00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:10 <|amethyst> I needed push.default = upstream, I had "current" instead 00:02:34 ok, updated the PR with only monster speech additions 00:06:42 has there been a tourney announcement? I wasn't able to find one 00:06:47 ??0.17 tournament 00:06:47 I don't have a page labeled 0.17_tournament in my learndb. 00:06:48 (I want to link to the 0.17 tourney page on the CBRO main page, but the link isn't working yet. I'm wondering if maybe the tourney url will be different if someone else is running the scripts) 00:07:11 <|amethyst> I think gammafunk was going to be running them from cszo? 00:07:24 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.17/ 00:07:28 <|amethyst> he has access to the tourney account anyway 00:07:32 cool 00:07:43 <|amethyst> gammafunk might want to verify :) 00:07:49 gammafunk! 00:08:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:10:06 dualclasshuman (L3 HaFi) (D:1) 00:10:06 Xandrah (L14 GrEE) (Lair:7) 00:10:06 porpoise (L11 HaEn) (Lair:1) 00:10:06 SkyDiva (L2 HEFi) (D:1) 00:10:06 Webtiles server restarted. 00:10:06 zeke (L24 MiFi) (Depths:3) 00:10:08 oh 00:10:08 Zizzlebop (L5 DECj) (D:3) 00:10:11 BubbleThief (L22 DsGl) (Elf:3) 00:10:15 that wasn't graceful 00:10:23 I ran the usual restart script 00:10:24 rip 00:10:33 sudo /etc/init.d/webtiles restart 00:10:39 oh, johnstein 00:10:42 I noticed earlier 00:10:44 I've never need things error like that before 00:10:50 !lg * current trunk map~~johnstein !vaults 00:10:50 No games for * (current trunk map~~johnstein !vaults). 00:10:53 !lg * current trunk kmap~~johnstein !vaults 00:10:54 3. Hildebrand the Executioner (L16 MiBe of Trog), slain by an 11-headed hydra (called by a spriggan druid) (kmap: swamp_basic_johnstein) on Swamp:4 on 2015-10-28 19:44:16, with 137709 points after 35468 turns and 3:37:32. 00:11:28 !crash bubblethief 00:11:28 1. BubbleThief, XL22 DsGl, T:46336 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/BubbleThief/crash-BubbleThief-20151030-040959.txt 00:11:45 Grunt: you mean, 3 kills? 00:11:54 yup! 00:11:59 :) 00:12:14 that :) on dead characters...... 00:12:22 !lg @mfc current trunk (( map~~johnstein || kmap~~johnstein )) 00:12:23 1. Hildebrand the Executioner (L16 MiBe of Trog), slain by an 11-headed hydra (called by a spriggan druid) (kmap: swamp_basic_johnstein) on Swamp:4 on 2015-10-28 19:44:16, with 137709 points after 35468 turns and 3:37:32. 00:12:31 our newest MFC crawler 00:12:39 oops 00:12:57 "Crash caused by signal #13: Broken pipe" 00:13:00 is that ok? 00:13:09 I've never seen that before on a server restart 00:14:10 hm 00:14:12 and the server ain't working 00:14:14 uh oh 00:15:30 I always forget the goddam commas in the dgamelaunch.conf files 00:15:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:18:49 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:11 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:19:16 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:42 -!- Cacophony has quit [Client Quit] 00:20:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:27:11 johnstein: no, sorry, haven't started making the t stuff yet, will probably do so tomorrow 00:27:30 ok. ty 00:27:42 somehow updating config.py broke my server 00:28:49 such is the joy of storing configuration data directly in server code 00:29:47 -!- jolamb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:30:09 Webtiles server restarted. 00:30:19 ah. there we go 00:30:35 I removed experimentals from being playable 00:30:48 and in the process, removed the {% end %} from banner.html 00:30:52 ??doh 00:30:52 |amethyst[1/22]: <|amethyst> doh 00:31:42 Sometimes...when you get a lotta doh...you just bake some bread. 00:32:01 doh?? 00:32:01 <|amethyst> doh 00:32:35 rip experimentals 00:32:40 what is the url for the crawl page that chequers set up? 00:32:46 Lightli: yea, people might be bummed 00:32:50 but it's TOURNEY TIME 00:33:02 johnstein: good opportunity to start with a new set of experimentals after tourney <.< 00:33:02 hmm, i should redraw lucy's altar 00:33:13 i always thought it was sort of dull 00:33:15 I'm sitting on at least one that we can start with >.> 00:33:22 but I'll need to land gruntstuff before we do that 00:33:26 I await the massive nerfs to _________ post tourney (the blank is ranged combat) 00:33:28 Grunt: yea, I really should retire them all 00:33:30 !nerf Lightli 00:33:30 * Sequell nerfs Lightli!!! 00:33:33 I just keep seeing people play them 00:33:40 somebody give me suggestions for what lucy altars should look like 00:33:42 and I get all wishywashy 00:33:43 ontoclasm: corrupt 00:33:45 <.< 00:33:49 people like them I guess 00:33:49 and allow the experimentals to live 00:33:53 it's mostly the squarelos and mulch ones that are just outdated or based on already merged features 00:33:57 yea 00:34:09 gammafunk: I've just been stupid busy or those would have been gone by now 00:34:10 said experimental I'm sitting on is evoker_god_rebase 00:34:19 I kinda figured :P 00:34:22 ??pakellas 00:34:22 pakellas[1/1]: Pakellas the Inventive, god of devices; currently in an experimental branch on CBRO. Blocks MP regeneration, hates spellcasting and channeling; instead you get access to MP on kills, three flavours of {device surge}, {quick charge}, and gifts of evocables. Pakellas can also {supercharge} a wand or rod at 6* piety. 00:34:33 I want to make sure the things I'm going to land after 0.17 tourney ends are in trunk and working before I push that branch though 00:34:38 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:34:40 _rebase also has a few tweaks 00:34:41 johnstein: yeah no worries, it doesn't cause any real problems after all 00:34:49 how good is pakellas with DD anyways 00:34:49 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-b1-1-gb432cab 00:34:51 mainly, only one Device Surge and a couple of new abilities 00:34:51 just makes CBRO look old and busted 00:34:57 woo! 00:35:01 now that DD of Ely is crippled 00:35:10 is CBRO the first 0.17 playable server? 00:35:13 for some reason I am fond of KoAr of P 00:35:17 HUGE CRPL 00:35:24 johnstein: looks like it 00:37:45 man, i just got pushed outside glass by lom's tornado 00:37:46 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37:58 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:42 I have tried to fix that in the past 00:38:48 that fix was reverted because reasons 00:39:17 dang 00:39:34 That bug is literally impossible to fix? Meaning you tried once and failed? 00:40:56 basically >.> 00:41:45 %git 837be7a 00:41:46 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-1239-g837be7a: Revert "Prevent Tornado from moving monsters through solid features." 10(2 years, 11 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/837be7a97a2b 00:41:58 just reflavour lom' tornado as phase tornado 00:44:00 chequers: what is the url for the crawl page you set up? 00:44:29 the tourney? 00:44:44 https://crawl.project357.org/static/tourney-test/ 00:46:24 the one with all the crawl servers 00:46:39 and will find your location and the nearest crawl server 00:47:00 http://crawl.develz.org/play.htm 00:47:01 ? 