look forward to confusing lava worms and fire elementals :v 02:31:14 >.< 02:31:21 i liked the water one 02:31:32 i was probably least fond of fire 02:31:40 although i'll have to see them in action 02:31:51 they always look different in game than in isolation 02:32:12 yeah 02:32:18 tell me if they're ugly xD 02:33:02 hmm 02:34:02 heh 02:34:10 hey, i finally quit complaining about the change to mummies 02:34:21 CanOfWorms: you should make a phantom mirror tile too :< 02:34:22 nice, secret spark wasp tech 02:34:22 i've even grown to like menkaure's pimp cup 02:34:30 surround yourself with non-spark wasp monsters 02:34:33 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:35 I should! 02:34:57 i forgot it didn't have one 02:35:16 what didn't? 02:35:21 the mirror 02:35:31 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:35:56 ??phantom mirror 02:35:56 phantom mirror[1/3]: An evocable - creates a friendly illusory duplicate of a target monster; consumed on use. Duration increases with Evocations and decreases with target's MR (minimum duration is 6). Stacks in your inventory! For the rakshasa ability, see {rakshasa[2]}. 02:36:21 no specific visual reference 02:36:23 good enough for me 02:36:36 since when doesn't it have a tile? 02:36:43 it has a tile 02:36:50 it doesn't have a *good* tile 02:37:25 dang... 02:38:06 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:10 ??ufetubus 02:39:11 ufetubus[1/1]: An unremarkable minor demon. Hits harder than an imp, but doesn't regenerate as quickly and doesn't blink, so much less annoying. Getting mobbed by these can cause a fatal lack of mobility if there are smiters nearby, but otherwise harmless. 02:39:11 @??ufetubus 02:39:11 ufetubus (115) | Spd: 15 | HD: 1 | HP: 4-10 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Dam: 5, 5 | 05demonic, 10doors | Res: 06magic(10), 02cold, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 8 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:39:21 anyone have suggestions for a color scheme? 02:39:45 CanOfWorms: http://i.imgur.com/j09w3tY.png 02:39:49 i vote "anything but gold" 02:40:18 yeah, that looks pretty cool 02:40:18 it actually does seem to enhance it :) 02:40:18 gold, got it 02:40:57 -!- ZugAddict has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 02:41:39 how embarrasing 02:41:59 I walked onto one of those grate traps for stairs without realising I didn't have any digging or disint on me 02:42:13 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 02:44:12 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:45:08 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:55 hrm 02:47:28 &zteleport crashes 02:47:29 ASSERT(range >= 0) in 'beam.cc' at line 613 failed. (beam '', source 'player', item 'none'; has range -1) 02:47:29 i'm... not really looking to dive into beam.cc tonight though 02:49:23 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Excess Flood] 02:51:24 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-317-g1421722 02:51:24 -!- cmcbot has quit [Excess Flood] 02:51:47 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:54:29 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:55:20 &zteleport causes an assertion failure 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10111 by doy 02:56:06 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07:05 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:12 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:09:39 the worst thing about spark wasps is the message spam from packs 03:12:25 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 03:13:39 whoo, a new chessboard 03:15:18 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 03:15:42 Spriggan race change(after cure mutation?) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10112 by Demo 03:15:57 alright 03:15:57 let's make a new mirror 03:16:31 nice. 03:20:05 actually, what's the glyph for phantom mirrors? 03:20:05 ??glyph 03:20:48 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:48 -!- atomicthumbs has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:39 hmm, looks like the glyph is red 03:21:40 glyph ~ glyphs[1/2]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 03:22:31 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-317-g1421722 (34) 03:22:46 -!- Syader has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:26:03 -!- } is now known as Guest81618 03:29:35 -!- vale_ has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:36 -!- ac13 has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:36 -!- rockit__ has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:39 -!- Gretell has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:40 -!- HellTiger has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:45 -!- ebering has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:48 -!- Napkin has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:54 -!- myp has quit [*.net *.split] 03:29:55 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 03:30:00 -!- ebering has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:03 -!- Guest81618 has quit [] 03:30:14 -!- paxed has quit [Changing host] 03:30:14 -!- knu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:30:15 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:32:28 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:33:35 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 03:34:40 http://i.imgur.com/kT9re08.png 03:34:57 that's pretty cool 03:35:31 a phantom mirror walks into view. 03:36:11 -!- ebering_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:36:43 %git 218144349b 03:36:43 07doy02 * 0.18-a0-314-g2181443: add some more aliases for ^F for resistances 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/218144349b22 03:37:54 http://i.imgur.com/Vs4gUrO.png 03:37:54 bit spookier 03:38:45 doy: those won't be added for artefacts, do they already have those strings? what about all the other resistances? 03:39:01 neat 03:39:48 03doy02 07* 0.18-a0-318-g68e13a1: give proper unconstricting messages when teleporting a monster away 10(20 minutes ago, 3 files, 10+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/68e13a15cb8f 03:39:48 03doy02 07* 0.18-a0-319-gafa5e9d: add a command listing doc organized by keystroke 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 135+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/afa5e9db3488 03:40:03 doy: don't think it's good idea to add those for only part, because it's confusing for player who learned to search for "resist fire" but then "resist poison" doesn't work the same way 03:41:39 -!- ac13 has quit [*.net *.split] 03:41:40 -!- ebering has quit [*.net *.split] 03:41:48 -!- doy has quit [*.net *.split] 03:41:50 -!- atomicthumbs has quit [*.net *.split] 03:41:50 -!- seriallos has quit [*.net *.split] 03:42:17 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 03:42:17 -!- knu has quit [*.net *.split] 03:42:18 -!- buki has quit [*.net *.split] 03:42:22 -!- tksquared_ has quit [*.net *.split] 03:42:28 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 03:42:36 -!- HellTiger has quit [*.net *.split] 03:44:06 &dump Demo 03:44:19 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Demo/Demo.txt 03:44:34 Freenode always dying :\ 03:44:34 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:45:34 %git d0de26f 03:45:35 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-311-gd0de26f: Emergency mutation enum swap (#10110). 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0de26f4cdf6 03:51:31 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:55:19 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:59:34 oh 03:59:42 this is going to hinder my ability to find a chess piece 04:00:00 the fact that i've been doing this game on 0.17 04:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:01:52 -!- Luca_Blight has quit [] 04:02:01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ftRXG8T9k 04:02:30 well you avoided some nice bugs at least :) 04:02:50 -!- knu has quit [*.net *.split] 04:02:50 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [*.net *.split] 04:02:53 -!- ebering_ has quit [*.net *.split] 04:02:54 -!- myp has quit [*.net *.split] 04:02:54 -!- tksquared has quit [*.net *.split] 04:02:56 -!- vale_ has quit [*.net *.split] 04:02:56 -!- } has quit [*.net *.split] 04:02:59 -!- Mindiell has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:00 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:02 -!- kunwon1 has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:02 -!- cmcbot has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:02 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:04 -!- Patashu has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:05 -!- elliptic has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:07 -!- neunon has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:08 -!- Dustbin has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:08 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:11 -!- Jels has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:14 -!- Blazinghand has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:14 -!- oky has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:16 -!- timbabwe has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:17 -!- johnstein has quit [*.net *.split] 04:03:18 bug soup 04:03:18 rip 04:03:45 haha 04:04:01 haven't gotten out of the habit of not hitting trunk since the tourney ende 04:04:02 d 04:04:23 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:06 hmm, who can backup games on CAO? 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04:52:26 looks like I screwed up the pull request? 04:52:48 freenode is just lagging/netsplitting like crazy 04:53:11 all I did was rebase on top of evoker-god-rebase 04:53:11 then use that for my pull request 04:53:26 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:13 it seems fine on the page, I think 04:54:13 maybe chei assumes it's against master 04:54:24 i guess Cheibriados isnt that smart 04:54:50 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:55:03 ah maybe 04:56:00 -!- knu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:56:09 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 05:00:21 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:39 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:02:15 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 05:06:44 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:15 -!- glosham_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:07:15 -!- easttuth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:08:07 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:08:32 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:09:05 i heard that freenode was victim of a DDoS 05:09:05 no idea if that's true though 05:09:17 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:11:17 https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/670162459328684032 05:11:31 yup 05:11:52 not the first time 05:13:02 thanks to a dumb comic I read more than a decade ago every time I see DDoS I can't help thinking it's someone stuttering trying to say DOS 05:13:40 (as in disk operating system) 05:14:24 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:14:42 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:03 http://pikselinviilaajat.net/comic-image/5e942c3e78145e11f23dce398f1d5841/DOS-hy%C3%B6kk%C3%A4ys then there's also this 05:17:12 DOS attack! 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quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:43:33 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:13 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:50 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:51:11 there seems to be a bug in arena, !fight always asserts after few turns 07:51:16 not sure what version it's running 07:53:47 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:55:13 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09:12 -!- onmyo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:10:42 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:13:40 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 08:17:36 -!- axujen has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:19:02 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22:59 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:24:32 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:24:49 -!- Mandevil\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:24:50 -!- wmbt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:25:23 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:30:21 Game crashed/cannot resume save 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10109 by gressup 08:32:09 -!- atomicthumbs has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:24 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:44:14 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:18 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:51:37 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:52:20 -!- siepu has quit [*.net *.split] 08:52:20 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [*.net *.split] 08:52:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:26 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:52 -!- debo has quit [Client Quit] 08:55:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:14 Medar: would it fix #10109 if i consolidated all the messages into one message? 08:55:39 "Fixed bad position for inventory slots abFGMZ." 08:56:04 If I'm correct about what's causing it, then yes. 08:56:41 But I haven't tested anything, just read the logs. 09:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:25 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:04:42 Medar: actually, do you think loading it on console would work? 09:04:54 since then i can tell them to do it while the fix compiles 09:07:08 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-320-g83a8755: Try to fix #10109. 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83a875511470 09:08:40 I'm not sure. 09:09:04 Both are on ##crawl btw. 09:09:46 ??rebuild 09:09:47 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 09:09:59 !source tileweb.cc 09:09:59 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tileweb.cc 09:12:23 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:21:43 .banisheddd 09:21:51 11. [2015-11-27 13:54:31] Nico3ck the Farming Naga of Death (L27 NaGl of Makhleb) was cast into the Abyss! (a distortion unwield) (Zig:23) 09:22:29 oh wow got 8 over night 09:22:50 !cmd .banisheddd 09:22:50 Command: .banisheddd => !lm * deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3 $* 09:23:05 !lm * deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3 x=oplace 09:23:13 11. [2015-11-27 13:54:31] [oplace=Zig:23] Nico3ck the Farming Naga of Death (L27 NaGl of Makhleb) was cast into the Abyss! (a distortion unwield) (Zig:23) 09:23:16 !lm * deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3 x=oplace,place 09:23:24 11. [2015-11-27 13:54:31] [oplace=Zig:23;place=Abyss:5] Nico3ck the Farming Naga of Death (L27 NaGl of Makhleb) was cast into the Abyss! (a distortion unwield) (Zig:23) 09:23:36 !lm * deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3 s=place 09:23:51 11 milestones for * (deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3): 6x Abyss:3, 3x Abyss:4, 2x Abyss:5 09:23:57 cool 09:24:13 .banisheddd min=xl x=place 09:24:36 11. [2015-11-27 10:23:38] [place=Abyss:3] Rillinoh the Severer (L13 MiFi of Ru) was cast into the Abyss! (a wizard) (D:14) 09:27:07 -!- Smello has quit [*.net *.split] 09:27:07 -!- Sorbius has quit [*.net *.split] 09:27:09 -!- Mandevil\splat has quit [*.net *.split] 09:27:11 -!- neunon has quit [*.net *.split] 09:27:13 -!- tksquared has quit [*.net *.split] 09:27:14 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [*.net *.split] 09:27:15 -!- Jels has quit [*.net *.split] 09:27:17 -!