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I blanked the passwords of a few cpo accounts with bad names 01:41:06 (would have let that one slide though) 01:43:45 -!- jspengler has quit [] 01:47:49 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:52:43 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 40.0.3/20150826023504]] 01:54:39 New branch created: pull/112 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/112 01:54:39 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/112 * 0.17-a0-1838-gf35ebe9: Give minotaurs growing horns. 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f35ebe978f90 01:59:44 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/111 * 0.17-a0-1838-gf0de645: Mention branch rune on player entry. 10(16 hours ago, 6 files, 20+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0de64516ebc 01:59:55 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:08 if anyone has balance feedback on the mi change it would be appreciated. I played through d1-5 a few times and felt a bit weaker, but it was probbably as much placebo as reality 02:05:28 I'm not really about increasing slot restrictions 02:05:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:09:38 It's also pretty annoying to have a species that always goes from hat->no hat in every game 02:11:13 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: g'night!] 02:12:29 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:13:48 My goal was actually the first thing: full slot restriction for Mi. But adding horns 3 at the start felt OP, so I made the mutation grow 02:16:04 i dont know that a miniscule nerf to mi is really worth the annoyance of the hat -> no hat thing, yeah 02:22:41 I think that the "melee" race should be able to wear armours 02:23:20 4-slot races are also super annoying with ash, but that's not really their fault 02:23:49 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:28:28 -!- doy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:28:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32:55 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:16 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:35:00 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:38:32 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39:12 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:43:23 I guess if others agree I'll change my proposal to 'horns 3 all the time' 02:44:42 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:45:36 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:33 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48:52 I don't think horns 3 is a good idea for them either 02:48:57 makes them even stronger xl1 02:51:49 "no helmet with horns 2"? 02:51:52 *hat 02:53:15 Well what is the problem we're trying to solve here 02:56:46 -!- Ahrin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10:19 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:11:51 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1838-g891d947 (34) 03:12:14 restrict Mi itemisation 03:13:28 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:13:56 -!- inire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:15 this seems similar to randomly giving DE -4 Air skill 03:16:41 Yeah I don't see mi having a hat slot as a problem in need of solving 03:22:56 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25:34 I was thinking about it when reading the gdd thread that touched on HO vs Mi, and thought it would help differentiate those two species a little more. I don't think hat slot is a question of "problem" or not in terms of major gameplay impact 03:26:34 the invo, dodging, magic, and weapons situations make them feel pretty different already 03:26:42 also beogh 03:27:26 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:29:35 yeah orcs have this great invo apt and their spells apts are totally fine apart from spc 03:30:14 while minotaur is horrible at spells 03:30:25 and invo is not particularly good 03:30:51 just because you can play a ho like a mi and they are sort of like a worse mi isnt really a problem 03:30:52 not to mention mi auxes are strong early game 03:30:57 i mean you can say the same thing about hu vs mi 03:36:27 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:36:40 -!- phalm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:41:02 ok, i'm convinced 03:42:03 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:42:56 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:43:51 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:44:19 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:49:46 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:57:54 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:16:25 Lasty_: interesting query from bcadren if you have't seen: !lm * Ru s=sacrifice /won o=-% 04:17:25 i am very disappointed that no one won with handclaws or handhands 04:17:54 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1839-g3e330ad: Fix a monster description typo (DarkTwinge) 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3e330adc6da3 04:26:23 =/ 04:27:23 how do slime creatures decide when to split? 