00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:24 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17.0-9-g801d43b 00:06:03 -!- Laraso_ is now known as Laraso 00:10:28 -!- osklington has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:26:26 -!- dob is now known as doubtofbuddha 00:26:51 -!- vev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:11 range check error caused crash to desktop 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10063 by fizbin 00:39:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:59 nice 00:43:16 oh right it's just an assert 00:44:00 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:46:45 -!- twoswords has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:01:56 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:02:17 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17.0-9-g801d43b 01:02:42 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:30 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:04:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 01:05:19 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-62-gc15d2f0 (34) 01:05:33 -!- Maxono has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:06:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:06:47 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:07:11 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:08:48 !tell wheal how could you call it UNRAND_GYRE and not UNRAND_GYRE_AND_GIMBLE?! 01:08:53 gammafunk: OK, I'll let wheal know. 01:08:56 er 01:08:59 !tell wheals how could you call it UNRAND_GYRE and not UNRAND_GYRE_AND_GIMBLE?! 01:08:59 gammafunk: OK, I'll let wheals know. 01:09:03 !seen wheal 01:09:03 I last saw wheal at Tue Sep 9 23:51:47 2014 UTC (about 1y 8w 5d 6h 17m 15s ago) joining the channel. 01:09:47 <|amethyst> I guess he fell into a singularity 01:13:30 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:14:04 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17.0-9-g801d43b (34) 01:14:04 hmmm, so, perhaps the reason that i keep splatting is because playing dgee as a pure caster really isn't a thing 01:15:34 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:17:30 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:18:52 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-62-gc15d2f0 (34) 01:19:35 -!- osklington has quit [Client Quit] 01:20:27 -!- osklington has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:15 one of my Dg ended up as an EE 01:23:19 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:23:22 I think it may have been the DgWn?? 01:23:25 !lg . dgwn won -log 01:23:26 1. SGrunt, XL25 DgWn, T:143251: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/SGrunt/morgue-SGrunt-20131224-235635.txt 01:23:32 yup 01:25:02 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:26:08 Grunt: it happened 01:26:10 .ocs 01:26:10 1. cosmonaut the Grappler (L9 GhGl of Cheibriados), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 halberd) (summoned by an orange crystal statue) on D:9 (minmay_statue_crystal_thing) on 2015-11-09 05:45:31, with 2310 points after 2583 turns and 0:16:23. 01:26:21 happened to a nice player, but I'm still happy about it 01:26:30 .ocs -tv:<2 01:26:31 1. cosmonaut, XL9 GhGl, T:2583 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 01:26:40 aw 01:26:41 lld 01:26:42 rip 01:27:16 dang. 01:27:20 !death gammafunk 01:27:20 Death has come for gammafunk... 01:27:23 !vault grunt_metal_band 01:27:23 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/hell.des#l278 01:27:34 !lg comborobin trne br=depths 01:27:34 1. comborobin the Brawler (L21 TrNe of Okawaru), slain by a hell knight (a +0 halberd) (led by Margery) (kmap: grunt_metal_band) on Depths:3 on 2015-11-07 22:59:45, with 381879 points after 65042 turns and 5:25:53. 01:27:37 nice 01:27:40 oh 01:27:46 from the vestibul? 01:27:55 grunt_metal_band is a Hell entry 01:27:56 oh an entry 01:27:58 nice 01:28:13 a hell entry that actually does something?! 01:28:17 !tell doy as the dgee expert, I say that pure caster is actually the optimal way to play it until at least post-lair 01:28:17 minmay: OK, I'll let doy know. 01:28:34 well, someone removed the occasional hellephant from grunt_hell_horde 01:28:34 so 01:28:38 he didn't say muee 01:28:48 Grunt: don't see why! 01:29:09 I guess we don't place shard shrikes in entry vaults 01:29:14 I mean, XTAHUA turns up in Depths and he's just a hellephant that can't blink <.