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01:06:45 multiple ones? 01:07:01 is this some new vault? 01:07:15 oh, nevermind 01:07:16 trog vault 01:11:35 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:11:59 why does casting a spell with insufficient MP still take a turn? 01:16:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17:39 <|amethyst> rchandra: ? 01:17:59 <|amethyst> rchandra: it shouldn't 01:18:31 oh. time to doublecheck and mantis then 01:18:31 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1863-g715b4b0 (34) 01:18:43 thought it might have been a misfeature 01:18:54 <|amethyst> which spell? 01:19:31 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:20:09 I thought I checked a few summons, it was a day or two ago 01:20:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:20:16 TODO: if someone defines a "goblin chief", this should be revisited. 01:20:19 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 01:20:24 challenge: guess the context of this 01:20:42 robin? 01:20:49 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:21:05 nope 01:21:21 -!- ghostter has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:45 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:21:55 hmm. can't reproduce now, but I'm 98% sure enemies were attacking when I did that. 01:21:57 a racially insensitive tile? 01:23:43 <|amethyst> I added the comment, so I can't answer 01:26:49 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:33:36 endless loading screen on webtiles 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9966 by kuniqs 01:35:02 <|amethyst> hmm 01:36:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:38:27 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:41:29 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:47:07 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48:50 Lost a point of magic for no reason 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9967 by nubinia 01:49:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:53:18 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:53:33 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1863-g715b4b0 01:54:00 -!- eb has quit [] 01:59:12 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:07 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:07:33 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 02:19:51 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:20:35 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:00 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:27:25 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:32:37 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:46:53 <|amethyst> hmm 02:47:14 <|amethyst> is goblin ; good_item dagger supposed to never give a brand? 02:47:27 <|amethyst> just a plain good_item dagger can give brands 02:47:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:48:10 <|amethyst> oh 02:48:18 <|amethyst> I guess it does say "Randarts and ego items are only generated if they are explicitly requested. 02:49:01 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1863-g715b4b0 02:50:08 <|amethyst> hm, so that seems to be intentional, but why does goblin ; acquire weapon never get a brand or even plusses? 02:53:50 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:01 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:56:45 -!- st_ has quit [] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:04:39 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:10:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:11:53 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1863-g715b4b0 (34) 03:15:31 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:24:32 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:28:27 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:30:29 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:31:09 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:31:34 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 03:33:17 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:37:17 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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05:06:17 ah nvm, found it 05:09:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:12:40 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 40.0.3/20150826023504]] 05:14:07 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:14:19 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:17:48 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:37:59 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 05:46:10 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:24 -!- Saka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:48:03 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:51:06 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07:25 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:14:09 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:18:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:25:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:26:48 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:27:27 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 06:32:51 -!- CcS has quit [] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:23:18 blinkfrog (L22 OpFE) (Vaults:3) 07:29:45 -!- blinkfrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:29:48 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:41:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:19 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:53 -!- jakub_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:59:10 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:52 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 08:12:28 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:38 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:49 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:12 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:39:43 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:40:29 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:41:09 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:47:02 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20:36 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:57 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:31:47 -!- Kanbei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:36:07 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:58:37 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:35 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:12:56 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:17:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:22:46 -!