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What should I do with it? 00:50:05 (most recent commit) 00:50:42 Actually I suppose I could debug it 00:51:14 <|amethyst> ??mantis 00:51:14 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 00:51:15 adomurad: Make a save backup, report it on mantis 00:51:20 <|amethyst> file a bug and upload it there 00:51:25 <|amethyst> I'm assuming this is local 00:51:37 <|amethyst> but, yeah, backup or upload the save before you do any debugging 00:52:50 Yeah ok I wasnt sure I could make a bug with 'this save file is broken' 00:53:06 <|amethyst> well, if it took wizmode to get there it might not really be a bug :) 00:53:08 ill try to get a stack trace and file a bug, thanks 00:53:19 It wasnt, it was a low level arcane marksman, froze on 'f' 00:53:26 <|amethyst> weird 00:57:20 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57:40 Other question, is there any where can I find a resource on planned dev work? 00:57:58 <|amethyst> there are some things on our dev wiki, but 00:58:07 <|amethyst> this channel is really the best place :) 00:58:10 <|amethyst> ??0.17 plan 00:58:10 0.17 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.17_plan 00:58:13 <|amethyst> ??0.18 plan 00:58:13 I don't have a page labeled 0.18_plan in my learndb. Did you mean: 0.14_plan, 0.15_plan, 0.16_plan, 0.17_plan. 00:58:47 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:long_term_plans 00:59:02 my 0.18 plan is to take over crawl dev and kick everyone else out 00:59:05 don't tell them 00:59:06 <|amethyst> except many of those "future" plans are long past 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:29 Did the spider god ever get in? 01:04:57 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2215-g49c1de0 (34) 01:05:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06:01 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-2215-g49c1de0 (34) 01:08:40 Great. Backed up the wrong save. oh well 01:08:53 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:09:17 there's no spider god 01:09:59 hypractvChipmunk: sounds bogus 01:10:10 you'll probably just turn everything into inner flae 01:10:17 flame 01:10:17 =p 01:11:30 >8D 01:11:59 immolation scrolls will be a level 6 hex 01:12:10 because that's as high as i can ever get 01:12:39 heh 01:13:25 i plan to keep tornado as the only level 9 spell i've learned 01:14:16 also, the monster generation for every level will use the parameters for the orcish mines 01:15:23 except orc priests are right out 01:18:10 tornado is the most practical one really 01:20:27 you'll change my mind when I add yaknado 01:20:36 er 01:20:44 you'll change *your* mind 01:21:04 <|amethyst> !send gammafunk Zombeavers 01:21:05 Sending Zombeavers to gammafunk. 01:21:52 @??porcupine zombie name:Not_a_zombeaver 01:21:52 Not a zombeaver (07Z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 24-42 | AC/EV: 0/7 | Dam: 12 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(5), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 35 | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 01:22:14 <|amethyst> @??human perm_ench:zombeaver 01:22:14 unknown ench: "zombeaver" 01:22:18 <|amethyst> FR 01:32:19 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:53 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:33:49 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:35:02 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 01:42:20 Loynis (L15 TrEn) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 556: mid cache bogosity: mid 2833 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=43 mid=0 (Abyss:1) 01:46:09 <|amethyst> I wish I had any clue about those mid cache problems 01:46:21 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash noun~~mid_cache s=place 01:46:22 29 milestones for * (current crash noun~~mid_cache): 9x Depths:2, 9x Abyss:1, 7x Snake:3, 2x Orc:4, 2x Abyss:3 01:46:31 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash noun~~mid_cache s=god 01:46:32 29 milestones for * (current crash noun~~mid_cache): 18x Beogh, 4x The Shining One, 3x Kikubaaqudgha, 2x Jiyva, Okawaru, Zin 01:46:57 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash noun~~mid_cache s=god,place 01:46:57 29 milestones for * (current crash noun~~mid_cache): 18x Beogh (9x Depths:2, 7x Snake:3, 2x Orc:4), 4x The Shining One (4x Abyss:1), 3x Kikubaaqudgha (3x Abyss:1), 2x Jiyva (2x Abyss:3), Zin (Abyss:1), Okawaru (Abyss:1) 01:47:09 <|amethyst> all the non-beogh ones are in the abyss 01:47:15 <|amethyst> so I guess two separate bugs 01:47:53 <|amethyst> something beogh something followers something, and something abyss something something 01:48:09 oh 01:48:11 Loynis (L15 TrEn) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 556: mid cache bogosity: mid 3032 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=47 mid=0 (Abyss:1) 01:48:22 you know I wonder if this is the same bug that caused my polymorphed... 