00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:06 so... i'm stuck on a thing 00:01:01 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg . fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * game_key=$game_key s=turn,type))) 00:01:02 9490, 23727, 17921, 34963, 16083, 27178, 36518, 19446, 1677, 14210, 31783, 0, 9594, 9530, 18159, 18713, 2463, 27404, 19211, 28539, 21497, 15334, 34620, 3511, 16611, 15383, 32385, 36523, 10663 00:01:30 is there any way to get more information than just a single field 00:01:33 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17.0-7-gfadd4cc 00:01:42 -!- SriBri has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:01:46 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:01:47 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:01:48 when it's turned into an array like that 00:02:26 i'd expect something like this to work: 00:02:34 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg . fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * game_key=$game_key s=turn,type fmt:'$turn $type'))) 00:02:35 9490, 23727, 17921, 34963, 16083, 27178, 36518, 19446, 1677, 14210, 31783, 0, 9594, 9530, 18159, 18713, 2463, 27404, 19211, 28539, 21497, 15334, 34620, 3511, 16611, 15383, 32385, 36523, 10663 00:02:35 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:02:37 but it doesn't 00:04:22 local build! finally I need to rmeember that core thing for next time so I don't get that shit again. 00:06:11 Experimental race would be; creating a new race (core) with it's list of mutations, apts. etc. then defining any new mutations, then if those new mutaitons have unique effects; place those...just ripples hah 00:07:49 -!- twoswords has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:10:02 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key fmt:'$turn $verb'))) 00:10:03 36523 uniq 00:10:30 sure, but i want all of them 00:10:44 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type fmt:'$turn $verb'))) 00:10:46 9490, 23727, 17921, 34963, 16083, 27178, 36518, 19446, 1677, 14210, 31783, 0, 9594, 9530, 18159, 18713, 2463, 27404, 19211, 28539, 21497, 15334, 34620, 3511, 16611, 15383, 32385, 36523, 10663 00:11:08 well I think you want a different approach 00:11:33 maybe i'll take the approach of "file a bug" 00:11:39 doing s does something to the vars available 00:11:45 yeah 00:11:53 I'm not sure that's even a bug though 00:12:17 but you can definitely do this without doing that s squery 00:12:21 *query 00:12:39 oh isn't there a join thing in lg 00:14:18 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type fmt:'${.} $verb'))) 00:14:19 9490, 23727, 17921, 34963, 16083, 27178, 36518, 19446, 1677, 14210, 31783, 0, 9594, 9530, 18159, 18713, 2463, 27404, 19211, 28539, 21497, 15334, 34620, 3511, 16611, 15383, 32385, 36523, 10663 00:14:28 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type fmt:'$verb'))) 00:14:29 9490, 23727, 17921, 34963, 16083, 27178, 36518, 19446, 1677, 14210, 31783, 0, 9594, 9530, 18159, 18713, 2463, 27404, 19211, 28539, 21497, 15334, 34620, 3511, 16611, 15383, 32385, 36523, 10663 00:14:37 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:38 ah 00:14:44 pfmt 00:14:59 pfmt: For nested (s=foo,bar) queries, the display format of non-inner groups. Defaults to ${n_x}${.} ${%} (${child}), with ${child} being replaced by a comma-separated list of inner-group strings. 00:15:22 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type pfmt:'$verb'))) 00:15:24 ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb}, ${verb} 00:15:30 not verb I think 00:15:32 but child 00:15:37 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type pfmt:'$.'))) 00:15:39 $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $. 00:15:45 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type pfmt:'$child'))) 00:15:45 it's ${.} 00:15:46 br.end, shaft, br.end, ghost, br.enter, god.maxpiety, rune, br.end, br.enter, ghost, br.exit, uniq, begin, br.enter, uniq, br.end, uniq, uniq, br.exit, br.exit, br.enter, uniq, uniq, br.exit, br.enter, br.enter, br.enter, uniq, uniq, uniq 00:15:56 ${.} for outer and $child, yeah 00:16:09 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:16:12 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type fmt:$. pfmt:'$child'))) 00:16:13 Subcommand $(!lm * gid=doy:cao:20151007074444S s=turn,type fmt:$. pfmt:'$child') failed: No keyword 'fmt:$.' 00:16:20 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type fmt:'$.' pfmt:'$child'))) 00:16:20 no don't mix them 00:16:21 $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $., $. 00:16:28 i'm confused 00:16:46 .echo $(let (game_key (!lg doy fmt:'$game_key' -2)) (.echo $(!lm * gid=$game_key s=turn,type pfmt:'${.