- rossi_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:32:39 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:41:15 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:08 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:46:32 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:46:45 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:16 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:36 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:15:56 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:58 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 11:30:42 -!- jakub_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:37:48 why does ctrl+f searching for "dungeon" not match anything? 11:38:25 <|amethyst> Kolbur: odd, it should at least show "a staircase leading out of the dungeon" 11:39:56 <|amethyst> Kolbur: if you want to search for items in the main dungeon, try searching for D: 11:40:36 <|amethyst> FR: D:\Lair\Shoals\ 11:41:11 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 11:41:35 also it's pretty annoying that mr\+ doesn't fing ring of magic protection 11:41:43 *dinf 11:41:44 *find 11:41:47 lol 11:43:26 <|amethyst> !bug 9926 11:43:26 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9926 11:46:20 !tell greensnark Do you know of a better way to do things like: !RELAY -nick gammafunk .echo $(let (p comborobin) (exec (eval '!lg $p'))) so I can use !RELAY but define some custom vars like $p for the player and maybe $tileschat for the set of spectators? I can do variable replacement myself, but was hoping to have Sequell use its expansion rules 11:46:21 Maximum message length is 340 characters, but you had 1637. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 11:46:42 wow, really that long 11:46:55 <|amethyst> gammafunk: $() 11:47:03 <|amethyst> gammafunk: backslash the $ 11:47:07 <|amethyst> probably both of them 11:47:12 <|amethyst> err, all four 11:47:47 you mean e.g. $(!lg...)? 11:48:12 the problem is it messes up !lg results, for one 11:48:14 <|amethyst> like !tell foo .echo \$(let (p comborobin) 11:48:19 <|amethyst> No, I mean in the tell 11:48:34 <|amethyst> that's why it said the tell was 1637 characters: it was expanding your $ expressions 11:48:38 the tell is expanding all your ... that 11:48:40 oh, haha 11:49:38 !tell greensnark Do you know of a better way to do things like: !RELAY -nick gammafunk .echo \$(let (p comborobin) (exec (eval '!lg \$p'))) so I can use !RELAY but define some custom vars like \$p for the player and maybe \$tileschat for the set of spectators? I can do variable replacement myself, but was hoping to have Sequell use its expansion rules. 11:49:39 gammafunk: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 11:49:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:50:37 <|amethyst> !tell |amethyst \$(echo foo) 11:50:37 |amethyst: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:50:38 <|amethyst> !messages 11:50:38 (1/1) |amethyst said (2s ago): $(echo foo) 11:50:45 <|amethyst> !tell |amethyst \$(echo \$foo) 11:50:46 |amethyst: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:50:47 <|amethyst> !messages 11:50:47 (1/1) |amethyst said (2s ago): $(echo $foo) 11:50:54 <|amethyst> !tell |amethyst \$(.echo \$foo) 11:50:54 |amethyst: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:50:55 <|amethyst> !messages 11:50:55 (1/1) |amethyst said (1s ago): $(.echo $foo) 11:50:58 !tell gammafunk hi 11:50:59 gammafunk: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:51:07 weird, I thought it disallowed that 11:51:07 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:51:16 oh that's seen, never mind 11:51:23 <|amethyst> !seen |amethyst 11:51:23 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:51:25 <|amethyst> !seen neil 11:51:26 Sorry |amethyst, I haven't seen neil. 11:51:30 <|amethyst> !seen \amethyst 11:51:30 Sorry |amethyst, I haven't seen \amethyst. 11:51:31 although 11:51:39 <|amethyst> !seen sequell 11:51:39 Sorry |amethyst, I haven't seen sequell. 11:51:44 <|amethyst> !seen cheibriados 11:51:44 I last saw Cheibriados at Tue Nov 26 19:21:35 2013 UTC (about 1y 42w 4d 20h 30m 8s ago) joining the channel. 11:52:09 !seen Grunt 11:52:09 Sorry Grunt, that person is dead. 11:52:11 rip 11:52:19 <|amethyst> !seen cang 11:52:19 cang 11:52:22 .echo $(let (nick |amethyst) (!seen gammafunk)) 11:52:23 Sorry gammafunk, that person is dead. 11:52:24 cang?? 11:52:24 cang 11:52:32 clang?? 11:52:32 clang 11:53:00 <|amethyst> !cmd seen 11:53:00 Built-in: !seen => https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/commands/seen.pl 11:53:09 have to use /nick to fool sequell 11:53:50 <|amethyst> .echo $(let (nick gammafunk) (.echo $nick)) 11:53:50 gammafunk 11:53:57 <|amethyst> .echo $(let (nick gammafunk) (!lg .)) 11:53:57 11202. :id=4828668:offset=344879050:game_key=neil::cszo::20150820144405S:file=cszo/meta/git/logfile:alpha=true:src=cszo:explbr=:v=0.17.0-a0:cv=0.17-a:vlong=0.17-a0-1863-g715b4b0:lv=0.1:sc=19:name=neil:race=Hill Orc:crace=Hill Orc:cls=Fire Elementalist:char=HOFE:xl=2:sk=Fire Magic:sklev=3:title=Firebug:ktyp=mon:killer=Terence:ckiller=Terence:ikiller=Terence:cikiller=Terence:kpath=:kmod=:kaux=a +1 f... 11:54:08 yeah that's the problem with what I'm doing 11:54:19 <|amethyst> oh 11:54:22 lg results get weird when subcommanded 11:54:28 maybe other commands break too 11:54:32 <|amethyst> .echo $(let (user gammafunk) (!seen gammafunk)) 11:54:32 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:55:07 <|amethyst> hmm 11:55:17 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 11:55:17 -!- |amethyst is now known as notamethyst 11:55:25 .echo $(let (channel ##crawl) (!shatter Grunt)) 11:55:25 gammafunk gestures wildly while chanting. ##crawl-dev rumbles around gammafunk! Grunt shudders from the earth-shattering force. 11:55:48 !learn add :beh: test 11:55:48 Permission db::beh: denied: nick notamethyst not authorized 11:56:00 .echo $(let (user |amethyst) (!learn add :beh: test)) 11:56:00 Subcommand $(!learn add :beh: test) failed: Permission db::beh: denied: nick notamethyst not authorized 11:56:07 .echo $(let (nick |amethyst) (!learn add :beh: test)) 11:56:08 Subcommand $(!learn add :beh: test) failed: Permission db::beh: denied: nick notamethyst not authorized 11:56:11 !cmd !shatter 11:56:11 Command: !shatter => .echo $nick $(=rndspellgesture). $channel rumbles around ${nick}! ${*:-Everyone} shudders from the earth-shattering force. 11:56:12 oh good 11:56:15 -!- notamethyst is now known as |amethyst 11:56:27 <+notamethyst> !seen |amethyst 11:56:35 -!- |amethyst is now known as notamethyst 11:56:40 !seen |amethyst 11:56:40 I last saw |amethyst at Sun Sep 20 15:55:07 2015 UTC (1m 32s ago) saying 'hmm' on ##crawl-dev. 11:56:42 <3 11:57:02 .echo $(let (nick |amethyst user |amethyst) (!learn add :beh: test)) 11:57:02 Subcommand $(!learn add :beh: test) failed: Permission db::beh: denied: nick notamethyst not authorized 11:57:12 -!