01:48:32 you know there's a lot of chaos clouds in the abyss that polymorph things.. 01:48:51 you had to fix a game of mine where my orc high priest got polied into an ast somehow 01:49:03 which was really cool at first but the monster got duplicated 01:49:11 and then I couldn't enter v:4 or so without crashing 01:49:26 so I had to edit the save, removing the duplicated orc monster 01:49:32 <|amethyst> the implementation of interlevel recall is somewhat questionable 01:49:39 ah, yeah 01:49:56 <|amethyst> I mean, given how levels work in crawl there might not be a better option 01:50:09 <|amethyst> but there have been plenty of bugs and I'm sure will be plenty more 01:50:16 the problem seemed to being with that polymorph but I have no idea how the poly happened 01:50:25 probably just a monster with a wand, I guess 01:50:43 not sure if af_chaos can also duplicate your allies 01:50:56 like how the clouds can duplicate monsters 01:51:18 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash abyss -log 01:51:19 26. Loynis, XL15 TrEn, T:27654 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/Loynis/crash-Loynis-20151027-054808.txt 01:51:21 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash abyss -2 -log 01:51:22 25/26. Loynis, XL15 TrEn, T:27297 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/Loynis/crash-Loynis-20151027-054217.txt 01:51:23 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash abyss -3 -log 01:51:24 24/26. stevs, XL27 NaWz, T:117912 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/stevs/crash-stevs-20151026-213639.txt 01:51:26 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash abyss -4 -log 01:51:27 23/26. stevs, XL27 NaWz, T:116983 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/stevs/crash-stevs-20151026-213051.txt 01:51:28 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash abyss -6 -log 01:51:30 21/26. ydungwoo, XL24 NaFi, T:49106 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/ydungwoo/crash-ydungwoo-20151021-115726.txt 01:51:31 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash abyss -8 -log 01:51:32 19/26. dydxz10, XL27 KoAr, T:83898 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/dydxz10/crash-dydxz10-20151015-091807.txt 01:52:35 <|amethyst> !lm * current crash abyss noun~~mid_cache -log -8 01:52:37 5/12. Starve, XL26 MiTm, T:65815 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/Starve/crash-Starve-20151013-184916.txt 01:52:54 <|amethyst> those are all in maybe_shift_abyss_around_player 01:53:13 <|amethyst> but I guess that could just be because those are the only times check_map_validity is called in the abyss? 01:53:54 crash right after vehumet lcs wrath, nice 01:55:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:58:38 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:59:01 -!- ololoev has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:59:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:21 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:03:19 * ProzacElf changes gammafunk's mind when he adds yaknado 02:03:38 <|amethyst> Dummy Monster throws chaos at NONEXISTENT FOE. 02:03:41 <|amethyst> wizmode reasons 02:03:47 <|amethyst> ??it[/Dummy 02:03:48 I don't have a page labeled it[/Dummy in my learndb. 02:03:58 <|amethyst> !learn add it Dummy Monster throws chaos at NONEXISTENT FOE. 02:03:58 it[44/44]: Dummy Monster throws chaos at NONEXISTENT FOE. 02:15:38 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:02 ??dumb 02:16:02 dumb[1/2]: <|amethyst> that's dumb 02:16:12 ??dumb[2 02:16:12 dumb[2/2]: that's dumb 02:18:16 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:27:05 informative 02:29:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:30:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:30:56 -!- MetallicDragon has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 02:39:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50:31 -!- speranza_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:59:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08:29 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 03:09:38 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:14:43 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2215-g49c1de0 (34) 03:17:54 -!