00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:13 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:07:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:12:30 -!- namad7 has quit [] 00:13:14 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:17:03 hey nice 00:17:13 !vault lemuel_statue_altar 00:17:13 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/altar.des#l176 00:17:27 lemuel is *still* doing his machinations in forest 00:17:35 ahahaha 00:22:49 Grunt: how do you feel about new ocs and the hall of zot statues? 00:22:56 shadow c. is pretty brutal at that location 00:23:18 and we did remove shadow c. from ancient liches; this statue will have a lot of surrounding monsters as it is 00:23:32 tbh it seems that maybe only obsidian statues there would be best 00:24:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:24:23 in hall_of_Zot? 00:24:25 yes 00:24:28 hm 00:24:47 I mean I don't think it's way out of line, since the chance of it is pretty rare and you can choose another lung 00:25:01 and they're only 70hp with low defenses overall 00:25:09 @??orange crystal statue 00:25:09 orange crystal statue (048) | Spd: 6 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living, evil, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy | XP: 412 | Sp: brain feed [06!sil], draining gaze [06!sil], mass confusion [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 00:25:18 these new ocs will act faster 00:25:56 not quite as fast as lunar statue but faster than 6 @ 30% chance of acting 00:26:04 @??lunar statue 00:26:05 lunar statue (138) | Spd: 6 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living, evil, unbreathing, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy | XP: 450 | Sp: brain feed [11!AM, 06!sil], draining gaze [11!AM, 06!sil], crystal spear (3d28) [11!AM, 06!sil], shadow creatures [11!AM, 06!sil.. 00:26:17 speed 10 with 50% chance 00:26:23 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:26:25 not quite lunar statue levels 00:26:34 i dunno, i guess it could draw a boatload of draconians 00:26:36 so that you cant get to it 00:26:41 but then you just leave 00:26:44 right 00:26:51 -!- swartzcr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:27:07 it was a big problem with a. liches, but those move and we also didn't like how it was literally the most dangerous summon they could have 00:27:31 (fr: bring back blue deaths) 00:27:34 ??blue death[2 00:27:34 I don't have a page labeled blue_death[2] in my learndb. 00:27:36 ??blue death 00:27:36 blue death[1/1]: Churchmouse the Blademaster (L27 HaWn), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by a deep elf sorcerer (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))))) in Zig:21 on 2011-08-02, with 649571 points after 98719 turns and 13:08:27. 00:27:43 haha 00:27:59 woah, what did blue deaths have? 00:28:02 I believe that's still the longest kpath on record 00:28:12 blue deaths had Shadow Creatures and... something else 00:28:16 wow, weird 00:28:25 they eventually became blizzard demons, so I think the other spell was either lightning bolt or freezing cloud 00:28:31 that was back when summons persisted after their summoners' deaths, ofc 00:28:32 I feel shadow creatures is more an "orange" spell 00:28:34 hard to beat now 00:28:39 %git caa05f8 00:28:39 07doy02 * 0.9-a1-95-gcaa05f8: blue death -> blizzard demon 10(4 years, 6 months ago, 15 files, 29+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/caa05f85f231 00:28:48 good doy commit 00:28:57 oh, it was lightning bolt + bolt of cold 00:29:04 remember when we were going to rename all the goofy color name monsters 00:29:08 like orange demon 00:29:13 !send PleasingFungus tempest tyrants 00:29:14 Sending tempest tyrants to PleasingFungus. 00:29:17 ah yes, lightning bolt, destroyer of worlds 00:29:18 I'm 90% sure orange demon is some kind of energy drink. 00:29:29 !lg . place=vaults:5 gfspeed s=ckaux 00:29:30 43 games for gammafunk (place=vaults:5 gfspeed): 14x, 7x large rock, 4x bolt of lightning, 2x dire flail, 2x iron shot, great blast of fire, glaive, freezing blast, bolt of frost, bolt of negative energy, great sword, great mace, orb of destruction, battleaxe of freezing, bolt of cold, by the air, poisoned bolt, stone, bolt 00:29:39 !lg * max=kpath x=kpath 00:29:45 4800513. [kpath=woven by Mara] IamThem the Brawler (L17 TrMo of Yredelemnul), mangled by IamThem's illusion (woven by Mara) on Vaults:6 on 2010-04-03 22:37:56, with 171887 points after 42134 turns and 4:07:31. 