04:32:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32:28 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:32 one interesting thing about that chequers, there are some sacrifices that I'm more likely to take later than earlier. the ones I take to finish necessarily have a much higher winrate 04:36:11 i do something where after i have 5*, i wait for negligible things 04:36:29 like -10% mp 04:36:34 -2 to a stat etc 04:36:37 yeah, that too 04:36:38 rather than taking something major 04:36:43 try not to go over by too much 04:37:04 but early I'm looking for big things to get started fast 04:37:09 i mean it won't let you overshoot by too much, but it's mostly that i am satisfied with what i can do then 04:37:13 and would rather not take a hit 04:37:18 just to have apoc do 10% more dmg 04:37:26 like something significant 04:37:48 so like -2 int is gonna be a good sac for wins, since i am already established 04:37:55 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:37:58 early on i would take hand or armo 04:37:59 r 04:38:00 or something 04:38:10 -2 int isn't going to help me 04:38:16 so yeah 04:42:48 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:44:08 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1840-g87820a2: Don't imply that flying skulls make additional noise (DarkTwinge) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87820a2c325e 04:44:27 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:45:25 -!- sanka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:48:49 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 04:54:56 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:59:48 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:45 -!- Tags has quit [Quit: Tags] 05:06:32 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:36 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:24:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:31:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:46 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:55:09 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:08 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 05:57:34 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:15 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:00:32 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:45 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:31:01 -!- PsyMar has quit [*.net *.split] 06:31:01 -!- roxton has quit [*.net *.split] 06:31:01 -!- rast has quit [*.net *.split] 06:32:20 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:10 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:40:44 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:45:07 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:09 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:46:58 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:52:03 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:56:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:59:16 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12:23 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:12:23 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:15:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:15:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:44 !tell chequers yeah, that is it interesting. been a while since I checked win rate by sacrifice. Sac hand seems to have fallen down in the rankings a bit since last time, IIRC. Sac Experience and Sac Health are suprisingly high. 07:24:45 Lasty: OK, I'll let chequers know. 07:32:03 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 07:45:11 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:48:19 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:50:28 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:51:35 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:54:59 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:06 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05:15 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:22 -!- orbekk has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 08:14:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:17:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:26:32 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 08:37:06 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:20 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:40:50 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:41:30 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit 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br.end=snake s=xl 09:30:06 56151 milestones for * (br.end=snake): 12812x 17, 10305x 16, 9571x 18, 5687x 15, 5096x 19, 2737x 20, 2604x 14, 1896x 21, 1452x 22, 996x 23, 778x 13, 757x 24, 472x 25, 340x 27, 309x 26, 219x 12, 83x 11, 21x 10, 5x 9, 5x 8, 5x 7, 6 09:30:13 <|amethyst> !lm * br.end=swamp s=xl 09:30:14 57110 milestones for * (br.end=swamp): 12899x 17, 12698x 16, 8794x 18, 5825x 15, 4785x 19, 2593x 20, 2244x 14, 1810x 21, 1308x 22, 1056x 23, 739x 24, 679x 13, 530x 25, 459x 27, 317x 26, 226x 12, 114x 11, 23x 10, 5x 9, 2x 6, 3, 8, 7, 4 09:30:27 <|amethyst> !lm * rune urunes=1 s=xl 09:30:27 Unknown field: urunes 09:30:31 <|amethyst> !lm * rune nrunes=1 s=xl 09:30:32 Unknown field: nrunes 09:30:34 <|amethyst> !lm * rune nrune=1 s=xl 09:30:39 90052 milestones for * (rune nrune=1): 26163x 17, 18946x 18, 13882x 16, 8413x 19, 4177x 15, 4031x 20, 3760x 27, 2461x 21, 1861x 22, 1518x 14, 1401x 23, 1099x 24, 769x 25, 643x 13, 531x 26, 288x 12, 58x 11, 20x 10, 9x 9, 9x 8, 4x 1, 2x 7, 2x 2, 2x 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13:32:03 <|amethyst> well 13:32:08 <|amethyst> in practice it's usually me 13:32:45 <|amethyst> chequers: it's stuck trying to download https://crawl.project357.org//dcss-milestones-0.16 for three days now 13:33:31 <|amethyst> killed that wget process, let's see if it carries on without requiring a restart 13:34:06 <|amethyst> no, "mysql server has gone away" 13:34:52 <|amethyst> okay, but no rollback in progress so it shouldn't take too long to start back up 13:35:12 maybe rsync next time? 13:35:21 <|amethyst> ? 