< 01:29:21 but can't hellephants appear in abyss 01:29:21 @??xtahua 01:29:21 Xtahua (05D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 133 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Dam: 35, 1709(claw), 2007(trample) | 04breaks doors, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(180), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 3799 | Sp: searing breath (3d38) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 01:29:23 @??hellephant 01:29:23 hellephant (04Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 138-198 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic | Res: 06magic(140), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3110 | Sp: fire breath (3d40) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 01:29:25 gammafunk: yes 01:30:33 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 01:30:36 if it were a "branch-specific monster" think I'd understand more, but the rare hellephant is just an ood (an really only technically) 01:30:56 minmay: yeah, i'm usually fine through lair 01:31:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:34:09 -!- SriBri has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:34:11 why does crawl still think that centaur skeletons are so dangerous 01:34:23 doy: those are centaur warrior skeletons 01:34:37 which are different from normal centaur skeletons because ??? 01:34:38 oh, is that what it is 01:34:41 it's still dumb 01:34:44 and should be fixed 01:34:54 someone was working on fixing that (I think it was wheals?) 01:35:03 (or possibly gammafunk) 01:35:13 i looked into it a while ago, but couldn't figure it out 01:35:17 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:35:55 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:36:09 I can probably track down a solution if nobody else figures out how to do it, but a) I think someone has already figured it out b) we're still in the middle of a tournament <.< 01:36:23 and I'm going to sleep now 01:36:30 I don't know, are we? I haven't seen sgrunt playing at all... 01:36:49 not sgrunt, nor hypergrunt, nor deathgrunt... 01:37:26 like, why does the monster list have a different understanding of difficulty than just "xp"? 01:38:01 yeah, our xp values don't always correspond very well 01:38:16 since they're determined by like spells and different monsters will have whatever modifiers 01:38:28 i mean, sure, but it seems like the answer should be to fix the xp values rather than invent an entirely separate system 01:38:36 yeah probably so 01:39:06 we don't have any monsters that are purposefully design as "a trivial bag of xp", only unintentionally designed that way 01:39:13 right 01:40:44 is it really just centaur warrior skeletons that are marked as high-xp? it seems like every centaur skeleton i've ever seen is rated as too big a threat 01:41:23 it's quite possible that you only notice the anomolous ones 01:41:29 (although i don't know either way) 01:42:28 that's certainly possible 01:42:46 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:44:57 someone just informed me that you can have 6 team members in a clan 01:45:01 all this time I thought it was 5 01:48:58 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:54:10 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-62-gc15d2f0 01:58:53 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:42 !calc 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 02:02:04 something about the lack of space in that causes it to take to long 02:02:12 !calc 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 02:02:19 or not 02:03:12 90s limit exceeded: killed !calc 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 02:04:42 90s limit exceeded: killed !calc 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 02:04:52 !calc 1+1 02:04:52 2 02:04:57 !calc 1+1+1 02:04:57 3 02:05:03 !calc 1+1+1+1 02:05:04 4 02:05:06 !calc 1+1+1+1+1 02:05:08 5 02:05:10 !calc 1+1+1+1+1+1 02:05:17 6 02:05:22 ...interesting 02:06:03 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:06:20 weird 02:07:05 !calc 1+1+1+1+1+1+1 02:07:14 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:08:08 7 02:08:14 !calc ((1+1)+(1+1))+((1+1)+(1+1)) 02:08:15 8 02:08:26 !calc 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 02:08:35 heh 02:08:38 so something something backtracking 02:08:48 recursion is the recursion is the recursion is the 02:08:54 it's going exponential when trying to figure out how to do the grouping maybe? 02:09:06 doy: yeah, that sounds probably 02:09:57 90s limit exceeded: killed !calc 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 02:10:37 !cmd !calc 02:10:37 Command: !calc => !lg xyz x=$$*$ fmt:"${x[0]}" 02:10:42 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:08 really? 02:11:12 heh 02:11:52 doesn't seem... too unreasonable? 02:12:06 i sorta expected to find a builtin 02:13:25 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:20:48 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:20:55 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:21:22 -!- osklington has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:22:14 yeah ideally it would be I think 02:22:51 !lg xyz 02:22:51 2. xyz the Martial Artist (L14 DsAK of Lugonu), quit the game on Lair:8 (hangedman_lair_in_review) on 2015-07-24 08:00:02, with 50663 points after 22207 turns and 2:29:22. 