00:47:16 yea 00:47:18 that 00:47:21 ty 00:49:20 and finally, everything is done 00:49:33 I always forget all the stupid minor steps 00:49:41 like ensuring directories are created 00:49:50 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:47 oh 00:50:47 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:50:49 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:50:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:00 !tell wheals rune menu fr: cross out pan runes that you missed and can't ever get 00:51:00 chequers: OK, I'll let wheals know. 00:51:09 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:56:23 !tell greensnark updated 0.17 logs/stones at: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/meta/0.17/ 00:56:23 johnstein: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 00:58:56 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1-gfac8111 (34) 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:14 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1-gfac8111 (34) 01:03:35 -!- TZer0 has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:04:01 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:05:52 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:39 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:07:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:07:45 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:38 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:18:14 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:21:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:24:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:51:14 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/lugonu.png 01:51:16 hmmm 01:51:51 looks nice, but kind of robotic 01:51:58 yeah 01:52:20 that's wht i was going for, but maybe it wasn't a great idea 01:53:03 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:43 robo-lugonu! 01:54:56 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55:20 also it was sort of supposed to look like the abyss 01:55:31 weird blocky structures 01:56:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:57:56 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:58:13 ah 01:59:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:24 ontoclasm: make it the purple effect 02:08:30 but overlay it over every other god altar 02:08:46 haha, hm 02:08:59 bonus points if someone can code it so the game replaces the corrupted altar correctly 02:10:23 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:11:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:04 -!- Doesnt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:13:09 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:17:00 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:17:55 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1-gfac8111 (34) 02:20:31 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:23:32 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:32:40 -!- Gilihad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:47:27 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:51:11 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:48 there should probably be tournament announcement post on the website 02:53:59 * Medar said not willing to do anything himself 02:55:01 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1-gfac8111 02:56:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:03:36 ??tournament 03:03:36 tournament[1/4]: The 0.16 tournament ran from 20:00 UTC Mar 13 to 20:00 UTC Mar 29. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/overview.html 03:04:37 !time 03:04:37 Time: Oct 30, 2015, 07:04:36 AM, UTC. 03:07:10 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:08:34 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 03:11:38 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1-gfac8111 (34) 03:13:19 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:14:45 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:22:47 Medar: yeah there will be 03:23:08 I'd like to link to the tournament rules page 03:23:12 but we don't have that yet 03:24:13 Maybe I should make a make a wordpress with the updates from last post and mention the date, saying there'll be a follow up when we have the page ready 03:24:18 just people knowing the date is good 03:24:57 have to clear that schedule :) 03:27:40 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:28:14 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:28:50 On the one hand I found the original arcade game audio from the ridiculous cutscene I like to reference 03:29:07 on the other hand the voice acting is so bad I don't even want to use it as a joke 03:29:23 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ilefpea6ef5j2wh/fw.mp3?dl=0 03:29:25 haha 03:30:51 darnit 03:30:52 The "You cannot stop me with paramecium alone" guy sounds like he was really bored 03:31:33 what game is that from? 03:31:42 Forgotten Worlds 03:33:29 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:54 the game looks much better than the voice acting 03:34:01 not a high bar 03:34:40 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:34:56 anyway, doing release stuff is never too much fun, so that's much appreciated 03:37:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:37:35 -!- Gilihad_ is now known as Gilihad 03:37:54 -!- ololoev_ has quit [Client Quit] 03:40:11 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:40:29 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:41:06 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:43:09 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:47:39 -!- Guest3533 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06:17 !messages 04:06:18 No messages for TZer0. 04:07:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09:24 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:10:32 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:11:56 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:14:13 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:16:28 -!- Arcai has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:17:31 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:18:19 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:20:27 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 04:22:45 TZer0: you saw that 0.17 was branched I assume 04:25:04 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:28:48 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 04:33:11 -!- xordid has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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CXC will have to wait until next week. 04:40:24 okay, I'll probably fix it later tonight/tomorrow 04:40:32 Nice 04:40:58 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:20 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:45:27 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:50 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:07 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 05:05:12 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:22:52 -!- morfei has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:25:40 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:25:55 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:34 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:28:36 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:31:19 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:34:45 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:38:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:41:19 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:42:35 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:00 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:49:18 -!- Syndicu__s has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:28 -!- Rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:21 -!- Rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50:41 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:52:05 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:52:16 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:52:26 -!- Syndicus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:52:27 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:05:01 -!- orbekk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:10:59 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:13:14 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:31:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:33:52 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 06:38:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:42:58 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:48:40 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:48 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10:53 -!- serq has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:28 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 41.0.2/20151014143721]] 07:29:57 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:27 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:31:11 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:42:32 -!- tv1990 has quit [Client Quit] 07:59:58 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:06 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:01:13 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:05:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:23 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:11:14 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:14:25 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:55 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:17:29 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:18:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:18:57 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:20:59 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:22:09 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:23:14 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 08:25:44 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:30:32 -!- pblur has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:55 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Potion petition comes online with a timing and power similar to Fedhas. 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:24 nah im pretty sure about this version 12:01:44 in fact some guy on tavern told me he should be even worse 12:01:49 in the early 12:01:51 and better late 12:01:55 who said he plays gozag a lot 12:06:34 OK 12:06:43 I think I play Gozag differently 12:06:48 But there you go. ;) 12:07:27 Sooo... two different rMut suggestions: 12:07:57 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:08:00 1. Ring which keeps same block rates, but blocks them into temporary mutations. 12:08:02 -!- njorth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:08:56 2. Amulet that suppresses all permanent mutations while worn, but doesn't block them. Ramp up on suppression and contam on removal to prevent easy swapping 12:09:09 I like both... any thoughts on which is better? 12:10:35 DrKe: how could he be better late? 12:10:50 i would have to look at the post again 12:10:54 if he's already at S 12:11:13 or is the shiny gold altar not gozag 12:11:15 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 12:11:18 Gozag is at C everywhere 12:11:37 Early and late game are straightforward with a sensible build. Yeah, you run into the occasional unwinnable situation in the first handful of levels. Big deal. Mid game can be tortuous if you get unlucky with loot, principally MR and rPois. The reason I think Gozag is great is that he lets you buy tons of loot to counter bad luck. But it's only after you hit Lair that the gold really piles up. 12:11:37 So I think Gozag has to be lower in your early game ranking than your champ -> zot ranking. I recommend D-E early and C-D late. 12:11:54 in the version of the list he is talking about he was C early and D late 12:12:10 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:23 the gold cross is tso 12:12:40 oh 12:12:40 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:12:58 !messages 12:12:59 (1/1) chequers said (11h 21m 59s ago): rune menu fr: cross out pan runes that you missed and can't ever get 12:13:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:14 * wheals looks at the text version instead 12:15:08 yeah i play console myself but spectated tiles enough to learn the altars 12:15:32 but not everyone is going to be able to guess what is what with 22 gods 12:15:49 like yred <-> dith 12:16:20 yredilemnul 12:16:33 yredelumnal? 12:16:39 ??yred 12:16:40 yredelemnul[1/5]: God of the death knights. Grants the following invocations: reanimate monsters as zombies (single and multi-target versions), recall friendly undead, injury mirror, area of effect vampiric draining, and enslave soul (see next entry). Also gifts undead pets. 12:16:47 lol\ 12:16:51 yredeluminal 12:17:02 (getit) 12:23:48 -!- Limulus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:30:01 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:34:40 -!- Poroso_ is now known as Poroso 12:43:36 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:44:37 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:49:11 -!- pblur__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:06 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:52:57 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:53:39 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:54:24 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:54:41 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:56:53 tightassed cheapskates, all of them 12:58:48 !learn edit yredelemnul[1] s/. Grants/, back when those existed. Grants/ 12:58:48 yredelemnul[1/5]: God of the death knights, back when those existed. Grants the following invocations: reanimate monsters as zombies (single and multi-target versions), recall friendly undead, injury mirror, area of effect vampiric draining, and enslave soul (see next entry). Also gifts undead pets. 12:59:36 Death knights do exist as monsters though... 12:59:54 hm 13:00:01 i guess that's fair 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:14 !learn edit yredelemnul[1] s/, back when those existed// 13:00:14 yredelemnul[1/5]: God of the death knights. Grants the following invocations: reanimate monsters as zombies (single and multi-target versions), recall friendly undead, injury mirror, area of effect vampiric draining, and enslave soul (see next entry). Also gifts undead pets. 13:03:39 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:39 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:04:47 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1-gfac8111 (34) 13:07:46 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:12:45 so, regarding shafts 13:12:58 how about shaft-banishment 13:13:09 -!- heliob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:13:31 uh 13:13:35 zot traps already exist 13:14:06 ontoclasm: I'd like to see how it plays out with a function of banisher HD 13:14:22 before trying to *gasp* be nice to players 13:14:25 no, i mean like 13:14:35 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:14:42 replace shafts with a spell 13:14:54 oh 13:14:57 that functions like banishment, but banishes you downwards in the dungeon 13:15:03 imo gross 13:15:11 shafts take you from no danger to high danger sometime 13:15:19 if there's a shafter around then you know what's coming 13:15:26 <|amethyst> such a spell might be interesting, but I don't think it should replace the trap 13:15:40 hm 13:15:58 well, in addition to the traps then 13:16:22 It's more interesting in addition to. 13:16:30 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:16:35 Maybe actually have it have shafting flavor? 