13:35:37 I have no idea how it works but I wouldn't use plain wget 13:35:57 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:04 <|amethyst> I don't have an account on CPO, and I wouldn't have a reason to expect ssh to have this problem any less than https 13:36:45 <|amethyst> it uses wget -c to continue a download, so it's not fetching the whole thing each time 13:36:55 ah 13:37:05 its probably one big file also 13:37:10 so rsync isn't going to help 13:39:09 <|amethyst> well, two big files per version per server 13:39:19 <|amethyst> rsync does have --append and even --append-verify 13:40:17 I would imagine that not being a ton better than wget continue 13:40:28 probably same speed 13:41:01 <|amethyst> depends on compression settings of the two protocols, but yeah 13:42:34 Supposedly some networks give higher priority to http like data. I can't recall if it was Tom's hardware or who did the benchmarking 13:43:00 <|amethyst> (we don't actually use any Accept-Encoding: headers in the wgets, so rsync -z (or over a compressed ssh tunnel) would be faster in that respect 13:43:09 like ftp vs http and sftp vs https... the http/https wins 13:43:14 <|amethyst> particularly since the data is highly compressible) 13:43:42 <|amethyst> anyway, the downloads take very little time, except when for some reason it hangs and doesn't even time out the connection 13:44:11 <|amethyst> wget is set to timeout on DNS, connect, and read 13:44:28 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:44:34 unintentional slowloris? 13:45:06 I was programming in rust the other day and remember reading how difficult it is to get timeout correct for tcp 13:45:27 even non blocking loops still get stuck sometimes 13:46:42 -!- Maelson has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:48:05 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49:36 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:54:16 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:55:47 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:31 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:36 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:04:50 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:14:14 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:25:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:27:07 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:30 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:46:57 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:49:34 -!- somebody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:42 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:27 -!- DizzySkin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:59:08 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:23 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:00 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:04:45 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:12:59 -!- read has quit [Quit: bbl] 15:13:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:44 -!- lgft has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:14:04 -!- rax_ is now known as rax 15:14:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:16:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:29:23 Extra line breaks following note entry in log 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9956 by archaeo 15:34:56 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$ 15:34:57 273. asshole, XL21 GrFi, T:40344 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:35:20 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$:cancel 15:35:21 273. asshole, XL21 GrFi, T:40344 (milestone) cancel requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:35:29 .moon name=copt -tv:channel=moon:>$ 15:35:29 4. copt, XL18 SpEn, T:49928 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:36:11 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:36:56 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:39:25 -!- ZChris13_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:41:59 haha 15:42:38 .gfmapl -log 15:42:38 41. copt, XL19 SpEn, T:51452: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/copt/morgue-copt-20150915-132903.txt 15:47:45 Xenophilius (L27 GrFi) ASSERT(is_valid_feature_type(feat)) in 'feature.cc' at line 227 failed. (Geh:6) 15:48:33 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:48:40 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:52:35 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:57:44 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:58:01 even after nerfing juggernaut undead, they still get way more kills than juggernauts 15:58:10 Partly because they show up in zigs 15:58:29 and no doubt partly because it's harder to see them coming 15:58:53 Lasty_: you mean because the glyph/tile isnt' as noticeable? 