00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:45 n.b. mapstat might be a bit broken right now 00:02:53 It was failing to generate output when I ran it before 00:03:43 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:16 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-46-g45ca8e4 (34) 00:07:50 gammafunk: Yeah rc is updated. 00:09:51 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:13:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:13:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:14:43 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-b1-36-g7b1967c 00:17:39 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:43 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:22:20 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:22:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:08 !tell greensnark Can you add 0.17 milestones/logfiles from cwz to Sequell? The URL is http://webzook.net:82/0.17/ 00:27:09 gammafunk: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 00:27:28 -!- peter3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:27:29 !lg * cwz cv=0.17-a 00:27:30 87992. Fabulator the Slasher (L3 HEFi), slain by a worm on D:2 on 2015-10-30 19:55:57, with 39 points after 848 turns and 0:03:48. 00:27:32 !lg * cwz cv=0.17-a x=cv 00:27:33 87992. [cv=0.17-a] Fabulator the Slasher (L3 HEFi), slain by a worm on D:2 on 2015-10-30 19:55:57, with 39 points after 848 turns and 0:03:48. 00:27:37 gammafunk: btw, any thoughts about the amulet idea I mentioned earlier? 00:27:39 !lg * cwz cv=0.17-a x=v 00:27:40 87992. [v=0.17.0-a0] Fabulator the Slasher (L3 HEFi), slain by a worm on D:2 on 2015-10-30 19:55:57, with 39 points after 848 turns and 0:03:48. 00:28:31 It gives AC for each aux slot that the species can use but where nothing is equipped there? 00:28:37 Yes. 00:28:54 it was to be ac+3 for each? 00:29:33 That was my first stab at a reasonable number, might be too high. 00:29:46 But if it's going to be tested it should be biased toward overpowered so players use it. 00:30:30 so I guess you're thinking, people wear this, they don't have to enchant their auxes? 00:30:33 <|amethyst> what about naga and centaur? 00:30:42 but then they lose any ego from auxes and they lose use of other amulet 00:30:46 s 00:31:28 <|amethyst> it sounds like something really good to find early game 00:31:36 yeah 00:31:37 <|amethyst> and not useful for very long 00:31:47 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:31:54 <|amethyst> since +3 AC is what you'd get from having those slots filled and having no armour skill 00:31:56 gammafunk: Yeah, also I was thinking that you'd take if off late game after you find good aux armour. 00:32:01 well it does prevent you from having to enchant any auxes, but enchanted aux items aren't al that hard to find 00:32:44 <|amethyst> I guess if you have an aux from that slot it's useful 00:32:56 I guess I'd find this, be able to enchant a body armour by holding onto my ?ea 00:33:11 but otoh wouldn't I be smarter ot just use my aux, enchant it, use a better ammy I found 00:33:19 early on it'd be really strong 00:33:28 centaur/naga getting AC from barding slot seems clearer to me. 00:34:57 assuming the variance in early game power level, if that's a problem, is solved, do you think it's a interesting decision? 00:35:26 I like the idea it's very good early on, but as the effective ac you get by using it goes lower you have to decide when to switch. 00:35:55 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:39:43 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:40:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:43:00 Perhaps a ramp-up period long enough to last a couple D floors would work to reduce the early game spike, also discourages swapping. 00:44:22 reaverb: well there's not really an interesting decision early on, since you're just wearing this to get 8ac (if it gave +2) or 12 ac (if it gave +3), you just wear it to get a massive bonus, but then this amulet gives a strategic benefit 00:44:26 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:44:32 well 00:44:48 that's not really true I guess 00:44:54 you can just enchant your body armour 00:45:45 it's a really big ac bonus early on without much decision making or drawback at all really 00:45:58 with heavy armour (to get massive ac like that), you need the str 00:46:05 and there are other compromises 00:46:13 but early on how many amulets have you found? 