13:16:43 Like, maybe a formicid mage? 13:16:54 Could be a nice boss in various ant-hill vaults. 13:16:57 <|amethyst> I hear that D:10 is one bad mother... 13:17:18 <|amethyst> there is the question of what the monster would do at branch bottom 13:17:30 <|amethyst> we can just avoid placing shafts there, but monsters are mobile 13:17:50 <|amethyst> and making it not take stairs would be a little heavy-handed 13:18:15 -!- toenail has quit [Client Quit] 13:18:51 <|amethyst> OTOH, if you want to drag it all the way to branch end, I guess that's out of the frying pan and into the fire 13:19:19 make it shaft itself as well when it casts the spell 13:19:48 it's like getting banished while already in the abyss 13:20:20 you could even use the transit code to make it land near you 13:20:40 ^ 13:20:44 Sounds cool 13:20:56 You'd want a cooldown on the spell 13:21:02 "Let's take this downstairs!" 13:22:03 btw, i made this thing, if anyone has any feedback: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/lugonu.png 13:23:59 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:24:04 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:25:37 what Lugonu really needs is another attempt at altar desecration... I am so sorry my original proposal was half-assed (I have a better one now) 13:26:53 canofworms suggested making a version of that tile for each other god's altar 13:27:08 (so i guess that one would be a corrupted vehumet altar) 13:28:17 ontoclasm: hm, that's an unusual approach, but I can fully get behind forcing the feature into existence through tiles :) 13:31:49 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: the face of chaos: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/lugonu2.png 13:35:30 yess 13:35:31 That 13:35:37 s a vault that needs made 13:36:26 so is the design lugonu-y enough? 13:37:38 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Berlin here I come] 13:44:27 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 13:45:27 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 13:58:13 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:58:44 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:43 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13:26 -!- heliob_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:15:59 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:52 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:20 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:43:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:44:28 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:41 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:46:12 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:54:46 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:57:55 I like the new RNG 14:58:00 "You finish putting on the +23 crystal plate armour "Amod" {rF+}" 14:59:56 I'm fairly sure the new rng had nothing to do with that 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:40 Well, I've never had that sort of luck before... :P 15:00:47 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:02:12 <|amethyst> e - a scroll labelled DOCA PETE LAFUKUBA 15:02:20 ??changelog 15:02:20 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:02:20 changelog[1/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt - often incomplete and/or out of date, see {changelog[3]} for an exhaustive list of changes. 15:03:20 !messges 15:04:55 pblur__: xom thinks this is hilarious 15:05:15 ?/\+23 15:05:16 Matching entries (1): crystal_plate_armour[2]: The probability that a randart CPA is +23 (the max possible) is exactly 101/112500. 15:05:35 Wow 15:05:40 Cool 15:05:42 On a mummy 15:05:52 <|amethyst> BTW, apparently "Jiyva Jesus" is possible ♥ 15:05:59 !calc 101.0/112500.0 15:06:00 0 15:06:10 I have 57 AC going into the lair 15:06:12 thanks math 15:06:15 <|amethyst> and "Jiyva Juarez" 15:06:16 I shouldn't be able to die 15:06:28 <|amethyst> !calc 112500/101 15:06:29 1113 15:06:33 I'd worship Jiyva Juarez 15:06:37 jiyva jehosephat pls 15:06:39 Well, it's slightly less than 0.1% 15:06:45 Like maybe 0.09% 15:07:11 !calc 112500*0.0009 15:07:11 101.25 15:07:19 Yeah, basically right on 15:08:00 9 in 10,000 is actually... more than i expected 15:08:22 of course, randart CPA is damn rare in itself 15:09:01 YEah 15:09:23 I mean, I've had +16 CPA a couple times 15:09:29 But not +23 15:09:36 Artifacts I mean 15:11:28 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:11:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:56 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:26:31 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:29:25 -!- DrKe_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:27 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:32:33 -!- DrKe_ is now known as DrKe 15:35:02 -!- necKro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:51 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:35:55 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:31 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:52:39 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:58:20 -!- shrink has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:58:22 -!- glosham has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:59:24 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:31 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:01:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:43 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11:50 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:57 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:27:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:07 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:46:27 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:49:26 -!- njorth has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:49:30 |amethyst: I never saw that wordpress post you made 16:52:58 -!- dire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:55:30 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:56:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:16 -!- Palyth_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:12 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:42 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:59 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:05:23 <|amethyst> does "my periodic social media purge" sound lunatic fringe enough? :) 17:05:28 -!- Limulus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:06:46 sounds like something I'd do (so, yes :p ) 17:07:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:08:04 it's very tin-foil-hat, congrats 17:12:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:13:35 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:14:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:15:48 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:18:49 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:02 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:30:51 -!