00:29:48 1learn add orange_demon I'm 90% sure orange demon is some kind of energy drink. 00:29:50 does max=kpath even do what I want? 00:29:56 !lg * max=length(kpath) 00:29:57 no probably string sort 00:30:02 4800513. Churchmouse the Blademaster (L27 HaWn of Okawaru), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by a deep elf sorcerer (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))))) on Zig:21 on 2011-08-02 13:41:31, with 649571 points after 98719 turns and 13:08:27. 00:30:02 notice 'w' 00:30:05 !lg * max=length(kpath) -2 00:30:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:09 4800513/4800514. sorear the Marksminotaur (L13 MiGl of Yredelemnul), killed by an exploding giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore)))) on D:11 on 2009-11-23 04:28:29, with 37349 points after 19708 turns and 2:06:31. 00:30:13 1g . vaults:5 s=ckaux 00:30:14 oh yeah, length() 00:30:17 ugh 00:30:21 1g indeed... 00:30:21 ??ugh 00:30:21 I don't have a page labeled ugh in my learndb. Did you mean: gh, ugt. 00:30:26 ??ugt 00:30:26 ugt[1/1]: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html 00:30:30 !lg * max=length(kpath) -3 00:30:31 tha heck 00:30:34 4800512/4800514. polystyrus the Transmogrifier (L12 SETm of Sif Muna), killed by an exploding giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore)))) on D:11 on 2010-01-05 23:53:04, with 19181 points after 18777 turns and 2:15:14. 00:30:37 !lg * max=length(kpath) -4 00:30:40 4800511/4800514. dpeque the Destroyer (L13 DrVM of Cheibriados), killed by an exploding giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore)))) on D:12 on 2010-02-06 15:09:27, with 46994 points after 48132 turns and 3:54:32. 00:30:48 wow, that's extremely IRC. 00:30:50 !lg * max=length(kpath) vmsg!~~spore -2 00:30:58 4795724/4795725. hagidong the Peltast (L22 GrFi of Okawaru), blown up by a cacodemon (summoned by a spectral elf (summoned by a spectral elf (summoned by a deep elf death mage (led by an ironheart preserver)))) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2014-02-21 12:12:52, with 361505 points after 68169 turns and 4:14:58. 00:31:03 <3 00:31:16 I like it, but it will never work 00:31:22 like spivak pronouns, it will never work 00:31:29 good ugt, gammafunk 00:31:30 <.< 00:31:32 summoned by a spectral elf (summoned by a spectral elf 00:31:46 PleasingFungus: read: "ghostly deep elf death mage" 00:32:21 yep 00:32:28 !lg * max=length(kpath) vmsg!~~spore -3 00:32:36 4795727/4795729. Rassilon the Blocker (L14 MiFi of Trog), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by a deep elf demonologist (summoned by a shadow demon (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))) on Elf:5 on 2012-04-07 08:33:27, with 48744 points after 29859 turns and 2:58:50. 00:32:40 @??orc warlord 00:32:40 orc warlord (11o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 86-134 | AC/EV: 12/7 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1669 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:32:42 @??orc 00:32:43 orc (04o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 4-10 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 3 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:32:45 fr summons of summons should be spectral without spells 00:32:54 of course, we still have "zombie orc" (hd 1) and "zombie orc" (hd 15) 00:33:01 orc zombie, sorry 00:33:01 I'm going to leave them in hall of zot then, and we can discuss when the first player rage post occurs 00:33:10 that's the spirit! 00:33:17 chequers: your boat has passed. 00:33:54 chequers, quit while already on Charon's boat 00:33:58 summons of summons should be all eldritch tentacles 00:34:06 !send gammafunk eldritch abominations 00:34:07 Sending eldritch abominations to gammafunk. 00:34:12 (I wish I still had that patch) 00:34:26 I like that they don't exist as git branches, only patches 00:34:34 chequers: (to be clear, lost souls no longer make spectral monsters, they make 'ghostly' monsters that don't have this specific problem) 00:35:34 actually, i was just thinking about kpath explosion 00:35:41 and 'find the real boggart' minigame 00:36:08 well, the real one doesn't have a purple dot on its tile. 00:36:15 gammafunk: that would be a really nice final commit before freeze 00:36:34 -!