00:46:22 lear's huberk: the amulet 00:46:25 not many, so it's not like you're going to have a better amulet you could be using 00:46:27 hauberk* 00:47:48 I guess what it'd make me do is enchant my body armour earlier 00:47:53 the first really decent piece I find 00:48:08 as opposed to enchanting my auxes 00:48:36 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:09 -!- vwvwvwv has quit [] 00:50:14 The decision point isn't suppose to be when you *first get it*. It's when you have a couple of pieces of aux armour and a couple alternative amulets. "Hmm I get 9 ac now. Is that with switching to faith? oh I found a hat, now it's 7 ac" etc. 00:50:30 +3 ac is probably not the best number. 00:52:48 This reminds me that rings of protection/evasion could maybe be nerfed, +6 ac isn't that much less than +8 >_> 00:53:32 imo they should just always be +4 00:53:58 all the randomization does is make you pick up new ones to compare them 00:54:08 that's reasonable. 00:54:16 I don't think it's ever going to be an actually interesting decision later on 00:54:26 the later on you get, the less interesting armour decisions get in general 00:54:31 you have fewer reasonable outcomes 00:54:41 or reasonable choices, rather 00:55:13 when you first pick it up there's no other amulet and no problem with using it, so it's the same as any other amulet (excluding faith to some degree) 00:55:51 but if there's an interesting decision to be had it's probably when you've really not got much enchantment in anything 00:56:17 all I'm trying to think of is how I'd actually use the thing 00:56:51 I don't really see how it'd fundamentally change my armour choice, but it'd fundamentally change what I enchanted probably 00:57:03 hm, who was asking me for a generic rune tile 00:57:08 I did 00:57:11 ok 00:57:23 on thing is that you can feel more comfortable in lighter armour, but that's basicaly just "it's like a strong ring of prot" 00:57:28 and we do have rings of prot 00:58:03 I'd imagine ac+2 per slot is the reasonable amount for it to grant, so fully enchanted aux is a bit better in the slot 00:58:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:58:52 amulet of nudity 00:58:59 Hmm. 00:59:32 I guess I don't see how it'd change what armour I wear, but if you specficially want it to affect what amulet is worn 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:08 I guess I'd be like, "did I find all my aux slots (I probably did)? If yes, then it's fine to swap to any strong amulet I've found, since I'm losing maybe 2-4ac" 01:01:13 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:01:52 if it were +3 per slot then it's a bit different I guess 01:02:01 but then it's a ****-ton of ac early on 01:02:55 ontoclasm: and if you do make one, it might even show up in a fancy new tournament banner page (one two or three depending on what banner tiers you have)! 01:03:01 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03:01 what I'm getting from this is that "the situations where you have another amulet, this gives enough AC to be competitive with other amulets, but it's not obviously superior are rare". 01:03:02 that was just an idea we had 01:03:30 The "change my enchant targets" was something I noticed but wasn't what I was trying to do with the design. 01:03:43 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-b1-36-g7b1967c 01:03:44 yeah that's kind of what I'd guess, reaverb 01:04:30 maybe there is some conditional-ac-granting-amulet design that'd be good through 01:04:31 an amulet that converts some incoming damage into glow 01:05:16 -!- kaiza has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06:58 * gammafunk zaps a wand. ontoclasm evaporates and reforms into a Djinn! 01:08:21 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-46-g45ca8e4 (34) 01:09:04 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:09:11 -!