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i want to be 10k, lemme report a bug real quick 16:02:34 what if i get there first, with: "bug: mantis is being used as a toy" 16:03:14 its ok, ill just report new device heal stuff or something. surely theres something wrong with it in some form 16:03:32 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:00 bug 10k: "Refactor all the code." 16:04:22 bug: under certain circumstances, something unexpected occurs 16:05:30 bug: "sometimes players who get unusually deep in the dungeon discover very strange monsters and a mysterious glowing orb" 16:05:41 bug: "players die often" 16:06:02 working as intended, i suppose 16:06:10 oh my god. this guy has his "not in LOS" color changed from gerey to bright magenta 16:06:26 D:3 looks like zot:5 16:06:27 fr: xom converts the player on every step 16:12:16 amalloy: do you mean crate 16:12:50 no, it's uh...allbefore. some guy playing in csdc 16:12:54 well he hasnt played in over half a year so i guess it is someone else who copied it 16:14:41 amalloy: When every level feels like Zot:5, every level feels like victory! 16:14:55 !lm Lasty 16:14:56 12179. [2015-10-06 02:51:20] Lasty the Covert (L17 DgEn) left the Shoals on turn 47432. (Shoals:1) 16:15:13 still not getting those milestones, huh? 16:16:17 !lm Lasty nawz 16:16:18 No milestones for Lasty (nawz). 16:16:22 !lm lasty cdo 16:16:23 No milestones for lasty (cdo). 16:16:30 !lm cdo nawz 16:16:31 No milestones for cdo (nawz). 16:16:36 !lm * cdo nawz 16:16:38 18067. [2015-10-07 12:35:15] ldf the Sneak (L1 NaWz) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 16:16:48 !lm * cdo nawz name=lasty 16:16:49 17. [2015-10-07 01:05:58] Lasty the Destroyer (L14 NaWz of Dithmenos) killed Kirke on turn 28167. (D:15) 16:16:58 yeah, apparently it's still weird. 16:17:09 !lm ldf 16:17:10 7274. [2015-10-07 15:23:53] ldf the Tainter (L8 NaWz of Vehumet) killed Duvessa on turn 8675. (D:4) 16:17:24 !lm ldf x=server 16:17:25 Unknown field: server 16:17:29 :shrug: 16:17:35 odd that LDF seems to be getting them 16:23:43 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:56 !kw lasty 16:25:56 No keyword 'lasty' 16:26:00 !nick lasty 16:26:00 Mapping lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro) lasty 16:26:05 gotcha 16:26:31 you did this to yourself, Lasty_ 16:29:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:31:32 bug: every level looks like zot:5 16:32:42 Lasty_: you can ask the server admins to had those other accounts to you 16:32:54 I think devs get priority on their main account name 16:33:24 %git 16:33:24 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-1997-ga88ed7d: Adjust some changelog entries 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a88ed7d66543 16:33:34 dangit, did he find more changelog errors 16:35:06 oh was cure all mutations not altar-based? 16:36:42 indeed it wasn't 16:37:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:39:53 amalloy: heh, oops 16:40:24 gammafunk: I did get possession of all of them, but they still had some old games from the old player 16:40:32 !nick lasty lasty 16:40:33 Mapping lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro) lasty 16:40:37 !lg lasty 16:40:38 oh that's good 16:40:38 466. Lasty the Demonologist (L24 DrWz of Yredelemnul), got out of the dungeon with 3 runes on 2015-10-02 23:32:24, with 541390 points after 83515 turns and 5:18:56. 16:40:41 !lg lasty 1 16:40:42 1/466. Lasty the Pyromancer (L27 DgCj), escaped with the Orb and 7 runes on 2014-02-22 18:24:33, with 3307428 points after 141199 turns and 16:26:51. 16:40:46 hrrm 16:40:54 yeah I guess removng those old games would be a bit weird, although it's doable 16:40:55 erg 16:41:11 !help !nick 16:41:12 !nick lasty (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty 16:41:12 !nick: !nick: Maps a nick to name(s) used on the public servers. Usage: !nick ...; !nick -rm ; !nick -rm 16:41:13 Mapping lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty 16:41:19 !lg lasty 1 16:41:21 1/482. Lasty the Fey Orc (L10 HODK of Yredelemnul), slain by a black mamba on Lair:2 on 2012-02-20 03:18:12, with 5024 points after 11982 turns and 4:09:28. 16:41:24 yeah, there it is 16:41:41 !nick gammafunk 16:41:41 No nick mapping for gammafunk. 16:41:48 I forgot which server I was pretending didn't exist :p 16:42:14 !gamesby lasty 16:42:15 lasty has played 482 games, between 2011-09-04 09:45:59 and 2015-10-02 23:32:24, won 114 (23.7%), high score 15388117, total score 256131835, total turns 16803014, play-time/day 0:46:34, total time 48d+4:44:27. 16:42:21 !gamesby . 16:42:22 gammafunk has played 3368 games, between 2012-04-26 17:48:23 and 2015-10-07 06:45:24, won 33 (1.0%), high score 24084354, total score 164804831, total turns 17979365, play-time/day 2:00:44, total time 105d+15:30:20. 