00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:06 i've updated the github depo with a list of artists / new text, i'll touch base back when I have the filter work done with signoffs 00:00:41 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17.0-26-gececa24 00:02:41 hm 00:02:42 sa thread reports 00:02:43 donblas: at first glance i notice that many of the "dead" tiles have since been replaced 00:02:44 Lua error running hook 'post_place' on map 'shoals_end_hangedman': /crawl-master/crawl-0.17/data/dat/dlua/dungeon.lua:583: Failed to place map 'shoals_ilsuiw_ice' 00:02:59 is that a known issue? 00:04:24 -!- jondaly has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:01 yeah i expect that most of them will be re-done given enough time 00:05:47 and at some point we can say, if none of these tiles exist anymore, then maybe we can be more clear in the docs on license status 00:06:16 yeah 00:06:40 as a completely unrelated but since I'm in crawl-dev question - any word on the evoker god? I played him a few times on webtiles and it looked pretty cool but noticed it wasn't in last release 00:06:46 <|amethyst> IMO after contacting mantis/tavern/etc tile submitters, any remaining tiles with an unclear license should be replaced 00:06:57 The majority of Crawl's tiles and artwork are released under the CC0 license (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/), and new submissions are under this license unless otherwise specified. However, the licensing situation may be complex, especially for older pieces. For the status of existing artwork, see https://github.com/donblas/crawl-tiles 00:07:09 i don't think the evoker god really got much traction 00:07:12 ^ lgtm 00:07:14 well 00:07:23 there were a few gods in that timeframe that got tried and kind of petered out 00:07:30 evoker god, no-backtrack god 00:07:32 <|amethyst> donblas: Grunt is working on it 00:07:34 it's grunt's baby, and he left. but now he's back, and he was talking about maybe starting up work on it again? 00:07:34 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:36 anyone want to speak up before i commit this? 00:07:38 oh, neat 00:07:41 i always like seeing more gods 00:08:04 <|amethyst> at least, was going to push a rebase to a new experimental branch after tournament 00:08:09 <|amethyst> I don't know about new code 00:08:10 and @amethyst I'm fine with that, I'll have you a full list of filenames that I believe are hosed when I'm done and you can git rm / redo / whatever 00:08:23 oh wow, tiles_creation is super old 00:08:33 I'm honestly quite sad about no-backtrack god, since I was the one who got lasty to start working on it in the first place. someday, maybe... 00:08:49 "send an email containing your tiles to one of the tiles developers (ennewalker, evktalo, jpeg)" 00:08:55 <|amethyst> haha 00:09:05 i have those names on my old list 00:09:22 2010 feels forever ago 00:09:23 <|amethyst> evktalo is still around occasionally, at least 00:09:28 <|amethyst> very occasionally 00:09:36 <|amethyst> !seen Keskitalo 00:09:36 I last saw Keskitalo at Tue Nov 17 11:24:12 2015 UTC (1d 17h 45m 23s ago) saying 'http://store.steampowered.com/app/333300/' on ##crawl-dev. 00:09:39 PleasingFungus: well, that's the thing about the no-backtrack god. once you leave it you can't go back... 00:09:42 ! 00:09:49 2010 is half a decade ago, which is bullshit and illegal 00:09:59 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:10:32 im illegal. 00:10:36 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:43 <|amethyst> as @crawlcode pointed out a while back, Crawl is old enough to vote this year 00:10:43 and you're under arrest 00:10:49 <|amethyst> (in some jurisdictions) 00:10:58 who's it voting for 00:11:01 ontoclasm: on your text 00:11:08 why not transfer the donblas repo to the crawl org 00:11:10 <|amethyst> nicolae-: Lom Lobon 00:11:23 makes it more clearly a crawl-related thing 00:11:27 oh, PleasingFungus, i made a change to draconian monastery and posted it on my recent vaults ticket 00:11:39 nicolae-: you should post pull requests so i can see them 00:11:40 hm 00:11:46 |amethyst: what's lom lobon's stance on taxes 00:11:46 chequers: that'd be fine with me; i'm not sure how to do so though 00:12:03 @chequers if you want to give me commit i'm happy to do so 00:12:04 chequers: i should but i'm not entirely sure how 00:12:12 that way it isn't so "this random guy" 00:12:13 i am not well-versed in git 00:12:23 ontoclasm: two options 1) make donblas a crawl org admin, transfer the repo, (optional) remove his crawl org admin role 2) just clone it manually 00:12:38 donblas: re evoker god, I have a new version of Pakellas ready to be an experimental branch after the tourney 00:12:38 <|amethyst> nicolae-: it's more of a float than a stance, really 00:12:41 :) 00:12:46 awesome 00:12:47 <|amethyst> ah, so it is new 00:12:54 oh, baller 00:12:57 what's new about pakellas 00:13:00 <|amethyst> I was thinking from your earlier comments that it was just a rebase 00:13:06 and i'm fine with either approach @chequers 00:13:11 nicolae-: do you use commandline 00:13:16 yes, msysgit 00:13:18 nicolae-: I talked about it with grunt the other day; we had a vague feeling that more randomness was better than less 00:13:20 donblas: fyi i am not an admin / member of the crawl org on github 00:13:22 so I didn't add the numspells myself 00:13:28 but I don't have a strong position here 00:13:30 i don't need admin powers afterwards as long I have commit to the tiles bit 00:13:31 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:13:37 (obviously) 00:13:45 <|amethyst> I'd certainly support donblas getting commit bit, but it would have to go through the cabal 00:13:48 who should I poke to get that ball moving? 