- gazzien has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 03:19:36 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:24:16 I was going crazy until I figured out that autopickup (the option) doesn't allow use of += 03:24:21 yet it doesn't warn you about it 03:24:27 it just reassigns it 03:25:03 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:26:49 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:41:15 ??potion_of_porridge 03:41:16 potion of porridge[1/1]: A special treat for Oliver Twist! 6040 nutrition. Gluggy white or gluggy brown potion. 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This is bad. 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Would perhaps be better to have a candidate for a new amulet. :) 11:10:17 I'm in favor of removing the rMut amulet and replacing it with something else. One suggestion was a +mp regen amulet, but I'm not wild about that. 11:11:02 I musta missed something. rMut is OP? 11:11:15 malmutators are scary,,, 11:12:36 pblur: that patch to remove Rmut is inadequete, look here for the kind of changes needed to remmove an amulet: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=afd1d1232c60c598fa064e3417b928de33d77a49 11:12:46 AFAIC, this is not about OP, but more about interesting decisions. 11:13:18 If we want to increase amulet decisions we should decide what power level we want amulets to be at. 11:13:41 The current amulet vary by orders of mangitude in usefulness. 11:13:45 s/amulet/amulets/ 11:14:17 reaverb: absolutely 11:14:37 plathrop: no, it's more like crown of torment -- it's not that scary, but if it's going to exist, there shouldn't be an item that makes it stop existing for the rest of the game. 11:14:38 or whether amulets should be longterm vs shortterm things 11:14:54 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:15:07 Lasty_: ah, okay, I guess I understand that 11:15:17 IMO amulets should be long-term things that are quite powerful -- guardian spirit and faith are the ones that I think currently work well 11:16:14 Regen would be an easy fix, buff the regen until it's competitive and add some strategic cost to toggling it. 11:17:06 reaverb: yeah, something like that 11:17:19 {gourmound, resist corrison, stasis, warding} are the main ones that strike me as problematic, assuming ID game and therefore inacc should continue to exist. 11:17:30 (in addition to rmut) 11:17:44 Clarity just seems not as useful as Faith etc. 11:17:51 Perhaps Faith should be nerfed? 11:18:24 Faith is really good, when I'm wearing it, it is hard to decide if I want to swap it out 11:18:42 The correct answer is almost always never. 11:19:03 IMO redo warding to fit with the goals; remove/replace gourmand; make rCorr a ring or armour ego and remove/replace the amulet; remove/replace rMut; redo warding to fit with the goals; maybe keep stasis as-is; redo regen to fit with the goals. 11:19:07 really? I believe you, I just often choose to because you can regain piety 11:19:23 but I'm a bad player 11:19:28 I'm not sure what to do w/ Stasis 11:19:47 w/stasis I was thinking removing the -Tele effect, giving it to Fo independantly. 11:19:50 I don't really like it or think it's interesting, but I can see why something similar to it should exist, but I don't know what it would look like 11:19:54 Lasty_: sounds like a really good plan 11:20:14 dpeg: now I just need to fill in 99% of the details 11:20:14 haha 11:20:15 giving -Tele to Fo independantly. 11:20:16 Lasty_: couldn't we put stasis on some consumable 11:20:29 Lasty_: yes, 99% of the details is always the crux 11:20:33 (BTW, thanks for answering my stupid questions, I'm learning a lot about game design here) 11:20:48 phathrop: faith at full piety means you can spam abilities more. 11:20:49 I wouldn't call those stupid questions 11:20:57 god abilities. 11:21:02 They're more like FAQs, really :D 11:21:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:21:55 I think any amulet changes should be through of as "try to make amulets around as good and long-term as faith", with the only question being whether we should nerf faith first. 