- notamethyst is now known as |amethyst 11:57:22 .echo $(let (user |amethyst) (!seen gammafunk)) 11:57:23 Sorry gammafunk, that person is dead. 11:57:40 <|amethyst> err 11:57:46 <|amethyst> now I'm really confused 11:57:50 <|amethyst> .echo $(let (user gammafunk) (!seen gammafunk)) 11:57:50 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:57:53 <|amethyst> .echo $(let (user gammafunk) (!seen |amethyst)) 11:57:54 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:57:57 <|amethyst> .echo $(let (user gammafunk) (!seen grunt)) 11:57:57 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:58:01 rip 11:58:31 <|amethyst> okay, now I'm thoroughly confused 11:58:51 <|amethyst> .echo (!seen grunt) 11:58:52 (!seen grunt) 11:58:55 <|amethyst> .echo $(!seen grunt) 11:58:55 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:58:57 <|amethyst> oh 11:59:00 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:07 <|amethyst> .echo $(!seen grunt |amethyst) 11:59:08 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:59:10 .echo $(!seen dead) 11:59:10 Sorry Grunt, that person is dead. 11:59:13 -!- Saka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59:17 .echo $(!seen nobody) 11:59:17 Sorry Grunt, that person is dead. 11:59:18 <|amethyst> .echo $(!seen) 11:59:19 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:59:22 !seen 11:59:22 Sorry Grunt, that person is dead. 11:59:24 aha 11:59:30 <|amethyst> !seen fred 11:59:30 Sorry |amethyst, I haven't seen fred. 11:59:43 <|amethyst> .echo $(!seen "grunt") 11:59:44 Sorry |amethyst, that person is dead. 11:59:56 <|amethyst> why isn't the argument being passed? 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:55 .echo $(let (user "Bart") (exec (eval '!seen gammafunk'))) 12:00:55 Sorry gammafunk, that person is dead. 12:01:16 oh that won't change things 12:01:33 no direct expasion anyhow 12:01:39 *expansion 12:01:48 <|amethyst> btw, should randarts held by a monster identify their brand? 12:02:08 seems to me they should, yeah 12:02:19 but we don't have a way to partial id artes? 12:03:20 <|amethyst> we still have item.props[KNOWN_PROPS_KEY] 12:03:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:45 Have to go, but yeah would be nice if their brand is revealed like how it is for normal weapons 12:04:51 assuming that isn't the case 12:04:55 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:06:27 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:07:25 I'm fairly sure that is the casse 12:08:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:29 <|amethyst> kvaak: it's identified for many brands if they hit you with it 12:09:35 <|amethyst> but doesn't seem to be IDed on sight 12:10:17 <|amethyst> and ID on hit doesn't work on vorpal, speed, holy-if-you're-human, etc 12:11:12 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:14:47 -!- NecroBanana has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22:22 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1864-g4ecfd9b: Identify brands of monster-held artefacts. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ecfd9b12962 12:22:22 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1865-g67f9a5a: Brace. 10(23 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/67f9a5a94a8f 12:22:25 -!- captainkraft_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:23:26 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:26:48 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:30:10 -!- cjm has quit [] 12:31:16 !tell gammafunk Is note_chat_messages=true close enough to the message history you wanted? 12:31:16 Xenobreeder: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:31:46 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:35:57 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: I assume you didn't intend to move the kraken in Menkaure Sprint? 12:36:26 <|amethyst> %git 23668633 12:36:26 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-935-g2366863: Remove baby alligators 10(5 months ago, 20 files, 15+ 79-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/23668633fad2 12:37:14 i don't remember but yeah, looks accidental 12:39:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1866-g5b60146: Don't move the kraken in sprint II (MrPlanck) 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b601467fc7d 12:54:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:55:59 -!- xcourier has quit [Client Quit] 12:59:50 -!- xcourier has quit [Client Quit] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:10 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00:40 Is it just me, or does qw.rc not work in trunk? 13:01:04 I'm doing: ./crawl -seed 1 -no-save -name test -wizard -no-throttle -rc test/stress/qw.rc 13:02:01 <|amethyst> you have to press tab 13:02:21 Ah :) 13:02:36 <|amethyst> that said, I'm not sure how what kinds of problems -no-save might cause 13:03:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:05:38 Does test/stress/run send the tab somehow? 13:05:48 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1866-g5b60146 (34) 13:06:19 <|amethyst> no, but qw isn't part of the "all" or "test" 13:06:24 <|amethyst> s/the // 13:06:37 <|amethyst> but yeah, that would be nice 13:06:40 ok 13:06:43 <|amethyst> wonder if the older version did that 13:07:01 <|amethyst> oh 13:07:11 <|amethyst> -: AUTO_START = true 13:07:11 <|amethyst> +: AUTO_START = false 13:07:53 ah yes, I see it 13:08:59 I'm trying to test that crawl always outputs valid json for webtiles 13:10:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1867-g2ecafe1: Make test/stress/qw.rc more automatic (Medar) 10(57 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ecafe17cefd 13:10:40 -!- PsyMar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10:59 Should -no-save stop the writing of .persist files? 13:12:56 <|amethyst> hmm 13:13:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:13:41 <|amethyst> that sounds reasonable, assuming it doesn't break a running game that doesn't save 13:14:12 <|amethyst> ah, --no-save makes a temp save file, which is why it doesn't cause problems 13:16:29 as far as I can see .persist is only loaded once when starting the game 13:16:48 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:19:21 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:20:50 -!- lgft has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:24:17 <|amethyst> probably that makes sense then 13:25:41 -!- Saka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:28 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:07 uhh, looks like Options.no_save gets reset to false at some point 13:32:07 <|amethyst> hm 13:32:23 <|amethyst> looks like read_init_file resets options 13:32:39 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:33:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:28 <|amethyst> hm 13:35:07 <|amethyst> but parse_args(,,false) is called after that 13:36:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:37:38 <|amethyst> I guess something with .persist is happening before parse_args(,,false) ? 13:39:31 not sure 13:43:46 -!- Zilis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:44:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:46:24 -!