16:42:33 !nick lasty start>2013-01-01 lasty 16:42:34 Mapping lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty start>2013-01-01 16:42:36 yes, my total time leaves you in the dust 16:42:44 !gamesby lasty 16:42:45 lasty has played 482 games, between 2011-09-04 09:45:59 and 2015-10-02 23:32:24, won 114 (23.7%), high score 15388117, total score 256131835, total turns 16803014, play-time/day 0:46:34, total time 48d+4:44:27. 16:42:50 !lg lasty 1 16:42:51 1/482. Lasty the Fey Orc (L10 HODK of Yredelemnul), slain by a black mamba on Lair:2 on 2012-02-20 03:18:12, with 5024 points after 11982 turns and 4:09:28. 16:43:02 !lg devteamnp x=sum(dur) s=name 16:43:03 60497 games for devteamnp: 11240x Neil [70d+8:49:49], 10454x KiloByte [126d+17:00:49], 6247x 78291 [303d+2:45:41], 3486x wheals [50d+7:33:23], 3393x sorear [101d+17:54:41], 3368x gammafunk [105d+15:30:20], 3089x MarvinPA [111d+0:56:21], 2206x rob [110d+17:27:02], 2079x dpeg [67d+10:13:46], 1706x bh [29d+9:38:46], 1440x SamB [13d+12:25:26], 1385x SGrunt [45d+16:53:59], 1360x bookofjude [25d+19:57:1... 16:43:05 I guess it doesn't respect the "start" thing 16:43:11 !lg devteamnp x=sum(dur) s=name o=sum(dur) 16:43:13 60497 games for devteamnp: 6247x 78291 [303d+2:45:41], 10454x KiloByte [126d+17:00:49], 3089x MarvinPA [111d+0:56:21], 2206x rob [110d+17:27:02], 3368x gammafunk [105d+15:30:20], 3393x sorear [101d+17:54:41], 551x elliptic [75d+9:39:35], 11240x Neil [70d+8:49:49], 2079x dpeg [67d+10:13:46], 531x Medar [66d+11:48:53], 951x doy [63d+0:29:22], 893x erisdiscordia [56d+7:52:34], 3486x wheals [50d+7:33:... 16:43:16 !lg lasty 1 x=start 16:43:17 1/482. [start=2011-09-04 09:45:59 [20110804094559S]] Lasty the Fey Orc (L10 HODK of Yredelemnul), slain by a black mamba on Lair:2 on 2012-02-20 03:18:12, with 5024 points after 11982 turns and 4:09:28. 16:43:35 hey I'm on track to be no. 1 16:44:23 !gamesby . !gfspeed 16:44:24 !nick lasty start>20130101000000S lasty 16:44:24 gammafunk (!gfspeed) has played 632 games, between 2012-04-26 17:48:23 and 2015-09-06 11:45:25, won 32 (5.1%), high score 12440597, total score 115295701, total turns 9382064, play-time/day 0:57:23, total time 48d+23:44:22. 16:44:25 Mapping lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty start>2013-01-01 start>20130101000000s 16:44:26 !nick lasty (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty start>201301010000000 16:44:27 Mapping lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty start>2013-01-01 start>20130101000000s start>201301010000000 16:44:32 !lg lasty 1 16:44:33 1/482. Lasty the Fey Orc (L10 HODK of Yredelemnul), slain by a black mamba on Lair:2 on 2012-02-20 03:18:12, with 5024 points after 11982 turns and 4:09:28. 16:44:48 sorry, looks like i raced you with a wrong answer 16:44:52 yeah 16:45:05 I think it's just not respecting that clause 16:45:13 oh the date looks wrong 16:45:38 the date string has a 0-based month and I'm not even sure that form works at all 16:45:50 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:45:59 !lg lasty start>"2013-01-01 00:00:00" 1 16:46:00 1/466. Lasty the Pyromancer (L27 DgCj), escaped with the Orb and 7 runes on 2014-02-22 18:24:33, with 3307428 points after 141199 turns and 16:26:51. 16:46:09 ah, sweet 16:46:18 or just 16:46:20 !nick lasty start>"2013-01-01 00:00:00" 16:46:21 Mapping lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty start>2013-01-01 start>20130101000000s start>201301010000000 start>"2013-01-01 00:00:00" 16:46:23 !lg lasty start>"2013-01-01" 1 16:46:24 1/466. Lasty the Pyromancer (L27 DgCj), escaped with the Orb and 7 runes on 2014-02-22 18:24:33, with 3307428 points after 141199 turns and 16:26:51. 16:46:30 !lg lasty 1 16:46:31 1/482. Lasty the Fey Orc (L10 HODK of Yredelemnul), slain by a black mamba on Lair:2 on 2012-02-20 03:18:12, with 5024 points after 11982 turns and 4:09:28. 16:46:32 yeah just a date 16:46:35 is enough 16:46:36 nooope 16:46:45 you need to remove those others 16:46:47 ah 16:46:53 !nick del lasty 16:46:53 Mapping del => lasty 16:46:55 argh 16:46:57 and yeah just 2013-01-01 16:46:58 did it again 16:47:04 !nick -rm Lasty 16:47:05 Deleted lasty => (cao|cszo|cbro|cdo) lasty start>2013-01-01 start>20130101000000s start>201301010000000 start>"2013-01-01 00:00:00" 16:47:12 !nick -rm del 16:47:12 !nick -rm del 16:47:13 Deleted del => lasty 16:47:13 No nick mapping for del. 16:47:16 oops :) 16:47:29 !nick lasty lasty start>"2013-01-01" 16:47:30 Mapping lasty => lasty start>"2013-01-01" 16:47:34 !lg lasty 1 16:47:35 1/482. Lasty the Fey Orc (L10 HODK of Yredelemnul), slain by a black mamba on Lair:2 on 2012-02-20 03:18:12, with 5024 points after 11982 turns and 4:09:28. 16:47:41 :p 16:47:45 hrm 16:47:46 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:47:52 Lasty_: needs parens probly 16:47:59 oh is it parens? 