00:13:54 well, the intent was to just have those spells, but tbh i'm not super concerned either way 00:13:55 (moving depo) 00:14:02 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:14:08 looking at it again i think what i like most about that vault is the stained glass 00:14:33 sad truth: I never realized that was supposed to be stained glass 00:14:42 nicolae-: it would work like this: fork crawl/crawl on github ; git clone ; git checkout -b my-new-vaults-branch ; ; git commit -a -m "my new vaults" ; git push --all ; 00:14:44 but I never realized that the soccer game was supposed to be one, either 00:14:51 zot is too sophisticated for me... 00:15:23 where would i find my github repo page 00:15:40 @chequers i think reading https://help.github.com/articles/transferring-a-repository/ that i don't need admin to do transfer, I just need somebody who does to ok 00:15:48 ontoclasm: since option 1 seems like it's going to shave a yak, option 2 is this: 'git clone --bare --mirror ; ; ; git push --mirror' 00:15:54 donblas: oh, new feature, even better 00:16:07 PleasingFungus: these days i don't worry so much if the flavor doesn't get across 00:16:08 -!- Cerpin has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:16:08 nicolae-: if you go to the crawl/crawl official repo, click fork 00:16:16 nicolae-: if you have a fork already it will take you there 00:16:27 nicolae-: oh btw, 'crawl/crawl' = https://github.com/crawl/crawl 00:16:43 <|amethyst> oh, I guess we can grant separate permissions to particular repos 00:16:54 git is black magic to me 00:17:05 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:10 |amethyst: there are org-level and repo-level permissions 00:17:18 i understand how it works on one machine but online repos make my head spin 00:17:24 git is basically sorcery 00:17:46 i use git at work all day so I know my way around, anything I can help explain? 00:17:48 i'm like 95% sure that when i try making a pull request i'm gonna end up with an army of marching brooms in my room 00:18:03 donblas: i think you need admin 00:18:04 <|amethyst> nicolae-: hopefully with Mickey Mouse, not Nicolas Cage 00:18:04 'Users must have admin or owner rights within the receiving organization before they can transfer a repository that they individually own. If the user does not already have this level of access, a temporary admin team can be created with only the user. The user sending the repository is the only one who can perform the transfer. 00:18:31 ah, i misread completely 00:18:42 <|amethyst> chequers: everybody on the dev team is an admin 00:18:43 anyway i'll do a pull request for my next big vault batch, then 00:18:48 <|amethyst> err, an owner actually 00:18:52 !coffee donblas 00:18:54 maybe even a code patch of some kind. 00:18:55 * Sequell hands donblas a pot of latte macchiato, brewed by Boris. 00:19:02 nicolae-: can't wait! 00:19:12 <|amethyst> we don't have different levels of access or anything like that 00:19:21 chequers: oh you say that now, but 00:19:46 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:48 nicolae-: if you're going to do unrelated changes, put them in another branch, so you'd go back to master branch (git checkout master) and then create a new branch from there (git checkout -b remove-lom-lobon) 00:19:57 <|amethyst> donblas: what's the repo URL again? 00:20:08 https://github.com/donblas/crawl-tiles 00:20:13 yeah, i can do checkout branches, i did one when i made my first attempt at an unrand 00:21:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:19 nice 00:21:36 -!- cr0ne has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:42 <|amethyst> donblas: hm, do you plan on keeping it as a zip file? 00:22:03 RIP, the executioner's axe "Frostbite" 00:22:14 not really, that was the last release in google code 00:22:40 i plan on copy over a snapshot of art in a folder 00:22:45 github has the create zip button 00:22:54 i just haven't done new release yet (obviously) 00:23:16 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24:00 <|amethyst> "Great repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How about fluffy-prune." 