- xordid has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:36:13 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:36:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:17 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:34 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49:10 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.18-a0-2-g0e512fa: Lugonu altar tile 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e512fa8db11 17:51:25 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:55:37 rip lucy tentacles 17:58:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:58:59 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:00:09 good that this is 0.18 18:00:13 i don't have to make a new png image 18:03:19 -!- cjm has quit [] 18:07:31 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08:56 -!- Cacophony is now known as Spookiphony 18:10:32 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:10 -!- Torax__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13:40 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:13:47 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15:48 heh 18:18:11 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:18:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:20 |amethyst: is it a bad idea to backport just the js fix to 0.15 and then not do a release? 18:19:38 !lg * cv=0.15 thismonth 18:19:40 782. comborobin the Ruinous (L5 MuWz), demolished by an ogre (a +0 giant club) on D:4 on 2015-10-30 19:56:39, with 184 points after 5641 turns and 0:08:48. 18:19:45 !lg * cv=0.15 thismonth s=name 18:19:45 782 games for * (cv=0.15 thismonth): 133x comborobin, 116x Skan, 107x trelanon, 73x TittyCrusher, 60x FistofTheNorthNile, 42x HopeRidesAlone, 26x RottenBandages, 22x Gorgo, 19x RebellionBird, 17x Specter, 14x Aurafag, 12x PollenGolem, 11x Reofec, 10x firemonkey, 7x MaNames, 7x kingalok, 6x mcklear, 6x magipi, 6x HANFGEIST, 6x Klutz, 5x Beekeeper, 5x Musteatbrain, 4x Grorgnorb, 4x thewalrus, 3x Unk... 18:20:12 not a very high number of games but seems to get played more often than one might expect 18:20:26 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:21:49 hm 18:21:53 should i do any other altars 18:24:18 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:56 one cool thing i noticed that i didn't intend 18:25:13 the little jewel on lucy's altar is similar to the marker for summoned monsters 18:25:25 so when you corrupt they match 18:26:29 doesn't corrupt make neutrals? 18:26:35 I guess those must also have the summon icon 18:26:54 they're summoned as well as neutral 18:30:00 yeah, they have the grey bored face too 18:32:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33:53 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:55 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:38:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:13 so, why do needles of paralysis work on pan lords and so on? i tried it for the first time in my csdc game and it seems strong but uninteresting, as well as being quite a surprise if you don't already expect it to work 18:45:11 I think the idea is more that needles don't check mr, but throwing skill (and HD? I forget) 18:45:15 and it shouldn't just be arbitrarily inconsistent about that 18:45:17 ??needle 18:45:17 needles[1/2]: Needles come in a variety of flavours, each with an individual status effect. They do not cause direct damage (except for curare). 18:45:20 ??needle[2 18:45:20 needles[2/2]: Needle brands are: poison, curare, paralysis, sleep, confusion, slow, and frenzy. Currently only poison and curare do not use the checks described at {blowgun}. 18:45:26 ??blowgun 18:45:27 blowgun[1/2]: Blowguns shoot {needles}. For needles other than poison and curare: You have a flat 2% chance of affecting monsters with HD14 or less. In all other cases, or if this 2% chance fails, you will only affect a monster if 2+ 1d(3 + Throwing Skill + Blowgun enchantment) is greater than the monster's HD. 18:45:32 right 18:45:40 so that's a pretty reasonable system 18:46:02 you could say arbitrarily that they don't affect demons 18:46:22 but if you do add an exception, it should be across the board in a consistent way like this 18:46:45 not "you can't para asmodeus but you can frederick, you can para antaeus but not lom lobon" etc 18:47:59 but it doesn't work on orbs of fire or undeads. what's unclear is what category pan lords fall into that thoe guys don't. obviously there was an "arbitrary" choice made already, and it was decided that undead and nonliving can't be needled, but demonic can 18:48:28 -!- pblur__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:48:40 being poison resistant makes it seem quite reasonable for needles to not work on them: how else does a needle paralyse you except via poison? 18:48:53 magic 18:48:55 that's bad reasoning imo 18:48:58 magic 18:49:17 but for your first statement, yes it was an arbitrary decision wrt monster holiness 18:49:27 but demons already have arbitrary differences due to their holiness 18:49:34 if they didn't, we wouldn't have demonic holiness 18:49:43 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:49:57 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:49:59 not to say that demonic holiness must include "vulnerable to needles" 18:50:10 but we already allow demons to be vulnerable to poison or not 18:50:21 right, i'm saying it's already arbitrary, so i don't buy the "well your change would just be arbitrary" 18:51:02 if demonic holiness has no differences from other holiness (e.g. there are not arbitrary decisions made to difference holiness types) we shouldn't have demonic holiness 18:51:13 s/difference/differentiate/ 18:51:43 okay, that much makes sense to me 18:52:13 I'm not sure "immune to needles" is the best thing for demonic holiness to have, since I guess there's a sense that they're alive in some sense, but yeah the ultimate decisions for which holiness gets what is indeed arbitrary 18:52:35 like nonliving and undead kind of mades sense, going back to the "realism of needles" thing 18:52:41 but in the end gameplay is most important 18:52:45 *important 18:53:16 I'm not even sure what needles will end up looking like when Lasty gets done with them 18:53:23 assuming he's going to work on that in 0.18 18:53:30 so maybe that entire question will get revisited 18:53:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:53:44 right. and i think it hurts gameplay and surprises the player: a "spoiled" player knows you can cheese the heck out of some really tough enemies by investing in throwing even if you already have better-damage ranged options, and going back to a blowgun, which otherwise appears to stop being useful after the early/mid game 18:54:16 well, part of that is false 18:54:25 the appearance of not being useful? 18:54:37 does only this spoiled player know that needles are based on throwing skill and hence are useful for any char with high throwing? 18:54:51 I mean the design of needles is that they're good with high throwing 18:55:15 gammafunk: probably so, because the needles a player sees in the early game are poison and curare, which interact differently with your throwing skill as i understand it? 18:55:22 Effects of Focus card not documented in message log 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10037 by tedric 18:55:22 basically a hex that doesn't check mr, but does require this rare ammo type (and high skill levels in not-hexes) 18:55:23 renaming Throwing would be nice though 18:55:30 since uh 18:55:56 amalloy: well, I think it's pretty common knowledge that needles are good with high throwing; if you read anything about blowguns/throwing, you'll know this 18:56:07 perhaps we don't communicate this enough in the manual 18:56:14 or otherwise in-game 18:56:20 i mean the unspoiled player could also read the descriptions of the needles they get 18:56:25 yeah 18:56:32 doesn't it say that it's based on throwing skill? 