00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:14 Stable (0.16) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16.2-3-ga078185 00:06:50 -!- jspengler has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:08:51 -!- schisto is now known as schistosoma 00:10:13 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:12:40 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:13:41 -!- vfoley has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:15:03 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:20 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:18:46 -!- Snarg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:22:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:25:47 ??*drain 00:25:47 *drain[1/1]: A randart property which drains you (ignoring rN) when you unequip it. 00:29:25 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:30:56 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:43:09 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:43:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:49:47 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:14 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:42 just to check, I assume that the cyc branch is a joke 00:55:34 Lightli: how can you say that? it is full of implementations of brilliant ideas 00:57:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:34 -!- jspengler has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:58:51 -!- djinni has quit [K-Lined] 00:58:51 -!- dustinm` has quit [K-Lined] 00:59:07 heh 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:30 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:38 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:02:09 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1767-gccbed74 (34) 01:03:21 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:23 -!- Zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:05:51 amalloy: I assume it's a joke because doubling the damage of spells in general seems like a terrible idea 01:06:53 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:06:55 and especially making LCS hit twice as hard, when it already 2-shots basically everything you face in a 3-rune game 01:07:24 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:27 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:27 that just proves you're an old square who's not hip to the cool kids in cyc 01:08:07 also god development feels like it's grown incredibly slow 01:08:22 I don't remember the last significant change to gameplay 01:08:23 speaking of good ideas, how about making mask of the dragon give *dragon ? 01:08:24 %git 3723dc303 01:08:24 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-646-g3723dc3: Remove the 17-year-old bespoke make_name() RNG 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 19+ 49-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3723dc303b7f 01:08:32 weird 01:10:02 oh hi PleasingFungus how's it going 01:10:11 just dropping in to give away @crawlcode 01:10:27 since I wasn't using it and I figured |amethyst might be able to entertain people with it 01:10:44 good, it would be sad for that to go away 01:11:23 hail, fungus 01:11:33 Lightli: http://i.imgur.com/VieM3u7.png check out the commit graph 01:12:10 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:12:48 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:06 I get the impression (sort of watching from a distance) that there's not really a 'primary contributor' in the way that 1kb or gr*nt etc were, right now, so things have slowed down. 01:13:14 maybe they'll pick up again at some point. who knows? 01:13:17 hi ontoclasm! 01:13:33 yeah, it's fallen down a cliff right now 01:14:00 don't complain about that, or somebody will ruin something 01:14:08 I was sort of wondering if there was a feature freeze for a release or something 01:14:17 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16.2-3-ga078185 (34) 01:14:44 PleasingFungus: hi 01:15:00 -!- Undo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:15:10 tbh I feel kind of guilty about leaving, even though that's not super rational 01:15:52 anyway. good night! 01:15:54 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 40.0.3/20150826023504]] 01:15:54 don't feel guilty unless you left in an orgy of blood and flame 01:17:20 when did pleasingfungus leave 01:17:52 a long time ago 01:18:04 few months 01:19:16 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1767-gccbed74 (34) 01:22:42 oh, i missed pleasingfungus 01:26:40 rchandra: i would say, feel guilty unless you left in an orgy of blood and flame 01:27:12 -!- Xeta has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:33:23 !firestorm amalloy 01:33:24 rchandra gestures at amalloy while chanting. 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[2015-04-27 12:26:01] [src=cbro] qw the Talismancer (L25 DDBe of Trog) reached level 5 of the Realm of Zot on turn 61012. (Zot:5) 06:21:18 yeah, LOS = 7 06:21:28 ah, looks like the version in the repo isn't up to date with the one at https://github.com/elliptic/qw 06:21:44 oh, sorry, yeah you're running the one in the repo 06:24:12 @??8-headed hydra 06:24:13 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 57-87 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 975 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 06:31:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:38:58 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:37 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:40:55 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:42:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:46 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:50:30 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51:17 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:45 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:05:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:06:01 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07:12 -!- ManMan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:13:53 Trunk update posted to wordpress 07:14:13 This one was really long; I'll try to get one out at least once a month 07:18:48 MarvinPA: I was about to add something, but I'll wait for you to finished editing 07:19:19 Hopefully the edit isn't "remove all terrible jokes" because then what am I even good for 07:19:24 just fixing a typo (simulacrum), done now 07:19:34 oh yeah, I always misspell that 07:20:03 Forgot to add what was basically the only significant gameplay feature I coded 07:23:29 Maxwell's Cage's ...not sure about that one 07:45:11 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:52:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54:31 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:18:07 -!