00:24:04 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24:10 <|amethyst> FR: Whisk of Prune 00:24:46 is somebody cloning the repo right now, or should i go ahead and commit this and edit it later 00:24:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:25:10 in theory, a git clone is a snapshot of when you started, you don't need to care if somebody commits during it 00:25:29 unless somebody git push with force, and then you are a bad person 00:25:29 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: commit what? 00:25:30 I think he meant 'clone' as in 'transfer to github' 00:25:35 ah, nm 00:25:36 donblas: no, i mean, with the old url 00:25:38 *transfer to crawl org 00:25:40 <|amethyst> ohh 00:25:43 <|amethyst> I'm in the process 00:26:16 anyway, good night all, thanks for the pull help! 00:26:19 git clone --bare --mirror https://github.com/donblas/crawl-tiles ; cd crawl-tiles ; sed -i'' -e 's/donblas/crawl/ .git/config ; git push --mirror 00:26:21 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:26:43 03PleasingFungus02 07[unravelling] * 0.18-a0-120-g5b9ab5a: debuff_* changes 10(4 weeks ago, 4 files, 67+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b9ab5af35ce 00:26:43 03PleasingFungus02 07[unravelling] * 0.18-a0-121-g003758c: Add *_is_debuffable() 10(17 minutes ago, 2 files, 100+ 69-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/003758c6bf48 00:26:43 03PleasingFungus02 07[unravelling] * 0.18-a0-122-g2ea3804: Violent Unravelling (L5 Hexes/Transmutations) 10(9 months ago, 10 files, 105+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ea38049328f 00:26:50 oops, fucked that up 00:26:53 ignore that! 00:26:57 ugh, tilemcache is an abomination now 00:27:28 it's just an endless pile of case blocks 00:27:42 <|amethyst> donblas, ontoclasm: https://github.com/crawl/tiles 00:27:48 03PleasingFungus02 07[unravelling] * 0.18-a0-120-gb8b59a8: Add *_is_debuffable() 10(4 weeks ago, 4 files, 143+ 60-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b8b59a8d7f07 00:27:48 03PleasingFungus02 07[unravelling] * 0.18-a0-121-gf854b86: Violent Unravelling (L5 Hexes/Transmutations) 10(9 months ago, 10 files, 105+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f854b86ed621 00:27:52 there we go 00:28:01 |amethyst: awesome, thanks 00:28:31 woot 00:28:33 <|amethyst> donblas: I gave admin access on that repo to donblas, but I see now you also have chamon 00:28:40 <|amethyst> s 00:28:51 chamons is my work git name 00:29:04 i just am too lazy to swap my git config 00:29:09 <|amethyst> ah :) 00:29:32 i'll clone that down now and test 00:29:55 <|amethyst> donblas: at the moment it has default settings, so turn off wikis and issues if you like 00:30:25 <|amethyst> also, I nominate donblas as License Manager 00:30:30 done 00:30:41 and runs away quickly 00:30:46 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.18-a0-120-g0483156: Clarify tiles license info. 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0483156deb41 00:30:52 i'm happy to help however though :) 00:32:47 donblas: hope that's better 00:33:43 <|amethyst> hm 00:33:53 <|amethyst> travis is pointed at particular repos, not the whole project, right? 00:33:58 <|amethyst> oh, I guess it would have to be 00:34:00 !unravel PleasingFungus 00:34:01 i'm fine w/ that text 00:34:11 Grunt: (: 00:34:22 <|amethyst> donblas: made a commit 00:34:34 that name's catching on! 00:34:35 any day now... 00:35:48 (:?? 00:35:48 (: 00:36:31 <|amethyst> donblas: I could fill in more real names and contact info for several of those people, but don't have the energy to right now 00:36:49 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:50 The build has errored. (unravelling - 2ea3804 #3706 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/91977181 00:36:50 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:36:58 ok, i have commit privy there (just tested) 00:37:00 <|amethyst> donblas: I am pretty sure that "castamir" is kilobyte (Adam Borowski, on the list earlier under his name) 00:37:25 amethyst anyone on that list i assume is cool already, so nice to have but not required for me to move forward 00:38:21 nuked my personal crawl-tiles to reduce confusion 00:38:41 alright, tomorrow night I start reviewing commits 00:38:41 <|amethyst> donblas: hm 00:38:57 <|amethyst> donblas: oh, I guess we would have had to do an explicit transfer to get the forwarding links 00:39:05 yeah 00:39:13 just clone / shove new copy 00:39:16 doesn't, which is fine 00:39:33 thanks for the help everyone! 00:39:41 <|amethyst> thank you! 00:39:49 <|amethyst> and sorry for the silence on the mailing list 00:40:09 <|amethyst> I had been thinking of replying for a while, but too busy with work and job application 00:40:17 <|amethyst> (same place, better position) 00:42:36 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:44:54 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:47:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:48:37 -!- Gorgo is now known as _Gorgo 00:52:25 hm. in spl-cast.cc:_do_cast(), how do we tell whether we're z- or Z-casting? 00:52:37 oh god, it's in beam, isn't it 00:53:41 nooooo 00:53:57 !banish PleasingFungus 00:53:57 gammafunk casts a spell. PleasingFungus is cast into the Abyss! 