} $child'))) 00:16:47 9490 br.end, shaft, 23727 br.end, 17921 ghost, 34963 br.enter, 16083 god.maxpiety, 27178 rune, 36518 br.end, 19446 br.enter, 1677 ghost, 14210 br.exit, 31783 uniq, 0 begin, 9594 br.enter, 9530 uniq, 18159 br.end, 18713 uniq, 2463 uniq, 27404 br.exit, 19211 br.exit, 28539 br.enter, 21497 uniq, 15334 uniq, 34620 br.exit, 3511 br.enter, 16611 br.enter, 15383 br.enter, 32385 uniq, 36523 uniq, 10663 un... 00:16:52 like that? 00:17:06 oh, does ${.} require the braces 00:17:10 yes 00:17:12 got it 00:17:46 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:18:36 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:45 hrm 00:18:54 weird how that one shaft milestone has no turn 00:19:01 wonder what that's about 00:19:07 !lm * shaft 00:19:08 191911. [2015-11-08 05:16:11] Disco the Sneak (L3 DsAs) fell down a shaft to D:4 on turn 1591. (D:2) 00:19:15 !lm * shaft x=turn 00:19:16 191911. [2015-11-08 05:16:11] [turn=1591] Disco the Sneak (L3 DsAs) fell down a shaft to D:4 on turn 1591. (D:2) 00:19:31 no, it does 00:19:38 it's just because it's summarizing 00:19:53 it's "9490 br.end, shaft" 00:19:55 as the single entry 00:20:10 oh you mean it's two 00:20:15 it's just confusing because of the formatting (which is why the default formatting uses parens) 00:20:16 so it's really "br.end, shaft" 00:20:21 for the verb 00:20:27 since it's both on same turn 00:21:29 !lm . gid=doy:cao:20151007074444S s=turn,type 00:21:30 30 milestones for doy (gid=doy:cao:20151007074444S): 2x 9490 (br.end, shaft), 23727 (br.end), 17921 (ghost), 34963 (br.enter), 16083 (god.maxpiety), 27178 (rune), 36518 (br.end), 19446 (br.enter), 1677 (ghost), 14210 (br.exit), 31783 (uniq), 0 (begin), 9594 (br.enter), 9530 (uniq), 18159 (br.end), 18713 (uniq), 2463 (uniq), 27404 (br.exit), 19211 (br.exit), 28539 (br.enter), 21497 (uniq), 15334 (u... 00:21:39 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:39 yep 00:21:51 it's two separate verbs on the same turn 00:21:59 yeah that's what I said 00:22:21 ah, i was just confused then(: 00:22:25 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 00:22:59 it was confusing to me since I didn't realize that you could get two verbs in one milestone 00:23:11 no, it's two different milestones 00:23:13 that's what i meant 00:23:30 they are just being summarized, hence the "2x" for 9490 00:23:50 since we are summarizing on turn first 00:23:50 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:36 ok yeah I guess that is the grouping really 00:24:46 they must be two actual entries in the milestones file 00:25:28 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:26:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:32:46 -!- zencephalon has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:33:11 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34:23 um, this is interesting 00:34:29 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:34:54 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:35:37 look at gw's game on cbro right now 00:35:41 (I have disabled the scripts) 00:36:15 what about it? 00:36:34 the entry vault is disconnected from the rest of the level 00:36:35 it requires killing a plant to leave the starting vault, which isn't great 00:36:41 right 00:37:32 I mean, I know it's a vault that's been around for a long time, but that seems silly to me 00:38:08 it has? I thought we tried to avoid/remove such entry vaults 00:38:28 it was modified recently 00:38:33 let me see if I can find both it and the modification 00:38:33 I'm pretty sure qw would suicide if it got that vault 00:38:52 (so would gw, but it takes a long time for it to reach that conclusion) 00:39:18 !vault ldierk_water_garden 00:39:19 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arrival/simple.des#l1424 00:39:22 %git HEAD^{ater_garden} 00:39:22 Could not find commit HEAD^{ater_garden} (git returned 128) 00:39:38 Grunt: DrKe authored the commit 00:39:41 tsk, not putting the vault name in the commit name <.< 00:39:44 %git 6fe47828 00:39:44 07DrKe02 * 0.17-a0-2015-g6fe4782: Tweak an arrival vault 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 7+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6fe47828b43b 00:40:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:40 doy: just installed tig (on ubuntu 12.04). any general tips? 00:41:37 Grunt: it looks like the old version also had the same problem? 