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How would I search for that? 00:07:14 johnstein: search for encompass in elf.des 00:07:15 My strategy would be to look at the elf.des file 00:07:26 Ok. Ty amalloy 00:07:49 Didn't know if there were other files I had to check 00:08:04 <|amethyst> theoretically there would be 00:08:15 |amethyst: i feel like that could do weird stuff in eg certain coc endings 00:08:16 !source dat/des/branches/elf.des 00:08:17 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/elf.des 00:08:17 johnstein: there aren't 00:08:25 <|amethyst> but in practice I doubt there are any encompass vaults that allow themselves to be placed at branch ends 00:08:39 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:08:48 <|amethyst> chequers: do those endings have no_tele_into areas? 00:08:50 |amethyst: Vaults, hells 00:08:54 but those are generally exceptions 00:08:56 Crypt 00:08:59 <|amethyst> Err 00:09:02 i thought so, but maybe i'm wrong 00:09:05 <|amethyst> I mean, non-branch-specific encompass vaults 00:09:14 Grunt: Ty. Wasn't sure if it would ever make sense to have an elf:3 be similar to a crypt:3 type ending 00:09:15 some of the D and Depths vaults 00:09:39 johnstein: I would say: probably not 00:10:14 <|amethyst> Grunt: I guess those vaults have lua conditionals based on where they appear, to determine whether to place the depths/zot entrance? 00:10:19 <|amethyst> or they're overwritable? 00:10:20 |amethyst: correct 00:10:25 they have Lua conditionals 00:11:03 chequers: what kind of weird stuff? 00:11:32 <|amethyst> none of the coc ends have any no_tele_into squares AFAICT 00:11:36 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:11:38 <|amethyst> so my suggestion would not affect them at all 00:11:48 Grunt: ok. Just too different than the other elf:3 end vaults? My guts were assuming the same thing but I wasn't able to come up with compelling rationale cept: "it would be too different" or "too much work to be worth it" 00:12:25 well, also that Elf will probably be adjusted soon 00:13:01 Oh 00:13:08 ??elf revamp 00:13:09 I don't have a page labeled elf_revamp in my learndb. 00:13:12 <|amethyst> ??elven rune 00:13:12 abyss[1/9]: A merry-go-round of doom, featuring many, many, many different kinds of monsters who will find your flesh, bones, mind, and life tasty. Be sure to pick everything up on the way and kill everything you can so the demons can get better fed. 5 levels. Rune spawns in vaults on floor 3 and deeper. 00:13:29 <|amethyst> well, that was unexpected 00:14:14 I don't think Elf is going to get a rune 00:14:16 but 00:14:22 we'll see what new Elf ends up being like 00:14:25 Grunt: so I suppose I should hold off any elf:3 vaults? 00:14:33 incidentally one of the experimentals I have on standby is orcs_and_elves 00:14:44 which has some of the adjustments I'm experimenting with 00:15:33 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:17:26 ??altar 00:17:27 altar[1/1]: Altars are used for gaining religion and receiving Kiku's, Lugonu's, and TSO's gifts. Altars to gods besides Beogh, Lugonu, and Jiyva are guaranteed in Temple or D:2-9. Jiyva's altar is guaranteed in Slime:6, and Lugonu's and Beogh's altars occasionally appear in the Abyss and Orc, respectively. 00:17:30 hmm 00:17:36 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:17:36 is there an easy way to get altar descriptions 00:18:24 <|amethyst> in Lua? 00:18:32 no I mean 00:18:37 just the descriptions 00:18:42 because they're not on the wiki :v 00:18:53 or rather, not on the wiki pages for the gods 00:19:09 oh there's an actual page for altars 00:19:11 nevermind 00:19:27 <|amethyst> !source dat/descript/features.txt 00:19:27 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/features.txt 00:21:08 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:51 -!- Cerpin has quit [Client Quit] 00:23:08 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:56 -!- amalloy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:21 -!- amalloy has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:21 -!- orbekk has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:21 -!- vale_ has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:21 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:21 -!- Kanbei has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:21 -!- rmd has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:21 -!- ldf has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:22 -!- Lantell has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:22 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:22 -!- constantinexvi has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:22 -!- Azzkikr has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:22 -!- Henzell has quit [*.net *.split] 00:25:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:26:19 -!- JellieJels has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:29:11 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:38 -!- vale__ is now known as vale_ 00:33:49 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:34:04 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:01 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:57 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 00:37:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:11 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 00:48:05 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:53:00 !source cast_blink 00:53:00 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-transloc.cc#l322 00:54:41 !source uncontrolled_blink 00:54:41 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-transloc.cc#l115 00:54:59 -!- jspengler has quit [] 00:58:06 !source see_cell_no_trans 00:58:07 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/actor-los.cc#l40 00:58:22 !source cell_see_cell 00:58:22 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/losglobal.cc#l117 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:40 <|amethyst> chequers: for the meanings of the different types of los (no_trans vs solid_see vs default etc), see: 01:00:43 <|amethyst> !source los_type 01:00:43 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/enum.h#l4814 01:02:27 this whole chain of logic is really confusing to me, tbh 01:02:43 things like distortion weapon causing blink to fire by calling the spell seem really off 01:02:54 why? 01:03:21 <|amethyst> well 01:03:25 the blink spell just wraps the blink logic with a fail check, which doesn't apply here anyway 01:03:30 <|amethyst> it could just call uncontrolled_blink directly 01:04:03 <|amethyst> back in the day there would have been one difference 01:04:32 <|amethyst> hm 01:04:36 <|amethyst> actually, no, I guess not 01:05:17 <|amethyst> I was thinking something about unided stasis, but in that case it would call uncontrolled_blink anyway and thereby identified the item 01:05:32 <|amethyst> s/would call/would have called/ 01:05:32 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:05:36 |amethyst: re your suggestion, did you envisage the same behaviour applying to voluntary and involuntary blinks, or for involuntary blinks to silently follow different walls 01:05:52 *rules 01:06:05 <|amethyst> I would rather not distinguish voluntary and involuntary blinks here 01:06:10 <|amethyst> well 01:06:16 <|amethyst> voluntary uncontrolled 01:06:47 <|amethyst> my change would be to random_near_space 01:06:58 <|amethyst> which also affects dispersal and xom 01:07:07 oh, I thought you were suggesting to valid_blink_destination 01:07:07 <|amethyst> dispersal brand, that is 01:07:22 <|amethyst> oh, right 01:08:07 <|amethyst> well, valid_blink_destination doesn't appear to be used for controlled blinks? 