00:00:02 in that vault in particular, that is 00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:30 in that vault it will mean every fight with on is lure it all the way back, whereas now you have a reasonable choice 00:00:36 s/on/one/ 00:00:58 works better with orb spiders, since there's more random cover in most spider layouts 00:01:14 can you really lure oofs that effectively given they're so fast? 00:01:24 you just haste yourself 00:01:42 I mean even if you're not hasted, it will track you 00:01:55 I guess if you have plenty of consumables -- which isn't htat unusual 00:02:05 but you need to kill it for reasonable safety 00:02:12 so even if you're slower you'll just lure it back 00:03:02 but extended monsters with maintain are more possible, yeah, it's just wise to think of the layout in which they're fought 00:03:09 so they don't have maximum annoyance factor 00:03:23 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:29 maybe it would work better if oofs were just giant mutating eyes 00:03:52 working as a way to make the orb run more unpredictable ("what unwanted muts did you get?") 00:04:06 I think that's just a wretched star more or less? 00:04:41 orb spiders have this weird projectile you can often (some say always) dodge 00:04:55 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:05:06 so there's this thing where temporary cover is nice to take, maintain playing into that 00:05:23 yeah better equivalent 00:05:35 but not sure what all |amethyst was thinking when he made them :) 00:05:52 probably ":cyc:" 00:05:59 I knew it... 00:06:07 <|amethyst> nah, that was before I was polluted by Tavern 00:06:18 takes 90mins to compile crawl with coverity on my machine 00:06:31 should start doing my dev on a google compute box 00:06:55 <|amethyst> the idea was that IOOD sucks when the monster is adjacent 00:07:03 <|amethyst> and something that fast will become adjacent quickly 00:07:08 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:07:54 <|amethyst> the wall thing was a nice bonus 00:08:08 <|amethyst> blowing up other spiders was foreseeable :) 00:08:50 "can't wait till players start summoning friendly versions of these that blow up their other summons! yesssss" 00:09:00 <|amethyst> the cantrip (and later an actual charge) was to slow down the casting enough that they don't collide orbs and blow themselves up 00:09:31 <|amethyst> gammafunk: s/their other summons/the player/ 00:09:53 yeah I was thinking that friendly orbs can't hit the player, but then I realized that isn't true 00:11:07 <|amethyst> !lg * kaux~~orb_of_destr s=killer 00:11:08 2831 games for * (kaux~~orb_of_destr): 1409x an orb spider, 345x Boris, 237x an ancient lich, 183x a lich, 166x Lamia, 52x you, 52x a conjurer statue, 41x, 35x orb spider, 26x a spellforged servitor, 13x ancient lich, 11x an orb spider (shapeshifter), 9x lich, 5x a statue, 4x an antique lich, 3x Porost's ghost, 3x ereinion's ghost, 3x Ninvader's ghost, 2x Bane13's ghost, 2x Xenophilius' ghost, 2x ... 00:11:39 <|amethyst> "you" is tied with conjurer statue :) 00:11:44 <|amethyst> !lg * kaux~~orb_of_destr killer= 00:11:50 41. tomatochips the Frost Mage (L16 NaIE of Vehumet), killed by miscasting Orb of Destruction on D:14 on 2015-09-20 02:49:54, with 97393 points after 32275 turns and 2:12:30. 00:12:27 <|amethyst> but more people have died from successfully casting IOOD than from miscasting it 00:12:33 oh, is you used extensively for killer? 00:12:38 !lg * killer=you s=ckaux 00:12:39 3062 games for * (killer=you): 1352x flame, 499x noxious fumes, 423x freezing vapour, 177x disintegration bolt, 155x by static electricity, 128x poison gas, 97x toxic radiance, 69x steam, 50x, 34x orb of destruction, 23x sting, 18x wavering orb of destruction, 13x curare-tipped needle, 8x thunder, 5x dark miasma, 4x splash of poison, 3x foul pestilence, 2x you, fire, by Lee's Rapid Deconstruction 00:12:42 !lg * kaux~~orb_of killer=you tomb 00:12:43 1. domo the Archmage (L27 DECj of Vehumet), blew themself up on Tomb:1 (tomb_1) on 2013-05-31 22:55:03, with 614666 points after 132971 turns and 16:33:25. 00:12:52 best iood tv 00:13:04 !lg . killer=you s=ckaux 00:13:04 8 games for gammafunk (killer=you): 4x freezing vapour, 3x disintegration bolt, wavering orb of destruction 00:13:12 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=you s=ckaux 00:13:13 14 games for |amethyst (killer=you): 10x freezing vapour, poison gas, by static electricity, flame, noxious fumes 00:13:30 I guess hostile summons don't count; it's a direct conjuration of some kind 00:13:33 !lg . killer=you s=ckaux 00:13:34 No games for amalloy (killer=you). 00:13:49 that's a surprise 00:13:53 probably miscasts as well 00:13:59 <|amethyst> !lg . ckiller=you s=ckaux 00:14:00 14 games for |amethyst (ckiller=you): 10x freezing vapour, poison gas, by static electricity, flame, noxious fumes 00:14:04 what would a hostile makh summon show as? 00:14:06 !lg . killer=you ckaux=freezing_vapour 00:14:07 4. gammafunk the Caller (L6 HESu), engulfed by their own freezing vapour on D:6 on 2014-08-04 02:59:10, with 273 points after 3309 turns and 0:27:42. 00:14:11 wondering how many people my change has killed 00:14:13 !lg . killer=you ckaux=freezing_vapour s=milestone 00:14:14 Unknown field: milestone 00:14:18 <|amethyst> !lg . kpath~~player 00:14:19 35. neil the Caller (L3 MfSu of Elyvilon), slain by a crimson imp (summoned by the player character) on D:2 (ecumenical_altar_1) on 2015-09-26 14:05:36, with 23 points after 1301 turns and 0:02:02. 00:14:19 !lg . killer=you ckaux=freezing_vapour -2 00:14:20 3/4. gammafunk the Caller (L7 HESu), engulfed by their own freezing vapour on D:6 on 2014-07-18 08:57:23, with 584 points after 2884 turns and 0:18:57. 00:14:27 i'm sure some "friendly" ball lightning have killed me, at least 00:14:41 good gods can summon imp? 00:14:42 ah, kpath! 00:14:49 <|amethyst> !lg . kpath~~player s=killer,ikiller,kaux,ckaux,ktyp 00:14:50 35 games for |amethyst (kpath~~player): 4x a vapour (4x the player character (4x bolt of lightning (4x bolt of lightning (4x beam)))), 2x a killer bee (2x the player character (((mon)), exploding inner flame (exploding inner flame (beam)))), a crimson imp (the player character (((mon)))), a quasit (the player character (exploding inner flame (exploding inner flame (beam)))), a kobold (the player c... 00:14:50 never knew about this 00:14:56 !lg * kpath~~mak 00:14:57 192. shacamin the Shield-Bearer (L8 MiFi of Qazlal), mangled by a hellwing (created by the fury of Makhleb) on D:7 on 2015-09-24 13:59:04, with 1859 points after 6320 turns and 0:34:33. 00:15:01 <|amethyst> !lg . kpath~~player x=killer,ikiller,kaux,ckaux,ktyp 00:15:02 35. [killer=a crimson imp;ikiller=the player character;kaux=;ckaux=;ktyp=mon] neil the Caller (L3 MfSu of Elyvilon), slain by a crimson imp (summoned by the player character) on D:2 (ecumenical_altar_1) on 2015-09-26 14:05:36, with 23 points after 1301 turns and 0:02:02. 