16:48:06 !nick -rm lasty 16:48:08 Deleted lasty => lasty start>"2013-01-01" 16:48:15 like you did with the server list 16:48:18 !nick lasty lasty (start>"2013-01-01") 16:48:19 ??lg 16:48:19 listgame[1/5]: !lg command displays info about past games. The manual is available here: https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md 16:48:19 Mapping lasty => (start>"2013-01-01") lasty 16:48:26 !lg lasty 1 16:48:27 1/466. Lasty the Pyromancer (L27 DgCj), escaped with the Orb and 7 runes on 2014-02-22 18:24:33, with 3307428 points after 141199 turns and 16:26:51. 16:48:30 yay 16:48:31 also quotes aren't necessary unless you use space 16:48:32 looks who's smart 16:48:55 sequell is MAGIC 16:48:57 hint: not the guy who wrote "looks who's" 16:49:17 * amalloy look's whose smart 16:49:20 It was your 19th century american street accent 16:50:07 !lg . s=src 16:50:08 3368 games for gammafunk: 3311x cszo, 16x cdo, 15x cbro, 12x cao, 4x cwz, 3x lld, 2x cpo, 2x ckr, 2x cue, cxc 16:51:29 !lg . s=src 16:51:30 329 games for amalloy: 329x cao 16:51:35 really 16:51:53 i know i played some on cbro or something. i guess i didn't use this name, or set up a mapping 16:52:05 i think i was trying to streak when CAO went down 16:52:30 I don't think I've seen cue before 16:53:26 it's just another one of those anti-american servers 16:53:36 doesn't believe all crawl should be played in america 16:54:06 heh 16:54:09 bunch of jerks 16:58:33 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58:37 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:10 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:05:53 ??cue 17:05:54 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.16 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 17:06:00 used to be clan 17:06:09 ??clan 17:06:10 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.16 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 17:06:32 !lg * thisyear 17:06:33 852810. Unum the Sorcerer (L14 DECj of Sif Muna), blasted by a young spriggan druid (angry trees) on Lair:8 (minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest) on 2015-10-07 21:05:10, with 59592 points after 24740 turns and 2:00:38. 17:06:36 !lg * thisyear s=src 17:06:38 852810 games for * (thisyear): 240772x cao, 228830x cszo, 95579x cwz, 82518x cbro, 59136x cxc, 55782x cdo, 54321x cue, 14998x lld, 13859x cpo, 7015x ckr 17:07:14 I guess cxc has overtaken it a bit 17:07:19 ??cxc 17:07:19 cXc[1/2]: Server in France: CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM -- ssh port 22, username crawl, uses CAO key (available at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/keys/). Webtiles address: http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM 17:08:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:14:32 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 17:17:27 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:47 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:42 -!- NilsBloodaxe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:59 -!- NilsBloodaxe has left ##crawl-dev 17:24:33 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:24:51 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:27:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:30:34 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:30:51 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:57 -!- Cacophony has quit [Changing host] 17:33:21 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:43 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:36:03 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:23 -!- Lasty1 is now known as Lasty 17:47:39 -!- raskol` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:48:02 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:10 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:50:30 -!- Earlord has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51:12 -!- Porost is now known as Poroso 17:51:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:52:01 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:53:54 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:54:25 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:56:41 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:18 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:45 -!- DrStalker has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:04:13 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:05:02 Lasty: By the way, have you thought about any tournament banner changes? I need to sit down and take a look at them 18:05:37 We should definitely get the tournament/release at least *scheduled* this month 18:05:37 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1997-ga88ed7d (34) 18:06:16 -!- omarax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:06:58 gammafunk: I haven't yet heard from anyone which banners they thought need changing 18:07:03 but agreed re: tourney 18:10:06 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:11:10 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:11:37 -!- Cacophony has quit [Changing host] 18:15:16 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:17:23 !lg mrplanck nawz 18:17:24 -!