00:00:04 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-2101-g0c122e7 (34) 00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:39 <|amethyst> no steam integration, just leave your credit card details with my agents and we'll ensure you're charged fairly and appropriately 00:00:47 heh 00:01:11 <|amethyst> Or play an EA game, either works 00:01:49 ea is yesterday. the new hip thing to complain about is, idk, clash of clans. 00:01:52 some mobile thing. 00:02:19 -!- predator117 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:23 <|amethyst> I was thinking of it more in the "shopping at target" sense 00:02:50 <|amethyst> a source of black market credit card numbers 00:03:02 whoa, wait. those are the new weapon apts? 00:03:16 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: in my Brave New World 00:03:20 oh 00:03:27 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: but not in trunk, because of FASCIST REACTIONARIES 00:03:29 was gonna say, i'd better go win a halfling now 00:03:30 lol 00:03:37 =p 00:04:16 <|amethyst> (someone should make a roguelike set in the world of Liberal Crime Squad) 00:04:28 but it... but... 00:04:40 heh 00:04:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: too menu-driven for me to call it a roguelike, sorry 00:04:58 heh. 00:05:17 heh 00:05:29 <|amethyst> well, I guess that's like the TOME early game 00:05:47 the worst thing about playing roguelikes other than crawl is that I can't contribute to them. 00:05:58 I was playing some qud a few months ago, and it's like, man, this seems cool! I want to help! but... 00:06:14 ...but your reputation preceeded you? 00:06:19 preceded* 00:06:59 well, I mean, it's a commercial project. 00:07:03 ah 00:07:33 this sort of thing is EXACTLY why I foreswore all material possessions and now live in a hut. 00:07:51 Customers who purchase the League of Legends Gold package get full source access with commit privileges 00:07:54 <|amethyst> PF is connected to the internet through a banyan tree 00:08:09 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:08:47 |amethyst: see, you get it! 00:09:02 -!- raulfpl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09:51 * geekosaur has flashbacks... 00:10:03 <|amethyst> geekosaur: VINES? 00:10:58 yep 00:11:48 man, how come you can cast tukima's dance on an invalid target without even a prompt? what's with that? 00:11:59 whoever designed that spell is a real jerk, if you ask me. 00:12:23 Wasn't that fixed? 00:12:49 I specifically remember having a partial implimentation and abandoning it when somebody else ninja'd me. 00:12:57 %git :/tukima 00:12:58 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-730-g9237f64: Remove inventory weight for all items aside from large rocks 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 17 files, 167+ 123-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9237f646ad8b 00:13:04 !gitgrep tukima 00:13:04 %git HEAD^{/} 00:13:04 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-2101-g0c122e7: Fix some oddities with OOD. 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c122e7a4880 00:13:19 %git :/ukima 00:13:19 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-1864-g4ecfd9b: Identify brands of monster-held artefacts. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ecfd9b12962 00:13:21 <|amethyst> %git 35622ae 00:13:21 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-1714-g35622ae: Warn player before casting a Tukima's that offends their god (Xentronium) 10(8 weeks ago, 3 files, 28+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35622aec0111 00:13:43 <|amethyst> but that doesn't involve monsters without weapons at all 00:13:46 Oh is Invalid target different? 00:14:18 yeah, casting it on a rat, you waste a turn & some mp with no prompt at all. 00:14:34 Ok, that should be pretty easy to fix. 00:14:35 or, more reasonably, casting it on e.g. an enemy holding a ranged weapon. 00:14:38 yeah 00:14:43 Of course I'm not on my Dev boot right now. 00:14:43 <|amethyst> The rat's front feet twitch. 00:15:01 Anybody want to claim that bug or should I add it to my Todo? 00:15:04 i tried it on a centaur yesterday and was saddened 00:15:06 heh 00:15:10 |amethyst: sometimes the way crawl's systems work together are beatiful... 00:15:19 <|amethyst> heh 00:15:20 i accidentally cast it on a hydra i was trying to confuse like 6 times the other day 00:15:23 reaverb: I think it should be easy enough for me to fix right now, unless |amethyst would prefer. 00:15:33 it said "the hydra's claws twitch" 00:15:35 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: go for it 00:15:39 a....a...a...PleasingFungus commit....???!!! 00:15:43 =O 00:15:46 gammafunk: don't be ridiculous. 00:15:48 I'm retired. 00:16:01 anyway, it's better than that. it's gonna be a beam.cc commit 00:16:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: with ranged weapons, do you think it would be better to abort, or to rip the weapon away and drop it on the ground? 00:16:17 beem 00:16:18 "The sun demon's claws twitch." 00:16:27 please drop it on the ground 00:16:35 i was so excited that i would be able to disarm a centaur 00:16:37 and then i was sad 00:17:07 everytime i think something cool is going to happen, game sez no 00:17:11 haha 00:17:19 like the curare on the chanter guy 00:17:21 from reddit: "Is 0.16 double damage bug is back? Life seems too easy for my HESk." 00:17:23 I remember being super disappointed with force lance when I learned you couldn't knock guys into lava with it 00:17:30 aw 00:17:59 |amethyst: I'd lean toward ripping the weapon away; it doesn't seem Overpowered 00:18:15 why can't ranged weapons dance too? 00:18:26 the ammo doesn't dance with them? 00:18:29 did nobody play super mario rpg? 00:18:38 although i don't think it would be ridiculous to have it drop to the ground 00:18:56 that's what happens to the melee weapons when they're done dancing anyway 00:18:59 <|amethyst> or they could dance around and bash people 00:19:05 that would also be fun 00:19:10 the shortbow clumsily bashes the centaur 00:19:23 twang 00:19:23 <|amethyst> @??dancing weapon ; shortbow 00:19:23 dancing weapon (02() | Spd: 16 | HD: 15 | HP: 26 | AC/EV: 9/19 | Dam: 18 | 11non-living, fighter, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 886 | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 00:19:39 then we could implement my long-unrealized dream of being able to target any item on the floor with tukima's 00:19:57 no! no!!! 00:20:11 <|amethyst> and then make a monster with a mass version of that 00:20:18 <|amethyst> maybe a unique 00:20:28 ah 00:20:36 !lg * nostalgia ikiller=terpsichore 00:20:37 1. cptwinky the Shatterer (L20 DsWn of Yredelemnul), slain by a scimitar (animated by Terpsichore) on Snake:3 on 2014-06-10 04:15:37, with 284281 points after 46915 turns and 4:00:05. 00:20:42 somewhere in my todo/ideas list, there was... 00:20:45 heh 00:20:47 "Why can't the hypothetical Terpsichore dance the weapon she spawned with and then hex at you in support of it? And Euterpe keeps trying to mesmerize you in the other direction so she can pick it back up again." 00:20:48 sadly only one, after the work I put into backporting that 00:21:06 heh 00:21:08 that one's from the sa thread, from a discussion about the original terpischore, iirc 00:21:12 ??PleasingFungus[8 00:21:12 pleasingfungus[8/24]: ugh 00:21:15 <3 00:21:18 24...!? 00:21:27 lol 00:21:30 Grunt: hello! 00:21:42 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:21:48 has the chain gang grown kinder? a soft touch with the whip? 00:21:50 PleasingFungus: who are you again? 00:21:52 <.< >.> 00:21:55 <_< 00:22:15 !glasses 00:22:15 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 00:22:27 <|amethyst> every time I see the emoji with <_< I can't help but think "that guy looks really constipated" 00:22:33 I'm working a different job now than when you were last around 00:22:35 it is less brutal 00:22:36 <3 00:22:38 excellent! 00:22:47 I'm also working a different job, but it's more brutal, instead. 00:22:51 brutal. 00:22:58 some kind of conservation effect...? 00:24:33 |amethyst: looks like trying to make a dancing bow dies... probably somewhere in mon-place.cc? the same "puff of smoke" message is in six different places, it's very offensive to me. 00:24:35 * Grunt gestures. PleasingFungus swaps places with Grunt. 00:25:38 Suddenly you stand beside yourself! 00:26:29 * Grunt shimmers and seems to become 27! 00:26:33 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, I was able to make one in wizmode, then it crashed 00:26:40 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: when it tried to attack me 00:26:51 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:27:13 <|amethyst> huh, in tileidx_item 00:27:49 <|amethyst> ohh 00:27:58 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:28:00 tiles...! 00:28:06 PleasingFungus: did anyone mention the new set of major panlord vaults I did recently too 00:28:14 oh, no, I hadn't seen that! 00:28:15 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: my dev build is webtiles played from console :) 00:28:19 %git HEAD^{/major} 00:28:19 07Grunt02 * 0.17-a0-2064-g265a032: Another set of major panlord vaults. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 190+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/265a032cf597 00:28:21 <|amethyst> I bet a cursed one would work 00:28:24 |amethyst: wow... 00:28:41 <|amethyst> indeed it does 00:28:44 Grunt: heh, one for each. very egalitarian! 00:28:45 <|amethyst> it unwielded itself 00:28:56 PleasingFungus: I refuse to make one if I can make a complete set <3 00:28:57 <|amethyst> and then didn't have a tile 00:29:13 fun fact: I did that because I came up with a name for one and immediately realised "I need names for a complete set" 00:29:16 and it kind of went from there 00:29:20 (guess which one I thought of first) 00:29:45 gotta be wretched star. 00:29:48 nope 00:29:54 torture chamber? 00:29:56 nope 00:29:58 lol 00:30:02 rip 00:30:11 (torture chamber was last of the four, and wretched star was a late rename) 00:30:16 it's a very good name. 00:30:18 (after I realised the original theme no longer applied) 00:30:46 !vault grunt_abyss_rune_wretched_star 00:30:49 er 00:30:51 !vault grunt_abyss_rune_wretched_hive 00:30:56 I knew I hadn't quite used that name before <.< 00:31:02 Can't find grunt_abyss_rune_wretched_star. 00:31:02 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/abyss.des#l1476 00:31:21 and funnily enough, mnoleg_grunt_wretched_star does not actually have any wretched stars 00:31:36 (good?) 00:31:51 they're not really a pan enemy. 00:31:51 I watched someone clear wretched star this evening 00:31:55 ! 00:31:57 it placed in that big cave layout 00:31:57 gammafunk: TV me 00:32:00 I haven't seen it at all yet 00:32:01 and had a lot of corners they used 00:32:06 to killhole stuff 00:32:11 just bad luck 00:32:12 hrm 00:32:24 !lm * current trunk rune=glowing 00:32:25 1737. [2015-10-18 04:28:25] mrpyro the Octopoid Aeon (L27 OpTm of Cheibriados) found a glowing rune of Zot on turn 64626. (Pan) 00:32:28 !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -2 00:32:29 1736/1737. [2015-10-18 03:51:06] Gerad the End of an Era (L27 HOGl of Qazlal) found a glowing rune of Zot on turn 88318. (Pan) 00:32:31 !