- Smello_ is now known as Smello 09:27:18 that seems a bit rough 09:27:35 guess A:1 could be made bit easier now 09:27:48 @??wizard 09:28:17 well, of course if abyssrun happens then it's pointless to tweak that 09:28:27 wizard (06p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 30-52 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 648 | Sp: b.venom (3d15), mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow / crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18) / magic dart (3d5), paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse / paralyse, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, fireball (3d19) / stone arrow (3d17), sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 09:28:27 %??wizard 09:28:37 other bot is gone 09:28:50 gretell got netsplit 09:28:53 .banisheddd min=xl x=place -2 09:29:08 10/11. [2015-11-27 03:07:49] [place=Abyss:4] Mong the Unseen (L16 VpEn of Okawaru) was cast into the Abyss! (miscasting Shadow Creatures) (Spider:1) 09:29:15 heh 09:29:43 using player XL like HD for self banishment makes miscasts way more dangerous 09:30:14 should be probably tweaked down 09:30:42 well, if L16 -> A:4 is standard, I don't know how random it is 09:30:58 that's the worst end of the roll 09:31:27 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:33:24 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-320-g83a8755 (34) 09:42:17 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:44:02 ebering: did you shrink Abyss to four levels? 09:45:09 he meant worst end for xl 16 character miscasting spell 09:45:27 .banisheddd s=place 09:45:43 12 milestones for * (deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3): 7x Abyss:3, 3x Abyss:4, 2x Abyss:5 09:45:45 there have been two directly to a:5 09:46:06 one was the very first one. a troggie fighting an alich 09:46:20 .banisheddd place=a:5 09:46:21 No milestones for * (deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3 place=a:5). 09:46:24 .banisheddd place=abyss:5 09:46:39 2. [2015-11-27 13:54:31] Nico3ck the Farming Naga of Death (L27 NaGl of Makhleb) was cast into the Abyss! (a distortion unwield) (Zig:23) 09:47:17 less effective escape mechanism now 09:47:57 !lm * deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss s=place 09:48:01 !kw deepabyss 09:48:01 Keyword: deepabyss => vlong>=0.18-a0-289-g35c3a75 !experimental 09:48:08 21 milestones for * (deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss): 7x Abyss:3, 5x Abyss:2, 4x Abyss:1, 3x Abyss:4, 2x Abyss:5 09:48:28 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:59 !lm * deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss x=min(xl),avg(xl),max(xl) / s=place 09:50:16 21 milestones for * (deepabyss abyss.enter br=Abyss): 7x Abyss:3 [13, 20.86, 27], 5x Abyss:2 [10, 17.8, 26], 4x Abyss:1 [6, 10, 15], 3x Abyss:4 [16, 21.67, 27], 2x Abyss:5 [23, 25, 27] 09:52:43 dpeg: he did not; that's me on ahyssrun branch 09:52:43 Grunt: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:54:51 alternate solution: 09:54:52 %git HEAD^{/levels of the [Aa]byss} 09:54:52 07bh02 * 0.12-a0-1456-ga66ddf5: The 27 levels of the abyss 10(3 years, 3 months ago, 4 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a66ddf5017c0 09:55:34 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:58:49 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:59:10 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00:17 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:59 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:30 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:09:04 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:12:47 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:21:23 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:23:05 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:36 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:11 <}> In the arena, can you specify that a monster has a shield AND a weapon? 5 orc warlord ; large shield works but 5 orc warlord ; large shield ; double sword -- doesnt 10:24:20 <}> Also can you specify that it must be unarmed? 10:25:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:15 <|amethyst> }: 5 orc warlord ; large shield . double sword 10:25:18 <|amethyst> }: 5 orc warlord ; nothing 10:25:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:25:29 I like being able to search inventory. But it makes ^f. unclear 10:25:51 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:59 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:27:20 <|amethyst> you can do ctrl-f {D:1} or whatever 10:27:32 <|amethyst> you can leave out the curly braces everywhere except D:1 10:27:48 <|amethyst> (you need those so that it doesn't report on D:10 - D:15 as well) 10:28:28 <|amethyst> but, yeah, perhaps . shouldn't match inventory 10:28:50 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:00 thanks for the tip 10:29:04 03doy02 07* 0.18-a0-321-g825dae7: allow autotargeting of no-xp but dangerous monsters 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/825dae7751af 10:30:33 doy: did you see my comment about extra aliases for ^F earlier? there was some netsplitting 10:30:39 Medar: i did not 10:30:53 %git 218144349 10:30:53 07doy02 * 0.18-a0-314-g2181443: add some more aliases for ^F for resistances 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/218144349b22 10:30:56 <|amethyst> doy: hm, so now spells will autotarget butterflies? 10:31:20 inb4 don't target monsters with no damage and autotarget now ignores OOFs 10:31:32 doy: those won't be added for artefacts, thought they might already have some similar strings 10:31:40 |amethyst: we could probably explicitly exclude them, i think 10:31:41 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:31:56 <|amethyst> doy: there is a PR about separating no-XP from no-threat 10:31:57 Medar: ah, good point 10:32:07 doy: more importantly, I think it's really bad adding these for only two resistances. it will teach players that a search works, but then it won't when they are trying to find poison resist 10:32:12 <|amethyst> doy: but I think it still has some of the monsters categorized incorrectly 10:32:24 <|amethyst> doy: might be a good starting point 10:32:37 <|amethyst> doy: (or maybe it was that some of the checks used the wrong flag) 10:33:22 Medar: i think it's totally reasonable to just add aliases for poison resist then 10:33:39 i mean, it's basically zero cost 10:33:55 and all the others 10:34:15 the cost is maintaining it, but sure it's reasonable 10:34:24 i'm fine with taking patches 10:36:16 I just think having less aliases and being consistant is better than having more and being inconsistant 10:36:56 i just find it really irritating when i'm trying to find something and can't figure out what the right thing to search for is 10:37:34 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:35 The build passed. (tarwolves - 30161c8 #3847 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93453562 10:37:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:38:13 biggest reason for the mess is the disconnect between basetypes and artefact properties 10:38:28 <|amethyst> also things like golden dragon armour 10:38:42 <|amethyst> which don't have artps or a brand, yet grant three resistances 10:38:43 having some nice method for this base item comes with these properties would be good 10:39:56 <|amethyst> for jewellery we have: 10:40:00 <|amethyst> !source jewellery_artps 10:40:00 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/artefact.cc#l421 10:40:50 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:11 frostbite made it in :D 10:41:12 nicolae-: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:41:14 !messages 10:41:15 (1/1) wheals said (23h 8m 10s ago): niiiiicooooolaaaaaeeeee- 10:41:34 <|amethyst> both "ring of protection from fire" and "ring of fire resistance" have a problem with &o 10:41:43 <|amethyst> What class of item? = 10:41:43 <|amethyst> What type of item? protection 10:41:43 <|amethyst> +0 ring of protection; Ring of protection from fire 10:41:43 <|amethyst> _Something appears before you! 10:41:43 <|amethyst> _i - an uncursed ring of protection from fire 10:42:04 <|amethyst> (I know I can use &% instead) 10:42:47 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:43:45 doy: actor.cc:526:62: warning: declaration of ‘pos’ shadows a member of 'this' [-Wshadow] 10:43:59 <|amethyst> on it 10:44:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-322-g9a90bd9: Don't shadow a member. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9a90bd9846c2 10:44:31 ah :) 10:44:56 <|amethyst> as a side benefit, the definition now matches the declaration :) 10:45:20 guess there is no warning flag for that 10:46:01 <|amethyst> and in the general case you wouldn't want a warning 10:46:36 <|amethyst> because then in some situations you'd have to choose between "definition doesn't match declaration" and "unused parameter" 10:46:58 <|amethyst> though I guess you could consider a nameless parameter to match anything 10:47:05 right 10:51:44 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:33 I can't seem to reproduce the crash in 10109 locally 10:52:42 !bug 10109 10:52:42 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10109 10:52:46 hi wheals. 10:52:53 i got your niiiiicooooolaaaaaeeeee- 10:53:07 hi. 10:53:21 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:53:34 apparently gressup's game is locked on CAO now (another game is already in progress) 10:53:39 probably Syader's too then 10:54:30 <|amethyst> gressup doesn't have anything running now 10:54:36 <|amethyst> Syader does 10:54:39 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:54:40 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:54:41 -!- Rotatell has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:54:42 -!- PsyMar_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:54:42 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:54:50 <|amethyst> Syader is playing 10:54:58 might be 0.17 10:55:28 !lm Syader x=vlong 10:55:29 3206. [2015-11-27 15:47:34] [vlong=0.18-a0-320-g83a8755] Syader the Fencer (L22 VpFi of Okawaru) found a serpentine rune of Zot on turn 60999. (Snake:4) 10:55:33 <|amethyst> no, Syader is playing trunk 10:55:39 hrm 10:55:40 guess the fix worked then 10:56:03 trying to figure out how a shadow dragon could end up on d:10 10:56:19 17:55:39 gressup | "another game is already in progress using this save" 10:56:22 17:55:46 gressup | via console 10:56:30 that's too early for vault placement, and the only vault on the level doesn't place any 8s anyway 10:56:48 and it showed up after only 250 turns or so 10:57:34 <|amethyst> oh 10:57:37 <|amethyst> uppercase G 10:58:05 <|amethyst> okay, killed 10:59:25 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 10:59:31 can super-oods be placed at any time? 10:59:41 works now, thanks 10:59:41 i thought it was only after a time limit 10:59:52 doy: it's a very small chance, i think 10:59:53 ? 11:00:00 -!- Syader has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:39 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:57 small chance but possible 11:01:03 d:2 wyvern... 11:01:09 <|amethyst> if (env.turns_on_level > 1400 - place.absdepth() * 117 11:01:09 <|amethyst> && x_chance_in_y(_scale_spawn_parameter(2, 10000, 10000, 3000, 9000), 11:01:12 <|amethyst> 10000)) 11:01:20 <|amethyst> on D:10, that would be possible after 230 turns 11:01:32 oh, i didn't realize it scaled like that 11:01:34 okay 11:01:50 um 11:01:54 oh, i see 11:02:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:02:13 perhaps the comment should say *or* for those who tarry 11:02:31 <|amethyst> before 3000 turns it is a 2/10000 chance 11:03:01 !tell Grunt http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3750248&perpage=40&pagenumber=22#post453205906 11:03:02 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 11:03:36 also, it seems strange there's a 1/4 chance to skip all oods on D:2, but not on D:1 11:03:53 i think d:1 just never generates oods? 11:03:59 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:04:04 it does after turn 700 11:04:53 <|amethyst> oh 11:05:00 <|amethyst> looks like the logic may have been reversed 11:05:05 hmmm? 11:05:18 <|amethyst> %git 9bf7fa67 11:05:19 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-1648-g9bf7fa6: Simplify OOD logic somewhat. 10(3 years, 1 month ago, 1 file, 42+ 61-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9bf7fa6795fb 11:06:07 <|amethyst> before that it was if (level > 1 || (level == 1 && !one_chance_in(4)) || ... && ...) do ood 11:06:41 <|amethyst> err 11:06:48 <|amethyst> but the comments didn't match the code 11:06:56 <|amethyst> // Give 25% chance of not trying for moderate OOD on D:2 11:08:00 <|amethyst> 700 turns on D:1 isn't a lot, though 11:08:38 !calc 700 / 117 11:08:39 5 11:08:50 wouldn't that check have applied to D:3/4/5, as well 11:09:05 wai 11:09:08 oh 11:09:13 level is probably 0-based 11:09:25 so level == 1 -> D:2 11:09:34 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:45 and the level > 1 -> deeper than D:2 11:10:09 <|amethyst> it used place.absdepth() 11:12:46 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:14:08 -!- Aethei_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:15:15 thought so 11:15:17 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 11:15:29 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:46 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:17:15 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:44 |amethyst: do you think you can edit demo's CAO save from #10112? 11:18:16 to fix up those incorrect you.mutation you.innate_mutation 11:18:28 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 11:22:17 New branch created: non-threatning (5 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/non-threatning 11:22:17 03amalloy02 {doy} 07[non-threatning] * 0.18-a0-323-g9b784d9: Distinguish between 0-xp monsters and non-threatening ones 10(5 months ago, 18 files, 50+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b784d9d3b81 11:22:17 03amalloy02 {doy} 07[non-threatning] * 0.18-a0-324-gac5bd5e: Revert some checks back to mons_gives_xp (|amethyst) 10(4 months ago, 3 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ac5bd5ee30cc 11:22:17 03amalloy02 {doy} 07[non-threatning] * 0.18-a0-325-g7f45cc6: Un-revert a monster-threatening check (|amethyst again) 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f45cc66ce08 11:22:17 03amalloy02 {doy} 07[non-threatning] * 0.18-a0-326-gc3bf473: Add mons_is_threatening 10(4 months ago, 2 files, 11+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3bf473b59f1 11:22:17 03amalloy02 {doy} 07[non-threatning] * 0.18-a0-327-gc36d6c3: Use mons_is_threatening (|amethyst) 10(4 months ago, 12 files, 16+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c36d6c3baf5b 11:22:26 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:23:01 (just rebasing the pr for now, haven't reviewed or tested it yet) 11:24:38 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:11 <|amethyst> wheals: hm, not easily... I guess simplest would be to write something that clears out all the mutations and re-grants them 11:27:41 <|amethyst> wheals: wizmode doesn't give a way to change intrinsic mutations AFAICT 11:32:06 <|amethyst> wheals: I guess it wouldn't be too bad, clear all mutations and call give_basic_mutations... but Demo is playing currently 11:32:19 <|amethyst> and might not want the fix anyway, if he got hellfire mutation :) 11:33:38 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:43 -!- mopl is now known as mopl_ 11:45:19 -!- rustin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:46:19 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:20 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:22 -!- Henzell has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:24 -!- PsyMar_ has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:24 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:27 -!- xczxc has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:28 -!- HellTiger has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:30 -!- AreBrandon has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:30 -!- Zeor has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:32 -!