01:12:22 i guess the best way to test this is to unwield disto in the vault for a while 01:12:38 <|amethyst> ? 01:12:46 <|amethyst> why not cast blink? 01:13:00 duh 01:13:01 <|amethyst> (after removing the spectre of course) 01:13:27 wow. now I'm blinking through walls 01:14:54 <|amethyst> "Could compact most of this into a big boolean if you wanted to trade readability for dubious speed improvements." 01:15:08 <|amethyst> extremely dubious speed improvements 01:16:36 <|amethyst> since a big boolean expression would need just as many branches as a series of ifs, thanks to short-circuiting 01:20:50 it's the thought that counts 01:21:34 <|amethyst> without checking git blame, I bet that comment was written by kilobyte 01:22:06 <|amethyst> oh, no 01:22:12 <|amethyst> was written by PF 01:22:37 <|amethyst> also, the first line of that comment is false 01:22:47 <|amethyst> since see_cell_no_trans does check things in between 01:23:13 <|amethyst> re blinking through walls, I assume you were missing a ! somewhere? 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02:21:56 <|amethyst> s/your/you/ 02:22:22 <|amethyst> the cells (stupid polysemic word) all should have that though 02:22:46 <|amethyst> what you wrote looks good 02:24:10 <|amethyst> BTW, I have to say I like new ignite poison 02:24:12 -!- Guest5409 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:24:43 <|amethyst> I guess old ignite poison would have worked just as well, but at 5MP isn't so great for that 02:25:14 <|amethyst> old ignite poison was my refrig analogue for snake and spider 02:38:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:55:02 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:46 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:07 <|amethyst> chequers: hm, when I make that change I'm not blinking into the cells 03:01:43 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:44 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:04:27 -!- Critica has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:08:52 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:33 -!- Demise has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:16:15 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:20:36 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:22:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:28:20 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:03 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39:49 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:43:43 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 04:08:00 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:08:23 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:16:11 -!- foeb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:16:42 -!- Bodrick has left ##crawl-dev 04:20:28 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:21:25 -!- ussdefiant__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:22:19 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 04:26:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:33:46 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:34:58 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:35:07 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 04:39:10 |amethyst: hm, maybe & ^R was doing something unusual 04:46:23 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:47:59 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:09:57 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:21:15 -!- tasonir has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:25:44 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:27:47 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:05:56 -!- Critica has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:23:39 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:24:12 http://store.steampowered.com/app/333300/ 06:24:30 -!- TZer0 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 06:27:55 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:08 -!- TZer0 has quit [Client Quit] 06:30:04 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:31:01 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:44 -!- surr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:41:35 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:42:59 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:02 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09:06 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:12:40 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 07:15:55 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:21:37 -!- Dingle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:42:51 -!- Voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43:14 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:52 -!- argent0 has quit [Client Quit] 07:51:24 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:05:53 hey, are you guys trying to convert the spriggan? 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10:07:19 ?rc 10:07:24 it's 90% fail, not 100% 10:07:31 ah, not 100%, ok 10:07:34 thanks 10:07:39 convert to ru, sac hand 10:08:21 what if it's in the other hand 10:11:37 sac both hands! 10:11:48 Then train Unhanded Combat 10:12:48 and take up football/soccer 10:18:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:47 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:24:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:24:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 10:25:47 i have to say auto-explore is behaving kinda weird in choosing what left-over unexplored area to go to next 10:26:00 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 10:27:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 10:30:28 maybe explore_wall_bias would help? what's a reasonable high value? manual just says "at higher values" 10:31:54 &rc lasty 10:31:55 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.17/Lasty.rc 10:32:03 I've been using 10 10:32:08 and it works reasonably well for me 10:32:21 I haven't experimented with choosing a wide range of values tho 10:32:36 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:33:23 03wheals02 07[monster-import] * 0.18-a0-117-g9461b00: Add the contents of the monster repo to util/monster/. 10(4 weeks ago, 9 files, 1967+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9461b00af568 10:33:23 03wheals02 07[monster-import] * 0.18-a0-118-gf2d97a4: Reformat monster code using the .clang-format in PR #146. 