- shrink has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:36:38 dont mention it in changelog, and be all "what? that's always happened, you not seeing it is just sampling bias" 00:37:01 remember the double damage bug 00:37:22 chequers: don't spend all of your good april 1st ideas at once! 00:37:26 %git cyc 00:37:26 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-1773-ged48617: Increase weight of scroll of blinking. 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed486176fdd0 00:37:36 we should grow that for next april 1st imo 00:37:38 i stand corrected 00:37:49 remind me to get Farmers properly ready for 1 April <.< 00:38:02 if you have them, you could commit to cyc 00:38:10 chequers: neat 00:38:13 oh probably not, you said properly ready 00:38:14 I don't have them :b 00:38:15 where's that from? 00:38:33 (i assume ontoclasm means the tiles compliment) 00:38:45 yes 00:38:46 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:38:49 sorry 00:38:56 every time I see that ?blink commit, I think it's talking about inventory weight 00:39:17 heh, like a loadstone from nethack, but it has +Blink 00:39:18 oh, i thought that it was 00:39:35 hence the cyc 00:40:22 hey 00:40:24 hey 00:40:26 gammafunk: get this 00:40:31 it's like ?tele, but instead it explodes 00:40:45 it's my new scroll idea 00:40:49 ontoclasm: gammafunk had a reddit link 00:41:05 PleasingFungus: so you read the scroll, get the Tele status, and a few turns later... you explode? 00:41:12 Bomb status 00:41:14 imho 00:41:28 have the status light alternate 00:41:29 like a bomb in a shmup 00:41:31 between "Tick" and "Tock" 00:41:36 !!! 00:41:48 ok now i'm convinced 00:42:26 So it's like a delayed cleansing flame? 00:42:36 it should put a bomb in your inventory that you 'F' somewhere 00:43:14 heh 00:43:29 reaverb: something like that. the motivation is that the ?tele delayed-activation mechanic is cool and we should re-use it; the obvious problem is that damage is something that you're going to use in more boring ways than escape, e.g. pop right before going to fight asmodeus or whoever 00:43:36 counter strike: stone soup 00:43:43 fire in the hole! 00:43:53 potion of detonations 00:43:59 mm 00:44:00 drink for bonus fun 00:44:16 here's another take on this whole idea: 00:44:19 spore form. 00:44:25 "sporm" 00:44:35 You explode! 00:44:38 "if i'm going down, you're comin' with me?" 00:44:39 does spore form transition into ballistomycete form? 00:44:46 @??deep_elf_conjurer 00:44:47 deep elf conjurer (02e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 34-48 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 603 | Sp: b.fire (3d17), b.cold (3d17), b.lightning (3d16), b.draining (3d17) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:44:55 gammafunk: what about those? 00:44:57 fr: hypoactive ballistomycetes 00:45:45 also, if you have no inventory space, it drops at your feet 00:46:09 then you have to drop something, pick it up, and throw it before it detonates 00:46:12 reminds me of diablo 3 witch doctor chicken bomb 00:46:23 eg in spore form you explode and reappear at full health 00:46:25 Grunt: I'm trying to remove instances of ice statues in branches where they're trivial 00:46:36 you're encouragd to dive into the middle of packs 00:46:37 at the very least if it's a solo-statue in the vault 00:46:45 if there are supporting monsters it's maybe not so bad 00:46:49 heh 00:46:54 just wanted to see what spells all the squishy elves had 00:47:00 aren't there always supporting monsters? 00:47:06 de mages do place in elf (which is no surprise) 00:47:08 i.e. ice beasts? 00:47:18 those are very trivial 00:47:23 in the branches I'm concerned about 00:47:28 i always have trouble with statues in any situation unless i have fulminant prism 00:47:46 have you tried running away? 00:47:50 that is most likely PBKAC 00:47:51 gammafunk: I have Plans(tm) in the works for Elf 00:47:51 boring 00:47:52 well, besides that, obviously 00:48:04 Grunt: yeah, I'm just going to adjust a solo-statue vault 00:48:07 k 00:48:07 i meant killing them 00:48:09 not the ones with any other monsters 00:48:12 mostly i just avoid until i'm stronger 00:48:48 Grunt: Not sure I agree with merging a bunch of Elf monsters together, as chequers mentioned it would mean the player can't treat them differently. Why is havng "too many" elves stopping somebody from adding more melee-ish monsters to the branch? 