11:22:04 s/through/thought/ 11:23:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:23:39 reaverb: I don't think faith is a problem as-is, but I think the other amulets should reasonably compete with it 11:23:49 reaverb: for a start, this would require giving a negative effect to taking off amulets 11:23:56 they don't even have to be quite as good, just conceivably as good 11:24:19 dpeg: or at least a ramp-up period that can't be trivially scummed 11:24:32 I think a negative effect on taking off is more elegant >_> 11:24:40 when it works, I think that's a great solution 11:24:52 I just wanna leave all the tools in the toolchest, so to speak 11:25:28 Yeah Ok no need to decide the carrot or stick when we're deciding what the horse should do. 11:26:57 So basic agreeemnt, amulets should have long-term effects and target the power level of faith? That seems easy enough <_< 11:27:00 hehe, the very first suggestion I got into the game as a young dev was the ramp-up period for gourmand :) 11:27:06 removing rmut would probably be a player buff for a 3 rune game honestly 11:27:08 haha, yeah 11:27:15 DrKe: heh, true 11:27:29 DrKe: you don't know what we'll be doing to the other amulets! 11:27:31 dpeg: definitely a good change for that amulet 11:27:32 just pan is kind of bad without it 11:27:43 We can just reduce how many amulets spawn. 11:27:45 DrKe: really mostly mnoleg's lair 11:27:49 or cut more D level >_> 11:28:00 reaverb: still think we should cut some Lair 11:28:36 That seems good, but I think I'd like to cut from D first, since changing the early game might have secondary effects on the later game. 11:28:40 I like Grunt's Orc patch though. 11:29:07 playing the los game with neqoxecs etc is just kind of annoying and time consuming 11:29:51 Hmm one thing. 11:30:09 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:30:21 if all amulets have stratgic switching costs that aren't trival like "slow for 20 turns" why would players ever switch amulets? 11:30:34 DrKe: yeah; we could adjust neqoxec spawn rate if needed 11:31:09 reaverb: players switch gods 11:31:57 Isn't switching gods normally a mistake? 11:32:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:23 I'm not sure what you mean by that Lasty >_> 11:35:49 Anyway it occurs to me if some amulets are purposely better in the early games and others in the later game that would encourage swaps. 11:35:58 it seems good to make amulets more of a commitment 11:36:02 to differentiate from rings more 11:36:20 (fr: remove rings <_< >_>) 11:36:38 OK, so... for anti-switch mechanics: Maybe make amulet of regen cause an XP-gated no-device-heal status when removed? 11:37:08 Draining or Rot was the plan since *negative energy* etc. 11:37:21 Ah? Cool 11:37:36 Do good gods prevent using amulet of regeneration? 11:37:41 No 11:37:42 no 11:38:29 Amulet of clarity maybe causes XP-gated MR--? 11:38:51 And maybe tack some MR on top of clarity effect to bring the power level up? 11:38:59 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:39:38 (I'm not sure that an amulet of MR++ wouldn't be better design-wise that the absolute protection of clarity...) 11:43:57 Gourmand currently serves to nearly eradicate the tactical impact of hunger in many branches, while doing nothing in others... Maybe make it actually eliminate spell and rod hunger when worn, with an XP-gated slaying+spellpower malus when removed. (Thematically, your body is unable to effectively use energy for a while...) 11:44:12 That's still pretty weak power level compared to faith 11:44:22 But a bit better than current 11:47:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:09 Maybe I'll make a GDD thread about brainstorming this. Might get a couple good ideas 11:49:06 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:51:29 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:43 gourmand is awful because hunger is meaningless 11:56:43 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:56:46 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-2216-g73fe096: Fix Zin's mutation curing still requiring an empty floor space 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/73fe09600139 11:56:49 is the problem 11:56:54 Regardless of what happens to food (I still think chunkless is possible, keeping permafood), gourmand can go IMO. 11:57:20 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:28 i would be quite pleased if 0.18 was the day chunks went away 11:58:08 tbh I don't think old chunkless was that broken. 11:58:28 OK. I can't really think of a way to make gourmand have a decent power level. Makes sense 11:58:49 What were the complaints about chunkless again? I think maybe rations spawning from monsters? (That wasn't in the orignal spec) 11:59:14 %git chunkless 11:59:14 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1876-gfcdb68f: Revert "Allow Sublimation of Blood to affect corpses on the ground." 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fcdb68f9d369 11:59:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:59:49 Honestly though, I don't think that any one-size-fits-all strategic limit from food is going to be meaningful in most cases. 