10(4 weeks ago, 4 files, 1035+ 1025-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f2d97a4ab78c 10:33:23 03wheals02 07[monster-import] * 0.18-a0-119-gd17af63: Clean up monster build/code/files. 10(4 weeks ago, 12 files, 228+ 851-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d17af631b2a5 10:33:23 03wheals02 07[monster-import] * 0.18-a0-120-g1094850: Fix a crash. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1094850ce97c 10:33:23 03wheals02 07[monster-import] * 0.18-a0-121-g736ffbb: Add the license for monster-main.cc to the repo. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 662+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/736ffbb4cd64 10:34:40 !tell |amethyst i updated the monster-import branch, and fixed the crash i was having... i'd still like to change the license to GPL like crawl itself but that may be impossible if nobody can get in touch with due 10:34:41 wheals: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 10:38:39 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:45:37 -!- culcube is now known as phyphor 10:46:06 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:46:52 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:24 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:50:54 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:59:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:41 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:08:03 -!- Palyth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10:53 -!- royiv_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:11:30 -!- njorth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:19:45 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:53 -!- pblur_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:27:41 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:03 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:30:12 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:23 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:32:14 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 11:32:41 -!- jefus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:33:33 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:35:16 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:40 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:36:03 -!- } has quit [] 11:38:26 -!- EriktheRed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41:38 -!- FireSight has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:43:58 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:46:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:49:47 wrong message?: (but will be slowed by your insufficient shield skill) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10083 by thromnambular 11:53:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:54:10 ah, @ hasn't been backported 11:54:19 @ fixes that is 11:55:34 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:55 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Client Quit] 11:58:46 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:57 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:05:08 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-117-g77bb7e1 (34) 12:06:36 ah, i was already wondering 12:07:09 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:19:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:21:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:22:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:23:00 oh gee... "You evolve."?! awesome idea :D 12:24:56 You feel a genetic drift. You feel genetically stable. doooh! 12:24:59 -!- EriktheRed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:25:01 buuuuuh! 12:27:27 Napkin: embrace change... 12:28:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:45:21 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:46:23 Jiyva rasps, "You have failed me! Welcome... change!" 12:49:35 -!- rmd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:31 gammafunk: did you see my naga draft 12:53:42 naga draft? 12:53:51 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/naga.png 12:53:57 tail isn't done 12:54:40 nice abs 12:54:49 I see you're introducing more skin tones as well 12:56:34 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:57:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:58:18 -!- seriallos has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:58:47 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:59:16 -!- cosh3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59:45 -!- jefus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59:45 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59:45 -!- thrig has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59:46 -!- atomicthumbs has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:14 -!- Nylidian has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:00:15 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:03:56 -!- EriktheRed__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:07:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:31 -!- Guest62055 has quit [Changing host] 13:09:12 -!- Guest62055 is now known as FIQ 13:12:35 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:36 -!- lemonpepper24 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:28:32 -!- saitcho has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:03 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:32:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:33:22 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 13:33:33 -!- orbekk has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 13:34:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:36:32 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:03 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:07 -!- saitcho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:50:39 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:53:58 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:55:49 to make the cancellation of recalling orcs more newbie friendly, maybe make it an ability that has to be invoked multiple times to get all orcs. 13:55:51 -!- atomicthumbs has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:58 -!- axecop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:56:05 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:17 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 13:58:22 -!- molotove1 is now known as molotove 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:04:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:06:39 !tell wheals to make the cancellation of recalling orcs more newbie friendly (or less of a pro tip), maybe make it an ability that has to be invoked multiple times to get all orcs. 14:06:40 Napkin: OK, I'll let wheals know. 14:08:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:09:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:15:02 -!- Critica has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16:22 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:24 -!- EriktheRed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:20:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:20:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:04 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:27:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:28:24 -!