- captainkraft_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:46:53 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:47:20 <|amethyst> oh, hm 13:47:39 <|amethyst> I guess the read_init_file from _post_init is resetting the option a second time 13:47:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:28 yeah 13:49:02 <|amethyst> ah, but currently none of the options that you set on the command-line affect anything after birth 13:49:46 maybe it's not worth the trouble to stop .persist then 13:49:53 -!- Xenophone has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:50:44 <|amethyst> it would prevent the initial loading, since load_persist happens earlier in _post_init 13:51:30 <|amethyst> could put the name of the persist file in you 13:52:08 <|amethyst> hm 13:52:14 <|amethyst> actually, is Options.filename the temp file 13:53:10 <|amethyst> oh, that's the init file 13:54:20 <|amethyst> oh, that's bad 13:54:28 <|amethyst> test/stress/qw.rc.persist 13:55:30 <|amethyst> there definitely should be some way to disable that 13:55:42 qw does clear that on game start afaik 13:55:48 <|amethyst> or at the very least we should add .persist to our Git ignores 13:55:54 but relying on it doesn't seem good of course 13:56:34 <|amethyst> my complaint is that it's creating files inside the repo that someone might accidentally commit if they use git add -a 13:56:43 sure 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:25 <|amethyst> hm 14:01:01 <|amethyst> maybe, though, no_save should have its default set in game_options::game_options and not in reset_options 14:01:19 <|amethyst> trying to think of whether that would have other implications 14:01:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:02:22 sounds reasonable at least 14:05:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:07 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:08 The build was broken. (master - 4ecfd9b #3208 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/81265786 14:13:08 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:13:51 <|amethyst> SIGTERM so I assume a timeout 14:14:04 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:27 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:23:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1868-g60cf096: Don't clear Options.no_save when loading the rc file. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60cf09665525 14:23:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1869-g01048b6: Simplify, and remove an #if 0 block. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/01048b661501 14:25:27 <|amethyst> Medar: there you go 14:25:40 sweet 14:26:03 so -no-save should stop both loading and saving of .persist? 14:29:35 -!- danharaj has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:30:30 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:17 <|amethyst> hm 14:33:45 <|amethyst> probably, since that's what it does for saves 14:33:49 right 14:33:57 <|amethyst> but maybe see if elliptic has an opinion on the matter 14:34:34 <|amethyst> I guess there's the question of what to do if we want to test .persist stuff 14:34:41 <|amethyst> I guess we just use a save file then 14:36:18 <|amethyst> hm 14:36:59 I have a 0.9 save on CDO. Can I finish it? 14:37:34 you should be able to but it may behave slightly wonky 14:37:56 How? 14:38:07 No 0.9 in the menu. 14:38:26 hrm, point 14:38:42 * geekosaur wonders if his ancient save is even accessible any more that he keeps forgetting to splat 14:38:54 !locateallall 14:39:00 casual: CAO 0.13-a, L12 MiFi of Trog | CBRO 0.17-a, L6 MfSk of No God | CBRO 0.14, L18 DDFi of Makhleb | CDO 0.9, L9 FeBe of Trog | CDO 0.17-a, L14 DsGl of Gozag | CSZO 0.17-a, L25 VSMo of Qazlal | CSZO 0.14, L9 CeAM of Okawaru | CUE 0.17-a, L15 DECj of Vehumet | CUE 0.14, L22 DDFi of Makhleb | CXC 0.17-a, L18 DsCK of Xom | CXC 0.14, L16 DrNe of Kikubaaqudgha 14:39:37 Want to finish that FeBe, but cannot access it. 14:51:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:51:30 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:52:37 Medar, |amethyst: what is -no-save exactly? 14:52:37 elliptic: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:53:32 <|amethyst> elliptic: it makes the save use a temporary file so that testing won't be broken by an existing save file with the same name 14:53:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 14:53:44 <|amethyst> (it also turns off fsync on the save) 14:54:14 <|amethyst> %git 4a20bb18f 14:54:15 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-2781-g4a20bb1: An undocumented command-line option, --no-save. 10(3 years, 2 months ago, 8 files, 51+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4a20bb18f0e7 14:55:11 <|amethyst> (the fsync thing came later) 14:56:01 yeah, making it turn off .persist seems correct 14:58:24 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: || ~~ ||] 14:59:31 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:59:31 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:22 !locateall 15:00:22 Failed to locate geekosaur. 15:00:27 mrf 15:00:31 !locateall Duph 15:00:31 Failed to locate Duph. 15:00:37 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:43 <|amethyst> hm 15:00:44 !locateallall Duph 15:00:45 Duph: CAO 0.13-a, L23 HOBe of Trog 15:00:50 Old version. 15:00:59 yeh, wanted to check how ancient that was 15:01:01 <|amethyst> CDO does have an 0.9 binary, but it's not set up in the dgamelaunch config 15:01:08 <|amethyst> AFAIK only nap.kin can change that 15:01:43 Can it be killed then? So it doesn't trigger me by showing up in the list. 15:01:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:36 -!- gerbias has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:00 <|amethyst> hm 15:04:27 <|amethyst> would have to either enable 0.9 temporarily and quit the game, or else generate a fake entry in the logfile 15:05:39 <|amethyst> (both of which can only be done by nap.kin, and aren't trivial to do) 15:06:00 we don't really try to have 50 character first line in commit messages, right? 15:14:33 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:16:03 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:04 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:55 -!- shklvsk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:19:59 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:25:18 03Medar02 07* 0.17-a0-1870-g9780164: Don't load or save .persist files when using -no-save. 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/97801649e21d 15:26:32 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:33 The build was fixed. 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Use !messages to read it. 15:38:39 I last saw doy at Tue Sep 15 06:32:54 2015 UTC (5d 13h 5m 44s ago) joining the channel. 15:40:36 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42:23 -!