00:54:03 rip 00:54:04 man, if only it'd said beam.cc 00:54:43 if only 00:55:03 man, I'm honestly baffled by this. 00:57:47 !bug 9403 00:57:47 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9403 00:58:18 hm, guess I don't need to worry about that one anymore 00:58:28 -!- donblas has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:09 ??glyphs 01:02:09 glyphs[1/2]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 01:02:26 -!- Merphle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:02:28 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17.0-26-gececa24 01:05:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:06:51 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-120-g0483156 (34) 01:11:40 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:12:51 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:52 The build failed. 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We use emacs, son, they use vi." t-shirt 01:41:57 I have a feeling a lot of the vim people just use the shell for all directory navigation 01:42:07 <|amethyst> gammafunk: :vi . 01:42:15 <|amethyst> though, yeah, I use the shell more often 01:42:17 what does that give? 01:42:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: in vim, if you have netrw (it's there by default unless you do a tiny install or something), it's much like dired 01:42:54 ah 01:43:01 should give that a shot 01:43:38 one thing emacs has always done really well is copy-paste everywhere in all the kitchen sink gadgets it does give you 01:43:48 but I don't use most 01:44:15 I'm also wondering how well copying between "buffers" would work 01:44:26 in the vim+tmux setup 01:44:39 do people use :n and :p or whatever they are? 01:44:49 <|amethyst> yes, or :split 01:45:12 since emacs has things like ido/icicle I can get buffer name completion 01:47:53 <|amethyst> ah, :b 01:47:54 looks like vim does have some good basic buffer name switching/completion with :buffer 01:48:00 heh, yeah 01:48:01 <|amethyst> yeah 01:48:06 <|amethyst> yeah^2 01:48:18 I'll have to do a vim trial run at some point soon 01:48:34 I mean I can use vi/vim but I just can't use it as efficiently as I can emacs 01:48:53 <|amethyst> skip other vis entirely IMO 01:49:02 <|amethyst> if you're used to emacs they will just disappoint 01:49:22 yeah, was only considering vim 01:49:35 although perhaps "vim.wikia.com" should not be my primary reference 01:51:48 <|amethyst> I used to frequent ##vim, during my transition 01:53:01 <|amethyst> I haven't frequented any non-Crawl channels in like 7 or 8 years though 01:53:50 <|amethyst> err 01:53:53 <|amethyst> #vim, not ##vim 01:54:27 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55:27 <|amethyst> hm, misremembered, more like five years 01:57:21 hm visual bug in webtiles. blazinghand on cao 01:57:39 &&watchlink blazinghand 01:57:40 I'll report it but you can see it right now if you want 01:57:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:57:45 &watchlink blazinghand 01:57:46 http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-blazinghand 01:58:14 oh hm, I'm not seeing it right now 01:59:17 I got a screenshot though 01:59:43 http://i.imgur.com/4DG8yzM.png 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:03 I've seen that in the abyss a few times too 02:00:05 another one of my friends who was spectating experienced this too 02:00:09 &watch blazinghand 02:00:10 !watch blazinghand 02:00:11 Watch blazinghand at: http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-blazinghand 02:00:20 just make &watchlink &watch 02:01:18 <|amethyst> need to get cheibriados involved in there 02:01:24 so is this a known bug? (is it maybe a browser bug and not with webtiles?) 02:01:27 I'm on firefox 02:01:48 nm my friend saw it in chrome too 02:02:02 <|amethyst> n1k: the monster list you mean? 02:02:06 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/naga_warrior.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/naga_sharpshooter.png 02:02:19 |amethyst, yeah 02:02:56 <|amethyst> it might be #8811 or #9633, but it might be something different 02:03:25 chequers: ^watch, !watch, &watch, %watch, are server bot commands. 02:03:47 and are case-sensitive 02:03:57 <|amethyst> n1k: worth reporting anyway, if it turns out to be the same one of them can be marked to be a duplicate 02:03:58 but they will tell you if the player is playing 02:04:09 ok 02:04:17 |amethyst, will report now 02:04:21 and &watchlink isn't case-sensitive, but doesn't do the check if they are playing 02:05:46 <|amethyst> %pup ##crawl-dev &watch blazinghand 02:05:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:06:01 <|amethyst> need to unteach sequell about chei :) 02:06:39 <|amethyst> %pup ##crawl-dev !watch blazinghand 02:06:39 Watch blazinghand at: http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-blazinghand 02:07:25 -!- Shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:07:46 <|amethyst> %pup ##crawl-dev %pup ##crawl-dev testing 02:07:54 <|amethyst> aww 02:09:53 %pup hi 02:09:58 %pup ##crawl-dev hi 02:10:12 n1k: it's a known webtiles bug 02:10:15 not sure if there's a bug 02:10:21 still exists in webtiles-changes 02:10:26 ??evil gods 02:10:26 evil gods[1/2]: Beogh, Lugonu, Kikubaaqudgha, Yredelemnul, Makhleb. 