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It strikes me as kind of random. 12:06:18 reaverb: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:07:04 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:04 -!- infrashortfoo_ is now known as infrashortfoo 12:08:41 -!- sunkern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:08:53 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:10:19 -!- Ironfoot has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:32 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Client Quit] 12:12:50 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:14:37 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:16:04 It does make monster vp/na/sp interesting, and it's just another way to differentiate races to me. 12:16:25 yeah you could remove it from felids 12:16:30 i always forget that they have it honestly 12:17:03 but removing it from those other races would nerf those monsters too much 12:17:08 -!- reaverb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17:19 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:17:32 felids probably shouldn't be nerfed : 12:17:33 :3 12:17:38 well, he left 12:17:41 so they are safe 12:17:41 for now 12:17:47 -!- altaj has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:19:42 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:22 My understand was Fe is pretty strong? Fast movement is pretty good. 12:20:32 in the hands of a good player, yes 12:21:14 well, maybe just in general 12:21:30 i helped a guy win HuIE after taking 130 attempts 12:21:37 and he got extremely far with fecj on his first attempt 12:21:41 which i did not really expect 12:23:19 felid just isn't fun 12:23:24 I haven't played since they could use wands though 12:23:36 !lg * won fear 12:23:37 12. ruthinator the Intangible (L26 FeAr of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-05-21 18:23:47, with 1486261 points after 168608 turns and 16:27:30. 12:23:46 heh FeAr of Ru 12:24:07 sac hand and lose 1/3 of your equipment slots 12:25:17 ^ is pretty amusing 12:25:50 how does one ask sequell to dump all of a learn entry? 12:25:52 na/vp/sp thing is yet another reason player-monster symmetry is the worst thing ever >_> <_< 12:25:55 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:25:59 !readall 12:26:02 thanks 12:26:03 only works in pm 12:26:11 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:26:47 ?? sacrifice 12:26:47 ru sacrifices[2/2]: Sac Health, Sac Essence, Sac Purity, Sac Arcana, Sac Drink, Sac Reading, Sac Courage, Sac Love, Sac Nimbleness, Sac Durability, Sac Artifice, Sac Stealth, Sac a Hand, Sac Experience, Sac Skill, Sac Eye, Sac Resistance 12:27:29 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:30:35 Sac Love, as opposed to Love Sac. 12:31:18 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:35:53 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:27 !learn e ru_sacrifices[2] s/reading/Words 12:36:27 ru sacrifices[2/2]: Sac Health, Sac Essence, Sac Purity, Sac Arcana, Sac Drink, Sac Words, Sac Courage, Sac Love, Sac Nimbleness, Sac Durability, Sac Artifice, Sac Stealth, Sac a Hand, Sac Experience, Sac Skill, Sac Eye, Sac Resistance 12:36:46 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:41:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:24 ru seems like a hardcore version of ashenzari's flavor 12:43:36 I think I'll follow her next game :3 12:49:43 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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-!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:10 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 15:44:53 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 15:45:55 -!- syllogism_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:45:56 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:47:39 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:48:56 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 15:53:19 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:50 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:58:17 -!- altaj has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:12 yes 16:03:31 my buddy's win 11/12 do not appear in Sequell http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/frobop.html 16:03:44 his only OgHu win and his first TrMo 16:04:01 both wins happened in a small time frame (5-6 days) 16:04:44 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 16:04:47 <|amethyst> those are on somatica 16:04:53 <|amethyst> http://crawlus.somatika.net/dumps/frobop/morgue-frobop-20120926-013138.txt 16:05:07 <|amethyst> (which no longer exists) 16:05:22 <|amethyst> I guess scoring managed to pull that file before CSN went down, but sequell didn't 16:05:35 Makes sense 16:05:50 figured i would let you guys know in case it was something could/should be fixed. 16:05:59 <|amethyst> greensnark: the relevant logfiles/milestones are on CAO in /home/r a x/scoring/data/ 16:06:57 <|amethyst> greensnark: csn-{milestone,logfile}-git 16:07:29 <|amethyst> !lg frobop csn 16:07:30 No games for frobop (csn). 16:07:34 <|amethyst> !lg * csn 16:07:35 No games for * (csn). 