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -3 00:32:32 1735/1737. [2015-10-18 01:17:22] melllvar the Hellbinder (L27 DESu of Sif Muna) found a glowing rune of Zot on turn 128674. (Pan) 00:32:38 !lm comborobin rune noun=glowing 00:32:40 19. [2015-10-17 00:31:13] comborobin the Sorcerer (L27 SpWz of Ashenzari) found a glowing rune of Zot on turn 102966. (Pan) 00:32:46 was that it? 00:32:50 !lm comborobin rune current trunk glowing 00:32:51 No keyword 'glowing' 00:32:53 oh 00:32:54 maybe 00:32:57 !lm comborobin rune=glowing current trunk 00:32:57 15. [2015-10-16 04:04:04] comborobin the Sorcerer (L27 HECj of Vehumet) found a glowing rune of Zot on turn 184936. (Pan) 00:33:06 !lm bamboomancer rune noun=glowing 00:33:10 6. [2015-10-17 22:58:42] Bamboomancer the Conqueror (L27 HaHu of Ashenzari) found a glowing rune of Zot on turn 106999. (Pan) 00:33:15 I think that 00:33:19 !lm bamboomancer rune=glowing -tv 00:33:19 6. Bamboomancer, XL27 HaHu, T:106999 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:33:40 nice 00:33:41 this is it 00:33:59 yep 00:34:08 the layout made things easier 00:34:15 since that corner you see to NW 00:34:26 where all the corpses are 00:34:31 !lm bamboomancer rune=glowing -tv:<5.0 00:34:32 not much you can do about that 00:34:32 6. Bamboomancer, XL27 HaHu, T:106999 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:34:41 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:34:45 jihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad 00:34:53 this is a rare layout for pan I think 00:35:00 I remember thinking I'd never seen it before 00:35:12 hm I'd like to see the full layout 00:35:14 (get it all the damn time in speedruns grrr) 00:35:15 !hs * hewn 00:35:16 8789. busb the Invulnerable (L27 HEWn of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-04-02 11:18:04, with 16388713 points after 95301 turns and 12:26:15. 00:35:23 !hs . he-- 00:35:24 11. PleasingFungus the Invulnerable (L27 HEWn of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-04-14 20:12:34, with 16281472 points after 95505 turns and 10:19:31. 00:35:30 how'd he get so many stones >8( 00:35:38 wow, almost exactly a year 00:35:41 i have to scrabble for every last pebble 00:35:45 and WOW that score is close 00:35:54 200 turns... 00:36:10 you'll never take the HE score 00:36:17 s/the/that/ 00:36:29 I had it! 00:36:34 dang rip 00:36:38 rip... 00:36:51 50 beautiful weeks of elf high-scoring. 00:37:03 hm I'm having trouble deciding if this is on account of the level layout or not 00:37:06 my HE species score lasted only 6 weeks... 00:37:30 well the layout is running right up against it but...yeah maybe this circular vault will be very prone to this 00:37:37 I think I see how I could make a slight adjustment to the vault to have avoided this exact scenario, but even then he just needs to step two more tiles to do the same thing 00:37:44 (and that would be outside the vault) 00:38:00 yeah it's very open 00:38:06 other vaults are much more contained 00:38:19 in terms of the rune/boss location 00:38:22 evilmike_mnoleg_eyes is even more open than this 00:38:28 hrm 00:38:38 I guess it's porous into the surrounding layout? 00:38:41 a bit 00:38:45 maybe evilmike's is likewise 00:38:50 lol 00:39:02 ...uh 00:39:03 lmao 00:39:06 oh 00:39:08 I wonder if any other recent players have played this 00:39:09 ? 00:39:10 different tv 00:39:31 the next tv is minmay in some volcano from hell 00:39:32 let's start up mnolegtv and find out 00:40:00 !lg minmay tree 00:40:01 6. minmay the Slayer (L26 TrEE of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2012-04-23 22:42:53, with 1433692 points after 94058 turns and 5:52:45. 00:40:09 !lg minmay treehm 00:40:09 No keyword 'treehm' 00:40:12 oops 00:40:13 there's evilmike_mnoleg_eyes right off the star 00:40:15 t 00:40:19 god Tr^Sif, good job minmay 00:40:23 ya 00:40:51 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:40:53 I really want to see people do the grunt ends 00:40:57 for shoals 00:41:08 fortunately people play Shoals a lot more than Pan 00:41:18 maybe I'll get one in my Ne^Sif in trunk I'll be starting soon 00:41:22 I actually noticed a tiles hiccup in the ice ending which I should fix 00:41:46 !lg * killer~~simulacr br=shoals 00:41:48 2. saladin the Stickfighter (L14 DsGl of Nemelex Xobeh), slain by a water nymph simulacrum (led by Josephine) on Shoals:1 on 2014-11-27 09:35:28, with 62931 points after 24041 turns and 1:30:04. 00:41:52 dang 00:41:53 :( 00:41:58 !lg * killer~~simulacr br=shoals -2 00:41:58 newp 00:41:59 1/2. quackdat the Impaler (L14 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by a merfolk simulacrum (led by Josephine) on Shoals:1 on 2014-07-19 17:47:23, with 66258 points after 23873 turns and 1:46:19. 00:42:15 It Will Happen. 00:42:33 actually, that's strange, i didn't see any really interesting monsters in my shoals run yesterday/today 00:42:49 i was expecting something real nasty 00:43:00 well, that player ghost was stupidly annoying 00:43:20 03Grunt02 07* 0.17-a0-2102-gc64bc17: Fix a tiles hiccup in the Shoals ice ending. 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c64bc17993ac 00:43:58 okay, we've seen this one already 00:44:16 a lot of them didn't play?? 00:44:17 rip 00:44:20 !send Grunt more hiccups 00:44:21 Sending more hiccups to Grunt. 00:44:31 .echo /me burbs. 00:44:31 * Sequell burbs. 00:44:33 !send PleasingFungus iron giants 00:44:33 Sending iron giants to PleasingFungus. 00:44:40 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:45:00 this one looks like mnoleg_st 00:45:13 lots of sharp corners here 00:45:25 !lg nethack 00:45:25 17. PUDDINGFARM the Conqueror (L27 KoHu of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2012-07-30 10:20:22, with 1753346 points after 114790 turns and 10:37:36. 00:45:29 !nick nethack 00:45:29 Mapping nethack => puddingfarm magicmarker wandofwishing polypiling 00:45:30 w h y 00:45:37 why NetHack 00:45:40 a very good question 00:45:51 oh this is the original mnoleg 00:45:57 why do I always get this and mnoleg_st mixed up 00:46:09 "Mnoleg is struck by lightning." 00:46:18 don't tell it's a Q game 00:46:21 qazlal 00:46:21 yes 00:46:22 man, I had no idea what I was doing when I wrote this code 00:46:22 yes it is 00:46:27 1learn add PleasingFungus 00:46:40 here's mnoleg_grunt 00:46:43 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:46:47 !lg * god=qazlal max=zigscompleted x=zigscompleted 00:46:47 21535. [zigscompleted=4] crackermeal the Farming End of an Era (L27 GrWz of Qazlal), blasted by a hellion (burst of hellfire) on Zig:26 on 2015-09-15 23:21:30, with 1879999 points after 209956 turns and 1d+6:39:48. 00:47:21 I really need to figure out how to improve Mnoleg somehow; mnoleg_grunt is too good of a vault for Mnoleg to be the boss <.< 00:47:34 1learn add mnoleg 00:47:39 <3 00:47:56 all the reworks *are* kind of appropriate for mnoleg, you know. thematically. 00:47:58 (todo make Mnoleg part wretched star so that I can add wretched stars to wretched_star) 00:48:14 more tentacles, fewer tentacles, tentacle arms, no tentacle arms... it's chaos! 00:48:18 this one is mnoleg_st 00:48:45 mnoleg is like a beautiful dev mural.... 00:49:27 fr: more of these TVs work 00:49:34 probably from cwz 00:49:37 which doesn't have ttyrecs 00:49:44 well, and 00:50:15 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:50:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-2103-g8566fff: Cleanup some Tukima's code 10(56 seconds ago, 3 files, 10+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8566ffffe2d1 00:50:22 !lg * current trunk turns>0 !boring s=src / won o=-% 00:50:23 good brainless 00:50:27 ! 00:50:33 4893/392667 games for * (current trunk turns>0 !boring): 331/69703x cwz [0.47%], 399/41903x cbro [0.95%], 306/31711x cue [0.96%], 164/12303x cdo [1.33%], 944/68581x cao [1.38%], 123/8439x cpo [1.46%], 1737/117307x cszo [1.48%], 745/35837x cxc [2.08%], 144/6883x lld [2.09%] 00:50:34 >8O 00:50:39 note cwz win % 00:50:45 . . . 00:50:57 cue?? 00:50:57 European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.16 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 00:51:06 that's new, isn't it? 00:51:10 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: renamed clan 00:51:13 ahh 00:51:18 oh hey 00:51:25 right, I think that was right around when I left 00:51:26 someone else has played it after all! 00:51:41 did they killhole 00:51:51 !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -tv:channel=mnolegtv -16 -tv:<5.0 00:51:52 1722/1737. Nausicaa, XL27 DEFE, T:158510 (milestone) requested for mnolegtv: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:51:55 let's find out 00:52:01 too late 00:52:01 cwzowned 00:52:04 !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -tv:channel=mnolegtv -16 -tv:cancel 00:52:05 1722/1737. Nausicaa, XL27 DEFE, T:158510 (milestone) requested for mnolegtv: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:52:09 !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -tv:channel=mnolegtv -16 -tv:<10.0 00:52:09 1722/1737. Nausicaa, XL27 DEFE, T:158510 (milestone) requested for mnolegtv: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:52:17 !nuke mnolegtv 00:52:18 mnolegtv playlist clear requested by *. 00:52:21 !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -tv:channel=mnolegtv -16 -tv:<10.0 00:52:22 1722/1737. Nausicaa, XL27 DEFE, T:158510 (milestone) requested for mnolegtv: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:52:29 ugh 00:52:31 !nuke mnolegtv 00:52:32 mnolegtv playlist clear requested by *. 00:52:35 huh, demonspawn corruptors can corrupt undead players? 00:52:37 that seems wrong 00:52:48 !lm Nausicaa defe pan vmsg~~Mnoleg 00:52:49 No milestones for Nausicaa (defe pan vmsg~~Mnoleg). 00:52:52 <|amethyst> !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -tv:channel=mnolegtv:<10.0 -16 00:52:53 1722/1737. Nausicaa, XL27 DEFE, T:158510 (milestone) requested for mnolegtv: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:53:12 * Grunt facepalms. 00:53:14 thanks |amethyst 00:53:24 -!- Syndicus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:35 wow 00:53:38 check out that leather armour 00:53:48 another triumph for the name generator... 00:53:55 nice 00:54:18 <|amethyst> !lm * current trunk rune=glowing -16 -log 00:54:19 Nausicaa, XL27 DEFE, T:158510 (milestone) has no matching game 00:54:35 rip 00:54:42 !lm nausicaa x=src 00:54:43 865. [2015-10-18 01:58:15] [src=cao] Nausicaa the Archmage (L27 DEFE of Vehumet) left Gehenna on turn 172281. (Geh:3) 00:54:48 ! 00:55:02 oh, not live 00:55:05 !dump nausicaa 00:55:05 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Nausicaa/Nausicaa.txt 00:55:18 -!- wHATEver is now known as Guest13420 00:56:40 <|amethyst> hm 00:56:47 hm? 00:56:51 whoa 00:56:53 amazing 00:57:10 gammafunk: please tell me you're watching this 00:57:43 -!- devesine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:58 <|amethyst> scroll-names.out as of a monthish ago has "FANATA RADIOTRIO" 00:58:05 ha 00:58:08 1learn add 00:58:13 -!- Medra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:24 (mental note: give Dig to Mnoleg) 00:59:57 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:08 ...hrm..."Medra"...now who could that be.... 01:01:29 (more ideas: Random Bolt and Chaos Breath) 01:01:42 (Chaos Breath is an especially good one) 01:02:25 (I wonder if I could get away with Chain of Chaos >.>) 01:02:51 -!- omarax has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:52 -!- Danei has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:52 -!- tksquared has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:52 -!- myp has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:52 -!- Syndicus has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:52 -!