- Kolbur has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:37 -!- neunon has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:38 -!- tksquared has quit [*.net *.split] 11:46:45 -!- neunon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:48 -!- neunon_ is now known as neunon 11:49:35 -!- EriktheRed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:53:58 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:19 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:25 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:42 |amethyst: I love that Ctrl-F shows carried items (I have filed bug reports because I mssed that I carried it!), but it'd be wonderful if Ctrl-F explicitly did not! 12:01:52 I use Ctrl-F . quite often 12:02:06 -!- SurpriseTRex__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:02:26 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:03:28 <}> Hey, crawl -arena "5 orc warlord ; large shield . nothing v 5 orc warlord ; large shield . quick blade t:50 delay:0" -- the unarmed orc warlords win by a large margin, is this a bug in how monster combat works? 12:03:50 <}> orc warlord base damage is 32, they should win with a faster weapon? 12:04:52 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-322-g9a90bd9 (34) 12:05:10 <|amethyst> }: I got 12-38 12:05:19 <}> |amethyst, for unarmed? 12:05:23 <|amethyst> so the ones with quick blades won by a large margin 12:05:27 <}> wtf 12:06:29 <}> |amethyst, this is what I get -- http://i.imgur.com/G7r3T5e.jpg 12:06:50 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 12:09:14 Bad luck with the RNG? 12:09:30 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:10:01 <|amethyst> oh 12:10:17 <|amethyst> no, I was using old old crawl accidentally 12:10:20 <|amethyst> because I forgot ./ 12:10:46 <|amethyst> I had been testing 0.15 12:11:18 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:12:21 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:13:19 <}> johnstein, I retested it for 200 turns 12:13:30 <}> crate in ##crawl says it must be a bug, I have no idea what to think 12:13:43 <|amethyst> yeah, sounds like a bug of some sort 12:14:00 Is it only with a quick blade? 12:14:30 <}> I think so, trident vs unarmed is the same winrate for me 12:14:40 what about with no shields? 12:14:42 <|amethyst> scimitar vs unarmed has unarmed win 12:14:47 <|amethyst> (with shields) 12:14:53 <}> but scimitar is slower than unarmed so it makes sense 12:14:59 <}> elliptic, I will try 12:15:09 <|amethyst> same results without shields 12:15:19 <|amethyst> ??quick blade 12:15:19 quick blade[1/2]: (short blades; +6 acc / 5 dam / 0.7 base delay / 0.3 min delay). Ultra-fast short blade. Doesn't chop hydra heads. 0.2 min delay with haste/finesse. Quick blades cannot have the speed brand. 12:15:23 <}> yes unarmed no shield still > quickblade 12:15:30 <}> by a large margin 12:15:48 <|amethyst> trident isn't a fair comparison because of reaching 12:16:00 <}> monster damage should be added to weapon damage, so quickblade should be 37 dmg for orc warlord at 0.7 base delay 12:16:23 <|amethyst> it looks like wielding any weapon makes orc warlords less effective in arena 12:17:54 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:55 <|amethyst> but it's weird 12:18:08 <|amethyst> &f shows an orc with a triple sword doing more AvEffDam than a naked orc 12:18:22 <|amethyst> err, orc warlord 12:18:34 |amethyst: what about qblade? 12:18:36 -!- Dixlet_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:47 <}> I started testing it when someone in ##crawl asked best weapon for beogh orc warlords and the results were weird for unarmed 12:19:25 <|amethyst> elliptic: slightly higher than naked, but possibly within the margin of error 12:19:30 -!- Lawman0_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19:39 hm 12:20:23 <}> |amethyst, and you mentioned the results are completely different in 0.15? 12:20:24 I'm not at a computer where I can look into it right now but I'm worried that things might be bugged in some serious way, qw's winrate increased a lot when I switched to trunk testing locally 12:20:27 and I attributed it to implementing shopping but... 12:20:30 -!- mopl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:22:59 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:24:00 <}> |amethyst, can you test it in 0.17? I only have 0.18 12:24:05 <}> and can't recompile right now 12:24:48 -!- omarax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:24:50 -!- xczxc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:24:56 <|amethyst> in 0.17 nothing vs triple sword is pretty close 12:25:09 <|amethyst> and quick blade wins 12:25:23 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25:50 %git :/shield 12:25:50 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-116-g2d311b1: Don't make monster rod power dependent on their shield. 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 43-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d311b19f09f 12:26:23 <|amethyst> shields aren't involved 12:26:26 what 12:26:29 <|amethyst> it works the same without 12:26:45 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:51 <|amethyst> I'm looking into 12:26:52 <|amethyst> %git 2733cf4fda70315808 12:26:52 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4: Fix issues related to display of attack speed. 10(2 weeks ago, 14 files, 89+ 149-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2733cf4fda70 12:26:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:07 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:27:08 -!- omarax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:27:33 <}> |amethyst, so 0.18 changed something very seriously? 12:27:42 -!- orbekk has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 12:27:53 -!- Dixlet has quit [*.net *.split] 12:27:54 -!- PsyMar_ has quit [*.net *.split] 12:27:54 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [*.net *.split] 12:28:14 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2733cf4fda70 touched monster attack delay 12:30:35 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:30:44 !tell gammafunk i'm not against ever repositioning the player, but i don't think octopode crushers in particular did it in a very interesting way - in my experience it just meant the fight went on longer as you walked by towards them. maybe iron giants do a better job of it now, if they actually throw you into their band? in which case maybe it's better now (but it probably shouldn't use constriction) 12:30:44 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:30:44 Maximum message length is 340 characters, but you had 388. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 12:31:14 !send MarvinPA more character limits 12:31:14 Sending more character limits to MarvinPA. 12:31:15 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:31:30 "...what a character" 12:32:35 (and that was the commit I was looking for, I switched to /query when the first check wasn't it) 12:33:06 -!- nikheizen__ is now known as nikheizen 12:33:31 <|amethyst> oh, I guess all weapons make monster attacks slower than unarmed? 12:34:04 except quick blades 12:34:22 everything else has a base delay of >1 12:34:29 !tell gammafunk i'm not against ever repositioning the player, but i don't think octopode crushers did it in an interesting way - it seemed to just make fights take longer as you walked back towards them. 12:34:29 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:35:10 <|amethyst> quick blades have a delay of 7 12:35:15 -!- Culka has quit [*.net *.split] 12:35:25 <|amethyst> ohh 12:35:27 <|amethyst> haha 12:35:35 <|amethyst> - return random ? div_rand_round(10 + delay, 2) : (10 + delay) / 2; 12:35:40 <|amethyst> + return constant(10) + delay / 2; 12:35:45 <|amethyst> note the position of the division 12:36:00 nice 12:36:09 -!- Kolbur1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36:09 -!- Dixlet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36:19 please don't tell me that does what I think it does 12:36:20 heh 12:36:28 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:33 ie slow down attacks by half the weapon's base delay 12:36:41 !blame3 wheals 12:36:41 wheeeeeaaaaals 12:37:04 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:12 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:37:25 <}> I hope it gets fixed 12:37:33 !tell gammafunk maybe iron giants do a better job of it now, if they actually throw you into their band? in which case maybe it's better now (but it probably shouldn't use constriction) 12:37:34 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:37:34 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 12:37:45 -!- AnnoyedKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:36 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:38:36 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:38:45 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:39:09 so all monsters wielding weapons have had delay 5 higher than intended, good 12:40:35 -!- AnnoyedKitten has quit [Client Quit] 12:40:43 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:41:03 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:42:23 MarvinPA: I believe the throw code tries to do that, but gammafunk would know that better than I 12:42:40 <|amethyst> okay, that looks like it's back to normal 12:43:02 <|amethyst> someone should read though the player code as well (it's significantly longer) to make sure nothing happened there 12:43:50 !tell PleasingFungus I'm probably going to recalibrate the gift rate - it doesn't currently account for changes in piety gain that have happened since I first wrote that code so right now there are too mamy gifts 12:43:50 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 12:45:02 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b: Don't add an extra 5-aut delay to monster weapon attacks (bsdbeard) 10(83 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe90d9bf239e 12:45:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 247 seconds] 12:45:50 <}> |amethyst, doesn't this need to be fixed in 0.17 too? if I git checkout 0.17-b1 it's in monster.cc 12:46:23 <}> although I'm not sure if -b1 is even used 12:46:29 <|amethyst> %git 0.17-b1 12:46:30 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-b1: List the final 0.17 version in the changelog 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b0deb92d8f73 12:46:33 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:02 <|amethyst> }: ? 12:47:06 <|amethyst> }: I see the old code there 12:47:11 <|amethyst> return random ? div_rand_round(10 + delay, 2) : (10 + delay) / 2; 12:47:21 <}> 1 moment 12:47:51 yeah, it wasn't cherry-picked to 0.17 12:48:04 <}> oh I see it didnt checkout because "Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by checkout" I was still on 0.18 12:48:07 <}> sorry 12:48:11 <|amethyst> aha 12:48:29 <|amethyst> that's why I put my git branch in my prompt 12:48:29 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:30 <|amethyst> :) 12:49:11 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:49:11 +1 for git branch in your prompt 12:49:22 maybe +100 12:49:28 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:51 <}> >_< 12:49:52 god, I can't believe the devs are trying to make the game harder *again!* 12:49:56 <|amethyst> http://s-z.org/neil/config/bashrc.html search for "fancy prompt" 12:49:57 <}> lol 12:50:11 buff monster weapon attack speed? what's next? 12:50:28 well a69027b made it a lot easier 12:50:35 PleasingFungus: reduce starting HP! 12:50:53 %git a69027b 12:50:53 07elliptic02 * 0.18-a0-307-ga69027b: Let players leave the dungeon again. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a69027b76f50 12:50:57 <}> It's a christmass buff, santa gifts monsters faster weapons 12:50:57 oh yes 12:50:58 :) 12:51:21 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:52:18 see, if we had a proper unit testing system, this sort of thing wouldn't happen. 12:52:25 (players being able to leave the dungeon, that is.) 12:52:35 -!- LordSloth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:03 * geekosaur kinda needs both branch and remote repo any more >.> 12:53:19 -!- Culka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:53:45 * geekosaur pushed something to an upstream gerrit instead of a local dev repo the other day... 12:54:09 <|amethyst> hm, I was looking into making ctrl-f . and ctrl-f @foo exclude inventory 12:54:23 <|amethyst> but what if you do want to search for everything both in inventory and on the current level? 12:55:12 <|amethyst> not sure how common that would be, but I could imagine a player in Pan wanting to know "what are all the items available to me right now" 12:55:40 does anyone actually ctrl-f on pan floors? it seems odd 12:55:53 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:56:02 <}> PleasingFungus, only on floors with unique panlords 12:56:07 <}> or holy pan 12:56:16 I sometimes ctrl+f a floor after I've finished clearing it, especially if it had a loot vault (cerebov's fortress) 12:56:17 I guess...? 12:56:33 just to take a quick glance in case I missed something 12:57:09 in general that is, I don't clear pan floors 12:57:21 <|amethyst> I guess I'll go ahead and make this change, and if someone wants a way to explicitly include inventory in a current-floor search, we can add that 12:57:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:40 |amethyst: how about making "carried" match inventory? 12:57:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:57:48 so you can do || carried 12:57:52 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:57:57 I obsessively ctrl+f like every floor. I probably have a problem 12:57:58 <|amethyst> I don't think that actually works 12:58:18 oh, because . and @ are special? 12:58:20 <|amethyst> yeah 12:58:26 <|amethyst> . || cure mut matches everything 12:58:44 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:44 The build was broken. (master - df933d3 #3850 : Jesse Luehrs): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93455713 12:58:44 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:58:44 hmh, at least it would work if you type out the level name though 12:59:35 oh I guess that's the arena error that's making !fight not work, in the travis log 12:59:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:03 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:21 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-348-gf940848: add a Pakellas overflow altar vault 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 45+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9408481f7d3 13:00:21 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-349-g8139323: add a P overflow altar vault 10(10 hours ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81393231cd65 13:00:21 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-350-gb052ae5: add new P altar vault with shop 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 27+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b052ae5f9e8d 13:01:45 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-324-gf016473: Exclude inventory from current-level stash searches. 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f01647371bf2 13:01:50 <|amethyst> must go now, someone can work on adding the {carried} tag 13:04:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 247 seconds] 13:05:18 -!- kaiza has quit [Excess Flood] 13:05:24 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:32 I installed this instead of neil's fancy prompt: https://github.com/jimeh/git-aware-prompt 13:05:36 seems to work 13:07:18 -!- _sk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:08:35 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:12:00 Name of singing sword does not change when wielded 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10113 by Zooty 13:12:12 that seems to break at least once per version 13:12:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:12:47 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:13:43 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:16:30 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:19:44 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:20:08 -!