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:23 Because different power levels of character take drastically different amounts of time and nutrition to kill things, 12:00:25 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:14 Any notion on guardian spirit power level? It seems fine to me, with a decent amount of utility and anti-swapping built in on some characters. 12:02:35 unless you're doing a zig or rely exclusively on conjurations it's good 12:02:37 Oh hey chunkless already has a commit for removing goumound, db6980b5e941aaac8be 12:02:54 except I might have hacked it there for the experimental VoV would have to look at it. 12:03:42 -!- gazzien has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:04:33 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:21 ?? :beh:[-3 12:06:21 :beh:[21/23]: \?\?l+[ae]+r+n+[ae]+n+( hydra)? ::: lernaean_hydra[1/3]: A 27-headed yellow hydra, placed in many of the Swamp endings (and only there). If you don't have very high AC/HP, don't use autoexplore around its Swamp:4 vault: !tv minmay killer=~lernaean 1. Was introduced in 0.6 but was in the code before that. 12:06:26 why does this exist 12:06:41 it doesn't even work if you leave a space between ? and l 12:07:31 What the heck is it even suppose to do? 12:07:38 ??larnan hydra 12:07:38 lernaean_hydra[1/3]: A 27-headed yellow hydra, placed in many of the Swamp endings (and only there). If you don't have very high AC/HP, don't use autoexplore around its Swamp:4 vault: !tv minmay killer=~lernaean 1. Was introduced in 0.6 but was in the code before that. 12:07:40 this 12:07:45 ?? larnan hydra 12:07:45 I don't have a page labeled larnan_hydra in my learndb. 12:08:00 I guess that is hard to spell. 12:08:05 ??learnard hydra 12:08:05 I don't have a page labeled learnard_hydra in my learndb. 12:08:15 ??leonard hydra 12:08:15 I don't have a page labeled leonard_hydra in my learndb. 12:08:27 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:08:32 ??larnen hydra 12:08:32 lernaean_hydra[1/3]: A 27-headed yellow hydra, placed in many of the Swamp endings (and only there). If you don't have very high AC/HP, don't use autoexplore around its Swamp:4 vault: !tv minmay killer=~lernaean 1. Was introduced in 0.6 but was in the code before that. 12:08:49 that was me trying to spell it without looking at it, It doesn't really matter if it stays or goes, although somebody who put a lot of work into that regular expression might get annoyed. 12:09:22 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:09:22 I'm not sure whoever made that knows what [ae] actually does 12:09:58 shouldn't it be like 12:10:00 [ae]* 12:10:09 no? 12:10:10 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:10:14 [ae]+ 12:10:16 I think 12:10:17 unless lrnn is supposed to match 12:10:33 oh, right 12:10:35 Or maybe [ae][ae]? 12:10:40 is + the "one or more" one 12:10:43 -!- Poroso_ is now known as Poroso 12:10:45 (Question mark is part of regexp 12:10:47 yes 12:10:48 Yeah 12:11:15 lernaeaeaeaeaeaean hydra 12:11:27 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:41 I think you can also use ? as a prefix for one or more? maybe sequellese has multiple ways to do it. 12:11:42 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:15 No ? is post-fix 12:12:23 I remember because of the @?? bug. 12:15:29 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:16:21 you mean reaverb: Note the Gretell database is outdated 12:16:22 ? 12:18:24 kvaak: read up on the classics and report back when you're finished with Heracles 12:20:31 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:20:36 DrKe: Yeah 12:21:09 There's a few ideas off the top of my head: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18080 12:21:11 that was pretty funny 12:22:19 Basically remove both resists and gourmand, move invis to amulet slot, target invis and rage at early game. 12:22:36 And then just some power level tweaks and swap penalties 12:25:04 rcorr is far from absolute 12:25:35 I'm open to suggestion on how to change rCorr to match faith's power... 12:25:43 I just couldn't think of any 12:26:01 You're right though 12:26:08 50% is normal resistance territory 12:27:19 03oblivionis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/154 * 0.17-a0-2110-ge317983: Update branches.txt 10(47 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e317983a0603 12:28:13 -!- hypractvChipmunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:28:30 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:34:03 daryashkoh (L3 MiMo) (D:2) 12:34:31 you know a bug is bad when you don't even get a crash message. 