- Sonderblade has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:22:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I mean, I guess you could make him a torpor snail or give him mesmerize or something instead. 12:42:47 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:43:14 <|amethyst> +1 for torpor Gastronok 12:43:42 <|amethyst> or Chei Gastronok 12:45:22 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus how to twitter? 12:45:22 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 12:47:22 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:49:11 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:27 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:50:40 -!- oho_hups has quit [Quit: bong timeout] 12:52:39 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:53:31 List Formicid as having fast level gain 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9941 by gerbias 12:56:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:59 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16.2-3-ga078185 13:07:55 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1767-gccbed74 (34) 13:09:49 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:21:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:25:48 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:32 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:27:07 -!- mong has quit [Client Quit] 13:27:34 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:33:08 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:33:43 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:13 |amethyst: what happened to the logs? 13:35:26 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:35:46 Lasty: #9924 is intentional, except for the roots effects, right? i know you messed with boots several times (in addition to adding ru) 13:41:00 -!- Fusha has quit [] 13:41:03 mordor gastronok 13:42:01 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:43:45 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:44:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:19 wheals: yeah, that's correct. It should resume flight after Roots wears off, IMO 13:46:32 agreed, same with wings 13:46:42 agreeed 13:46:46 -e 13:47:58 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:49:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:50:13 !killratio gastronok 13:50:16 gastronok wins 6.015% of battles. 13:51:04 wow 13:51:36 Yeah I'm not super big fan of making him into more of a death machine 13:51:41 !killratio gastronok recent 13:51:43 No battles for gastronok and No games for recent.. 13:51:46 !killratio gastronok * recent 13:51:48 gastronok wins 5.809% of battles against * (recent). 13:51:49 -!- ```dsk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:52:08 It's pretty much due to airstike 13:52:15 I'm guessing, at least 13:52:32 !lg * recent ikiller=gastonok s=ckaux 13:52:33 No games for * (recent ikiller=gastonok). 13:52:41 !lg * recent ikiller=gastronok s=ckaux 13:52:42 1749 games for * (recent ikiller=gastronok): 1104x by the air, 645x 13:52:46 right 13:53:22 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:45 !vault uniq_gastronok 13:53:46 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des#l137 13:54:08 Or at least we'd have to reconsider his range, but then it's a different unique 13:56:12 anyone know what's up with the logs? 13:56:31 sorry, which logs? 13:56:44 s-z.org/crawl-dev 13:56:47 they work for me 13:56:53 huh 13:57:15 What happens when you click 'View log'? 13:57:50 well, trying to open up the files themselves redirects to s-z.org 13:58:31 The direct links, like: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/%23%23crawl-dev-20150906.lg ? 13:58:35 That works for me 13:58:37 huh 13:58:46 shows the contents in chrome, at least 13:59:04 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:28 Yeah, both functions also work in my firefox 14:02:58 huh, must be my phone 14:03:19 works for me on the computer now too 14:03:27 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:35 03smitnich02 {wheals} 07* 0.17-a0-1768-ga7a5304: List Formicid along with Halfling and Kobold as non-human races with human experience factor. 10(89 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a7a5304e8d5f 14:04:35 03smitnich02 {wheals} 07* 0.17-a0-1769-g54adf96: Make MUT_BREATHE_FLAMES and MUT_SPIT_POISON mutually exclusive; 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54adf9697850 14:05:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:11 ...but my sticky poison flame breath clouds! 14:07:25 how am I supposed to roll a 24/7 mut pot sword-and-board toon 14:09:37 they were mutually exclusive in a different way before 14:09:52 i think smitnich may be the only person alive who understands the difference 14:14:56 Unnecessary "attack barehanded" confirmation with troll autofight 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9942 by Aule 14:24:20 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:26:00 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:48 huh? 14:42:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:43:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:44:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:01:45 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:13 the description of zin's wrath separately says that he dislikes cannibalism and butchering sentient beings. so is he ok with it if you eat chunks from sentient beings that aren't your own race as long as they were created by ood or /disint or some other non-butchering means? 15:04:43 i think atm the penance triggers on butchering, after chunks got homogenized 15:05:06 huh 15:05:08 interesting 15:05:35 i mean, not that it's particularly useful in most circumstances 15:06:31 hrm 15:06:42 even the power of zin can't distinguish chunks that got homogenized 15:07:18 heh 15:12:34 .jugged x=dam 15:12:34 11. [dam=93] Barf the Nimble (L20 DgIE), annihilated by a juggernaut on Depths:2 (minmay_misc_feat_tower) on 2015-09-06 19:00:53, with 320716 points after 82375 turns and 11:00:33. 15:12:38 .jugged x=dam,src 15:12:38 11. [dam=93;src=cszo] Barf the Nimble (L20 DgIE), annihilated by a juggernaut on Depths:2 (minmay_misc_feat_tower) on 2015-09-06 19:00:53, with 320716 points after 82375 turns and 11:00:33. 15:12:51 .jugged -tv:<2:channel=jugged 15:12:52 11. Barf, XL20 DgIE, T:82375 requested for jugged: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:13:06 nice. 15:13:08 .phyte 15:13:12 @?? juggernaut skeleton 15:13:12 juggernaut skeleton (15Z) | Spd: 13 | HD: 20 | HP: 128-156 | AC/EV: 14/3 | Dam: 116 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(26), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1426 | Sz: Giant | Int: brainless. 