- captainkraft_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:43:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:50:45 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:53:00 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 15:53:33 -!- tognito has quit [Client Quit] 15:53:54 -!- PsyMar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54:01 -!- tognito has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:12 howdy 15:54:40 I am trying to play dungeon crawl on my android tablet but I couldn't make it happen so far 15:55:09 I wonder if any android developer over here can advice 15:55:50 Change Rod Recharge Message 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9968 by gerbias 15:55:52 there aren't really any android devs here 15:55:56 I have a minus 24, if I remember well, error when installing the ascii version 15:56:18 geekosaur: ok thanks 15:56:19 the tiles version was kinda halfassed together; the ascii one wasn't done by anyone here 15:56:35 you're better off using the play store to contact the developer of the ascii one 15:56:45 the tiles one crashes one I grab coins 15:56:57 the ascii version works find in another android device I own 15:57:53 the play store contact? 15:58:14 I'll try submitting a comment there 15:59:06 great work guys 15:59:19 I'd love to help on developing this 15:59:36 what's the language used to code here? 15:59:47 we could really use an androiddev if you know one 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:09 Grunt did what he could to make it build but nobody here really knows android dev 16:00:13 I work with java and I know the basics only for android 16:00:32 dcss is written in C++ with some lua 16:01:37 tognito, have you tried playing via the online tiles app on android? Or just use an ssh client for console? 16:01:47 I use the latter, works like a charm. 16:01:52 yeah I also use the online tiles 16:02:35 but I'd like to have it offline too, it's the best when traveling for some hours 16:03:35 I have a cheap android netbook and I can play the ascii version there, sweet to the beat 16:03:48 Haven't really tried the offline versions, I just use my cheap as dirt mobile interwebs. 16:04:19 0.4$/month. 16:04:53 <|amethyst> hmm 16:05:02 -!- Kolbur has left ##crawl-dev 16:05:02 <|amethyst> maybe I should replace CSZO with 250 of those 16:05:06 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:05:37 Well, it's slow, of course. But it's enough for me. 16:07:05 I see the ascii version is not up to date, I guess the main task is to find someone who can publish something in android with the latest version of the code 16:07:05 -!- gerbias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:08:10 <|amethyst> I still think we should invite the authors of the Android ascii port and webtiles frontend to the dev team :) 16:08:35 I see 0.16.1 in the store. 16:08:55 right, they don't package trunk, only the latest release 16:11:54 not too bad, mine is older 16:12:20 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12:52 * geekosaur should really sort out the font issue (or see if the current ascii one deals better) on tablet 16:14:43 Mine's older too, but just because I don't like 0.15+, so staying in 0.14 16:14:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:18:07 -!- tognito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:26:40 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:19 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:32:57 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42:48 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:45:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:45:32 <|amethyst> BTW, I think it's weird, but kind of hard to @crawlcode, that melee_attack and ranged_attack both have a method named attack(), which also happens to be the name of the base class 16:45:47 <|amethyst> half-tempted to rename that to operator() :P 16:46:02 <|amethyst> operator()() that is 16:52:23 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:54:01 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:54:26 <|amethyst> hm 16:54:51 <|amethyst> wonder if there's a way to get g++ or clang to warn when a method is overridden without using the 'override' specifier 16:55:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1871-gdc8eb4e: C++11: add more override specifiers. 10(55 minutes ago, 31 files, 714+ 676-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc8eb4eb1912 16:55:49 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:12 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:59:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:25 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:06:12 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:23 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:59 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 17:20:17 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:15 -!- jakub_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:35:57 !seen bodrick 17:35:57 I last saw Bodrick at Thu Sep 17 10:56:35 2015 UTC (3d 10h 39m 22s ago) saying 'invis / dazzling spray / confuse helps' on ##crawl. 17:36:26 ontoclasm: I made some comments on Bodrick's PR on github, not sure what your take on the issue I raised is 17:36:31 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:38:55 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:39:10 -!- ketsa has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 17:42:36 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:44:30 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:45:12 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:49:52 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:52:48 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:25 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:59:40 gammafunk, is note_chat_messages=true close enough to the message history you wanted? 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:40 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:08 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:03:59 Xenobreeder: no I don't want a message history, I want an input history 18:04:11 So while in chat you can easilly retype previous messages 18:04:30 much like how you can in any irc client 18:04:42 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:52 just something like it retaining the last 5-10 lines of input would be great 18:05:10 and you hit up/down to cycle through them 18:05:38 name completion would also be great, but since tab is used by the browser already it'd have to be some other key 18:07:04 http://pastebin.com/g81817Nd 18:07:06 what we kind of need is a twitch-style chat window and where, like twitch, there's an irc gateway you can use 18:07:15 I'm using an in-browser IRC client right now. It has tab name completion and all that. Can't you just integrate something like this into your webtiles? 