18:56:39 I hope it does say this somewhere 18:56:42 no but it says what it affects 18:56:56 and blowguns fall into the "throwing" category 18:57:00 oh, it does say that 18:57:33 "living or demonic". fair enough i guess 18:58:19 the flavour justification is something about demons still having a metabolic system even if it's weird and demon-y, it's an old kb commit but i can't find it 18:58:51 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59:12 anyway i do think it would be good to make poison and curare needles work more like the other types 18:59:21 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:53 yeah, not great that the most common needle and most OP needle work so differently 18:59:56 that'd maybe make things a bunch clearer although it'd be tricky to get right since their whole thing is being useful early/with low investment 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:22 -!- Bamboomancer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:00:30 fr corrosion needles 19:01:53 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.18-a0-2-g0e512fa (34) 19:02:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 19:02:05 woah, -2 already 19:02:07 %git 19:02:07 07ontoclasm02 * 0.18-a0-2-g0e512fa: Lugonu altar tile 10(73 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e512fa8db11 19:02:37 haha 19:02:43 my timing is awful 19:02:51 and/or amazing 19:02:56 how so? 19:03:15 also should that be cherry-picked to 0.17? 19:03:21 or maybe it was 19:03:31 %git stone_soup-0.17 19:03:31 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-b1-1-gb432cab: Make brain-eating statues less natural. 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b432cab10edb 19:03:43 I think tiles changes/improvement are fine 19:03:54 also drives DrKe crazy, which is a bonus 19:04:01 change every altar tile imo 19:06:17 -!- Syndicu__s is now known as Syndicus 19:06:25 ontoclasm: but unless you'd like to keep that a trunk tile, I think that one is ok for git checkout stone_soup-0.17 && git cherry-pick -x b432cab (&& git push) 19:10:56 * Grunt gestures. gammafunk seems to speed up. 19:11:52 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:39 * gammafunk puts on an amulet of stasis. The amulet enguls gammafunk in a massive magical discharge! gammafunk is contaminated with residual magic. 19:12:46 s/enguls/engulfs/ 19:13:33 gammafunk: yeah, i guess i could do that 19:13:40 but what if it introduces a bug!!! 19:13:48 !banish ontoclasm 19:13:49 gammafunk casts a spell. ontoclasm is cast into the Abyss! 19:14:27 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:23 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:16:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:21:47 03ontoclasm02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17-b1-2-g4de86a2: Lugonu altar tile 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4de86a21a647 19:21:55 DrKe: sorrry 19:22:44 dpeg: rip 19:22:46 er 19:22:48 DrKe: 19:27:43 !death dpeg 19:27:43 Death has come for dpeg... 19:27:43 !learn set drke[2] 0.17 stable list: http://i.imgur.com/do3gSLz.png / text version: http://pastebin.com/V3ybYtmm 19:27:44 drke[2/4]: 0.17 stable list: http://i.imgur.com/do3gSLz.png / text version: http://pastebin.com/V3ybYtmm 19:27:49 i'm not bothering to update the tavern post 19:28:00 rip 19:28:06 my apologies :< 19:28:06 but that altar looks good 19:28:10 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-3-g0c350e8: Update the tutorials 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 20+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c350e8d0f63 19:28:12 03MarvinPA02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17-b1-3-g8a6d69a: Update the tutorials 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 20+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a6d69a16ec5 19:28:14 it's allright 19:28:16 thank you 19:28:23 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype11.png 19:28:33 maaaybe getting to final-ish? 19:29:46 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:30:28 been a while since the tutorial updates have been that easy, clearly we didn't remove enough important stuff in 0.17 19:30:48 mm gw is up and running again 19:30:49 <3 19:30:56 (and I finally got around to c_persisting everything) 19:31:04 (gw is not running online yet though) 19:31:26 if someone gets the chance to read through the manual and/or hints mode that'd be good, i might do a bit tomorrow i guess 19:34:59 ontoclasm: dang, nice 19:37:16 -!- MetallicDragon has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:41:48 someone should remove the vault comborobin is playing on right now 19:41:50 seems spoilery 19:41:53 like 19:41:57 go watch comborobin on cszo 19:45:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:45:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:47:25 holy jimbo 19:47:28 thats 19:50:43 what did I miss 19:51:10 comborobin is doing a thing on cszo 19:51:19 there's a vault that's a + shape with lava in the corners 19:51:46 and apparently it's designed so that the corners of the vault aren't visible 19:52:00 and there's good loot spawned there apparently? 19:52:12 except it's blocked by plants so you either dig or kill the plants 19:52:20 comborobin is using magic dart and blink to get the loot 19:53:06 Tonight I'll make the wordpress post with updates since last post and give the tournament date; the url will have to come later 19:53:40 might just generate the pages using the current code so we have the rules etc up 19:53:51 Also, I guess we'll need three new banner images? 19:53:56 ??plan 19:53:56 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 19:54:01 ??0.17_plan 19:54:01 0.17 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.17_plan 19:54:34 looks like just two, Spiteful for Lucy and Heretic for Beogh 19:57:57 !blame2 minmay 19:57:57 mmmiiinnnmmmaaayyy 19:59:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:15 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:04:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:36 ebering: wait what is that seriously his vault 20:12:28 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:14:43 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:15:06 !vault minmay_weird_star 20:15:06 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#l934 20:15:15 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype12.png 20:15:19 done, i think 20:15:48 I don't see loot in it? 20:16:03 ebering: I'm still standing! 20:16:45 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:17:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:17:03 ?? vault syntax 20:17:04 I don't have a page labeled vault_syntax in my learndb. 20:17:19 actually what's the | 20:17:23 kvaak: a good item 20:17:30 what the fuck 20:17:42 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:27 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:28 The build was broken. (stone_soup-0.17 - 4de86a2 #3552 : ontoclasm): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/88455276 20:18:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:18:48 !blame travis 20:18:48 I pronounce travis... Guilty! 20:19:11 Hang him, hang him higher! 20:23:39 all right, i think i'm happy with this version 20:23:56 anyone have feedback before i start like 20:23:58 doing stuff with it 20:28:15 i guess i could... send out mail on crd or something? 