00:15:15 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:15:16 !lg * kpath~~fury_of_makhleb week 00:15:16 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=the_player_character s=ktyp 00:15:17 2. shacamin the Shield-Bearer (L8 MiFi of Qazlal), mangled by a hellwing (created by the fury of Makhleb) on D:7 on 2015-09-24 13:59:04, with 1859 points after 6320 turns and 0:34:33. 00:15:18 11417 games for * (ikiller=the_player_character): 5736x beam, 5240x mon, 303x spore, 52x disintegration, 44x acid, 32x cloud, 5x rolling, 3x water, 2x collision 00:15:21 !lg * kpath~~fury_of_makhleb week -2 00:15:23 1/2. klettuce the Ducker (L3 HETm), slain by an orange demon (created by the fury of Makhleb) on D:2 on 2015-09-23 15:58:04, with 77 points after 1936 turns and 0:13:39. 00:15:25 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=the_player_character s=killer 00:15:25 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:15:26 11417 games for * (ikiller=the_player_character): 432x a vapour, 413x an orc, 363x an adder, 349x an Executioner, 297x a goblin, 274x a hobgoblin, 263x a smoke demon, 244x a white imp, 231x a balrug, 221x a jackal, 217x ball lightning, 217x a kobold, 198x an ogre, 195x a vampire mosquito, 175x an air elemental, 161x a bat, 153x a gnoll, 141x an orc wizard, 136x a rat, 135x a ynoxinul, 126x a blizz... 00:15:46 <|amethyst> ♥ nemelex 00:15:49 oh, so ikiller, hrm, does ikiller=you also work? 00:15:54 !lg . ikiller=you 00:15:55 8. gammafunk the Caller (L6 HESu), engulfed by their own freezing vapour on D:6 on 2014-08-04 02:59:10, with 273 points after 3309 turns and 0:27:42. 00:15:59 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=you s=killer 00:16:00 3064 games for * (ikiller=you): 3062x you, a spatial vortex, a small abomination 00:16:09 ha 00:16:19 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=you killer=a_spatial_vortex 00:16:20 1. ew the Ruffian (L8 TrCK of Xom), mangled by a spatial vortex (summoned by you) on D:5 on 2015-03-24 14:05:05, with 1416 points after 4189 turns and 0:00:35. 00:16:27 <|amethyst> hmm 00:16:38 <|amethyst> wonder why that one says "you" instead of "the player character" 00:16:38 so ikiller=you is different from ikiller=the_player_character 00:16:45 <|amethyst> it seems 00:16:58 <|amethyst> probably sequell could be taught to merge those in its db 00:17:01 !lg . ikiller=the_player_character s=killer 00:17:02 20 games for gammafunk (ikiller=the_player_character): 2x a Hell Sentinel, 2x an ice beast, 2x an Executioner, a cacodemon, an Ice Fiend, a manticore, an adder, an orc zombie, a Brimstone Fiend, a sun demon, a sphinx, a centaur, a ball python, a hound, a white imp, a kobold, a tentacled monstrosity 00:17:05 thre we go 00:17:14 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:17:22 yeah ikiller=you is way easier to type 00:17:24 <|amethyst> !lg . ikiller=the_player_character s=cikiller 00:17:25 35 games for |amethyst (ikiller=the_player_character): 35x the player character 00:17:36 <|amethyst> !lg . ikiller=you s=cikiller 00:17:37 14 games for |amethyst (ikiller=you): 14x you 00:17:43 "/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/../include/c++/v1/__config", line 234: error #65: 00:17:46 expected a ";" 00:17:49 typedef __char16_t char16_t; 00:17:51 ^ 00:17:53 help please what does this mean 00:18:20 !kw you 00:18:21 No keyword 'you' 00:18:31 that line is within a #if __cplusplus < 201103L define 00:18:49 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 00:19:07 -!- foophykins has quit [Client Quit] 00:19:24 <|amethyst> in what? 00:19:49 <|amethyst> if you compile with -std=c++11 that line won't be compiled :) 00:20:52 <|amethyst> the __char16_t thing would be reserved for implementation, so maybe that compat code is for the wrong compiler 00:20:57 !lg . ikiller=you s=killer 00:20:58 8 games for gammafunk (ikiller=you): 8x you 00:21:19 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=you s=killer 00:21:20 3064 games for * (ikiller=you): 3062x you, a spatial vortex, a small abomination 00:21:24 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=you s=killer,cv 00:21:25 3064 games for * (ikiller=you): 3062x you (387x 0.15-a, 359x 0.15, 285x 0.10, 257x 0.9, 234x 0.14-a, 229x 0.13-a, 202x 0.16-a, 192x 0.11, 152x 0.8, 120x 0.12-a, 91x 0.13, 90x 0.14, 89x 0.17-a, 87x 0.11-a, 65x 0.9-a, 64x 0.10-a, 59x 0.12, 49x 0.8-a, 47x 0.16, 3x 0.7, 0.7-a), a small abomination (0.17-a), a spatial vortex (0.16) 00:22:05 so like make -j3 CFLAGS="-std=c++1" ? 00:22:13 nope 00:22:25 <|amethyst> someone should track down and fix whatever made killer be "you" for that small abom and spatial vortex 00:23:37 -!- Stendhal is now known as Zilis 00:24:25 !lg * killer!=you ikiller=you 00:24:27 2. Tern the Spry (L19 OpWn of Fedhas), slain by a small abomination (summoned by you) on Abyss:4 on 2015-06-14 07:39:11, with 264306 points after 56137 turns and 2:20:43. 00:24:41 !lg * killer!=you ikiller=you 1 00:24:42 1/2. ew the Ruffian (L8 TrCK of Xom), mangled by a spatial vortex (summoned by you) on D:5 on 2015-03-24 14:05:05, with 1416 points after 4189 turns and 0:00:35. 00:25:28 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:25:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26:01 !lg * killer!=you ikiller=you -log 00:26:02 2. Tern, XL19 OpWn, T:56137: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Tern/morgue-Tern-20150614-073911.txt 00:26:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:35 !lg * killer!=you ikiller=you -log 1 00:26:36 1/2. ew, XL8 TrCK, T:4189: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.16/ew/morgue-ew-20150324-140505.txt 00:27:28 in both cases there was a "something" lurking 00:27:29 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1939-ga475588 (34) 00:30:23 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:26 boggard was summoned, confused, ????, bug happened 00:31:37 (this is speculation to be clear) 00:35:56 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:35:59 -!- buliwyf has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:41:01 <|amethyst> "Paralysed by you for 3 turns" 00:41:46 it was a potion 00:41:48 i think 00:41:57 <|amethyst> !lg * killer!=you ikiller=you -tv 00:41:58 it's hard to tell 00:41:58 2. Tern, XL19 OpWn, T:56137 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:42:47 <|amethyst> chaos cloud in both games 00:42:58 oh, guess he had no un-IDed pots 00:43:20 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:15 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:24 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:03:22 "xom.cc", line 2182: warning #135: class "std::__1::vector std::__1::allocator>" has no member "emplace_back" 01:03:25 messages.emplace_back("The lava spits out sparks!"); 01:03:27 ^ 01:03:31 is this another c++11 thing? 