02:26:17 yeah, i guess it's probably not smart enough to not do the db query if the values are never used 02:26:19 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:29:26 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:30:34 this naga ritualist just picked up a potion of heal wounds right in front of me, with no other items in the stack. i thought that wasn't supposed to happen? 02:31:03 yeah, if that's how it happened, but are you sure there was no stack? 02:31:41 gammafunk: i was pretty sure, and then when i killed him and walked onto his tile the only other items in sight are his robe and dagger of venom 02:32:29 was this online? 02:32:35 yeah, my cao game just now 02:32:38 maybe the ttyrec will be informativ 02:32:39 e 02:32:45 !lm amalloy 02:32:46 5745. [2015-11-08 21:44:47] amalloy the Basher (L15 DrIE of Elyvilon) pacified Agnes on turn 41137. (Snake:1) 02:32:48 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:32:53 sure. i just logged out and back in, so the ttyrec should end there 02:32:53 !lm amalloy -ttyrec 02:32:57 5745. amalloy, XL15 DrIE, T:41137 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/2015-11-08.20:58:39.ttyrec 02:33:05 !lm amalloy -ttyrec 02:33:05 5745. amalloy, XL15 DrIE, T:41137 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/2015-11-08.20:58:39.ttyrec 02:33:35 i think that ttyrec is an earlier session 02:34:04 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:05 &dump 02:34:07 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/amalloy.txt 02:34:58 !lm amalloy -ttyrec 02:34:59 5745. amalloy, XL15 DrIE, T:41137 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/2015-11-08.20:58:39.ttyrec 02:37:11 gammafunk: it's possible, i suppose, that that wasn't his robe but some other naga's, and the robe was on top of the stack 02:37:30 yeah I'm going to look at the rec in jetty play 02:37:36 but that's possible, yeah 02:37:45 not sure if they can ever not get armour though 02:37:55 otoh mon-gear.cc seems to say ritualists always get a robe 02:38:32 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:58 yes, I see it 02:40:24 A naga ritualist comes into view. It is wielding a dagger of venom. 02:40:29 The naga ritualist shouts! 02:40:29 The naga ritualist picks up a potion of heal wounds. 02:40:32 it did so on the square it was generated on 02:41:03 I think what it is, is that if a monster is on a tile 02:41:07 you can't see what's under it 02:41:17 pretty sure that's not actually true though 02:41:21 if that's the first time you've seen that tile 02:41:42 doy: I don't recall getting messages for items generated under monsters though 02:41:53 what do you mean? 02:42:06 Just that when a tile comes into view and a monster is on it 02:42:20 I've never gotten a "A foo comes into view. You see a bar." 02:42:26 where bar is an item under the monster 02:42:45 you could test it with a vault or something 02:43:03 gammafunk: you can see it, but you don't get a notice about it. i reember once, eg, TLH was sleeping on top of the rune, and there was no message but you could xv it 02:43:38 amalloy: it might be a bug then, where said items are not properly updated in the mapinfo 02:43:42 or something like that 02:43:45 yeah, i'm faiiirly sure that you can always xv items under monsters 02:43:47 and they don't generate a message 02:43:53 but yeah, there might be other issues around that 02:44:20 that "you see a bar" message for items might be in the same codepath as for updating the mapinfo wrt items 02:44:39 hrm let me try a vault 02:44:50 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:45:09 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 02:45:27 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:40 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:49:44 _The orc warrior shouts! 02:49:44 _Found a dark potion. 02:50:28 oh I wonder if my mons detection 02:50:29 in wizmod 02:50:32 e 02:52:32 yeah I seem to get the item message 02:52:37 yet amalloy clearly didn't get one 02:52:42 and also the monster picked it up 02:52:50 ??_ 02:53:02 gammafunk: i think i had already explored the tile, but i'm not sure 02:53:11 had to teleport away from that general area earlier 02:53:18 hrm, but it was a sleeping monster 02:53:21 you'd have seen the ritualist 02:53:28 it was? 02:53:30 yes 02:53:32 i missed that 02:53:32 okay 02:53:39 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53:42 A naga ritualist comes into view. It is wielding a dagger of venom. 02:53:42 The naga ritualist shouts! 02:53:42 The naga ritualist picks up a potion of heal wounds. 02:53:51 they can shout if they're not asleep 02:54:02 yeah but I think... 