00:48:52 I love the Orc patch though. 00:49:34 this pie is delicious 00:49:39 a) we have enough *melee* elves already imo; b) we're out of e glyph room; c) do players on Elf:3 really treat all of the squishy elves differently anyway? 00:49:57 the undead and lcs ones I do 00:50:12 the rest of the mages are pretty boring, including the hellfire priest 00:50:16 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:17 maybe instead of fusing a bunch of elves together, just remove some 00:50:42 notable elves that i wouldn't miss: summoners, death mages, conjurers 00:50:50 hellfire priest is at least amusing as the most heavy metal elf 00:50:55 but I would not miss him either 00:51:01 he's so thematic...! 00:51:05 Grunt: What kind of monsters do you want to add to elf? 00:51:09 [elves c20029b] Default to stone walls on Elf:$. 00:51:16 well at least we don't need both priests and high priests 00:51:20 "I'm coming for you and and don't care if I blow myself up!" 00:51:31 ontoclasm: is that also true for orcs? 00:51:31 yeah stone walls 00:51:42 or just give elves digging? 00:51:43 agreed that merging elves seems like it's a reduction in ui quality without any current purpose 00:51:46 like, all of them, all the time 00:51:48 PleasingFungus: orcs are spread across a much bigger area of the dungeon 00:51:56 Can't they just be Not Elves if we're out of e glyph room? Also seconding that elf conjureres/summoners seem removable, I like death mages though. 00:52:00 !send ontoclasm Vaults 00:52:00 Sending Vaults to ontoclasm. 00:52:03 elf priests and high priests are like, 1 floor apart 00:52:04 or the other way 00:52:23 !send Vaults PleasingFungus 00:52:24 Sending PleasingFungus to Vaults. 00:52:28 yes, exactly. 00:52:42 reaverb: I had a vague idea for 'elemental hounds' as an elf enemy 00:52:47 Grunt: i treat demonologists and annihilators with more respect 00:52:51 fr monster invis lasts less time 00:52:56 i guess to put it another way, just remove elvish priests and have high priests spawn a little bit on E:1-2 00:52:58 reaverb: I don't have any strongly-defined ideas at this point in time other than the semi-nebulous concept of an enemy analogous to master archers as knights are to blademasters. 00:53:05 on the notion that (1) elves like to do weird magic experimentation shit (2) elf has a sort of mechanical theme of asking for a lot of resists 00:53:24 the mountain dwarves finally have tunneled straight through to the elven halls! 00:53:32 !send PleasingFungus hell hounds 00:53:32 Sending hell hounds to PleasingFungus. 00:53:34 so you could have an enemy that randomly hits for fire/ice/elec/? 00:53:34 !send PleasingFungus raiju 00:53:34 Sending raiju to PleasingFungus. 00:53:41 yeah, as elliptic has pointed out, for actually completing elf, MR is something that people overrate a lot 00:53:43 !send PleasingFungus chaos spawn 00:53:43 Sending chaos spawn to PleasingFungus. 00:53:45 single enemy type with a vaguely - yes 00:53:50 but elf does check a lot of resists 00:53:52 except chaos spawn don't do anything 00:53:59 !send PleasingFungus Chaos Nexuses 00:53:59 Sending Chaos Nexuses to PleasingFungus. 00:54:02 ! 00:54:02 borrow elemental hounds from angband 00:54:03 @??chaos spawn 00:54:03 chaos spawn (163) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 24-43 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 2109(chaos) | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 183 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 00:54:07 ontoclasm: that was the thematic inspiration 00:54:10 did I show you that patch or no, PleasingFungus? 00:54:14 they're... terrifying 00:54:14 mm 00:54:15 I don't recall it. 00:54:18 (in multiple ways) 00:54:19 sec 00:54:25 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:54:25 mbeasts 00:54:28 duh 00:54:30 it's part of a local branch of mine that mostly isn't going to go anywhere 00:54:30 though of course angband "hounds" are in no way hound-like 00:54:31 you already made them 00:54:45 they're weird pack things with breath attacks 00:55:07 PleasingFungus: http://sprunge.us/AQSb 00:55:11 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:13 Grunt: A weaker elven archer? How is that different from the current elven conjurer? 