01:04:38 quick glance at google suggests so 01:04:44 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:19 <|amethyst> yes 01:06:31 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:29 but it seems to be using -std=c++11 01:08:30 [24735] COMPILING: /Users/aj/crawl/cov-analysis-macosx-7.7.0/bin/cov-translate g++ -arch x86_64 -isysroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk -mmacosx-version-min=10.11 -std=c++11 -O2 -pipe -Wall -Wformat-security -Wundef -Wno-array-bounds -Wno-format-zero-length -Wmissing-declarations -Wredundant-decls -Wno-parentheses -Wwrite-strings -Wshadow -pedanti 01:09:59 -!- TMTurtle__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:10:15 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:27 -!- Pacra__ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:50 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1939-ga475588 (34) 01:16:24 might try this on linux 01:16:29 chequers: gcc apparently didn't implement emplace_back until 4.8 01:16:58 /Users/aj/crawl/cov-analysis-macosx-7.7.0/bin/cov-translate g++ -v 01:16:58 and see what ya got 01:18:49 <|amethyst> 4.7 should have it 01:18:59 <|amethyst> maybe not 4.7.0 01:19:42 https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=44436#c5 01:20:34 target milestone 4.8.0 01:22:37 4.7.2 looks like it still didn't have it 01:22:38 <|amethyst> that's for map, multimap, etc 01:22:48 <|amethyst> this is a vector 01:23:44 well, i can't find anything better than that, and it does say "etc" 01:24:03 <|amethyst> though it's good to know we can't use emplace on a map unless we upgrade some servers 01:24:10 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:18 i am by no means a c++ expert 01:24:27 <|amethyst> well, CSZO has 4.7.2, so if we couldn't build with that, we'd know about it 01:24:51 <|amethyst> at least, once someone noticed it wasn't updating 01:24:55 <|amethyst> might take a few days :) 01:24:57 so >8) 01:26:00 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:33 <|amethyst> looking at the commits that resolved the bug, I think "etc" is std::set and std::unordered_* 01:27:02 yah, i dug in and saw that, too 01:27:11 so i dunno 01:27:20 maybe chequers is just bad at things 01:27:24 it's nothing to be ashamed of 01:27:55 many people have lived full, healthy lives despite being bad at things 01:28:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:28:44 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:28:45 <|amethyst> hm, https://communities.coverity.com/docs/DOC-1571 claims that coverity supports C++11 as of 7.0 01:28:58 he's using 7.7 01:29:17 so 01:29:18 yeah 01:29:21 bad at things 01:29:26 <|amethyst> I wonder if coverity is using the wrong C++ standard library for some reason 01:30:03 stick an explicit -L on that commandline, perhaps 01:30:05 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:10 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:32:16 or, no that was in compile 01:32:21 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:32:46 <|amethyst> -I, but -isysroot should do that 01:32:49 yeah 01:33:02 but if they're using their own library 01:33:05 <|amethyst> and I would expect MacOSX10.11.sdk would be a fairly new libc, but I don't know macs 01:33:18 to be able to claim c++11 support since 7.0 01:33:31 is 10.11 recent? 01:33:50 <|amethyst> 10.11 isn't out yet 01:33:59 <|amethyst> comes out tomorrow? 01:34:00 -!- hope1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:34:04 |amethyst: hypractvChipmunk: this is clang pretending to be gcc 01:34:15 <|amethyst> what version of clang? 01:34:21 7.0.0 01:34:24 <|amethyst> and, more importantly, the C library 01:34:38 <|amethyst> err, clang is still in 3.x 01:34:50 just to sorry, $ g++ --version 01:34:50 Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1 01:34:53 Apple LLVM version 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.72) 01:35:21 <|amethyst> oh right 01:35:25 -!- jjjjj is now known as Guest40704 01:35:26 um 01:35:28 <|amethyst> apple has their own clang version numbers 01:35:33 gxx-include-dir 4.2.1? 01:35:38 <|amethyst> oh 01:35:39 <|amethyst> yeah 01:35:42 <|amethyst> that looks bad :) 01:35:52 hrmm 01:36:03 I wonder how crawl normally manages to compile then 01:36:28 <|amethyst> maybe coverity doesn't know about -isysroot 01:36:38 is the code ifdef'ed ? 01:36:40 <|amethyst> whereas g++ itself does 01:37:06 <|amethyst> if you change the -isysroot stuff to -I does coverity work? 01:37:15 if you ran g++ directly, perhaps it doesn't claim to be c++11 capable 01:37:16 <|amethyst> in the Makefile 01:37:33 ls /usr/include/c++ 01:37:53 I'll have to recompile to tell you for sure which will take 90mins 01:37:58 <|amethyst> hypractvChipmunk: crawl won't compile without C++11 01:38:07 <|amethyst> so his normal g++ build works 01:38:09 ah, so not ifdefed 01:38:19 update CC/CXX and DPCC/DEPCXX? 01:38:35 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:38:36 CXXFLAGS 01:38:49 ...unless crawl is weird again 01:38:51 <|amethyst> chequers: yes 01:39:08 <|amethyst> yeah, our build system is.... 01:39:12 <|amethyst> "bespoke" 01:39:16 <|amethyst> "unique" 01:39:19 artisan 01:39:20 why am i not surprised 01:39:22 lol 01:39:23 <|amethyst> "special" 01:40:07 seeing a lot of this error: clang: warning: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk: 'linker' input unused 01:40:13 nah the build exploded 01:40:26 <|amethyst> oh 01:40:30 ld: can't map file, errno=22 file '/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk' for architecture x86_64 01:40:33 clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) 01:40:43 if you followed |amethyst's advice directly it's gonna fail 01:40:50 because he didn't specify a directory after -I 01:41:11 so change -isysroot to -I/path/to/sysroot ? 01:41:18 presumably you put a directory with the correct C++ headers 01:41:25 <|amethyst> oh 01:41:31 yeah or if there's something better in that /usr/include/c++ directory 01:41:36 <|amethyst> -I can't have a space after it 01:41:47 <|amethyst> change -isysroot $(SDKROOT) to -I$(SDKROOT) 01:42:28 ah, there was implied context 01:42:33 maybe i should open the makefile myself >8) 01:42:49 i dunno, though...seems like an awful lot of effort 01:42:53 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:43:02 <|amethyst> well, static analysis is good 01:43:05 al I'm saying is, coverity better give me a bunch of little issues to fix so I can impress everyone with my coding skills 01:43:16 <|amethyst> clang-analyzer is also nice 01:43:24 yeah, that's unlikely to happen 01:43:28 I tried that one already and it didn't seem to pick anything up 01:43:56 <|amethyst> I got several warnings with default flags, some of which I fixed 01:44:02 it probably took one look at the code and said, "NOPE" 01:44:09 <|amethyst> heh 01:44:42 <|amethyst> (would be nice to replace most of checkwhite/unbrace with clang-format some day) 01:44:53 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:47:14 compiling this time, but I am not super familiar with cov and it's emitting a bunch of "errors", which I'm not sure if they're analysis errors or "problems we detected" 01:47:23 i use it as my 'indent' command in vim for C coding 01:47:27 it's lovely 01:48:21 i know you wouldn't get a bunch of nice little issues to fix >8) 01:48:43 i rather expect you're going to get buried under a mountain of little issues 01:49:23 the default options for tools like that usually shade towards "sadistic" 01:54:23 <|amethyst> doing another scan-build run, this one with a lot of the alpha checkers enabled 01:54:31 -!