02:11:53 chequers, oh ok, well I reported it anyway 02:12:34 -!- |amethyst is now known as lamethyst 02:12:48 -!- lamethyst is now known as |amethyst 02:13:00 -!- gammafunk is now known as grammafunk 02:13:34 which is apparently a hip-hop grandmother who's released an album 02:13:37 -!- grammafunk is now known as gammafunk 02:14:10 she did a collab with groove armarda 02:14:19 spoiler: not actually a gramma 02:14:37 <|amethyst> and chequers is a seafood restaurant in Atlanta 02:14:58 Incorrect tiles displayed in monster list after teleporting in the abyss 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10084 by n1000 02:18:09 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:21:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:25:38 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:27:02 I knew something was fishy about him 02:28:22 he hasn't been wise in picking associates :P 02:28:26 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:29:55 who, chequers? 02:30:46 I skipped a few lines of conversation and thought you were referring to blazinghand 02:30:47 oops 02:31:53 for a moment there I was wondering since when abyss has had seafood restaurants 02:32:01 sleep deprivation is fun 02:32:33 my ailment is the opposite--too late napping 02:32:34 <|amethyst> I think nicolae was a few weeks ago asking about putting corpses/chunks in a shop 02:32:48 <|amethyst> so abyss might have seafood restaurants some day 02:33:11 sharks are gone but I guess electric eels still exist 02:33:13 nicolae_abyss_seaside_resort 02:33:29 merfolk probably count too 02:34:15 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:34:48 hmm 02:34:51 !lg * vs newely won dur<3:00 02:34:52 No games for * (vs newely won dur<3:00). 02:34:56 !lg * vs newely won dur<3:00:00 02:34:57 37. lakren the Grand Master (L27 VSMo of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 8 runes on 2015-11-16 02:49:52, with 5726831 points after 87430 turns and 2:36:43. 02:35:03 !lg * vs newely won dur<3:00:00 s=cls 02:35:05 37 games for * (vs newely won dur<3:00:00): 6x Monk, 4x Fighter, 4x Hunter, 3x Berserker, 3x Fire Elementalist, 3x Assassin, 2x Wanderer, 2x Arcane Marksman, 2x Enchanter, Abyssal Knight, Venom Mage, Transmuter, Skald, Ice Elementalist, Gladiator, Chaos Knight, Warper 02:35:20 !lg * mi newely won dur<3:00:00 s=cls 02:35:20 129 games for * (mi newely won dur<3:00:00): 55x Berserker, 18x Fighter, 13x Gladiator, 6x Monk, 5x Wanderer, 4x Fire Elementalist, 4x Artificer, 4x Enchanter, 3x Air Elementalist, 3x Assassin, 2x Arcane Marksman, 2x Conjurer, Wizard, Venom Mage, Transmuter, Summoner, Skald, Necromancer, Ice Elementalist, Hunter, Earth Elementalist, Abyssal Knight 02:35:25 wow, really 02:35:57 oh, actually I can't do Mi, so it's VS or something else 02:36:13 !lg * newely won dur<3:00:00 urune=3 s=crace 02:36:14 471 games for * (newely won dur<3:00:00 urune=3): 102x Minotaur, 50x Gargoyle, 40x Deep Dwarf, 37x Troll, 34x Hill Orc, 27x Vine Stalker, 23x Demonspawn, 20x Formicid, 17x Octopode, 15x Merfolk, 15x Ogre, 13x Naga, 11x Ghoul, 11x Vampire, 10x Mummy, 9x Human, 9x Draconian, 6x Tengu, 5x Centaur, 4x High Elf, 4x Spriggan, 3x Halfling, 2x Kobold, 2x Demigod, 2x Felid 02:36:39 !lg * newely won dur<3:00:00 gr urune=3 s=cls 02:36:40 50 games for * (newely won dur<3:00:00 gr urune=3): 26x Berserker, 10x Fighter, 7x Gladiator, 2x Assassin, Wanderer, Monk, Hunter, Artificer, Air Elementalist 02:37:19 !lg . gr won 02:37:20 1. gammafunk the Petrodigitator (L27 GrDK of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2013-06-02 14:19:32, with 2159344 points after 139579 turns and 18:23:15. 02:37:29 I guess we'll try GrFi then 02:37:39 see if I can get my first sub 3hr win 02:37:45 gammafunk: does antimagic cause enemies to lose a turn after choosing to cast a spell, or just no matter what 02:37:58 only when they try to cast and fail, yeah 02:38:09 18hrs! 02:38:26 yeah, that's not my "fastest" win, but my fastest is like 6.5 hrs 02:38:29 so not fast 02:38:36 I never try to play fast realtime though 02:38:51 !lg gammafunk won min=turns 02:38:52 33. gammafunk the Genius of the Arcane (L27 HEIE of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-10-19 22:10:40, with 24084354 points after 61517 turns and 17:44:43. 02:38:53 !lg gammafunk won min=dur 02:38:54 33. gammafunk the Wrestler (L26 TrHu of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-02-14 04:58:56, with 1633358 points after 73020 turns and 6:26:01. 02:39:08 that above isn't my fastest turncount either 02:39:12 ??gammafunk[4 02:39:12 gammafunk[4/4]: 813. [urune=15] gammafunk the Demonologist (L27 HEIE of Sif Muna), quit the game on D:1 on 2014-02-22 20:26:26, with 941018 points after 49424 turns and 12:08:34. 