15:13:18 13. whw the Merfolkian Porcupine (L18 MfBe of Trog), slain by a shambling mangrove on Swamp:3 (nicolae_swamp_phyte_club) on 2015-08-24 11:18:13, with 201412 points after 36269 turns and 2:55:56. 15:13:18 so are these still broken 15:13:33 are what still broken 15:13:43 undead juggernauts 15:13:49 they're more powerful than berserk orb guardians 15:14:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:05 how does that happen 15:14:08 i think it was fixed, kvaak 15:14:15 %git :/energy 15:14:15 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1754-gcb87171: Inherit energy modifiers in derived undead (Lasty). 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb87171553a7 15:14:16 is @?? just outdated then 15:14:21 kay 15:14:28 ah 15:14:41 1learn add is_@??_outdated always 15:14:42 ah, so the zombies still had the strong punch but without the lag afterwards 15:14:48 yes 15:14:58 a juggernaut zombie could beat a berserk orb guardian two times out of three 15:15:06 i see. 15:15:16 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:59 who uses conjure flame in depths 15:16:23 oof 15:16:39 oofs don't even have conjure flame 15:16:40 I like that he got flanked by something invisible 15:16:47 .jugged -log 15:16:48 11. Barf, XL20 DgIE, T:82375: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Barf/morgue-Barf-20150906-190053.txt 15:17:03 was that three !!!!s in a row 15:17:05 !dam !!!! 15:17:05 71.0 - 143.0 15:17:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:17:30 shouldna been standing there 15:17:40 -90, good final hp 15:18:01 yeah it was three big hits in a row 15:20:58 time to make a juggernaut depths vault 15:22:05 how many vaults do you have on mantis 15:22:20 let me see 15:22:47 one ticket with five vaults but i'll probably post new additional ones to it soon 15:22:59 my only other open tickets are my unrand and a wizard mode bug 15:23:07 though i'm guessing frostbite's not going anywhere anytime soon 15:23:09 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:24 i was looking at the patches on mantis 15:24:31 there are just too many and too few devs 15:24:35 rip 15:24:40 there's a lot, yeah 15:25:26 hm making pubby a dev would signficantly cut down on the number 15:26:21 risky. 15:27:12 new policy: anyone who speaks in the channel in the next hour becomes a dev 15:27:20 or your money back 15:28:17 * amalloy ponders silently whether he can get away with just emotes for an hour 15:28:38 i think emotes count 15:28:44 are you a dev? 15:28:54 this channel clearly needs more sexy elves 15:28:56 be honest! 15:29:23 @??duvessa name:cow_muffins n_rpl 15:29:23 cow muffins (02e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 35 | AC/EV: 3/8 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 142 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 15:30:02 amalloy: don't think you can escape! we'll rope you in to guilt you into working more, just like they did with me! 15:30:26 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30:27 dev requirements: you run a version of windows not released in the last decade 15:30:41 define "decade" 15:30:54 arbitrary units of decade 15:31:10 arbitrary decades of time imo 15:31:12 at some point i might get around to more minor patches (unrands, maybe mutations, who knows) 15:31:40 right now I'm going to write a script to update rcs via websockets 15:31:45 since I'm tired of doing that manually 15:31:58 cool, cool 15:32:02 hopefully the python libraries don't let me down 15:32:03 someone should graph commits by people before and after becoming devs 15:32:18 I don't know if guilting them into working more has a 100% success rate 15:32:27 gammafunk: i'm choosing to believe that rcs here is the predecessor to cvs 15:32:33 hm, there are 6 patches by sandman25 15:32:39 now there's a good dev candidate 15:32:41 "update rcs via websockets" the ultimate hipster dream 15:34:03 maybe i should merge zigfigs, then i can close his zig patch 15:34:50 amalloy: nonsense, of course I'd use the original rcp to update my rcs 15:36:21 gammafunk: no, i think it's better if you mix the old with the new. like https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/8929 15:37:44 hah, i run linux and chromeOS; no old versions of windows =P 15:37:59 The great thing about that is how good a prop it'd be. 15:38:22 Make a big scene out of you using a rotary phone anywhere since it has no phone cord 15:39:27 wheals: he had a patch for rc mapping of abilitiy slots, no? 15:39:37 like how we do for items now 15:39:40 |amethyst was working on it i think 15:39:42 *ability 15:40:00 but then PF moved the code into a new file and the merge conflicts got nasty 15:42:07 does HDA.rc have autobutcher? 15:42:18 i'm thinking of resolving #6258 15:42:45 also the last commit there 15:42:48 %git eb1ddec08d7 15:42:48 07rriegs02 * 0.12-a0-559-geb1ddec: Check if cursed weapons prevent butchery before prompting for corpses. 10(2 years, 11 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb1ddec08d70 15:42:54 the code is a wee bit old 15:55:49 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:09 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:17 squishfish (L18 GrFi) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3179 failed. (D (Sprint)) 16:17:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 16:23:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:25:17 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:26:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:37:53 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 16:42:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:43:44 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:48:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:54:54 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:52 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:27 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:26 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:24:26 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:28 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:20 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:03 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:17 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:27:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:28:10 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 17:28:25 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:31:36 