- eb has quit [] 01:54:31 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:36 <|amethyst> this time I'll try to remember to post the output somewhere 01:54:57 host the pretty html output 01:55:05 <|amethyst> yeah 01:55:08 so we can be all clicky and woo 01:55:19 <|amethyst> we should probably get some of our build infrastructure to do that 01:55:29 <|amethyst> probably it takes too long to want to give to travis 01:55:30 jenkins supports coverity now, that's my secret goal 01:55:44 *travis. It can always be a separate build plan 01:55:59 <|amethyst> I guess that's true 01:57:23 !lm dip 01:57:24 514. [2015-09-29 05:38:02] Dip the Grappler (L11 TrMo of Jiyva) became a worshipper of Jiyva on turn 7081. (Lair:7) 01:57:27 !lm yog 01:57:28 12. [2015-09-29 05:49:14] Yog the Cudgeler (L4 MiBe of Trog) killed Jessica on turn 1781. (D:2) 01:57:47 oops 01:59:47 -!- hope1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:54 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:02:36 <|amethyst> err, the dead code checker seems to be too alpha 02:02:55 <|amethyst> some of these don't even make sense, and there's no explanation 02:03:07 kinda like the code itself! 02:03:25 <|amethyst> oh 02:03:45 <|amethyst> in some of the cases, it's debug vs non-debug 02:03:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:03:52 <|amethyst> oh hey 02:03:56 <|amethyst> I made clang crash :) 02:04:03 nice! 02:04:10 congrats 02:04:39 i've only managed that like once or twice, myself 02:04:50 <|amethyst> well, I am using a bunch of alpha checkers 02:05:13 <|amethyst> and runCheckersOnASTDecl is on the stack, so I'm going to blame them 02:05:30 <|amethyst> trying again without the dead-code checker 02:05:41 <|amethyst> I did see a virtual-in-constructor warning 02:06:47 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 02:07:07 <|amethyst> oh, and I guess that one isn't a problem currently 02:07:10 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:26 <|amethyst> I guess could mark GodMenuEntry as final 02:13:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:14:00 [WARNING] 6 C/C++ compilation units (1%) are ready for analysis 02:14:06 i'm trying on linux 02:15:10 <|amethyst> nope, still crashed on initfile.cc 02:15:11 <|amethyst> oh 02:15:18 <|amethyst> I bet it's that huge if-else chain 02:22:30 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:23:49 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:33 lol 02:30:41 that's the code i was talking about earlier 02:30:49 it's a miracle that thing works 02:31:21 <|amethyst> well, I'm assuming you saw 02:31:26 <|amethyst> #ifndef TARGET_COMPILER_VC // MSVC has a limit on how many if/else if can be chained together. else 02:31:29 <|amethyst> #endif 02:31:34 <|amethyst> err, mispasted but 02:31:50 lol 02:33:31 <|amethyst> (who knows whether that's relevant for any recent versions of MSVC though; that comment has been around for a long long time 02:33:43 <|amethyst> %git 8a737d409 02:33:44 07pauldubois02 * 0.4-a0-1131-g8a737d4: Another batch of msvc compile fixes. Added wrapper implementation for opendir/readdir Other functions left stubbed out. It's a shame that crawl's "direct.h" conflicts with . Fixed up use of AppHdr.h in a couple places (it must be included first); changed project to use precompiled headers. 10(8 years ago, 18 files, 270+ 72-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a737d409cea 02:33:55 worth keeping for amusement foctor alone 02:34:22 <|amethyst> pretty sure PF posted it to @crawlcode at some point 02:34:27 <|amethyst> :) 02:36:54 -!- Pacra__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:38:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:38:18 that 'for (j = 0; j < 2; ++j) ... a = confl[j]; b = confl[1-j];' was pretty special 02:39:09 especially when only one is used past the very next line 02:41:30 funny part was that i replaced it all, then had to touch up another function that had to do essentially the same both-ways check, and it was done there exactly the way I did it 02:41:56 <|amethyst> yeah, the other function was written by a mere mortal 02:42:59 * hypractvChipmunk chuckles. 02:43:04 <|amethyst> (okay, PF may or may not be a mere mortal) 02:43:25 <|amethyst> but definitely someone more attuned to readability than some 02:48:00 readability is /so/ important in open source projects 02:48:14 i mean, it's super-important in any codebase 02:49:01 but super-duper important in an project like this with a rolling development team and all 02:50:30 like, I can't even imagine how many potential contributors the project has missed out on because of stuff like that 02:53:12 <|amethyst> http://s-z.org/crawl-analyze-tiles-0.17-a0-1939-ga475588/ SDL tiles build---I screwed up and did DEBUG=y instead of FULLDEBUG=y, time for bed 02:54:42 >8) 02:54:45 pretttty 02:54:55 have a good night 02:55:10 i oughta be out, too 02:55:11 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:55:13 -!- hypractvChipmunk is now known as hC|zzz 02:55:17 <|amethyst> starting another of WEBTILES=y profile (so fulldebug but with optimisation) 02:55:25 <|amethyst> hopefully I remember to post that one tomorrow 02:55:30 <|amethyst> night 02:56:11 pretty clean, really 02:56:12 nn 02:58:52 -!- Rivotril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:59:17 -!- knu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:19 -!- PsyMar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:34 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:10:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:11:30 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:13:32 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:04 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1939-ga475588 (34) 03:22:32 -!- Polom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:24:45 gammafunk: can you make the dcss-website repo not a fork of mine? So just delete the repo and upload it as if from scratch 03:25:07 hrm, why does that matter? 03:25:13 I mean it is a fork of your repo 03:25:41 the official repo should be under crawl name, I think 03:26:38 actually, maybe I can delete my repo and then fork 03:27:23 nope dang, the fork origin just changed 03:27:51 heh 03:28:11 way to go repo gestapo!!!!! 03:28:27 I'll reuploaded it a bit later 03:28:33 kewl 03:28:36 I just didn't want to really break the remotes 03:28:40 I have on cdo and on my machine 03:28:43 maybe it won't though 03:28:52 well not the remotes, but the branches 03:28:56 probably it will break those 03:29:03 they should survive untouched, I just did the equivalent when I recreated my repo 03:29:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:29:17 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:29:45 But I don't think it's really wrong to have forked repos in crawl in principle 03:29:55 Guess there could be a reason for it somewhere 03:30:14 not having said forks, since it could generate weird things on github 03:31:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:37:49 mostly I was thinking mine being a fork of crawl org's one makes the crawl one more obviously official 03:38:36 -!