16:07:41 |amethyst: Oh, I see 16:07:42 <|amethyst> !lg * s=src 16:07:47 4660275 games for *: 1878304x cao, 1066370x cszo, 1023852x cdo, 200575x cue, 178317x ckr, 107947x cbro, 86430x cwz, 57120x cxc, 24437x rhf, 23281x lld, 13642x cpo 16:07:50 Thanks, I'll scoop the CAO logs 16:08:00 <|amethyst> ah, no csn at all 16:08:12 <|amethyst> greensnark: in that case there are also 0.11 logs from csn 16:08:27 Let me check what I did with my local CSN logs 16:08:57 Ah, I have the CSN logs, I just screwed up my change to my local cache structure 16:12:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14:59 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:18:30 -!- jefus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18:59 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:21:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:21:57 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:06 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:54 -!- jefus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:28:03 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29:47 -!- Lebbon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:33:34 -!- donblas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:05 good afternoon, sorry to bug, but is anyone here available to look into why http://crawl.akrasiac.org's webtiles is done 16:34:26 i poked in ##crawl a few times but no admins seems to notice 16:34:37 ssh works just fine, i get connection refused 16:34:55 <|amethyst> huh 16:35:06 <|amethyst> don't know why it went down, but I just brought it back up 16:35:30 woot 16:35:32 thanks! 16:36:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:36:29 <|amethyst> ERROR: Uncaught exception GET / (IP.AD.DR.ESS) HTTPRequest(.... 16:36:33 <|amethyst> strange 16:36:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:36:57 <|amethyst> (IP.AD.DR.ESS was someone's address; I guess thye managed to crash the server somehow 16:38:22 haha 16:38:49 <|amethyst> it didn't even finish logging it, so I can't see the actual exception 16:44:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:50:02 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:55:00 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:10 -!- donblas_ has left ##crawl-dev 16:58:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:59:14 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:44 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:46 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:13 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:47 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:33 !lg frobop csn 17:04:34 51. frobop the Changer (L5 DrTm), mangled by a worker ant on D:4 on 2012-10-10 01:16:26, with 403 points after 3814 turns and 0:14:34. 17:04:48 -!- donblas_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:05:20 !lg frobop csn oghu win 17:05:21 1. frobop the Skullcrusher (L27 OgHu of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2012-09-26 01:31:38, with 1807418 points after 117790 turns and 9:43:03. 17:06:05 -!- ontoclasm has left ##crawl-dev 17:06:58 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:07:23 Palyth: Fixed, thanks for reporting it :) 17:08:06 thanks for fixing 17:18:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:19:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:21:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:50 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Client Quit] 17:22:18 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Client Quit] 17:22:50 -!- danharaj has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:24:10 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 17:26:09 -!- Spathi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:30:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:36:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:38:20 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:28 -!- NilsBloodaxe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:39 rax !amethyst CAO scoring is not updating again 17:40:49 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Client Quit] 17:49:57 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:50:01 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:51:04 <|amethyst> oh 17:51:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:51:17 <|amethyst> the machine rebooted, that's why webtiles restarted too 17:52:15 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:22 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:16 <|amethyst> scoring restarted, it will be a little while before the pages are rebuilt 17:55:23 emikaela (L25 DDGl) (Zot:5) 17:56:03 is there a weighting that makes nemelex altars more likely on d:1? 17:56:43 i'm not complaining, i just swear i see way more of them than any other 17:57:12 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:06 s/see/notice/ 17:59:25 .cobbed -2 17:59:31 17/18. rchandra the Bludgeoner (L27 OgWz of Ashenzari), slain by a death cob on Zot:4 on 2015-09-22 01:11:07, with 618137 points after 90090 turns and 9:48:39. 17:59:35 Lasty_: that's an amusing tv 17:59:44 he really did try to get away 18:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:08 @??death_cob 18:00:08 death cob (08z) | Spd: 25 | HD: 14 | HP: 74-107 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 3502(hunger) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2277 | Sz: tiny | Int: human. 