12:38:11 -!- hypractvChipmunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:25 -!- urthmover has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:26 <|amethyst> !crashlog daryashkoh 12:39:27 1. daryashkoh, XL3 MiMo, T:1002 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/daryashkoh/crash-daryashkoh-20151027-163402.txt 12:40:54 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:44:38 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:44:57 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:45:28 -!- pblur__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:43 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:53:51 -!- pblur__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:54:39 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:55:51 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:57:17 -!- infrasho2tfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:17 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:58:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-2217-ga280b8d: Fix Gozag bribe handling for the Hells 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a280b8d143d6 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:44 good thing i accidentally tried to use bribe while standing on a branch staircase and remembered that functionality existed 13:02:22 >8) 13:03:25 pblur: for invis, if amulets are really supposed to be amazing, maybe it should just be flat-out toggleable 13:03:30 invis-on-demand 13:03:41 you can't keep it on forever due to contam, of course 13:04:56 also somebody suggested warding should just straight-up prevent summoning in your LoS 13:05:05 that would be faith-like in power 13:05:40 warding just stopping summoning sounds decent to me. Would that include player summoning? 13:05:45 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:06:34 * ontoclasm shrugs 13:07:01 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07:15 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2217-ga280b8d (34) 13:07:59 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08:06 -!- njorth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08:33 -!- mong has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09:43 MarvinPA: I did bribe in the hells -- what went wrong? 13:09:59 it would work fine unless you did it by standing on one of the staircases to a subbranch, i think 13:10:47 internally it uses the vestibule as the branch to check for every hell's bribe status, you don't have to bribe individual subbranches 13:11:38 but if you bribed by standing on, say, the staircase to dis, the bribe would only go to dis and not get shared or displayed properly 13:12:54 warding just stopping summoning sound crazy good especially if you can swap to it from an amulet with a relatively minor penalty 13:13:05 especially if summoners still waste turns trying to summon stuff 13:19:16 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:22:32 take that, half the things that normally end up killing me! 13:23:36 ice statues, ghost crabs, nergalle, eustachio 13:25:11 maybe significantly shorten summon duration would be better 13:25:36 for both teams 13:27:45 ??warding 13:27:46 warding[1/1]: Confers protection from some fraction of melee and ranged attacks (depends on MR) by summoned creatures. Will not prevent them from using spells, items or abilities. Can be obtained by wielding a staff of summoning or wearing the eponymous amulet. The amulet also provides rN+. 13:31:31 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:33:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:34:19 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:20 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:36:54 -!- pblur has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:38 -!- pblur__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:30 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:44:07 MarvinPA: ah, thanks 13:47:06 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:47:45 Re: amulet of regen, slightly boosting the effect and then making it torment you when you remove it seems about right to me ("you rip the amulet's spines from your body!") 13:47:59 I like the idea of swapping ring of invis for amulet of rCorr, even if it does hurt the one ring symmetry. For rage/invis amulets, have putting them on give exhaustion/contam so you can't immediately make use of them. 13:49:28 As for warding . . . I'm not sure what to do. It only affects a small subset of areas of the game, so if it affects those areas heavily it becomes a go-to must-use item. If it affects them less heavily, it's barely worth using at all. There's probably no place in the game for an amulet that just affects enemy summons. 13:49:30 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:50:45 not if you're trying to discourage swapping of amulets, at least 13:51:37 right 13:51:48 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:51:57 IMO the good amulets are the ones that are generally applicable 13:53:12 ontoclasm: Changed the invis amulet as suggested, and added a hexes miscast to removing it. That can include sleep, glow, etc.... so much more reisky even if you aren't worried about perma corona for some reason. 13:53:17 not sure if I agree with the idea that all swapping is bad: there's something to be said for knowing how to adapt yourself given a variability of resources for a variability of tactical situations 13:53:28 That' 13:53:34 That's what rings are for 13:53:43 ^ 13:54:29 OK. How about amulet of summoning 13:54:36 Gives some bonus vs enemy summons 13:54:39 right, but i dunno where it says you HAVE to only have one thing that fills that purpose 13:54:43 And is a spell enhancer for summoning? 13:55:12 Not that summoning is the most spell-power dependent school 13:55:31 But it does impact duration and damage on some of them. 13:55:45 you hang the staff of summoning around your neck. Whew, that's pretty heavy! 13:55:48 Mayb a double-enhancer on summoning is more power-appropriate? 13:55:52 and honestly, "this uses fire so I put on rF+" isn't actually interesting; it's almost always trivially correct and generally the only reasons people don't do it is 1) it's irritating or 2) they're new enough to not consider what's in their inventory during fights 13:56:00 Agreed 13:56:07 Though the game is balanced arouns swapping 13:56:11 *around 13:56:12 yes 13:56:21 So I don't think just eliminating it entirely is great 13:56:29 But limiting it to rings sounds good 13:56:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:56:55 Any thoughts on the summoning spell-enhancer necklace? 13:57:16 (Also thinking to remove rN+; it doesn't make much sense anyway 13:57:18 ) 13:57:24 other than it's exactly the effect of the staff 13:57:31 Eliminate the staff 13:57:36 Or not 13:57:42 I mean, rings of fire exist 13:57:48 We do have a few summons that care about spellpower right now, but it's not exactly critical. In any case, it would still be fairly niche... 13:57:48 And so do staff's of fire 13:57:55 Hmmm 13:58:04 Can we make a more general summon-buff ability? 13:58:10 does staff of fire have resistance? 13:58:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 13:58:12 That applies to elemental evokers 13:58:14 Etc. 13:58:17 Yes it does 13:58:22 But not rC- 13:58:24 increased duration 13:58:32 OK 13:58:48 Most characters currently optimally use summons a bit now 13:58:53 With elemental evokers 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:08 remember there's also things like Tukima and spectral weapon that are regarded as Summons, too 14:00:51 s/S/s/ 14:00:59 >8) 14:01:25 Maybe something like, "monsters that damage the player have a chance to be teleported away" -- it's general purpose, but teleporting away things like summons effectively kills them forever. 14:01:45 -!- morfei has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:02:24 amulet of golubria 14:02:32 That would work too... 14:02:36 I like that 14:02:48 More than the simple summon buff/nerf 14:02:56 It's quite potent 14:03:00 I'd use it on my ranged characters 14:03:10 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:03:14 Maybe removing does a random T'loc effect? 14:03:20 *miscast effect 14:03:25 Lasty_: That sounds awful when fighting popcorn 14:03:29 or not popcorn. 14:03:43 It's situational 14:03:44 -!- heliob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:03:48 what if you take it off by putting on a stasis amulet? 14:03:54 But not more so than the distortion brand I think 14:04:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:04:10 Take off and put on are seperate turns 14:04:19 Stasis amulet won't help you 14:04:38 what if you push the key really fast? 14:04:47 >8D 14:04:49 Then your keyboard will break 14:05:22 reaverb: yeah, not every char would want it 14:05:31 reaverb: but it would be strong, particularly for certain types of chrds 14:05:34 chars 14:05:41 reaverb: Do you think it would be useful enough on some characters to justify using? 14:05:52 I'm not talking about power level at all. 14:05:52 reaverb: It could replace inaccuracy... 