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I think I should just remove msysgit and update to that new one you mentioned on tavern 02:33:56 INSTALL.txt does have the link for it 02:34:25 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/INSTALL.txt 02:34:27 that one, I mean 02:34:52 found it from the crawl source browser 02:35:00 but there's not too much you have to do other than install the SDK, and remember to type 'start crawl' instead of './crawl' to launch the console version 02:35:12 oh, and you no longer need NO_PKGCONFIG=y 02:35:25 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:35:50 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: RIP] 02:37:53 it wasn't working for me even with that today, rather than troubleshoot I'll try the other one 02:43:25 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:48:54 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1769-g54adf96 02:57:23 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:45 -!- haibullko has quit [Client Quit] 03:09:07 -!- Demise has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:11:48 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1769-g54adf96 (34) 03:17:06 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:17:49 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:21:07 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:31:12 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:31:51 -!- jspengler has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:32:07 -!- copt has quit [] 03:38:58 |amethyst: how hard would it be for me to change the location of some of my ttyrecs 03:39:08 |amethyst: I want to start shipping old ttyrecs to cheaper storage 03:39:44 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:43:16 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:51:57 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:57:31 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 04:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03:44 -!- WalrusKing__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:05:07 <|amethyst> 0j.e140~-4. 04:05:07 |amethyst: You have 3 messages. 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[dam=77] nago the Executioner (L21 HOSk of Elyvilon), annihilated by a juggernaut (summoned by a giant orange brain) on Depths:2 on 2015-09-07 14:08:03, with 325623 points after 77329 turns and 1:51:09. 10:47:09 .jugged -tv:channel=jugged:<2 10:47:10 12. nago, XL21 HOSk, T:77329 requested for jugged: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 10:47:13 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:47:23 !gamesby nago 10:47:24 nago has played 4627 games, between 2011-05-08 13:16:46 and 2015-09-07 14:08:03, won 215 (4.6%), high score 14861758, total score 686442521, total turns 48263500, play-time/day 1:40:48, total time 110d+21:07:18. 10:47:42 what's with all the white in his UI 10:47:48 oh dang, this is water palace 10:48:01 no, this is why I never ever clear depths 10:48:28 good shadow creatures 10:48:48 !gamesby kvaak 10:48:48 kvaak has played 871 games, between 2014-06-20 19:05:08 and 2015-08-30 17:09:01, won 88 (10.1%), high score 18752615, total score 268187429, total turns 13653161, play-time/day 1:41:53, total time 30d+22:04:46. 10:48:59 a tenpercenter... 10:49:16 !lg . mfie / won 10:49:16 0/16 games for kvaak (mfie): N=0/16 (0.00%) 10:49:21 heh 10:49:34 proof that we've nerfed magic 10:50:12 Lasty: Nago was having trouble clearig my water palace and teleported, then died to a juggernaut from shadow creatures 10:50:18 powerful dev synergy 10:50:20 what about mu though 10:50:32 !lg . mu s=char / won 10:50:33 5/46 games for kvaak (mu): 2/9x MuSu [22.22%], 1/9x MuAK [11.11%], 1/1x MuMo [100.00%], 1/12x MuEn [8.33%], 0/2x MuHu [0.00%], 0/1x MuWz [0.00%], 0/1x MuCK [0.00%], 0/3x MuGl [0.00%], 0/5x MuBe [0.00%], 0/1x MuCj [0.00%], 0/1x MuIE [0.00%], 0/1x MuAs [0.00%] 10:50:37 it's clearly op 10:51:09 I think statistics like this have been cited by notable people who rely on lg to "win" arguments about species strength 10:51:28 !lg . mu / won 10:51:28 1/15 games for gammafunk (mu): N=1/15 (6.67%) 10:52:00 !lg . !gfspeed !boring s=crace / won 10:52:01 32/436 games for gammafunk (!gfspeed !boring): 3/97x Octopode [3.09%], 2/2x Troll [100.00%], 2/5x Kobold [40.00%], 2/39x High Elf [5.13%], 2/4x Demonspawn [50.00%], 2/3x Spriggan [66.67%], 1/7x Demigod [14.29%], 1/3x Draconian [33.33%], 1/4x Vampire [25.00%], 1/5x Centaur [20.00%], 1/2x Gargoyle [50.00%], 1/5x Tengu [20.00%], 1/3x Ogre [33.33%], 1/1x Deep Dwarf [100.00%], 1/9x Halfling [11.11%], 1... 