18:00:18 I think we might want to make them not so fast 18:00:54 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:00:56 Maybe 20 or even 15 18:02:22 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:02:50 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:03:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:07 he really tried 18:05:21 well, he succeeded at getting it one on one 18:05:43 which was his main goal. i think he knew he couldn't escape 18:06:00 .cobbed -2 -tv 18:06:01 17/18. rchandra, XL27 OgWz, T:90090 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 18:06:12 i can't speak to his overall aim, but i talked to him about it after it happened 18:06:37 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:07:08 why was he standing there eating, instead of using blinking or teleport? 18:08:28 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08:36 well, from what i gathered from what he said, he thought he could eat 18:08:53 but is a cob really supposed to be something you need to teleport from? 18:09:15 i mean, rtele in zot is a pretty dicey solution to a problem 18:09:26 ProzacElf: well. you know the theory of "if it doesn't kill any players, why does it exist" 18:09:28 and blink is practically meaningless against a spd 25 dude 18:09:32 well he did eat a lot, kept getting back to starving 18:09:45 i'm not arguing against it 18:09:50 so, almost everything is supposed to be a teleport-away thread *sometimes* 18:10:29 he himself said he should have used his ?summon 18:10:36 just didn't think of it 18:10:58 -!- SurpriseTRex__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:59 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:11:08 before working himself into the corner that is 18:11:09 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:51 -!- Chousuke has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:15:11 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:15:11 -!- ReinH has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:15:49 greensnark: is there an equivalent of `title:` for -graph? 18:16:02 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:06 so that instead of the sequell query, the graph caption is text of your choice 18:16:16 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:23 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:19:43 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 18:20:13 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:21:33 -!- Zekka has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:40 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:25:16 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:27:57 DreamWalker (L17 DDAK) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1493: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:4) 18:30:28 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:43 <|amethyst> !crashlog 18:31:44 11952. DreamWalker, XL17 DDAK, T:54761 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/DreamWalker/crash-DreamWalker-20150922-222755.txt 18:33:19 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:37:35 the ood reflection bug? 18:37:42 yeah 18:37:49 er, no 18:37:52 <|amethyst> well, that one was a javelin of returning 18:37:56 i guess it's just reflection 18:37:57 <|amethyst> but I see the problem 18:37:59 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:38 <|amethyst> menv[YOU_FAULTLESS] is allocated but is missing a monster type 18:39:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:39:42 <|amethyst> not sure in this case whether it should be using agent(true) to get the pre-reflection agent, or whether it should be using the actual reflector (you rather than YOU_FAULTLESS) 18:41:08 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:41:15 <|amethyst> or, for reflection, should it not care about anybody's see invisible? 18:41:24 report from tavern that reaching level 27 in a skill now crashes the game? 18:41:42 so maybe &s crashing didn't have to do with &s itself, oops :( 18:42:31 <|amethyst> !crashlog -2 18:42:32 No milestones for -2 (crash). 18:42:39 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -2 18:42:39 11951/11952. [2015-09-22 21:55:22] emikaela the Mender (L25 DDGl of Elyvilon) (Zot:5) 18:42:41 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -2 18:42:42 11951/11952. [2015-09-22 21:55:22] emikaela the Mender (L25 DDGl of Elyvilon) (Zot:5) 18:42:42 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -3 18:42:43 11950/11952. [2015-09-22 20:00:01] rmfkf the Skirmisher (L5 DsBe of Trog) (D:3) 18:42:45 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -2 -log 18:42:46 11951/11952. emikaela, XL25 DDGl, T:57224 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/emikaela/crash-emikaela-20150922-215522.txt 18:42:57 <|amethyst> SkillMenu::set_cost 18:42:59 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:43:36 is baseline 0 somehow? 18:44:31 maybe fixup_skills should be before the check for MAX_SKILL_LEVEL 18:45:33 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:02 anyway, gott go 18:46:04 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:46:30 !tell wheals No title: yet, but it's on my list 18:46:31 greensnark: OK, I'll let wheals know. 18:50:39 -!- NilsBloodaxe has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:42 <|amethyst> only seems to happen with returning brand, odd 18:51:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:51:12 <|amethyst> ah 18:51:24 <|amethyst> if (really_returns) // Fire beam in reverse 18:51:41 <|amethyst> that's why it's calling initialise_fire again in the first place 18:52:06 -!- Prozacelf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:25 -!