- pintc has quit [Changing host] 18:17:24 3. MrPlanck the Covert (L14 NaWz of Dithmenos), slain by an entropy weaver zombie (kmap: gammafunk_depths_entry_grave) on D:15 on 2015-10-07 21:54:32, with 50055 points after 27727 turns and 1:46:06. 18:17:30 Lasty-gammafunk tag team 18:18:50 good work, team 18:19:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:21:11 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:34 -!- SirLicksAlot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:23:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:24:58 why should csdc be easy, after all? 18:27:00 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:30:17 lotta people going to depths instead of elf 18:30:19 no idea who 18:30:21 er why 18:30:45 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:30:53 huh, i just noticed an apparent bug logged in the morgue of a recent game: see the notes section of http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/morgue-amalloy-20151005-025818.txt 18:31:18 what's the bug? 18:31:34 amalloy st set off with: ... 18:31:43 er, set off with 18:32:12 yeah, that doesn't look good 18:32:39 apparently one of the functions involved got changed to interact differently with empty slots... 18:32:52 mantis it 18:32:52 ? 18:32:55 good items 18:33:56 <|amethyst> that was probably my fault 18:35:01 <|amethyst> yeah 18:35:07 <|amethyst> %git e68714429 18:35:08 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-1874-ge687144: C++11: More range-based for loops and algorithms. 10(2 weeks ago, 39 files, 237+ 354-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6871442934c 18:35:15 <|amethyst> I completely removed the definedness check 18:35:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:35:22 <|amethyst> doh 18:35:36 -!- Mindiell has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:35:45 haha, oops 18:35:55 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:04 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:36:14 -!- swartzcr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:42:19 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:44:45 hehe 18:46:13 -!- devesine_ is now known as devesine 18:46:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:48:35 -!- beanscad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:50:43 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:51:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:51:58 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:06 ??tournament 18:55:06 tournament[1/4]: The 0.16 tournament ran from 20:00 UTC Mar 13 to 20:00 UTC Mar 29. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/overview.html 18:55:16 who admins that domain 18:55:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55:33 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:53 some scrub 18:58:19 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:58:46 -!- Demise_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:52 Lasty: here were my thoughts about tournament scoring FWIW http://sprunge.us/LOeE 19:11:31 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:12:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:16:23 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:31 -!- sgun_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:22:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:23 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:23:52 -!- staplegun has quit [Client Quit] 19:25:25 -!- Demise has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:36:55 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:36:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:38:30 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:39:23 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:39:46 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:40:38 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:51:03 -!- ventricule has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:00 hi devs, I am trying to implement seeded games, so that the dungeon generation always stays the same for a given seed 19:54:44 to do that, I used different states for the RNG and detect when the dungeon is being built using crawl_state.generating_level 19:55:32 this works well, sometimes for a few levels, sometimes for just one 19:56:14 and then at some point it looks like the choice of which vaults get put in a dungeon level differs 19:56:28 which starts deregulating the whole machine 19:57:02 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:13 so I would like to know if somehow some steps of the dungeon generation happen when the boolean crawl_state.generating_level is false 19:57:31 maybe pertaining to vaults 19:58:05 thanks for the help, if anyone knows! 