02:54:03 but you looked at the ttyrec 02:54:06 let me check the ttyrec 02:54:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:54:15 yeah it was sleeping 02:54:22 says in the monster list 02:54:23 okay 02:54:46 one thing though 02:54:53 doesn't _ on a line mean a new turn? 02:55:25 I wonder 02:55:26 i have that off 02:55:32 well for my test 02:55:40 _An orc warrior comes into view. It is wielding a scimitar. 02:55:40 _Found a dark potion. 02:55:45 you know I think what's happening is 02:56:00 the move is somehow getting the orc warrior comes into view or something 02:56:08 and the potion is found on the next turn 02:56:15 in your case it woke up 02:56:18 and then picked up the potion 02:56:28 right 02:56:36 but I don't know why finding the potion would be on the next turn 02:56:38 that sounds like a plausible explanation 02:56:57 perhaps noticing monsters and noticing items 02:57:02 are different stages of teh turn cycle 02:57:14 but it doesn't make a lot of sense 02:57:35 that's an interesting bug though 02:57:45 I might file a report on that one 02:58:30 wonder if it might have even been intentional 02:59:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:31 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:10:11 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21:11 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17.0-9-g801d43b 03:24:00 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:26:31 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:26:36 uh oh 03:26:38 !lg amalloy spsk 03:26:38 1. amalloy the Unseen (L14 SpSk of Kikubaaqudgha), mangled by a deep elf blademaster (a +0 rapier) (created by the fury of Okawaru) on D:11 on 2015-11-03 04:29:03, with 63687 points after 27329 turns and 4:19:41. 03:26:50 such claims that were made!!! 03:27:05 haha, what brought this to mind? 03:27:16 I think I was reading dart board 03:27:21 and I looked at that table 03:27:25 and saw amallow 3 points 03:27:36 gammafunk: it was such a greedy way to die 03:27:59 did you have to god switch to get max points? 03:28:00 i had the game in the bag, and tried to switch to kiku in anticipation of some future time when i might be unable to kill stuff with a qblade 03:28:12 oh, heh 03:28:22 yeah oka wrath is no joke 03:28:29 now if you went the opposite direction 03:28:37 yeah 03:28:38 but then that'd make no sense 03:28:52 i abandoned okawaru once and it was very hard but i lived 03:29:10 this game i thought i could survive it, but underestimated how much stuff you get even at XL14 03:29:23 oh yeah 03:29:31 I kind of didn't realize or process 03:29:40 but xl14 god abandonment in general is pretty nutso 03:29:56 Way back in 0.11 I was abandoning oka after vault 03:30:05 would keep getting oka wrath in my lair:2 stash 03:30:15 titans using my stash items etc 03:30:20 i just don't really have enough experience abandoning gods to know when it will be a problem 03:30:24 when I was sorting my armour into piles or w/e 03:30:40 yeah those kind of high risk things you kind of have to do a few times 03:30:51 c.f. orb ninja 03:31:34 i actually never died orb ninjaing, and it immediately felt less high-risk than killduding 03:31:59 well it's certainly very possible to screw up, let me tell you! 03:32:08 !lg . br=zot 03:32:09 3. gammafunk the Imperceptible (L25 SpEn of Ashenzari), blasted by an orb of fire (fireball) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2015-03-05 02:56:43, with 575859 points after 85638 turns and 10:08:20. 03:32:11 but yes. i just probably shouldn't have tried it in a tournament game where i didn't need it 03:32:17 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-62-gc15d2f0 (34) 03:32:18 yeah two of those are screwing up orb ninja stupidly 03:32:21 right 03:32:26 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:32:51 !lg . br=zot -2 03:32:52 2/3. gammafunk the Executioner (L26 HOFE of Beogh), blasted by an ancient lich (crystal spear) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2015-02-06 01:03:39, with 548824 points after 111285 turns and 11:15:35. 03:32:54 i asked advice about it in ##csdc before i did it, but i didn't wait for answers from players who i actually knew were good 03:33:14 yeah, I mean there's not super a lot in terms of strat but 03:33:24 hopefully someone would have said "XL14? no." 03:33:45 it's mostly be at high xl with consumables, good defenses 03:33:49 blink, etc 03:34:13 trog wrath really wants blink to get away from surrounding berserk things 03:35:45 i actually had all of that stuff 03:35:54 tons of consumables, all the big wands 03:36:09 my last two actions were miscasting blink at 5% fail wihle waiting for tele 03:36:12 it's just low xl, low mhp, maybe not full defenses 03:36:15 heh 03:36:27 yeah 5% blink is not the best blink to have 03:36:51 !lg amalloy spsk x=mhp,ac,ev,dam,sdam 03:36:51 1. [mhp=72;ac=9;ev=35;dam=19;sdam=19] amalloy the Unseen (L14 SpSk of Kikubaaqudgha), mangled by a deep elf blademaster (a +0 rapier) (created by the fury of Okawaru) on D:11 on 2015-11-03 04:29:03, with 63687 points after 27329 turns and 4:19:41. 