- Prozacelf has quit [Client Quit] 18:53:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:00 <|amethyst> likewise _iood_hit is calling fire() after already setting the reflector 18:55:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 19:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:05 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:23 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:03:34 <|amethyst> re the skills thing, it looks like we're doing things with the SkillMenuEntry before actually setting the skill maybe? 19:05:41 <|amethyst> hm, no, set_skill does that 19:05:47 <|amethyst> unless that's getting a bad arg 19:05:57 Fix for skill cost crash 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9971 by gerbias 19:12:17 <|amethyst> hm, I can't seem to reproduce the skill cost crash 19:12:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:34 -!- danharaj has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:15:32 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:32 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -3 19:16:32 11950/11952. rmfkf, XL5 DsBe, T:2056 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/rmfkf/crash-rmfkf-20150922-200001.txt 19:16:42 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -4 19:16:42 11949/11952. kazuki, XL19 MiFi, T:29131 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/kazuki/crash-kazuki-20150922-200001.txt 19:16:48 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -5 19:16:49 11948/11952. CainoCity, XL18 MiFi, T:49832 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/CainoCity/crash-CainoCity-20150922-103257.txt 19:17:05 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -6 19:17:06 11947/11952. CainoCity, XL18 MiFi, T:49832 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/CainoCity/crash-CainoCity-20150922-103242.txt 19:17:08 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -7 19:17:09 11946/11952. CainoCity, XL18 MiFi, T:49706 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/CainoCity/crash-CainoCity-20150922-102948.txt 19:17:10 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -8 19:17:11 11945/11952. CainoCity, XL18 MiFi, T:49707 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/CainoCity/crash-CainoCity-20150922-102926.txt 19:17:12 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -9 19:17:12 11944/11952. Tab, XL17 NaFi, T:40470 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Tab/crash-Tab-20150922-013904.txt 19:17:14 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -10 19:17:15 11943/11952. avis, XL3 DEIE, T:1583 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/avis/crash-avis-20150922-004457.txt 19:17:40 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -11 19:17:42 11942/11952. Orctaku, XL14 TeGl, T:16841 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/Orctaku/crash-Orctaku-20150921-200001.txt 19:17:43 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -12 19:17:43 11941/11952. MorganLeah, XL27 KoAr, T:58812 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/MorganLeah/crash-MorganLeah-20150921-194110.txt 19:18:02 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -13 19:18:03 11940/11952. MarvinPA, XL27 NaEE, T:962865 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/MarvinPA/crash-MarvinPA-20150921-163233.txt 19:18:03 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -14 19:18:04 11939/11952. Atomjack, XL27 VSGl, T:106034 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Atomjack/crash-Atomjack-20150921-161905.txt 19:18:48 -!- hC|zzz is now known as hypractvChipmunk 19:19:38 <|amethyst> hm, weird, both atomjack's and marvinpa's crashes are because of some bad artefact properties in Lair? 19:19:45 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -15 19:19:45 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -16 19:19:46 11938/11952. Curaria, XL27 VSAs, T:78165 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/Curaria/crash-Curaria-20150921-153012.txt 19:19:46 11937/11952. Curaria, XL27 VSAs, T:73681 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/Curaria/crash-Curaria-20150921-144307.txt 19:20:22 <|amethyst> that one's a dispersal crash 19:21:00 i was browsing the dev wiki today...was https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:gameplay:curses ever resolved? Was it ever discussed in terms of how Drain works now? I seem to remember Drain being an XP loss last time I played, but it seems like a perfect unequip penalty for cursed items 19:21:15 |amethyst: wheals noticed atomjack's crash and recognised it as being the same as my ancient, longstanding one 19:21:26 hypractvChipmunk: *Drain as an artifact brand was implemented 19:22:00 hm...seems like a wasted opportunity >8) 19:22:09 so i reproduced it to check, and it does match (and the dates match up too, they're both very old games that were then resumed with presumably a lair stash causing the crash) 19:22:23 <|amethyst> aha 19:22:32 <|amethyst> I thought your crash looked familiar 19:22:47 i was curious if someone could get hold of atomjack's save file actually, to see what items are in lair there 19:24:16 Does it make sense to log save file versions in crash milestones 19:24:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:24:43 Might be tricky if different save chunks have different versions 19:25:52 Crawl also saves the full version into the player chunk right... ? 