- lvh has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:53 -!- Shados_ has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:53 -!- Rjs has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:53 -!- Sonata has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:53 -!- lukano has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:53 -!- DashNine has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:54 -!- royiv has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:54 -!- buppy has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:54 -!- devesine has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:54 -!- roxton has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:54 -!- varmin has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:55 -!- tw_ has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:55 -!- Medar has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:55 -!- twzt has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:55 -!- endou has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:55 -!- _sk has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:56 -!- kryft has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:56 -!- Azzkikr has quit [*.net *.split] 01:02:56 -!- smiler has quit [*.net *.split] 01:03:12 -!- roxton` is now known as roxton 01:03:23 -!- inire2 is now known as inire 01:06:22 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2103-g8566fff (34) 01:06:37 heh 01:10:24 I'll just leave this here: http://sprunge.us/VfEP 01:10:27 aw, you didn't actually do anything 01:10:42 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:44 !glasses 01:10:45 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 01:11:24 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:25 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:21 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2103-g8566fff (34) 01:20:43 Grunt: you have a trademark on fun? 01:20:53 or Fun, rather? 01:21:27 in the DCSS sense, shared amongst the devteam 01:21:28 >.> 01:22:03 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:22:56 heh 01:30:04 g'night folks; nice to meet you, funguy 01:33:57 -!- raskol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34:02 buppy: you... 01:34:44 haha, dig 01:34:51 We should keep Grunt away from FooTV 01:37:09 hypractvChipmunk: nice to meet you too! 01:37:27 but how can you keep Grunt away from it? 01:39:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-2104-g104056b: Obsessive/compulsive flattening behaviour 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 67+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/104056bad33e 01:41:46 hmmm 01:42:28 heh, stop_because_god_hates_target_prompt 01:42:49 sextuple-barrelled function names 01:43:24 heh, i like it 01:43:31 says right on the tin what it doe 01:43:31 s 01:44:22 <|amethyst> The Shining One booms, "How dare you use such a target prompt in my presence!" 01:46:17 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:47:06 tso is a jerk, yo 01:48:35 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:01 -!- Don_Laser has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 01:51:47 hm. is it important that the noise from the impact of an IMB precedes the noise & effects of the IMB exploding? 01:53:04 life is simpler if the answer is 'no'. 01:53:31 <|amethyst> 'no' sounds reasonable 01:54:26 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2104-g104056b 01:55:30 ohh, this is interesting... 01:55:54 if I'm right, you'll enjoy this, |amethyst . 01:56:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:58:30 <|amethyst> something funny: we have handle_behaviour -> pacified_leave_level -> make_mons_leave_level 01:58:30 Not, one, but TWO PleasingFungus commits!!! 01:58:47 <|amethyst> those are in mon-behv.cc mon-movetarget.cc mon-behv.cc 01:58:57 gammafunk: the second one is really bad, though. 01:59:07 <|amethyst> but that is the only call to pacified_leave_level, so why isn't it just in mon-behv.cc 01:59:17 hmmm? i didn't think loot was supposed to spawn underneath plants in lair anymore? 02:00:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 02:00:02 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:56 |amethyst: history? randomness? 02:01:10 Hi PleasingFungus I just recognized (after how many years?) that your name is a reference to a beetle and not a psychedelic mushroom 02:01:16 cool beetle, too 02:01:17 hahahaha 02:01:19 excellent. 02:02:48 <|amethyst> an entomological etymology 02:03:04 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:04:17 |amethyst: I was right! 02:04:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-2105-gad05798: Streamline bolt::affect_endpoint() 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ad05798598e1 02:04:25 <|amethyst> (I like how L. insectus is a direct calque of Gk. entomon) 02:04:42 that was a really easy FIXME to resolve 02:04:43 haha 02:08:03 -!- toenail has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:08:06 // We don't want to hit a monster in a wall square twice. 02:12:22 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12:29 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:13:58 <|amethyst> hrm 02:14:18 <|amethyst> so if a monster is trying to find a level exit 02:14:34 <|amethyst> or several monsters 02:17:27 <|amethyst> and an exit disappears or a new one appears 02:17:58 <|amethyst> there is a 1/20 chance each time handle_behaviour is called on any such monster that all of them will learn about the new exit 02:18:07 <|amethyst> or the missing one 02:18:30 <|amethyst> also, it appears they head towards the nearest exit in grid coordinates, not by path distance 02:20:40 btw PleasingFungus, i was reminded of manufactoria a week or two ago, and discovered you were the one who made it. just wanted to say i had a great time with that back when you released it 02:21:04 aww. thanks! 02:21:08 I'm glad to hear it. 02:21:41 |amethyst: The Dark Secrets Of Monster Brains 02:22:52 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:31:22 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 41.0.1/20150929144111]] 02:32:12 "Help Porting to 3DS" 02:32:15 that's a new one 02:32:25 man, *another* crawl build to support 02:32:36 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:36:03 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:41:00 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41:38 heh 02:41:53 but 3D crawl is at your fingertips! 02:42:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:49:19 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2105-gad05798 02:50:39 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:14:08 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2105-gad05798 (34) 03:26:45 -!- raskol` is now known as raskol 03:29:23 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:44:51 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:48:20 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49:01 -!- Medra is now known as Medar 03:54:40 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:55:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:59:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:05:21 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:05:24 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:09:54 -!- Evablue has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11:58 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:13:16 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:17:08 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:29:59 silentsnack (L11 DsWz) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 194 failed. 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Adjust the entrances to mnoleg_grunt_wretched_star (gammafunk). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8b9ca14ebe65 11:10:33 Lua error 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10023 by Xentronium 11:12:02 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:17:00 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:08 + { SPELL_SUMMON_EXECUTIONERS, 40, MON_SPELL_DEMONIC }, 11:29:09 + { SPELL_BLACK_MARK, 20, MON_SPELL_DEMONIC }, 11:29:14 I never get tired of this combination <.< 11:41:11 When will 0.17 be released? 11:42:04 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:11 -!- Xenobreeder_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:06 "Real Soon Now™" 11:44:14 I don't think anyone has a specific date in mind yet though. 11:45:34 http://sprunge.us/AYUP 11:46:16 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:51 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:47:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:56:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:59:41 -!- Syndicus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:18 -!- radinms has quit [] 12:06:59 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07:09 -!- dire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:07:51 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:12:27 Grunt: "ayup" 12:13:11 more like, "uh, nope" imo 12:14:49 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:15:11 though, as long as he's not summoning untouchable player ghosts... 12:15:22 * hypractvChipmunk sighs 12:16:22 <|amethyst> Grunt: FR: Summon Executioners as a level 10 player spell 12:17:07 <|amethyst> (I guess a three-school level 9 might be better) 12:17:30 <|amethyst> Summoning/Charms/Axes 12:17:46 I guess I should bite the bullet and learn a conjuration or two, since it seems like that's the only way to do it 12:17:49 ha 12:24:35 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:27:13 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:28:32 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:29:37 Grunt: is there any particular reason for the SHUFFLE: O2 line in your wind tunnel vault? I'm kinda confused about what it's doing 12:29:49 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:31:55 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 12:38:01 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:39:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:00 soonmide (L26 DDGl) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Hell) 12:46:07 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48:10 Is there a reason berserk moved from ability 'a' by default, to ability 'b'? 