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:33:31 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:04 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:35:51 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:38:23 ontoclasm: I like the mummy tile tweaks you made. I was a bit worried that the high priest might look like a bader dude than the great mummy, but after I looked at it a bit it seems fine 17:38:41 The red and the special head garb are good. Maybe his staff could be fancier, but it's all-gold already 17:39:22 archaeo said they remind him of "bobble-head toys". Maybe we could implement that in an animated png|gif 17:40:13 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:57 hah 17:41:35 i'm not really sure what to do with them :( 17:41:53 like, people complain that they look similar, but i can't see it at all 17:42:07 well they look much more similar than old mummies 17:42:11 my only complaint is that they look too goofy 17:42:28 they have very cartoony proportions 17:42:30 kvaak: really? like... old-old mummies or the stiff-looking ones? 17:42:43 CanOfWorms: did you see the edited ones 17:42:45 it's actually very similar to banjo kazooie's art styles 17:42:48 old-old, with the zombie braaaaaiiinnsssss regular mummy 17:42:49 i toned that down a lot 17:42:58 the news are better 17:43:41 kvaak: idk, i don't feel that way 17:43:45 honestly isn't that closer to crawl's tone 17:43:54 like the hands are really big 17:44:10 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:44:10 from a purely objective point of view they take more space than the new giant's hands 17:44:16 yeah 17:44:31 the standard mummy is especially cartoony 17:44:43 that's why i didn't edit it; i'm going to have to pretty much redraw the whole thing 17:45:35 well come on, would we not all drop dcss and go out and play the Undead Banjo Kazooie roguelike immediately if it was released?! 17:46:29 yes, I would 17:46:50 the old sarcophagus greater mummy was nice in that it was really creepy 17:47:07 now it is an ushabti 17:47:10 I think> 17:47:12 *? 17:47:19 oh, don't think...oh maybe it is 17:47:22 @??ushabti 17:47:22 ushabti (078) | Spd: 8 | HD: 7 | HP: 40-53 | AC/EV: 9/6 | Dam: 30 | 11non-living, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy | XP: 258 | Sp: death rattle (2d4) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 17:47:26 i don't see how any of those are sarcophagus 17:47:35 the ones that jejorda2 posted? 17:47:43 No, I mean the "original" 17:47:50 before ontoclasms first rework 17:47:58 also menkaure needs his sweet hat again 17:48:15 Freeze spell can be cast at any range with ! or @ 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9943 by Appriser 17:48:18 that was definitely a defining aspect of his tile 17:48:33 hm that's a good bug 17:48:47 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/stone_soup-0.11/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/mon/undead/greater_mummy.png 17:48:59 i did kind of like that one 17:49:07 but yeah, ushabti look like that now 17:49:26 so i love that (a) opens the menu now, but i still have muscle memory for a*, which takes me back to the main screen unable to use any abilities 17:49:34 is it crazy to make (*) do nothing on that screen? 17:50:00 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: RIP] 17:50:22 I actually haven't tried to use abilities that you tend to invoke a lot, like sif channel, with that change 17:50:25 -!- SlyFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:50:31 I was thinking that the screen flash might indeed get very annoying 17:50:40 i guess we can revert 17:50:48 anyway i reproduced the bug 17:50:50 <|amethyst> I'd rather make it an option 17:50:55 i wonder... was that bug ever introduced 17:50:58 or has it always been 17:52:32 and you thought IE was strong 17:53:03 DickyLongcocking (L3 MfSk) ASSERT(load_mode != LOAD_VISITOR) in 'files.cc' at line 1336 failed. (D:2) 17:53:09 !lg . mfie / won 17:53:09 0/16 games for kvaak (mfie): N=0/16 (0.00%) 17:53:15 .jugged 17:53:20 11. Barf the Nimble (L20 DgIE), annihilated by a juggernaut on Depths:2 (minmay_misc_feat_tower) on 2015-09-06 19:00:53, with 320716 points after 82375 turns and 11:00:33. 17:53:20 it seems you can smite target with freeze 17:53:32 does it work behind grates 17:53:55 Lasty1: Not sure if you saw Barf aka greedo's death to a juggernaut, but he has a YASD thread in tavern 17:54:32 When I saw that it was DgIE I wondered in the back of my head if they were the same as the CiP I saw on tavern, and turns out they were 17:54:44 So good job Lasty transitioning a CiP to YASD 17:55:31 kvaak: yep 17:55:49 not rock though, it claims it's out of range\ 17:56:08 <|amethyst> wheals: yeah, works with grates going back to 0.10 17:56:23 how far does doing it at range go back? 17:56:35 -!- Appriser has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:56:37 <|amethyst> haven't tried earlier: that's as far back as CSZO goes 17:57:08 <|amethyst> So IE has been awesome all this time, but no one knew it until now 17:57:08 ah, that makes it easier 17:57:27 need to check if it works in 4.1 17:57:32 !learn add epic_bugs From 0.10 to 0.16 freeze and vampiric draining had smite targeting if you used !. 17:57:32 epic bugs[27/27]: From 0.10 to 0.16 freeze and vampiric draining had smite targeting if you used !. 17:57:42 ahaha 17:58:01 why are @/! even things? 17:58:11 same with : 17:58:13 wheals: ! makes sense at least 17:58:25 !learn e epic_bugs[27 s/\!/\! or \@/ 17:58:25 epic bugs[27/27]: From 0.10 to 0.16 freeze and vampiric draining had smite targeting if you used ! or @. 17:58:44 so you can get angles towards stuff in LOS that you "could" get without ! if only the targeting were more granular 17:58:45 yeah, since you can't actually hit the target with @ i don't see what the point of having both is 17:58:56 what does @ do? 17:58:57 unfortunately ~nobody knows about it 17:59:06 "fire, stop at target, ignore range" 17:59:16 ah 17:59:27 i stumbled upon it accidentally because it moves you when you're in x mode 17:59:33 but then it just acts like . 17:59:49 <|amethyst> yeah, that's the difference 17:59:58 <|amethyst> @ and ! are the same if you actually are out of range 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:10 <|amethyst> but they differ if you are in range 18:00:24 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:25 oh yeah, so you can get the behaviour of @ with !/., depending 18:00:33 hold on, isn't that just . 18:00:38 right 18:00:38 or does . require you to be in range 18:00:43 . is in range 18:00:46 <|amethyst> . doesn't work out of range 18:01:02 so in range @ is the same as ., and out of range @ is the same as ! 