03:37:08 try tdam :P 03:37:09 !lg amalloy spsk x=mhp,ac,ev,sh,dam,sdam 03:37:09 1. [mhp=72;ac=9;ev=35;sh=0;dam=19;sdam=19] amalloy the Unseen (L14 SpSk of Kikubaaqudgha), mangled by a deep elf blademaster (a +0 rapier) (created by the fury of Okawaru) on D:11 on 2015-11-03 04:29:03, with 63687 points after 27329 turns and 4:19:41. 03:37:21 we didn't even have our buckler! 03:37:25 !lg amalloy spsk x=mhp,ac,ev,sh,dam,tdam 03:37:26 1. [mhp=72;ac=9;ev=35;sh=0;dam=19;tdam=59] amalloy the Unseen (L14 SpSk of Kikubaaqudgha), mangled by a deep elf blademaster (a +0 rapier) (created by the fury of Okawaru) on D:11 on 2015-11-03 04:29:03, with 63687 points after 27329 turns and 4:19:41. 03:37:40 yep, mhp 72 and 60 dam a turn deffo don't mix 03:37:55 !lg amalloy spsk x=mhp,ac,ev,sh,dam,tdam -log 03:37:56 1. amalloy, XL14 SpSk, T:27329: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/morgue-amalloy-20151103-042903.txt 03:38:18 +9 qb at xl14 is nice 03:38:19 rip 03:38:19 rip 03:42:27 -!- Wolfechu_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43:41 -!- vale__ is now known as vale_ 03:43:52 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49:20 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:49:53 !cmd !everyone .echo $(map (fn (c) (.echo ${c}: $*)) (split | $chat)) 03:49:54 Defined command: !everyone => .echo $(map (fn (c) (.echo ${c}: $*)) (split | $chat)) 03:51:24 .echo $(let (chat foo|bar|zot|linley|sigmund) (!everyone I like crawl!)) 03:51:24 ${chat}: I like crawl! 03:51:44 I guess that doesn't propogate 03:52:28 ah, I see 03:52:50 !cmd -rm !everyone 03:52:50 Deleted command: !everyone => .echo $(map (fn (c) (.echo ${c}: $*)) (split | $chat)) 03:59:36 !messages 03:59:37 No messages for TZer0. 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:44 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:05:07 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 04:13:50 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:18:18 -!- Gastrox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:18:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:35:18 -!- Rogan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:38:01 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:38:07 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:43:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:46:59 -!- growf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:55:08 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:56:20 .ocs 04:56:21 1. cosmonaut the Grappler (L9 GhGl of Cheibriados), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 halberd) (summoned by an orange crystal statue) on D:9 (minmay_statue_crystal_thing) on 2015-11-09 05:45:31, with 2310 points after 2583 turns and 0:16:23. 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:20 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:04:58 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:05:21 !lg * recent s=urune o=urune / won -graph:area 05:05:24 14640/1353940 games for * (recent): https://shalott.org/graphs/51fc65f599f8a2b0b1e81f4274de5c438bd2f2a1.html 05:05:35 what's up with the spike at urune=10 there 05:07:48 give up before hell and tomb maybe? 05:08:09 my guess would be pan, but yeah it could be both 05:08:21 pan pursuit is a thing, and hell+tomb are hell+tomb 05:08:56 !lg * recent urune>10 !won s=br 05:08:57 694 games for * (recent urune>10 !won): 194x Zig, 96x Coc, 90x Pan, 75x Dis, 69x Geh, 52x Tomb, 51x Zot, 30x Tar, 9x Hell, 8x Slime, 7x Abyss, 6x D, 3x Depths, 2x Crypt, Vaults, Lair 05:11:55 !lm * rune recent won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver|abyssal s=noun 05:11:56 763 milestones for * (rune recent won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver|abyssal): 126x demonic, 117x magical, 117x glowing, 113x dark, 113x fiery, 39x bone, 38x iron, 35x icy, 33x obsidian, 32x golden 05:12:12 so looks like it's mostly people skipping hell 05:12:14 and tomb 05:14:18 !lm * rune recent won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver s=noun 05:14:19 906 milestones for * (rune recent won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver): 143x abyssal, 126x demonic, 117x glowing, 117x magical, 113x dark, 113x fiery, 39x bone, 38x iron, 35x icy, 33x obsidian, 32x golden 05:14:28 yeah they're not skipping the abyss so much 05:14:38 !lm * rune recent won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver s=noun% 05:14:39 906 milestones for * (rune recent won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver): 143x abyssal (15.78%), 126x demonic (13.91%), 117x glowing (12.91%), 117x magical (12.91%), 113x dark (12.47%), 113x fiery (12.47%), 39x bone (4.30%), 38x iron (4.19%), 35x icy (3.86%), 33x obsidian (3.64%), 32x golden (3.53%) 05:17:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:18:38 !lm * rune current trunk won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver s=noun% 05:18:38 336 milestones for * (rune current trunk won lg:urune=10 noun!