- Kramin has quit [Client Quit] 01:10:17 or: an amulet that grants AC that builds up as you take damage 01:10:45 as in, normally its +0 but if you're getting the crap kicked out of you it goes up 01:13:05 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:15:12 ??tension 01:15:12 tension[1/3]: dangerousness of everything in LOS, checks # of monsters, monster experience value, monster hp (almost-dead monsters are of little threat), monster enchantments (confusion, haste, berserk, might, etc.), player current hp, whether you're in the abyss (*3/2 tension) 01:18:12 noooo, not tension 01:18:17 tension is bad 01:19:29 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-46-g45ca8e4 (34) 01:25:26 Xom titers. ontoclasm is slowing down. ontoclasm begins turning into stone. 01:25:41 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:26:55 !lg * gham won 01:26:56 12. cosmonaut the Middleweight Champion (L27 GhAM of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-30 17:51:50, with 20765561 points after 73423 turns and 5:55:08. 01:27:19 oh hey, cosmonaut 01:27:42 hmm, tournament? 01:27:53 Napkin_: hi! yes 01:27:56 ??tournament 01:27:56 I saw gham guide on learndb :) 01:27:56 tournament[1/5]: The 0.17 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Nov 6 to 20:00 UTC Nov 22. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.17/ 01:28:06 cosmonaut: that's funny 01:28:08 ??gham 01:28:08 badwiki gham guide[1/1]: THE ULTYMATE RESISTANCES OF THE GHOUL COMBINED WITH POWYRFUL CLAW ATTACKS + RANGED SUPERIORITY FROM OF THE ARKANE MARKSPERSON MAKES THE GHAM THE POWER CLASS OF 0.8, 0.10, AND 0.11. GO FOR SPLINT MAIL FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION + FLEXIBILITY // - THIS GUIDE BY SLAUGHTRO POWER CRAWLMASTER X 01:28:33 it is a possible nem choice that could be chosen (sploilers...) 01:33:09 could gham be the power class of 0.17 as well??? 01:34:16 only if it did not become the power class in version 0.16 01:34:27 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:34:35 because then it'd have to be the power class of 0.16, 0.18, and 0.19 by definition 01:35:22 !lg * gham ((0.16||0.17)) s=score -graph 01:35:23 though with splint mail gone we're just not sure any more 01:35:23 69 games for * (gham ((0.16 || 0.17))): https://shalott.org/graphs/06e800b5a51f577977469212c6ec0625f9da6f16.html 01:37:20 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:44:44 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:45:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:28 -!- Gilihad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:50:19 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:53:39 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-46-g45ca8e4 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:04 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:07:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:09:18 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:11:49 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:56 -!- slitherrr has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:46 hey, so boots of flying, should ru's evo sacrifice make them not able to be activated? because that puts it in a weird situation where wear-iding them lets you fly, but if the flight ever gets turned off for some reason, they're suddenly just boots 02:34:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:42 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:36:46 probably sacrifice should just make them not work at all? what does it do currently? 02:38:11 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:38:53 !bug 9924 02:38:53 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9924 02:39:29 ah ha 02:41:10 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 02:41:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:41:28 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:42:00 !tell Lasty Any objections to applying the patch from https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9924 (assuming it works as intended)? 02:42:01 Medar: OK, I'll let lasty know. 02:42:27 Anyone else feel free to answer that too... 02:46:30 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:48:18 Medar: why stop boots of flying from letting you fly, but let boots of running keep making you run fast? 02:53:22 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 02:54:07 well, you do always want to run fast, you don't always want to fly. so i guess the question is more if it's ok for it to be the item with a not-always-good effect that is activated/deactivated through (W)ear/(R)emove 02:54:20 or the one clothing item like that anyway 02:56:28 amalloy: one is evocable item and one is passive item, like ring of stealth vs. ring