- Wolfechu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:41:41 !messages 03:41:41 No messages for TZer0. 03:43:00 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:43:35 -!- siepu_ has quit [Client Quit] 03:45:07 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:51:43 1tell TZer0 The server is melting! 03:56:34 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:56:49 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20:25 !messages 04:20:26 No messages for TZer0. 04:20:36 oh you 04:20:38 you did 1tell 04:24:56 haha, did that to prevent you from having to use !messages 04:25:01 obviously that failed 04:25:02 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:26:46 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:26 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:36:39 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 04:39:20 -!- Booooo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:53:41 gammafunk: yeah, didn't see that it was a 1.. sort of assumed it was a ! 04:55:26 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:02:40 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:04:32 -!- Monkaria has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:18:22 -!- Gajini has quit [Client Quit] 05:27:43 -!- Gajini has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:46 I have been enjoying this game and would like to contribute to it. Any advice on how to start? Thanks 05:35:53 Hey. Depends on what area(s) you are interested in. There is coding, graphics, vaults etc. 05:37:27 I'm intersted in coding, documentation and level designs. 05:42:13 -!- Gajini has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:42:13 Oh 05:42:17 I'm too slow! 05:43:05 -!- Gajini has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:30 -!- Gajini has quit [Client Quit] 05:44:45 :o 05:46:54 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:41 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:49:05 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 05:50:03 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02:17 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: This is not a desk. It is not being flipped.] 06:02:37 'There's a lethal amount of poison in your blood' shown incorrectly 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9980 by teukkam 06:03:39 -!- teukkam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:10:22 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:13:53 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:18:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:19:18 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:23:01 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:30:23 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:47:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:29 -!- PKrockin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:50:01 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:58:44 Fedora installation instructions not up to date 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9981 by gajini 06:58:44 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:58:54 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:01 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:57 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:01:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:07 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:05:19 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13:16 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:15:20 03Medar02 07* 0.17-a0-1940-g9def0bc: Fix automatic chat scrolling in Chrome when zoomed in. (#9867) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9def0bc6efbd 07:15:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:17:05 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23:59 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:29:16 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38:55 nice, was meaning to fix taht at some point 07:39:38 ??test 07:39:59 !!test passed 07:40:16 ??test 07:40:36 test[1/42]: blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh 07:40:36 test[1/42]: blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh 07:40:40 yeah... 07:42:20 -!- bencryption has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:50 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:51:53 -!- ololoev is now known as ruplayers 07:52:04 -!- ruplayers has quit [Client Quit] 07:54:56 -!- easttuth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:57:01 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:57:26 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:25 The build has errored. (master - 9def0bc #3270 : Pekka Lampila): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/82717929 08:00:25 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 08:00:25 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:01:18 Resprites for Centaur Player Dolls 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9982 by bcadren 08:01:44 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:06:25 -!- hope1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:11:37 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:27:29 Should have skipped ci 08:31:44 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:34:08 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:35:35 -!- hope1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:36:23 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:42:47 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:48:25 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:49:49 -!- Zilis has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:51:02 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:55:45 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:05 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:02:22 Alipheese (L17 NaFi) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster deep elf summoner failed to pathfind to (40,26) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 09:08:13 -!- sanka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:14:38 -!- gammafunk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:04 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:29:05 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:34:36 -!- hope1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:34:55 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:42:18 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45:27 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 09:50:47 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:50:48 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:55:12 -!