=decaying|barnacled|serpentine|gossamer|slimy|silver): 52x abyssal (15.48%), 47x demonic (13.99%), 44x magical (13.10%), 43x dark (12.80%), 43x glowing (12.80%), 41x fiery (12.20%), 14x iron (4.17%), 14x bone (4.17%), 13x golden (3.87%), 13x icy (3.87%), 12x obsidian (3.57%) 05:21:11 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:22:08 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 05:33:38 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:38:36 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:41:48 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:44:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:49:56 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 05:54:07 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:59:18 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04:20 -!- SriBri has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:04:27 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:24:24 -!- pblur has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:46 -!- tengen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:30:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:35:06 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:35:06 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:19 -!- CacoS_sad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:51:54 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:53:25 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57:15 -!- jp2gmd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:59:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:00 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:04:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:11:21 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:28 -!- rj54x has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:21:09 -!- surr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:31:38 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:35:30 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:42:55 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45:25 -!- Chris7 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:57 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:03:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:07:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:07:36 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 08:07:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:25:21 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:30:06 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:44:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:48:41 -!- FiftyNine has quit [] 08:50:04 .jugged t 08:50:05 8. [dam=55;tdam=105] MDvedh the Slayer (L22 HOIE of Beogh), annihilated by a juggernaut zombie on Depths:3 (hangedman_screamer) on 2015-11-08 13:42:41, with 398533 points after 45968 turns and 1:59:01. 08:50:06 .cobbed t 08:50:07 5. zero the Axe Maniac (L26 HOBe of Trog), starved to death on Zot:2 on 2015-11-07 20:32:40, with 546903 points after 59427 turns and 2:33:10. 08:53:00 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:54:31 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:05 -!- sab has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:57:54 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:58:09 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03:27 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:05:11 -!- spinkules has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:35 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:06:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:10:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:13:01 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:10 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:14:49 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:15:03 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:16:35 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:18:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:19:29 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:34:22 -!- CacoS_mad is now known as CacoS^mad 09:37:36 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:51:21 -!- DLuke has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 09:52:32 03Keskitalo02 07* 0.18-a0-63-g789eb7d: Correct and doxygenize a comment. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/789eb7d37c46 09:53:34 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:51 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:28 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:10:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:25:18 -!