12:48:11 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:23 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:07 !lm johlstei 12:51:07 3735. [2015-10-06 19:07:37] johlstei the Cleaver (L8 HONe of Makhleb) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 7338. (D:5) 12:57:27 I just did sprint to test 12:57:35 when you start a berserker, berserk is on b 12:57:44 which is a weird change that sounds unintentional 12:59:16 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:19 sounds like a bug, yes 12:59:41 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:22 <|amethyst> I don't know if I'd call it a bug exactly 13:01:34 <|amethyst> god abilities are now assigned letters in the order you receive them 13:01:52 oh, nevermind me then 13:02:06 yeah but...berserk should go on a 13:02:18 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:02:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:41 <|amethyst> hm 13:03:51 =aab 13:03:59 yeah i mean, I know I can do that 13:04:15 but still, if someone had suggested "hey lets move the default berserk key to b" 13:04:17 you'd have said no 13:04:24 <|amethyst> hm, I think this works 13:06:20 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:24 it's a side effect of generalizing all god ability code, i think 13:07:10 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:07:10 so more interesting stuff can be done in the future 13:07:49 yeah not sure if having a notion of secondary abilities that you dont use often is useful outside of trog 13:08:03 like, burn spellbooks is a candidate for sure since how many times are you gonna do it in a game 13:08:42 no idea, i've only played him once or twice 13:08:46 maybe abcd shouldn't be the default either 13:09:01 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2106-g8b9ca14 (34) 13:09:06 it has qwerty syndrome though 13:09:07 the most used ability should go on a, maybe asdf would be better god ability hotkeys 13:09:10 seems pretty cool, though, since you can throw 'em 13:09:23 everyone is used to it even if it's not the most efficient way 13:10:17 i use dvorak, so i think aoeu would be better 13:10:34 >8p 13:10:52 i knew one of you jokers was going to say you used dvorak 13:10:59 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:11:16 yeah 13:11:33 obviously keyboard=dvorak should be an option in your crawlrc 13:11:34 i cant think of another case like burn spellbooks 13:11:36 i use dvorak AND vi keys...go figure that one out 13:11:39 not my problem if it ain't 13:11:39 where you get a weird ability at 0 13:11:47 that you wouldnt use much 13:11:54 wait how do dvorak people use vi 13:11:55 i don't think there is one really 13:11:56 .... 13:12:06 I'd have to remap all the keys 13:12:08 there arent many 0* abilities to begin with 13:12:14 i just...do 13:12:20 another ability like that i mean 13:12:22 like there's bend time 13:12:35 which is already mapped to a 13:12:36 and is useful 13:12:49 it's all muscle memory, no matter where the actual keys are 13:12:55 er...more frequently useful than burn book 13:12:55 do you use the arrow keys 13:12:55 where did burn spellbooks go before 13:12:56 to move around 13:13:01 no 13:13:07 or actually just use hjkl all over the place 13:13:08 wow 13:13:13 that must have taken some patience 13:13:25 cant you just use the numpad 13:13:27 <|amethyst> DrKe: 'f', which was actually somewhat problematic. I'm going to put it on 'd' 13:13:27 burn spellbooks was on f before 13:13:53 not as much as you'd expect, i think 13:14:01 yeah that seems okay 13:14:11 oh, f is a problem because now breath weapons automap to f? 13:14:19 d seems fine though 13:14:59 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:14:59 -!- airwave87 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:15:15 hjkl isn't actually the weird part, because that's just like vi...the diagonals are the oddballs 13:15:26 wait are you talking about using vi 13:15:29 or using vi keys in crawl 13:15:32 both 13:15:32 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: in general, because 'f' is usually the first non-god ability you get (excepting draconians now) 13:15:47 right 13:15:47 vi doesnt have diagonals but yeah, i bet thats worse in crawl 13:15:57 i knew it wasn't "breath weapons" per se 13:15:58 it rea 13:15:58 but those I had to learn to play crawl anyway 13:15:59 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:16:09 i was just thinking of the recent change to draconians 13:16:27 it really isn't as big a deal as you would think, oddly enough 13:17:59 it's pretty funny, but it seemed to me that it really doesn't matter where the keys are, as long as they don't move. The mnemonics are almost entirely superflous 13:18:37 New branch created: nfm-fixes (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/nfm-fixes 13:18:37 03|amethyst02 07[nfm-fixes] * 0.17-a0-2107-g215faab: Adjust formatting of god_powers. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 61+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/215faab85b56 13:18:37 03|amethyst02 07[nfm-fixes] * 0.17-a0-2108-g65e8068: Shift Trog ability letters back down. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65e8068ffa24 13:18:45 <|amethyst> hypractvChipmunk: emacs uses ctrl-bnpf 13:19:04 <|amethyst> hypractvChipmunk: not positionally mnemonic at all 13:19:39 there ya go 13:19:40 <|amethyst> (instead, an English mnemonic: back next prev forward) 13:20:04 <|amethyst> whoops 13:20:07 <|amethyst> wrong branch 13:20:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-2107-g215faab: Adjust formatting of god_powers. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 61+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/215faab85b56 13:20:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-2108-g65e8068: Shift Trog ability letters back down. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65e8068ffa24 13:20:35 actually, jk is better on dvorak, completely by coincidence 13:20:36 <|amethyst> now my secret local work branch name has leaked 13:21:07 <|amethyst> j and k have shape mnemonics :) 13:21:23 you've been found out! 13:21:57 yeah, but they're in a better spot on dvorak 13:22:21 qwerty C and V 13:22:32 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:01 <|amethyst> wheals: do you see any problems with my last commit? 13:23:03 perfect for wanting vi keys on any scrolling document viewer 13:23:27 <|amethyst> wheals: not sure if anything assumed that god_powers is ordered by piety rank 13:25:38 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:39 and then i use qwerty on my phone, even for playing crawl 13:26:53 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:27:21 <|amethyst> FR: Linotype keyboards 13:29:57 plan out your crawl game a hundred moves at a time! 13:30:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:30:22 <|amethyst> !send hypractvChipmunk giant slugs 13:30:22 Sending giant slugs to hypractvChipmunk. 13:32:13 * hypractvChipmunk assembles them into a successful ascension 13:32:32 (ha, right) 13:33:27 * hypractvChipmunk assembles them into a level one death, per usual. 13:33:39 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:40 The build has errored. (nfm-fixes - 65e8068 #3434 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/86053988 13:33:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:34:10 I think I see a problem with the build! 13:34:28 commit* 13:48:08 -!- Vidiiot has quit [] 13:48:32 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:52:11 <|amethyst> that one is because I deleted the branch 13:52:19 <|amethyst> I forgot to cancel the build 13:52:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:04 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:35 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:37 hypractvChipmunk: SHUFFLE: O2 swaps the position of the guaranteed titan and the rune sometimes 14:12:46 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:09 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 14:34:05 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:01 -!- siepu_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:36:28 * gammafunk SHUFFLES ##crawl-dev 14:37:28 !send gammafunk Summon Executioners 14:37:28 Sending Summon Executioners to gammafunk. 14:37:47 !lm . alive x=ac,ev,mhp 14:37:47 136. [2015-10-17 04:45:35] [ac=14;ev=12;mhp=87] gammafunk the Convoker (L16 DESu of Sif Muna) entered the Spider Nest on turn 15739. (Lair:3) 14:37:52 But I'm so very fragile... 14:38:00 !send gammafunk Chain of Chaos 14:38:00 Sending Chain of Chaos to gammafunk. 14:38:26 I think I may add the panlord tweaks to gruntstuff 14:39:11 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:39:42 do the Grunt Shuffle 14:40:33 Grunt: but why? the map can flip and do that anyway 14:40:59 if that's all it does, then it's redundant 14:41:21 i thought there was some deeper meaning beyond my ken 14:42:17 hypractvChipmunk: flipping the map would swap them vertically, not horizontally 14:43:11 er 14:43:14 I'm thinking of another vault 14:43:46 but it decides whether the rune is aligned horizontally with Lom or not, anyway <.< 14:43:52 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:44:02 ah, i thought flipping and rotation were both possible 14:44:18 -!- mrmyers has quit [Changing host] 14:45:12 they are 14:46:13 anyway, the point of my question was to ascertain if there was something I just wasn't seeing, and you answered that 14:47:02 -!- lvh_ is now known as lvh 14:47:06 I do occasionally do completely gratuitous shuffles 14:47:11 I try to avoid that though 14:47:12 :) 14:47:24 aw, lame, vault wardens lock the doors even when confused 14:47:33 <|amethyst> %git 5b601467 14:47:33 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-1866-g5b60146: Don't move the kraken in sprint II (MrPlanck) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b601467fc7d 14:47:34 >8p 14:48:00 heh 14:48:42 just blow up the door first 14:48:57 you feel really clever doing so 14:48:59 can't blow up the door if it's stairs! 14:49:03 blow up the stsairs 14:49:06 stairs* 14:49:18 oh i'll feel REAL clever doing that 14:51:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:53:15 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:21 -!- pblur has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:18 -!- Syndicus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:24 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:56:32 soonmide (L26 DDGl) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Hell) 14:58:15 that's the third time i've seen that assert failed today 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:10 <|amethyst> only two different players 15:01:53 <|amethyst> it happens when aiming some cones from certain points on the screen 15:02:13 ah 15:02:17 <|amethyst> it's because of floating-point rounding errors 15:02:24 New branch created: pull/154 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/154 15:02:24 03oblivionis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/154 * 0.17-a0-2109-g3412ddc: Update branches.txt 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 36+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3412ddcc16cd 15:03:19 <|amethyst> !tell Zaba As the resident Russian speaker, would you mind reviewing and (presumably) merging oblivionis's pull requests? 15:03:19 |amethyst: OK, I'll let zaba know. 15:04:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 15:04:56 <|amethyst> !tell Zaba oh, I guess just one: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/154 15:04:56 |amethyst: OK, I'll let zaba know. 15:13:42 -!- Balkanpizza has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:01 Some versions ago there were new icons for sacrifice eye and resistance 15:14:04 -!- trueamericanhero has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:14:09 aaaaannnnd they're gone 15:14:40 -!- crowleyman has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:21 sacrifice icon 15:17:14 only if it gives max piety 15:18:40 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:21:40 oh, i didn't know they were ever there 15:24:09 ProzacElf: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/rltiles/gui/invocations/ru_sacrifice_eye.png;h=95397f554e6631cc553415de5849fa80f02a5e31;hb=1d60061d872ed8b8e6bfe6d576f3c3ecd6477557 15:24:23 and 15:24:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/rltiles/gui/invocations/ru_sacrifice_resistance.png;h=1e964fe1c64dcdc254c5a7a4d626b2988fdeb0f1;hb=1d60061d872ed8b8e6bfe6d576f3c3ecd6477557 15:24:30 but currently is ? 15:24:35 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:33 -!