- EriktheRed__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:33:27 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:36:17 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:36:49 Napkin: there is on the dev wiki an implementable to give Beogh the following: recall 4/12/all orcs, and a display of all named followers. I plan to try to do this for 0.18 14:37:33 cool! 14:38:08 but.. i was usually happy with 3, sometimes with 5 being recalled 14:38:20 not sure if i would do 12 14:39:01 all in emergency cases, yeah 14:39:46 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:40:23 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:41:16 the numbers are negotiable but 4/12 have the flavor of 4 gospels and 12 disciples 14:41:31 lol :) 14:43:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:44:14 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:45:27 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:45:48 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:45:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:50:11 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:52:20 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:52:22 -!- charmandara has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:36 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:49 -!- mauris_ is now known as mauris 15:07:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:08:23 woah.. those alarm traps are terrible 15:10:26 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:41 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:13:48 the new gauntlets of war tile reminds me less of "gauntlets" and more of "long gloves" 15:14:47 longgloves are long 15:14:58 indeed 15:18:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:18:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:19:17 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:21:48 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23:46 -!- } has quit [] 15:28:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:29:03 !tell Grunt !lg * kmap=gloorx_vloq_grunt_torture_chamber 15:29:03 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:33:55 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:55 -!- Rjs- is now known as Rjs 15:37:02 -!- inire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:42:38 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:49:06 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:51:21 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:52:27 -!- foeb has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:54:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:56:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:57:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:19 -!- Frenoss has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:14:45 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:29:03 did someone reascue demise from his cage? 16:29:54 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:31:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:31:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:35:26 no 16:35:29 he quit the game 16:36:32 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:36:53 !lg demise 16:36:53 335. Demise the Executioner (L25 DDVM of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-17 07:46:39, with 1779940 points after 59424 turns and 1:47:24. 16:37:01 or not 16:37:02 !lg demise -2 16:37:02 334/335. Demise the Executioner (L21 DDVM of Makhleb), quit the game on Depths:4 (evilmike_wizard_prison) on 2015-11-17 04:34:45, with 358684 points after 77863 turns and 2:07:43. 16:37:06 oh 16:37:15 ah 16:41:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48:31 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53:29 -!- xtwv has quit [Quit: xtwv] 16:53:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:57:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:15 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:05:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:08:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:15:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:22:43 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:22:51 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:30:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:31:26 i was going to, but then he quit :( 17:32:31 wanted to get in-principle approval of a fix before i did 17:36:16 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:16 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:58 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 17:38:00 -!- EriktheRed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:40:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:41:29 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:42:25 -!- lvh_ is now known as lvh 17:44:49 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:45:54 -!- KuroiOokami has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:04 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:50:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:52:43 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:54:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:54:34 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:46 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:19 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:58:45 -!- njorth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:59:32 MAX_KNOWN_SPELLS is defined as 21 -- why not 26? 18:00:01 chequers: 24 row terminals 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:11 26 doesn't really make sense either: why not 52? 18:01:13 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:01:20 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.18-a0-117-g77bb7e1 (34) 18:01:38 amalloy: why 21 not 24 then? 18:01:51 are the final three for UI elements 18:01:55 yes 18:02:04 gross 18:03:26 -!- njorth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:04:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:05:14 why stop at 52 18:05:27 have all spells be defined by press two keys sequentially! 18:05:35 now you can cast magic dart by typing zaa 18:05:36 FR emacs-style chorded commands 18:06:14 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:06:51 z meta-a 18:07:05 i knew keeping my lispmachine keyboard would pay off ! 18:07:09 -!- KuroiOokami has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:07:32 zaa-p 18:09:07 did you know: when selective amnesia still existed you could always memorise it, even if you had the max number of spells memorised 18:09:43 selective amnesia was a spell? 18:09:46 so it's probably 2 rows for ui elements and 1 row for selective amnesia! 18:09:47 yes 18:10:04 ha 18:10:10 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:10:45 I think I even found a reference to it the ther day although I don't recall if it was in game or in learndb somewhere 18:10:50 would be a good ??trivia entry if it weren't like 5 years out of date 18:11:57 ??level 9 spells 18:11:58 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:11:58 Level 9 Spells[1/1]: The level 9 spells are Firestorm, Glaciate, Tornado, Shatter, Dragon's Call, and Singularity. 