- andrewhl has quit [Client Quit] 09:55:23 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:56:22 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:02 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:06:59 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:14:29 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:17:15 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:24:33 -!- Doesnt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:24:48 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:26:36 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:47 -!- mintman has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:31:55 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:46:02 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:48:24 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:50:43 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:50:46 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:11 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 11:04:54 Hello. Android version not running. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9983 by Trollnow001 11:06:58 Hello. 11:13:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:15:01 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:17:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:03 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:28:43 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:30:18 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:40:58 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:45:33 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:05 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:05:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:07:26 Medar: lol @ too late 12:07:32 -!- hC|zzz has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:18:53 -!- agentgt has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:21 is the message "This branch contains the demonic rune of Zot." new? 12:19:28 yes 12:19:38 it completely tricked me up though... 12:19:42 it doesn't mean floor does it 12:19:51 probably not no 12:19:57 like I was like oh cool now I don't have to guess which floor has it 12:20:11 yeah I found that out the hard way 12:21:01 you get that message now every time you enter a rune-containing branch 12:21:13 which is kind of silly imo but I guess in a way it makes sense 12:25:48 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:45 holy pand is the coolest floor in the game 12:27:09 I sort of wish there were some more thematic pand levels 12:30:13 03Medar02 07* 0.17-a0-1941-gcc30b76: Fixes to WebTiles when run without dgl_mode. 10(14 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc30b765a1e5 12:32:48 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:37:22 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:37:48 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:07 -!- Mojo_Nixon has quit [Client Quit] 12:38:58 -!- Saka2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:12 -!- Mojo_Nixon has quit [Client Quit] 12:40:34 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:46:25 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:49:11 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:41 -!- soad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:52:46 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:05:47 <|amethyst> Medar: hm, the first change there makes sense to me, but the purpose of the second isn't clear 13:06:58 <|amethyst> Medar: does that mean that, when a player goes to the lobby, their game keeps running? 13:07:13 There is no lobby without DGL mode. 13:07:20 <|amethyst> ? 13:07:41 dgl_mode = False is just running ./crawl 13:08:30 <|amethyst> oh 13:09:00 <|amethyst> I was thinking False was the default, but apparently not 13:09:18 not sure if that mode needs to exist 13:09:20 <|amethyst> that makes sense then 13:09:46 <|amethyst> well, it probably makes sense if you're just using local webtiles for the UI 13:09:57 sure 13:09:59 <|amethyst> I hadn't realised you could get the main menu in webtiles 13:10:30 but if no-one uses it... or more importantly maintains it 13:11:41 <|amethyst> maybe if it had a better name 13:11:47 I made a patch to only send wrapper script messages to the player btw. 13:12:10 can't see a reason why spectators should get those 13:12:19 <|amethyst> oh, so watchers don't see things like 'Do you want to transfer?' 13:12:25 right 13:12:52 <|amethyst> it's sometimes useful when the watcher is the site admin trying to debug "I'm not getting the game screen", but yeah 13:13:05 <|amethyst> usually when that's the problem, watchers don't see the message either 13:13:34 <|amethyst> console watchers still see them I guess 13:13:34 right, and if you join after the message has been sent, it won't be sent to you 13:13:53 even if they are still looking at the dialog 13:14:02 <|amethyst> hm 13:15:02 I was thinking about adding a message for watchers about game client not been sent to player yet 13:15:14 not sure it's worth it though 13:16:17 another thing I wan't to do, is validate the JSON received from the wrapper scripts, and ignore anything invalid 13:16:49 question is, will that break anything that's out there currently 13:19:44 <|amethyst> I wouldn't be surprised if there were some problems there, since generating JSON in a shell script is not such a great way to generate compliant JSON 13:19:53 haha, yeah 13:20:50 guess I could make it warning but still allow at first, and change it to ignore it sometime after next release 13:21:06 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:07 The build passed. 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ZZZzzz…] 14:56:43 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:58:49 -!- melenkurio has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:34 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:58 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:28:59 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:38:05 <|amethyst> FR: those part messages say "Quit: My MacBook has been put to sleep." 15:38:10 <|amethyst> just to make it a little darker 15:38:59 <|amethyst> %git :/moral 15:39:00 07|amethyst02 * 0.11-a0-2832-g354d479: Make quitting less of a moral issue. 10(3 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/354d47989254 15:39:10 "Quit: My MacBook is no longer functioning. Oops." 15:40:23 |amethyst, I'm so going to revert that commit in my local version right *now*. 15:41:37 <|amethyst> I encountered one player who never worshipped gods because that is idolatry 15:43:11 |amethyst, i have so many questions about that 15:43:15 but i'll just enjoy the statement as is 15:43:28 <|amethyst> I would think murder would be worse, but I am no theologian 15:44:09 probably nor is that player 15:44:13 8-) 15:44:28 Im making an entry vault. 