18:01:53 yup 18:03:46 <|amethyst> key in LOS out 18:03:46 <|amethyst> to edge refuse 18:03:46 <|amethyst> . to targ refuse 18:03:46 <|amethyst> ! to edge to edge 18:03:46 <|amethyst> @ to targ to edge 18:04:15 <|amethyst> err 18:04:17 <|amethyst> s/LOS/range/ 18:05:10 <|amethyst> in 4.1 it looks like freeze has a directional targeter 18:05:15 <|amethyst> so it doesn 18:05:18 <|amethyst> 't go back that far 18:05:36 <|amethyst> but probably does go back to whenever it got a targetter 18:05:45 %git be1ab934 18:05:45 07by02 * 0.6.0-a1-2624-gbe1ab93: Disallow Freeze and Vampiric Draining from affecting submerged monsters. 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/be1ab9342e8b 18:05:52 also not as far back as 0.6 18:06:24 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:06:31 <|amethyst> hopefully it was already there by 0.9 18:06:39 <|amethyst> so I know I had no hand in it :P 18:07:23 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1769-g54adf96 (34) 18:07:42 %git d31d7584ae39422c3ba7 18:07:42 07haranp02 * 0.5-a0-366-gd31d758: 2058436: better interface for the range-1 attack spells. 10(7 years ago, 4 files, 37+ 63-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d31d7584ae39 18:08:22 -!- captainkraft_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08:26 oh yeah i misread the first commit 18:08:35 !learn e epic_bugs[27 s/10/5 18:08:35 epic bugs[27/27]: From 0.5 to 0.16 freeze and vampiric draining had smite targeting if you used ! or @. 18:08:52 that's a lot of versions 18:08:54 !lg * 1 x=cv 18:08:55 1/4606488. [cv=0.1] Eidolos the Magician (L1 OMWz), slain by a gnoll (a flail of protection) on D:1 on 2006-12-02 23:47:10, with 20 points after 15 turns and 0:00:04. 18:09:04 !lg * 1 cv=0.5 18:09:05 1/241184. Tityrus the Spear-Bearer (L8 CeCK of Lugonu), mangled by a yak on D:8 on 2008-07-12 08:08:32, with 2110 points after 7106 turns and 0:42:43. 18:09:26 !lg !sebi 1 cv=0.5 18:09:27 1/217377. Tityrus the Spear-Bearer (L8 CeCK of Lugonu), mangled by a yak on D:8 on 2008-07-12 08:08:32, with 2110 points after 7106 turns and 0:42:43. 18:09:42 oh, only 4k 18:09:43 huh 18:09:52 er 18:09:57 i can't count 18:10:18 23k 18:10:46 i'm not going to try to build 0.5 to test if it really worked 18:13:19 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:39 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:21 -!- Banee has quit [] 18:16:38 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:16:48 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 18:18:43 i did not know about [27] 18:20:15 <|amethyst> !learn edit epic_bugs[27] s/smite/full-LOS smite/ 18:20:15 epic bugs[27/27]: From 0.5 to 0.16 freeze and vampiric draining had full-LOS smite targeting if you used ! or @. 18:20:28 are there other types of smite targeting 18:20:30 oh its very recently reported 18:20:47 yes, smite targeting implies full los 18:21:11 <|amethyst> ah 18:21:13 i dont think 1 range smite targeting does anything special 18:21:30 <|amethyst> !learn edit epic_bugs[27] s/full-LOS // 18:21:31 epic bugs[27/27]: From 0.5 to 0.16 freeze and vampiric draining had smite targeting if you used ! or @. 18:21:42 <|amethyst> I was thinking there were shorter-range smite spells 18:21:53 well there's fire storm 18:22:22 hm, it doesn't go through grates though 18:22:31 <|amethyst> which? 18:22:35 fire storm 18:22:36 <|amethyst> ah 18:22:44 <|amethyst> SPFLAG_GRID vs SPFLAG_TARGET 18:23:02 <|amethyst> I guess probably conj flame doesn't go through grates either? 18:23:29 <|amethyst> hm, no, it does 18:24:12 <|amethyst> fire storm does seem to go through grates 18:24:21 really? huh 18:24:30 <|amethyst> the explosion doesn't 18:24:38 <|amethyst> but the centre can be placed on either side 18:25:00 what about lightning spire 18:25:12 if there's any consistency I'd expect it to go through grates too 18:25:44 <|amethyst> grates are apparently fine enough to block explosions but not enough to block magic 18:26:04 <|amethyst> I bet statues are the same :) 18:26:07 gammafunk: that's what I'm here for! 18:27:32 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:32:35 .crushed 18:32:36 251. pinm the Fighter (L16 VSFi of Ashenzari), thrown by an octopode crusher on Shoals:3 (cheibrodos_shoals_oceanic_diplomacy) on 2015-09-05 04:48:25, with 125847 points after 27452 turns and 1:56:46. 18:33:01 I should look through some of these and see if throw ever did anything like what its intent was 18:34:22 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:35:03 /msg |amethyst Hey - bh told me to message you about resetting my password for my on cao; is that something you can do for me? 18:35:10 lol whoops 18:35:17 <|amethyst> miserium: sure :) 18:35:43 :) 18:36:38 question for you while I got ya - how does stats on cao work if I also play on cszo? For example, it says my first game was 3/2015, but that was the first time I started playing on cszo after a long while off 18:36:54 otherwise, I still have a game in progress on cao from 2009 :) 18:37:05 <|amethyst> !lg miserium 1 18:37:05 1/89. miserium the Chopper (L7 MiBe of Trog), slain by an ogre (a cursed -2 giant club) on D:4 on 2015-03-18 23:19:05, with 524 points after 3924 turns and 0:35:00. 18:37:17 <|amethyst> I think that only counts finished games 18:37:29 !lm miserium 1 18:37:30 1/843. [2009-07-30 16:29:32] Miserium the Chopper (L6 MDFi) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 4672. (Temple) 18:37:40 there it is 18:37:40 i don't think that game is still there 18:38:09 wow, that was indeed a long time ago 18:38:14 !lm miserium 1 x=cv 18:38:14 1/843. [2009-07-30 16:29:32] [cv=0.5] Miserium the Chopper (L6 MDFi) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 4672. (Temple) 18:38:26 miserium: imo invest in freeze 18:38:36 <|amethyst> yeah, the game is gone 18:39:02 <|amethyst> but there's no end-of-game record so it might show up as an ongoing game forever 18:39:06 for whatever reason, on my stats page, it says it still in progress 18:39:18 <|amethyst> yeah, stats page only has the milestones and logfiles to go by 18:39:31 that's why I was curious how it merges stats from cao and cszo 18:39:42 <|amethyst> but the save game isn't there because we didn't build 0.5 for new CAO 18:40:06 <|amethyst> it gets a separate set of milestone and end-of-game logs for each version and for each server 18:40:26 <|amethyst> !lm miserium 1 x=gid 18:40:26 1/843. [2009-07-30 16:29:32] [game_key=Miserium:cao:20090621174543S] Miserium the Chopper (L6 MDFi) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 4672. (Temple) 18:40:41 <|amethyst> games are identified by the server and the start-of-game timestamp 18:40:53 <|amethyst> by scoring and sequell that is 18:41:00 <|amethyst> scoring and sequell essentially work the same way 18:41:16 name, server, and timestamp 18:41:17 <|amethyst> but store the data with a different schema and do different things with it 18:41:28 <|amethyst> right, right 18:41:43 otherwise there would be a lot of identical games at the start of tournaments :) 18:42:01 <|amethyst> you can still confuse it probably 18:42:19 <|amethyst> by starting (say) a trunk and an 0.16 game at the same time 18:42:34 <|amethyst> miserium: does this yahoo address still work? 18:42:45 oh nope; that one's gone. 18:42:51 was it datac0re@ 18:42:54 <|amethyst> yes 18:42:57 nope that's dead 18:43:02 <|amethyst> what's your current address? 18:43:26 <|amethyst> actually 18:43:33 <|amethyst> I'll just private message the new password 18:46:54 so then, not that it really matters; but in theory then if anyone creates an account with the same name on a different server, their stats would get mixed in with mine? 18:47:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:47:43 on the website yes, in irc you can specify servers with !nick 18:48:34 <|amethyst> you should register an account on each server probably 18:48:52 <|amethyst> there have been streak snipers in the past 18:48:55 k 18:49:03 <|amethyst> particularly using the newer Asian servers 18:49:06 <|amethyst> ??servers 18:49:06 servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cszo}, {cbro}; EU: {cdo}, {cue}, {cxc}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo} 18:49:12 hah, i definitely don't need to worry about that one for me :) 18:50:27 so once I play another game on cao, will it update my "games in progress" stat? 18:50:37 <|amethyst> I'm not sure 18:50:41 <|amethyst> Probably not 18:51:02 well darn, that stinks 18:51:07 <|amethyst> since that game is 0.5 and any new game would be different 18:51:09 <|amethyst> hm 18:51:11 <|amethyst> let me see 18:51:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:43 -!- Nerty has quit [Client Quit] 19:02:43 -!- Gorgo_1 is now known as Gorgo_ 19:06:47 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:00 <|amethyst> hrm, I tried adding an entry for your game, but it didn't seem to work 19:14:26 <|amethyst> sequell might not be looking for that file anymore, but scoring should be so I'm not sure what's up 19:14:47 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:16:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:16:02 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:22 gammafunk: I think android players should get a 'install on google play' icon 19:16:36 well, all users should 19:16:55 Is that what his store page has? 19:17:13 We're talking about his particular online client in the google store 19:17:23 which is a wrapper for the servers 19:17:45 well it's a wrapper for the browser interacting with each server I guess 19:17:58 I mean it'd be a link to the store page 19:18:27 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:18:51 this icon is what i'm talking about: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MM8FgY6MAmI/U9MNL5wZbtI/AAAAAAAABSY/jGzVAlAmRaA/s1600/get%2Bit%2Bon%2Bthe%2Bgoogle%2Bplay%2Bstore%2Bbutton.png 19:19:08 Yeah that makes more sense 19:19:15 a "Get it on google play" button 19:19:35 since the install button is made by the store and we don't really want to mess with that 19:19:41 in terms of having it on our page 19:20:06 right, I don't think you could anyway 19:20:15 There's also the issue of us not really having any control over this dcssonline app 19:20:35 well, same with the linux builds, right? 19:20:36 e.g. if a server changes or something weird happens 19:20:46 No, we make thoose 19:21:00 <|amethyst> not the Fedora ones 19:21:02 If you mean some of the android builds, yeah 19:21:20 Yeah, we don't make fedora packages, that's true 19:21:28 <|amethyst> the difference is, those are an offline version and there usually isn't a need to make an urgent push 19:21:29 anyhow I'm just pointing that out 19:21:38 <|amethyst> IMO invite this android dude to the dev team 19:21:49 <|amethyst> s/dude/& or dudette/ 19:22:06 Yeah maybe so...I guess he's not going to actually commit things to our repo if he's just making the app? 19:22:16 Maybe we could host the repo or something 19:22:30 we being "crawl on github" 19:23:01 <|amethyst> and maybe there are things that could be done crawl- or webtiles-side to improve the experience 19:23:18 anyway, i'll mock something up 19:25:39 @??caustic_shrike name:mocking_shrike n_rpl 19:25:39 mocking shrike (09b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 18 | HP: 90-123 | AC/EV: 8/18 | Dam: 3608(acid:7d3) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire, 02cold, 08blind | XP: 4620 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 19:27:06 mocking shrike (09b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 18 | HP: 90-123 | AC/EV: 8/18 | Dam: 3608(acid:7d3) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire, 02cold, 08blind | XP: 4620 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 19:27:06 %??caustic_shrike name:mocking_shrike 19:27:15 guess n_rpl isn't necessary 19:32:41 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it is in game 19:32:46 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:32:55 <|amethyst> or you get "Mocking shrike the caustic shrike comes into view." 19:33:01 heh 19:33:16 right, makes sens 19:33:16 e 19:33:28 <|amethyst> there is an open bug about "young the spriggan druid simulacrum" or something like that 19:33:46 he died so young... 19:33:56 -!- zkyp has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:38:36 something like this https://crawl.project357.org/static/site/download.html 19:39:26 <|amethyst> Should at least credit the author 19:39:39 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: RIP] 19:40:05 <|amethyst> (as we do with BlasterBlade's Fedora packages) 19:40:42 ok 19:41:23 <|amethyst> also, "offline tiles client" links to the ASCII version? 19:41:37 working as intended! 19:42:55 <|amethyst> (and they're in the wrong column for tiles builds) 19:44:38 Lasty1: This is what you miss (aside from conversations with mps) by not being a part of tiles chat: [Bamboomancer]: Hey gamma [Bamboomancer]: I have an idea for a god champion unique [Bamboomancer]: It's an ettin who worships ru and sacrificed his other head for great power 19:44:50 <|amethyst> haha 19:45:03 <|amethyst> \ 19:45:05 <|amethyst> doh 19:51:19 oops yeah, I missed that 19:51:50 is that console build official? 19:51:54 i dont recognise the name 19:56:25 chequers: well I was actually talking about the home page 19:56:39 Since for android users, they need that to actually play 19:57:01 *to play online in webtiles 19:57:41 yeah 19:57:45 also it's not really an offline tiles client 19:57:49 I'm not sure how we should handle that 19:57:50 it's just offline tiles 19:58:03 true 19:58:56 I guess we could do user-agent matching in the 'play online now' js that says 'hey, you're using android! we recommend you use the android app which has better keyboard support" 19:59:00 Not sure if we should even link the webtiles client on the download page, but I guess android is just different that way 19:59:22 Well android users can't actually play at all afaik unless they use something like that client 19:59:46 <|amethyst> ? 19:59:47 it's device dependant, I played a few games on my phone 19:59:50 ah ok 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:07 <|amethyst> probably it's easier with a real keyboard and a large-ish display? 20:00:08 |amethyst: they can't play in webtiles at all, I was trying to say 20:00:17 <|amethyst> oh? 20:00:19 Yeah in some devices 20:00:21 <|amethyst> even with a keyboard? 20:00:21 <|amethyst> ah 20:00:24 But I don't know the details 20:00:34 there are issues with focus in mobile chrome 20:00:46 also, certain keys like Escape are not mapped in the default kb 20:00:53 <_miek> the key presses don't typically move into the game I think 20:01:07 <_miek> unless you use that client yeah 20:01:10 Perhaps it'd be best then to link android users to the client 20:01:14 anyway, the UI on mobie phone is still atrocious even with the app, but it's quite decent on tablet 20:01:33 <_miek> I still stand by the unofficial console port as the best one 20:01:34 I guess you could do some device detection to parse it out 20:01:40 <_miek> even if it has that weird stair-dancing bug 20:01:46 <_miek> also fedhas bug 20:01:52 those sound promisinng 20:01:57 s/nn/n/ 20:02:46 hey just popped back in - the reason I made the online webtiles is 1. so that I could actually play online since you can't in an android browser, and 2. to always be able to play trunk. 20:02:48 Even if you don't replace the play online button on android, it probably needs a prominent display under that button for android platforms 20:03:08 miserium: yeah, we're not sure which devices have to use your client to use webtiles 20:03:28 Thing about the official android build (which I build the nightlies of on http://crawl.newtzie.com/), is that I always seem to have issues with it 20:03:29 Apparently some android tablets are fine? 20:03:51 I'm not aware of any that actually work 20:03:57 my one concern is changing the frontpage appearance based on user-agent, which I think is non-optimal 20:04:21 I think doing a 'install app' popup when people press 'play now' is the way to go 20:04:40 Well you could always place it I suppose, but basically that "click to play now" button is broken on android and there's no mention of what to do 20:04:46 Plus, to stay current, people would have to keep downloading the nightlies - by using my app, they can stay current with nightlies without downloading any new apk every day 20:05:14 I made it to give back to the game - if you guys would like, I could always just give you the source if you want it to be a part of the real repos 20:05:37 Yeah Grunt put together the apk but we don't have anyone maintaining it (and the situation isn't much better for Tiles, but at least many of us can fix things there) 20:05:53 s/Tiles/Tiles in general/ 20:06:20 Repo for DCSS Online is here: https://github.com/miserium/dcss-online 20:08:04 I had put it under GPL so that it'd be the same as the crawl source if you ever wanted it 20:08:38 That's cool, we were talking about giving you commit access, maybe moving it to the crawl github org 20:09:06 just so others could potentially add servers etc if need be, but the one that goes to the store is still yours, I guess 20:09:23 I suppose we could make a crawl google play account 20:10:29 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:06 miserium: We're probably going to figure out a way to link to your google play entry for dcss-online for now, but we'll keep in touch about any other plans 20:11:10 Thanks for putting that together 20:11:17 ok sure no problem 20:11:37 I was happy to :) 20:11:48 gotta head out though - thanks guys! 20:12:20 -!- miserium has left ##crawl-dev 20:12:27 -!- miserium has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:13:13 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:27 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:19:28 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:14 -!- yottam_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:24:11 ok, visit this on android https://crawl.project357.org/static/site/play.html 20:35:26 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 20:36:05 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:36 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:41:53 dang, wish I could 20:42:12 hrm, maybe I can install some android emulator thing 20:42:29 an android android? 20:43:47 here https://goo.gl/photos/VZWKyHw1EDFLNfGm6 20:44:08 that's play.html 20:44:12 looks nice 20:44:23 -using 20:45:23 Trog roars: "Android Users! Trog say net browse magic no work on..." 20:45:52 does webtiles work on ios btw? 20:46:17 I don't think the client worked in my iphone 4 when I tried 20:48:24 I see that cpo is conspicuously listed first in the server list... 20:49:20 oh, isn't cszo actually in florida 20:49:24 ha ha ha power!! 20:49:42 <_miek> that's because cpo is closest to crawl's homeland 20:49:45 orly? 20:49:58 oh Georgia 20:50:05 oh, guess it was moved to georgia 20:50:15 <_miek> chequers: have you seen the warning on CPO's homepage about CPU throttle? 20:50:20 I guess I should describe the location as Florida, Australia 20:50:33 _miek: yeah there was some build bug that tried to continuously rebuild trunk for about 72hrs 20:50:43 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:50:44 it'll go away in a week or so 20:50:53 *Florida, USA 20:51:10 I thought that was a joke 20:51:13 oh wait, Georgia is a state isn't it. that description is probably fine 20:51:23 * chequers was thinking Georgia was a town in FL 20:51:27 haha 20:53:04 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 20:53:56 ok, visit that link with your iphone 20:53:59 tell me if you get an ios prompt 20:57:15 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:08 <|amethyst> I was never able to determine for sure whether it's in their Tampa or their Atlanta data center, but I think it's Atlanta 21:00:21 <|amethyst> geoiplookup says Tampa but it's just showing the ISP's address 21:02:12 <|amethyst> (I think) 21:04:06 chequers: yeah, I get the ios message 21:08:36 I guess I should make the download page work on mobile browsers too 21:09:25 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:09:32 -!- AlphaQ_ is now known as AlphaQ 21:13:25 gammafunk: for release https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/dcss-website/commit/59956466baf143e800c605142708a019ef43b9bd 21:17:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:45 -!- imaginarythomas has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:21:34 chequers: I'll tweak that a bit in a commit and then update a bit later 21:22:03 It's not great to have the WebTiles client on the download page, since that's kind of different from the idea of that page 21:22:26 but android is a bit weird in that Tiles already doesn't work that well (and we don't have 0.16.2 builds) 21:22:49 Actually I'm not sure if that mouse issue even affects android at all, but it was fixed in 0.16.2 21:23:12 <|amethyst> I suspect it would affect android with a real keyboard 21:23:20 <|amethyst> likely not osk 21:23:29 <|amethyst> but I have no clue 21:23:43 yeah I just need to install that android emulator thing 21:23:44 <|amethyst> I broke my keyboard yesterday so was using xvkb with a mouse for a while :/ 21:23:52 heh 21:24:03 letting a cat walk across it to get new demon names? 21:24:12 <|amethyst> and when I went keyboard shopping, I found exactly one keyboard that has both right-window and menu keys 21:24:31 <|amethyst> I'm sure I could find one online, but I didn't want to wait to have a keyboard :) 21:24:40 <|amethyst> s/one/more/ 21:24:52 <|amethyst> gammafunk: reading tavern of course 21:24:56 <|amethyst> snapped it right in half 21:25:02 that'll happen 21:25:13 Yeah my laptop has no menu and only left window 21:25:21 <|amethyst> (spilled a soda on it) 21:25:43 <|amethyst> it sparked and killed the USB port, so it must have been a bad spot 21:25:48 oh I guess this fn+f9 is probably a menu key 21:26:00 <|amethyst> yeah, that doesn't work for my purposes 21:26:02 but that's awful to use 21:26:06 <|amethyst> I need hyper and compose over there 21:26:11 <|amethyst> and super for left window 21:26:48 hyper|amethyst 21:26:55 <|amethyst> (I could replace right ctrl I guess, if I had to switch to one with just menu over there; if it's just Fn, I give up unless it reports a scancode for that) 21:27:18 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:21 <|amethyst> Super goes to my wm, hyper I could probably live without (it's just for emacs, which I use only for mail) 21:27:30 <|amethyst> compose I cannot live without 21:28:17 compose? 21:28:34 <|amethyst> you hit compose then a sequence of two or more keys, and it gives you something fancy 21:28:41 <|amethyst> compose ' a = á 21:28:51 <|amethyst> compose o e = Å“ 21:28:57 ah, I see 21:28:57 <|amethyst> etc 21:29:39 <|amethyst> the director of graduate studies in my department (who used to be the department chair, and with whom I have co-authored a few papers) has both Å‚ and Å„ in his name, so... 21:30:23 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:30:23 <|amethyst> and things like compose < 3 = ♥ 21:30:42 would make my duolingo sessions better I'm sure, to have that 21:30:51 -!- emikaela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:31:25 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 21:31:32 <|amethyst> and smart quotes compose < ' = ‘ 21:31:46 <|amethyst> em dash compose - - - 21:32:02 <|amethyst> useful even if you only write in English 21:32:13 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:33:08 i started using compose just in time to switch to osx, which is somewhat compose-hostile 21:33:13 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:35:39 keyboards have dropped right win and menu yeh 21:39:16 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I still see some with menu 21:40:37 gammafunk: makes sense 21:40:59 <|amethyst> oh, two: the microsoft ergonomic still had rwin and menu, but it had the weird navkey layout 21:41:14 <|amethyst> with Ins up where printscr should be, and scroll lock missing 21:41:45 |amethyst: g ~ gammafunk instead of g ~ geekosaur strikes again 21:42:01 <|amethyst> doh 21:42:15 <|amethyst> nothing but a G thing, baby 21:42:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:45:53 * geekosaur noticed new laptop lacked them and then remembered some dictum that came out with windows 8 that those keys were no longer wanted 21:46:27 g-oofup? 21:46:51 <|amethyst> geekosaur: I guess microsoft : keyboard manufacturers :: Texas : textbook publishers 21:47:07 s/keyboard/computer 21:47:29 <|amethyst> when you put it that way it's obvious... 21:47:41 (with the exception of apple, who are even worse abut it...) 21:49:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:55:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:31 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:40 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:07:21 -!- Zaba_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:26 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:02 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:52 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:26 -!- Cerpin has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:26 -!- dtsund has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:26 -!- Cacophony has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:27 -!- FIQ has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:27 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:28 -!- Guest90290 has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:28 -!- panicbit has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:28 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:28 -!- Kramin has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:28 -!- roxton has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:29 -!- buppy has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:30 -!- Zaba has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:30 -!- Lantell has quit [*.net *.split] 22:15:31 -!- Zaba_ is now known as Zaba 22:15:34 -!- Guest19009 is now known as FIQ 22:15:43 -!- infrashortfoo_ is now known as infrashortfoo 22:16:04 -!- FIQ is now known as Guest46699 22:17:39 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:18:06 -!- Zeia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:30 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:18 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I think my hardcoded pixel heights fix IE 23:59:39 anyway, i'll try to release soon