18:07:24 (http://webchat.freenode.net/) 18:07:45 guess this should go mostly to c++ code... 18:08:49 Xenobreeder: well, "just" 18:09:06 Heh. 18:09:07 we'd have to make a channel for each game 18:09:09 SMOP 18:09:25 which is actually what twitch does 18:09:31 well not quite 18:09:38 it makes a channel for each user 18:09:50 but in webtiles one user can have multiple games 18:09:53 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1871-gdc8eb4e (34) 18:10:09 I suppose in an ideal world there'd be one channel per user just like that, though 18:10:09 Use game id for channel name? 18:10:14 but we don't have unified login 18:10:48 the issue isn't just "what do you call your channel" it's also "how do they get made and torn down" etc 18:11:18 there's a number of technical issues, but sure there's certainly the possibility 18:13:34 Made = creating a user on the server in the #game-id channel each time the game starts. Taking it down — automatically, when it has no users. 18:15:00 I think you're confusing implementation details and "a basic plan" 18:15:40 Heh, yeah, the devil's in the details. 18:17:01 There's no question that something like irc-based webtiles chat could work with a per-game channel or even a per-global user channel (the ideal certainly), but there's lots of work to integrate either approach into webtiles and certainly some technical issues/decisions 18:17:59 We def. don't want to converge reimplementing irc in webtiles chat, but I don't think a basic input history is too much 18:18:10 s/converge/converge on/ 18:18:44 yeah, that should be pretty trivial 18:19:06 Gonna try to hack that one up, since |amethyst tells me just upgrading chat.js isn't too bad 18:19:16 there is probably some js chat ui library, that could help, but might also be more trouble to implement than just doing things from scratch 18:19:41 right, I can't think of much more I'd want aside from input history and some form of name completion 18:19:47 neither of which is too hard 18:19:55 not sure about a key for the latter though 18:20:22 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:46 leaving read-only chat on the screen when the game is over would be nice 18:21:03 oh, like how we do for a morgue? 18:21:25 I guess it could be a read-only textarea underneath that, or something 18:21:27 right, then close it when the morgue is closed 18:21:59 yep, or replace text area with some text, whatever looks nice and clear 18:22:01 I think that would require saving the entire chat history of the session 18:22:14 which I don't think we do, not a big deal I guess 18:22:14 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:22:31 oh I guess it's all there as divs though 18:22:34 well I just mean not removing the element when the game is closed 18:22:55 only for spectators 18:23:30 yeah, technically though I think it does a url change of some kind...there'd probably be changes to a number of js for that, but yeah good idea 18:23:57 s/number of js/number of js changes/ 18:24:37 |amethyst: how would you upgrade any client js at present, manual copy? 18:24:55 I wouldn't think so, but not sure 18:24:55 I did make that webtiles upgrade dgl component 18:25:26 Medar: iirc the morgue popup is over the lobby 18:25:43 it is, yes 18:25:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk: install_trunk does that currently 18:26:00 really, doesn't it only update game_data? 18:26:26 I'm talking stuff in webserver/static/scripts, to be clear 18:26:42 <|amethyst> gammafunk: 18:26:42 <|amethyst> cp -r source/webserver/game_data/. $DATADIR/web 18:26:42 <|amethyst> cp -r source/webserver/!(config.py|game_data|templates) $WEBDIR 18:26:43 <|amethyst> cp source/webserver/templates/client.html $WEBDIR/templates/ 18:26:43 <|amethyst> cp source/webserver/templates/game_links.html $WEBDIR/templates/ 18:27:01 <|amethyst> both are copied, in two separate commands 18:27:06 yeah then it wouldn't get these files 18:27:32 these are source/webserver/static/scripts 18:27:33 <|amethyst> the second line matches webserver/static 18:27:41 ah ! 18:27:48 heh 18:27:52 <|amethyst> useful extglob! 18:28:06 ...huh, well that's basically a full install of the game app 18:28:11 I hadn't realized this was done 18:28:25 so we mean the webtiles server when we say upgrade webtiles 18:28:47 so that's good then, all the dgl based servers should upgrade fine for any changes like this 18:28:49 <|amethyst> and even that gets copied over 18:28:58 <|amethyst> it just needs to be restarted 18:29:01 right 18:29:06 <|amethyst> the problem with webtiles-changes was that the config would have to be rewritten 18:29:07 just not config.py itself 18:29:20 <|amethyst> right, stock config.py isn't very useful for a real server :) 18:29:21 the two issues are restarting the server, and client side caching 18:29:40 hrm, so cxc and cue are dgl based 18:29:47 that leaves lld, cwz, cpo 18:30:09 and dplusplus has a bunch of custom commits on his branch, which doesn't help things 18:30:32 He must automatically cherry pick those or something? 18:30:47 &versions lld 18:30:51 CAO: none, CBRO: none, CDO: none, CLAN: none, CPO: none, CSZO: none, CWZ: none, CXC: none, LLD: 0.17-a0-1846-g603449a 18:30:54 &version lld 18:30:55 lld: 0.17-a0-1846-g603449a 18:30:59 %git 18:30:59 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-1871-gdc8eb4e: C++11: add more override specifiers. 10(3 hours ago, 31 files, 714+ 676-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc8eb4eb1912 18:31:44 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:15 well ok, anyhow that's good to know I can at least make some changes to the app and they're be rolled on easilly on most servers 18:32:55 webtiles-changes is probably easy to cherry-pick into but then chequers is also running a custom branch, so he'd have to just cherry-pick himself I suppose 18:33:12 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest96147 18:33:25 I guess I can just use TWITTER to coordinate with dplusplus about lld 18:34:07 Any thoughts about this? http://pastebin.com/g81817Nd 18:34:09 |amethyst: you don't happen to know how hong has cwz setup, do you? In terms of his update scripts? 18:34:40 There should probably be a clua function to get jewellery's base types terse name, but I don't know what that would be called 18:34:46 <|amethyst> gammafunk: no clue, but I doubt the stuff is updated 18:34:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:35:02 ah, he might not even have the recent js fix then 18:35:12 I can just use debugging tool to see 18:35:50 -!