02:39:23 but If I ever want to do an epic gammafunk vs lessens vs simm twitch race, I need to practice 02:39:45 dur has always been a bit of a dodgy measure 02:39:47 I think simm would only agree if I promise to remove death cobs, though 02:39:58 well I think it's legitimately challenging to do fast 02:40:06 pretty much anything is game-wise 02:40:13 fast realtime I mean 02:40:26 yeah, at the lower end it's fine 02:40:42 but if you leave the game open while you go get a coffee... 02:40:49 most experience players do have pretty low average duration 02:41:01 need to integrate eye tracking and require webcams to play 02:41:04 hrm 02:41:09 !lg bart won recent x=avg(dur) 02:41:09 37 games for bart (won recent): avg(dur)=7:58:08 02:41:17 yeah bart's not all that fast 02:41:22 but he tends to get lower turncount wins 02:41:36 !lg bart won recent urune=3 x=avg(turns) 02:41:36 21 games for bart (won recent urune=3): avg(turn)=70984.1 02:41:44 hrm, maybe only for 15 02:41:45 !lg * won urune=3 x=avg(dur) 02:41:46 16969 games for * (won urune=3): avg(dur)=8:30:46 02:41:53 !lg bart won recent urune=15 x=avg(turns) 02:41:53 6 games for bart (won recent urune=15): avg(turn)=76529.5 02:41:55 !lg goodplayers won urune=3 x=avg(dur) 02:41:56 12982 games for goodplayers (won urune=3): avg(dur)=7:47:41 02:42:03 !lg greatplayers won urune=3 x=avg(dur) 02:42:04 I guess he just does them "speedy" 02:42:04 7910 games for greatplayers (won urune=3): avg(dur)=7:06:49 02:42:20 !lg greaterplayers won urune=3 x=avg(dur) 02:42:20 6580 games for greaterplayers (won urune=3): avg(dur)=6:58:35 02:42:37 !lg * recent won / urune=15 02:42:38 3862/15522 games for * (recent won): N=3862/15522 (24.88%) 02:42:41 !lg goodplayers recent won / urune=15 02:42:42 I'm thinking of some specific players that probably average like 5hrs or so 02:42:46 2361/10796 games for goodplayers (recent won): N=2361/10796 (21.87%) 02:42:51 !lg greatplayers recent won / urune=15 02:42:53 960/5824 games for greatplayers (recent won): N=960/5824 (16.48%) 02:42:55 hah 02:43:14 extended is for noobs 02:43:29 yeah, since it's a victory parade 02:43:49 except (sort of) in a speedrun 02:47:38 <|amethyst> !lg * won urune=15 s=name x=-avg(dur) 02:47:41 7999 games for * (won urune=15): sim [2:30:48], 3x TALISMASHER [2:47:45], Elsazzing [3:09:50], FusRoDah [3:53:52], oooop [4:00:57], Eucla [4:04:17], lAl [4:12:15], evenbiggerpimpin [4:16:18], dmdlrnd [4:28:07], ultraelynae [4:38:16], 1311 [4:40:24], Banto [4:43:20], Tanglemaster [4:43:47], SharkmanAlt [4:47:49], Konquest [4:50:49], Agah [4:52:30], 10x ShopKeeper [4:55:24], ooo [4:57:22], residue [... 02:47:42 <|amethyst> !lg * won urune=15 s=name x=+avg(dur) 02:47:45 7999 games for * (won urune=15): Cuckatoo [9d+8:36:31], aweezy [4d+17:03:38], Lulero [4d+3:50:16], Spathi [3d+20:10:41], Faydane [3d+11:37:24], Jigsaw [3d+10:25:05], Hushed [3d+9:50:48], wwf [3d+7:40:13], neops [3d+5:18:49], Tegga21 [3d+4:18:06], Jovan [3d+4:07:13], 3x seyes [3d+3:54:16], AecTalek [3d+3:21:46], flashdoom [3d+3:08:46], truffant [3d+2:31:31], Magathrlibrary [3d+0:35:37], 6x hxy [2d+... 02:48:28 <|amethyst> !lg * won urune=15 s=name x=-avg(dur) ?: N>5 02:48:29 4738 games for * (won urune=15): 10x ShopKeeper [4:55:24], 8x BLOAX [5:41:14], 45x irum [6:12:09], 12x Tabstorm [6:18:27], 6x Misha [6:33:26], 7x MDvedh [6:38:04], 11x spelunker [6:39:38], 20x Sharkman1231 [6:44:20], 9x tatara [6:51:11], 9x moose [6:51:28], 28x DEFE [6:59:20], 16x Xen [7:01:59], 7x AFJsj [7:05:33], 11x Shard1697 [7:06:32], 6x Razawaza [7:06:52], 14x Assbag [7:08:48], 22x mrpyro [7... 02:48:32 <|amethyst> !lg * won urune=15 s=name x=+avg(dur) ?: N>5 02:48:33 4738 games for * (won urune=15): 6x hxy [2d+23:04:13], 7x petzl [2d+17:26:41], 23x glosham [2d+6:10:37], 8x Aarujn [2d+3:53:11], 6x rootoo [2d+3:48:23], 7x kraphead [2d+2:30:40], 17x Nebukadnezar [1d+17:43:53], 7x kerensky [1d+13:53:10], 6x Kalma [1d+13:06:01], 32x Jazzimus [1d+12:56:40], 9x denudes [1d+10:02:53], 8x gammafunk [1d+9:05:42], 6x Spectrina [1d+8:42:08], 11x sh [1d+8:38:35], 8x Daydre... 02:50:23 !lg * cpo max=dur 02:50:24 19883. Fiveotanaka the Ninja (L27 NaFE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-12-03 03:54:57, with 9801959 points after 178595 turns and 1d+10:39:51. 02:50:36 <|amethyst> !lg * max=dur 02:50:36 4918297. Eronarn the Grave Robber (L1 GhNe), quit the game on D:1 on 2008-03-09 00:03:33, with 6 points after 0 turns and 13d+15:09:44. 02:50:44 <|amethyst> !lg * max=dur won 02:50:45 35939. Cuckatoo the Farming Talismancer (L27 MuFi of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 61 runes on 2007-08-01 12:27:11, with 2200969 points after 3190190 turns and 9d+8:36:31. 