19:25:53 * greensnark looks 19:26:32 <|amethyst> greensnark: yeah 19:26:51 <|amethyst> greensnark: near the end of tag_construct_you 19:26:57 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: I can get to the file but not write to the dump directory 19:28:06 Ah 19:28:11 * greensnark likes the bit about eating canaries 19:29:06 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: http://dobrazupa.org/saves/Atomjack-CDO-20150922.cs 19:29:14 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:30:18 thanks, not sure how likely it is to get anywhere with the crash after all this time but i'm curious to take a look anyway :P 19:30:54 hm, the dev wiki in general seems largely deserted; I went there to find out something I could help with and nearly every category is empty >8( 19:31:02 <|amethyst> hm, in Curaria's crash, apply_monsters_around_sequare apparently found a dead monster? Or one with a bad type anyway 19:31:27 <|amethyst> hypractvChipmunk: yeah, we haven't been good about using it much for a while 19:31:41 it's just a graveyard of old arguments, seems like >8) 19:33:10 for feedback, though, I have to say I really like how the move to squarelos plays 19:33:19 -!- ProzacElf has left ##crawl-dev 19:33:36 the plan though! that page is good! 19:34:04 * geekosaur replaces with "love is the plan, the plan is death" 19:34:24 dang 19:36:09 I hadn't played for a few years and came back to crawl with most everything forgotten, and frankly all the concerns I read about how squarelos would be unintuitive and weird to new players seem really silly 19:36:15 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:37:21 i was viewing the game as close to a new experience as possible, and it didn't even faze me 19:37:31 yes, the plan is good >8) 19:37:59 Yeah it's more more intuitive than circlelos. I'd say circlelos and "circular" explosions was prettier, but definitely not enough to have worse gameplay 19:38:08 agreed 19:38:54 i vaguely remember being sorta hand-wavey about calculating ranges...i'd just cast a spell and see if it reached 19:39:01 which always bothered me 19:39:36 like, "i really ought to get around to figuring out the actual rule someday" but it was always more convenient to press a few buttons every time 19:41:21 "so let's see, calculate x and y offset, ok calculate x^2 + y^2 ....ok now r^2...ah yes indeed I have x^2 + y^2 < r^2 + 1...so I can cast it" 19:42:25 "or i can just whack za---- and see if it goes to where i want" 19:43:22 -!- Tags has quit [Quit: Tags] 19:43:24 i didn't even think of the stealth implications of the circle 19:43:35 not something that occurs when you only play casually 19:45:32 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:47:12 <|amethyst> okay, I replicated the crash, and gerbias's fix does seem to work 19:47:40 <|amethyst> also, noticed something weird: in the !experience version of the skill menu, the UI for toggling modes is still there, but doing so doesn't actually change anything 19:48:24 <|amethyst> because of the special casing in SkillMenu::get_state presumably, but I'm not sure what the best solution is... just hide the [_] .... [!] .... UI line? 19:49:47 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1883-gefdfc71: Fix crash on player-reflected IOOD/returning. 10(40 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/efdfc71969b0 19:49:47 03gerbias02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.17-a0-1884-g89d7cbc: Fix for crash when reaching 27 in a skill 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/89d7cbc78799 19:49:57 |amethyst: shoot, there was another bug with that screen that I totally wanted to mention to you guys but now i forgot what it is >8( 19:50:14 I think just hiding it makes the most sense because the percentages go away too 19:50:16 <|amethyst> I'm sure there are plenty :) 19:51:06 <|amethyst> hiding it is probably simplest 19:51:35 <|amethyst> OTOH you may well want to switch to relative cost view, or to "show enhanced level" mode 19:52:04 <|amethyst> the latter e.g. if you want to make sure you don't overtrain a cross-trained skill beyond effective level 27 19:52:11 because I think actually having it not do anything makes more sense because just changing the +/-/* pips doesn't really convey what happens 19:52:37 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:52:46 <|amethyst> ? 19:54:02 are we talking auto/manual or ...wasn't there one for enhanced/normal too? does that also do nothing? 19:54:10 guess i don't have any enhancers on my current character 19:54:22 <|amethyst> ! cycles the third column (training|cost|progress|etc) 19:54:46 <|amethyst> in the potion of experience menu, though, the footer changes but the column is stuck at showing the new skill level 19:54:49 and when it's in cost mode, / does nothing 19:54:57 <|amethyst> which, granted, is the most important thing 19:55:05 ah, this is potion of experience version 19:55:09 <|amethyst> and _ cycles "enhanced" vs "base level", which matters for cross-training etc 19:55:22 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 19:55:28 <|amethyst> except it doesn't actually change anything when it's a potion of experience menu 19:55:36 <|amethyst> just toggles the light at the bottom 19:55:57 the regular version, upon entering a new game, also does nothing for switching between auto and manual modes...that's the one that actually says 'mode' 19:56:24 which was the term you use, so I was confused...it also merely toggles but does nothing >8) 19:56:27 <|amethyst> ? 