- Xelif has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:26:29 -!- CacoS^mad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:26:33 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:25 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:31:57 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:36:14 -!- bakadesusenpai has quit [Client Quit] 10:39:05 -!- cosmonaut has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:30 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:34 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:50:43 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:20 -!- CacoS^mad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:19 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:05:58 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:10:43 -!- critica has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:11:29 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:17:24 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 11:20:28 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:22:06 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:22:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:25:29 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:40 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:30:38 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:47 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:56 -!- Kolbur has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:12 hi 11:37:19 ??deck of changes 11:37:20 deck of changes[1/1]: Randomly per-card {deck of battle}, {deck of dungeons}, {deck of wonders}. 11:37:26 ??deck of dungeons 11:37:27 I don't have a page labeled deck_of_dungeons in my learndb. 11:37:41 deck of changes is weird 11:38:06 ??deck of battle 11:38:06 deck of battle[1/1]: Does not exist as an item. Cards: {potion card},{elixir card}, {metamorphosis card}, {helm card}, {blade card}, {shadow card}, {dowsing card}. 11:38:30 <|amethyst> !learn edit deck_of_changes[1] s/, {deck of dungeons}// 11:38:30 deck of changes[1/1]: Randomly per-card {deck of battle}, {deck of wonders}. 11:38:37 <|amethyst> ??deck of war 11:38:37 deck of war[1/1]: Fortitude, Elixir, Helm, Blade, Shadow, Crusade, Pentagram, Dance, Foxfire, Repulsiveness, Potion, Water, Illusion, Elements, Rangers. 11:38:41 <|amethyst> ??deck of defence 11:38:41 deck of defence[1/1]: Randomly per-card {deck of emergency} or {deck of battle}. 11:38:43 it's a random card of 3 kinds of deck of which one doesn't exist as an item, one doesn't exist in learn db 11:39:00 <|amethyst> only two, dungeons was removed some time ago 11:39:02 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:39:26 <|amethyst> "battle" is the cards that appear in all three of war, changes, defence 11:40:05 ah you removed it already 11:41:35 not all deck of battle cards appear in deck of war going by the entry 11:42:12 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 11:44:59 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45:06 -!- mopl_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:46:09 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47:51 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 11:52:16 woah, tripple hit from trapdoor spider? does been poisoned slow me nowadays? 11:54:12 *being 11:55:58 -!- jefus is now known as jefus_afk 11:56:03 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:59:04 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:59:14 -!- paulr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:08 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17.0-9-g801d43b 12:02:54 -!- FireSight has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:07:21 -!- paulr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:36 trapdoor spider (11s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 31-48 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 2008(poison:16-32) | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 225 | Sz: little | Int: brainless. 12:07:36 %??trapdoor spider 12:07:36 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-63-g789eb7d (34) 12:07:56 Napkin: no, poisoned doesn't affect speed 12:08:02 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 12:08:26 Napkin: trapdoor spider is fast but it shouldn't hit you three times in a turn unless you took an unusually slow action (e.g. hitting with large weapon with not enough skill) 12:09:51 had a dagger, cross-trained only by 6.x long blade 12:10:37 '@' not mentioned in the dump? http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.17/Napkin/morgue-Napkin-20151109-164950.txt 12:11:19 did i mess up my config again for @ output not being included? 12:13:01 Napkin: oh, I think the trapdoor spider actually only hit you twice 12:13:38 the messages are just confusing, the "poisons you!" message is part of the first bite 12:13:39 ah, right, second is just the poisoning message 12:14:00 mea culpa :) 12:14:16 !lg napkin x=tdam 12:14:17 1255. [tdam=38] Napkin the Skirmisher (L10 TrBe of Trog), slain by a trapdoor spider (kmap: nicolae_lab_quarters) in a Labyrinth on 2015-11-09 16:49:50, with 4818 points after 9686 turns and 1:09:23. 12:14:28 still quite a bit of damage to take from one of those in a turn 12:14:51 yeah, twice critical (that's what the !! means, right?) 12:16:25 crawl doesn't have critical hits, the !! just indicates a damage range 12:16:26 ??!! 12:16:27 ![1/3]: ! adds an annotation to your current floor. ! (glyph) represents a potion. See ![2] for !'s on hit. 12:16:31 ??![2] 12:16:31 ![2/3]: If you hit something and the message ends with !, that means you did 7-17 damage. !!: 18-35. !!!: 36-71. !!!!: 72-143. !!!!!: 144-287. !!!!!!: 288+; and so on. Yikes! 12:19:42 -!- Poroso has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21:10 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:23:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:30:42 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:05 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:39:23 -!- jefus_afk is now known as jefus 12:42:22 can monsters pick up item from stacks they are standing on (which haven't been seen) while in los? 12:43:36 yes 12:43:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:57 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:27 -!- agentgt has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:35 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:57:16 when jiyva modifies strength can she not take transmutation spells into account 12:57:28 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:42 I go dragon form and she has lowered my strengh to like 4 and 5 so I collapse every damn time the spell wears off 12:57:58 its pretty annoying 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:26 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:01:28 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 13:02:31 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:02:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:07:17 -!- lemonpepper24 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:21 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 13:17:08 -!- spinkules has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18:06 agentgt: you must be in dragon form most of the time for that sort of thing to happen 13:18:45 yes but that happens quite often as dragon form is pretty darn good since its also a regen 13:18:46 also how much strength does dragon form give? 13:18:49 ??dragon form 13:18:49 dragon form[1/4]: You're a dragon now! RAAAAWR! Breathe fire! Be tough (+50% hp) and strong! Gives +10 str, flight, rPois+ rFire++ rCold-, 34% GDR, 16 AC exactly, giant size (will nuke your EV). Base unarmed damage = (18 + str*(2/3) + unarmed_skill). Gives Claws 3 (works for offhand punch) and 2 additional auxiliary attacks, bite and tail-slap. 13:18:52 ah, +10 13:19:08 so when the spell wears off I collapse 13:19:32 so its exacerbated because then I just have to stay in dform all the time 13:20:47 agentgt: jiyva is probably aiming for 9 strength, it shouldn't be going down to 4 or 5 (maybe 7 at lowest)... but that's still too low for dragon form of course 13:21:42 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:21:50 so is it a bug? 13:21:59 I don't have any -str gear 13:22:40 now its not happening because I got a non-jiyva +2 str mutation and stayed out of dform long enough for it to stop 13:22:45 4 or 5 while dragonformed sounds weird unless you are swapping +- str gear in and out 13:22:47 Jiyva takes str gear into account 13:23:10 agentgt: gear and mutations are taken into account, so it doesn't have anything to do with that directly 13:23:15 no I don't have 4 or 5 I have like 9 in dform but when the spell wears off 13:23:18 jiyva just looks at your actual stats 13:23:21 I have like 5 13:23:27 or did I should say 13:23:29 9 - 10 is not 5 13:23:45 yes but for some reason when it drops like that I collapse and go slow 13:23:54 and 5 strength after dform wears off sounds fine 13:24:05 oh 13:24:09 why would 5 str cause collapse 13:24:11 do you have +str armour that is melded? 13:24:18 while in dragonform? 13:24:22 oh I do 13:24:29 I forgot about that 13:24:35 so there is a bug, but it isn't jiyva's fault 13:24:39 Gotcha 13:25:00 well its never any of the gods faults :) 13:25:20 as they are programmed anyway but yes how its not jiyva 13:25:29 the bug is that when dragonform ends, first it reduces your strength by 10, then it sees your strength is negative and marks you as statzero, then it unmelds your armour and gives you +str from it 13:25:58 well it couldn't have been zero but was probably 2 13:26:17 oh 13:26:21