02:50:45 until i fixed idle timeout in webtiles-changes, some people spent ages idling in a game 02:52:02 I'm looking forward to moving beem to tornado, to see how it plays better with the webtiles socket 02:52:29 seems to randomly lose the connection sometimes, yet I'm not triggering an exception 02:53:03 and once it seemed to lose the socket when I left my comp on overnight, and I came to find my system out of memory in the morning 02:53:33 probably I'm not doing all the socket checks I should, but I can look over the webtiles code to see what I might be missing 02:54:36 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:55:05 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 02:55:19 chequers: if you leave the game open to get a coffee i don't think that impacts your dur by much, does it? the timer stops when you go idle, i thought 02:56:16 that was always my understanding 02:56:24 if it doesn't that really impacts my game-times i'll bet 02:56:45 i'm often talking on irc pretty extensively with the game open 02:58:03 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:59:19 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:01:06 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:06:57 what counts as 'idle'? 03:11:11 that might be in crawl itself 03:11:55 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:12:49 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:13:51 IDLE_TIME_CLAMP 03:13:57 defined to 30 sec 03:14:19 and 03:14:25 !function handle_real_time 03:14:26 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/misc.cc#l803 03:16:11 so yeah the dur in those log entries and milestones is clamped so that idle time isn't really a factor 03:19:31 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17.0-26-gececa24 03:24:17 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:27:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:28:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29:22 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:29:28 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-121-g22d93ee (34) 03:35:33 -!- BoosterGold has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:35:33 -!- socks_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:36:42 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:38:41 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:40:50 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: ldf_] 03:41:25 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:43:10 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 03:45:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:46 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:10:31 -!- foeb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:10:42 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:21:10 -!- torax_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:32:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:39:41 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:49:48 !messages 04:49:48 No messages for TZer0. 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:22 -!- Hurricos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:10:38 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:31:20 -!- ketsa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:37:16 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 05:39:18 clever 05:41:21 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 05:49:28 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:52:53 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 05:55:27 -!- } has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:12 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:01 -!- } has left ##crawl-dev 06:00:00 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01:12 -!- TAS-2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:21 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 06:01:21 -!- paulr_ has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 06:01:21 -!- Annabella has quit [Excess Flood] 06:01:21 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v 06:01:22 -!- plathrop has quit [Excess Flood] 06:01:25 -!- lvh has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 06:01:25 -!- Shados has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 06:01:46 -!- plathrop has joined ##crawl-dev 06:02:22 -!- inire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:32 -!- } has quit [] 06:05:25 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:05:45 -!- _Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:10:08 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:19:08 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 06:21:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:23:43 -!- n1k has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:28:19 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:28:34 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:33:29 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:36:15 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:45:46 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:51:15 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:55:00 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:23:02 -!- SirVaulterScoff has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:26:06 -!- Shados has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 07:36:59 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:37:22 has "the open sea" always been placed in the abyss? 07:38:37 abyss has always had weird crap 07:48:33 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 07:49:08 johnny0: was that in a vault? 