00:55:21 (the design needs refinement and/or being taken out and shot) 00:55:22 (Since they're both ranged focused enemies). 00:55:54 reaverb: conjurations can mostly be resisted in various forms; plain ranged attacks less so. 00:56:07 Grunt: VERY anti-melee :P 00:56:13 and also, we basically concluded that conjurers are going away <.< 00:56:40 So? you still try to break LOS and try to let them approach you. resists just mildly change the difficutly. 00:56:58 {AF_FIRE, AF_COLD, AF_ELEC, AF_POISON, AF_VAMPIRIC, AF_DISTORT, AF_CONFUSE, AF_CHAOS} <- this is nastier than what I was thinking of, mainly because the worst-case (a subset of AF_DISTORT, AF_CHAOS effects) is very bad 00:57:13 reaverb: do you treat annihilators and master archers differently? 00:57:22 they're both just ranged attackers, right? 00:57:54 one is perhaps mildly more difficult than the other, right? 00:58:26 {AF_FIRE, AF_COLD, AF_ELEC} or {AF_FIRE, AF_COLD, AF_ELEC, AF_ACID} would be a simpler, less 'spiky' damage type 00:58:30 if that makes any sense? 00:58:33 Not really, can't say I have too much experince in elf >_>. Generally I treat deep elf archers as more difficult, but that could also be acomplished by buffing annihilator HD. 00:58:35 !send PleasingFungus AF_KLOWN 00:58:35 Sending AF_KLOWN to PleasingFungus. 00:58:37 i feel like the Problem with Elves is that there's no reason to ever let them shoot you, and outside of blademasters they're trash in melee range 00:58:50 I lost a char to a melee-range master archer 00:59:02 !lg . elf:3 s=ikiller 00:59:02 One game for PleasingFungus (elf:3): a deep elf master archer 00:59:05 hint: annihilators and master archers have rather different attack behaviour 00:59:06 haha 00:59:10 Oh yes master archers will shoot you in melee. 00:59:12 okay, i guess marchers are sort-of okay up close 00:59:26 in particular master archers are a lot more trigger-happy 00:59:39 @??deep_elf_master_archer 00:59:39 deep elf master archer (15e) | Spd: 10 (msl: 50%) | HD: 15 | HP: 67-84 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2488 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:59:42 msl: 50% 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:45 Ok yeah I guess that is enough a difference <_<. Just wasn't what I was expecting on new monster designs for elf. 01:00:57 {AF_POISON_STRONG, AF_PAIN, AF_DRAIN_SPEED, AF_FIRE, AF_COLD, AF_ELEC, AF_ANTIMAGIC, AF_ACID}. A little more variable but I'd be fine with reusing this for a weaker, elf-tier enemy 01:00:58 also DEMA and DEBM can't see invis 01:01:01 maybe a pack enemy 01:01:10 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:01:13 Klown Houn' 01:01:20 PleasingFungus: imo call them 01:01:23 subtractor snakes. 01:01:24 * Grunt hides. 01:01:27 well, I'm not sure it's great to have so many af_types 01:01:30 * PleasingFungus hisses angrily! 01:01:37 I guess af_chaos is just too random 01:01:50 gammafunk: that's why we're talking about reusing AF_KLOWN here 01:01:55 yeah 01:02:02 maybe it could stand a rename 01:02:05 if it gets wider use 01:02:06 pfft 01:02:11 (probably) 01:02:18 I don't think AF_KLOWN should be used anywhere other than its current use. 01:02:25 I've not super fond of the threat level of killer klowns, but that's unrelated 01:02:37 need an elvish assassin 01:02:50 deep elf enchanter 01:02:54 What would elven assassins do? 01:02:57 Klown Chihuahua 01:03:08 Grunt: Why? 01:03:10 * Grunt recalls the old spriggan enchanter... 01:03:16 PleasingFungus: because. <.< 01:03:19 elvish john connery, "I'm an elvish ashashin..." 01:03:24 We wouldn't have the random klown verbs 01:03:26 obviously 01:03:32 those have to be reserved. 01:03:44 that's the whole point of AF_KLOWN. :b 01:03:47 it's 01:03:49 curare + pproj 01:03:52 :Y 01:04:00 not a part of af_klown 01:04:03 it's completely unrelated 01:04:05 in the code :) 01:04:07 ontoclasm: actually I was thinking of more of a support enchanter 01:04:09 ok I see what's happening, grunt is just making elf into a big version of that one player character monster vault he made for crypt 01:04:16 sort of like naga enchanters before they were distorted into naga ritualists 01:04:25 gammafunk: shh 01:04:28 !send Grunt spriggan enchanters 01:04:29 Sending spriggan enchanters to Grunt. 