18:12:25 ??level 8 spells 18:12:25 level 8 spells[1/1]: disjunction, death's door, lehudib's crystal spear, summon horrible things, borgnjor's revivification, necromutation, chain lightning, discord 18:12:29 selective amnesia had a lot of good trivia actually, such as it giving you MP equal to the level of the spell you forgot (which then carried over to the scroll for a while too) 18:12:38 v. useful for emergency mp 18:13:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:13:39 !learn edit level_9_spells[1] s/, and Singularity// 18:13:40 Level 9 Spells[1/1]: The level 9 spells are Firestorm, Glaciate, Tornado, Shatter, Dragon's Call. 18:13:50 don't forget to add cblink to l8 18:14:07 !learn e level_9_spells[1 s/Firestorm/Fire Storm/ 18:14:08 Level 9 Spells[1/1]: The level 9 spells are Fire Storm, Glaciate, Tornado, Shatter, Dragon's Call. 18:14:15 thank you 18:14:16 -!- ldierk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:29 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:59 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:16:18 looking at this old handling for spell memorisation is fun 18:16:29 if (specspell == SPELL_NO_SPELL) 18:16:29 goto whatt; 18:16:36 whatt 18:16:49 whatt: 18:16:50 redraw_screen(); 18:16:50 mpr("What?"); 18:16:56 Tha juggernaut hits ye but does nay damage. 18:16:58 mwahaha 18:18:30 1learn add lies 18:18:48 changing a tiny value in a header file and having to recompile the entirety of crawl: just c++ things 18:18:55 ??lies 18:18:55 lies[1/26]: Eustachio says, "Summoning is fun!" 18:19:09 damn 18:19:48 !learn del lies[10 18:19:49 Deleted lies[10/26]: Duvessa is too close now for your liking. 18:20:04 if that change is increasing the cap on number of spells memorised imo it's not a good change 18:20:21 nah, number of spell levels for sif worshippers 18:20:41 mm, not convinced by that one either really 18:21:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:21:59 since amnesia is already basically that 18:22:06 but with some decision-making involved 18:22:47 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:23:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:05 I don't think it's "basically that" -- being able to strategically swap your spells isn't the same as having tactical access to all your spells 18:23:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:30 though if you give sifites a lot more spell levels, they use amnesia less 18:23:33 seems only likely to be actually relevant for silly late-game characters 18:23:41 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 18:23:47 and if it's more noticeable early then yes, it just obsoletes amnesia presumably 18:24:57 also not sure i see a great way of handling the removal of extra spell slots 18:25:41 currently you can just get negative spell slots and it's fine since it can barely happen unless you do silly reskilling things or whatever, but that wouldn't be desirable if you can get a noticeable amount of them 18:25:56 I thought it would be nice to forget *all* spells! 18:26:05 um 18:26:08 !lm * recent god.abandon / god.sif 18:26:08 No keyword 'god.sif' 18:26:11 !lm * recent god.abandon / sif 18:26:13 0/17058 milestones for * (recent god.abandon): N=0/17058 (0.00%) 18:26:22 !lm * recent god.abandon 18:26:23 17058. [2015-11-17 23:07:51] Bcadren the Martial Artist (L13 DrMo) abandoned The Shining One on turn 22094. (Temple) 18:26:32 !lm * recent god.abandon x=verb 18:26:33 17058. [2015-11-17 23:07:51] [verb=god.renounce] Bcadren the Martial Artist (L13 DrMo) abandoned The Shining One on turn 22094. (Temple) 18:26:40 hm 18:26:47 chequers: you want noun 18:26:48 !lm * recent god.abandon / noun=sif 18:26:48 my idea was to keep prompting you to forget a spell until you hit the cap 18:26:48 that sounds like not a good solution to me 18:26:48 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:26:48 0/17058 milestones for * (recent god.abandon): N=0/17058 (0.00%) 18:26:52 !messages 18:26:53 (1/1) Napkin said (4h 20m 13s ago): to make the cancellation of recalling orcs more newbie friendly (or less of a pro tip), maybe make it an ability that has to be invoked multiple times to get all orcs. 18:26:59 !lm * recent god.abandon / noun=sif_muna 18:27:00 320/17058 milestones for * (recent god.abandon): N=320/17058 (1.88%) 18:27:20 anyway I'm not sure what you're trying to show with that query 18:27:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:27:34 "nobody abandons sif so it's not like it matters anyway" 18:27:48 forcing you to forget spells one by one would be functional i guess, but really awkward interface 18:29:48 well we don't really use the frequency of god abandonment to plan how the gods abilities functions 18:31:43 I don't think doubling spell levels works since you nearly remove spell level consideration entirely. And giving fewer spell levels feels like a really weak god power to add 18:32:17 maybe it could be a capstone passive to add 9/27 levels or something 18:33:07 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:33:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:34:08 ??level 7 spells 18:34:08 I don't have a page labeled level_7_spells in my learndb. Did you mean: level_8_spells, level_9_spells. 18:34:39 !learn edit level_8_spells s/$/, controlled blink/ 18:34:39 level 8 spells[1/1]: disjunction, death's door, lehudib's crystal spear, summon horrible things, borgnjor's revivification, necromutation, chain lightning, discord, controlled blink 18:36:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:45:00 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:45:20 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:45:22 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:24 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 18:47:58 -!- G-Flex| has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:16 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49:58 anyone played the new ADOM? 18:51:03 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:51:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:51:59 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:53:55 -!- switchy has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:36 -!- TESTTROG1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:59 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:28 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:43 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:51 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:03:31 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:05:13 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:30 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:10 * Grunt gestures at gammafunk. gammafunk convulses! 19:10:54 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:24 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:04 -!