10:52:04 !lg . !gfspeed !boring s=crace / won o=% 10:52:05 32/436 games for gammafunk (!gfspeed !boring): 2/2x Troll [100.00%], 1/1x Deep Dwarf [100.00%], 2/3x Spriggan [66.67%], 1/2x Gargoyle [50.00%], 2/4x Demonspawn [50.00%], 2/5x Kobold [40.00%], 1/3x Draconian [33.33%], 1/3x Ogre [33.33%], 1/4x Vampire [25.00%], 1/5x Centaur [20.00%], 1/5x Tengu [20.00%], 1/7x Demigod [14.29%], 1/8x Hill Orc [12.50%], 1/9x Halfling [11.11%], 1/10x Mummy [10.00%], 1/1... 10:53:57 I was so damn close to 1/1 muck too and then I walked into a plant in lair :( 10:54:32 well it wasn't a legit muck anyway 10:54:45 !hs * feck 10:54:45 3369. agentgt the Imperceptible (L27 FeCK of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-05-29 04:52:15, with 21648353 points after 69148 turns and 10:40:45. 10:55:08 !hs * muck 10:55:09 13398. xomscumming the Farming Slayer (L27 MuCK of Lugonu), blasted by Maurice (wand of fire) on D:23 on 2011-09-05 16:50:25, with 27000000 points after 478185 turns and 1d+16:21:24. 10:55:42 incredble that this doesn't have a reasonable high score 10:56:26 jellymaurice is eternal 10:56:38 oh I see, 27 mil 10:57:00 !hs * muck cv>=0.11 10:57:01 6218. jeanjacques the Conqueror (L27 MuCK of Xom), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-09-11 19:41:50, with 13154385 points after 121526 turns and 11:23:53. 10:57:19 Still not very good 10:59:35 -!- siepu_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:03 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 11:04:46 should've farmed until 270000000 clearly 11:04:47 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:57 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:30:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:43:48 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45:33 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:47:14 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:56:17 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:58:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:36 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:09:31 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:09:37 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14:03 hm 12:14:05 i'm lost :C 12:14:20 i made a permarock tile but i can't figure out how to implement it 12:14:29 since tileview makes my head hurt 12:15:23 oh wait, maybe i got it 12:19:00 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:23:12 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:26:36 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:33:52 all right, i got it working but i dunno how to make crawl use the color variations 12:34:18 i have it generating the colors correctly but all permarock shows up as the red one 12:39:24 -!- imaginarythomas has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:42:02 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: maybe tileidx_feature needs cases for permarock 12:42:09 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: it calls apply_variations etc 12:42:22 well, i -think- i found it 12:42:23 <|amethyst> tileidx_feature_base looks like it might be relevant too? 12:42:46 there's a thing in tileview where it calls coloured_dungeon_tile or whatever the name of that function is 12:43:34 if it doesn't work i'll check tileidx_feature 12:45:14 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 12:46:23 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:19 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:50:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:14 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 12:55:00 -!- infrasho1tfoo has 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ZZZzzz…] 14:51:12 -!- imaginarythomas has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:00 ontoclasm: how comfortable are you with rebasing? 15:02:27 or maybe I should ask, in that first commit, is there anything else you want to add? 15:02:35 It seems you might want to make permarock variations 15:02:56 Well, this can just get a follow-up commit I think 15:06:30 New branch created: permarock (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/permarock 15:06:30 03ontoclasm02 {gammafunk} 07[permarock] * 0.17-a0-1770-g83189cc: Permarock tiles 10(2 hours ago, 7 files, 172+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83189cced348 15:06:30 03gammafunk02 07[permarock] * 0.17-a0-1771-g7b0f88f: Allow permarock tiles to use feature colours 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 8+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7b0f88facc92 15:08:42 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:09:05 !tell ontoclasm I made permarock use the colour from the COLOUR statement instead of trying to use level rock colour (which should only apply to actual rock). I check and it seems only hall_of_zot needed a COLOUR specified for permarock 15:09:05 gammafunk: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 15:09:53 !tell ontoclasm Feel free to make any follow-up commits to that permarock branch and then merge it, or let me know if you have further trouble 15:09:53 gammafunk: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 15:13:16 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:16:42 -!- CcS_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:17:34 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:18:39 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:52 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:18:54 so should someone fix the freeze thing or what 15:19:52 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:21:47 gammafunk: thanks! 15:21:47 ontoclasm: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:21:58 the freeze thing? 15:22:12 it's a smite 15:23:27 #9943 15:23:43 -!- smitnich has quit [Client Quit] 15:24:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:25:39 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.17-a0-1770-g39cf400: Mummy tile edits 10(3 hours ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39cf4005b30f 15:25:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:15 -!- smitnich has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:24 -!- melenkurio has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:32:33 -!- smitnich has quit [Client Quit] 15:35:06 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36:19 -!- vale__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:39:41 all those priests carrying a skull means we really need a skull unrand 15:40:42 turn the mace of torment into a spooky skull of torment 15:41:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41:34 if you defeat murray you can wield him >.> 15:45:28 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:52:28 geekosaur: kind of reminds me of a dancing weapon unique 15:52:52 Alexander of Woe 15:53:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:54:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:59:17 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:59:26 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:52 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 16:04:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:05:49 ontoclasm: oh, which color would you want set for permarock in labs? 16:05:54 Brown I assume? 16:06:30 the skull could be like a lantern of reaping or something 16:06:56 and you can hit dudes with it, because why not? 16:07:52 you wield it, and it prevents you from casting spells or evoking items, and anything you kill with it wielded gets resurrected friendly 16:08:26 soo... basically sword of zonguldrok but worse? 16:08:57 hahaha 16:09:04 yeah! 16:09:09 or maybe it could work like a shield 16:09:15 so you could at least hit things with a real weapon 16:09:20 sword of zonguldrok knight 16:09:37 and just anything that dies gets resurrected 16:10:01 well real weapons and shields are mutually exclusive unless you're fo 16:10:12 03gammafunk02 07[permarock] * 0.17-a0-1772-g908a7c4: Use brown permarock tiles in Labyrinths 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/908a7c4ee966 16:10:25 ontoclasm: See that last permarock commit for labs, which are a special case 16:11:55 eh 16:12:29 honestly, labs were the reason i brought up the permarock thing in the first place 16:12:57 Well this fixes that? 16:13:22 i imagine it does 16:13:30 well the "eh" confused me 16:13:45 the "eh" was directed at kvaak's contention about 1h weapons not being "real" 16:13:46 sorry 16:13:51 oh, makes sense 16:14:48 Probably the only notable instances are labs and zot:5 vault 16:14:53 -!- cut_lass has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:15:02 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 16:15:07 What we'd like to do is to make permarock only a thing for bordering levels 16:15:19 and use normal features everywhere 16:15:25 ah 16:15:30 that makes sense 16:15:33 bbl 16:17:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:19:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:20:01 -!- Foamed has quit [Client Quit] 16:20:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 16:21:30 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:22:26 gammafunk: yeah, brown is probably best 16:23:00 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:28:19 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:29:37 it'd be nice if there were some indication of where the border was in general so you didn't try to dig it 16:32:39 wheals: well, i dunno how it currently works but there could be a border of permarock at the very edge 16:32:45 then it would be obvious 16:33:01 -!- jspengler has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:33:05 (that's how e.g. shoals does it) 16:35:11 oh wow 16:35:19 i learned why labs have random permaglass 16:35:29 // This hinges on clear wall types having the same order as non-clear ones! 16:35:31 guess what\ 16:35:40 what, really 16:39:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:40:28 amazing 16:40:37 but not surprising :P 16:43:05 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:13 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:14 -!- imaginarythomas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:58:24 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:29 i wonder whether this has been broken since slime walls were added, or just since the first save compat break after that 17:01:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10:39 -!- Voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:54 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:21 is glass normally cyan or lightcyan? 17:15:36 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: lightcyan 17:15:58 <|amethyst> cyan is metal 17:16:28 <|amethyst> 17:16:54 ??? 17:17:29 <|amethyst> "X is metal" 17:17:35 ah right 17:20:01 mm 17:22:27 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1771-gdae8a59: Fix stone walls being turned into permaglass in labs. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 22+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dae8a596543e 17:23:05 rip 17:23:07 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:23:42 what even uses permaglass now? 17:24:16 doesn't the golubria wizlab have some 17:24:30 that's literally the only thing i could think of 17:24:38 <|amethyst> vitrify on Zot:5 etc 17:24:48 fair point 17:26:54 there's still the bug that turns some walls into permarock 17:27:34 sadly vitrificaton card is gone so it's hard to test :Y 17:27:40 i guess i'll just have xom act a bunch and hope 17:27:58 are you adding special permaglass tiles too? 17:28:36 i see permarock_clear_red0.png 17:28:36 now 17:28:41 so never mind 17:29:29 yeah, it's crappy but it's used basically nowhere 17:29:35 so i'm not overly concerned 17:30:13 zot looks weird now 17:30:20 please tell me if it's awful 17:31:53 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/permazot.png 17:32:23 weak new zot 17:32:33 :C 17:33:40 it looks like obelisks 17:33:42 note to self, replace orb guard tiles 17:33:42 or something 17:33:48 i'm sure people will complain, but that's a given :) 17:33:51 just use the baby tiles 17:34:26 for permarock 17:34:28 agreed 17:37:42 New branch created: pull/108 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/108 17:37:42 03Kevin Donnelly02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/108 * 0.17-a0-1771-gfc9da68: Remove old messages in webtiles 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc9da68228e7 17:37:49 -!- clarke_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:38:48 cool 17:38:57 <|amethyst> I'm not happy with the hardcoded -10 there 17:39:38 <|amethyst> not sure what would be better though 17:39:44 <|amethyst> other than maybe a hardcoded -100 :/ 17:39:46 very good that he's found that problem though 17:40:13 <|amethyst> I'm sure that's not the only leak, but yeah :)( 17:40:14 hm, there's no description for Donate Gold 17:40:31 <|amethyst> did any of the new abilities get descriptions? 17:40:43 <|amethyst> s/new/new old/ 17:41:08 yes 17:41:15 if you mean the formerly altar ones 17:41:39 but I guess I missed that one 17:43:34 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:45:19 ah, nope, golubria lab uses stone glass 17:45:48 if there's a (non-vit) use of permaglass still around i can't think of it 17:47:36 03ontoclasm02 07[permarock] * 0.17-a0-1773-g70d5c4d: Permaglass edits 10(22 seconds ago, 3 files, 20+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/70d5c4d6b3b6 17:49:46 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:50:00 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.17-a0-1772-gf0816ad: Permarock tiles 10(5 hours ago, 7 files, 172+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0816ad954aa 17:50:00 03gammafunk02 {ontoclasm} 07* 0.17-a0-1773-gb0681b7: Allow permarock tiles to use feature colours 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 8+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b0681b7823fc 17:50:00 03gammafunk02 {ontoclasm} 07* 0.17-a0-1774-gd6cbb0a: Use brown permarock tiles in Labyrinths 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d6cbb0a6cbc3 17:50:00 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.17-a0-1775-g10da671: Permaglass edits 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 20+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/10da67122216 17:50:24 gammafunk: thanks~ 17:50:30 no prob 17:50:51 oh wow, and he didn't even make a spurious merge commit?! 17:51:11 If the artists learn to program....what's left for the programmers.... 17:51:59 >.< 17:52:17 i do that exactly once on each new computer 17:52:56 the process goes git push -> "agggh" -> git.config --whatever 17:53:14 1learn add git 17:53:15 lol 17:53:28 I started storing my .gitconfig in git 17:54:07 there is the issue that any of the hook modifications you made aren't stored in the repo 17:54:16 I guess that's just "use a backup system" 17:56:35 -!- Zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:56:39 Yeah, my usual new computer setup involves installing the backup/restore software, restoring my (encrypted of course) SSH keys, then using SSH to clone my "setup a new computer" repo and dotfiles 17:57:14 If I used hooks a lot, I'd just move the clone step into the restore step. 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:24 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1775-g10da671 (34) 18:02:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:18 -!- Lutha has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:16:10 <_miek> I've got a patch for 9943 18:16:21 <_miek> what's the git command for creating the patch? 18:16:36 <_miek> ??git 18:16:36 git[1/2]: Readonly: git clone https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git Web interface: https://github.com/crawl/crawl 18:16:45 <_miek> ??git[2 18:16:45 git[2/2]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:git 18:16:55 <|amethyst> _miek: git format-patch master 18:17:08 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:14 <|amethyst> _miek: (or if you're working in your local master branch, git format-patch origin/master ) 18:17:34 <|amethyst> a pull request works too 18:17:42 <_miek> ty 18:17:58 <_miek> Oh it appears that this patch doesn't allow the ! to work if the beam would hit the monster 18:18:05 <_miek> but the target wouldn't 18:18:20 <_miek> better than nothing though 18:18:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:01 <|amethyst> does ! still work for other spells? 18:20:05 -!- Tags has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:20:58 <|amethyst> my thought had been to turn freeze and vamp. draining into normal beam spells with a tracer 18:21:07 <|amethyst> like Sticky Flame (which isn't affected by the bug) 18:22:15 <_miek> yeah I haven't touched any of the targetter stuff 18:22:31 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:22:38 <_miek> maybe that's what I should do 18:22:58 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1776-g96022f5: Give a description of Zin's Donate Gold ability (wheals) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/96022f5acc7a 18:23:34 <|amethyst> _miek: that one might require updates to the monster spell code, too 18:25:13 <_miek> yep. Thanks |amethyst. 18:31:19 |amethyst: looks like someone ran into the issue with using the github tarballs https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/3jvjdz/problem_building_from_source_on_linux/ 18:32:33 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I forget, what was the cause? 18:32:57 it doesn't work without a .git dir I think? 18:33:15 because git describe is used during make I want to say 18:33:41 <|amethyst> oh, and I guess there isn't a way to have github generate util/release_ver before making those tarballs 18:33:56 oh yeah, our release just makes util/release_ver 18:34:10 -!- jakub has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:34:18 but that can only be done with a valid git repo 18:34:32 -!- fbafelipe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:34:46 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:34:49 it's kind of a weird chicken-and-egg problem but I'm not sure it's worth trying to fix 18:34:51 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 18:35:16 <|amethyst> the github source tarballs are automatically generated by github, right? 18:35:19 yes 18:35:25 for any tag 18:35:33 hrm, and maybe even any commit actually 18:36:39 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: RIP] 18:37:12 in https://github.com/crawl/crawl/releases it has a releases tab and tags tab 18:37:22 not sure how it differentiates those two 18:37:47 <|amethyst> https://help.github.com/articles/creating-releases/ 18:37:52 I guess not very well, since our beta tags are also "releases" 18:38:07 <|amethyst> hm 18:38:28 <|amethyst> https://help.github.com/articles/about-releases/ I guess is better 18:39:02 I see "If you'd like to include binary files along with your release, such as compiled programs, drag and drop or select files manually in the binaries box." but I doubt this will be useful 18:39:20 in fact that's really something different altogether 18:40:23 hrm, I guess this would allow us to host the binaries on github 18:40:40 But I'm not sure that's really very helpful, the repo is still on cdo 18:40:56 not to mention nightlies 18:41:05 <|amethyst> yeah, not saying we should use that 18:41:16 <|amethyst> just, AFAIK, that's what they mean when they say "releases" 18:41:48 <|amethyst> We could build source tarballs on CDO (or do we already) and link to those 18:41:56 <|amethyst> but I guess people will still find github's :/ 18:42:16 <|amethyst> or would could add util/release_ver to the repo for releases, but that won't help with trunk 18:42:25 <|amethyst> then again, people shouldn't be getting trunk through tarballs 18:42:31 <|amethyst> that defeats the purpose of trunk 18:43:51 <_miek> hmmm damage calculation for vampiric draining doesn't lend itself to just being made a zap spell :S 18:48:52 <|amethyst> hm 18:49:20 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:03 |amethyst: I guess adding util/release_ver for the actual releases would be reasonable. 18:55:09 There's already some awkwardness from updating the debian dir changelog for releases, I wonder if we could have a make target that did "release stuff" or something 18:55:28 I guess that might be more of a script 18:56:36 Like the changelog in the point releases has to be synced to the one in trunk manually, as do the debian changelogs 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:44 -!- meatpath has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:28 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:11:10 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:12:29 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:13:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:15:25 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:15:26 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:27 -!- paulr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:43 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:20:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:24:29 |amethyst: did you see my ttyrec question / are you the right person to ask 19:25:25 <+gammafunk> I guess not very well, since our beta tags are also "releases" <-- github releases can be marked "beta/prerelease" 19:26:36 -!- captainkraft_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:27:28 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:29:19 <|amethyst> chequers: greensnark can host old ones, and does so for CSZO 19:30:22 <|amethyst> chequers: you'd rsync over, say, all the ones up to 2014 (can use wildcards or find or whatever) and then delete them locally 19:30:37 -!- aimrie has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:30:54 <|amethyst> snark has to set something up on varmin and sequell to know which ttyrecs come from where, hence having a specific cutoff date 19:31:49 <|amethyst> chequers: do you keep old binaries, or do you force-transfer all games? 19:32:07 <|amethyst> stripping old binaries can free up quite a bit of space 19:33:19 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:33:37 <|amethyst> but you don't want to do that with any version where you might expect bug reports 19:34:34 I think he does force update, yeah 19:36:29 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:06 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:13 force-transfer 19:39:38 it's not THAT much space, but the data is on EBS volume which is about as reliable as hard drive 19:39:49 I'd like to move S3 which is infinitely reliable 19:40:03 no need for backups & etc 19:40:04 <|amethyst> ah 19:40:12 <|amethyst> err 19:40:22 <|amethyst> what happens if you screw up and delete something? 19:40:40 bucket versioning 19:41:04 <|amethyst> ah 19:41:14 :) 19:41:41 <|amethyst> if you're hosting both, then you'd still need to use a specific cutoff date and inform snark 19:42:32 yeah, I was hoping to say "everything >3 days old" 19:42:45 <|amethyst> that's a little difficult 19:43:03 <|amethyst> since the two servers' definition of "3 days old" might not be the same 19:43:50 yeah 19:44:08 <|amethyst> but you and snark can probably arrange something where you trigger a script that reloads the bots whenever you change the cutoff date 19:44:18 <|amethyst> I guess? 19:44:31 seems reasonable. i'll chat to him about it 19:44:45 i guess the other alternative is "replays aren't available for x days" 19:44:46 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46:03 hm, at a rough guess around half of all replay requests are within 2 days of recording tho 19:47:06 -!- jspengler has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:47:57 <|amethyst> I'm trying to remember if Sequell stores last-played information 19:48:43 http://i.imgur.com/k1hLqYI.png -> http://i.imgur.com/VC9bnWq.png 19:48:50 think this is coming on pretty nicely 19:48:55 did the max range on shock decrease? If so, it's a huge buff, since now you can double-zap by standing 4 steps from any wall. 19:49:10 could probably tone down the halo a bit though 19:49:22 <_miek> it probably decreased as part of the squarelos changes 19:49:22 yeah 19:50:21 I suppose it would also be abusive if it was still range 8 19:51:13 <|amethyst> Bodrick: I like it 19:52:13 i don't think it has much performance impact - i tried to stress test it with qw but it desynced quite quickly between versions 19:52:33 -!- justin3 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 19:53:19 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 19:53:44 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:52 .jugged 19:53:52 12. nago the Executioner (L21 HOSk of Elyvilon), annihilated by a juggernaut (summoned by a giant orange brain) on Depths:2 on 2015-09-07 14:08:03, with 325623 points after 77329 turns and 1:51:09. 19:53:55 Lasty: did you see that one 19:54:20 he teleported from my water palace vault, so I could kind of claim that you stole my kill 19:54:27 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:08 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55:21 gammafunk: it was intentional 19:55:26 I didn't see it yet :D 19:55:34 tho I just ran into a couple on my last win 19:55:42 and they definitely forced me to work harder than normal 19:55:46 I was pretty pleased with them 19:56:05 .jugged -tv 19:56:06 12. nago, XL21 HOSk, T:77329 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 19:56:23 It's more amusing because nago claimed they were basically harmless without range 19:56:46 tbf he was playing with a not terribly well-built char and with not too much concern 19:56:53 haha 19:56:57 seemed like he was just having fun seeing how far he could push ely 19:57:08 That was over really fast 19:57:10 .jugged -tv 19:57:11 12. nago, XL21 HOSk, T:77329 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 19:57:15 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:57:57 oof. he had a chance to tele again or read ?summoning 19:58:05 doing -tv:0.5x or -tv:0.25x can help 19:58:05 shoulda used hydra armour 19:58:11 or is that x0.5 19:58:37 yeah x0.5 and x0.25, sorry 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:32 gammafunk: I take it you haven't run into any Juggernauts yet/ 20:03:17 No, but I finished my bread swinging code! It's excellent in 0.16! 20:03:29 !lm . cv=0.17-a 20:03:29 hahaha 20:03:30 1423. [2015-09-06 11:46:38] gammafunk the Grave Robber (L1 HuNe) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 20:03:33 doing it for the team 20:04:00 Going to do that char sometime soon, but I'll be behind a wall of undead/summons 20:04:06 if I make it to depths, that is 20:04:28 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:05:40 Lasty: bad idea i had: bunch of ru sacrifices as a cost for a trove 20:05:49 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:05:58 Sacrifice Judgement 20:06:22 hahaha 20:06:24 interesting 20:06:34 that would be a very effective cost 20:06:40 I like that idea... 20:06:42 oh, since it's kind of broken for Ru presently? 20:06:49 the piety trove, I mean 20:07:11 I assumed wheals meant a trove that could be used by anyone with that cost 20:07:16 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:17 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07:28 Hrm, that feels really weird to me 20:07:32 maybe block ru worshippers, since they might not have eough available? 20:07:34 -!- Bodrick has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:07:47 i don't know what percentage of them you actually use up in one game 20:08:01 <_miek> I like the idea of an additional sacrifice to enter 20:08:11 wheals: Ru followers will have plenty left 20:08:52 troves could have weird trove-only options too. 20:09:16 now just a minute... 20:09:18 <_miek> that could be cool, although possibly a bit of work 20:10:06 <|amethyst> Lasty: FR: Sacrifice Swimming (Mf, Op only); Sacrifice Blood (Vp only) 20:10:14 i'm happy to volunteer such ideas since i will not be implementing them 20:10:23 }:) 20:10:30 <_miek> Sacrifice Nutrition (get less from everything you eat) could be a fun one 20:10:35 <_miek> just in general 20:10:36 Sacrifice Deity (no more gods) 20:10:37 <|amethyst> Lasty: or perhaps if it's Mf only, Sacrifice Tail 20:10:41 <|amethyst> Sacrifice Meat 20:10:57 nicolae-: sac gods would be great if you already have penance... 20:11:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:06 i meant it more as a trove-only sacrifice 20:11:23 as in instant demigod conduct 20:11:50 -!- Bodrick has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:02 that's a bit too close to piety trove already 20:12:13 fair 20:12:22 <_miek> You could create an early-trove on d2-6 somewhere and sacrifice the ability to ever get a god to enter 20:12:29 |amethyst: sacrifice bite for VS -- worth max piety instantly? :D 20:12:52 _miek: I'd probably take that bargain pretty often. 20:12:54 sacrifice bite and regen 20:13:31 <_miek> Lasty: yeah I'm not sure I would but its definitely viable 20:13:39 Sacrifice Game: max piety, game ends 20:13:42 or how about just sacrifice interest, your species changes to Human 20:13:47 nicolae-: Sacrifice Pikel (no masters) 20:13:55 <_miek> gammafunk: sounds like a good deal for some races 20:14:00 <_miek> most* 20:14:22 gammafunk: sacrifice speed: adds 1 million turns to your turncount. 20:14:33 <_miek> sacrifice score* 20:14:46 noooo 20:14:48 i think i suggested something like Sacrifice Gold in here once, zero gold, can't pick up more 20:15:44 but then it makes incredibly good shops start appearing... 20:16:01 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:16:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:16:58 owned 20:17:46 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 20:17:57 nicolae-: sac gold has come up a few times. I vaguely remember someone making a good argument against it, but I no longer recall what it was. 20:18:22 was that person gozag 20:18:23 <_miek> I just can't imagine it giving much piety 20:19:00 Sacrifice Weapons: can't use any weapons except unarmed 20:19:30 *including unarmed 20:19:50 :O 20:20:18 Sacrifice Chunks: can only eat permafood 20:20:18 <_miek> lol 20:20:22 <_miek> You don't need to do that 20:20:24 <_miek> just offer Sac hand twice 20:20:38 <_miek> conjurations only 20:20:54 Sac Everything: no gold, inventory, spells. 20:20:56 that's a lot worse 20:21:00 since now 0 rings 20:21:05 as opposed two 2 20:21:10 s/two 2/to 2/ 20:21:17 <_miek> true 20:21:29 not to mention you can still use a shield 20:22:22 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:22:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:23:15 <_miek> Do I need to mention that I submitted that patch for 9943? 20:24:19 Technically no, but if a dev has worked on that bug, it's not a bad idea to mention it to them 20:24:58 <_miek> okay 20:26:06 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:11 new challenge; sac hand twice, go trog? 20:27:38 <_miek> how would that work? BiA the entire game? 20:27:52 (that was the joke) 20:28:38 Your auxes will carry you 20:28:40 sacrifice animus: perma fungus form >.> 20:29:49 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:30:18 Sacrifice... can't think of the right word here: occasionally get mesmerized by various enemies obsidian-axe style 20:30:43 focus? 20:30:51 .oO { executive function } 20:31:07 Control, maybe 20:31:47 -!- beefcrumb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:32:11 <_miek> that could be "sacrifice judgment" 20:33:19 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 20:35:10 Felid-only "sacrifice a cat". Uses up one life and stops generating more. 20:35:30 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:53 I was trying to use .. to concatenate strings in python. I've been looking at too much lua 20:41:36 . .. + ~ ++ you are trapped in a twisty maze of languages, all different 20:41:51 -!- Snarg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:41:54 <_miek> don't forget << 20:42:43 if you mean C++, that's not really concatenate, it's the output operator 20:43:00 <_miek> true 20:43:01 well it works like concatenate as well 20:43:22 with string streams 20:43:46 in-memory filehandles >.> 20:45:00 Hey stringstream is in the std lib 20:45:17 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:45:28 <|amethyst> "output", bah... you're left-shifting the data out of the keyboard into memory 20:45:36 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:56 <|amethyst> err 20:46:01 <|amethyst> out of memory into the screen 20:46:03 <|amethyst> it goes 20:46:10 <|amethyst> screen memory keyboard 20:46:28 <|amethyst> I call it the Extended Von Neumann Model 20:47:09 <|amethyst> with ostringstreams, you're saying "put this on the left end of memory" 20:48:58 <_miek> its amazing how you can get something silly and retcon a semi-sensible explanation 20:50:05 C++ does a lot of the former, at least 20:50:34 I was trying to remember why I used std::ostringstream for objstat stuff over std:string, and now I remember 20:50:50 geekosaur> new challenge; sac hand twice, go trog? < You swing your two-headed ogre arm! The giant spiked club hits the goblin!!!! You crush the goblin like a grape!!!!!!! 20:50:51 to set the significant digits using a define 20:51:51 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1777-g4fc8996: Fix util/db_lint. 10(2 minutes ago, 5 files, 13+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4fc8996c046d 20:51:56 that's probably something you could easilly macro, I guess 20:52:10 * wheals has now had enough Perl for the day 20:52:49 there's a limit for daily perl 20:52:52 like with radiation 20:52:55