of invis. only in this case there is an interface improvement to automatically activate it 02:57:25 that even remembers the last flying state, if you take them off 02:59:52 it's not just that there's a way to automatically activate it, because it's indefinite-extent when you do. you could instead view it as being another passive item, only in this case there is an option to temporarily disable the effect 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:25 well there is an option to permanently disable the effect at very least, but sure 03:02:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:02:47 guess I don't have too strong of an opinion against fixing it the other way, forcing players with the sacrifice to always fly 03:03:21 then for that item it's mostly just "sacrifice convinient interface" 03:03:35 but maybe that's better than the alternative 03:04:17 Medar: more than just interface, if they have artefact boots of flying that they otherwise want to wear in a titan-infested area 03:04:48 do artefacts boots of flying exist? 03:05:16 yes 03:05:30 yeah, but it's the usual +Fly artp 03:05:33 huh, don't remember seeing any 03:05:37 hrm 03:05:38 oh, is it? 03:05:45 yeah +fly does for sure 03:05:59 I too don't recall seeing many 03:06:01 i thought i had worn Fly boots 03:06:05 but of course they'd be rare 03:06:07 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:08 even if they do, that is a very uncommon situtation 03:06:34 Medar: okay, but even for normal +2 boots of flying the multi-turn takeoff is a danger 03:06:42 if a titan comes on screen you can't stop flying 03:06:53 sure 03:07:04 but like, there is a reason we didn't just make boots of flying passive 03:07:26 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:08:18 and I would think the same reasoning applies, but maybe it's ok just in this one specific case 03:20:16 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-b1-36-g7b1967c 03:30:26 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-46-g45ca8e4 (34) 03:31:30 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:24 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:33:34 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-b1-36-g7b1967c (34) 03:34:00 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:34:21 -!- Napkin_ is now known as Napkin 03:34:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 03:42:13 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:42:34 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:43:35 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:51:53 Unknown option: -zotdef 03:51:53 Napkin: You have 41 messages. Use !messages to read them. 03:51:58 did it get removed? 03:52:14 gammafunk? 03:52:38 Napkin: yeah 03:52:41 we removed zot def 03:52:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52:45 in 0.16 03:52:52 er, wasn't that a 0.16 thing 03:52:54 ??zotdef 03:52:54 zot defense[1/4]: http://sites.google.com/site/crawlvariations/ Turned Crawl into a tower defense game; coded by Chapayev. Play at akrasiac and have fun! Now play at develz instead for an updated version! Mercifully removed in 0.16. 03:52:56 yes 03:53:18 oh 03:53:19 ok 03:53:23 thanks 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:47 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:02:53 ok, i think 0.17 is installed 04:05:13 kornbluth still down? 04:13:15 hmm, gretell can't connect 04:13:24 anyone had a similar problem? 04:13:31 to irc, i mean 04:14:50 oh 04:15:31 @??goblin 04:15:31 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-6 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human. 04:15:39 Napkin: how do you mean? 04:15:48 --- 04:15:48 Trying to connect to server barjavel.freenode.net 04:15:48 Server error occurred! Closing Link: crash.develz.org (Connection timed out) 04:15:48 Lost connection to server barjavel.freenode.net. 04:15:48 Trying to connect to server barjavel.freenode.net 04:15:51 --- 04:15:57 any protocoll changes? 04:16:34 telnet looks ok... 04:16:36 --- 04:16:37 crawl@crash:~> telnet barjavel.freenode.net 8001 04:16:38 Trying 195.154.200.232... 04:16:38 Connected to barjavel.freenode.net. 04:16:40 Escape character is '^]'. 04:16:42 :barjavel.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Looking up your hostname... 04:16:45 :barjavel.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Checking Ident 04:16:47 :barjavel.