- Smello_ is now known as Smello 13:20:14 -!- xczxc has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:20:27 03Medar02 07* 0.18-a0-325-g62c040f: Match items in inventory with carried and inventory keywords. 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62c040fb69ad 13:21:59 -!- molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:22:03 i blame webtiles 13:22:14 !blame3 webtiles 13:22:14 weeeeebtiiiiileeeees 13:24:19 would equipped keyword be useful ever? 13:24:52 <|amethyst> Medar: hm, does the clua bit work? 13:25:11 did in my test 13:25:13 -!- xczxc has quit [Client Quit] 13:25:17 <|amethyst> hm, so it does 13:25:19 <|amethyst> I wonder why 13:25:36 why wouldn't it? 13:25:50 <|amethyst> because the item's position is changed 13:25:59 <|amethyst> oh 13:25:59 it tests before it does that 13:26:03 <|amethyst> but that's after annotation 13:26:03 <|amethyst> yeah 13:26:06 ah 13:26:41 |amethyst: you were talking about searching for (un)identified items at some point? is there a reason why it.fully_identified wouldn't work? 13:28:16 <|amethyst> hm, my only concern there is that autopickup gets both the item_prefix and the userdef search 13:28:31 <|amethyst> oh, but the item_prefix uses fully_identified anyway it seems 13:29:58 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:31:01 <|amethyst> so yeah, the worst that happens is that it says "identified" twice 13:31:07 better fix would be to use item_prefix for stash search? 13:31:42 <|amethyst> yeah, in general I would like to unify the two 13:31:54 <|amethyst> that also means we can move stuff out of Lua more easily 13:32:31 <|amethyst> since lua is throttled and all 13:32:49 the annotation stuff does get called a lot 13:32:51 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:33:13 <|amethyst> elliptic was just reporting something about that yesterday 13:33:46 <|amethyst> I think that was autopickup functions, not the userdef annotation function 13:34:59 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:17 can someone who's familiar with wizmode make sure that current UC damage is being calculated correctly for the player? 13:35:33 it's seemed way too strong my last two games 13:35:55 |amethyst: the thing that I was complaining about was that doing ctrl-f corpse checks autopickup status of every item in the game 13:35:57 can't trust in anything 13:36:19 i'm just saying, this is how the meleebug felt to me, so i figured i should say something just in case 13:36:37 |amethyst: because doy added {autopickup} prefix 13:36:55 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:56 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:38 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:38:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:45 WalkerBoh, we just fixed that 13:39:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:02 fixed what? a bug with UC? 13:40:03 <|amethyst> geekosaur: that didn't affect players at all 13:40:05 that was about monster weapons 13:40:17 %git fe90d9b 13:40:17 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b: Don't add an extra 5-aut delay to monster weapon attacks (bsdbeard) 10(57 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe90d9bf239e 13:40:27 oh 13:41:09 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:30 I did a quick test in trunk with &F against troll, using NaMo 13:41:33 got similiar numbers 13:41:44 not sure how much that means 13:42:12 * geekosaur somehow managed to completely space on "for the player" 13:42:31 I did play two UC ghouls during tournament, accidentally used gloves, and still had super easy time. so it's not too hard to believe :P 13:42:33 * geekosaur also just did *something* to his mail by having the wrong window focused.. great day here... 13:42:52 Medar: using good gloves on a ghoul is fine 13:42:59 <|amethyst> err 13:43:06 <|amethyst> there is some kind of problem? 13:43:15 <|amethyst> I get the same AvTime on every row 13:43:24 elliptic: oh, the damage difference isn't that big? 13:43:30 <|amethyst> 93 each time 13:43:32 <|amethyst> even with UC 27 13:43:40 Medar: it is like 2 slaying or something like that iirc 13:43:54 %git g2733cf4 13:43:54 Could not find commit g2733cf4 (git returned 128) 13:44:01 yeah i just know that my last two chars i picked up UC from the start and had a really easy time 13:44:02 %git 0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4 13:44:02 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4: Fix issues related to display of attack speed. 10(2 weeks ago, 14 files, 89+ 149-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2733cf4fda70 13:44:03 I tought it was two base damage, not two slaying. 13:44:06 with 0 UC skill to start, and low str 13:44:10 no g 13:44:27 i think it's cool that ^f searches for stuff in your inventory now: it seems to improve things like ^f enchant weapon 13:44:41 Medar: yeah, they are pretty close to the same for UC though because you don't have a UC multiplier, just a fighting skill multiplier 13:44:51 btu i kinda think ^f . shouldn't include your inventory: it's used to see if there's anything on the current floor you forgot to pick up, and having to scroll through your inv first is rather inconvenient 13:45:00 elliptic: ok, makes sense, thanks 13:45:20 <|amethyst> yeah, &f doesn't seem to realise that unarmed gets faster and more damaging with skill 13:45:46 !lg walkerboh 13:45:47 2123. WalkerBoh the Sensei (L25 NaHu of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-27 18:23:45, with 1891203 points after 51113 turns and 2:54:25. 13:45:49 !lg walkerboh -2 13:45:49 2122/2123. WalkerBoh the Slayer (L26 GhCj of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-27 05:45:43, with 2057615 points after 45223 turns and 2:59:19. 13:45:59 (the Gh used PLA though) 13:46:01 I mean UC has always been strong 13:46:06 <|amethyst> it works with weapons, though 13:46:15 |amethyst: &F showed decreasing AvTime for me 13:46:32 <|amethyst> Medar: it does not for me, either in trunk or 0.17 13:46:40 yeah, there may be no bug, i just thought i'd mention it 13:46:47 in my experience UC is usually weak at the start 13:46:52 especially with low str 13:47:33 WalkerBoh: given the sorts of bugs that we've added in the last week or so, nothing would surprise me :P 13:47:37 |amethyst: I did trunk and 0.16, trying 0.17 next 13:47:37 :P 13:47:46 <|amethyst> err 13:47:49 <|amethyst> and now it froze 13:48:23 <|amethyst> oh 13:48:37 you didn't freeze time or something? 13:48:38 <|amethyst> it's asking about whether I really want to attack barehanded 13:48:46 heh 13:48:50 <|amethyst> but I didn't see the prompt because it doesn't display 13:49:02 <|amethyst> oh 13:49:31 <|amethyst> I was seeing no difference because I had javelins quivered 13:50:29 !kw meleebug2 vlong>=0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4 vlong<=0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b 13:50:29 Defined keyword: meleebug2 => vlong>=0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4 vlong<=0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b 13:50:38 <|amethyst> if I am barehanded and have nets quivered, I get 0 HP 13:50:41 <|amethyst> err 13:50:43 <|amethyst> 0 damage rather 13:51:15 haha 13:51:22 I can reproduce that 13:51:28 <|amethyst> it seems deliberate 13:51:32 <|amethyst> if ((iweap && iweap->base_type == OBJ_WEAPONS && 13:51:32 <|amethyst> is_range_weapon(*iweap)) 13:51:32 <|amethyst> || (!iweap && missile != -1)) 13:51:44 <|amethyst> but in that case it should scale throwing, not UC 13:51:57 <|amethyst> // first, ranged weapons. note: this includes 13:51:57 <|amethyst> // being empty-handed but having a missile quivered 13:52:03 <|amethyst> definitely deliberate 13:52:06 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:52:07 ah 13:52:47 so you have to drop all your missiles to use fsim on UC? that seems suboptimal 13:52:59 just Q- 13:52:59 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:53:07 Medar: that doesn't empty your quiver nowadays 13:53:08 <|amethyst> Q- doesn't work 13:53:15 it resets it 13:53:18 ohh 13:53:46 <|amethyst> could make it require you to wield the throwing weapon, but that's a little weird 13:53:52 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:54:47 what if it prompted you on which to use if you have something quivered 13:54:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:55:43 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:57:02 numbers with NaMo vs. troll are the same in 0.16, 0.17 and trunk. Tested with 3 and 20 fighting. 13:57:14 okay good, thanks for checking 13:57:28 last time i had a streak this long it was thanks to meleebug, so this time i just must be good 13:57:41 !streak walkerboh 13:57:43 walkerboh has 5 consecutive wins (MiBe, GrFi, DDGl, HOSk, TrWr; DrSk, GrMo, MfGl, DsAK, DrBe) and has won their last 4 games (MfTm, VpSu, GhCj, NaHu). 13:58:18 we'll try to kill your next character with some horrible bug 13:58:37 i can't wait 13:58:52 probably spark wasps will kill me now 13:58:55 Or some horrible feature. 13:59:01 !lg walkerboh killer~~caustic 13:59:02 2. WalkerBoh the Spry (L24 FoAs of Ru), splashed by a caustic shrike's acid on Depths:2 on 2015-08-12 04:37:45, with 417669 points after 71778 turns and 3:52:24. 13:59:06 :( 13:59:19 if i type ikiller=lasty, does that work? 13:59:23 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:29 I . . . don't like spark wasps. 13:59:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-326-g77bbef5: Scale Throwing, not UC, when throwing with &F. 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/77bbef5e1506 13:59:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-327-gb1de508: Disable confirmations in fsim. 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b1de50890682 13:59:36 WalkerBoh: I wish!! 13:59:59 still found two bugs :) 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:22 <|amethyst> elliptic: that sounds good, but somehow the info has to be passed to _equipped_skill 14:01:14 <|amethyst> WalkerBoh: well, there was the bug geekosaur pointed out that made monsters with weapons worse 14:01:18 Spark Wasps: And You Thought Orb Spiders Were Obnoxious (tm) 14:01:25 <|amethyst> WalkerBoh: but not specific to unarmed 14:01:37 yeah, come to think of it that bug probably explains early game seeming easier on your UC chars 14:01:40 |amethyst: oh i see, how much worse? 14:01:45 i didn't notice anything in my last game 14:01:48 !lg WalkerBoh won meleebug2 14:01:49 <|amethyst> WalkerBoh: an extra 0.5 delay 14:01:49 4. WalkerBoh the Sensei (L25 NaHu of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-27 18:23:45, with 1891203 points after 51113 turns and 2:54:25. 14:01:58 god damn it 14:02:02 haha 14:02:04 !lg * killer="spark wasp" 14:02:05 13. PISS the Executioner (L19 HOBe of Trog), slain by a spark wasp on Depths:1 on 2015-11-27 16:42:47, with 233343 points after 31684 turns and 1:14:05. 14:02:14 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:02:23 definitely not as significant as meleebug1 but still probably noticeably easier 14:02:30 yeah i think so 14:02:57 !lg :walkerboh meleebug|meleebug2 / won 14:02:57 18/19 games for :walkerboh (meleebug || meleebug2): N=18/19 (94.74%) 14:03:07 good times 14:03:13 <|amethyst> !lg . meleebug / won 14:03:13 1/104 games for |amethyst (meleebug): N=1/104 (0.96%) 14:03:17 <|amethyst> !lg . !meleebug / won 14:03:18 2/11536 games for |amethyst (!meleebug): N=2/11536 (0.02%) 14:03:30 <|amethyst> first meleebug made me 48 times as good 14:04:42 |amethyst: that implies that your odds of winning go up dramatically when you find a good melee weapon early in the game 14:04:57 meleebug2 at least has no effect in a lot of situations and many locations aren't really effected (e.g. spider) 14:05:03 yeah 14:05:11 but those early ogre/orc wizard/orc priest encounters 14:05:19 is it fixed now though? 14:05:26 !lm walkerboh meleebug2 14:05:28 270. [2015-11-27 18:49:22] WalkerBoh the Insei (L7 DrEn of Yredelemnul) killed Sigmund on turn 6064. (D:5) 14:05:29 <|amethyst> !lm * current meleebug2 br.enter=orc / place=orc 14:05:31 uh, fixed in master but probably not on all the servers? 14:05:32 711/711 milestones for * (current meleebug2 br.enter=orc): N=711/711 (100.00%) 14:05:35 yeah 14:05:38 <|amethyst> !lm * current meleebug2 br.enter=orc / lg:place=orc 14:05:38 &versions 14:05:41 100/711 milestones for * (current meleebug2 br.enter=orc): N=100/711 (14.06%) 14:05:45 <|amethyst> !lm * current !meleebug2 br.enter=orc / lg:place=orc 14:05:48 1553/9154 milestones for * (current !meleebug2 br.enter=orc): N=1553/9154 (16.97%) 14:05:58 CAO: 0.18-a0-322-g9a90bd9, CBRO: 0.18-a0-347-g3e42dbe, CDO: 0.18-a0-316-gf882de5, CPO: 0.18-a0-325-g62c040f, CSZO: 0.18-a0-316-gf882de5, CUE: 0.18-a0-312-g61bb5a5, CWZ: 0.18-a0-43-g402c68f, CXC: 0.18-a0-316-gf882de5, LLD: 0.18-a0-48-g06172c4 14:05:59 !kw meleebug2 14:06:00 Keyword: meleebug2 => vlong>=0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4 vlong<=0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b 14:06:09 so only CPO has the fix currently 14:06:14 maybe we should rebuild the others? 14:06:31 oh, that second <= should be < 14:06:44 !kw meleebug2 vlong>=0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4 vlong<0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b 14:06:44 Defined keyword: meleebug2 => vlong>=0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4 vlong<0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b 14:06:45 <|amethyst> hmm, my !lm doesn't seem right 14:06:50 %git 2733cf4 14:06:50 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4: Fix issues related to display of attack speed. 10(2 weeks ago, 14 files, 89+ 149-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2733cf4fda70 14:06:51 <|amethyst> !lg * current 14:06:53 128960. GriffonMage the Insei (L5 NaMo), slain by an orc wizard (a +0 dagger) on D:3 on 2015-11-27 19:06:18, with 217 points after 2589 turns and 0:12:04. 14:06:54 <|amethyst> !lg * current meleebug2 14:06:55 6453. Gressup the Slasher (L2 HEBe of Trog), slain by a gnoll (a +0 spear) on D:2 on 2015-11-27 19:05:11, with 23 points after 1243 turns and 0:01:35. 14:06:56 <|amethyst> !lg * current !meleebug2 14:06:57 %git fe90d9b 14:06:57 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b: Don't add an extra 5-aut delay to monster weapon attacks (bsdbeard) 10(83 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe90d9bf239e 14:06:58 122507. GriffonMage the Insei (L5 NaMo), slain by an orc wizard (a +0 dagger) on D:3 on 2015-11-27 19:06:18, with 217 points after 2589 turns and 0:12:04. 14:07:09 !kw current 14:07:09 Keyword: current => cv>=0.17 14:07:12 <|amethyst> ohh 14:07:14 <|amethyst> right 14:07:19 <|amethyst> !lg * current trunk meleebug2 14:07:20 6301. Gressup the Slasher (L2 HEBe of Trog), slain by a gnoll (a +0 spear) on D:2 on 2015-11-27 19:05:11, with 23 points after 1243 turns and 0:01:35. 14:07:22 <|amethyst> !lg * current trunk !meleebug2 14:07:24 25482. rmfkf the Skirmisher (L3 DsBe of Trog), quit the game on D:2 on 2015-11-27 18:52:25, with 62 points after 636 turns and 0:00:59. 14:07:48 <|amethyst> !lg * current trunk !meleebug2 1 14:07:53 1/25482. vev the Shield-Bearer (L4 DDFi), slain by a black bear on D:3 on 2015-10-29 23:06:00, with 123 points after 1215 turns and 0:04:18. 14:07:56 <|amethyst> !lg * current trunk !meleebug2 1 x=cv,v,vlong 14:08:00 1/25482. [cv=0.18-a;v=0.18.0-a0;vlong=0.18-a0] vev the Shield-Bearer (L4 DDFi), slain by a black bear on D:3 on 2015-10-29 23:06:00, with 123 points after 1215 turns and 0:04:18. 14:08:01 !lg * current trunk s=src 14:08:05 31783 games for * (current trunk): 11886x cwz, 5233x cao, 5026x cszo, 2764x cue, 2221x cxc, 2214x cbro, 1120x cpo, 814x lld, 505x cdo 14:08:05 <|amethyst> !lg * current trunk !meleebug2 x=cv,v,vlong 14:08:07 25482. [cv=0.18-a;v=0.18.0-a0;vlong=0.18-a0-43-g402c68f] rmfkf the Skirmisher (L3 DsBe of Trog), quit the game on D:2 on 2015-11-27 18:52:25, with 62 points after 636 turns and 0:00:59. 