15:59:00 yeah 15:59:02 exactly 15:59:10 especially in say necromancer groups 15:59:12 FR 15:59:12 "three zombies come into view" doesn't help much when one is a juggernaut zombie 15:59:14 yeah 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:11 !shrike 16:00:32 !shrikekills 16:00:33 289. Starve the Warrior (L22 TeGl of Makhleb), slain by a caustic shrike simulacrum (led by a necromancer) on Depths:2 (grunt_house_of_mirrors) on 2015-09-14 12:04:40, with 353982 points after 54779 turns and 3:02:49. 16:00:38 good job, shrikes. 16:00:44 !shrikekills s=killer 16:00:44 289 games for * (killer=~caustic): 221x a caustic shrike, 17x a caustic shrike zombie, 15x a caustic shrike simulacrum, 10x a caustic shrike skeleton, 7x a caustic shrike (glowing shapeshifter), 4x a caustic bee, 3x a spectral caustic shrike, 3x Gastronok the caustic shrike, 3x a caustic shrike (shapeshifter), a caustic shrike (illusionary), Gastronok the caustic shrike (shapeshifter), Saint Roka ... 16:01:04 hahaha 16:01:13 Saint Roka the caustic shrike is a new one to me 16:01:16 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 16:01:29 also Arachne 16:01:43 so, why is this more of a problem for jugs than for other powerful monsters? 16:01:51 !shrikekills thisweek killer=caustic_shrike 16:01:52 No games for * (killer=~caustic thisweek killer=caustic_shrike). 16:02:00 amalloy: because juggernauts are spikier 16:02:01 like depths has a lot of scary stuff, and most of it isn't that scary as a zombie 16:02:03 !shrikekills thisweek 16:02:04 1. Starve the Warrior (L22 TeGl of Makhleb), slain by a caustic shrike simulacrum (led by a necromancer) on Depths:2 (grunt_house_of_mirrors) on 2015-09-14 12:04:40, with 353982 points after 54779 turns and 3:02:49. 16:02:16 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:02:25 caustic shrike zombies for example lose most of their teeth 16:02:28 yeah 16:02:31 fire giant zombies can't fireball you 16:02:40 juggernaut zombies get to keep all of their tools 16:02:45 Juggernauts maintain a significant portion of their threat in zombie form 16:03:01 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:03:16 %git 16:03:16 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-1840-g87820a2: Don't imply that flying skulls make additional noise (DarkTwinge) 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87820a2c325e 16:03:34 Guess who was in that twitch chat 16:03:49 Michelle Obama? 16:04:16 So *that's* who Prez_Lady was, and why she kept telling us to eat more vegetables 16:04:32 no it was none other than Draco_Omega 16:04:48 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:08 DarkTwinge is a long time player from 0.6 who's also made a bunch of commits 16:05:08 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:38 He told me about those two errors, so I made a quick commit and was like "thanks, and look you're famous!" 16:05:53 and DO told me how DarkTwinge is already famous 16:07:14 oh, neat. IIRC n1k just ran into DO in twitch too 16:07:23 %git 0.17-a0-1838-gf35ebe9 16:07:23 07chequers02 * 0.17-a0-1838-gf35ebe9: Give minotaurs growing horns. 10(30 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f35ebe978f90 16:07:39 wait, that got pushed? 16:09:29 doesn't look like it 16:10:02 so why is it in Chei? 16:10:02 no 16:10:04 chei has all those refs 16:10:12 including those in branches 16:10:13 It has refs for all pull requests? 16:10:14 all pull requests are 16:10:16 i think 16:10:17 ahh 16:10:55 I expected github to distinguish in some way between commits that are in master and ones that aren't if you go to their url... 16:11:08 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:11:18 well given a commit, it can be in many branches 16:11:34 so it could be in master, 0.16, several others 16:11:41 sure, but it could list that or something 16:12:04 Well that's probably expensive 16:12:33 bah 16:12:35 it's expensive, yes 16:12:45 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:12:55 you can find out yourself with git log, of course :) 16:12:55 fast in one direction (the one you normally care about), painfully slow in the other (this one) 16:13:27 so would %git HEAD^{/string} be a better search than %git :/string ? 16:13:33 gammafunk: yeah, if I'm at a computer where I have the repo checked out 16:13:48 rchandra: yeah, since :/ searches any branch 16:14:02 and HEAD will always mean trunk to chei 16:14:03 rchandra, I usually end up with the HEAD^ one anyway since I end up looking for the next instance... 16:14:14 thanks. yeah, that too, geekosaur :) 16:14:25 there's also gitgrep 16:14:28 also see %gitgrep 16:14:30 heh 16:14:36 !gitgrep 2 minotaur 16:14:36 %git HEAD^{/minotaur}^^{/minotaur} 16:14:36 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-3640-g203e14a: Uncapitalise the minotaur 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/203e14a3024c 16:14:42 oh ! not % whoops 16:15:10 !gitgrep 1 minotaur 16:15:10 %git HEAD^{/minotaur} 16:15:10 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-396-g6e4b463: Adjust some Depths spawns 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 7+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e4b4639c8fd 16:16:16 %git master^{/DarkTwinge} 16:16:16 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-1840-g87820a2: Don't imply that flying skulls make additional noise (DarkTwinge) 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87820a2c325e 16:16:30 can use master if you don't like typing CAPS 16:21:29 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:27:10 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:30:24 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:36:34 whoa, draco omega showed up in a twitch chat? 16:40:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:40:29 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42:08 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:42:45 -!