19:56:35 <|amethyst> hm 19:56:36 press 'm' 19:56:41 <|amethyst> what do you mean by "does nothing"? 19:56:48 press '!' 19:56:53 then press '\' 19:56:55 er 19:56:57 '/' 19:57:14 <|amethyst> ah 19:57:31 <|amethyst> it actually does change the mode 19:57:37 <|amethyst> but fails to redraw 19:57:57 correct 19:58:08 the little +/-/* pips don't change 19:58:14 sorry i derailed you 19:58:14 <|amethyst> now I see what you mean 19:58:18 <|amethyst> write that up on mantis 19:58:19 i don't have an xp potion handy 19:58:29 <|amethyst> that's what wizmode is for :) 19:59:08 >8P 19:59:26 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:16 oh wow, i actually did a smart thing and took a screenshot of the other bug 20:00:22 the one i couldn't remember 20:00:34 i'm a genius! 20:01:18 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:02:18 http://i.imgur.com/iBhpKrZ.png 20:02:38 "Skills enhanced by are in blue." 20:03:03 curious. it should say "by cross-training" 20:03:52 -!- Amy is now known as Guest58487 20:04:04 or...hm. it looks like your staves skill is boosted by cross-training with, eg, m&f, but there's no m&f in your list 20:04:36 <|amethyst> hm, that may be fixed now that we show all skills that have any points 20:05:02 <|amethyst> presumably M+F was trained to 0.9 or something like that 20:05:08 oh, it used to not show skills that you trained but can't continue training now? 20:05:08 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:05:14 <|amethyst> it used to only show them at >= 1 20:05:36 -!- Guest61834 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:06:21 ah, yes, that was it 20:06:31 i had dumped the weapon 20:07:00 so i didn't have the option for m&f training anymore 20:07:37 <|amethyst> !crashlog cainocity 20:07:37 4. CainoCity, XL18 MiFi, T:49832 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/CainoCity/crash-CainoCity-20150922-103257.txt 20:07:41 <|amethyst> !crashlog cainocity -log 20:07:42 4. CainoCity, XL18 MiFi, T:49832 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/CainoCity/crash-CainoCity-20150922-103257.txt 20:07:51 <|amethyst> err, no 20:08:01 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:08:03 <|amethyst> !crashlog curaria 20:08:04 9. Curaria, XL27 VSAs, T:78165 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/Curaria/crash-Curaria-20150921-153012.txt 20:15:56 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:18:24 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:22:09 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:26:14 -!- Echolex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:30:38 skill training indicators don't update cost (!) mode 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9972 by hyperactiveChipmunk 20:31:08 whups, that should be *in* cost mode 20:32:11 all that hard work crafting my bug report and i screwed up the summary D8< 20:32:34 <|amethyst> fixed 20:32:45 <|amethyst> well, the page is still submitting 20:32:46 <|amethyst> there 20:32:47 * hypractvChipmunk sniffles 20:33:04 i wanted it to be perfect for you... 20:33:16 * hypractvChipmunk perks back up 20:33:25 thank you so much! 20:33:36 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1885-g326927c: Don't crash when Dispersing a monster onto a shaft. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/326927c88bd1 20:33:57 now to see about reproducing the other one 20:35:32 <|amethyst> the cross-training one? 20:35:42 <|amethyst> %git e1bd2c87 20:35:42 07Medar02 * 0.17-a0-1853-ge1bd2c8: Show untrainable skills under level 1 (#9940). 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1bd2c877501 20:35:47 <|amethyst> %git e1bd2c87^ 20:35:47 07Medar02 * 0.17-a0-1852-g1570524: Fix an indefinite article. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1570524cb697 20:36:49 <|amethyst> %git 7376cb15a78cf590a43f11e70d9f5f18ba99dc3f 20:36:49 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1857-g7376cb1: Show untrainable skills drained to 0 in menu. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7376cb15a78c 20:37:09 |amethyst: yes 20:37:10 <|amethyst> I bet you can reproduce it in 0.17-a0-1852-g1570524, and in 0.17-a0-1853-ge1bd2c8 if M+F is drained, but not in 0.17-a0-1857-g7376cb1 or later 20:37:40 <|amethyst> but try it out, there might be a situation I'm failing to consider 20:38:11 or rather, i was going to try to reproduce it, but sigmund ambushed me while i was killing dudes to get a weapon skill up 20:38:33 <|amethyst> are you playing online or off? 20:38:35 i guess he thinks it's just fine the way it is 20:38:36 online 20:38:45 <|amethyst> oh, so no wizard mode 20:39:08 <|amethyst> I think one of the servers (CBRO? DBRO?) has turn-0 wizmode enabled 20:39:10 i have one offline, too 20:39:38 <|amethyst> Testing is much easier when you can just set you skills to exactly the levels needed, dismiss all monsters on the level, etc 20:40:12 <|amethyst> &Smaces0.9 for example 20:40:21 well, i had an axe and a sword lying there and 0 skill in either so i figured i'd just whack a few dudes on D:2 and figure it out 20:40:38 <|amethyst> axe and sword don't crosstrain though 20:40:40 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:41:03 short swords crosstrain to long ones no? 20:42:19 and axes do to a few, i think 20:42:25 <|amethyst> yes, but you'd need a long sword too 20:42:35 or would it not show up on the skill screen...yeah 20:42:48 <|amethyst> well, in the current version it would show up I think 20:42:51 wizmode easier anyway 20:43:07 i have a 0.16.2 build i think locally 20:43:09 <|amethyst> but in the older one, it would have to be trainable or over 1.0 skill 20:43:21 and i can build trunk easily enough 20:43:40 so i can test all your scenarios 20:44:57 this is first time i've used wizmode; nice interface >8P 20:47:43 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1886-gbabdea6: Warn about changing reflected beam visibility logic. 