00:41:44 it was worse in the old version 00:42:44 ubuntu 12.04, wow 00:42:54 I need to upgrade 00:43:03 but I'm afraid something will break 00:43:17 and I really don't have the time (don't want to make the time) to try to fix things 00:43:30 Grunt: I'd say that the correct fix to the old version was to remove a square of water so that there is always an exit without hitting anything 00:43:35 yes 00:43:42 maybe over christmas break 00:43:51 how old is the vault itself? 00:44:01 (could get slightly fancier - remove more squares sometimes) 00:44:03 let's see 00:44:42 %git 451e6e84 00:44:42 07dpeg02 * 0.10-a0-863-g451e6e8: Garden entry vaults (ldierk), #4561. 10(4 years, 2 months ago, 1 file, 65+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/451e6e8409b7 00:44:43 that old 00:44:57 hm 00:45:51 I wonder why qw has never died to that vault then 00:46:00 hm 00:46:13 it's won offline in that entry vault 9 times 00:47:05 reading the vault, it is sometimes shallow water 00:47:17 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:20 is disjunction going to be made level 7, or will cblink still stay better than it 00:47:34 unlikely that that would be all 9 times though 00:47:51 I'll test qw in it I guess and find out how it copes 00:49:18 oh 00:49:24 ? 00:49:27 CanOfWorms: hey, did you see my merfolk tiles 00:49:39 i'd appreciate feedback on them 00:49:39 the toadstools all died on turn 222 00:49:41 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:43 oh 00:50:03 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:03 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:51:19 oh, not yet 00:51:31 link? 00:51:58 I guess not actually all on turn 222, one died and then the others died as it autoexplored out 00:52:07 but still IMO this is very weird 00:52:44 maybe we just shouldn't use toadstools in random non-fedhas vaults?? 00:52:51 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:54:17 that seems like a plan 00:55:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:18 CanOfWorms: http://imgur.com/a/Swflr 00:55:30 few more to do, and of course they're not final 00:56:11 -!- Maxono has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:41 !tell doy tig is NICE. ty for the recommendation! 01:00:42 johnstein: OK, I'll let doy know. 01:01:10 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:02:37 I'll have to work on my next speciall silly command project later 01:02:37 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17.0-7-gfadd4cc 01:03:03 tig? TIGSource Foums? 01:04:10 not quite! 01:04:17 it's a git "gui" for command-line 01:04:43 I've been using gitk daily at work since about april of this year. 01:05:08 getting back into crawl server maintenance stuff has been annoying without it 01:05:15 tig will do nicely 01:05:40 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-60-g15541d7 (34) 01:10:48 yeah tig seems neat 01:10:56 onto: looks very nice 01:10:58 just tried that and gitk for the first time 01:13:18 I don't think I'll need it; but I guess I can ask any coding issue here? 01:14:08 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17.0-7-gfadd4cc (34) 01:18:03 -!- cosmonaut has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:12 habitualliar: you can ask; you might not get an answer, though :D 01:18:45 ugh, why are merfolk and sirens the wrong colors, whyy 01:18:50 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-60-g15541d7 (34) 01:24:15 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:25:51 messed up some gw code porting to persist and made it want to use crossbows all the time 01:25:54 <.<... 01:25:59 now that it can throw again maybe it will do better 01:29:36 error msg: unlinked item held by monster 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10059 by RoGGa 01:29:49 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:34:56 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:51 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42:52 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:12 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 01:46:30 ely's divine protection doesn't say it costs hunger, but i tried to activate it while starving and it told me i was too hungry. intended? 01:54:14 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-60-g15541d7 01:57:43 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:59:30 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:16 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:03:24 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:27 ....maybe gw will do better....maybe.......m a y b e.... 02:10:37 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:11:26 amalloy: definitely sounds like a bug 02:11:59 ...hrm 02:12:11 man, blowguns are really op 02:12:13 apparently we stopped recording ltyp back around 0.11? 