07:49:26 and were you abyssed from say shoals, or did you enter voluntarily? 07:50:14 normally that wouldn't place unless through (a very weird and probably broken) vault or possibly if you got abyssed in shoals and it grabbed a piece of the level (although that's a guess) 07:50:27 i entered voluntarily in depths 07:50:42 it looks pretty odd -- i'll backup the save 07:50:52 thanks 07:51:08 &dump . 07:51:09 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/johnnyzero/johnnyzero.txt 07:52:51 https://dobrazupa.org/saves/johnnyzero-crawl-0.17-151119-1251.tar.bz2 07:53:55 -!- Dixlet has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:55:43 looks like this is probably picking up some of depths 07:55:48 probably a vault there I'm guessing 07:56:35 interesting, there's nothing really in U:4 though 07:56:45 oh, I wonder... 07:56:47 yeah, pretty strange 07:56:50 thanks for taking a look at it 07:57:13 I'm going to just peak behind the trees in this water vault though 07:57:37 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:46 -!- Crut has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:01:32 hrm, it's possible it's taking this depths water vault 08:01:37 and doing something weird with it 08:03:36 !vault serial_bayou_shore_a 08:03:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/serial/bayou.des#l134 08:04:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:05:20 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:21 yeah, looking at the dimensions of this water area 08:05:30 I think it's almost certainly coming from that vault 08:06:06 strange indeed 08:07:03 i've never seen the open sea placed like that in the abyss, that's why i mentioned it 08:07:09 hopefully it's not a can of worms scenario 08:07:57 it doesn't have any of the trees though, I guess it could be coincidence wrt that serial vault, but my guess is it's picking that area and doing some creative extrapolation 08:09:17 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:09:21 !tell bh johnnyzero's abyss:1 has open sea bounding a rectangular water area (https://dobrazupa.org/saves/johnnyzero-crawl-0.17-151119-1251.tar.bz2), I think it may be grabbing parts of serial_bayou_shore_a from his Depths:4 08:09:22 gammafunk: OK, I'll let bh know. 08:10:44 !tell bh Can you confirm that? Ideally we'd not place open sea features in the abyss like that. The bayou vault doesn't have any open sea, so maybe there's no relation, but the bayou vault and that abyss area are very similar size. 08:10:44 gammafunk: OK, I'll let bh know. 08:11:20 !tell bh Also are you reading this from your kayak? 08:11:20 gammafunk: OK, I'll let bh know. 08:12:23 !bug 10054 08:12:23 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10054 08:12:36 that's the same thing I assume 08:13:08 oh, that's interesting 08:13:12 Medar: i'll attach my save to that report 08:13:20 sounds good 08:13:39 johnny0's abyss also had a long strip of water; let me see if it had open sea as well there 08:13:49 yes it did 08:14:02 it's just a slice of that same area, I guess 08:14:35 perhaps when it grabs a section bounded by water, it makes it into open sea (somehow trying to make a solid feature) 08:14:49 should be a ? at the end of that, since it's wild speculation 08:15:10 also +12 quick blade what the hell 08:16:40 and carrying around 3 cure muts with zin when you're low on slots?! 08:17:11 and an unided potion that might be experience when you have an id scroll?!?! 08:17:28 and plain decks with 0 evo?!?!?! 08:29:11 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:30:39 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:14 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:40:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:42:14 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:44:26 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I could not find anything in https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps:lua 09:46:05 <}> My goal is to enable force_more_message whenever an enemy comes into view, but only when not autoexploring, any idea how that could be done? 09:47:11 -!- rmd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:48:03 the documentation there is mostly for dlua (for vaults) 09:48:10 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:12 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 09:48:16 clua documentation is unfornately mostly non-existent 09:50:02 <}> Medar, I have another question about clua, is everything in /usr/local/share/crawl/dat/clua sourced when the game loads or it needs to be included? 09:50:15 the best you can do is looking at various source files I guess (l_*.cc) 09:50:23 <}> alright, I'll take a look 09:50:42 or looking at other scripts of course 09:51:14 there was also some unofficial documentation, but I forget where it was :) 09:51:41 I don't know about that, but if you are doing user scripts you should be using "include = x.lua" in your rc 09:51:54 <}> ok 09:52:29 oh, I'm wrong 09:52:34