- Final has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:17:04 * gammafunk drinks a potion of heal wounds. gammafunk can't drink. 19:20:39 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:20:42 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 19:22:07 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:30:00 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:04 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:26 -!- Vidiiot has quit [Quit: Don't call anyone~] 19:52:11 -!- G-Flex| has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 19:56:14 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:59:46 -!- mauris_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:56 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:02:57 -!- FireSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:06:12 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:11:07 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:12:08 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:40 would it be reasonable to put secondary weapons (like a hunter's short sword) in slot b so they can be easily switched with '? 20:24:48 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:29:56 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:31 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:31 <|amethyst> Yes, and that's how it used to be 20:31:31 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:31:36 <|amethyst> until wheals broke it :P 20:31:59 <|amethyst> It's just a matter of figuring out how to do so under the current regime 20:32:01 that wheals character, you can't trust him to do anything right 20:33:07 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:33:20 <|amethyst> wheals: I agree about the monster license... AGPL isn't compatible with GPL 2 anyway (but is with GPL 3, and we have the "or later" clause, so it's not undistributable or anything like that) 20:33:49 |amethyst, ah, okies. yeah, I poked around the code and it looks pretty non-trivial to fix 20:34:06 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:34:14 <|amethyst> switchy: as a player you could probably do it with the item_slot option 20:34:34 <|amethyst> but I'd rather not have a default item_slot option if it can be avoided 20:34:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:00 |amethyst, yeah, that seems like a little bit too big of a hammer for the problem to me :) 20:36:01 from https://github.com/crawl/monster/graphs/contributors, the only non-regulars here are kb, eoc (but i was just in touch with him), qoala, and sorear 20:36:04 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36:07 for some reason due doesn't show up 20:36:51 <|amethyst> have you tried email? 20:36:56 <|amethyst> !seen due 20:36:56 I last saw due at Sat Nov 1 01:15:51 2014 UTC (about 1y 2w 4d 21m 4s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Page closed'. 20:37:04 <|amethyst> !seen judebrown 20:37:04 Sorry |amethyst, I haven't seen judebrown. 20:37:19 not yet, wanted to make see if it was worth the bother (especially to the recipient) 20:37:22 <|amethyst> !seen bookofjude 20:37:23 Sorry |amethyst, I haven't seen bookofjude. 20:37:39 <|amethyst> I could have sworn I saw him in here more recently than a year ago 20:37:41 oh yeah, no need to contact sorear since monster-main.cc already has him using BSD 20:37:57 |amethyst: there was the time he showed up about the WoW Nemlex reference? 20:38:02 hard to believe that was a year ago 20:38:14 <|amethyst> the WoW nemelex thing was longer ago than that I think 20:39:10 i dunno, i remember it happening, and i haven't been in -dev for even a year 20:39:17 <|amethyst> ah, hm 20:39:39 !seen due_ 20:39:40 Sorry wheals, I haven't seen due_. 20:39:42 <|amethyst> my crawl development timeline is: 1. "ancient times" (0.7 and earlier) 2. "not that long ago" (0.8 and later) 20:39:57 same, but 0.13 :) 20:40:08 |amethyst: i only realized today that the introduction of depths falls into "not that long ago", even though it was before i started playing 20:40:25 well, not actually; there's ancient (pre-0.11), old (0.11 until i became a dev); recent (since) 20:40:48 <|amethyst> ah, 2014-10-31.log:20:35 " Apparently one of the DC:SS devs showed up in the wowhead.com podcast Wowhead Weekly to discuss the last deck of Nemelex Xobeh (http://www.wowhead.com/item=116138)" 20:40:53 amalloy: You'll never know the joys of old abyss! 20:40:53 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:41:04 <|amethyst> gammafunk: which old abyss? 20:41:12 hyper, one-floor abyss! 20:41:15 also old vaults 20:41:47 hyper, one-floor abyss that spawned a lot of water and lava 20:42:01 it was a pain to navigate, but it had cool visuals 20:42:10 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:43:15 thanksfully 0.10 is still on cszo, so we can revisit those halycon days 20:43:19 *thankfully 20:43:20 <|amethyst> I'm trying to remember what old-old abyss looked like 20:43:29 <|amethyst> %git de23c2d0 20:43:29 07bh02 {kilobyte} * 0.9-a1-910-gde23c2d: A worley-noise abyss 10(4 years, 6 months ago, 6 files, 473+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de23c2d0c8f2 20:43:34 !lg neil min=cv x=cv 20:43:35 11532. [cv=0.7] Neil the Ruinous (L1 TeCj), quit the game on D:1 (dpeg_entry_arbitrary_c) on 2011-09-13 05:17:59, with 20 points after 0 turns and 0:00:28. 20:43:46 good first game 20:43:49 <|amethyst> that was deliberately starting an old game 20:43:53 <|amethyst> !lg . 1 x=cv 20:43:54 1/11533. [cv=0.8] Neil the Ruinous (L3 DECj), slain by a snake on D:3 on 2011-08-10 11:11:11, with 192 points after 2668 turns and 0:06:16. 20:44:17 <|amethyst> or maybe it was non-deliberate 20:44:21 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:44:34 <|amethyst> !lm . abyss.enter 1 x=cv 20:44:35 1/58. [2011-08-21 22:36:13] [cv=0.9] Neil the Stinger (L9 CeVM of Kikubaaqudgha) is cast into the Abyss! (Erolcha) (D:9) 20:44:44 <|amethyst> ah, maybe I never saw really old abyss 20:44:50 !lm * abyss.enter 1 20:44:51 1/164528. [2007-04-07 19:10:44] Lemuel the Frost Mage (L7 MfIE) is cast into the Abyss! (D:6) 20:44:53 !lm * abyss.enter 1 x=src 20:44:54 1/164528. [2007-04-07 19:10:44] [src=cao] Lemuel the Frost Mage (L7 MfIE) is cast into the Abyss! (D:6) 20:44:58 !lm * abyss.enter 1 -tv:>$ 20:44:59 1/164528. Lemuel, XL7 MfIE, T:6640 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:46:04 . . . 20:46:07 !lm * abyss.enter 1 -tv:cancel 20:46:08 1/164528. Lemuel, XL7 MfIE, T:6640 (milestone) cancel requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:46:12 !lm * abyss.enter 2 -tv:>$ 20:46:13 2/164528. cbus, XL24 SpEn, T:95239 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:46:19 lemuel wins again 20:46:25 !lm * abyss.enter 1 -game 20:46:26 Lemuel:cao:20070307144653D. Lemuel the Ice Mage (L14 MfIE of Sif Muna), slain by a swamp worm on Swamp:4 on 2007-04-07 21:52:17, with 50078 points after 37107 turns and 2:36:28. 