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Found your hostname 04:16:50 :barjavel.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Got Ident response 04:16:52 --- 04:17:04 unfortunately I have no idea about this perl irc module 04:17:09 .. greensnark? :D 04:17:14 or |amethyst 04:17:18 your baby is broken! 04:18:36 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:21:37 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:32:23 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:35:20 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:28 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:44:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:45:15 Napkin: I don't see any relevant changes to sizzell in a long time 04:46:07 !cdo 04:46:08 robbje (L21 @ Spider:3, T:77999), Elynae (L9 @ D:7, T:11213), comborobin (L9 @ D:7, T:6244), vogonpoet (L5 @ D (Sprint), T:202) 04:46:26 Napkin: Did you try running two instances at the same time? 04:48:48 mmh? 04:49:01 you mean if there's a zombie in the background? 04:49:17 heh 04:49:31 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:49:53 someone started it outside the screen - and i didn't check 04:50:01 good catch, thanks, Medar 04:50:28 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:47 :) 04:51:53 !time 04:51:54 Time: Nov 06, 2015, 09:51:52 AM, UTC. The 2015 0.17 tournament starts in 10 hours, 8 minutes and 7 seconds. 04:54:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:54:11 -!- Voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54:58 @version 04:55:10 |version 04:55:11 trunk: 0.18-a0-46-g45ca8e4; 0.17: 0.17-b1-36-g7b1967c; 0.16: 0.16.2-12-gd0ad4c3; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2 04:57:34 %version 04:57:35 trunk: 0.18-a0-46-g45ca8e4; 0.17: 0.17-b1-36-g7b1967c; 0.16: 0.16.2-12-gd0ad4c3; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 04:57:38 !version 04:57:40 trunk: not found; 0.17: not found; 0.16: not found; 0.15: not found; 0.14: not found; 0.13: not found; 0.12: not found; 0.11: not found; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 04:57:47 heh 04:58:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05:08 -!- torax_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:09:20 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:10:09 -!- Silas is now known as Guest21358 05:10:10 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:10:45 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:11:57 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:12:10 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:14:16 ?? 05:14:18 ??| 05:14:19 superb item[1/1]: In {des} syntax, an item with the same quality as {good_item} but with the following type dist.: 2/7 weapon, 1/7 armour, 1/7 jewellery, 1/7 book, 1/7 misc, 9/70 staff, 1/70 rod. The | glyph is defined as this by default. 05:14:26 ??eksell 05:14:26 Eksell[1/1]: The cxc announcement bot, which uses | as a prefix. 05:15:41 !tell greensnark Can you also add CDO 0.17 logfile/milestones now that those are available? Thanks. 05:15:41 gammafunk: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 05:16:02 now I can revert that lovingly crafted tourney page html 05:16:43 looks like cwz got fixed too 05:16:52 is that in the bot yet? 05:17:00 !lm * cwz 0.17 05:17:00 No milestones for * (cwz 0.17). 05:17:04 !lm * cxc 0.17 05:17:04 No milestones for * (cxc 0.17). 05:17:38 Napkin: is the http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.17.sh url something that you have to set up (for CDO tourney rcs)? 05:18:20 !lm * cxc v=~0.17 05:18:21 302717. [2015-11-06 10:17:33] Chiseanne the Vexing (L6 FoEn of Makhleb) became a worshipper of Makhleb on turn 3304. (D:3) 05:18:24 !lm * cwz v=~0.17 05:18:25 448813. [2015-10-30 20:00:01] Fabulator the Slasher (L2 HEFi) (D:2) 05:18:26 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:18:40 erm, whatever 05:18:41 !lm * cwz v=~0.17 x=vlong 05:18:42 448813. [2015-10-30 20:00:01] [vlong=0.17-a0-2231-gd80ca38] Fabulator the Slasher (L2 HEFi) (D:2) 05:18:55 !lm * cwz v=~0.17 max=vlong 05:18:56 448813. [2015-10-29 21:21:19] pes1 the Cutter (L5 VSBe of Trog) killed the ghost of zighart the Firebug, a weakling DEFE on turn 2663. (D:4) 05:19:01 !lm * cwz v=~0.17 max=vlong x=vlong 05:19:03 448813. [2015-10-29 21:21:19] [vlong=0.17-a0-2231-gd80ca38] pes1 the Cutter (L5 VSBe of Trog) killed the ghost of zighart the Firebug, a weakling DEFE on turn 2663. (D:4) 05:19:13 I don't think snark has added them to sequell yet 05:19:24 but they're definite at the necessary url 05:20:41 -!