- panicbit has quit [Quit: panicbit] 18:36:03 Medar: looks nice 18:36:05 <|amethyst> Medar: does item.subtype give you what you want? 18:36:18 <|amethyst> Medar: l_item_do_subtype in C++ 18:36:25 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:36:52 that gives "ring of protection from cold" 18:36:52 <|amethyst> oh, no, it includes "ring of" 18:36:59 that's not the problem 18:37:07 I want the "rC+" 18:37:10 <|amethyst> aha 18:37:59 item.ego_type_terse does that for armours and weapons 18:38:22 <|amethyst> hm, could expand that 18:38:34 I could just commit that diff, but at some point it's not going to get updated 18:38:37 <|amethyst> but _jewellery_base_ability_string doesn't include rC and rF for some reason 18:38:55 is it ego type? I guess it is 18:39:04 <|amethyst> aha 18:39:45 <|amethyst> it doesn't include rC+ because that is covered by artefact_desc_properties -> _populate_jewel_intrinsic_artps 18:39:56 <|amethyst> hrm 18:40:08 oh, didn't see that one 18:41:07 question is what breaks if ego_type_string adds jewellery support 18:46:31 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:53:37 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:54:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:40 -!- taichi is now known as Guest31618 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:24 -!- Guest31618 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:19:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:24:12 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:54 what's this change? 19:24:54 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:24:57 !messages 19:24:58 (1/1) DrKe said (1d 16h 5m 17s ago): nice 19:25:24 i'm actually tracking crawl official webtileschanges fwiw, just with a small patchset on top of minor bug fixes 19:25:34 well, "tracking" 19:26:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:28:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31:02 yeah, if I pushed this, you'd have to cherry-pick them from head of webtiles-changes I guess 19:31:42 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:31:50 if you mean what I was talking about, the change is chat window input history and maybe name completion 19:32:27 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:35 Medar's change is making stash annotions work better for various jewelry 19:35:14 just today i searched for r[fc]\+ and was sad to see it doesn't include jewelry 19:35:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:35:55 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36:17 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:06 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41:12 -!- danharaj has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:43:31 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:48:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:57 oh yes 19:49:17 someone suggested to me today to just replace the chat window wholesale with an irc iframe 19:49:25 i am sort of tempted to do so 19:59:57 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:21 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:02:30 -!- Guest96147 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03:30 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:04:37 -!- Ektor has quit [Quit: Allez, @_+ tlm :)] 20:07:48 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:12 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1872-g214c0de: Fix a comment typo. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/214c0de30068 20:10:12 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1873-g15a0ee2: Tiles: Allow felids to evoke with alt-click. 10(77 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15a0ee20e299 20:10:12 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1874-ge687144: C++11: More range-based for loops and algorithms. 10(37 minutes ago, 39 files, 237+ 354-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6871442934c 20:34:59 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:35:39 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:01 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:39:32 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:46:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:54:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:58:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:59:07 30% code reduction or so in that c++11 commit 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:49 and that's not even all of the loops that could be made range-based 21:04:33 <|amethyst> and I got to use std::iota 21:04:48 -!- Moanerette has quit [Client Quit] 21:04:48 <|amethyst> probably should have added a comment on that 21:05:06 <|amethyst> probably not many APL programmers out there 21:05:31 heh 21:07:28 |amethyst: random question, but is the spell frequency actually used by monster at all? 21:07:31 @??orb_of_fire 21:07:32 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 8519 | Sp: b.fire (3d40) [06!sil], fireball (3d43) [06!sil], malmutate [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 21:07:41 most people are more likely to assume a golang programmer over an APL programmer if they see 'iota' 21:07:49 as in, we could simply not require specifying that 21:07:56 or I guess it could be displayed, ideally 21:09:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk: IMO it would be good if monster specs could omit the frequency to use the HD-based default (fromn normalize_spell_frquency) 21:09:56 <|amethyst> s/omn/om/ 21:10:08 <|amethyst> monster requires it because monspecs require it 21:10:30 oh, right 21:11:04 hrm, could that also extend to e.g. magical? 21:11:23 <|amethyst> that's a little more difficult because there's no good default 21:11:40 right, a particular monster will tend to have a specific value it uses 21:11:46 <|amethyst> could try to infer it from the monster's existing spell list, but it might not have one, or it might have spells of different types 21:11:56 <|amethyst> s/existing/default/ 21:12:26 I guess you could have a flag or something for the default, but that sounds like a step backwards 21:13:57 -!- ```dsk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:10 <|amethyst> could make the default something like: same as first default spell slot if that exists; otherwise MON_SPELL_DEMONIC if a demon; otherwise MON_SPELL_WIZARD if intelligent; otherwise MON_SPELL_MAGICAL 21:15:26 <|amethyst> (or even _NATURAL in the last case I guess) 21:16:53 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:33 -!- Guest96147 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:17:50 hrm, yeah 21:29:26 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:31:27 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:35:17 // This means that for a species with 130 exp apt, skill_cost_level should be 21:35:17 / the same as XL (unless the player has been drained). 21:35:26 This is a comment in the current code base 21:36:27 i'm confused why the comment refers to Tengu and not Kenku, in fact 21:37:09 indiscriminate sed? 21:38:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:17 what did people think of the skill cost display? 21:51:42 i'm working on cleaning up the patch now 21:52:33 :D 21:55:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:55:35 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:55:47 gammafunk: looking at that i'd say there's an off-by-one error somewhere 21:56:45 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:57:24 ??glyphs 21:57:24 glyphs[1/2]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 21:58:11 should the cost be in a special colour? 