02:12:20 needles of paralysis should probably be removed 02:12:23 since sleeping still exists 02:16:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:16:46 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:20:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:25:54 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:26:24 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 02:26:24 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:28 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:32:24 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 02:38:59 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:40:16 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:11 -!- Gastrox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:34 THere are 1146 unassigned bug reports? O_O; 02:59:44 -!- NeremWorld has quit [] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:51 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:04:52 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:05:31 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:11:23 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:14:15 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:20:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:21:58 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17.0-7-gfadd4cc 03:27:51 -!- Xelif has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:28:04 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:29:55 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:30:32 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 03:31:55 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:33:26 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-60-g15541d7 (34) 03:34:59 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:37:36 is there any actual functional difference between sleep and paralysis? 03:37:42 yes 03:37:45 sleep can wake up 03:37:47 paralysis can't. 03:38:05 sleep is strictly inferior to paralysis, basically 03:38:34 -!- underthemilkyway has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:40:29 that's what i thought 03:40:54 as evidenced by dudes waking up from EH if you cast it at them from far away 03:42:39 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:43:01 -!- habitualliar has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:52:54 -!- bambucha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:54:39 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:56:00 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:55 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:35 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:28 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:18:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:14 -!- buppy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:19:45 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:22 !tell Medar got milestones working for cbro. TY for the reminder 04:21:22 johnstein: OK, I'll let medar know. 04:22:00 !apt HO 04:22:00 HO: Fighting: 2, Short: 0, Long: 1, Axes: 3!, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: 1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -3, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -3, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: -2, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 3!, Evo: 0, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 04:22:08 !nchoice 04:22:14 HOIE: 0 wins || anon: CWZ, L18 End of an Era of Qazlal || ProzacElf: CBRO, L16 End of an Era of Qazlal || Haifisch: CBRO, L15 Severer of Ashenzari || edsrzf: CPO, L12 Cleaver of Okawaru || Sekko: LLD, L12 Cleaver of Beogh || MDvedh: CXC, L6 Cudgeler of Beogh || 4thArraOfDagon: CXC, L1 Chiller of No God || Cacophonie: CBRO, L1 Chiller of No God || Bcadren: CAO, L1 Chiller of No God || DrKe: CSZO, L... 04:22:26 I guess people assume you have to be HOFE if you're a mage 04:22:38 *a HO mage 04:22:48 hey, i've got bolt of cold castable =P 04:23:03 well, kind of 04:23:42 ok, it's not really castable, but i've learned it and am training to get it castable 04:24:41 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:45 although this +6 leather i found helped my decision 04:25:22 !tell amalloy not a bug, abilities that don't cost hunger still mostly require you not to be starving (as with hungerless spells) 04:25:22 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let amalloy know. 04:25:39 !messages 04:25:40 (1/1) MarvinPA said (18s ago): not a bug, abilities that don't cost hunger still mostly require you not to be starving (as with hungerless spells) 04:25:49 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:26:30 it's only things like cancelling flight that are exceptions 04:26:46 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:27:43 also i don't know if people are aware or not but "habitualliar" is bcadren, who is banned from this channel and has been repeatedly evading that ban and pretending to be someone else 04:28:41 so I guess it's not just a clever name 04:28:56 if they're interested in contributing productively that seems fine but they don't have a good record on that and starting this way is not promising imo 04:29:14 I was noticing some similarities in questions, esp re: cbro/dbro 04:29:23 MarvinPA: someone (bh?) mentioned that a bit ago 04:29:34 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:29:39 aha, must've missed it in backlog 04:29:44 ty for mentioning it again. I missed it 04:30:32 oh, it was wheals 04:30:37 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 04:30:38 "You are still officially banned. if you don't want us to kick you out again, I would appreciate it if you kept chit-chat (as the topic says) to a minimum" 04:38:29 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:10 !cmd tstats 04:40:11 Command: !tstats => .echo $(let (arg1 ${1:-16} arg2 ${*:-t}) (let (t (concat $arg2 " !@bot " rend<$(add_days $(!lg * $arg2 1 fmt:"$rend") $arg1))) "Stats after $arg1 days $(concat '(' $arg2 ')'): $(=tstats.players $t), $(=tstats.runers $t), $(=tstats.winners $t), $(=tstats.wins $t), $(=tstats.games $t), $(=tstats.winrate $t), $(=tstats.playertime $t).")) 04:44:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47:31 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:56:56 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:40 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 05:06:57 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 05:24:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:24:18 -!- graymark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:29:40 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:32:35 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:33:16 -!- DiesTooMuch has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:33:43 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:37:49 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:39:55 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:42:10 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:49:57 -!- fotsohgehT has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:08 sup 05:50:32 do you guys really want to delete my ghosts? 05:50:59 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:54:25 Well I think players appreciate not finding ghosts with glaciate etc that were specifically designed to troll them 05:54:38 oh is this like 05:54:41 but we don't have any plans to delete them, no 05:54:45 d:4 glaciate ghosts 05:54:50 I think Lair 05:54:55 mmm 05:54:56 oh nice to hear 05:54:58 it was l2 05:55:02 l1 05:55:09 you get a char to lair, boom haha someone was incredibly humorous 05:55:20 I hope my ghosts can kill someone :( 05:55:24 but what is wrong? 05:55:41 this idea of ood uniqs is for ages in crawl 05:55:55 it's against the spirit of the thing 05:55:56 there's ood, and there's grinder the hellion 05:56:11 yeah glaciate in lair 2 is not a unique we'd make 05:56:18 ??hellion 05:56:19 hellion[1/3]: A very dangerous greater demon. Hellfire, hellfire, and more hellfire, and speed 12 so it often hellfirehellfires. Vulnerable to cold, holy and elec works too. Low hp, dies to a stiff breeze. 05:56:22 @??hellion 05:56:23 hellion (042) | Spd: 12 | HD: 7 | HP: 24-51 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 10 | 05demonic, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 386 | Sp: hellfire burst (3d15) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 05:56:40 i mean it's our fault for not having better ghost generation but it's not great when people decide to make other people have less fun 05:57:06 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:57:24 well, why Rupert is fun, while he is far more dangerous then? 05:58:01 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:16 and there is Erolcha, who will banish you at xl7 05:58:43 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:46 rupert isn't really dangerous and nor is your ghost truthfully; you can simply skip the level. The glaciate ghost is just particularly dumb because someone is making more ruperts than there should be 05:59:19 good thing AKs can't banish when dead 05:59:20 yeah 05:59:40 that's wahy I don't get why people are nmad at me 05:59:58 -!