20:28:21 sounds good! 20:28:22 i dunno how this works :( 20:40:12 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 20:40:34 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:44 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:08 -!- reaverb is now known as Guest44844 20:44:34 -!- Sonata has quit [Quit: ₪₪₪-₪₪₪-₪₪-₪₪₪] 20:45:26 -!- Amy is now known as Guest43830 20:45:49 -!- Guest43830 is now known as flappity 20:48:39 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:48:46 -!- Guest44844 is now known as reaverb 20:54:18 -!- andrewhl has quit [Client Quit] 20:55:14 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56:31 Hmm, tournament happens after the special Halloween ghost thing, right? 20:56:35 -!- kaiza has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57:11 there's a halloween ghost thing? 20:59:27 Yes. More ghosts spawn on halloween. 20:59:57 you should revert the orcs cast torment bug for halloween 20:59:59 spook some players 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:07 Anyway looking at the proposed dates the tourney will definitely be uneffected. 21:00:28 (Also on halloween there's a couple cosmetic changes like the start game major). 21:01:17 sounds like csdc will be affected 21:01:58 Yeah 21:02:22 TrEn though can handle most ghosts 21:02:56 i saw a trmo ghost in my labyrinth 21:03:04 Yeah 21:03:04 tore through 1/3 of my hp in one hit 21:03:08 That's terrifying 21:03:15 what is the start game major 21:03:34 s/major/message/ 21:03:45 ?/firestorm ghosts 21:03:45 oh 21:03:45 No matches. 21:04:08 i believe it was fire storm 21:04:11 not firestorm 21:04:33 Yes it was. 21:05:34 oh huh I thought the actual spell was "firestorm". Shows how often I get lvl 9 spells >_> 21:06:30 -!- flappity has quit [Quit: ₪₪₪-₪₪₪-₪₪-₪₪₪] 21:07:24 icestorm 21:10:39 -!- Stendarr|3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11:58 -!- PollenGolem has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:13:00 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13:43 -!- Sonata is now known as flappity 21:13:57 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:58 necro storm 21:13:58 The build was broken. (stone_soup-0.17 - 8a6d69a #3553 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/88456602 21:13:58 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:17:11 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:20:31 rip the build 21:34:40 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:50 reaverb: are you removing the halloween thing after tomorrow btw 21:37:59 -!- flappity has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:38:03 -!- Amy is now known as flappity 21:39:20 haha probably not actually. I figure that ghosts /already/ do weird things lie make servers have different difficulties, and being time based really isn't that much worse. 21:39:20 s/lie/like/ 21:39:26 I do remember I disliked it when if was first added last year. 21:39:36 wow if i cant get you to do it then who will 21:39:48 lol. 21:40:17 I was thinking about adding an rc file option to disable ghosts, since you can just delete ghosts offline. 21:40:22 yes! 21:40:33 there is a nethack patch that does that 21:41:10 -!- mishugashu has quit [Client Quit] 21:41:13 Ok, expect that feature in 0.18. 21:41:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:52:33 Your snaplasher vine falls through a shaft! 21:52:34 _The shaft crumbles and collapses. 21:53:04 (turn into Bamboomancer's game on cszo; it's fascinating) 21:53:07 s/turn/tune/ 21:57:38 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:27 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:03:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:25 The build was broken. (master - 0c350e8 #3554 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/88456637 22:03:25 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:04:45 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:58 Snaplasher Vine Segments Become Permanent after falling through a shaft 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10038 by Bamboomancer 22:07:44 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:50 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:14:28 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:59 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:22 -!- reaverb is now known as Guest22522 22:24:40 -!- Guest22522 is now known as reaverb 22:25:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:38 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:39:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:41:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:42:07 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:49:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:54:09 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:54:53 ProzacElf (L5 VpCK) (D:3) 22:55:04 ? 22:56:28 ... 22:56:32 !crashlog ProzacElf 22:56:32 3. ProzacElf, XL5 VpCK, T:2095 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ProzacElf/crash-ProzacElf-20151031-025451.txt 22:56:54 ah, signal #15 22:56:57 of course! 22:57:25 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:58:07 damn, that's an extensive log 22:58:56 hm 22:59:05 !lg * ckiller=Robin ktyp=beam 22:59:06 1374. SushiGirl the Conjurer (L4 DECj), blasted by Robin (wand of flame) on D:2 on 2015-10-31 01:23:19, with 77 points after 1383 turns and 0:02:42. 22:59:13 !lg * ckiller=Robin ktyp=beam ckaux=goblin 22:59:14 348. vwxwxv the Charmwright (L2 HESk), hit from afar by Robin (goblin) on D:2 on 2015-10-30 16:30:14, with 19 points after 295 turns and 0:01:20. 22:59:25 !lg * ckiller=Robin ktyp=beam ckaux=goblin x=tiles 22:59:26 348. [tiles=true] vwxwxv the Charmwright (L2 HESk), hit from afar by Robin (goblin) on D:2 on 2015-10-30 16:30:14, with 19 points after 295 turns and 0:01:20. 22:59:28 hm 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:45 if it helps anything i had a friendly imp standing behind me. and it looked like robin was trying to throw at me but it maybe didn't have somewhere to land 23:02:13 that shouldn't be SIGTERM though 23:02:22 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:03:09 i didn't say i had any idea what was actually going on =P 23:03:16 just describing what was going on in game 23:03:42 yeah, SIGTERM is external; it won't matter what was going on in-game 23:03:58 did the game freeze after you saw "Robin throws tha goblin at ye!" 23:04:03 right. normally it'd be server shutting down 23:04:05 hm 23:04:08 ??is cbro up 23:04:08 I don't have a page labeled is_cbro_up in my learndb. 23:04:11 ??is cbro down 23:04:13 37 seconds since last activity (cbro) 23:04:30 Grunt: yeah 23:04:31 didn't think so, I thought startup/shutdown were announced 23:04:35 or termination due to memory pressure or something 23:04:40 because this looks like to me like your game was timed out for pegging the CPU 23:04:42 that'd normally be SIGKILL 23:05:21 pegging the cpu? 23:05:27 (OOM killer that is. whether cpu timeout would do that depends on what is checking and doing the killing) 23:05:44 geekosaur: in this case it's the crawl server scripts, which use SIGTERM for that 23:05:47 (I have seen this before) 23:05:48 tight infinite loop of some kind, 100% cpu time and not letting anything else run 23:05:55 oh 23:05:55 ProzacElf: the game got stuck in an infinite loop 23:06:02 means you're hogging the processor 23:06:07 awesome 23:06:19 geekosaur: technically it's not a CPU use thing, I guess - it's "has this responded in 60 seconds" 23:06:19 pity that. SIGXCPU would be more helpful for diagnosis... 