14:08:29 |amethyst: some servers never got the bug in the first place 14:08:34 <|amethyst> elliptic: yeah, but 14:08:46 <|amethyst> elliptic: four times as many games without as with meleebug2? 14:08:56 |amethyst: look at my last query 14:09:01 none of those CWZ games have the bug 14:09:07 <|amethyst> oh 14:09:16 <|amethyst> I had not realized cwz was now the most popular server 14:09:22 !lg * current trunk !boring s=src 14:09:26 27488 games for * (current trunk !boring): 9589x cwz, 4782x cao, 4475x cszo, 2588x cue, 2053x cbro, 1974x cxc, 841x cpo, 701x lld, 485x cdo 14:09:28 hm 14:09:36 !lg * current trunk cwz 1 14:09:39 <|amethyst> !lg * current !boring s=src 14:09:41 1/11886. Mudsilo the Chucker (L3 TrHu), slain by Sigmund (a +0 scythe) on D:2 on 2015-10-30 21:48:55, with 34 points after 678 turns and 0:01:59. 14:09:47 117403 games for * (current !boring): 35560x cszo, 28214x cao, 17373x cbro, 10099x cxc, 10076x cue, 9589x cwz, 2834x cpo, 2057x lld, 1601x cdo 14:09:52 <|amethyst> oh, I guess it's not 14:09:58 !lg * current trunk cwz 1 x=v 14:10:02 1/11886. [v=0.18.0-a0] Mudsilo the Chucker (L3 TrHu), slain by Sigmund (a +0 scythe) on D:2 on 2015-10-30 21:48:55, with 34 points after 678 turns and 0:01:59. 14:10:07 <|amethyst> I guess people aren't playing trunk on cszo etc 14:10:19 !lg * t current trunk 14:10:20 No games for * (t current trunk). 14:10:21 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo current / trunk 14:10:21 good 14:10:26 5027/38463 games for * (cszo current): N=5027/38463 (13.07%) 14:10:26 |amethyst: yeah I guess 14:10:32 <|amethyst> !lg * cao current / trunk 14:10:37 5233/31420 games for * (cao current): N=5233/31420 (16.65%) 14:10:39 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo 0.16 / trunk 14:10:44 0/49861 games for * (cszo 0.16): N=0/49861 (0.00%) 14:10:52 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo v~~0.16 / trunk 14:10:54 107229/157562 games for * (cszo v~~0.16): N=107229/157562 (68.06%) 14:10:58 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo v~~0.17 / trunk 14:11:01 150219/183655 games for * (cszo v~~0.17): N=150219/183655 (81.79%) 14:11:04 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo v~~0.18 / trunk 14:11:05 5027/5027 games for * (cszo v~~0.18): N=5027/5027 (100.00%) 14:11:27 <|amethyst> I guess it's because I didn't restart webtiles after the tournament 14:11:31 <|amethyst> so 0.17 is listed first 14:11:48 <|amethyst> !lg * current s=src / trun 14:11:48 No keyword 'trun' 14:11:49 <|amethyst> !lg * current s=src / trunk 14:11:54 31788/128972 games for * (current): 11886/11886x cwz [100.00%], 5234/31422x cao [16.66%], 5027/38466x cszo [13.07%], 2764/10573x cue [26.14%], 2223/10711x cxc [20.75%], 2214/18619x cbro [11.89%], 1120/3252x cpo [34.44%], 814/2330x lld [34.94%], 506/1713x cdo [29.54%] 14:12:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:02 anyway I'm going to rebuild some servers 14:12:04 ??rebuild 14:12:04 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 14:12:50 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 14:13:07 okay, those 5 now rebuilding trunk 14:13:49 I guess the cbro experimental branches probably have the bug too, I don't know if it is serious enough for Grunt or someone to want to fix that 14:14:20 entice testing with easy wins 14:14:33 mm 14:15:58 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-327-gb1de508 (34) 14:15:59 I'll merge master into / rebuild when I get home 14:17:23 phew good thing i made it to lair before the rebuild 14:17:35 streak's already tainted, might as well go full on 14:20:41 you and your meleebug streaks... 14:20:58 it's not my fault that all i do is win when the game is a bit easier 14:21:12 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:21:59 Proof that crawl is normally the exact right difficulty 14:22:36 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.18-a0-327-gb1de508 (34) 14:22:52 CUE wins again 14:22:58 oh no it didn't 14:23:06 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-327-gb1de508 (34) 14:23:20 but CAO was rebuilt only few commits earlier 14:24:15 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-327-gb1de508 (34) 14:25:13 and CXC will probably finish at some point too :P 14:28:59 <+amalloy> btu i kinda think ^f . shouldn't include your inventory: it's used to see if there's anything on the current floor you forgot to pick up, and having to scroll through your inv first is rather inconvenient <- i think |amethyst was going to work on this? 14:29:48 %git f01647371b 14:29:48 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-324-gf016473: Exclude inventory from current-level stash searches. 10(88 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f01647371bf2 14:30:21 that lets you search for @. to do that I think (or maybe just @?) 14:30:37 <|amethyst> ctrl-f . 14:30:43 <|amethyst> sets the same flag 14:30:48 oh, . also, right 14:31:11 I forgot how I implemented @ :P 14:31:46 <|amethyst> if you do want to include inventory, you need inventory || {D:1} 14:31:53 <|amethyst> where D:1 is your current level 14:32:20 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:34 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:12 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:33:21 am I right to assume J's off-level eating involves disk io? it's noticably laggy on CXC 14:33:36 -!- ScrapMettle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:34:23 <|amethyst> Medar: yes, it has to load the other level, modify it, save it, and re-load the current level 14:34:45 <|amethyst> also, it might need to do that on several different levels 14:35:29 <|amethyst> if it doesn't find an item on the first level it tries 14:35:31 ok, guess that's also the reason why changing levels is a bit slow 14:37:58 <|amethyst> yeah, saving the previous level requires a fdatasync at least 14:38:25 wonder if any server is using ssd(s) 14:38:48 <|amethyst> doubtful given the amount of space needed 14:38:53 -!- Mandevil1splat is now known as Mandevil\splat 14:39:06 <|amethyst> though it would make sense to put /chroot/crawl-master on SSD 14:39:21 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:39:43 <|amethyst> since the big files go into /chroot/dgldir (ttyrecs) or /chroot/usr/games (binaries) 14:39:51 https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc 14:40:03 that's what CXC runs on, they now have 120GB SSD for the same price 14:40:45 without ttyrecs that might last a while 14:41:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:42:08 or maybe not 14:46:24 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-327-gb1de508 (34) 14:47:21 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:52:18 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:53:00 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:54:18 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:41 hey guys, are weapons still str or dex based? 14:55:40 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:41 The build has errored. (master - 61bb5a5 #3853 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93458928 14:55:41 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:59:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:11 Napkin: I don't remember that being changed 15:01:47 the info about whether str or dex mattered was shown in the weapon description.. and often mentioned in learndb 15:01:54 but can't find any references anymore 15:02:06 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:02:10 <|amethyst> I'm trying to find when that was removed from xv 15:02:17 <|amethyst> it's still there, and still just as important as before 15:02:25 <|amethyst> but that was considered not important enough to document 15:02:37 !lg . meleebug2 won 15:02:38 No games for gammafunk (meleebug2 won). 15:02:39 <|amethyst> IMO if it's not important enough to tell the player it's not important enough to exist 15:03:01 <|amethyst> that change is explicitly in the direction of "require spoilers" 15:03:06 well, my wife just asked about slings.. and i couldn't find the answer anymore.. i think it was strength 15:03:37 <|amethyst> slings are now dex-weighted it appears 15:03:43 |amethyst: yeah, just fixing every weapon at the same str weight (probably 7 or so is average) would be an improvement and not change much 15:03:43 <|amethyst> 1/10 15:04:11 -!- molotove2 is now known as molotove 15:04:18 <|amethyst> crossbows are more str-weighted than bows 15:04:21 <|amethyst> which makes no sense 15:04:21 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 15:04:29 the str weights never made sense 15:04:31 <|amethyst> I guess the idea is that you have to hold the crossbow level 15:04:34 most weapons have high str weights though 15:05:05 <|amethyst> that's mostly because there are more maces than anything else 15:05:16 could also have few different numbers, like one-handed, two-handed and ranged 15:05:19 <|amethyst> not a single long blade is over 5/10 15:05:22 maybe just add a description line saying dex is more important for this weapon that str - to the few weapons left 15:05:28 Medar: yeah 15:05:49 Napkin: the thing is that str still improves damage by more than dex does even if you are "dex-weighted" 15:06:09 oh? what does dex-weighted mean then? 15:06:35 |amethyst: crossbows being str-weighted at all makes no sense 15:06:42 that it matters at all? 15:06:43 er -- stat-weighte 15:06:45 d 15:06:49 <|amethyst> for damage, str weight 10 means "use only strength" and str weight 0 means "use (str+dex)/2" 15:06:52 fr: can't use crossbows below x str 15:07:06 <|amethyst> for to-hit it's "use (str+dex)/2" vs "use only dex" 15:07:43 |amethyst: I didn't know that about long blades, maybe the average is closer to 5 15:07:49 5 makes the formulas nicer anyway :P 15:08:09 <|amethyst> elliptic: why not use pure str for damage, pure dex for to-hit? 15:08:18 I also think it would be fine just have str affect damage and dex affect accuracy, but that's a somewhat bigger change 15:08:19 rip spriggans 15:08:19 CanOfWorms: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:08:21 |amethyst: sounds good to me 15:09:27 wouldn't dex favoring chars do much reduced damage then? 15:10:28 <|amethyst> it might require upping short blade damage? 15:10:43 I don't think it would be that significant 15:10:55 Crash at main menu on pressing Tab to repeat hints mode game 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10114 by DraconicPenguin 15:10:56 a lot of short blade damage comes from the enchantment/ego/stabbing anyway 15:11:54 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:12:17 and most characters actually have str and dex pretty close 15:15:27 -!- Porost has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 15:17:23 <|amethyst> oh hey 15:17:58 <|amethyst> after fixing #10114, I can edit my .prf file to start a hints mode game with any race/class combo I want 15:21:13 hey, if it's how someone wants to spend their time 15:21:42 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:26:12 runrest_ignore_message not working for "Your transformation has ended" 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10115 by kurzedmetal 15:29:32 -!- Tilogour has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:31:30 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:32:12 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:36:26 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:36:31 <|amethyst> well, the real problem is that tab from the opening screen will ask you to choose one of the three chars, then ignore it and go with whatever you had in the last game 15:36:46 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:41 I got a stupid death (drowned). I had the ability to evoke flight... I wonder the game should stop you. 15:38:58 I mean it stops you when you are starving and you have food. 15:39:12 it does 15:39:19 unless you mean like moving? 15:39:23 manually 15:39:53 <|amethyst> did your flight run out over water? 15:40:16 I was fighting over water while on flight. 15:40:29 <|amethyst> flying with a ring, boots, or potion? 15:40:47 ring 15:40:58 I had potions too 15:41:11 <|amethyst> evoking the ring wouldn't have helped 15:41:16 <|amethyst> a potion would 15:42:33 yeah... I assumed the ring worked like the boots, don't ask me why 15:42:48 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:42:49 <|amethyst> you should have gotten "Careful! You are starting to lose your buoyancy." 15:43:17 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 15:43:23 probably it was there... but when fighting monsters I tend to lose mesages 15:43:34 I guess its my fault on myany levels 15:44:32 <|amethyst> I guess tab could refuse to work when you have expiring flight and are over a feature that will kill you 15:44:39 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:06 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:11 <|amethyst> seems comparable from tab refusing to work when you are at low HP, or when starving as you said 15:45:13 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:45:15 <|amethyst> s/from/to/ 15:46:33 New branch created: pull/189 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/189 15:46:33 03Sandman25DCSS02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/189 * 0.18-a0-328-g6eedaca: Update ability.cc 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6eedaca400da 15:46:35 -!- onmyo is now known as dark_star 15:47:18 the sandman returns... 15:47:44 dun dun duuuuuun 15:47:54 will you be streaming tonight, gammafunk? :o 15:48:18 ye 15:48:32 streaming....perhaps....banning twitch chatters...who can say 15:48:36 <|amethyst> I should see what the big deal is about this "streaming" 15:48:53 no profs allowed! 15:48:56 <|amethyst> I had always thought it was youth slang for pissing on a homeless person on camera 15:48:58 it's for students only 15:49:12 I'm sure there is stream for that too 15:50:23 I think you're thinking of golden showers, |amethyst 15:51:40 Supporting abilities for confirm_action 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10116 by Sandman25 15:51:44 haha 15:52:02 i don't think that's limited to homeless people strictly 15:52:22 expert on the subject? 15:52:30 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:52:59 <|amethyst> I was under the impression that "golden showers" implied a level of consent that might be lacking in the other case 15:53:19 probably also that 15:53:41 <|amethyst> Err, I mean, that's why my informants in the youth culture tell me 15:53:46 <|amethyst> s/why/what/ 15:56:08 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:58:19 -!- Shados has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:35 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:02:18 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:04:37 FR: you can't get corroded in wisp form 16:04:47 because that's such a common occurrence 16:04:58 i know everyone will thank me for mentioning it 16:07:31 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:39 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:12:48 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:15:59 -!- Sorbius_ is now known as Sorbius 16:22:17 insubstantial wisp (15v) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 17-23 | AC/EV: 4/18 | Dam: 1206(blink self) | 11non-living, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 162 | Sp: blink [06!sil], static discharge [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 16:22:17 %??insubstantial wisp 16:22:24 no racid 16:23:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:23:02 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24:05 !source form-data.h:185 16:24:06 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/form-data.h#l185 16:24:09 form has rAcid 16:32:26 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:35:29 Don't Whizz On the Insubstantial Wisp! 16:37:21 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:41:14 03Medar02 07* 0.18-a0-328-gbfe2a8b: Fix seal rune casting message being duplicated. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bfe2a8ba83f1 16:41:14 03Medar02 07* 0.18-a0-329-g5b4d444: Make sure seal doors usability check does nothing. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b4d444563e7 16:42:48 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:45:40 -!- kd99 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:47:48 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:52:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:53:17 <|amethyst> Lasty: hm... what is this supposed to do (in tags.cc): you.sacrifice_piety[j] = you.sacrifice_piety[j] ? you.sacrifice_piety[j] : 0; 16:53:24 <|amethyst> because it looks like it does nothing 16:54:44 <|amethyst> also, I'm not sure we really need to be marhsalling 1502 bytes for ru sacrifice piety 16:55:11 <|amethyst> but I guess it's too late to do anything about that 16:55:14 |amethyst: the intention was to set it equal to 0 if it's not initialized 16:55:35 |amethyst: . . . er, hmm. Well, for my reference, how would you prefer to have done that/ 16:55:51 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 16:55:53 <|amethyst> that sets it to zero if it was zero, or to its current value if not 16:56:09 |amethyst: so it couldn't have been null or something 16:56:24 I'm used to PHP, where that would conceivably do something 16:56:26 <|amethyst> it's a uint8_t 16:56:36 <|amethyst> only pointers can be null 16:56:39 <|amethyst> also 16:56:44 ah 16:56:48 <|amethyst> you set all those to zero in the previous loop 16:57:08 . . . oh, huh. 16:57:12 Bad job, me. 16:57:26 But re: marshalling, how would you have stored the data ideally? 16:58:03 Lasty: PHP?! 16:58:23 gammafunk: that's what we use at my work 16:58:30 It's for a web stack 16:58:41 We demand you convert your stack to C++ 16:58:56 The ideal web platform 16:58:57 glad to find out that hydras that have been turned to stone still regrow heads normally 16:58:57 I'll do it tomorrowwwwww 16:58:57 ww-keys deactivated 16:59:24 I don't think I've really written any php 16:59:34 I hear the language is better than it was 16:59:45 it is 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:11 the upcoming version is supposed to be significantly better 17:00:16 <|amethyst> Lasty: probably for (int j = ABIL_FIRST_SACRIFICE; j <= ABIL_FINAL_SACRIFICE; j++) 17:00:24 better than perl 6? 17:00:38 <|amethyst> Lasty: hm, but I guess even that needs some additional stuff 17:00:46 <|amethyst> Lasty: namely, the number of abilities can change 17:01:06 <|amethyst> Lasty: so you really should first marshall how many things you're going to marshall 17:01:55 <|amethyst> then when unmarshalling, if there are not enough initialize the rest to zero; and if there are too many skip the rest 17:02:36 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:03:00 |amethyst: ah, yeah, that would be much better. I considered something similar, but I have the stupids this week and I didn't think about how to do it well. 17:03:26 <|amethyst> save compat code (for saves transferred from the current version) will need to hard code OLD_NUM_ABILITIES = 1503 (its current value) 17:05:00 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:01 The build passed. (master - 5843ff9 #3856 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93460895 17:05:01 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:05:40 <|amethyst> doy: hm, would you rather docs/develop/keys.txt use spaces rather than tabs, or add an exception in checkwhite? 17:06:10 |amethyst: is there a way to unwind the extra storage without breaking save compatability? 17:06:21 <|amethyst> with a new tag 17:06:27 <|amethyst> a new tag is necessary anyway 17:06:39 gotcha 17:06:45 <|amethyst> so that things don't break when someone adds a new ability 17:07:17 <|amethyst> well, a new ability at the end 17:07:32 <|amethyst> which would be a godly but not god-specific ability 17:07:49 haha 17:07:58 <|amethyst> (there are currently three) 17:11:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:12:51 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:19:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22:06 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:24:03 oo 17:24:08 argh 17:24:10 nm 17:24:12 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:31:54 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:32:05 -!- angelichorsey has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:18 -!- ZugAddict has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:01 -!- fazisi_ is now known as fazisi 17:40:25 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:41:13 |amethyst: does FixedVector sacrifice_piety; populate each index in the array with 0s? 17:42:48 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:43:29 From context in tags.cc, I was assuming that wasn't true. 17:46:01 e.g.: for (int j = count; j < NUM_MUTATIONS; ++j) you.mutation[j] = you.innate_mutation[j] = you.sacrifices[j]; 17:46:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:51 <|amethyst> Lasty: depends on whether it appears in global (static storage duration) data 17:51:08 <|amethyst> Lasty: but I wouldn't rely on that 17:51:20 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:53 hrm 17:52:01 constant(10)? 17:52:26 !function constant 17:52:26 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/random-var.cc#l132 17:52:29 <|amethyst> same as random_var(10), no idea why 17:52:36 <|amethyst> why both exist, that is 17:53:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:53:01 |amethyst: what would it be if it wasn't 0? 17:53:18 <|amethyst> Lasty: anything 17:53:23 ah, heh 17:53:27 just whatever was already in memry 17:53:28 <|amethyst> Lasty: uninitialized means exactly that in C++ 17:53:29 memory 17:53:31 <|amethyst> yeah 17:53:35 gawt it 17:53:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: just 10 + rvar would convert the rvar to an int (by rolling it) and add 10 to that 17:54:20 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:21 The build passed. (master - 2181443 #3858 : Jesse Luehrs): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93462122 17:54:21 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:54:26 <|amethyst> gammafunk: because there's only an operator+ for two random_vars, not a random_var and an int or vice versa 17:54:39 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:54:43 yeah, I was basically unaware of random_var 17:54:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I am not really happy with that operator int() because IMO it makes it too easy to misuse 17:54:48 or had thought we didn't really use them 17:55:07 <|amethyst> e.g. it means you *can* write 10 + rvar but it does something different from constant(10) + rvar 17:55:57 so the whole point of random_var is to have a chain of stochastic operations and only get the result at the end? 17:56:08 <|amethyst> yeah 17:56:57 <|amethyst> stored as a histogram it looks like 17:58:51 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:17 Grunt: I forgot if I said this already, but I'll start working on some P overflows after I stream 18:01:18 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.18-a0-329-g5b4d444 (34) 18:01:46 gammafunk: did you take a look at the ones I did? 18:01:56 <|amethyst> See, "streaming" *does* have something to do with urination, I knew I was onto something 18:01:57 I don't look at purile GARBAGE!!! 18:01:59 -!- } has quit [] 18:02:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:02:05 sorry, that was an overreaction 18:02:18 johnstein: but seriously, no, do you have a link? 18:02:19 or perhaps the correct reaction 18:02:38 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 18:03:15 -!- ketsa has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 18:04:08 http://i.imgur.com/j09w3tY.png but I dialed the blood down. I don't want to get in trouble for using too much. 18:04:19 w:30 to like w:80 18:05:54 johnstein: for the live K, I'd maybe just give it normal charges 18:06:05 <|amethyst> Lasty: about to push something 18:06:08 at least for the wands you're giving it 18:06:14 gammafunk: the single charge was grunt's suggestion 18:06:20 hrm, figures 18:06:24 Grunt is insane 18:06:44 those 0-charge wands are not ided either, are they 18:06:44 well, his point was that even a wand with 0 charges is pretty powerful for pak 18:06:53 they are not. should they be? 18:06:55 ah, that is true...but 18:06:56 well 18:07:11 I mean powerful for pak at like 1*..sort of 18:07:23 currently low evo/piety P doesn't do a lot with charge 18:07:27 you'll get like 1 charge 18:07:33 but later on I guess they are a bit more so 18:07:34 that's not many charges 18:07:53 yeah I mean, tbf they come with a ton of charges 18:07:53 original version had an avg of 2 wands per instance 18:07:53 if they're fully charged 18:08:00 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:12 I'm super proud of my lua 18:08:16 and it'd be weird to like set some lower number of charges, so i guess 1 is fine 18:08:38 gammafunk: I picked 1 in the event that this appears early 18:08:38 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:08:39 I guess I don't see the need to adjust those charges based on P or not 18:08:54 Grunt: well, other overflows give wands and appear early 18:09:02 but it's a minor point anyhow 18:09:05 I have another overflow vault which also does this 18:09:16 (old lua was kinda ugly http://i.imgur.com/SdNSLnN.png) 18:09:17 I'm thinking of that like, veh altar 18:09:19 that has a wand 18:09:32 that is: the vault I meant 18:09:35 :) 18:09:41 yeah but it's not one charge, right? 18:09:43 !vault veh_altar 18:09:44 Can't find veh_altar. 18:09:49 !vault veh_altar.des 18:09:50 Can't find veh_altar.des. 18:10:06 !source dat/des/altars/overflow.des 18:10:07 Can't find dat/des/altars/overflow.des. 18:10:11 rip 18:10:13 I'll look for it when I get home 18:10:26 !source dat/des/altar/overflow.des 18:10:27 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des 18:10:28 I mean low-tier wands are dangerous but not terribly so, they generate in the dungeon, with ijyb, etc, but yeah if you like it 18:10:35 to have one charge, then one charge it shall be 18:10:55 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:56 I wasn't sure how smart it was to have the shop be greed:2000 18:11:22 I don't know how much I need to worry about an earlyish gadget shop with Cool Stuff for sale 18:11:50 man, I read that as "english gadget shop" 18:11:56 started to wonder what that would mean 18:12:09 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:12:50 <|amethyst> that's where you buy Acorn computers, right? 18:16:36 johnstein: I think mixing 0-charge wands with misc is maybe a bit awkward 18:16:48 esp given that you're trying to interact that with greed 18:16:51 -!- st_ has quit [] 18:17:46 imo no shops unless it is a G altar 18:17:52 gammafunk: it felt tricky. trying to balance what Grunt suggested for the other vault with something that would feel interesting for the players seeing a gadget shop 18:18:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-330-g7cf50c4: Write hints mode to ng-start.prf (#10115) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7cf50c46ab70 18:18:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-331-gaba80f3: Ignore .prf char choice when tab-selecting hints/tutorial. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aba80f3ae684 18:18:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-332-gc823a84: Adjust sacrifice_piety marshalling. 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 38+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c823a84c3ec0 18:18:06 what were Grunt's reccomendations? 18:18:19 *recommendations 18:18:23 the lower number of charges mainly 18:18:36 well the thing is players have to buy these wands 18:18:40 these aren't being handed out 18:18:54 also I see I was thinking of two different vaults when I made that comment 18:18:54 <|amethyst> Lasty: probably those two top branches could have been merged, but I didn't want to change the old code more than necessary 18:18:58 I guess we actually don't have a lot of overflows that place shops 18:19:11 (the wand charges) 18:19:11 Grunt: yea, I was extrapolating wildly for sure 18:19:15 <|amethyst> gah 18:19:23 <|amethyst> that was the wrong bug number, should have been 10114 18:19:24 there's zin's purifications station, gozag does have some I guess 18:19:38 there's a zin shop but yeah i would also say that probably it shouldn't be a thing that is any more common really 18:19:38 the actual reason I set a wand to one charge was: an imp has it 18:19:39 yea. I saw those two 18:19:54 a blinking enemy w/ a wand is more dangerous than a g/K 18:20:00 yeah 18:20:04 to both Grunt and MPA 18:20:53 I mean, maybe we can have one for P, but maybe it should likewise be really conservative 18:21:01 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:21:22 so maybe just an expensive shop with a small number of empty wands only 18:21:26 really conservative via low level? low charges? high cost? 18:21:27 |amethyst: I guess you could add comment to the github commit page about that, not that it matters much 18:21:29 which that shop mostly is, aside from misc 18:21:49 mm I had an idea for a set of P oveflows just now 18:21:57 will crank those out when I get home 18:22:06 <|amethyst> Medar: who looks at that? 18:22:12 johnstein: probably weighted towards weaker wands like you have, smaller chance of the higher tier ones, only a few wands in the shop 18:22:15 <|amethyst> Medar: I mean, for things that aren't PRs anyway 18:22:19 so I think basically what you already have sans the misc 18:22:22 well if someone does %git later 18:22:26 but probably nobody 18:22:33 w:200 for the 3 boring wands. then w:5 for any wand. 18:22:45 <|amethyst> I guess that's a good point 18:22:57 <|amethyst> I forgot that we link to the github pages right here :) 18:23:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:23:02 johnstein: yeah you don't need to have random effects listed seperately, probably 18:23:16 I mean it can be weight 10 for any wand 18:23:16 ok. I'll yank that one and nix the misc 18:23:25 that's still way less common than the others with 200 each 18:23:45 200 is actually kind of too high, I'm sure 18:23:56 what's a reasonable value you think? 18:23:57 1/60 for any other kind of wand is a bit extreme 18:24:09 since only three 18:24:13 like even 1/10 is fine 18:24:18 so like every few times you see it 18:24:30 it'll have an expensive wand that's not flame/frost/mdart 18:24:34 ok. I'll dial that down too 18:24:38 obviously you need an overflow altar with a bunch of elementals trapped in a room with elemental evokers 18:24:48 inaccessible, of course 18:24:59 CanOfWorms: I think there's already a vault like that 18:25:19 I think it's a qaz vault 18:25:42 What are the P themes we're to work with 18:25:49 gammafunk: any tips on the greed level? 2000 felt wrong. but using values that I saw in other vaults made the wands kinda cheap 18:26:01 johnstein: yeah I don't really know, you'd have to place the shop and look at the prices 18:26:04 like see zin's station 18:26:14 that one has like 92 gold cure pots 18:26:15 making me almost think that sure, the low quality ones can be 0 charges, but maybe the any wand can be regular, to boost the price up 18:27:01 gammafunk: ok. that's what I was doing before and couldn't quite divine the algorithm. I'll screw around with it some more. 18:27:09 a small room with a rakshasa trapped with a mirror 18:27:14 I mean, the player is going to find this with like 200 gold at max or so 18:27:50 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:07 What are the P themes I should work with? It seems the "places a wand or shop" is well covered, so mine would be more just decorative 18:29:50 ??p 18:29:50 p[1/3]: p (p)rays to your current god (or spews a flavour message about thinking about the meaning of life if you don't have one; this doesn't waste any time), P (P)uts on jewelry. p is a human (see p[2]). P is an immobile Plant-type monster (see P[3]). 18:29:51 I'll probably go for "vaguely magical" 18:29:59 !lg PISS 18:29:59 2312. PISS the Chopper (L3 MiGl), slain by a hobgoblin (a +0 club) on D:2 on 2015-11-27 23:21:54, with 60 points after 954 turns and 0:00:51. 18:30:04 !gamesby PISS 18:30:05 PISS has played 2312 games, between 2012-09-14 15:46:44 and 2015-11-27 23:21:54, won 0, high score 383096, total score 7064720, total turns 7859572, play-time/day 0:17:08, total time 13d+22:12:30. 18:30:11 wow, never won a game 18:30:54 gammafunk (et al): the preferred way to update a pull request is to : git push -f remote branch, right? 18:31:00 ??pakellas 18:31:00 pakellas[1/1]: Pakellas the Inventive, god of devices; currently in an experimental branch on CBRO. Blocks MP regeneration and hates channeling; instead you get access to MP on kills, {quick charge}, {drain magic}, {device surge}, {sap magic}, and gifts of evokables. At 6*, you also get a one-off {supercharge} of a wand or rod. 18:31:04 (that's what I've been doing) 18:31:24 johnstein: well, the -f is only if you had to do a rebase, but yeah 18:31:28 Grunt: i hope pakellas branch includes handling for the lugonu bribe altar 18:31:34 the most important feature of any new god 18:31:35 if you're just making a commit you don't need -f 18:31:44 gammafunk: I've been rebasing on top of evoker-god-rebase before pushing 18:32:22 gammafunk: wasn't sure if I should be trying to keep the number of commits down. 18:32:33 johnstein: yeah, it's just important for you to understand what the -f is doing; if you simply make a commit that's new (you don't do any rebasing that changes commits already pushed) you just push without -f 18:32:34 (not sure how neat and tidy pull requests should be) 18:32:50 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:51 The build passed. (master - f882de5 #3859 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93462187 18:32:51 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:32:56 but yeah it's ok to do that 18:32:58 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:37 if something really is in addition to previous commits, then prefer to just make a new commit rather than rebase it in 18:34:20 MarvinPA: it does! but the idea there is obsolete now 18:34:32 and I just had a much better idea 18:34:42 what's your idea 18:34:45 lugonu bribe altar? 18:34:54 !vault lugonu_bribe 18:34:54 Can't find lugonu_bribe. 18:35:00 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:35:02 nicolae-: my idea is just lots and lots of orbs of fire, all the time 18:35:14 !source dat/des/altar/lugonu_bribe.des 18:35:15 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/lugonu_bribe.des 18:35:25 gammafunk: well... sounds good to me 18:35:27 Grunt: presumably it could just give channeling items 18:35:30 if it didn't already 18:35:56 MarvinPA: I think it does but can also give: a spellbook 18:36:07 i thought pakellas didn't hate magic anymore 18:36:12 oh, that altar 18:36:21 I had no idea that the gifts were based on that 18:37:21 yeah i think the theme is "here's something your god hates to remind you that you god sucks ass compared to me, lugonu" 18:37:39 wth it is *just* a spellbook 18:37:47 todo fix that 18:37:49 haha suckers I worship sif, who hates no items 18:37:59 I mean she hates if you destroy spellbooks, but w/e 18:38:17 an item that requires destroying a spellbook to use ity 18:38:29 Grunt: but for decor I can mostly go to town with "vaguely magical or implying something about machines" 18:38:34 ? 18:38:40 the latter might be hard to achieve 18:38:47 I could place golems, I guess 18:38:52 who is the most permissive God? 18:38:57 are you thinking about pak overflow altars? 18:38:59 mak 18:39:01 xom 18:39:08 can you even anger mak? 18:39:09 the dread god NO_GOD 18:39:10 veh is also 18:39:20 gammafunk: think: 18:39:27 sciencd and technology 18:39:29 :) 18:39:37 *science 18:39:44 yeah, that's what "vaguely magical" will have to be I guess 18:39:54 since science isn't well represented in crawl 18:39:57 Industry, science, and technology! Big men putting screwdrivers into things, turning them, and adjusting them! 18:40:05 sufficiently advanced science........ 18:40:11 MAGIC! 18:40:30 coupla lightning spires, maybe 18:40:36 P is basically: god of engineering 18:40:46 nicolae-: get to work imo 18:40:49 :b 18:40:51 ah, of course 18:41:00 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:41:07 so you want an overflow vault where the altar has been shoved in a locker 18:41:15 haha 18:41:15 Grunt: i'm already thinking about it 18:41:43 @??ogre name:angry_jock perm_ench:berserk 18:41:45 anyway home soonish 18:41:58 angry jock (07O) | Spd: 15 | HD: 5 | HP: 29-57 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Dam: 25 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 118 | Sz: Large | Int: human. 18:41:58 %??ogre name:angry_jock perm_ench:berserk 18:42:04 @??ogre mage name:nerd n_rpl 18:42:10 <.< 18:42:11 rip 18:42:52 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:33 ah, so glad to removed shard shrikes AND torpor snails! 18:43:47 finally crawl is whole again 18:45:04 huh? 18:45:04 torpor snails are gone? 18:45:41 geeze ProzacElf, way to ruin the prank on PleasingFungus 18:45:43 and pleasing fungi! 18:45:45 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 254 seconds] 18:45:57 gammafunk: see, here I was thinking we could turn it into a prank on ProzacElf 18:46:01 ...though not a very good one 18:46:09 hey, maybe that would have worked 18:46:19 i guess we'll never know 18:46:39 heh 18:47:37 -!- Culka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:47:38 -!- Rjs has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:47:38 -!- Keskitalo has quit [K-Lined] 18:48:04 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:44 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as Bcadren 18:49:06 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:52:16 is there a nicer way to keep a github fork sync'd? or should I just have my local tracking master point at upstream and push all my new branches to origin 18:52:19 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:52:29 (assuming crawl/crawl is upstream and ebering/crawl is origin) 18:53:31 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53:42 New branch created: pull/190 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/190 18:53:42 03ebering02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/190 * 0.18-a0-314-g5e2b89e: Add tiles for Xom's chesspieces (CanOfWorms) 10(14 minutes ago, 9 files, 8+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5e2b89e043aa 18:53:55 ebering: if you find a good solution, let me know. I'm basically keeping my local repo synced with crawl/crawl, and only using my forked repo for pushing my pull requests 18:54:01 * Grunt appears! 18:54:21 sup Grunt 18:54:26 (aka srunt) 18:54:26 * Grunt crumbles away. 18:54:58 I am going to add some adjustments to evoker-god-rebase before I make those altar ideas of my own 18:55:26 looking forward to seeiing these when I get back to my pak game 18:55:58 what kind of adjustments we talkin' about 18:56:33 at least: gift frequency and MP-on-kills rate 18:56:55 still contemplating removing drain/sap magic but I want to see if gammafunk uses them at all first 18:56:58 <.< 18:57:07 it bums me out that everytime I checkout a new branch, I have to recompile everything. 18:57:20 it bums me out more that I'm not smart enough to know how to easily fix that 18:57:37 yeah 18:57:37 mp on kills is quite high right now 18:57:39 dunno, i liked that pakellas had a side-power that wasn't directly related to evocations but tied in with the flavor 18:58:05 they're not really thematic any longer though 18:58:16 johnstein: that's probably not you, that's probably a difference in enum.h or something equally obnoxious between branches 18:58:19 I'm assuming grunt just pulled the numbers from veh 18:58:24 correct 18:58:54 drain/sap would be better if it didn't give contam 18:58:54 since it's really hard to be in a state that isn't 18:59:39 0 mp 18:59:39 or max mp 18:59:39 with the current mp on kills rate 19:00:00 ya 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:09 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 19:00:45 !tell ontoclasm I know you sometimes review or fixup tiles, your eyes could probably help with pull-request 190 19:00:45 ebering: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 19:01:29 -!- nyttyn has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 19:01:40 give pak an ability that drains a wand to 0 charges, but uses all the charges simultaneously? 19:01:40 basically super device surge 19:01:48 or maybe have pak passively merge wands 19:01:48 so like 19:01:48 if you're carrying a wand of cold 19:01:54 and you find another wand of cold 19:02:01 the charges from the other wand get moved to your wand 19:02:32 what about when the first wand hit max charges 19:02:36 !lm * deepabyss abyss.enter br=abyss s=place x=min(xl),avg(xl),max(xl) 19:02:52 48 milestones for * (deepabyss abyss.enter br=abyss): 17x Abyss:3 [13, 20.53, 27], 16x Abyss:2 [10, 17.44, 26], 8x Abyss:1 [6, 12, 25], 5x Abyss:4 [16, 21.4, 27], 2x Abyss:5 [23, 25, 27] 19:02:58 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 19:03:03 no caps 19:03:26 isn't that pakellas's top-level ability, charging a wand or rod past max 19:04:29 it just supercharges it 19:04:29 yes, but you don't need to find another wand to get it 19:04:47 besides supercharge isn't very good on wands to begin with 19:05:09 you just use it on the best rod you got 19:05:36 wasn't somebody working on randart rods, pakellas should give those out 19:05:47 I was! a while ago 19:05:54 the biggest problem with pak right now is the inventory juggling that comes with carrying evocables 19:05:54 it's worse than nem since nem only gifts 3 types of items 19:05:57 they're almost completely meaningless now because rods have only one spell always now 19:06:00 :) 19:06:11 so typically if I try to place multiple copies of a vault in wizmode, it works. i.e. 0 10 &L my_vault_name 19:06:22 but with this johnstein_pakellas_shop vault, it won't place more than 2 19:06:34 let's see that vault 19:06:36 and I don't see anything in the ctrl+p log indicating what the problem is 19:06:48 nicolae-: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188/files third vault 19:08:00 sacrifice a book, pick a spell from the book (possibly level 6 max) 19:08:00 get a supercharged rod that uses that spell 19:08:00 rod of orb of destruction 19:09:27 hrmmmmm 19:09:38 nicolae-: http://dev.berotato.org:8081/watch/dbrotest 19:09:45 also, damn, how much does that shop charge for just an empty wand 19:09:48 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:10:06 watching 19:10:20 doing 6 19:11:25 my first suggestion would be to comment out the shop real quick and try again 19:11:27 nicolae-: with greed:2000 it was around 250 19:11:36 it's a lot lower now 19:11:48 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:11:53 200 now 19:12:01 doesn't affect the price that much 19:12:06 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:12:16 I'll try removing the shop 19:12:48 i vaguely recall discovering something weird when the greed is too high, it starts putting out lower numbers 19:12:57 is greed one byte or something 19:12:57 imo don't have greed at all 19:13:02 actually, grunt 19:13:02 or don't have the shop at all 19:13:04 greed is good 19:13:13 nicolae-: the G in Grunt does not stand for Gozag 19:14:07 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:18 yeah i'm not sure why it's greedy 19:14:20 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:21 The build has errored. (master - 1421722 #3860 : ontoclasm): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93476543 19:14:21 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:14:26 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 19:15:14 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:44 I was using greed since the other god shops used it. seemed like that was the Right Way. but like gammafunk said above, for an early vault, players won't have much money anyway 19:16:09 i think the only other god shop is gozag's and the greed there is for flavor reasons 19:16:11 it's just a shop 19:16:41 zin's purification station 19:17:02 oh grunt 19:17:04 ah, right 19:17:15 make spark wasps blinkbolt less often 19:17:22 the message spam from a pack of them is ridiculous 19:17:26 also, it's the KFEAT: S = gadget shop etc line that's preventing more than 2 from being placed 19:17:38 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 254 seconds] 19:17:45 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 19:18:00 not like it's a problem outside testing or anything 19:18:34 hrm 19:18:52 it might be some underlying bug though 19:18:53 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god-rebase] * 0.18-a0-368-ga3f79b7: Merge branch 'master' into evoker-god-rebase 10(22 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3f79b7c708b 19:18:53 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god-rebase] * 0.18-a0-369-g9c61079: Increase P's gift timeout by 50%. 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c61079ab1b8 19:18:53 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god-rebase] * 0.18-a0-370-g6957ae7: Halve rate of P MP-on-kills. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6957ae71a52c 19:18:53 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god-rebase] * 0.18-a0-371-g15bd2cd: Update P's lugonu_bribe (MarvinPA). 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15bd2cd16bea 19:18:53 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god-rebase] * 0.18-a0-372-g78c332e: Some basic, purely decorative P overflow altar designs. 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 75+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78c332e13624 19:19:02 what if you just specify a gadget shop with nothing else 19:19:33 oh, alchemical symbols, neat 19:19:37 :) 19:19:53 I knew someone would immediately recognise them. 19:20:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:20:20 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-333-g5d9fcdf: Slightly reduce the cap on stat bonuses from randarts 10(60 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5d9fcdf20795 19:20:20 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-334-ga19a39d: Remove net immunity from oozes 10(42 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a19a39de440f 19:20:20 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-335-g58a8fbe: Remove worship/penance interactions from Xom chess pieces 10(17 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58a8fbeeb7ee 19:20:33 <|amethyst> why does only _basics include no_rotate ? 19:20:52 I guess I could tag the others no_rotate and no_vmirror 19:21:14 or just no_mirror 19:21:27 (which doesn't exist) 19:22:31 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:23:00 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:23:59 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god-rebase] * 0.18-a0-373-gcc2b192: Update some tags on the P overflows. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc2b19289a42 19:24:34 fr god of alchemy 19:24:49 that's gozag 19:25:00 turns everything into gold 19:25:02 good observation 19:25:05 >.> 19:25:11 anyway dinner time 19:25:11 oh shiiii 19:25:21 Grunt: consider giving spark wasps dig 19:25:27 ebering: no 19:25:28 :b 19:25:39 dig+blinkbolt was very scary when I ran into a randlord with it 19:25:55 -!- Culka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:27:49 need to merge master into the other experimentals but I will do that after evoker-god-rebase finishes rebuilding 19:27:55 and/or after dinner 19:30:37 Grunt: should I rebuild P? 19:30:51 ah 19:30:56 grunt: give spark wasps chain lightning 19:31:12 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 19:32:26 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:33:21 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:33:48 -!