19:58:10 there's supposed to be separate RNGs so that specifying a seed gives you the same dungeon 19:59:53 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:46 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:01:04 well so far (at least in the master branch), there are only 2 RNGs 20:01:15 one for the ui, and one for the rest 20:01:41 therefore, any random roll (like choosing random character in the startup screen) desynchronizes seeded games 20:02:23 hi ventricule 20:02:42 hi chequers 20:03:00 my optimism from yesterday somewhat diminished 20:03:09 nice work on what you've done so far -- I hadn't even started coding this yet 20:03:37 but I feel like I am very close 20:04:30 There are a couple of catches with deterministic generation in that way, one obvious one is that gozag's call merchant ability changes future dungeon level generation 20:05:15 yes, this and shafts are my main worry 20:05:38 there was another approach suggested by |amethyst 20:05:58 essentially, create a savefile with levels generated but no character data, and modify the game to load levels from there 20:06:31 this has its own problems though, like timed portal logic, item generation at leveltime which sometimes depends on character data, etc 20:06:52 ventricule: not just shafts, but the order the player explores branches 20:07:17 amalloy: this can be solved by using a different rng for every branch 20:08:00 sure, although how do you produce those? whatever solution you choose for producung per-branch rng might as well be used for a per-floor rng 20:08:17 and then shafts wouldn't be a problem 20:08:22 amalloy: except for pan 20:09:10 amalloy: but I agree that since there are no shafts in pan, a mixed approach should work 20:09:27 not a bad idea. take the base seed and generate a per-floor seed from that 20:09:40 problem is that still the inputs to level generation are not fixed throughout the game 20:09:44 -!- surr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:10:10 ventricule: pan too. the first pan floor you go to is pan:1, the next is pan:2... 20:10:14 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 20:10:23 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:10:41 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:10:53 as long as you can place demonic rune on any floor that could work 20:11:03 so that when you pick it up doesn't effect future level layout 20:11:10 -!- fazisi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:11:35 so you just need a deterministic function with signature like: long level_seed(long base_seed, branch b, int floor) 20:12:15 eg, concat all those bytes together and md5 the resulting byte array or whatever 20:12:15 amalloy: yes indeed 20:12:33 i'm a little unsure about abyss 20:12:43 what does it mean to have a seeded abyss? 20:12:52 amalloy: it just is a bit more work than just changing the number of rngs from 2 to NUM_BRANCHES+2 20:13:24 chequers: apart from gozag and demonic runes, are there other non-fixed inputs to level generation? 20:13:48 -!- KaibaCorp has quit [Quit: Summon Butterflies!! Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄ ~ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄ ~ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄] 20:13:49 whether you've seen a unique 20:13:55 amalloy: no idea, abyss is not part of my plan at least 20:14:22 ventricule: I don't really know, I haven't looked closely 20:14:32 I think it's fine to have abyss stay random 20:14:37 what is the advantage of having seeded level gen anyway? i can imagine ways it might be useful but none of them are super compelling 20:14:47 daily challenge 20:14:53 some fun tournament 20:15:12 and bot optimization 20:15:42 but yeah, so I think if we can add a mode like ./crawl --generate-level-data tourney-level.sav --seed 1111 20:15:43 it's really easy to cheat at a seeded daily challenge where account creation is free 20:15:58 likewise tournament 20:15:58 then we can create the level file and people can load it with ./crawl --with-level-data tourney-level.sav 20:16:09 amalloy: so? 20:17:18 well, for a daily challenge with no scoreboard that's probably not a big deal. but if you want a leaderboard or a tournament, people who care about doing well will be upset that other people can produce good scores on demand 20:19:26 i would imagine that the main point would not be a superserious tournament, but more to see how different people react to an interesting randart on D5 20:20:00 personally i think it would be really cool and fun to play the same game as some other people 20:20:11 -!- Brannock has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:51 and i don't much care about "losing" to people. i just worry that folks will take this thing more seriously whether you expect them to or not 20:23:49 -!- swartzcr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:33:08 -!- xtwv has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:34:22 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 20:35:00 there will definitely be a scoreboard in the long run 20:35:53 if people want to cheat they are welcome to, I think we can manage it with a manual blacklist for v1 20:42:39 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:01 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:38 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:52:51 -!