20:46:29 ha 20:46:37 maybe I should queue that up for oldswamp 20:46:52 !lm lemuel gid=Lemuel:cao:20070307144653D br.enter=swamp -tv:<0:>$ 20:46:52 1. Lemuel, XL13 MfIE, T:27849 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:48:03 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:09 not sure how different this is from modern abyss other than the instant maprot 20:49:00 yeah it's stationary like current abyss 20:49:10 current abyss isn't really stationary 20:49:16 seems to be a lot less variation in the layout 20:49:16 <|amethyst> wheals: https://github.com/crawl/monster/commit/40454ad3 20:49:16 it just morphs in waves 20:49:23 you rang? 20:49:25 watch qw or gw in abyss for signs of that 20:49:26 I'm talking compared to hyper abyss 20:49:26 hi bh 20:49:29 aka Lugonu 20:49:40 new abyss is more or less stationary compared to that one 20:49:55 What do you mean by "stationary"? 20:50:01 bh, we're currently speculating on the differences between oldoldoldabyss and current abyss 20:50:07 care to enlighten us? 20:50:10 sure 20:50:18 old abyss worked by randomly filling every square 20:50:31 I'm referring to terrain changing rapidly, most notably in los 20:50:43 If you walked far enough to trigger abyss recentering, it would mask off a box around you, wipe everything else and then regenerate it 20:50:52 so if you walked 50 squares west and walked back, you'd have different abyss 20:51:05 !lm * abyss.enter 2 -tv:cancel 20:51:06 2/164528. cbus, XL24 SpEn, T:95239 (milestone) cancel requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:51:08 There was no morphing 20:51:08 !lm * abyss.enter 2 -game 20:51:10 cbus:cao:20070307075815D. cbus the Cutthroat (L25 SpEn of Yredelemnul), blasted by a storm dragon (bolt of lightning) on Zot:5 on 2007-04-09 16:26:53, with 685544 points after 103471 turns and 15:09:56. 20:51:18 let's wach oldswamp now!!! 20:51:22 hi Michael 20:51:45 isn't that how abyss works now? if you go 50 west and then 50 east it's all new? 20:51:53 should have started this sooner; screen didn't refresh properly 20:52:06 oh well it's caught up now 20:53:08 this looks roughly as stupid as I expected it to be 20:53:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:53:57 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55:35 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:01 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:56:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:58:01 guys why is the memorized spell cap still 21 20:58:20 selective amnesia is gone, so it can be raised to 22 for all spells and still fit on 24 rows 20:59:35 selective amnesia? 20:59:56 spell form of ?amnesia 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:27 it used to have a spell slot reserved for it so that you could always memorize it given enough spell levels even if you already had the max number of spells 21:00:41 so that you wouldn't get stuck 21:01:22 old crawl logic 21:01:27 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:36 well, without selectie amnesia you wouldn't have been totally stuck anyway, you could always convert to sif 21:03:50 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:25 -!- crawla has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:07:49 heh, old lair too 21:08:07 -!- kreedzfreak has quit [] 21:08:35 I suppose you also could have stepped on zot traps until you got the right div miscast, or tried to find an orange crystal statue 21:08:39 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:45 or grind pan for wucad mu 21:12:00 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:13:12 -!- Guest48471 is now known as fazisi 21:15:01 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:51 doy: what was old lair like? 21:17:02 aside from possibly even more plants/fungi 21:17:13 not sure if that detail from nostalgia was accurate 21:19:48 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:19:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:20:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:20:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:21:42 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:21:54 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:57 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:25 !lg elliptic ely won recent min=dur 21:32:25 7. elliptic the Ninja (L26 VSEn of Elyvilon), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-07-31 03:11:32, with 1683719 points after 65622 turns and 3:52:39. 21:32:37 !lg * ely won recent min=dur 21:32:38 163. Demise the Slayer (L26 VSWr of Elyvilon), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-14 09:46:45, with 1780583 points after 58524 turns and 1:41:13. 21:33:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:34:10 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:36:55 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:17 -!- Warrigal_ is now known as tswett 21:40:22 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:41:20 -!- Gobbo is now known as GoblinBomb 21:44:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:45:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:52:29 old lair was literally "dungeon, except with green floors" 21:52:37 except that it also occasionally generated orc-like levels 21:52:52 man, got a few juggernaut polymorphs with degeneration 21:52:54 fun times 21:53:03 mostly titans 21:54:34 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:57:34 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:58:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:19 gammafunk: old lair didn't have any plants because doy added them! 21:58:25 ... 21:58:32 yeah, the lair layout is mine 21:58:34 (: 21:58:44 -!- blazinghand has quit [Quit: blazinghand] 21:58:54 was the layout like the dungeon layout before your changes? 21:59:00 yup 21:59:14 yeah, the layout itself is pretty nice 21:59:18 the ruining does a good job 21:59:32 levels are often too big, but that's just crawl's general problem 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:31 -!- ZugAddict has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:01:55 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:05:56 -!- Nylidian_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:07:02 -!- foeb has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:07:07 here's my super-terrible idea for getting a short sword into slot b on newgame: https://ptpb.pw/Yh2n/diff 22:08:01 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 22:09:42 i think i'd just prefer a manual check after giving the items that swaps 'b' and 'c' for hunters 22:09:59 that's certainly much more sane 22:10:03 it's ugly but gets the job done a bit more locally 22:10:23 yeah, i don't think we need to introduce string parsing for this 22:11:37 makes sense to me 22:20:14 -!- Sovek is now known as Sovek|BBL 22:20:38 <|amethyst> or to separate giving ammo from giving ranged weapons 22:21:06 <|amethyst> since the problem AIUI is that the weapon of choice is given first, but ammo is given with launchers, so you get the launcher on a and the ammo on b 22:22:07 <|amethyst> probably you'd want to handle thrown ammo like launched ammo there and do it later, so that throwing hunters get their weapon on a 22:22:28 <|amethyst> so split _give_ranged_weapon into itself and _give_ammo 22:23:02 <|amethyst> calling the latter after give_job_equipment 22:26:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:29:53 that sounds alright 22:30:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:36:11 -!