- yottam has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:01 "some random dude got bored and decided people should have to skip more levels of the game" 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:53 I wanted glac, so I literally have no defence 06:01:12 and got dispelled by a random dude just passing by 06:01:45 just clear the lair, return and kill me 06:02:17 I don't know what that's supposed to mean, but 06:02:30 people were mad you were purposefully making ghosts to kill lair players 06:02:32 that's all 06:02:46 are they at least tournament ghosts so you can reap sweet, sweet tournament points 06:03:06 I mean if enough people complain about it, a server admin can just ban you 06:03:09 CanOfWorms, that's the plan 06:03:20 at their discretion 06:03:50 if you want tournament points you should just win nemcombos 06:03:52 -!- SriBri has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:03:54 they're worth way more 06:03:59 then why do you have this "killed by ghost give tourney points" in the first place? 06:04:18 as gamma said, I bored 06:04:38 I think ghost points are at best, consolation points for dead player 06:04:40 s 06:04:50 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:05:15 I mean the most you can get is 22 points 06:05:26 and that's if you die at lvl 27 06:05:31 right, they could easily be removed if that was the real reason for this 06:05:34 and if you can reach lvl 27 you can usually get more points by winning 06:05:43 but I somehow doubt you thought this was optimal tournament strategy for points 06:05:46 yeah I mean if people are making online play a lot less fun in order order to get those points (or using those points as an excuse, more likely the case) 06:05:54 we can remove said points 06:10:27 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:11:00 >or using those points as an excuse, more likely the case 06:11:22 maybe there is a reason you have't seen glac ghost in lair before tournament 06:11:44 but well, thanks for answer 06:11:53 well we have seen those before the tournament 06:12:18 I'm not the first :'( 06:13:03 nope. firestorm ghosts, tornado ghosts, shatter ghosts, ... 06:13:22 any dragoncall ghosts? 06:13:35 or is it just hip and cool to be conjurers 06:13:55 I want to say they get summon dragon 06:14:03 since dcall is not a monster spell 06:14:15 !lg * br=lair killer~~ghost 06:14:16 3576. kylecrane the Transmogrifier (L11 DgTm), blasted by lakren's ghost (bolt of negative energy) on Lair:1 on 2015-11-08 08:02:05, with 14593 points after 15602 turns and 1:15:35. 06:14:24 !lg * br=lair killer~~ghost s=ckaux 06:14:25 3576 games for * (br=lair killer~~ghost): 2279x, 205x blast of negative energy, 177x fireball, 139x bolt of lightning, 109x orb of energy, 94x stone arrow, 90x shard of ice, 66x bolt of negative energy, 40x bolt of magma, 32x bolt of fire, 30x bolt of poison, 27x orb of destruction, 26x sticky flame, 25x by the air, 24x bolt of cold, 20x spray of energy, 14x wavering orb of destruction, 14x iron s... 06:14:26 well, any summon dragon ghosts then? 06:14:37 !lg * br=lair killer~~ghost s=ckaux o=-N 06:14:38 3576 games for * (br=lair killer~~ghost): by static electricity, exploding inner flame, blast of bone shards, foul vapour, great icy blast, by Ozocubu's Refrigeration, by Freeze, icy blast, 2x crystal spear, 2x poison arrow, 3x toxic radiance, 3x great blast of fire, 3x rocky blast, 3x iron bolt, 4x flame, 4x zap, 5x by vampiric draining, 5x freezing blast, 5x by Lee's Rapid Deconstruction, 5x nox... 06:14:44 one glaciate 06:14:49 3 firestorm 06:14:52 2 crystal spears 06:15:11 !lg * ikiller=jorgrun s=ckaux 06:15:12 1002 games for * (ikiller=jorgrun): 880x by Shatter, 32x blast of rock fragments, 29x quarterstaff of crushing, 26x staff of earth, 20x by Lee's Rapid Deconstruction, 4x icy blast, 4x blast of metal fragments, 3x blast of bone shards, 2x blast of crystal shards, 2x 06:15:25 !lg * br=lair killer~~ghost ckaux~~shatter 06:15:26 No games for * (br=lair killer~~ghost ckaux~~shatter). 06:15:34 I remember in my haas game I killed jorgrun without realizing it 06:15:38 !lg * ikiller=lom_lobon s=ckaux 06:15:39 77 games for * (ikiller=lom_lobon): 43x great icy blast, 16x great blast of cold, 15x, 2x tornado, set off by themself 06:15:42 just tabbed into something and then it died 06:15:46 then I read: jorgrun's corpse 06:16:05 !lg * br=lair killer~~ghost ckaux~~tornado 06:16:06 No games for * (br=lair killer~~ghost ckaux~~tornado). 06:16:19 seems it's been glaciate and firestorm only for actual L9 06:16:23 in lair, that is 06:16:27 !lg * br=lair killer~~ghost ckaux~~summon 06:16:28 No games for * (br=lair killer~~ghost ckaux~~summon). 