- Mottikins is now known as FaMott 16:43:50 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:44:21 weird, you can place explore_horizon, but it doesn't seem to do anything 16:46:09 what does it do in theory? 16:49:38 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:54:09 -!- khearn1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:54:15 -!- khearn has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:54:25 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:40 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:55:17 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:57:54 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:02 The build passed. (pull - 87820a2 #3185 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/80508447 16:59:02 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:46 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:49 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:11:33 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:41 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:40 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:22:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:26:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:26:54 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:47 gammafunk: do flying skulls actually not make additional noise? if so, i don't think 87820a2c325e is enough: i thought they made a bunch of noise despite never reading their description, because of "The flying skull gives a hideous shriek!" 17:29:19 Yeah, that's monster speach I guess 17:31:59 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:32:53 amalloy: ./dat/database/shout.txt:SOUND:@The_monster@ gives a hideous shriek! 17:33:00 so it's apparently when they're shouting at you 17:33:10 in which case they are indeed making noise 17:33:10 -!- Utis` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:28 But that's just normal monster shouting 17:34:23 in which case it sounds to me like their description was fine-ish? they, unlike just about every other undead, do emit shrieks 17:35:34 It doesn't sound good to me, no 17:35:54 It's basically that they only make noise when you wake them up 17:36:05 and I think other undead make noise when you wake them up 17:36:51 btw, does jory make noise in-game when he dies? 17:37:06 i know the flavor has him screaming and exploding 17:37:34 but last time i killed him margery and asterion came hauling ass from off-screen at me 17:37:49 so i was wondering if he made that much noise, or if i did, or if it was just my bad luck 17:38:10 (it was spin cycle, so they could have easily just been nearby and heard the combat or been wandering by) 17:38:45 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 17:38:59 No, there'd not be additional noise from his death I think 17:39:03 gammafunk: zombies, skeletons, mummies, skeletal warriors... 17:39:06 Noise from what you killed him with, certainly 17:39:40 sure. i didn't do anything especially loud, but if they were already close they probably would have heard me banging away with my big weapon and heavy armor 17:40:05 i was just curious 17:41:59 amalloy: curse skull, curse toe, lich, ancient lich, revenant... 17:43:15 gammafunk: yes, there certainly are lots that make noise. flying skull feels a lot closer to a skeleton, to me, than to the others. i have in the past been surprised by the ones that do make noise: "really? a curse toe moans? how does it even do that?" 17:43:38 And even so I don't think it's helpful to have the fact that they shout when you wake them up hilighted in the description 17:43:41 we don't do this for other monsters 17:43:45 maybe could go in xv 17:43:47 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:44:48 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:45:00 Generally we describe special monster abilities to some degree in the monster description when that's a very notable feature, and I don't think we even always do it then 17:46:31 I'd be ok with maybe showing something reasonable like "It may make noise when alerted" in xv for any monster that's not S_SILENT 17:46:46 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:47:30 -!- Tags has quit [Quit: Tags] 17:50:28 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:56:48 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:58:36 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:10 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1840-g87820a2 (34) 18:07:54 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:08:08 -!- ibar has quit [Client Quit] 18:08:38 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:09:09 other way around might be better 18:09:34 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:17:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:19:32 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:21:48 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:23:05 looks like msvc compilation has been broken since at least november 18:23:46 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:23:56 when sdl got updated 18:24:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:25:29 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:27 -!- jakub_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:27:30 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:27:41 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 18:28:43 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:32:11 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:16 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:43 i've got all the contribs compiling again at least, but i'm getting a bunch of errors when compiling crawl.vcxproj relating to DEF_BITFIELD 18:39:59 -!- caricature has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:44:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:06 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 40.0.3/20150826023504]] 18:46:29 |amethyst: the line next if !/\./ and !/util\//; in checkwhite was causing me some confusion 18:46:49 since I was using it in my dcss-rc repo and it was skipping my script 18:47:05 I guess there could be an option for that 18:48:21 perhaps I'll just move it to a util dir 18:50:49 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:50:58 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:51:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:51:49 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:21 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:54:23 -!- lobf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:00 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:55:00 -!- lobf_ is now known as lobf 18:55:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:51 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:07:50 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:10:03 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 19:10:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:11:00 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:46 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: probably that's mostly to keep from mangling Makefiles? 19:11:55 <|amethyst> and binaries 19:12:29 Yeah, binaries would be a problem 19:13:15 -!- mibe_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:13:35 |amethyst: could we use Perl's -B ? 19:14:25 Might slow it down a lot though 19:14:31 <|amethyst> what's -B? 19:15:17 |amethyst: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/899206/how-does-perl-know-a-file-is-binary 19:15:28 oh perldoc -f -B 19:15:28 <|amethyst> oh 19:15:32 is probably better to read 19:15:47 <|amethyst> I was looking for a command-line option :) 19:18:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:18:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:19:07 <|amethyst> gammafunk: would also have to keep it out of saves/ and rcs/, and away from tags and Makefile, but otherwise that could probably work 19:19:55 <|amethyst> ah, we handle Makefile already 19:20:25 |amethyst: I'm not sure why wget would have been stuck that long -- did killing wget fix the problem? 19:20:25 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:21:19 <|amethyst> chequers: yeah, though the mysql socket had timed out so I had to restart the scoring scripts 19:21:19 |amethyst: the fact wget didn't timeout is a bit weird, since the server was restarted in the past three days 19:21:25 <|amethyst> hmm 19:21:30 !messages 19:21:31 (1/1) Lasty said (11h 56m 45s ago): yeah, that is it interesting. been a while since I checked win rate by sacrifice. Sac hand seems to have fallen down in the rankings a bit since last time, IIRC. Sac Experience and Sac Health are suprisingly high. 19:21:43 Lasty_: and sac resistance is suicidal 19:22:31 anyway, if there's something I can change on my side to help with scoring script downloads, let me know 19:27:54 <|amethyst> chequers: I have no idea why it's happening... it's rarely enough (maybe once every few months) that I can't really reproduce it for debugging, not that I'd really want to debug wget 19:31:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:31:41 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Client Quit] 19:32:14 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:27 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:12 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 19:38:39 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:43 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:55:02 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:55:27 chequers: My one sac resistance char died late in the game from some physical-only threat... 19:55:34 chequers: I'm still waiting to get the chance to try again 19:56:55 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:05:14 just find a resistance shield 20:05:18 and you good 20:05:26 it becomes sac hand except you get a free shield 20:05:28 and ring 20:06:01 its not like they are uber-rare or anything 20:06:08 though once i found 2 resist bucklers in the same game 20:06:12 -!- Tags has quit [Quit: Tags] 20:07:10 ??sacrifice_resistance 20:07:10 sacrifice resistance[1/1]: A Ru sacrifice that gives {rF- rC-}. Worth 70 base piety. 20:07:27 Yeah that doesn't seem all that bad tbh 20:07:31 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:34 I guess you do have to do it fairly early 20:07:56 oh it's both rF- and rC- 20:08:16 that's a little rough 20:11:03 I took it on d2 my last Ru game, was pretty happy 20:12:27 early on there's not a lot of elemental threats, right? it seems like the kind of sac you don't mind early but might cause issues in the midgame 20:12:54 it just can be fairly problematic to account for 2 neg resists while also being able to get resists yourself 20:13:06 without the proper loot drops you cant really do it 20:13:24 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:16:25 <|amethyst> amalloy: probably orc wizards are the biggest early one, maybe ice beasts but those are melee only 20:17:09 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 20:17:10 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:17:22 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:17:46 -!- Silas is now known as Guest90701 20:18:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:21:37 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:37 -!- Doesnt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:38 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:38 -!- daiy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:38 -!- ChongLi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:38 -!- andrewhl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:40 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:41 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:21:41 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:21:42 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:21:42 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:21:43 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:45 -!- andrewhl_ is now known as andrewhl 20:23:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:01 -!- tabstorm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 20:25:36 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 20:27:18 there are a lot of jiyva-related bugs on mantis 20:28:51 are they all the same shapeshifter one 20:28:51 MarvinPA: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 20:30:25 huh apparently $ doesn't work in tells or something 20:30:50 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:05 " (1/1) minqmay said (3h 51m 33s ago): also i recently got a cpu so i can finally run the damn game at a (barely) playable speed" 20:31:10 <|amethyst> !tell MarvinPA $nick 20:31:11 |amethyst: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 20:31:17 "a cpu" is meant to be "a $400 cpu" 20:31:18 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:31:22 !messages 20:31:22 (1/1) |amethyst said (12s ago): |amethyst 20:31:26 <|amethyst> ah 20:31:28 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:37 <|amethyst> expanded when it is issued I guess 20:31:44 <|amethyst> !cmd !tell 20:31:44 donald gozag speech FR: "You're fired!" 20:31:45 Built-in: !tell => https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/commands/message/tell.pl 20:31:45 ah 20:32:23 Summon Greater Demon: summon pool ratios skewed on most pandemonium levels 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9957 by orbisvicis 20:33:50 !cmd !tell 20:33:50 Built-in: !tell => https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/commands/message/tell.pl 20:34:01 hm, i feel like that's maybe intentional if it's the monster spell, but not if it's the player one? 20:34:24 !cmd !tell 20:34:24 Built-in: !tell => https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/commands/message/tell.pl 20:35:57 -!- MakMorn has quit [*.net *.split] 20:35:58 -!- buppy has quit [*.net *.split] 20:35:59 -!- murphy_slaw has quit [*.net *.split] 20:35:59 -!- wmbt has quit [*.net *.split] 20:36:00 -!- jbenedetto has quit [*.net *.split] 20:36:00 -!- Cerpin has quit [*.net *.split] 20:36:00 -!- knu has quit [*.net *.split] 20:36:01 -!- jefus has quit [*.net *.split] 20:36:01 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [*.net *.split] 20:36:01 -!- xtwv has quit [*.net *.split] 20:36:01 -!- rax has quit [*.net *.split] 20:37:05 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:15 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: yeah, I think as a player spell there's no reason to make it behave like shadow creatures in one branch 20:37:42 oh, i guess i should unresolve it then? 20:37:43 <|amethyst> summon_any_demon would need a flag 20:37:47 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 20:38:22 <|amethyst> "Intentional, don't ask me why" isn't usually a good reason to resolve something, no 20:38:32 wheals: i mean maybe it was originally intentional for the player spell too but probably it should change if so :P 20:38:34 <|amethyst> otherwise you end up reopening it months later 20:38:39 friendly summons can only attack stuff you can see, right? but s2s'd snakes don't have that restriction - why is that? 20:38:50 <|amethyst> because they're not summoned 20:39:03 fake summons are special 20:39:23 <|amethyst> wasn't S2S once tmut/sum ? 20:39:36 long before that restriction 20:39:39 hmm, maybe in the very distant past 20:39:40 <|amethyst> yeah 20:39:44 <|amethyst> before my time 20:39:54 <|amethyst> %git b5cfd013 20:39:54 07due02 * 0.8.0-a0-4621-gb5cfd01: Reimplement Sticks to Snakes as a pure transmutation. 10(4 years, 8 months ago, 9 files, 63+ 36-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5cfd013cba9 20:40:10 <|amethyst> "This will be extended upon for homunculi!" 20:40:14 i think i was just barely around for that 20:40:15 oh haha yes 20:40:17 <|amethyst> rip homunculi 20:40:17 -!- Doesnty is now known as Doesnt 20:40:19 i remember homunculi 20:40:38 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:38 <|amethyst> I remember seeing the various enums for it 20:40:38 or at least the long-standing plans and unused code for them :P 20:40:42 <|amethyst> years later :) 20:40:47 <|amethyst> yeah 20:41:06 <|amethyst> we managed to do something with all the lovecraftian placeholder enums at least 20:41:18 <|amethyst> a great example of name-first design 20:41:23 hah, yeah 20:42:27 <|amethyst> any opinions on #9827 btw? 20:42:46 <|amethyst> specifically, my idea of making KILL_YOU_CONF work like YOU_FAULTLESS 20:43:19 <|amethyst> and give either credit-but-no-blame, or XP-but-no-conducts 20:44:01 <|amethyst> (still not sure what the best way to implement that would be; the whole system of killers and agents and kill categories is a mess) 20:44:42 mm it's v. confusing, that sounds sensible though 20:45:41 i think there are probably some fedhas tickets that could be resolved with the recent change to protect from explosions, btw 20:45:48 <|amethyst> I guess there's the question of confusing a holy into taking a swim in lava (does that still work for nonintelligents?) 20:46:50 #8047 for example, though i haven't tested 20:48:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:51:48 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:52:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:45 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 20:52:56 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 20:53:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:25 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:53 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:10 -!- orbisvicis has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:30 -!- orbisvicis has left ##crawl-dev 21:19:49 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:20:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:36:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:21 -!- danharaj has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:49:36 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52:15 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:38 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:41 -!- Bamboomancer_ is now known as Bamboomancer 22:03:27 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:36 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:03:56 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:43 -!- cjm has quit [] 22:10:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:11:52 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:11 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:20:29 -!- caricature has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:32 -!- elderviii has quit [Client Quit] 22:24:02 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:05 -!- debo has quit [*.net *.split] 22:28:05 -!- jspengler has quit [*.net *.split] 22:28:06 -!- jbenedetto has quit [*.net *.split] 22:28:06 -!- wmbt has quit [*.net *.split] 22:30:09 -!- Guest90701 is now known as fazisi 22:35:07 -!- Pacra__ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:56 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:56 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:39:07 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:43:56 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:44:22 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:51:40 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:56:13 -!- Bamboomancer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:57:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:13 -!- Karasu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:10:12 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:10:25 -!- AlphaQ_ is now known as AlphaQ 23:10:55 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:11:29 -!- phalm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:15:04 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:19:12 -!- AlphaQ_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:19:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:20:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:26 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:27:56 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:31:58 -!- Nylidian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36:07 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:40:03 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:43 -!- captainkraft has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:40:54 -!- agentgt has quit [] 23:46:06 -!- jspengler has quit [] 23:49:46 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:51:12 -!- Tags has quit [Quit: Tags] 23:51:31 -!- rax_ is now known as rax 23:59:09 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1840-g87820a2 (34)