23:06:25 i just reloaded the page and then got the "stale processes" message 23:06:26 ah 23:06:27 it might be crawl itself that does this, come to think of it 23:06:34 and then had to restart from a ways back 23:06:39 00:15 <+ontoclasm> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype12.png 23:06:42 404 23:10:08 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:12:48 Grunt: wait, did you say DON'T? 23:12:58 bad Lasty 23:13:00 >:( 23:13:27 I actually didn't think that stone giant could do that much damage to me 23:13:50 @?? stone giant 23:13:51 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 69-108 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | XP: 1424 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 23:14:04 huh 23:14:54 yeh, stone giants are nasty 23:15:00 they're stone cold killers 23:15:15 I guess it must have been mighted 23:15:25 !lg lasty x=dam,sdam,tdam 23:15:26 474. [dam=52;sdam=52;tdam=57] Lasty the Sharpshooter (L19 DgHu), slain by a stone giant (kmap: st_eye) on Vaults:1 on 2015-10-31 03:12:42, with 286335 points after 82562 turns and 3:40:50. 23:15:30 very yes 23:15:46 @?? stone giant perm_ench:might 23:15:46 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 69-108 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 67 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | XP: 1424 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 23:15:57 @??juggernaut perm_ench:might 23:15:57 juggernaut (09C) | Spd: 15 (atk: 450%) | HD: 20 | HP: 155-185 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 180 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 7210 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 23:17:06 hm 23:17:23 !fight 3 juggernaut v the royal jelly delay:100 t:30 23:17:33 thought so 23:17:43 !fight cancel 23:17:46 !fight 7 juggernaut v the royal jelly delay:100 t:30 23:18:01 dang 23:18:07 !fight cancel 23:18:10 !fight 10 juggernaut v the royal jelly delay:100 t:30 23:18:19 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:18:22 d a n g 23:18:35 d a n g? 23:19:02 ?/dang 23:19:03 Matching entries (74): 1[1] | adder[1] | aizul[1] | ancient_champion[1] | bear[1] | black_mamba[1] | black_mark[2] | blink[6] | blork_the_orc[1] | boggart[1] | brimstone_fiend[1] | centaur_unreasons[1] | cheibriados_wrath[2] | creaks_loudly[1] | deep_elf_master_archer[1] | deep_elf_summoner[1] | donald[1] | dongtrain[1] | early_game[2] | elven_halls[2] | executioner[1] | famous_last_messages[15] |... 23:19:15 ??famous_last_words[15 23:19:15 famous last words[15/29]: someone on tavern suggested 23:19:31 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:19:32 hm 23:19:43 ??famous last messages[15 23:19:43 famous last messages[15/22]: DANG 23:19:48 haha 23:20:20 oh oops 23:21:47 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:31:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:35:06 -!- Lasty1 is now known as lasty 23:35:12 -!- lasty is now known as Lasty 23:35:27 03reaverb02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17-b1-4-g877c2ec: Don't mispell "leech" (player-equip.cc) 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/877c2ec004a3 23:35:51 03reaverb02 07* 0.18-a0-4-gb3e12ac: Don't mispell "leech" (player-equip.cc) 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3e12acbf4cf 23:35:54 um 23:36:26 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leach?s=t 23:36:30 it's not misspelled 23:36:57 geekosaur: Have you read the word defintions? 23:37:07 "to dissolve out soluble constituents from (ashes, soil, etc.) by percolation." 23:37:07 why yes, yes I did. you have a problem with that? 23:38:26 because "leech" isn't really a verb in that form (and verbing random nouns is rather modern), and "leach" is fairly close to the intent. if you dislike the use of "leach" then I suggest finding a different word entirely 23:41:28 Yeah double checking the definition I using "leach" like that isn't unreasonable. Any suggestions for the "different word entirely" ? 23:41:30 also I note that if you dislike "leach" on pedantry about its meaning, why is it acceptable to use a word that would refer to removing something while it's attached, but when you remove it 23:41:52 s/I // 23:42:22 chequers: oh, oops 23:42:36 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype/logotype12.png 23:42:41 i moved it and forgot 23:42:49 * geekosaur not really awake enough to think of good words though (which is probably why I'm leaning on pedantry there...) 23:43:33 possibly just "draws" 23:43:52 it could sap energy 23:44:20 draws sorta suggests that the amulet is becoming more powerful 23:44:36 "saps" as a swap for "leech" could also be good. 23:45:08 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:45:34 drain is another choice 23:45:49 amusingly the dictionary.com for saps doesn't recognize anything like Crawl uses it in "Sap Magic". 23:45:55 s/the// 23:46:10 I don't like Drain because Drain status is a thing. 23:46:48 i agree. just thinking of words 23:46:50 i don't see where leach is wrong there 23:46:56 technically Sap is a thing too 23:47:21 you could "lose your power into the amulet" 23:47:21 I think that usage of "sap" is possibly a regionalism to e.g. maple syrup production regions, tbh 23:47:22 yeah, but removing faith feels more like "power leaching away" than "being sapped by " 23:47:34 damn canadians 23:47:36 and vermonters 23:47:43 Why was the message added? I always though "GOD loses interest in you" was clear enough... 23:47:56 * geekosaur notes that he lives about a half hour drive from Ohio's maple syrup producing region 23:48:12 ohio has a maple syrup producing region? 23:48:14 who knew? 23:48:16 yep 23:48:32 You feel forlorn... 23:48:36 heh 23:48:37 mostly confined to geauga and portage counties 23:48:45 i have no idea where those are 23:48:57 southeast of Cleveland 23:49:05 i agree it's kinda weird to be losing power anyway. your god losing interest in you seems like the obvious thing that removing faith does 23:49:25 ah 23:49:31 that's where it would make sense to be 23:49:34 bbiab 23:50:12 How old is this message? I've literally never noticed it before today, but the git blame goes back a while. 23:50:41 Uh looks like it predates me, wow. 23:52:04 I think I might just remove the "leach" message, I think the "GOD loses interest in you" alone is clearer than having multiple messages. 23:54:24 does anyone know if there is any kind of reasoning behind what goes into game_state vs what is just a global 23:54:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:21 come to think of it "ebb" might work there 23:55:41 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55:41 I think game_state tends to have interface options? which is the exact opposite of what the name suggests so idk. 23:56:07 crawlcode, reasoning. there seems to be a disconnect here 23:56:09 :p 23:56:10 geekosaur: Do you think "FOO_GOD loses interest in you." is clear enough alone? 23:56:16 yeah, i guess 23:56:25 well, it's not necessarily obvious that you lose piety from that 23:56:52 globals it is i suppose (not that crawl_state is any less of a global, but) 23:57:24 geekosaur: What else do you think somebody would interpret it to be? 23:57:32 Maybe "You feel less pious?" 23:57:38 s/?/./ 23:57:58 the direction of crawl messages seems to be to make things more explicit rather than implicit 23:58:16 if you know crawl then it couldn't mean much else than piety. if you're new, it's not necessarily obvious 23:58:49 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:59:23 What do you think about "You feel less pious."?