01:04:35 !send PleasingFungus spriggan assassins 01:04:35 Sending spriggan assassins to PleasingFungus. 01:04:38 * PleasingFungus dies! 01:05:02 How stupid is this idea: Elf that casts brillance on other elves (makes them cast spells more and have higher spellpower). 01:05:28 haste other 01:05:29 have it lock them in place while the effect is in effect 01:05:39 give it to priests 01:05:41 elvish lieutenant 01:05:42 make it not an elf but some sort of pet that elves would keep 01:05:43 Brilliance Aura imho 01:05:48 Aura of Brilliance 01:05:51 Grunt: ! 01:05:56 o/ 01:06:01 \o 01:06:19 or have it be a statue 01:06:21 can monsters cast buffs whiel you can't see them 01:06:22 That's it, Grunt did it. Crawl development is now done 01:06:24 while* 01:06:38 i feel like they sometimes can 01:06:40 ontoclasm: only in very specific circumstances 01:06:53 ontoclasm: they will use healing spells out of LOS as soon as they can 01:06:58 hypractvChipmunk: that seems like it'd encourage boring player behavior 01:07:00 ontoclasm: and can also Dig out of LOS 01:07:10 statues are a Sometimes Enemy. 01:07:15 at most! 01:07:21 i prefer the pet anyway 01:07:32 mana kitten 01:07:36 I actually like the idea of giving that ability to priests; it's kind of like the hypothetical Zin recite to buff allies before Recite took its current form. 01:07:48 (high priests in particular) 01:08:19 some sort of magic-themed wispy critter or something 01:08:30 anyway I'm going to sleep 01:08:31 ontoclasm: Fortifying Felids 01:08:31 or a mana kitten 01:08:35 I'll think more about this tomorrow 01:08:40 hypractvChipmunk: call it the vapour 01:08:42 imho 01:08:43 <_< 01:08:49 >_> 01:08:55 spell ferret 01:09:03 elves seem like the kind of dudes to have a ferret 01:09:07 yes 01:09:09 they do 01:09:14 this seems like the perfect excuse to introduce 01:09:18 enemy felids. 01:09:20 * Grunt flees in terror. 01:09:31 also, obligatory dire badgers 01:09:32 all the non-elves avoid going into the elvish halls because it smells but they're too polite to say anything 01:09:51 Grunt: felid mummies....... their time has come! 01:09:56 felich 01:10:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:10:51 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2220-g6fea741 (34) 01:11:01 If you kill natash all three times, you always encounter an incredibly powerul natasha ancient felich in Tomb 01:11:09 actually, thinking more it'd be kinda neat for some caster monsters to have familiars 01:11:33 would put more variety in some places 01:12:38 and we know wizards are supposed to have them 01:12:41 it was cool, back when tengu would come with raven pals 01:12:44 isn't that in Natasha's lore? 01:12:45 the good old days... 01:12:53 -!- ChongLi_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:55 oh, that is neat 01:13:05 more like that 01:13:15 hypractvChipmunk: her lore is that she got lost & separated from boris, pre-lichification 01:13:17 iirc 01:13:21 there's some room for interpretation 01:13:23 but yeah she's a familiar 01:13:25 heh 01:14:23 i figured she was the one from the Felid description 01:14:30 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15:00 "abandoned, outlived, or in one case, eviscerated their former masters" or something like that 01:15:22 i've never seen a boris 01:15:41 but applaud the reference, ofc 01:16:14 A magical cat. Once a powerful wizard's familiar, Natasha was abandoned after her master was consumed by the very necromantic forces he sought to control. Now she patrols the dungeon, taking a bloody vengeance with spell and claw upon any adventurer who crosses her path. 01:16:30 ah, nevermind then 01:17:05 well, we need that eviscerator in the game somewhere then 01:17:11 you may also be amused by 01:17:15 A feline creature that has been granted sentience by magical means. It uses the gift of speech to demand milk, treats and catnip. 01:17:16 -!- shnurlf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:17:18 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:17:21 ('felid' monster) 01:17:23 >8D hehehe 01:18:02 but the bit of lore from the manual apparently really stuck out in my mind and was itching to be hung on the one felid i'd seen in the dungeon 01:18:19 if it is so for me, i imagine it is for others, too 01:18:28