06:16:35 hmm 06:16:39 well that wouldn't be in ckaux 06:16:42 because it's easier to get 06:16:44 ckaux would have the dragon's stuff 06:16:53 like melee, fire breath etc 06:16:58 hrm 06:16:58 ah 06:17:06 !lg * ikiller~~ghost killer~~dragon 06:17:08 236. PISS the Champion of Chaos (L15 HOFi of Makhleb), slain by a spectral golden dragon (called from beyond by a ghost crab) on Swamp:3 on 2015-11-03 05:54:48, with 83797 points after 22597 turns and 0:45:57. 06:17:24 !lg * cikiller=player_ghost 06:17:25 150128. SorcV the Shooter (L3 MuHu), mangled by ablauf's ghost on D:3 on 2015-11-08 11:14:39, with 56 points after 1251 turns and 0:04:27. 06:17:32 with vehumet's wizardry, is it actually faster to get glaciate online than dragon's call? 06:17:35 !lg * cikiller=player_ghost killer~~dragon 06:17:37 227. Dragonjude the Skirmisher (L3 DrWn), slain by Dragonjude's ghost on D:4 on 2015-11-02 16:58:41, with 56 points after 976 turns and 0:07:04. 06:18:00 !lg * cikiller=player_ghost killer!~~ghost killer~~dragon 06:18:02 you probably would not even find dragocall in lair 06:18:02 1. lungtoast the Eclecticist (L18 MuWz of Sif Muna), blasted by a dragon (blast of flame) (summoned by Kipster's ghost) on Elf:5 on 2011-12-24 02:05:15, with 192971 points after 83408 turns and 13:13:08. 06:18:11 there we go 06:18:13 but from 2011 06:18:17 wow 06:18:19 before dcall existed 06:18:54 !lg * cikiller=player_ghost br=lair max=dam x=dam,sdam,ckaux 06:18:56 3496. [dam=763;sdam=0;ckaux=] heteroy the Basher (L11 MDCK of Xom), annihilated by hayenne's ghost on Lair:5 on 2009-04-22 05:01:56, with 14215 points after 12573 turns and 1:10:49. 06:19:05 sounds like a bug 06:19:08 !lg * cikiller=player_ghost br=lair max=dam x=dam,sdam,ckaux current trunk 06:19:10 472. [dam=59;sdam=59;ckaux=iron shot] digdugdiggy the Thaumaturge (L13 DrCj of Vehumet), blasted by gressup's ghost (iron shot) on Lair:3 on 2015-05-03 05:06:41, with 44489 points after 33496 turns and 1:48:57. 06:19:25 also is there any reason disjunction's still at level 8? 06:19:56 as opposed to a lower level? 06:20:00 yeah 06:20:02 like 7 06:20:07 It's a really strong effect 06:20:42 as strong as cblink? 06:20:51 well I guess it's good for the orb run 06:21:02 well in a single turn perhaps not 06:21:05 but it lasts for a duration 06:21:06 and a few other moments 06:21:15 I don't recall it lasting very long 06:21:19 like 06:21:24 sure, it lasts a number of turns 06:21:26 10ish turns? 06:21:40 yeah but compare that to casting cblink like 2-3 times 06:21:44 for 16-24 mp 06:21:51 true 06:22:06 I mean ~*~*~*~Translocations~*~*~*~ what can you say, I guess 06:22:46 you can still use it very stupidly and die 06:22:48 like I did 06:22:56 well the commit for moving cblink to level 8 says it should be used more now that cblink is level 8 but if you can get disjunction castable, you still get cblink 06:22:58 no idea why I didn't just walk out with it active 06:23:31 yeah assuming you got the spell levels, that's true 06:23:40 I think they're both in the ...record book 06:23:43 yeah 06:23:45 ??akrashic 06:23:46 I don't have a page labeled akrashic in my learndb. Did you mean: akrasia, akrasiac. 06:23:47 they're only in those 06:23:49 akashic 06:23:50 ??akrasiac 06:23:51 akrasiac[1/2]: Person who suffers from akrasia. 06:23:54 haha 06:23:58 ??akrasiac[2 06:23:58 akrasiac[2/2]: Including practically all the folks on this channel. 06:24:06 ??akashic_record 06:24:06 akashic record[1/1]: Dispersal, Controlled Blink, Malign Gateway, Disjunction, Singularity. Requires 6 spellcasting and 10 translocations to memorize spells out of this book. 06:24:28 that condition is gone, right? 06:24:33 not to mention singularity 06:24:36 ??highlevel 06:24:36 highlevel book[1/1]: "This book is beyond your current level of understanding." Annihilations, Grand Grimoire, Necronomicon, Akashic Record. All require Spellcasting 6, 10 to read (or, in the case of the Necronomicon, worshipping Kiku). Being skill drained/ash wrath drained below the requirements will prevent you from read-IDing the book. 06:24:45 yeah 06:24:47 all the high level conditions no longer exist 06:25:48 I was also surprised that aura of abjuration has noise 06:26:17 I was planning on cblink stabbing asmodeus and put it up as backup if he summoned fiends but they woke up :( 06:26:23 I had to use my backup plan of needling everyone 06:26:48 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:27 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:29:21 -!- fotsohgehT has left ##crawl-dev 06:39:42 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:54 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:50 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:07:48 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17:47 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:21:01 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:21:26 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:39 -!