- Balkanpizza has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:27:08 !source ru_sacrifice_eye.png 15:27:08 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/gui/invocations/ru_sacrifice_eye.png 15:27:19 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:27:31 !source ru_sacrifice_resistance.png 15:27:32 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/gui/invocations/ru_sacrifice_resistance.png 15:27:52 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:42 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:33:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39:15 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:45:20 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 15:46:11 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:53:17 -!- plantmann has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:53:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56:39 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:26 I had a really evil 1 idea other than Unbelievers 16:02:31 http://sprunge.us/PKXc 16:02:46 (part of a branch where I'm collecting some demon ideas) 16:09:27 kind of seems like it would fit in abyss 16:09:42 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:35 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:18:47 Unstable branch on crawl.buzz updated to: 0.17-a0-2108-g65e8068 (34) 16:19:36 another less exciting idea which might warrant a better name: http://sprunge.us/cODW 16:20:08 ...demonic orc priest? 16:20:46 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:20:52 * geekosaur notes that that is more than half snark... 16:21:00 * Grunt gestures. geekosaur convulses! 16:28:40 now what I need are tiles for these villains <.< 16:30:26 I like the chaos nexus... 16:42:18 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:43:31 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:50 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:47:20 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:07 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:52 -!- shrink has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:00 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:54:30 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:54:45 anguisher, lesser cousin of the painificator and excruciator 16:54:52 heh 16:55:12 !send kvaak an exsanguisher 16:55:12 Sending an exsanguisher to kvaak. 16:55:20 the torturenator 5000 16:55:28 beep boop 16:55:43 you are violating area security. you will be excruciated. 16:55:49 rofl 16:55:53 ahahahahaha 16:56:12 oh my god, i dunno why, but that just made me fall over laughing 16:57:17 Grunt: things with af_chaos are things you can't really melee 16:57:36 note that we don't have players killing a lot of eldritch tentacles 16:58:27 I mean as rare/specialized encounters that can be ok, but as a t-1 it's going to be seen a lot 16:58:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:58:45 I bet pan lords can get af_chaos but that happens really infrequently 16:59:13 !killratio * crazy_yuif 16:59:15 No battles for * and No games for crazy_yuif.. 16:59:36 yuif is a unique (and one that is among the easiest to avoid) 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:04 also among the easiest to fight 1v1, although that doesn't matter as much 17:00:33 !killratio crazy_yiuf 17:00:37 crazy_yiuf wins 13.00% of battles. 17:06:15 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:07:20 !lg * current trunk br=snake s=cikiller% 17:07:20 1783 games for * (current trunk br=snake): 285x a shock serpent (15.98%), 265x a naga sharpshooter (14.86%), 179x a greater naga (10.04%), 146x a naga warrior (8.19%), 144x Vashnia (8.08%), 83x an anaconda (4.66%), 74x a salamander (4.15%), 66x a black mamba (3.70%), 59x a naga ritualist (3.31%), 50x a naga mage (2.80%), 45x (2.52%), 44x a guardian serpent (2.47%), 36x Aizul (2.02%), 35x Nikola (1... 17:07:30 shock serpents... 17:08:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:10:21 http://i.imgur.com/r8P5osx.png 17:10:30 it's adorable 17:11:06 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:11:45 raarg 17:12:02 -!- thereaction has quit [Client Quit] 17:14:45 +1 for floppy ears 17:15:40 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:16:44 -!- thereaction has quit [Client Quit] 17:17:16 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:52 !send gammafunk AF_KLOWN 17:17:52 Sending AF_KLOWN to gammafunk. 17:17:53 <.< 17:23:04 af_klown is better that way 17:23:19 what on earth that tile... 17:24:41 why did you ping me gammafunk 17:24:42 that's this guy: http://sprunge.us/cODW 17:24:48 <3 17:25:25 buppy: I will defeat you again someday 17:25:34 that the brutalizor? 17:25:48 I'm getting a new controller soon, and you will be defeated again 17:26:16 replacing hellwings? 17:26:24 (I hope so) 17:26:36 hrm, af_pain and pain 17:26:40 and agony 17:26:54 @??hellwing 17:26:54 hellwing (154) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 35-57 | AC/EV: 16/10 | Dam: 17, 10 | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, fly, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 332 | Sp: cigotuvi's embrace [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 17:28:18 ??4 17:28:18 4[1/1]: The tier 4 demons. They are: {blue devil}, {red devil}, {iron devil}, {hellwing}, {orange demon}, {sixfirhy}. 17:28:22 @??blue_devil 17:28:22 blue devil (024) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 14/10 | Dam: 21(swoop) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 303 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 17:28:31 uh 17:28:34 !learn edit 4 s/iron/rust/ 17:28:35 4[1/1]: The tier 4 demons. They are: {blue devil}, {red devil}, {rust devil}, {hellwing}, {orange demon}, {sixfirhy}. 17:28:43 oh yeah 17:29:23 !abyss Grunt 17:29:23 bh casts a spell. Grunt is devoured by a tear in reality! 17:29:27 I wonder if agony is too much, but 17:29:30 !firestorm bh 17:29:30 Grunt gestures at bh while chanting. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs bh! 17:29:37 !send bh Chaos Nexuses 17:29:37 Sending Chaos Nexuses to bh. 17:29:39 I could see this is a good replacement for hellwings 17:29:57 !send Grunt a swarm of Inconveniencors 17:29:57 Sending a swarm of Inconveniencors to Grunt. 17:29:57 hm, I meant for them to be their own monster, but if it prompts removals..... 17:30:00 I mean couldn't we just do this to hellwings? 17:30:26 !send gammafunk Unbelievers 17:30:26 Sending Unbelievers to gammafunk. 17:30:27 if you like the "anguisher" theme better 17:30:31 !send gammafunk vitriol vandals 17:30:31 Sending vitriol vandals to gammafunk. 17:30:35 I'm indifferent to hellwings 17:30:38 I kind of like "hellwing" as a name 17:30:45 but it's pretty generic I guess 17:31:06 whereas "anguisher" communicates "necromancy" better probably 17:31:31 my inconveniencors don't do any damage, they just nudge you around a bit 17:31:57 the tile will be a small imp with a giant hand pointing a finger 17:32:20 I sort of thought of "anguisher" as an analogue to tormentors 17:32:27 yeah that's how I read it as well 17:32:40 I don't terribly love the name itself but it's an easy to see connection 17:32:49 and agony is like beam-using-mr-checking torment 17:32:54 yes 17:33:11 I'll file this guy away for now - we can bring this back up once 0.18 dev starts <.< 17:33:15 (after the 0.17 tourney!!) 17:33:18 beam_of_anguish 17:34:00 (Inconveniencer sounds like one of the demons reporting to Phil, the Prince of Insufficient Light) 17:34:18 haha 17:34:32 *poke poke* 17:35:10 The inconveniencer pokes you and blinks away! You feel greatly annoyed! 17:37:03 The inconveniencer gestures. You are darned to heck! 17:42:23 -!- crowleyman has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 18:35:59 not the new one, no 18:40:13 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:45:12 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:45:45 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:47:00 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:47:21 ontoclasm: not all of these are necessarily serious designs >.> 18:47:29 (actually I should collate the descriptions for all four of these) 18:47:39 gammafunk: I had an insight re hellwings while I was out for dinner 18:47:48 specifically, in relation to how you liked the name but not the enemy 18:48:03 which got me to thinking about what kind of enemy a "hellwing" would be, devoid of context 18:48:20 very spicy chicken wing 18:48:31 from the "wing" part, one envisions something flying - the sort of enemy that would make big, swooping attacks, you know 18:48:37 hold on, don't we already have a 4 that does that 18:48:43 blue devils 18:48:45 ^ 18:49:23 i have a pretty specific mental image of hellwings, from some game i played a long time ago but don't even remember what it was so i can't link you an image 18:49:43 +1 to anything that gets rid of more " " monster names 18:51:04 i imagine a large, grotesque beast with a long, vulture-like neck, bearing wraith-like riders with enormous scythes that they rake their target with in dive attacks...but you know, that's just me 18:51:23 they're like...really squat orange dudes, okay? and their torso is mostly one giant eyeball. they've got two legs and no arms: the legs have wings attached, and the knee is like twice as high as their head. as i say it now it sounds totally ridiculous, because it is, but it's a fun image 18:51:25 -!- pisano_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:52:51 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53:44 a lot of vaults depend on having a vaguely cold-themed 4, unfortunately, but that shouldn't be too much of a challenge to come up with 18:53:53 (ice caves immediately come to mind) 18:54:30 oh! i think i am mentally modeling them after flotiballs from final fantasy tactics 18:54:44 http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/t-ahriman-a.jpg 18:54:47 ha 18:55:30 adorable, right? 18:55:35 <3 hellwings 18:55:42 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:56:25 ontoclasm: in case it's relevant at all, here's the added monster descriptions from my local demons branch right now: http://sprunge.us/FVHg 18:57:32 cold-themed demon, alright: "An ice-cold being coalesced from frozen flame, it sucks the heat out of the earth as it glides over it, leaving a trail of icy vapor. Upon death, splinters into thousands of icy shards that pierce the skin and drain the life force from the victim." 18:57:52 !glaciate hypractvChipmunk 18:57:52 Grunt gestures at hypractvChipmunk while chanting. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs hypractvChipmunk! 18:57:55 wee, making monsters is fun 18:58:17 hypractvChipmunk: too many "it"s in that sentence 18:58:32 ??it[something 18:58:33 it[39/43]: 8574891: Replace it with something. 18:58:36 yeah, i didn't proofread for ambiguous pronouns 18:58:53 ??it 18:58:53 it[1/43]: It fall off the wall. 18:58:56 ??it[2 18:58:56 it[2/43]: A nearby it withers and dies. 18:59:09 %git HEAD{/withers.*withers} 18:59:09 Could not find commit HEAD{/withers.*withers} (git returned 128) 18:59:11 %git HEAD^{/withers.*withers} 18:59:12 07Grunt02 * 0.11-a0-2929-gea85ad3: A nearby "A nearby it withers and dies" withers and dies. 10(3 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea85ad332ce1 18:59:27 %git HEAD^{/with an it} 18:59:28 07Grunt02 * 0.12-a0-1993-g1f5ad4c: Kill "killed from afar[...]with an it" with a proper death message. 10(2 years, 9 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1f5ad4ce9a83 18:59:42 * hypractvChipmunk refuses to acknowledge any wit in that commit. 19:00:02 !shatter hypractvChipmunk 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:02 Grunt casts a spell. ##crawl-dev rumbles around Grunt! hypractvChipmunk shudders from the earth-shattering force. 19:00:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:00:26 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 19:04:10 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:10:16 "swirling mass of pure chaos" 19:10:23 !blame2 Grunt 19:10:24 GGGrrruuunnnttt 19:10:27 <3 19:10:43 (tbf that's the least likely of the designs) 19:10:50 (I imagine it as a bigger chaos spawn) 19:16:41 mm 19:20:09 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:20:42 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-2109-g117576f: Fix shimmering toadstools in a Fedhas vault (elliptic) 10(8 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/117576f2d967 19:21:49 wth, that was intentional? 19:22:07 i assume col:random used to mean "pick a random colour" instead of "pick etc_random" or something 19:22:17 since that vault definitely never used to do that 19:22:19 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:05 actually I think toadstools specifically used to treat that differently 19:23:41 toadstools are weird so that definitely sounds feasible 19:25:19 hm 19:25:22 that tag appeared in this commit 19:25:28 %git 578de26 19:25:28 07dpeg02 * 0.6.0-a1-356-g578de26: Move some shrine maps to altar.des. 10(6 years ago, 3 files, 228+ 451-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/578de264d19b 19:27:07 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:28:04 -!- Earlord has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31:07 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:59 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:35:08 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 19:35:17 Grunt: never get a 43-streak if you sacrifice life 19:37:01 !lg elliptic 19:37:02 1926. elliptic the Slasher (L4 HEWr), slain by Direpenguin's ghost on D:4 (tgw_fedhas) on 2015-10-18 23:11:53, with 105 points after 2276 turns and 0:13:25. 19:37:05 !lm elliptic 19:37:06 44055. [2015-10-18 23:34:50] elliptic the Carver (L8 HEWr of Ru) sacrificed love on turn 6373. (D:7) 19:37:10 oh 19:37:34 gammafunk: did you see my hellwing commentary? 19:37:48 re shelving until 0.18? 19:37:56 no, the insight I had over dinner 19:38:30 oh, yeah, I see 19:38:36 @??blue_devil 19:38:36 blue devil (024) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 14/10 | Dam: 21(swoop) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 303 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 19:38:38 @??red_devil 19:38:39 red devil (054) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 26-41 | AC/EV: 7/13 | Dam: 19(kite) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, fly | Res: 06magic(60), 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 08holy++ | XP: 319 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 19:38:49 you know, people complain a lot about red devil kite, but that's another matter 19:38:54 but yes you're probably right about that 19:39:04 they're just "this movement gimmick and cold res" 19:39:12 re blue devils 19:39:19 remove movement gimmick, give them Throw Frost and maybe Freeze 19:39:26 (we already have ice devils for AF_COLD) 19:39:30 @??ice devil 19:39:30 ice devil (163) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 49-74 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1612(cold:11-32) | 05demonic, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 756 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 19:39:36 hm 19:39:38 @??ice devil hd:7 19:39:39 ice devil (163) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 27-48 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1612(cold:7-20) | 05demonic, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 243 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 19:39:41 we have white imps for throw frost and af_cold yeah 19:39:51 white imps don't have AF_COLD 19:39:53 @??white imp 19:39:53 white imp (165) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-15 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 412(cold:2-5) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(10), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 10 | Sp: throw frost (3d5) [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 19:39:55 ... 19:39:58 yah they do 19:40:01 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:03 how did I not know that 19:40:12 You're not a Top Summoner 19:40:14 obv 19:40:19 !glaciate gammafunk 19:40:20 Grunt points at gammafunk and mumbles some strange words. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs gammafunk! 19:40:48 I love and care for all my imps, giving them my utmost attention... 19:41:05 !send gammafunk horrible things 19:41:05 Sending horrible things to gammafunk. 19:45:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:45 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:51:16 Crashed when a confused minotaur standing in a mephitic cloud zapped a rod 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10024 by Cantwell 19:51:33 more of that same bug =x 19:52:16 |amethyst: i think it's more than what you told me earlier 19:52:38 that's the second bug report today referring to a confused monster zapping a rod 19:53:14 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:55:08 -!- SriBri has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:26 <|amethyst> I think that's a different crash from the in_diamond_int one 20:01:43 <|amethyst> it might or might not be related 20:01:58 <|amethyst> I don't suspect so, since this one started happening more recently 20:02:10 both were line 194 of ray.cc 20:02:24 on confused monster zapping a rod 20:02:30 i'm digging into it now 20:02:41 <|amethyst> oh, I thought you had been talking about a different one 20:02:49 strange, because ray.cc hasn't been touched in like over a year 20:02:49 <|amethyst> !lm * crash noun~~in_diamond 20:02:50 39. [2015-10-17 06:34:01] gb0801 the Brawler (L15 GhMo of Ru) ASSERT(in diamond int(r->start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 166 failed on turn 22164. (Orc:1) 20:03:02 oh, that one has been two or three times today, too 20:03:07 also in ray.cc 20:03:38 <|amethyst> the monster zapping a rod bug isn't new today, but is new-ish 20:04:02 <|amethyst> !bug 9919 20:04:02 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9919 20:04:05 ??ray.cc 20:04:05 ray.cc[1/1]: <|amethyst> Grunt: I feel like I understand beam.cc better than ray.cc 20:04:07 <|amethyst> it's a couple of months old 20:04:10 what's scattershot? 20:04:17 <|amethyst> iron rod 20:04:25 ah 20:06:05 the _valid assert that crashes calls in_diamond_int, too, which is why i thought it was related 20:08:04 <|amethyst> the reason I think they're different is that in amalloy's investigations everything was 0 20:08:42 maybe amalloy's trying to trick us! 20:08:58 * hypractvChipmunk casts a suspicious glare on amalloy. 20:09:00 <|amethyst> whereas the in_diamond_int crash is because of a rounding error and something being close to but not exactly an integer or half-integer 20:09:45 alright, i'll keep it in mind 20:10:32 gammafunk: bad blue devil replacement idea: Ozo's Armour 20:10:37 <.< 20:11:04 and maybe get them to Summon Ice Beast and 20:11:58 Ozo's Armourer 20:12:11 swings a giant ice hammer 20:12:41 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:12:52 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:53 goes on and on about how he's going to quench your soul 20:12:55 what's a hammer 20:12:56 <.< 20:12:59 chequers: Failed to load map, reloading all maps (Map was built for a different version 20:12:59 of Crawl (layout_caves) (map: 0.0 us: 34.158)). 20:13:09 aha 20:13:13 The arena of blood 20:13:13 what's the next line 20:13:32 you can restart or whatever 20:13:44 The Butt of Woe 20:13:46 swings a giant ice mace with a flattend head on one side 20:14:55 |amethyst: you there? where is the version tag in the cached files stored? 20:15:25 I guess it's in one of these files builder_layout_caves.dsc builder_layout_caves.idx builder_layout_caves.lk builder_layout_caves.lux 20:16:30 !lm * crash -4 -tv 20:16:31 12113/12116. soonmide, XL26 DDGl, T:57046 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:17:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:17:40 !lm * crash -5 -tv 20:17:41 12112/12116. silentsnack, XL11 DsWz, T:11894 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:18:50 chequers: Failed to load map, reloading all maps (Map was built for a different version 20:18:51 of Crawl (layout_basic_swamp) (map: 97.48 us: 34.158)). 20:18:56 !lm * crash -5 20:18:57 12112/12116. [2015-10-18 08:30:00] silentsnack the Thaumaturge (L11 DsWz of Vehumet) ASSERT( valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 194 failed on turn 11894. (Lab) 20:19:01 !lm * crash -5 -log 20:19:02 12112/12116. silentsnack, XL11 DsWz, T:11894 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/silentsnack/crash-silentsnack-20151018-083000.txt 20:20:12 wtf 20:20:17 okay, his says lightning rod but actually it was an iron rod too 20:20:18 so it's just corrupt, random data 20:20:26 the minotaur switched out or something =x 20:20:50 chequers: this bug getting annoying with the spam... 20:21:02 well, I'm looking to fix it 20:21:09 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:17 yeah, no pressure :P 20:21:26 Grunt: please not more monster spells that are equivalent to just giving the thing more of a stat!!! 20:21:49 !source unmarshallUByte 20:21:49 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc#l357 20:22:27 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:27 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22:43 how do you fail to unmarshall a byte? >8) 20:24:09 Grunt: also, you should spectate Tabstorm's game 20:24:27 since he's getting the magical rune in a certain vault... 20:25:17 hypractvChipmunk: corruption, I guess 20:25:36 I'm trying to figure out if the file itself is corrupt or if loading is corrupt 20:25:45 truncated file? 20:26:19 gammafunk: guh, I was watching a moment ago 20:26:25 why did my window close 20:26:32 he saved and reloaded 20:26:36 spoiler: lom died 20:26:51 win-d'oh 20:26:56 gammafunk: he didn't do mnoleg_grunt_wretched_star though 20:27:05 (Mnoleg with more chaos spells is going to be glorious btw) 20:27:06 <.< 20:27:21 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 20:27:35 !source reader 20:27:35 1/6. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/package.cc#l281 20:28:06 !source reader 2 20:28:06 2/6. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc#l95 20:28:08 !source reader 3 20:28:09 3/6. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc#l103 20:30:03 !source mapdef.cc:2419 20:30:04 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mapdef.cc#l2419 20:30:11 where does cacheoffset come from, here? 20:31:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:32:25 also, I don't understand why reading junk from the file would then result in other des files being run 20:33:21 |amethyst: this is easily reproducible, at least. best kind of bug 20:33:35 got it first try 20:33:38 and second, and third 20:37:38 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 20:38:56 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:39:39 the assert fails at is_diamond_int on 0.5, 0.5 =x 20:40:36 kinda just like you mentioned >8p 20:42:20 <|amethyst> hm 20:42:24 <|amethyst> that's different 20:42:32 <|amethyst> amalloy's was at 0,0 20:43:03 oh, wait; nevermind, that was true assert 20:43:09 sec >8) 20:43:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 20:49:24 naturally it doesn't reproduce now that i'm watching it with a debug breakpoint on >8) 20:49:40 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:02 oh right, forgot to confuse them >8D 20:55:57 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:59:43 there we go >8) 20:59:51 this makefile is annoying btw >< 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:15 okay, yeah, all zeroes 21:02:15 r.dir = (0, 0) 21:02:27 does that mean the monster is shooting at the player 21:02:42 maybe i should wear safety goggles while debugging this 21:03:00 !glasses 21:03:00 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 21:03:05 <|amethyst> hypractvChipmunk: at itself probably 21:03:06 alright, close enough 21:04:19 >8) 21:07:21 so it goes into is_diamond_int as -0.5, 0.5 21:08:33 in_diamond_int, rather 21:10:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:11:58 so the obvious solution is that you don't need to check any squares if it's being fired at oneself 21:12:12 so don't do that >8P 21:13:07 it won't let you cast it at yourself >8P 21:13:45 that would be overly suicidal 21:14:09 how come monsters can zap wands while confused but the player cannot? 21:15:14 @??blue devil spells:freeze.67.demonic,summon_ice_beast.20.demonic 21:15:14 blue devil (024) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 14/10 | Dam: 21(swoop) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 303 | Sp: freeze [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 21:15:18 hrm 21:18:00 <|amethyst> @??blue devil spells:freeze.67.demonic;summon_ice_beast.20.demonic 21:18:01 blue devil (024) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 14/10 | Dam: 21(swoop) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 303 | Sp: freeze [06!sil], sum.ice beast [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 21:21:40 iron rod is the only rod they try to shoot at themselves too 21:22:04 and they don't fire ignition rods at all 21:22:07 sadly >8) 21:23:33 (yet) 21:23:39 that would be a nightmare to set up a tracer for 21:23:52 <|amethyst> there is already a tracer for it I believe 21:24:01 <|amethyst> for the targetter 21:24:51 lightning rods are random, i think 21:24:58 beam of inaccuracy does just fine 21:25:12 fires all over the place but never at itself 21:25:13 <|amethyst> the problem would be only cone rods 21:25:19 <|amethyst> maybe try rod of clouds 21:25:26 <|amethyst> s/would be/would most likely be/ 21:26:52 idiot killed himself >8) 21:27:58 nope, they're all pretty valid coordinates for that one too 21:29:00 it's just the scattershot that generates 0, 0 21:29:16 -!- ythm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:29:18 all the rest are like random floating point numbers between 0 and 100 21:29:23 <|amethyst> hm, does scattershot do the thing where it reuses the same bolt object for several beams in succession 21:29:30 I... think it might 21:29:36 <|amethyst> maybe there's a bug with the resetting 21:30:02 k 21:30:05 @??ice_beast 21:30:05 ice beast (12Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 19-38 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 512(cold:5-14) | amphibious | Res: 06magic(20), 12cold+++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 04fire | XP: 130 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 21:30:06 <|amethyst> (possibly related to aimed_at_feet? we've seen that before) 21:30:31 none of the other rods aim at itself though, it seems 21:31:07 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:31:28 I'm not sure how monster freeze would be different than af_cold 21:31:32 ??freeze 21:31:32 freeze[1/2]: A level 1 spell found in the book of Frost that never misses its target, but only has a range of one. It ignores the target's AC, bypassing damage reduction. It also can slow cold-blooded enemies, making it useful all the way through Lair. There's some sort of semi-stun that paralyses for a fraction of a turn depending on power. 1d13 at max power. Doesn't stun in 0.17+. 21:31:49 @??ice_devil hd:7 21:31:49 ice devil (163) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 27-48 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1612(cold:7-20) | 05demonic, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 243 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 21:32:28 basically just nerfed af_cold, since it's less cold damage and no accompanying melee damage 21:32:42 but guaranteed hit 21:32:47 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:33:40 it does it on the very first call to advance 21:34:43 there is guaranteed hit at least 21:35:19 basically I think AF_COLD a) might deal too much damage there b) overlaps white imps and ice devils 21:36:09 we can fine-tune the cold damage output by adjusting the frequency too 21:36:12 :) 21:36:16 *spell frequency 21:36:57 -!- twzt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:37:57 -!- kreedzfreak has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:38:03 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:38:42 (I admit this is partly because I want something other than the occasional deep elf mage to cast Freeze) 21:39:06 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 21:47:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:40 looks like it happens when shot at a square not in los 21:47:50 @??deep_elf_mage 21:47:51 deep elf mage (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 20-35 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 211 | Sp: b.magma (3d14), stone arrow (3d12) / flame tongue (3d9), sticky flame range (3d4), fireball (3d14), throw flame (3d6) / freeze, throw icicle (3d14), sum.ice beast / magic dart (3d4), force lance (3d10), battlesphere, mystic blast (3d12) / mystic blast (3d12),.. 21:48:24 It's not an ideal situation to have freeze as a monster spell, save maybe for something like mages that have randomized spell sets (a stretch), but it's probably just better overall than having swoop 21:48:31 !source targetter::set_aim 21:48:31 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/target.cc#l28 21:49:05 when that exits early, 'a' never gets set 21:49:08 so it remains 0,0 21:49:13 well, Freeze might be overkill anyway 21:49:22 I think just having Ice Beast could work 21:49:32 yeah that is pretty nasty 21:49:41 I mean, those all have af_cold already 21:49:55 it's just more indirect 21:51:21 did brain_freeze ever get implemented; I feel someone talked about that 21:51:29 maybe I just really would like a Slurpee 21:51:52 brain_freeze 21:51:57 I must not have been around for this discussion 21:52:43 @??apocalypse_crab 21:52:43 apocalypse crab (16t) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 39-64 | AC/EV: 11/6 | Dam: 1509(chaos), 1509(chaos) | 05demonic, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire++, 02cold++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 09poison, 08holy++, 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 447 | Sp: chaos breath (d12) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 21:52:50 ah they do have af_chaos 21:53:19 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:02 gammafunk: contemplating Chaos Nexuses? 21:54:20 it was my intent that they be rarer than other 1s just because I think the design might end up breaking things if they show up too often 21:54:40 (they're notably absent from SGD for example) 21:54:47 yeah my concern is too much af_chaos and "extended, so time to put on stasis" sorts of things 21:55:07 I had forgoten that the crabs have it, but of course they also have the clouds 21:55:40 basically I want a 1 that we can place on Mnoleg's level, but I don't think this is it <.< 21:55:47 if they're rarer that's probably good; apoc crabs are abyss only and pretty easy to just run from (and you run from things in the abyss as a rule) 21:56:20 when unconfused, the shot goes more or less right at you 21:56:34 when confused, the shot can go just about anywhere, including on the other side of a wall 21:56:39 hrm, oh you mean something more akin to gloorx's curse skulls 21:56:47 in that they actually make the fight significantly worse 21:57:08 when it does that, los fails, aim remains unset at 0,0, then everything falls apart 21:57:11 keep in mind that I am adding a few new toys to Mnoleg's spell set once 0.18 rolls around 21:57:29 almost certainly chaos clouds, possibly chain of chaos, less likely random bolt, possibly dig 21:57:47 (four more spells is probably too much - random bolt being the least likely) 21:57:59 ??chain_of_chaos 21:57:59 chain of chaos[1/1]: Xom effect. Kind of like chain lightning, but with chaos effects instead of elec damage. 21:58:04 oh 21:58:24 you might remember it from when chaos champions had it 21:58:29 yeah, I recall it didn't go well 21:58:34 actually I'm thinking of their shifting thing 21:58:35 those are too common of an enemy to get away with that effect, but I think having it on a unique might work 21:58:40 you are thinking of Rearrange the Pieces 21:58:43 right 21:58:47 and yeah re: uniques 21:58:48 which deserves to be taken out and shot, like it already has been 21:59:09 @??mnoleg 21:59:09 Mnoleg (09&) | Spd: 13 | HD: 17 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/25 | Dam: 4009(claw), 3509(mutation), 30, 2306(blink self) | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 10820 | Sp: sum.eyeballs [06!sil], malign gateway [06!sil], sum.horrible things [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 21:59:16 I'm wondering when/where Mnoleg lost Smiting 21:59:26 so, now the question is why does scattershot use hitfunc.set_aim(pos) and the others don't 21:59:41 the spell set he has right now is his semiclassical spellset (from just after Malign Gateway was introduced) but without smiting 21:59:46 me, when I tried to reform him 21:59:49 by giving him tentacles 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:10 then it wasn't working so I gave him more attacks and removed the tentacles 22:00:10 oh, here's a random insight 22:00:17 and gave back his old spells (save that one) 22:00:19 all of the panlords can produce clouds directly or indirectly except Mnoleg 22:00:25 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:26 *major panlords 22:00:45 Klown Klouds 22:00:54 we already have perfectly good Chaos Breath 22:00:59 (yes, that is the name of the spell) 22:01:06 yeah, thing about that though 22:01:13 is his massive list of summons spells and vault allies 22:01:32 like aren't gloorx's demons immune to miasma? 