21:59:02 right now it's just lightgrey, which is the colour of a trained skill 21:59:38 cyan looks nice 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:39 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:14 !tell gammafunk re: bodrick's PR, i think there's an off-by-one error somewhere; i don't see the artifacts on his screenshots so maybe it's a build-difference thing 22:05:15 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 22:05:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:06:35 !tell gammafunk he divides each tile into 9 rectangles; the weird little lines you're seeing are (i think) caused by screwing that process up 22:06:35 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 22:07:58 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:10:54 wheals: do you have a screenshot? 22:12:02 http://i.imgur.com/xw3q7OF.png?1 22:13:08 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:13:13 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 22:14:37 ontoclasm: it seems to depend on which tile 22:14:37 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 22:14:52 but yeah I noticed weird artifacts on hell vestibul floor tiles 22:15:07 was going to see if it was a thing in his branch only 22:15:39 ontoclasm: but what I mean is, this effect is not terribly noticable on other wall tiles; just the light ones with not much texture 22:20:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:41 ontoclasm: too garish? http://i.imgur.com/1DTSWer.png 22:21:45 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:08 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:23:11 ontoclasm: (sec, fixing that missing space there) 22:24:43 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:27:56 gammafunk: yeah, but it shouldn't exist at all 22:28:16 if you look at his, there's no bright lines; yours have them everywhere, they're just usually hard to see 22:28:27 my guess is it's a rounding error 22:29:16 wheals: maybe dark cyan 22:29:41 right now it looks like it's more important than anything else on the page 22:30:02 good idea 22:36:14 http://i.imgur.com/mSh1MZ7.png 22:36:39 the phrasing is a little awkward but i'm not sure how to improve it 22:37:01 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:39:32 nice, &s crashes the game for me 22:39:46 probably unrelated 22:41:15 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:44:03 wheals: maybe just "The relative cost of raising each skill is in cyan." 22:44:14 the rest seems like overkill 22:45:38 it can be in the manual if people need more info 22:45:49 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:48:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:49:25 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:53:24 03gerbias02 {wheals} 07* 0.17-a0-1875-gb10e7a2: Initial commit of relative level cost display. 10(2 days ago, 5 files, 73+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b10e7a28c583 22:53:24 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1876-gaa1e9db: Clean up skill cost patch. 10(70 minutes ago, 3 files, 25+ 34-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aa1e9db28005 22:53:24 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1877-gf4270f4: Improve help/display for skill cost. 10(26 minutes ago, 2 files, 14+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f4270f4f5b58 22:55:17 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:55:19 i swear people are generally unaware of the manual 22:55:56 oh sure 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:09 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:07:47 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:30 I'd suggest matching the singular/plural of the two color highlight messages, "is in cyan" vs "are in blue" 23:18:52 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:21:34 <|amethyst> hm 23:22:21 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:58 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:02 <|amethyst> I wonder whether it should show the cost for a whole level, or the cost to hit the next level 23:23:12 <|amethyst> I guess that was probably discussed already 23:24:24 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:25:06 -!- Athaboros has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:26:31 <|amethyst> The current behaviour is fairly reasonable for <= 26.0 (maybe adding "by a full level" to the help), but it's kind of questionable when you are at 26.9 23:30:27 -!- Lebbon has quit [Quit: Lebbon] 23:30:43 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:32:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1878-g743d182: Round, not truncate, three-digit skill cost ratios. 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/743d1826282f 23:32:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1879-ged43295: Rename some magic 27s. 10(22 minutes ago, 3 files, 30+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed432957231b 23:32:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1880-gacf7e67: Fix spacing and bracing. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/acf7e6780c4b 23:32:46 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:33:58 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Maurice the Sneak (L6 OpWz of Fedhas), blasted by Ijyb (wand of cold) on D:6 on 2011-09-08 19:33:01, with 478 points after 6913 turns and 0:22:12. 23:41:32 <|amethyst> err 23:41:36 <|amethyst> !lg porpoise 23:41:36 901. porpoise the Basher (L10 MiFi of Qazlal), mangled by Snorg on D:10 on 2015-09-21 03:39:25, with 6888 points after 9850 turns and 0:54:47. 23:41:43 <|amethyst> !lg porpoise -log 23:41:44 901. porpoise, XL10 MiFi, T:9850: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/porpoise/morgue-porpoise-20150921-033925.txt 23:42:52 <|amethyst> !source mon-death.cc:524 23:42:52 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#l524 23:42:57 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:43:56 <|amethyst> !source mons_is_or_was_unique 23:43:56 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#l1429 23:46:10 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:12 <|amethyst> !lm porpoise uniq=maurice 23:47:14 35. [2015-09-21 03:12:15] porpoise the Basher (L9 MiFi of Qazlal) killed Maurice on turn 7908. (D:8) 23:50:00 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:50:43 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 23:52:31 -!- Guest96147 is now known as Zilis 23:53:06 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:10 -!- Monkaria has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55:56 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:45 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:56:45 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend]