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00:23:34 <Grunt> gammafunk: devsprint wasn't my idea; I just nudged it along a bit
00:24:10 <Grunt> (the sprint that I was going to implement eventually was μcrawl, which was Crawl where every branch was one floor)
00:26:21 <|amethyst> but sprint_mu is already taken!
00:27:18 <|amethyst> sprint_nu clearly
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00:28:39 <gammafunk> maybe after that we implement Ωcrawl
00:28:44 <gammafunk> has literally everything
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00:37:10 <Grunt> oh, I found it
00:37:14 <Grunt> http://sprunge.us/CgPh
00:39:02 <gammafunk> hehe, "Various handling for polymorphing the iron giant.
00:39:03 <gammafunk> "
00:39:30 <Grunt> that took forever to get right
00:39:31 <Grunt> :)
00:39:37 <Grunt> !send gammafunk the fire giant
00:39:37 <Sequell> Sending the fire giant to gammafunk.
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00:42:07 * gammafunk is burned terribly!
00:43:18 <Grunt> I found this, too
00:43:22 <Grunt> http://sprunge.us/XSVc
00:44:45 <Grunt> (that one probably doesn't compile; I think there was a change in the mstruct which that doesn't reflect)
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03:29:25 <Bodrick> !tell gammafunk i moved the colour definitions to #defines in cd6f890a - i can change the LIGHT_MAX_VALUE enum later today though
03:29:26 <Sequell> Bodrick: OK, I'll let gammafunk know.
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05:39:42 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/110 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/110
05:39:42 <Cheibriados> 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/110 * 0.17-a0-1794-ge2130cd: Cap the Blink mutation at one level 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e2130cd4bbfc
05:39:42 <Cheibriados> 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/110 * 0.17-a0-1795-g39c61ee: Reduce fail rate of mutated Blink 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39c61eeb1fe6
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10:01:04 <gammafunk> Bodrick: Thanks, I'm trying to get some feedback on the result from e.g. ontoclasm. Not sure if this will make 0.17 or if it will see testing in 0.18. We appreciate the work to improve Tiles graphics
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10:07:31 <wheals> we do?
10:07:45 <wheals> are you the traitor who plays tiles? :P
10:10:20 <Bodrick> gammafunk: no probs, i'm happy to make any more changes if they're needed
10:11:20 <gammafunk> ...wow
10:11:23 <gammafunk> !gamesby wheals
10:11:24 <Sequell> wheals has played 3482 games, between 2012-07-11 00:24:00 and 2015-08-30 19:01:43, won 24 (0.7%), high score 13167153, total score 101480668, total turns 25887417, play-time/day 1:03:14, total time 50d+8:00:04.
10:11:27 <gammafunk> !gamesby .
10:11:28 <Sequell> gammafunk has played 3307 games, between 2012-04-26 17:48:23 and 2015-09-11 06:03:57, won 33 (1.0%), high score 24084354, total score 164516099, total turns 17841184, play-time/day 2:02:19, total time 104d+19:45:59.
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10:11:37 <gammafunk> wheals has actually played *more* games than me
10:11:46 <wheals> i'm in like the top 20
10:11:48 <wheals> !lg * s=name
10:11:56 <Sequell> 4621466 games for *: 106016x Sebi, 40591x ew, 22336x Meow, 19338x syban, 12804x pigah, 12641x heteroy, 12372x TGW, 11752x dscm, 11162x Neil, 11070x LogicNinja, 10940x firemonkey, 10454x KiloByte, 9960x adamzap, 9687x 4thArraOfDagon, 9320x Elynae, 9068x Xiberia, 9025x soul, 8980x phyphor, 8316x BirdoPrey, 8194x silentsnack, 8057x Ivo, 8043x Tenaya, 7986x qtip, 7876x Sbamiri, 7805x Fieros, 7269x Thr...
10:12:01 <wheals> !lg * !boring s=name
10:12:12 <Sequell> 3891142 games for * (!boring): 40547x ew, 10453x heteroy, 10065x Neil, 9417x LogicNinja, 9302x pigah, 9116x KiloByte, 8950x phyphor, 8881x 4thArraOfDagon, 8140x silentsnack, 7405x BirdoPrey, 7003x dscm, 6761x soul, 6700x jejorda2, 6647x Elynae, 6523x Nexos, 6207x Tenaya, 6099x 78291, 5998x firemonkey, 5819x crawlie, 5790x qtip, 5783x Vesto, 5584x Zermako, 5576x gw, 5563x Moose, 5533x guido, 5457x ...
10:12:13 <wheals> maybe not these days
10:12:34 <gammafunk> the funny thing is I've played twice as long realtime
10:12:40 <gammafunk> !gamesby wheals !boring
10:12:40 <Sequell> wheals (!boring) has played 3087 games, between 2012-07-11 00:34:31 and 2015-08-30 19:01:43, won 24 (0.8%), high score 13167153, total score 101430185, total turns 25628172, play-time/day 1:02:41, total time 49d+21:23:31.
10:12:53 <wheals> gammafunk: gotta go fast
10:13:27 <wheals> Bodrick: but for real, it looks super pretty :)
10:17:31 <Bodrick> thanks :)
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11:40:38 <gammafunk> &dump
11:40:38 <Buzzell> No where information for gammafunk.
11:40:39 <Sequell> http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt
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12:09:33 <gammafunk> nice: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17689&sid=3cc51c5e500d04d948e93fcbea7bb817
12:09:47 <gammafunk> another infinite gozag gold bug I guess
12:10:33 <MarvinPA> i thought that was fixed along with spectral weapons etc giving gold
12:10:36 <MarvinPA> but maybe not
12:12:47 <gammafunk> yeah, still happens
12:13:15 <MarvinPA> huh really, it looks like no-xp monsters don't get goldified from mon-death.cc
12:14:16 <MarvinPA> oh i guess the tentacle itself isn't a no-xp monster (as opposed to the segments, do they give xp?)
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12:14:31 <MarvinPA> er, gold
12:15:10 <gammafunk> MarvinPA: maybe this should be:
12:15:11 <gammafunk> bool goldify = in_good_standing(GOD_GOZAG)
12:15:11 <gammafunk> && mons_class_gives_xp(mons.type)
12:15:19 <gammafunk> but s/_class//
12:15:28 <gammafunk> and with mons
12:15:43 <MarvinPA> also how come it even gets to that bit, aren't they summons
12:15:52 <gammafunk> no they're not
12:15:59 <MarvinPA> or do they work in some weird way with the timer instead
12:16:21 <MarvinPA> anyway i can't dev right now but can take a look later if nobody else gets around to it
12:16:58 <gammafunk> ok, I'll try to fix
12:17:05 <gammafunk> it is weirder than I thought, actually
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12:24:32 <gammafunk> oh i guess it's intentional that permanent allies who die leave gold?
12:25:27 <gammafunk> hrm
12:25:45 <MarvinPA> they don't especially need to i think
12:25:55 <MarvinPA> i don't recall it being intentional
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12:28:09 <gammafunk> Well, there are some things like enemies you enslave
12:28:25 <gammafunk> If you kill them while enslaved...oh you do get xp for that don't you
12:29:24 <gammafunk> But it would be weird if your bribed allies left actual corpses, no?
12:31:25 <gammafunk> I guess it could only not goldify if mons_gives_xp(mons, &you) && not_a_gozag_bribed_ally()
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12:51:29 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/109 * 0.17-a0-1820-g2651985: Rename LIGHT_MAX_VALUE to NUM_LIGHT_SEGS 10(9 minutes ago, 5 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2651985c39be
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13:05:54 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1804-gf6433eb (34)
13:05:59 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1805-g6093636: Don't goldify corpses under Gozag for 0-XP monsters (ololoev) 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60936367408a
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13:37:37 <|amethyst> If someone has experience with custom tiles in vaults, ManiacJoe could use some help here: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=17668
13:38:19 <|amethyst> He wants to have arches in shallow water, and I suggested making the feature shallow_water but using a custom tile---but that's the limit of my knowledge
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13:45:17 <gammafunk> hrm, so this basically won't work at all in console
13:45:32 <gammafunk> the fix he needs is TILE:  D = dngn_stone_arch
13:45:44 <gammafunk> but it'll just be shallow water in console
13:45:50 <gammafunk> and I'm not sure there's any way to change this
13:46:09 <gammafunk> also, I'm not even sure how that will render
13:46:46 <MarvinPA> oh yeah i saw that earlier and was wondering, can't stone arches be lrd'd?
13:47:00 <MarvinPA> in which case it would be sort of bad to use the tile but not to actually be a real arch
13:47:19 <gammafunk> well even in tiles, it doesn't work; it's shallow water but using the tile means it shows a floor
13:47:41 <gammafunk> which is obviously not great since you're in water
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13:48:46 <gammafunk> and yeah MarvinPA is right about LRD
13:55:24 <Lasty_> ... I never knew arches could be LRD'd
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14:03:39 <geekosaur> huh. I thought I'd tried to target an arch with LRD and it wouldn't
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14:06:51 <gammafunk> Yeah, I didn't know either; had to test it to see myself
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14:07:05 <gammafunk> They also don't seem to break from lrd
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14:37:40 <gammafunk> ??arc
14:37:40 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled arc in my learndb. Did you mean: ac, acc, ar, asc, atc, irc, orc, rc.
14:37:43 <gammafunk> ??arch
14:37:44 <Sequell> arch ~ archl[1/4]: <arch> well, although im transmuter, I will go back to trog once I have 15 Level of air magic :)
14:47:38 <Cheibriados> New randart names & some possible removals 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9949 by Skrybe
14:52:06 <|amethyst> hm
14:52:30 <|amethyst> could add a new feature for submerged arch in shallow water, but that way lies combinatorial explosion
14:52:49 <|amethyst> (re tile, I was thinking a new tile that has both water and the arch)
14:52:58 <gammafunk> ah, ok
14:53:18 <gammafunk> I assumed you thought what I said since you seemed to be asking about syntax in -dev, sorry
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15:06:08 <gammafunk> !gamesby comborobin
15:06:09 <Sequell> comborobin has played 2339 games, between 2015-05-22 17:59:18 and 2015-09-11 13:17:22, won 270 (11.5%), high score 17917444, total score 591357359, total turns 37361139, play-time/day 22:27:33, total time 105d+17:54:03.
15:06:16 <gammafunk> 22.5 hours per day
15:06:40 <gammafunk> !gamesby comborobin thisweek
15:06:41 <Sequell> comborobin (thisweek) has played 153 games, between 2015-08-16 20:20:39 and 2015-09-11 13:17:22, won 18 (11.8%), high score 7322134, total score 45589837, total turns 2943222, play-time/day 7:49:06, total time 8d+19:05:56.
15:06:54 <gammafunk> !gamesby comborobin thismonth
15:06:55 <Sequell> comborobin (thismonth) has played 286 games, between 2015-07-21 23:31:17 and 2015-09-11 13:17:22, won 32 (11.2%), high score 7322134, total score 76277693, total turns 5326779, play-time/day 6:47:17, total time 14d+23:46:25.
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15:16:40 <wheals> need to get it to one hour per hour
15:17:24 <minmay> !messages
15:17:24 <Sequell> No messages for minmay.
15:21:39 <wheals> thrall's post is actually fairly comprehensible
15:21:52 <wheals> i don't get 'radioactivity' though
15:22:01 <gammafunk> yeah, needs to be moved to the right forum, though
15:22:17 <wheals> yeah i was about to ask yo
15:22:18 <wheals> u
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15:36:13 <ontoclasm> !messages
15:36:14 <Sequell> No messages for ontoclasm.
15:36:38 <ontoclasm> Bodrick: you're the one who did the dynamic lighting deal, right?
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15:37:26 <Bodrick> yup
15:38:12 <ontoclasm> i built it and it looks good to me
15:38:59 <Bodrick> cool :)
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15:39:59 <Bodrick> there are a few things i could improve - sometimes it looks a bit odd when the light hits unlit walls from above
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15:41:15 <Bodrick> i think it's decent as a starting point where it is now though
15:42:25 <gammafunk> Bodrick: How would you feel about posting it with a link to screenshots on tavern? Might be nice to get a bit of user feedback.
15:43:30 <gammafunk> I'll probably put it in a branch on the repo pretty soon, since I'm sure there will be some follow-up commits I or others might need to make, and then you can pull any of those and make follow-up commits of your own
15:44:55 <Bodrick> sounds good - i'll post a thread a bit later
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15:49:28 <wheals> feedback: "stupid non-devs add stupid light feature"
15:50:12 <wheals> i guess tavern isn't all bad :)
15:54:01 <ontoclasm> hm, it just crashed on me
15:55:43 <ontoclasm> ASSERT(idx < TILE_FEAT_MAX) in 'rltiles/tiledef-dngn.cc' at line 86 failed.
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15:56:07 <ontoclasm> wasn't doing anything, jsut moving the cursor around
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16:00:20 <ontoclasm> also, i'm not sure how you're doing the blending, but it currently has pretty sharp edges
16:00:27 <amalloy> ontoclasm: working as intended, to advertise console master race
16:00:36 <ontoclasm> hah
16:00:48 <ontoclasm> amalloy: it works in hybrid mode too!
16:01:18 <amalloy> it blends the floor glyphs?
16:01:25 <amalloy> there is not a lot of space to blend a .
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16:02:40 <ontoclasm> no, it blends the backgrounds behind the characters
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16:26:26 <ProzacElf> should shapeshifters normally appear in orc?
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16:31:17 <|amethyst> not as part of Orc spawns, but they could come up the Elf stairs
16:31:47 <|amethyst> (or down the stairs from D, as slight OODs)
16:33:07 <Bodrick> ontoclasm: hm, haven't come across that before
16:33:47 <Bodrick> the blending has sharp edges because the tile is subdivided into 9 rectangles and each of those is given a distinct colour
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16:34:42 <ProzacElf> well, it was a d:9 orc and it's not on the same level as the elf stairs
16:34:45 <ProzacElf> but no matter
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16:35:02 <ProzacElf> i've just been seeing a fair number of things that don't look like they belong where they are the past week or so
16:35:07 <ProzacElf> like an orc high priest in swamp
16:35:32 <ProzacElf> that might have been vault related b/c he was in a small stone room
16:35:38 <ProzacElf> but that seems like an awfully boring vault
16:35:58 <|amethyst> !vault grunt_hermit_hut
16:35:58 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des#l1186
16:36:13 <ontoclasm> Bodrick: yeah, i figured
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16:36:40 <|amethyst> !mon-pick
16:36:44 <|amethyst> ??mon-pick
16:36:45 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled mon-pick in my learndb.
16:36:48 <|amethyst> ?/spreadsheet
16:36:49 <Sequell> Matching entries (10): dieselrobin[5] | dieselrobin_results[1] | dodging[2] | elliptic[3] | layouts[2] | mon-pick-data[1] | rebel_tilescum[2] | tasonir[2] | team_peach_tree[2] | test[12]
16:36:54 <|amethyst> ??mon-pick-data
16:36:54 <Sequell> mon-pick-data[1/1]: Probability-calculation spreadsheet (data maybe not up to date) at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjXhStQL2U2fdHc2LWswckVoZUhnT3Y2Qzk3OFMzaVE
16:37:21 <|amethyst> hm, no
16:37:23 <|amethyst> ??objstat
16:37:23 <Sequell> objstat[1/3]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a build of crawl with EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS in your make command (or full debug with "make debug") to generate item/monsters statistics. See crawl -help for the argument details.
16:37:25 <|amethyst> ??objstat[2]
16:37:25 <Sequell> objstat[2/3]:  Latest statistics: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing , See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing
16:39:22 <ProzacElf> i suppose it might have just been the hermit hut vault
16:39:41 <|amethyst> ProzacElf:  was the shapeshifter on Orc:1?  A shapeshifter on D:9 is not impossible, though on average it doesn't happen
16:39:49 <ProzacElf> it was on orc:2
16:39:53 <|amethyst> hmm
16:40:06 <ProzacElf> i thought it was weird enough to see an adder but not completely out of line
16:40:11 <ProzacElf> then i saw the corpse
16:40:24 <Bodrick> ontoclasm: i might be able to smooth out the transitions by using a linear gradient between the center colour and the edge colours
16:40:50 <Bodrick> that should be easy enough in webtiles - i'm not sure about the opengl side though
16:42:30 <ProzacElf> i mainly only bring it up b/c i've seen some people in ##crawl bringing up seeing weird monsters occasionally
16:42:51 <ProzacElf> like, not ridiculously OOD stuff, but also not attached to any obvious vaults or anything in many cases
16:44:26 <Cheibriados> New branch created: willitblend (20 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/willitblend
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1739-ge1aa63f: Update qw.rc 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 1152+ 479-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1aa63f057fb
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1740-g7c88b51: Implement tiles light blending 10(11 days ago, 13 files, 153+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c88b514bc64
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1741-g58af8f5: Simplify pack_lighting 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 13+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58af8f5fe04a
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1742-ga9497ed: Add lava lighting and tweak umbra level 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a9497ed8c374
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1743-g7000a8a: Add tile_light_blur option 10(5 days ago, 3 files, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7000a8a4c4ea
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1775-g4c38291: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into advanced-lighting 10(5 days ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c38291890a2
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1776-g1cf6c69: Add orb glow lighting 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 35+ 44-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1cf6c6950a18
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1777-g4e71280: Add quad damage lighting 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e71280ed3e0
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1778-g00c2f34: Refactor lighting code, add debug info to tooltip 10(4 days ago, 7 files, 84+ 83-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/00c2f34db05a
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> 03Bodrick02 07[willitblend] * 0.17-a0-1779-g57aec93: Fix crash when getting too close to map boundaries 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57aec93e97cc
16:44:27 <Cheibriados> ... and 10 more commits
16:44:49 <|amethyst> I see my branch name stuck
16:44:55 <gammafunk> couldn't resist :)
16:44:56 <Bodrick> lol
16:45:55 <gammafunk> Bodrick: that has latest master merged. Feel free to pull from that into your repo for our commits and I or someone else will do the same for yours in advanced-lighting
16:46:24 <Bodrick> ok, cool thanks
16:46:41 <ontoclasm> oh, one thing
16:46:41 <Bodrick> i'm just writing the tavern post now
16:47:04 <ontoclasm> i don't know how you'd manage it, but it'd be neat if wall torches had a bit of glow
16:47:10 <Bodrick> yeah - i thought that as well
16:47:40 <gammafunk> animated torches would rule
16:47:43 <ontoclasm> tile variations are black magic to me but presumably you can call gc.something to see what tile it's using
16:47:51 <Bodrick> i was wondering if the tile generator could define a luminence for each tile
16:47:58 <Bodrick> or something like that
16:48:25 <gammafunk> yeah, with a simple approach you could have animated colors with each ui action, at least
16:48:37 <gammafunk> s/colors/torches/
16:48:41 <Bodrick> then store that in tiledef*.cc
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16:58:24 <ProzacElf> ontoclasm: i thought you were the tile master!
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17:06:56 <gammafunk> ProzacElf: He's a Tile Demonologist, a wielder of arcane and dangerous magics that he can barely control...
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17:07:07 <ProzacElf> haha
17:07:23 <ProzacElf> !send ontoclasm A hostile Tile
17:07:23 <Sequell> Sending A hostile Tile to ontoclasm.
17:07:36 <gammafunk> ...a hosTile
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17:15:30 <ontoclasm> not worried, i have control tiles at 3% failure
17:19:50 <wheals> You miscast Control Tiles. A javascript error appears!
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17:31:25 <travis-ci> The build passed. (willitblend - 3aa259e #3158 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/79920344
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17:44:18 <ProzacElf> lol
17:44:59 <ProzacElf> wait until you face C. Ling Tile!
17:48:30 <|amethyst> FR: replace Gozag's altar with a pubic wig
17:48:36 <|amethyst> since e is the merkin tile god
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17:50:30 * geekosaur suddenly wonders where Ceiling Cat god is :p
17:50:39 <kvaak> right behind you
17:50:53 <geekosaur> above, one hopes :p
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18:01:13 <Lantell> Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1805-g6093636 (34)
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18:10:14 <ProzacElf> =(
18:10:22 <ProzacElf> both of my cats are dead now
18:10:51 <ProzacElf> but they were both 17 years old, so i guess i can't complain
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18:16:17 <gammafunk> oh no, a *poll* in GDD
18:16:25 <gammafunk> That is a very slippery slope
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18:18:31 <geekosaur> pollished turds?
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18:31:37 <Lasty> gammafunk: but which team are you on?
18:32:10 <gammafunk> What are the teams?
18:32:30 <Lasty> according to the poll, team wheals or team lasty
18:32:37 <gammafunk> But what *are* they?!
18:32:52 <gammafunk> teams of bad players and good players? that'd be my guess given no other information
18:32:56 <gammafunk> and then I'm on team lasty
18:33:11 <Lasty> hooray
18:33:19 <Lasty> I have no idea what the teams are
18:33:32 <Lasty> but that doesn't change how desperate I am to make sure my team wins
18:34:09 <gammafunk> Sadly it seems you can only edit the poll choices as a mod, and this just resets the voting
18:35:34 <Lasty> yeah
18:35:45 <Lasty> you were hoping to change the votes? :D
18:37:52 <gammafunk> I'm not the one desperate to make sure my team wins!
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18:38:03 <gammafunk> Of course I could look the other should someone *else* change the votes
18:38:09 <gammafunk> s/other/other way/
18:40:33 <Lasty> I'll go talk to Napk1n
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20:20:16 <gammafunk> .jugged x=dam,tdam,zigscompleted
20:20:17 <Sequell> 14. [dam=73;tdam=73;zigscompleted=2] nimitz the Farming Archmage (L27 DsNe of Vehumet), annihilated by a juggernaut skeleton on Zig:27 on 2015-09-11 14:56:25, with 1663999 points after 256311 turns and 16:09:51.
20:20:29 <gammafunk> Ouch! That really hurt!
20:21:02 <gammafunk> .jugged -tv:channel=jugged:<2
20:21:02 <Sequell> 14. nimitz, XL27 DsNe, T:256311 requested for jugged: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org.
20:22:26 <gammafunk> even zapped /hw on his last turn, looks like
20:22:38 <Grunt> todo: make one or the other of the iron giant or the crystal colossus hit almost as hard as a juggernaut
20:22:43 <Grunt> <_<
20:22:46 <Grunt> (probably the former)
20:23:01 <gammafunk> I wonder if I could just replace opc with the iron giant (and I guess remove them from shoals)
20:23:04 <gammafunk> he has a band, doesn't he?
20:23:13 <Grunt> the iron giant can summon iron elementals
20:23:16 <Grunt> that would be easy to make into a band
20:23:22 <gammafunk> hrm
20:23:30 <gammafunk> Yeah those are not terribly good monsters
20:23:34 <gammafunk> @??iron_elemental
20:23:34 <Gretell> iron elemental (10E) | Spd: 6 | HD: 12 | HP: 92-125 | AC/EV: 20/2 | Dam: 40 | 11non-living, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 889 | Sp: iron shot (3d24) [06!sil], slow [06!sil], metal splinters (3d27) [06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: brainless.
20:23:40 <Grunt> alternatively give him a few stone giants and/or juggernauts instead
20:23:44 <Grunt> (and remove the summon??)
20:23:47 <gammafunk> haha, ho boy
20:24:14 <Grunt> have him throw you at the juggernauts
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20:24:24 <gammafunk> Yeah, they're already fast though
20:24:37 <gammafunk> but still, at least the player is likely to land near a monster
20:25:00 <Grunt> The iron giant throws you! The juggernaut hits you!!!! Ouch! That really hurt! The juggernaut hits you!!!!! Ouch! That really hurt! You die...
20:25:29 <Grunt> gammafunk, annihilated by a juggernaut (led by the iron giant)
20:25:44 <gammafunk> ...not with the power of my X armour!
20:25:46 <gammafunk> !xxx Grunt
20:25:46 <Sequell> gammafunk mumbles some strange words. 11 tentacled monstrosities appear! The tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps Grunt! x11
20:25:56 * Grunt seems unharmed.
20:25:57 <Grunt> ??qda[2
20:25:57 <Sequell> quicksilver dragon armour[2/2]: <gammafunk> Quality Dragon Armour, A Grunt Guarantee! (tm)
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20:33:01 <Cheibriados> 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/110 * 0.17-a0-1799-g0d7ef7a: Save compat tags for MUT_BLINK 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0d7ef7a4605d
20:33:01 <Cheibriados> 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/110 * 0.17-a0-1802-g75b750b: Merge branch 'patch-3' of https://github.com/drke2/crawl into patch-3 10(6 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/75b750b7c744
20:33:13 <Grunt> also when can I implement elder titans
20:33:14 <Grunt> <_<
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20:42:17 <Grunt> okay gammafunk, here's your starting point
20:42:23 <Grunt> http://sprunge.us/OTVg
20:42:52 <Grunt> (which is the polymorph name fix, the vault poking, and a revised version of the earlier rework to reflect this discussion)
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20:49:15 <Grunt> and here's a version of the other guy that compiles: http://sprunge.us/RPcY
20:49:31 <Grunt> er
20:49:43 <Grunt> http://sprunge.us/OLZE
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20:56:12 <gammafunk> @??iron_giant
20:56:12 <Gretell> the iron giant (10C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 220 | AC/EV: 18/2 | Dam: 60 | 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(120), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 5362 | Sp: iron shot (3d37) [06!sil], sum.iron elementals [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: human.
20:56:18 <gammafunk> oh good, speed 10, thank god
20:56:32 <Grunt> if it hadn't been at least speed 10, I would have made it speed 10
20:56:33 <Grunt> :p
20:57:39 <gammafunk> heh, it's already basically an op crusher that's better at throwing
20:57:46 <gammafunk> didn't know it had iron shot
20:57:52 <gammafunk> that is some nasty iron shot
20:57:55 <Grunt> the *iron* giant
20:57:57 <Grunt> what did you expect
20:58:08 <gammafunk> I guess that's fair
20:58:34 <gammafunk> I think basically a band of mixed C that could include juggernauts
20:58:39 <ontoclasm> iron bolt
20:58:49 <ontoclasm> ironstorm
20:59:00 <gammafunk> ironado
20:59:05 <Grunt> you can tinker with the band makeup; I like the idea of always exactly having two juggernauts <_<
20:59:20 <Grunt> (with a couple of tagalong other giants ofc)
20:59:21 <gammafunk> Well my problem with all juggers is that they're so much faster
20:59:30 <gammafunk> oh
20:59:38 <gammafunk> yeah you don't mean only two jugges
20:59:43 <gammafunk> right, yeah that would be fine
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21:00:13 <gammafunk> this is a nother "top-tier" unique, and I know at least MarvinPA is not excited about adding more of those
21:00:36 <gammafunk> but moving the throw thing to a unique and also allowing it to work with a band of monsters is probably for the best
21:00:37 <Grunt> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:00:58 <Grunt> we're not adding him; we're just putting him in the main game >_>
21:01:15 <gammafunk> Look some of us are not Grunt and like worry endlessly about balance ok!
21:01:21 <Grunt> learn add grunt
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21:02:38 <gammafunk> hrm, wonder if he could throw both his C and the player
21:02:43 <gammafunk> that would be very Grunt
21:02:49 <Grunt> ha
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21:14:53 <ontoclasm> does this mean we can remove iron elementals
21:15:02 <gammafunk> ontoclasm: stone of tremors
21:15:04 <ontoclasm> @??iron elemental
21:15:05 <Gretell> iron elemental (10E) | Spd: 6 | HD: 12 | HP: 92-125 | AC/EV: 20/2 | Dam: 40 | 11non-living, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 889 | Sp: iron shot (3d24) [06!sil], slow [06!sil], metal splinters (3d27) [06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: brainless.
21:15:11 <gammafunk> oh, are those different
21:15:23 <gammafunk> yeah I guess they are
21:15:36 <gammafunk> @??earth_elementals
21:15:36 <Gretell> unknown monster: "earth_elementals"
21:15:38 <gammafunk> @??earth_elemental
21:15:38 <Gretell> earth elemental (07E) | Spd: 6 | HD: 6 | HP: 34-56 | AC/EV: 14/4 | Dam: 40 | 11non-living, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 83 | Sz: Big | Int: brainless.
21:16:15 <gammafunk> hrm
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21:24:02 <Grunt> ontoclasm: some sprints still use them
21:24:14 <Grunt> ontoclasm: but part of the motivation of band vs summon is so that we can remove iron elementals
21:24:22 <Grunt> (add a unique and remove two monsters; what could go wrong)
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21:27:41 <Grunt> (well, not "add" per se <_<)
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23:15:35 <Cheibriados> Improve sticks to snakes usability 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9950 by gerbias
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23:59:01 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1805-g6093636 (34)