- raskol` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:53:51 .crushed 20:53:52 263. gilsham the Severer (L16 FoFi of Jiyva), thrown by an octopode crusher on Shoals:1 (cheibrodos_shoals_oceanic_diplomacy) on 2015-10-07 12:43:54, with 75973 points after 20802 turns and 1:18:02. 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:56 -!- daiy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:13:51 Lasty: are juggernauts earth themed? 21:14:33 gammafunk: well, they've got iron plates on them 21:14:47 er wait 21:14:51 that part didn't get added 21:15:00 I think I'll update it now. 21:15:51 well, into the earth zig level they go 21:15:56 (also giant zig levels, of course) 21:19:12 How 'bout this: 21:19:13 it'd be nice if we had a systematic way to weight these sets by depth 21:19:13 "A gigantic humanoid with thick iron plates welded to its skin. Its immense 21:19:13 fists can deal incredible damage. It sprints towards its targets, but has to 21:19:13 rest between blows." 21:19:18 erg, sorry 'bout that 21:20:52 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:21:21 Last two sentances need a bit of editing maybe 21:21:58 yeah... 21:22:07 Suggestions? 21:22:08 Juggernauts sprint towards their targets, their immense fists dealing incredible damage, but have to rest between blows 21:22:21 yeah, that's better 21:22:32 not great either but less repitition at least 21:22:48 it keeps the damage-related stuff on one line 21:22:57 er, together 21:23:35 Maybe it can get an ironic transifex treatment from Galehar 21:24:12 I think it was he that did the purposely awful frederick text 21:24:23 hahaha 21:25:36 oh, we can fit in entropy weavers somewhere probably 21:25:48 ah, they're in spider 21:26:01 true 21:26:06 earth would be good for them 21:26:06 how about stormcallers? 21:26:11 yeah could do for fire 21:26:26 I just don't want to dilute the already great difficulty of fire since those are low hp 21:26:31 but they should be in there to some degree 21:26:32 ah true 21:26:36 acid zig when 21:26:43 caustic shrikes only zig 21:26:45 or corrosion zig i guess 21:26:48 some smite targetted fire damage would be good 21:26:52 shrikes are already in zigs, no? 21:26:59 Lasty_: nah, there can be shard shrikes in there too 21:27:04 ah, lair zig 21:27:13 03Lasty02 07* 0.17-a0-1998-geb42da1: Update juggernaut flavor. 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb42da1ef344 21:27:46 mm, great new juggernaut flavour, same great juggernaut gameplay 21:30:30 -!- raskol` is now known as raskol 21:30:44 ??entropy_weaver 21:30:45 entropy weaver[1/2]: A monster that chants for 3 turns and then gives you 4 stacks of corrosion. Has four melee attacks and comes with a small band of spiders in order to capitalize on your corrosion. Spawns in Spider, Vaults, and Depths. New in 0.17. 21:33:20 oh, hey, I want to try!...."With a lethal burst of speed, this massive humanoid swiftly closes in on its target and punishes it with a single mighty blow from its enormous iron-plated fist. Such an incredible amount of energy is unleashed with each crushing impact that it takes several moments before the Juggernaut is prepared to strike again." 21:34:28 hm, pronouns need cleaning up a bit 21:34:38 ??stormcaller 21:34:38 I don't have a page labeled stormcaller in my learndb. 21:34:42 ??storm_caller 21:34:43 I don't have a page labeled storm_caller in my learndb. 21:34:49 ?/firestorm 21:34:50 Matching terms (1): firestorm; entries (9): abjuration[3] | cerebov_challenge[1] | goodreddit[5] | Level_9_Spells[1] | MEGAKILL[2] | mesmerise[1] | ncrawl[1] | not_desperate_enough[5] | ziggurat[3] 21:35:10 hypractvChipmunk: david attenborough plays crawl 21:35:16 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:20 >8D 21:35:27 I'll take that as high compliment 21:35:28 @??salamander_stormcaller 21:35:28 salamander stormcaller (05N) | Spd: 10 (swim: 70%) | HD: 15 | HP: 67-84 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1004(fire:15-29) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 04fire+++ | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1262 | Sp: conjure flame (42d1), sticky flame range (3d6), chant fire storm | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 21:37:05 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:38:55 s/its\ enormous/an\ enormous/ 21:39:03 -!- arta has quit [Client Quit] 21:39:08 ease up on the ambiguous pronouns a bit 21:39:37 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39:51 maybe zig themes should chang the monster list based on their depth 21:40:00 eg depth <10, you get stormcallers, but not after 21:41:00 is that necessary? shouldn't the HD total more or less make that work out? 21:41:17 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:42:12 not sure if his suggestion was intended to improve balance or give more distinctiveness to each level 21:42:50 presumably not necessary, if the former; but if the latter, it's not a bad idea 21:43:19 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:27 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 21:46:25 @??iron_dragon 21:46:25 iron dragon (10D) | Spd: 8 | HD: 18 | HP: 105-129 | AC/EV: 20/6 | Dam: 25, 2509(claw), 2507(trample) | see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(160), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 1717 | Sp: metal splinters (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 21:47:36 changing by depths is general not what you want to do 21:47:42 since depth lowers the number of monsters already 21:47:47 *generally 21:47:56 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:13 well increased depth means more monsters 21:48:37 -!- unimpressed_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:48:52 We do have some depth-based conditions but it's basically all over the place; kind of needs a uniform approach 21:49:37 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:51:29 point me where the go and i can take a shot at that 21:53:30 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:44 well, lemme rephrase that, since you already said it's "all over the place" 21:55:21 define the problem for me and I'll have a look 21:59:01 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:12 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02:29 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:03:41 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:23 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 22:05:51 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:07:16 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08:47 -!- cojitoo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:09:21 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:58 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:20:06 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:31 @??gargoyle 22:20:31 gargoyle (159) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 20-35 | AC/EV: 18/6 | Dam: 20 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 415 | Sp: stone arrow (3d12) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 22:25:56 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 22:28:16 -!- rhayde` is now known as daiy 22:30:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:23 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:44:17 ventricule: if you want to put your code up on github i'd like to take a look btw 22:45:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:53:43 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 22:56:16 -!- wheals_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:57:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1999-gb1b0091: Allow comma_separated_fn to take a filter. 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 17+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b1b0091624d5 22:57:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-2000-g195c1f8: Fix wanderer starting inventory note (amalloy) 10(23 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/195c1f89f917 22:59:18 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:00 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:08:29 -!- daiy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:08:31 -!- Guest51058 is now known as fazisi 23:15:32 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:18:20 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:51 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:48 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:15 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:16 The build was broken. (master - 195c1f8 #3320 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/84226232 23:27:16 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:27:43 <|amethyst> hm 23:28:27 <|amethyst> that didn't work in g++ 4.8 23:28:39 <|amethyst> works in 4.9 and in clang 23:28:40 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:29:17 oh, travis uses 4.8? 23:29:30 oh, 4.6 23:29:35 <|amethyst> our travis build uses 4.8 23:29:42 <|amethyst> we claim to support 4.7 23:29:46 ah I see 23:30:01 upgrades it in before_install.2 23:30:35 is this something about taking stl things as function arguments and signature matching? 23:32:06 <|amethyst> It looks like 4.8's std::function doesn't implicitly convert from std::_Mem_fn ? 23:33:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:33:29 <|amethyst> I can't make the filter type an extra template parameter, because then you wouldn't be able to default it 23:33:44 <|amethyst> s/default it/default the filter parameter/ 23:36:07 -!- mtyson has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:40:37 -!- beanscad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:40:42 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:27 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:44:05 -!- Siveran has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:44:24 i need a project; my plate is empty right now 23:44:45 |amethyst: gammafunk: feed meh! 23:44:54 win csdc 23:45:02 eh? 23:45:09 your project 23:45:15 is to win csdc4 23:45:24 how do i do that 23:45:38 ??csdc 23:45:38 csdc[1/4]: Crawl Sudden Death Challenges. Season 4 announcement thread: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17860. Channel: ##csdc 23:45:52 dude, i suck at crawl 23:46:14 project 0.5: get good at crawl 23:48:53 is amalloy trying to psyche himself up 23:49:11 Oh I see, nm 23:49:17 haha 23:49:22 an amusing interpretation 23:49:38 It kind of looked like you were trying to get HYPED 23:49:41 right 23:49:52 but i have no need! 23:49:55 $csdc 23:50:00 oh 23:50:03 !csdc 23:50:06 1 wins for csdc4 wk1: amalloy || Lasty: L23 NaWz^Dith | Kramin: L19 NaWz^Ru | HenryFlower: L17 NaWz^Veh | greedo: L16 NaWz^Ru | FishServ: L16 NaWz^Yred | wheals: L15 NaWz^Lucy | Mibe: L14 NaWz^Zin | belag: L14 NaWz^Ely | Sandman25: L12 NaWz^Yred | ldf: L8 NaWz^Veh | ldf: L1 NaWz^ 23:50:14 da first 23:50:22 aren't signups closed now? 23:50:41 allegedly. but he will take people all week 23:51:00 I hope the NaWz is in honor of Sapher 23:51:26 yeah, was just reading the post; says they're closed 23:51:29 He joins my twitch chat when I stream most times as imsapher, which is funny 23:51:41 not that it matters. i suck at crawl. 23:52:14 wow wheals is playing, and he's not even dead yet 23:52:28 amalloy: i've been on project 0.5 for like ten years 23:52:28 !kw csdc4 23:52:29 No keyword 'csdc4' 23:52:31 !kw csdc 23:52:32 No keyword 'csdc' 23:52:34 !lg wheals nawz 23:52:35 2. wheals the Sneak (L2 NaWz), slain by an ooze on D:1 on 2015-10-07 13:15:10, with 14 points after 560 turns and 0:02:14. 23:52:39 !lg wheals nawz -2 23:52:41 1/2. wheals the Sneak (L3 NaWz), quit the game on D:2 on 2014-05-26 19:38:35, with 23 points after 1484 turns and 0:02:27. 23:52:56 !nick csdc4 23:52:57 Mapping csdc4 => miek kramin mgdark bughunter math4jedi tasonir ventricule hypertraveller wizzzargh witidek tedric chequers vible psymar ldf wheals sandman25 moanerette henryflower category cerealjynx jampaladin mopl emikaela magipi sanka shummie loynis belag teshialair doesnt greedo mrplanck shnurlf mibe lasty drke fishserv dpeg amalloy twist ccs strat asdu walrusking jefus igxfl ldierk seigurt g... 23:53:08 yeah I just wanted to get only games that qualify 23:53:14 not sure if there's a good filter for it 23:53:15 gfunk when do you stream 23:53:35 !kw wk1 23:53:35 Keyword: wk1 => csdc4wk1 23:53:36 !kw csdc4wk1 23:53:37 Keyword: csdc4wk1 => NaWz cv>0.16 start>20151005 ((end<20151019||!ktyp)) 23:53:48 well I've only done a couple weeks now, but in the evenings say 8-10pm CT, often every other day; just did yesterday 23:53:58 amalloy: oh thanks 23:54:03 whats your twitch 23:54:06 ??gammafunk 23:54:07 gammafunk[1/4]: Crawl dev. See {gammafunkrc} and http://twitch.tv/gammafunk 23:54:10 ill try to catch your stream 23:54:14 would appreciate it 23:54:16 i keep meaning to stream or record a game 23:54:33 hey guys, do ghosts no longer walk in to conjured flame? 23:54:36 it's fun because you get to talk at people and they can't interrupt you save with their pathetic typing 23:54:37 but i don't really play with enough focus that i think it would make good video. i am always tabbing out to check something or whatever 23:54:40 that depends on the ghost 23:54:41 you're like a god 23:54:44 same as any other monster 23:55:02 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-2001-g68761ec: Fix compilation on g++ 4.7 and 4.8. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/68761ecbe1e4 23:55:02 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-2002-g92c7e20: Replace %lf with %f. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/92c7e20b241b 23:55:05 <|amethyst> hm 23:55:13 <|amethyst> maybe we should have travis use 4.7, not 4.8 23:55:16 if the ghost feels it's too wimpy it won't walk into it 23:55:28 I was wondering about testing earlier gcc, but the combinatorics on that... 23:55:54 I guess it's better to use a gcc that servers use? 23:55:58 <|amethyst> well 23:56:01 not sure how consistent we are across servers 23:56:09 <|amethyst> I was thinking it should be the oldest version we claim to support 23:56:29 <|amethyst> so we know if we introduced a dependency on a feature added in 4.8 (for example) 23:56:40 the monster walking into cloud logic was changed recently 23:56:44 Are version-specific compilation problems generally such that an earlier version is more likely to have a problem? 23:56:48 I guess that would be the case 23:57:35 Yeah I never did carefully go through that cloud AI commit 23:57:37 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/70 23:57:47 it looks like intelligent monsters want 2x as much hp now 23:57:51 before walking into a cloud