- xtwv has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:25 Control Undead still memorizable after Sacrifice Love 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10117 by johnnyzero 19:34:28 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:36:12 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:36:46 Experimental (evoker-god-rebase) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-373-gcc2b192 19:37:19 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:39:45 -!- FishmanTm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:40:47 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:41:09 -!- Gorgo has quit [Client Quit] 19:42:54 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:45:26 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46:25 -!- omniguy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:47:06 -!- luukano has quit [Client Quit] 19:52:26 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53:24 -!- Vizer has quit [Client Quit] 19:54:46 03Grunt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-368-ga3f79b7: Merge branch 'master' into evoker-god-rebase 10(58 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3f79b7c708b 19:54:46 03Grunt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-369-g9c61079: Increase P's gift timeout by 50%. 10(56 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c61079ab1b8 19:54:46 03Grunt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-370-g6957ae7: Halve rate of P MP-on-kills. 10(54 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6957ae71a52c 19:54:46 03Grunt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-371-g15bd2cd: Update P's lugonu_bribe (MarvinPA). 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15bd2cd16bea 19:54:46 03Grunt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-372-g78c332e: Some basic, purely decorative P overflow altar designs. 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 75+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78c332e13624 19:54:46 03Grunt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-373-gcc2b192: Update some tags on the P overflows. 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc2b19289a42 19:54:46 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-374-gd6dc093: add a Pakellas overflow altar vault 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 43+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d6dc093568d4 19:54:46 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-375-gf53372f: add a P overflow altar vault 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f53372f35c3c 19:54:46 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-376-g1482ce0: add new P altar vault with shop 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 27+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1482ce0db80d 19:54:46 03johnstein02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/188 * 0.18-a0-377-ge9b6682: adjust pakellas shop weightings 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e9b6682c7210 19:54:59 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:21 did that just get announced twice? 19:55:30 oh some of it is new 19:55:31 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:55:39 that's confusing 19:55:41 chei is announcing pull requests on non-master branches weird it seems 19:55:50 ohh it's a pull request 19:55:53 everytime I update my pull request, it's been doing silly things like that 19:56:19 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:56:44 only the last 4 are even mine 19:56:59 .banisheddd lg:ktyp!=winning -2 -tv:>$ 19:57:07 8/9. HaroldBottleTripper, XL15 HECj, T:17603 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 19:59:06 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:01:45 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:03:47 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:58 Grunt: literally first altar found was P this time 20:04:03 good 20:04:28 nice 20:04:28 are you... streaming??? 20:04:52 03Grunt02 07[orcs_and_elves] * 0.18-a0-347-g6e1119a: Merge branch 'master' into orcs_and_elves 10(46 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e1119a670d3 20:04:55 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 20:05:04 CanOfWorms: twitch does notifications fwiw 20:05:14 I know 20:05:16 I haven't gotten one 20:05:51 -!- luukano has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:06:05 doy: your keys.txt annoys checkwhite 20:06:06 ftr 20:06:12 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-336-g513f945: Don't allow Control Undead or Simulacrum under sacrifice love (#10117) 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/513f945b5aa4 20:09:53 oh that reminds me re: orcs and elves 20:10:24 -!- luukano has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:42 some of that branch is more likely to land than other parts, imo, but let's hear what you have to say 20:10:45 :) 20:10:54 i don't think using lich-style spells in more places is really good, i'd just suggest coming up with a couple of spell sets with a mix of the combined stuff 20:11:38 unless it's possible to just give the full list of spells they can have on xv i guess, i think regular spell sets might still be better though 20:11:54 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:11:54 also i actually thought elf:2 blade was pretty ok personally 20:12:39 other stuff i'd probably have to actually play to have a useful opinion on :P 20:12:46 imo do that :b 20:13:09 it would be a good way to: figure out what kind of spell sets we want for de mages 20:16:06 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:16:42 Experimental (orcs_and_elves) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-347-g6e1119a 20:17:18 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 20:17:53 03Grunt02 07[abyssrun] * 0.18-a0-343-gae81b87: Merge branch 'master' into abyssrun 10(18 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae81b87803ba 20:18:00 why is the wand of flame brown, gammafunk ? 20:18:23 rc setting or pak stuff? 20:18:37 the former, I imagine? 20:18:41 p should not do anything with that 20:20:05 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:22:06 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:22:47 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:29:46 Experimental (abyssrun) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-343-gae81b87 20:32:35 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:33:46 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 20:41:39 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:42:31 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(master - 825dae7 #3864 : Jesse Luehrs): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93540828 22:00:31 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:00:45 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:03:27 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:04:21 -!- GamerKelb has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:04:51 -!- lukano has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:17 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 22:08:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:35 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:14:45 -!- lukano has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:09 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:16:21 -!- lukano has quit [Client Quit] 22:20:46 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:21:47 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:22:29 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:29:53 <|amethyst> hm, so you know how we use / to simulate shift and * to simulate ctrl? 22:30:16 <|amethyst> what happens if you don't have shift or ctrl? 22:30:36 I didn't know about / 22:30:53 <|amethyst> /8 doesn't simulate *, it does shift-8 and runs north 22:31:26 <|amethyst> oh 22:31:33 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:31:33 how could you not have shift 22:31:33 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:31:35 <|amethyst> I guess those are intended to be keypad * and / 22:31:37 !messages 22:31:37 (1/1) ebering said (3h 30m 52s ago): I know you sometimes review or fixup tiles, your eyes could probably help with pull-request 190 22:31:47 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: bad onscreen keyboard, I dunno? 22:31:53 hm 22:32:05 <|amethyst> hm 22:32:11 hm?? 22:32:12 <|amethyst> hm 22:32:16 how do i find pull-requests? just dig through github? 22:32:19 <|amethyst> oh, I hear shift-tab doesn't work in some (all) browsers? 22:32:21 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:32:33 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/190 22:32:36 <|amethyst> so I guess it would be useful for that, even if you have a shift 22:32:55 <|amethyst> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pulls for the list 22:33:09 !cmd !pr .echo https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/$1 22:33:09 Redefined command: !pr => .echo https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/$1 22:33:14 !pr 190 22:33:14 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/190 22:33:17 good 22:33:18 ah, thanks 22:33:18 :) 22:33:23 yeah, those look fine to me 22:33:46 i assume they work the way fruit does w.r.t. having multiple variants 22:34:09 yes 22:34:14 <|amethyst> %git pull/191 22:34:14 Could not find commit pull/191 (git returned 128) 22:34:16 <|amethyst> %git pull/191/head 22:34:16 Could not find commit pull/191/head (git returned 128) 22:34:21 <|amethyst> hm 22:34:24 ? 22:34:29 %git https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/191 22:34:29 Could not find commit https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/191 (git returned 128) 22:34:37 <|amethyst> oh 22:34:41 %git https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/190 22:34:41 Could not find commit https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/190 (git returned 128) 22:34:43 or that 22:34:51 <|amethyst> %git pull/190/head 22:34:51 07ebering02 * 0.18-a0-314-g5e2b89e: Add tiles for Xom's chesspieces (CanOfWorms) 10(4 hours ago, 9 files, 8+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5e2b89e043aa 22:34:55 ah 22:35:12 <|amethyst> !cmd !pr .echo %git pull/$1/head 22:35:13 Redefined command: !pr => .echo %git pull/$1/head 22:35:14 oh, ontoclasm 22:35:16 <|amethyst> !pr 190 22:35:16 %git pull/${1/head} 190 22:35:16 Could not find commit pull/${1/head} 190 (git returned 128) 22:35:25 <|amethyst> !cmd !pr .echo %git pull/${1}/head 22:35:25 Redefined command: !pr => .echo %git pull/${1}/head 22:35:26 did you see the phantom mirror tiles I made yesterday (today) 22:35:32 <|amethyst> !pr 190 22:35:32 %git pull/190/head 22:35:32 07ebering02 * 0.18-a0-314-g5e2b89e: Add tiles for Xom's chesspieces (CanOfWorms) 10(4 hours ago, 9 files, 8+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5e2b89e043aa 22:35:39 phantom mirror tile?? 22:35:46 CanOfWorms: yeah, but i don't have the link any more; could you relink them 22:35:49 /it 22:35:54 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:55 The build was fixed. (master - 9a90bd9 #3865 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/93543770 22:35:55 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:35:55 <|amethyst> oh 22:36:09 <|amethyst> I guess that doesn't actually include the PR's URL when requested 22:36:23 <|amethyst> !cmd !pr .echo https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/$1 22:36:23 Redefined command: !pr => .echo https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/$1 22:36:47 |amethyst: it could return both 22:37:02 well, maybe not 22:37:10 since it has to go through chei 22:37:26 <|amethyst> it could echo one thing itself then talk to chei 22:37:33 <|amethyst> but that's a lot of spam for one command 22:38:03 <|amethyst> need to figure out if there's a reasonable way to guess a branch for a given commit 22:38:21 oh geez some guy is playing 0.10 22:38:21 I don't actually remember offhand whether there is a good way to make sequell say two distinct things in response to a command anyway 22:38:29 the tiles, my eyes are bleeding 22:38:34 <|amethyst> .echo "foo\nbar" 22:38:34 "foo\nbar" 22:38:53 pretty sure you can do it with :beh: but that is not very pleasant 22:40:23 .echo $(!.echo foo) bar 22:40:24 Not a valid command: !.echo foo in !.echo foo 22:40:26 -!- xczxc has quit [Client Quit] 22:40:28 .echo $(.echo foo) bar 22:40:29 foo bar 22:40:32 feh 22:40:38 <|amethyst> already tried 22:40:38 <|amethyst> .echo $(do (exec ".echo foo") (+ exec ".echo bar")) 22:40:39 0.0 22:40:39 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:40:40 <|amethyst> err 22:40:43 <|amethyst> .echo $(do (exec ".echo foo") (exec ".echo bar")) 22:40:43 bar 22:41:02 <|amethyst> .echo $(do (.echo foo) (.echo bar)) 22:41:02 bar 22:41:13 <|amethyst> !cmd .echo 22:41:14 Built-in: .echo => https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/commands/echo.pl 22:41:51 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:42:47 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:45:36 !learn add :beh: .echo echochamber ::: echochamber ::: continue 22:45:37 :beh:[24/24]: .echo echochamber ::: echochamber ::: continue 22:45:44 .echo echochamber 22:45:44 echochamber 22:45:44 echochamber 22:49:05 hm, i should go over the rod icons 22:49:12 rods have gotten changed so much 22:49:23 :) 22:49:26 !learn add :beh: .echo echochamber ::: $(ignore (!learn add :beh: .echo echochamber ::: echochamber ::: continue)) ::: continue 22:49:26 :beh:[25/25]: .echo echochamber ::: $(ignore (!learn add :beh: .echo echochamber ::: echochamber ::: continue)) ::: continue 22:49:29 i think the iron rod has the old sword icon from rods of striking? 22:49:30 .echo echochamber 22:49:31 echochamber 22:49:31 $(ignore (!learn add :beh: .echo echochamber 22:49:33 probably 22:49:35 oops 22:49:36 good 22:49:49 is there even a rod of destruction any more 22:49:53 yes 22:50:02 ??rod of destruction 22:50:02 rod of destruction[1/2]: Fires a random bolt from the list [venom, draining, fire, cold, lightning, quicksilver, corrosive.] 22:50:03 !learn add :beh: .echo echochamber ::: $(ignore (!learn add :beh: .echo echochamber \:\:\: echochamber \:\:\: continue)) ::: continue 22:50:03 :beh:[26/26]: .echo echochamber ::: $(ignore (!learn add :beh: .echo echochamber \:\:\: echochamber \:\:\: continue)) ::: continue 22:50:06 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:50:10 !learn del :beh:[25] 22:50:10 Deleted :beh:[25/26]: .echo echochamber ::: $(ignore (!learn add :beh: .echo echochamber ::: echochamber ::: continue)) ::: continue 22:50:15 .echo echochamber 22:50:16 echochamber 22:50:16 echochamber 22:50:17 .echo echochamber 22:50:18 echochamber 22:50:18 echochamber 22:50:26 :( 22:50:28 okay that didn't actually work, will stop spamming -dev 22:50:39 haha 22:51:47 Grunt: is there a list of rods 22:51:56 like in enum.h or something 22:52:13 it would be in itemprop-enum.h 22:52:13 <|amethyst> !source rod_type 22:52:13 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemprop-enum.h#l474 22:52:28 ya 22:52:36 thanks 22:53:06 <|amethyst> (warding and venom are removed, hence the #if TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 34) 22:53:09 okay yeah, looks like just iron and destruction that need changing 22:53:20 :) 22:53:32 and really iron can use the iron ball that destruction currently has 22:54:12 ! 22:54:48 -!- |amethyst is now known as notlamethyst 22:55:01 -!- notlamethyst is now known as |amethyst 22:58:06 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:11 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01:06 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:10 well that was easy 23:03:18 next up: wasps and 5s 23:03:50 5s are so awful, how did i never get around to them 23:05:46 * Grunt shouts, "Get thee gone, thou jarring miscreant tiles!" 23:06:02 * ontoclasm picks up a beetle and eats it. 23:08:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:49 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.18-a0-337-g1235303: Correct rod icons 10(in the future, 4 files, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/123530347c56 23:13:39 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:39 The build failed. 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