15:44:30 <|amethyst> well, they did converse with their spiritual advisor about it 15:44:35 Is there a limit to how big an entry vault can be? 15:44:40 It keeps crashing crawl :( 15:44:44 <|amethyst> so someone at least claimed to be a theologian 15:44:47 oh. hmm. 15:46:01 <|amethyst> badge: if it doesn't have an ORIENT: line, I wouldn't go much over 20x20, maybe smaller 15:46:19 <|amethyst> with an ORIENT: line you could do something comparable to the biggest existing entry vaults 15:46:54 <|amethyst> with ORIENT: encompass you could go up to something like 78x68 15:47:29 <|amethyst> (but probably encompass arrival vaults aren't so great) 15:47:38 Okay thank you. :) 15:48:01 I just find it easier to test vaults if they're entry vaults because I can just start a new character. 15:48:05 Is there an easier way to do it? 15:48:17 I've tried Wizmod, ctrl+r but that needs me to restart crawl too :( 15:48:21 -!- Menos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:49:21 <|amethyst> not that I know of, though you might try a debug build to see exactly why level-generation is failing 15:49:45 <|amethyst> could be disconnected regions in the map, lack of @ exits around the edge (depending on tags), or several other things 15:50:48 Hm okay. Thank you. :D 15:51:29 <|amethyst> (make debug or make FULLDEBUG=y if you need to specify other targets like 'tiles') 15:51:48 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 15:58:42 What does FTILE: .pt89 = floor_dirt mean? 15:58:46 What's the .pt89? 15:59:23 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:59:57 badge: which tile to use for the squares marked ., p, t, 8, or 9 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:29 Oooh. 16:01:41 Makes sense. 16:01:44 Thanks. 16:01:51 Am I okay asking this sort of stuff in this channel btw? 16:01:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:02:19 <|amethyst> yes 16:02:22 -!- domiryuu has quit [Client Quit] 16:02:26 <|amethyst> probably the best place for it 16:02:29 Great. Thank you. :) 16:05:09 Am I able to put monsters in entry vaults? 16:05:35 badge: yes, but if they're in LOS of the exit stair they'll get removed 16:05:54 -!- Saka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:57 <|amethyst> I would use that sparingly though 16:06:15 There's "Adjusted some status lights in 641b22f9" in the comment to a patch — what's the easiest way to find the commit with that ID? 16:06:19 <|amethyst> or, at least, be very mindful of fairness 16:06:24 <|amethyst> %git 641b22f9 16:06:24 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-164-g641b22f: Adjust some status lights 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 1 file, 12+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/641b22f909e8 16:06:24 -!- ldf_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:06:29 Thanks. 16:06:34 <|amethyst> from the command line git show 641b22f9 16:06:54 Is it possible from the browser? 16:07:06 badge: there are a few entry vaults that do place monsters already 16:07:27 -!- Silas is now known as Guest73034 16:07:52 !vault onia_arrival_larder 16:07:53 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arrival/small.des#l2204 16:08:16 <|amethyst> Xenobreeder: I'm not sure if there's a button to search by commit hash, but you could take the URL Cheibriados gave there and replace the commit hash part of it 16:08:17 that one's not a vault i like very much, because it provides a ton of xp for little risk 16:08:30 What's the difference between KMONS and MONS? 16:09:19 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:09:22 badge: have you read https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/levels/syntax.txt yet? it has answers to a lot of this 16:10:05 OOoh 16:10:07 Thank you. :) 16:10:43 <|amethyst> you might start with introduction.txt 16:11:00 <|amethyst> though syntax.txt is perfectly understandable and usable on its own 16:11:14 <|amethyst> there's a whole directory of documentation for level-building :) 16:11:15 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:12:29 |amethyst: incidentally, i wonder if there is any way to make that directory more discoverable somehow. badge didn't know it existed, and when i decided to figure out vaults i did so by just spending a couple hours reading vault definitions and looking for patterns to make sense of things 16:12:46 (ie i also did not know it existed) 16:13:13 Yeah 16:13:13 <|amethyst> other than linking to it in more places 16:13:16 I was just using https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps:introduction#introduction 16:13:35 <|amethyst> I do think the README.md should have more stuff for people wanting to develop crawl 16:13:37 Maybe put it under the bot or something? That's the first place most people would look. 16:13:56 <|amethyst> that page on the wiki is mostly the same thing as the manual, but probably updated less frequently 16:14:00 <|amethyst> ??vaults 16:14:00 vaults[1/1]: Accessed from the main dungeon somewhere between levels 13 and 14. Five levels deep. A large group of guards await on the bottom floor (see {vaults:5}), where you can find several item vaults and a silver rune. There are also ordinary {vault}s. 16:14:03 <|amethyst> ??vault 16:14:03 vault[1/9]: A small pre-designed section of the dungeon. Most of the evil ones can be blamed on dpeg or Lemuel or minmay or evilmike or a demonic alliance of some subset of the four. The guards around branch entrances and special branch ends are examples. See also the {Vaults}. See {special room} for the rectangular rooms with orcs, bees, etc. 16:14:11 <|amethyst> hm 16:14:13 <|amethyst> ??vault[$ 16:14:14 vaultedit[1/2]: Webtiles meets vault making: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm 16:14:41 <|amethyst> !readall vault 16:14:42 A small pre-designed section of the dungeon. Most of the evil ones can be blamed on dpeg or Lemuel or minmay or evilmike or a demonic alliance of some subset of the four. The guards around branch entrances and special branch ends are examples. See also the {Vaults}. See {special room} for the rectangular rooms with orcs, bees, etc. / How to identify vault designers: oklobs=dpeg, fleshy orifices=Mu... 16:14:46 ??vault[syntax 16:14:46 I don't have a page labeled vault[syntax in my learndb. 16:14:59 See 16:15:04 <|amethyst> maybe as vault[2] 16:15:07 That tool's really good, |amethyst 16:15:13 <|amethyst> I haven't tried it 16:15:16 The one I found worked off Java and was only update to 0.12 16:15:25 Well I mean it looks good, I'm about to try it haha 16:16:01 what tool? 16:16:09 <|amethyst> ??vaultedit 16:16:09 vaultedit[1/2]: Webtiles meets vault making: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm 16:16:12 oh 16:16:47 <|amethyst> no idea who wrote it 16:17:23 Hm. 16:17:30 I don't like how it does let me change the floor tiles. 