22:01:45 Cerebov's allies are not completely immune to Fire Storm 22:01:46 nothings immunie to chaos 22:01:50 sure 22:02:00 Lom's minions tend to get obliterated by Lom's spells 22:02:14 well lom is insane and full of crazy murder 22:02:20 <3 22:02:27 perhaps mnoleg will get to that level 22:02:28 (I remember when Lom was considered one of the weaker tier) 22:02:51 well ideally I want all the major panlords to be roughly equally murderously insane 22:03:14 if he became more self-sustained then murdering allies would be less of a concern 22:03:20 yes 22:03:23 but a lot of his kills are indirect now I think 22:03:35 !lg * current trunk cikiller=mnoleg / ckiller=mnoleg 22:03:36 4/11 games for * (current trunk cikiller=mnoleg): N=4/11 (36.36%) 22:03:40 !lg * recent cikiller=mnoleg / ckiller=mnoleg 22:03:40 13/36 games for * (recent cikiller=mnoleg): N=13/36 (36.11%) 22:03:46 !lg * cv>=0.14 cikiller=mnoleg / ckiller=mnoleg 22:03:47 13/38 games for * (cv>=0.14 cikiller=mnoleg): N=13/38 (34.21%) 22:03:57 I guess also you can do 22:03:59 I guess older games don't have cikiller 22:04:02 !lg * cv>=0.14 ikiller=mnoleg / ckiller=mnoleg 22:04:02 13/38 games for * (cv>=0.14 ikiller=mnoleg): N=13/38 (34.21%) 22:04:08 !lg * kmap~~cerebov / cikiller=cerebov 22:04:09 or Mnoleg is just that much of a pushover 22:04:09 156/217 games for * (kmap~~cerebov): N=156/217 (71.89%) 22:04:16 !lg * kmap~~mnoleg / ckiller=mnoleg 22:04:16 14/29 games for * (kmap~~mnoleg): N=14/29 (48.28%) 22:04:28 !lg * kmap~~cerebov / ckiller=cerebov 22:04:29 155/217 games for * (kmap~~cerebov): N=155/217 (71.43%) 22:04:39 !lg * kmap~~lom_lobon / ckiller=lom_lobon 22:04:39 46/68 games for * (kmap~~lom_lobon): N=46/68 (67.65%) 22:04:48 oh huh 22:04:49 !lg * kmap~~gloorx_vloq / ckiller=gloorx_vloq 22:04:49 47/85 games for * (kmap~~gloorx_vloq): N=47/85 (55.29%) 22:04:53 was expecting like 90% for lom 22:04:59 well Lom became a lot more lethal recently 22:05:02 so 22:05:14 !lg * recent kmap~~lom_lobon / ckiller=lom_lobon 22:05:15 37/46 games for * (recent kmap~~lom_lobon): N=37/46 (80.43%) 22:05:15 !lg * current trunk kmap~~lom_lobon ckiller!=lom_lobon s=ckiller% 22:05:15 One game for * (current trunk kmap~~lom_lobon ckiller!=lom_lobon): a draconian annihilator (100.00%) 22:05:30 !lg * current trunk kmap~~lom_lobon / ckiller=lom_lobon 22:05:31 20/21 games for * (current trunk kmap~~lom_lobon): N=20/21 (95.24%) 22:05:33 nice 22:05:40 yeah that's what I was expecting 22:05:50 what I'm contemplating is 22:05:51 hero drac annihilator 22:05:55 that guy got a promotion 22:06:05 early in 0.18, give Mnoleg most or all of that list of spells; observe carefully; remove the ones that cause problems 22:06:54 (also I have mentioned Gloorx and Executioners and Black Mark at some point, I hope?) 22:07:00 (maybe not outright) 22:07:54 yeah seems reasonable 22:07:57 ??black_mark 22:07:58 black mark[1/2]: Demonspawn mutation gained at level 3 of the negative energy facet. Gives melee attacks that deal damage a 1/5 chance of gaining a vampiric effect and applying antimagic, weakness or draining to the target. The vampiric effect affects all non-summoned monsters. 22:08:25 I am also amused at the suggestion someone made to give Gloorx LRD, which strikes me as out of character but perfectly sensible from Gloorx's point of view 22:08:40 (I' 22:08:49 (I'm not really sold on the idea right now, but I do find it amusing) 22:09:52 ??black mark[2 22:09:52 black mark[2/2]: Also a monster spell, from {black sun}s and {Murray}. Any allies in LOS as well as the caster begin absorbing vital energies, and any melee done will, with no rN check, heal said individuals as well as either drain XP, speed, or mp. (This has an antimagic, slowing, or HD drain effect on other monsters). Not that dangerous without the right ally. 22:11:21 holy crap 22:12:00 suddenly those Executioners become a lot less ignorable 22:12:17 was this a hangedman thing originally 22:12:21 yes 22:12:54 I'm not sure that description is 100% up to date but it should be fairly close if it isn't 22:13:39 ??af_klown 22:13:39 af klown[1/1]: Special damage type used by Killer Klowns. Per attack randomly: strong poison, pain, drain speed, fire, cold, elec, antimagic, acid. 22:14:16 well it's kind of "apply off-brand klown melee to all monsters in los" 22:14:28 but that's not too bad 22:14:43 kind of like how it's giving basically a (not insane) brand to monsters that don't normally get one 22:15:43 "any melee done" confused me at first since I wasn't sure if this was like "done by the player to the caster" but I assume that's "done by the recipient monster to its target" 22:16:03 let's do a hypothetical 22:16:11 Gloorx has a pet Executioner and is battling the player 22:16:15 Gloorx casts Black Mark 22:16:26 both Gloorx and the Executioner gain the black mark effect 22:16:41 so both Gloorx's melee and the Executioner's melee will deal those effects to the player 22:17:43 yeah basically it's "give monsters nasty brand"; this is maybe not terribly different from just giving them the brand in the first place 22:17:49 but los does change a lot 22:18:15 if gloorx could only cast it on himself I'd be raging 22:18:29 * gammafunk rages. gammafunk burns. 22:18:44 gammafunk, incinerated by the fiery rage of gammafunk. 22:19:04 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:56 |amethyst: you there? 22:24:21 replace lines 1240 and 1241 of target.cc with simply 'aim = a;' and the problem is solved 22:25:06 what a crazy debugging trail that was 22:25:11 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:25:21 !lg 22:25:22 436. hyperactiveChipmunk the Acrobat (L24 SpAM of Qazlal), mangled by an emperor scorpion (summoned by a greater mummy) on Tomb:2 (tomb_2; tomb_2_ambush_old) on 2015-10-18 23:53:38, with 526824 points after 153600 turns and 17:49:34. 22:26:16 only took me...four and a half hours 22:26:36 <|amethyst> why can't the agent see the position? 22:26:49 because it's way the heck on the other side of a wall 22:27:19 the other wands check that and do some stuff 22:27:37 iron rod just says, "i can't see it, so return without setting aim" 22:27:41 then tries to shoot anyway 22:27:54 but it's not aimed at anything 22:28:03 <|amethyst> hm 22:28:20 <|amethyst> what's calling targetter_shotgun::set_aim ? 22:28:24 i don't see the harm in just having it shoot off in that direction 22:28:32 <|amethyst> sounds like that is the problem 22:28:55 <|amethyst> well, we don't normally let the player !-target squares they can't see 22:28:55 !source cast_scattershot 22:28:56 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc#l3046 22:29:13 <|amethyst> while I don't mind changing that policy, if it is it should be for all spells, not just this one 22:29:34 <|amethyst> s/it is it/it is changed, it/ 22:30:01 <|amethyst> hm, so two options. 22:30:03 other aiming functions are a lot more careful about it 22:30:10 this one just barfs 22:30:16 <|amethyst> 1. make it not fire if randomly aims at a wall 22:30:25 <|amethyst> that is kind of bad I think 22:30:37 like, lightning rod can be shot to the other side of the wall, but it gets handled 22:30:52 in the aiming function 22:30:55 instead of just aborting 22:31:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:31:20 but that involves all the swooshing stuff so i didn't think it was a very good analogue to just lift from there 22:32:07 <|amethyst> 2. whatever random position is being picked by confused rod fuzzing, project it back to the monster until you hit the monster's LOS 22:32:13 <|amethyst> three options 22:32:15 i think the idea, though, is that it just dials back the target point until it's back in vision 22:32:19 yeah 22:32:37 i think that's what the others do 22:32:41 but i didn't look too carefull 22:32:42 y 22:33:03 <|amethyst> 3. don't let confused monsters fire rods 22:33:09 third option is to just keep shooting until one works 22:33:18 fourth ^ 22:33:22 <|amethyst> hypractvChipmunk: that's nearly as bad as 1 I think 22:33:35 3 would be consistent with the player 22:33:42 player can't shoot rods when confused 22:34:01 not sure why monsters can 22:34:15 probably to avoid having to swap weapons 22:34:26 wait, they just drop things they don't wield though, right? 22:34:30 so there's nothing to swap 22:34:42 they're perfectly happy to bash you with the rod, too 22:34:53 <|amethyst> probably because it's hilarious 22:35:00 >8D 22:35:08 <|amethyst> actually, it's because it used to be that players worked like monsters 22:35:08 (see: minotaur) 22:35:25 but this is when confused, at least 22:35:36 well, it's both 22:35:46 but it's probably no problem if they're bashing you with it while confused 22:35:56 because that's appropriately amusing 22:36:58 lemme see if that would even be allowed for the player; i don't think it would even be able to get to that point 22:37:13 (to target an out-of-los square) 22:37:56 oh, dear, it goes crazy >8) 22:38:12 okay, guess it at least visits that code 22:38:35 it's harmless, but potentially confusing 22:38:52 plus the targeter draws off at a funky angle soon as you go out of los 22:39:09 yeah, that's no good 22:40:21 -!- Laraso has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41:49 actually, that's the only difference 22:42:08 because the next line handles it if it's the player 22:43:26 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:44:31 we can do it the crawl way and say if !agent->is_player() aim = a; else ... 22:44:54 then just do what's there now 22:45:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:52 http://sprunge.us/QGTF 22:48:44 !wtf OgTF 22:48:45 Unemployed Ogre 22:48:50 -!- amalloy has left ##crawl-dev 22:49:39 QGTFO 22:49:40 oh that's a Q 22:49:43 =( 22:50:32 it follows Article One, Section I, Paragraph 1 of the Crawl Best Practices Guide: if in doubt, special case it! 22:50:49 ??grunt[SPECIAL 22:50:50 grunt[21/27]: HILARIOUSLY SPECIFIC SPECIAL CASES WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA 22:50:52 <3 22:51:37 lol 22:51:41 i'm in good company! 22:51:49 great minds, etc. 22:51:54 !death hypractvChipmunk 22:51:54 Death has come for hypractvChipmunk... 22:52:00 at least a comment 22:54:08 * hypractvChipmunk welcomes in Death and asks to see a brochure. 22:55:29 ?/Death has come for you 22:55:29 Matching entries (1): funny_messages[13]: _Death has come for you... _The reaper shouts, "I have come for you, minmay!" 22:56:08 i got that message today for the first time 22:56:15 <3 22:56:15 i think it happened when a mummy died or something 22:56:18 yes 22:56:27 it is a necromancy miscast, and ergo also a death curse effect 22:56:32 there's also this 22:56:35 ??scythe of curses[2 22:56:35 scythe of curses[2/3]: Death has come for the toadstool... 22:56:35 and a reaper popped up behind me 22:57:31 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:57:38 i got no help at all from the loot distribution in that game >8\ 22:58:08 only one acquirement scroll, and i even used it on ammo, despite it being pretty early in the game 22:58:14 and i still ran out 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:07 i thought i could make stones with my rod of disintegration but that message is a total lie >8( 23:04:10 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:04:24 ex-true, I think 23:04:36 really? sadness >8( 23:05:06 another moment where the game lets you think you're going to be super-clever but then nope 23:09:18 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:14:50 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:15:34 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:17:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:36 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:21:45 -!- Syndicus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:57 -!- Syndicus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:00 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:25:03 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:29:11 already picked up more stones in this game by D:5 then i got all of the 20 hours playing the other one >8( 23:29:15 than* 23:29:22 !blame3 Grunt 23:29:22 Gruuuuunt 23:37:11 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44:19 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:47:02 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:55 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 23:52:46 |amethyst: you were wondering earlier about whether there was another god with a less-useful first ability...would Zin's 'a - Donate Gold' qualify? 23:56:47 even starts with d!