- Cogwheel has quit [Client Quit] 05:21:12 !lm * s=src vlong=~0.17-b 05:21:13 52186 milestones for * (vlong=~0.17-b): 22156x cszo, 17987x cao, 4189x cue, 3626x cbro, 2768x cxc, 792x lld, 668x cpo 05:21:21 ??servers 05:21:21 servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cszo}, {cbro}; EU: {cdo}, {cue}, {cxc}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo} 05:21:48 ok, only cdo and cwz missing 05:21:51 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 05:23:08 does tourney use sequell db, scoring db or it's own? 05:27:47 -!- Lohengramm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:28:12 -!- Lohengramm has joined ##crawl-dev 05:29:27 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:29:31 it fetches the milestones/logfiles directly 05:29:37 and puts them into mysql 05:29:39 -!- Dazzix has quit [Client Quit] 05:29:57 so it will see those games 05:30:04 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 05:31:26 I like that the repo has 8 TODO files 05:31:35 heh, yeah it's...chaotic 05:31:55 there's a lot of weird note files and even ttyrecs of irc conversations 05:31:57 in the directory itself 05:32:15 At least I think the ttyrecs are irc conversations 05:32:28 haha, that's something 05:33:50 think it's ttyrec of coding with vi 05:34:02 really 05:35:46 !tell Napkin Thanks for the cdo setup; if you can set up http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.17.sh so we can get clan membership, that'd help, otherwise I can just tell people to not register clans on cdo 05:35:46 gammafunk: OK, I'll let napkin know. 05:36:13 does CXC have something like that? 05:36:29 we're using the milestone/logfile urls for cxc 05:36:40 but you could set it up; cszo and cdo use it 05:37:01 I don't know where the script lives, actually 05:37:05 if you can see cszo's cgi-bin, it'd in there 05:37:44 oh 05:37:47 maybe it's cao and cdo 05:37:57 right since cszo has the local rc files 05:38:15 sorry, so you can't see it on cszo, or at least we're not using it there 05:38:22 if it actually helps I can, but just downloading all the rc files should be fine too from CXC pov 05:38:25 ah, yes, gammafunk 05:38:25 Napkin: You have 42 messages. Use !messages to read them. 05:38:35 42 :) 05:38:42 the meaing of life... 05:39:04 done, gammafunk 05:39:42 Napkin: thanks, I see a blank page, so it seems to be working, and cdo is all ready for the tourney 05:40:17 alright 05:40:36 greensnark: all fixed, all good :) 05:40:53 -!- Idolo has quit [] 05:40:54 who ever did this ttyrec coding session, didn't use syntax hilighting 05:40:55 every server with 0.17 installed and the logfile and milestones and the rcs? in time for the tournament? what is this sorcery?! 05:41:15 if you see the screen name edward snowden please stop watching immediately 05:41:54 and CXC is even auto updating this time, so our players can get immidiate benefits of any double damage buffs this time 05:42:18 yeah I wish we could get all servers to auto-update stable (not for double damage bugs, of course) 05:42:44 but I guess a few like cwz and lld aren't even auto-updating trunk 05:42:56 I think they compile at-will, not sure if they force upgrade or not 05:43:12 cwz has autoupdate afaik 05:43:19 based on google translating their forum 05:43:40 cwz didn't autoupdate 0.16 last t, at least 05:43:56 I guess it's trunk only 05:43:57 and it was a long time before we could reach hong to get the meleebug fix 05:44:17 http://webzook.net:82/gb5/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_server&wr_id=1 05:44:24 oh they shut down the server :o 05:44:51 it's online now, if you mean cwz webtiles 05:45:07 the best says they shut it down daily at 5am to update 05:45:10 the post 05:45:14 ah 05:45:34 right, so probably it's a force tranfer 05:45:51 not that this matters for stable or anything 05:46:03 right 05:49:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:52:10 !tell elliptic FYI, we did get fully set up for tourney for both cwz and cdo, and those are enabled in loaddb.py/crontab with taildb.py running. 05:52:10 gammafunk: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 05:52:35 oh need to regen index though 05:53:51 -!- WhodaMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:56:16 !send gammafunk amulet of regeneration 05:56:17 Sending amulet of regeneration to gammafunk. 05:59:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:59:59 I'll always wear it 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:14 * Many new end vaults for various branches. 06:00:15 * Levels no longer can have -cTele, and the teleport control effect is gone. 06:00:19 for changelog highlights 06:00:25 We currently only have 06:00:26 * Square line of sight. 06:00:27 * Shorter Lair rune branches. 06:01:15 that should be * Many new end vaults for various rune branches. 06:01:28 ??changelog 06:01:28 changelog[1/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt - often incomplete and/or out of date, see {changelog[3]} for an exhaustive list of changes. 06:03:30 it's a bit weird having removals as highlights, altough -cTele fits at least 06:04:10 there is just a lot of small changes I guess 06:04:17 yeah I could just say that -cTele is removed 06:04:18 hrm 06:07:43 I think I'll push it, and just tell MPA, so he can remove if he feels it's not a good entry; I know several of us wanted to highlight it, at least 06:08:20 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:09:29 Oh, my stash search improvements could maybe be added to the interface section 06:09:44 sure, feel free 06:09:55 just trying to get it all ready before tagging 06:12:11 I do hate writing changelog lines... 06:12:53 "Allow searching for jewellery, dragon armour/hides and magical staves by granted resistance." 06:13:08 it's not only resistances though 06:13:20 granted egos? 06:13:47 sure 06:14:01 not actually even egos 06:14:07 but I'm not sure what you call it 06:14:14 right... 06:15:47 not sure when I'll be home anyway, feel free to commit something if you'd like 06:16:22 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:17:13 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:52 "Allow searching for jewellery, dragon armour/hides and magical staves by using abbreviations for the granted powers." 06:18:55 Ugh 06:21:49 -!- vev_ is now known as vev 06:22:30 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:22:31 Allow stash searching for jewellery, dragon armour/hides and magical staves by their granted properties. 06:22:34 was about to commit that 06:22:40 but if you like what you have above 06:22:54 what I wrote isn't exactly right either 06:23:50 Allow searching for jewellery, dragon armour/hides and magical staves using abbreviations for their granted powers. 06:24:59 granted properties might be better but I'll go with what the commit author likes 06:25:38 -!- Dazzix has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:26:42 properties sounds better yeah 06:29:15 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:47 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57:13 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-47-g87a63a2: Some final 0.17 changelog additions 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87a63a2493dc 06:58:44 thanks 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:03:15 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17-b1-37-g455c5dd: Some final 0.17 changelog additions 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/455c5dd0277a 07:05:45 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07:51 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:11:29 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: OH GOD IM NOT GOOD WITH COMPUTER] 07:11:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 07:15:39 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:28:52 Medar: I intended that you simply cannot change how boots of flying work after Sac Artifice. You can use other magical items, you just can't evoke them; in my view, the boots should be the same. 07:28:53 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:29:24 Medar: I think the fix that's needed is making flight automatically resume once Roots status ends 07:30:01 so basically wearing the boots in an area with airstrike would be a death sentence? 07:30:04 yes 07:30:13 I'm okay with that 07:30:20 heartless... 07:31:16 I mean, that's how Flight status works: we made it bad to have it always-on 07:33:25 * gammafunk begins playing an extremely sad melody dedicated to crawl players on a teeny tiny violin... 07:34:24 is it the world's smallest violin? 07:39:59 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:42:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:44:36 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:45:01 Lasty: I'm fine with that too. Altough I think the reasoning is at least as strong the other way (boots starting in flight mode is just interface quirk, auto-evoke). But if the gameplay is better that way then sure. 07:50:40 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 07:53:46 -!- pblur_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:22 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:56:48 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:11 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04:03 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-48-g06172c4: Update the debian changelog for 0.17 10(59 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06172c49eb41 08:04:30 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:04:58 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:05:55 !lg * cv=0.17 08:05:55 No games for * (cv=0.17). 08:06:18 !lg * v=0.17 08:06:18 No games for * (v=0.17). 08:06:24 !lg * cv=0.16 08:06:25 278328. Klutz the Carver (L9 MiBe of Trog), slain by a warg (kmap: erik_orc_4) on D:10 on 2015-11-06 11:33:27, with 2709 points after 5043 turns and 0:11:49. 08:06:41 !lg * cv=0.17-a x=alpha 08:06:42 493991. [alpha=true] ktulu8bugs the Slasher (L5 HEFi of Ru), slain by HermannLoens's ghost on D:4 on 2015-11-06 13:04:14, with 248 points after 2665 turns and 0:11:07. 08:06:49 !lg * cv=0.17-a x=alpha,vlong 08:06:50 493991. [alpha=true;vlong=0.17-b1-36-g7b1967c] ktulu8bugs the Slasher (L5 HEFi of Ru), slain by HermannLoens's ghost on D:4 on 2015-11-06 13:04:14, with 248 points after 2665 turns and 0:11:07. 08:07:02 !kw t0.17 08:07:03 Built-in: t0.17 => start>='2015-11-06 20:00:00' time<'2015-11-22 20:00:00' cv=0.17 explbr= 08:07:59 !messages 08:08:00 No messages for TZer0. 08:08:11 not sure how the stable release tagging is going to work here wrt sequell 08:10:01 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17-b1-38-gd28015d: Update the debian changelog for 0.17 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d28015d53230 08:10:58 %git stone_soup-0.17 08:10:58 07gammafunk02 * 0.17.0: Update the debian changelog for 0.17 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d28015d53230 08:12:22 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:15:11 !tell greensnark I have 0.17.0 tagged but many servers may not have it before tourney start; not sure if it's important to update the t0.17 kw to include 0.17-a 08:15:11 gammafunk: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 08:36:50 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:40:18 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:50:52 gammafunk: yeah, unless all servers miraculously get the tag before tourney start the kw will need to be updated 08:51:19 yeah, it's an internal one, so I think only snark can do it 08:51:23 yes 08:51:37 !lg * t0.16 0.16-a s=src 08:51:37 1218 games for * (t0.16 0.16-a): 817x lld, 401x cxc 08:51:50 !lg * t0.15 0.15-a s=src 08:51:50 No games for * (t0.15 0.15-a). 08:51:56 !lg * t0.14 0.14-a s=src 08:51:56 No games for * (t0.14 0.14-a). 08:51:58 but that won't directly the affect the scoring, right? 08:52:01 !lg * t0.13 0.13-a s=src 08:52:01 No games for * (t0.13 0.13-a). 08:52:04 just anyone looking things up in irc 08:52:08 gammafunk: the scripts will be fine, yeah 08:52:16 !lg * t0.12 0.12-a s=src 08:52:17 No games for * (t0.12 0.12-a). 08:52:44 I guess 0.16 is the only version that had this problem recently, though I think it happened at some point 08:52:53 !lg * tall alpha s=cv 08:52:59 1218 games for * (tall alpha): 1218x 0.16-a 08:53:03 or maybe not 08:53:11 we must have released well before the tourney before? 08:53:21 otherwise it seems a hard problem to avoid 08:53:30 well I guess it doesn't have to be that far before 08:53:33 usually further in advance, and also there were fewer servers 08:53:57 !lm * 0.17 s=src 08:53:58 No milestones for * (0.17). 08:54:05 &versions 0.17 08:54:08 CAO: none, CBRO: none, CDO: none, CLAN: none, CPO: none, CSZO: none, CWZ: none, CXC: none, LLD: none 08:54:47 <|amethyst> ??time 08:54:47