- spinkules has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:26:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:28:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:29:27 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:14 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:34:26 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:49:33 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:50:04 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 07:52:31 -!- emikaela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:54:03 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27:41 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:31:59 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:36:49 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:39:46 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 08:49:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:02 Vaults (0/5) D:12 D:13 08:54:32 any idea what could cause this? it apparently wasn't a mimic and D:12 isn't a valid vaults entrance depth anyway 08:54:49 (not my own game and it was corrected when the player entered V) 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:28:09 -!- Torax__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:28:23 -!- spinkules has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:35:38 is PF's new box of beasts in 0.17? 09:40:38 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:46:54 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:45 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:50:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:38 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:57:04 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:04:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:05:03 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:06:59 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08:55 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:04 kvaak: If you mean "produces mutant beasts instead of chimeras" yes. 10:09:19 -!- reaverb is now known as Guest96194 10:09:20 yeah I just nuked the old learndb entries 10:09:43 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:09:58 -!- Guest96194 is now known as reaverb 10:19:40 it looks like Ozo's still hurts friendlies under Fedhas 10:19:53 I assume that's unintentional... 10:21:23 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:21:41 are you sure? 10:22:03 I thought fedhas only protected from targeted stuff 10:22:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:52 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:30:06 -!- Wolfechu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:31:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:31:28 he protects from aoe 10:32:30 if he protects from firestorm I'd expect him to protect from ozo's too 10:35:16 -!- anotak has left ##crawl-dev 10:38:33 elliptic: it gives you a warning if you try to cast Ozo's with any plant in sight 10:38:44 Fedhas protects from clouds 10:38:46 and I thought fireball 10:38:52 those are targetted spells 10:39:02 elliptic: oh, I see what you're saying 10:39:21 So Fedhas doesn't protect from Ozo's, Shatter, and Toxic Radiance, not that the latter does anything to plants. 10:39:43 elliptic: are you saying that was a deliberate choice? 10:41:02 possibly? it doesn't seem unreasonable to me at least 10:41:50 seems odd that Fedhas would protect from firestorm and not Ozo's, IMO... I'm not sure what the flavor reason would be 10:41:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:42:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42:57 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 10:43:52 well this isn't a flavor reason but not being able to use ozo's, shatter etc with allies has always been a relevant drawback of those spells compared with stuff like fireball and firestorm 10:44:07 which can be used with allies even without fedhas 10:44:39 or rather, you can only use those spells with specific allies who are immune to their effects 10:45:37 so I sort of see that as part of the design of those spells, and I don't think fedhas has to protect plants from absolutely everything 10:46:05 I don't care that much and I don't know what was actually intended, but I don't think it is so clear that the current behavior is unintended 10:47:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:07 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:16 dang, gw ran successfully overnight 11:03:31 that has never happened before 11:04:55