- lemonpepper24 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:44:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:44:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:45:06 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:16 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:46:19 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:48:47 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:53:04 -!- lemonpepper24 has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 22:54:50 -!- lemonpepper24 has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 22:55:38 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:58:10 -!- Sovek|BBL is now known as Sovek 22:58:31 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:59:07 that's a much shorter change too 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:05 @??death_knight 23:01:06 death knight (03p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 62-93 | AC/EV: 10/9 | Dam: 28 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 927 | Sp: haunt [11!AM], agony [11!AM], injury mirror [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:01:49 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:02:50 https://ptpb.pw/T2qb/diff something like that, I gues 23:03:04 -!- Barrabus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:03:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:46 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:07:16 !time 23:07:16 Time: Nov 18, 2015, 04:07:15 AM, UTC. The 2015 0.17 tournament ends in 4 days, 15 hours, 52 minutes and 44 seconds. 23:09:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:10:25 -!- bdjewkes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:16:35 -!- Rast-- has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:16:43 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:17:05 !lg * map=wizlab_wucad s=ikiller% 23:17:06 111 games for * (map=wizlab_wucad): 90x old memories (81.08%), 9x (8.11%), 8x the Statue of Wucad Mu (7.21%), 4x the player character (3.60%) 23:17:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 23:17:16 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:07 -!- cr0ne has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:22:15 !lg * map=wizlab_wucad ikiller=the_player_character 23:22:16 4. Ark the Severer (L17 HOFE of Makhleb), slain by an Executioner (summoned by the player character) in WizLab (wizlab_wucad) on 2015-11-14 09:43:16, with 157464 points after 39011 turns and 2:44:24. 23:22:23 !lg * map=wizlab_wucad ikiller=the_player_character-2 23:22:24 No games for * (map=wizlab_wucad ikiller=the_player_character-2). 23:22:25 !lg * map=wizlab_wucad ikiller=the_player_character -2 23:22:26 3/4. heteroy the Brawler (L15 BeMo of Makhleb), blasted by a green death (poison arrow) (summoned by the player character) in WizLab (wizlab_wucad) on 2015-01-27 23:11:49, with 106875 points after 29470 turns and 2:03:56. 23:22:28 !lg * map=wizlab_wucad ikiller=the_player_character -3 23:22:29 2/4. smarmy the Demonologist (L22 MuSu of Sif Muna), slain by an iron dragon (summoned by the player character) in WizLab (wizlab_wucad) on 2012-08-04 16:54:03, with 410474 points after 66997 turns and 7:07:52. 23:22:32 !lg * map=wizlab_wucad ikiller=the_player_character -4 23:22:33 1/4. rjrrt the Executioner (L15 MiBe of Trog), demolished by a hill giant (a +0,+0 giant club) (summoned by the player character) in WizLab (wizlab_wucad) on 2012-06-06 23:56:38, with 84620 points after 26097 turns and 2:50:12. 23:22:50 wizlab of resentful summons 23:24:32 -!- EriktheRed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:24:36 bet the hill giant got confused by wucad 23:24:57 that or the player did and stupidly moved while confused 23:25:32 ditto the sif character? 23:26:00 would stand to reason 23:26:06 I got wucad my current musu 23:26:15 was kind of scared that 15% confuse would proc on me 23:26:32 so I read a bunch of fog to give it fewer chances to try as me and my summons approached 23:26:55 no clarity had spawned, of course 23:27:33 why does the rc file default to automatic skills? 23:27:47 is that perceived to be easier? or maybe that's an old default? 23:28:05 automatic skills is a fine default 23:28:27 because a new player doesn't know how to train skills usefully 23:28:29 manual skill fiddling isn't really especially necessary unless you're trying to do complicated things 23:28:29 minmay: i like how you casually drop the selective amnesia trivia into tavern like it's just something you knew :D 23:28:34 oh. everyone who taught me told me it wasn't good to do 23:28:44 it's not 23:28:48 it's not optimal play, certainly 23:28:58 but optimal play only really matters in certain situations 23:29:03 but for a new player it's better than manual because they just won't touch it, or will make terrible choices 23:29:27 just turn on slings only and leave it that way 23:29:28 i basically always use automatic skill training, mainly because i'm lazy 23:29:36 yeah, letting new players avoid skill selection is a great win 23:29:50 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 23:30:07 my first win was automatic skilling, but I did use the focus feature a lot 23:30:17 yeah, i focus and disable things 23:30:24 right, and disable 23:30:32 but in general, i can just not touch it for most of the game 23:30:35 which is nice 23:31:13 but 19.4 fighting? why 19?! and why .4?!?! 23:31:29 yeah 23:31:33 should have trained to 20.4 23:31:42 * gammafunk rages. gammafunk burns. 23:31:57 you see here a gammafunk golem 23:32:41 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 23:33:20 You are already berserk! 23:39:52 gammafunk comes into view. You fly into a frenzy! 23:40:08 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:10 <|amethyst> switchy: how should you be credited? 23:42:19 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:42:56 |amethyst, just as switchy is fine 23:43:31 it's basically your change though, I just turned words into code :D 23:46:14 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:46:18 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:54 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:50:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-118-g58bf2d5: Put hunters' swords in slot a or b (switchy) 10(70 seconds ago, 1 file, 23+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58bf2d5255b5 23:52:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 23:53:19 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.0-25-gefc9c12: Put hunters' swords in slot a or b (switchy) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 23+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/efc9c1216f09 23:55:11 neat :) 23:59:05 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-118-g58bf2d5 (34) 23:59:21 <|amethyst> BTW, in the future you should use git format-patch 23:59:48 <|amethyst> that way it has your commit metadata, for proper credit 23:59:58 <|amethyst> or a pull request on github