14:06:02 >:D 14:06:02 I think /playing with that amulet on/ would be extremely unfun. 14:06:08 Ah 14:06:18 my keyboard's an ancient Model M... it probably has more combat capability than the average crawl club 14:06:19 Sorry "awful" was not a good term to use. 14:06:19 I'm nuts, but I enjoy disto play 14:06:28 reaverb: I assume you also find distortion unfun? 14:06:47 Haven't had a game with distortion recently, but sure. 14:06:56 hyperactvChipmunk: You get class points at least. Those keyboards are beasts. 14:07:12 btw, here'a completely different approach to amulet swapping: removing it could destroy it 14:07:19 I hate you 14:07:21 dpeg: ah, fair point 14:07:27 that's a good idea 14:07:30 Mildly 14:07:42 anyway, work calls, see you later 14:07:45 That's actually really interesting. 14:07:47 no wear-id then 14:07:50 amulet destruction. 14:08:13 Yeah maybe you'd just have to have amulets auto-ID'd or something? 14:08:29 If we make these potent enough I guess 14:09:02 I like the amulet of get-out-of-my-face a lot, btw 14:09:07 What would cursing them do? 14:09:15 (Re:Ashenzari 14:09:16 ) 14:09:30 Me too 14:09:44 I'd use that amulet of golubria in a lot of games lategame 14:09:48 reaverb: or just put more pressure on ID 14:09:59 reaverb: the interaction with randart amulets is interesting... 14:10:14 would they be an exception, or would you lose Brooch of Shielding if you swap it? 14:10:19 perfect for the orb run too 14:10:34 Meh, ID game is already really wonky, if you added more ID scrolls you'd just give players more wand charges probably. 14:10:43 randart amulets would the same I think, 14:10:46 s/,/./ 14:11:33 I don't think it really fits that well with some amulets being stronger early and others late 14:12:05 Once rage starts being a liability, you'll want to swap it out for something betterThere's not a big decision to made 14:12:17 I dunno if it doesn't work well, but maybe less-interestingly 14:12:47 Exactly when maybe, but that'll mostly be determined by when things drop 14:17:30 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:46 OK, switched amulet of swag-stealing for warding and added amulet destruction as an option. I find it less interesting than the others personally, but it does have elegance and simplicity on it's side. 14:21:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:26:57 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:33:24 -!- gazzien has quit [Client Quit] 14:35:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:08 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:37:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:42 -!- Vall has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.28/20150615172735]] 14:41:49 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:56 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:46:00 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:46:16 amalloy: great job on those YouTube videos. They're great 14:47:07 pblur__: do you think amulet of faith is very strong all game, or just early game? like, do you continue wearing it once you've reached max piety? 14:47:11 ... information resources for semi-new players 14:49:11 watching the first series now... wondered if there would have been an issue converting to dithmenos when you found his altar, prior to any self-mutilation in the name of Ru 14:50:08 amalloy: On most gods, whole game 14:50:16 It does depend 14:50:44 Like, Oka, Trog, Qaz, Dith, Sif, I'll wear it all game 14:50:48 Yred too 14:50:57 Chei too 14:51:08 I don't have a ton of experience with Fedhas 14:51:15 also there were two alarm traps in that Lair anthill vault. When you stirred up all the ants, they quickly got triggered 14:51:25 I wouldn't wear it with Veh or Ash later (obviously) 14:52:27 fedhas would be one of the best to have it on, I think... I have a hard time keeping him happy because I lose piety every time one of my toadstools dies 14:53:29 i can agree with a few of those, but most of them surprise me. i thought i used my god powers a lot, but especially with chei it's like impossible to run out of piety 14:53:41 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:50 okawaru i could keep "faith or not, and qazlal/yred i would be thrilled to 14:54:08 !lg pblur won s=god 14:54:08 12 games for pblur (won): 4x Okawaru, 2x Gozag, Ru, Trog, Sif Muna, Dithmenos, Vehumet, Jiyva 14:54:15 !log pblur won okawaru 14:54:16 4. pblur, XL27 HaHu, T:88628: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/pblur/morgue-pblur-20150929-165716.txt 14:54:18 !log . won okawaru 14:54:18