16:17:37 i believe it was mauris 16:17:41 <|amethyst> ah 16:17:49 <|amethyst> yeah, I think you're right 16:17:52 <|amethyst> ??vaultedit[2] 16:17:53 vaultedit[2/2]: hangedman's todos: update shown features, tiles; allow putting in text and seeing the vaultedit load that vault; direct links to vault philosophy guides shown for newcomers; dragging around tiles display, expanding it; hovertooltips??; 16:18:07 <|amethyst> hm 16:19:11 <|amethyst> yeah, nooodl, who is mauris 16:19:23 <|amethyst> 2012-08-26.log:12:18 < nooodl> here, have a new vaultedit: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm 16:24:02 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:58 -!- varmin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29:34 -!- [BNC]Kramin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31:10 -!- Eksell has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:32:02 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:11 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:40:17 Is there a way to find the first commit that didn't go into 0.14? 16:43:12 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:47:50 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:49:12 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:31 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:56:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:59:37 -!- Unmovable has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:42 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06:24 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:07:18 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:16 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:58 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:16:38 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:03 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:31:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:27 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:33:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:34:12 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:31 Xenobreeder: in general, given the nonlinear nature of the commit tree, there's not necessarily any such thing as the "first" one. what are you hoping to find out? 17:44:03 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:44:44 Never mind, I've already found it. I took 0.14.2 and am adding the commits I like, skipping the ones I don't. 17:47:12 this sounds like fun 17:48:56 Well I don't like the way where development went in 0.15 (and some minor changes before that), so the obvious solution is to fix this for myself and some friends that share this point of view. 17:49:19 Yay open source 17:50:32 <|amethyst> Xenobreeder: git log --reverse 0.14..master perhaps 17:50:40 <|amethyst> or origin/stone_soup-0.14..origin/master 17:51:37 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:51:43 I'm just using http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/changes.txt 17:52:49 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:42 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:57:58 Make a fork Xenobreeder :D 17:58:36 I tried, but looks like it's impossible to make a fork of only one release without bringing over all the development. 17:59:01 So I just started a new repo from scratch. 17:59:33 What commits didn't you like? 18:00:00 Lots of them. Removal of item destruction, for example. 18:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:51 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/354d47989254 — this one, heh. 18:01:04 well, Xenobreeder *is* making a fork 18:01:32 I mean I couldn't use the built-in mechanic of github to make it. 18:02:07 <|amethyst> you could, you just have to reset and force push your master branch 18:02:14 if i were trying to do what you're trying to do, the first thing i would do is use github's fork button. i don't really understand what you are doing instead 18:02:46 I'm new to git, haven't used it before, so yeah, I'm probably doing some dumb mistakes. 18:03:05 you certainly don't *have* to use the official fork button, but it seems easiest 18:03:35 Well I just took the 0.14.2 source, put in in a folder and pushed it as a new repo. 18:04:51 How else can I make it so I have only this folder on my repo via the github fork button? 18:05:04 It's not too late to redo if you tell me how. 18:06:00 <|amethyst> might be useful: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9227873/fork-from-a-branch-in-github 18:06:16 <|amethyst> (then you could use that to fork from the stone_soup-0.14 branch) 18:06:54 "have only this folder on my repo" is a goal that i don't really understand at all. if i didn't like 0.15+, i would: fork the repo; check out 0.14.2; create a branch there named Xenobreeder; cherry-pick the various commits i liked 18:07:30 <|amethyst> amalloy: well, if he wants to distribute it to others, I can understand wanting "master" to be his branch and not our master 18:08:05 |amethyst: sure, you could still force-push to master as a last step after my list 18:09:42 I'll check if I can do it this way — new to git, don't really know how to use it. 18:09:45 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1941-gcc30b76 (34) 18:10:17 Thank you for your help. 18:10:25 <|amethyst> amalloy's way is probably simpler, particularly since you there aren't any new 0.14 commits you'd want to automatically track 18:10:58 How to edit monsters? 18:10:59 <|amethyst> but if you fork (whether with github's fork button or with git clone) you'll be able to use git to cherry-pick particular changes 18:11:11 <|amethyst> badge: edit in what way? 18:11:39 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:12:00 I think I won't be able to do it to some changes, because the changes I don't like might change the files, so I have to modify the ones I like to be able to apply them. 18:12:06 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:12:07 Well tbh I'm just generally looking for the file that has monster stats, such as HP, HD, spells etc, in. 18:12:22 <|amethyst> Xenobreeder: yeah, you probably will have to resolve conflicts sometimes 18:12:23 Xenobreeder: that's what git's conflict-resolution mechanism is for. you'll have to resolve the conflicts either way 18:12:50 I'll look into it. Don't know how it's done yet. 18:13:14 <|amethyst> but 1. sometimes it works anyway 2. the additional metadata lets you do a three-way merge, which is sometimes better at resolving conflicts than just trying to apply a patch 18:14:32 <|amethyst> haven't read these, but some links: http://www.programblings.com/2008/07/21/setting-up-a-long-term-fork-with-git/ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22471151/git-workflow-for-maintaining-a-derivative-fork 18:14:46 <|amethyst> searched for "maintaining a fork with git" 18:14:56 <|amethyst> not everything is relevant to your use case 18:15:15 I think I'll try it this way. If it proves too hard for me I can always roll back to plan B. Thank you. 18:16:07 -!- zauren has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:30 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:18:25 badge: there's no single file with all of it. monster base stats are in mon-data.h; spellbooks are in mon-spell.h 18:19:58