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/babdea6fbde7 20:47:50 -!- Kramin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51:06 hm, have I made some rcfile changes or has this changed significantly recently? 20:51:33 ! toggles training|progress|points instead of training|cost 20:52:09 03greensnark02 07* 0.17-a0-1887-g3e50df6: Write Crawl tag and save versions to logs 10(12 minutes ago, 6 files, 91+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3e50df6fc1d9 20:53:13 grah, it's even still different when i use my online rc file 20:54:16 there isn't even an ! toggle unless i'm in wiz mode 20:55:00 just how many versions of this screen are there?!? O_o 20:55:17 shoot, just be easier to debug by eyeballing the code 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:19 some new compile warnings with new xcode's cc 21:05:40 ./melee_attack.h:70:10: warning: 'check_unrand_effects' overrides a member function but is not marked 'override' [-Winconsistent-missing-override] 21:06:01 (this shows up for several things, can post the full log if desired) 21:06:19 <|amethyst> chequers: just mark them override and submit a pull request :) 21:06:24 <|amethyst> chequers: I missed some I guess 21:06:27 ok 21:06:40 <|amethyst> not entirely surprising, because I was working by hand 21:07:18 do I mark them override in just the .h file or .cc too? 21:07:52 <|amethyst> just the declaration in the class 21:08:00 <|amethyst> (after const if any) 21:08:19 <|amethyst> (I'm not saying ".h" because some classes are defined in .cc files) 21:09:04 ok 21:10:24 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:12:14 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:11 |amethyst: yeah, I can't reproduce it at all, in any of the versions mentioned. I'm a horrible failure >8*( 21:14:15 i should really get ccache set up 21:14:20 swapping branches is hell 21:14:41 ccache is yummy 21:15:52 state.cc:54:53: warning: field 'mon_act' will be initialized after field 'disables' [-Wreorder] 21:16:32 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:16:36 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:17:54 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/115 21:22:46 New branch created: pull/115 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/115 21:22:46 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/115 * 0.17-a0-1888-g3c958ec: Add all missing override specifiers (|amethyst) 10(12 hours ago, 3 files, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c958ec89c28 21:22:46 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/115 * 0.17-a0-1889-g530bd39: Improve "missing gdb" error message. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/530bd399dd4e 21:25:24 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:08 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:29:52 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:24 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:37:09 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:40:37 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:44:20 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:45:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:46:23 -!- elliptic has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:57 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:05:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:14:39 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:15:35 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:17:43 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:20:36 -!- Amy is now known as Guest66077 22:23:12 -!- Guest58487 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:23:20 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:58 -!- zero_one_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:39:00 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:40:00 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:42:23 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:45:00 -!- Avigdore has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:46:38 -!- oky has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 22:47:03 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:47:04 -!- djinni has quit [K-Lined] 22:48:43 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:06 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:13:14 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:37 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:19:40 -!- Nooma has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:21 Copingsaw (L21 FoFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1493: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:4) 23:23:46 -!- Nooma has quit [Client Quit] 23:31:58 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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