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08:39:05 <Lantell> 4tharraofdagon (L16 HOGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 509: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 1086 (Depths:2)
08:39:34 <Lantell> 4tharraofdagon (L16 HOGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 509: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 1086 (Depths:2)
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10:55:06 <Henzell> kuniqs (L20 DsAE)  (Vaults:3)
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12:59:50 <Henzell> zarath9 (L13 DDEE) ASSERT(in_diamond_int(r->start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 166 failed. (Lair:7)
13:02:28 <gammafunk> .cobbed
13:02:29 <Sequell> 12. noob123 the Imperceptible (L24 SpEn of Dithmenos), slain by a death cob on Zot:2 on 2015-08-30 13:10:29, with 535479 points after 85699 turns and 9:18:08.
13:02:34 <gammafunk> Lasty: Died with the orb
13:03:33 <Lasty> oh jeez
13:03:33 <Sequell> Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
13:03:44 <Lasty> on an Sp
13:04:05 <Lasty> interesting because the food hit is worse for Sp, but it should be easy to evade
13:04:43 <|amethyst> that wasn't a hunger death
13:05:05 <gammafunk> yeah, just a good, solid melee hit
13:05:14 <Lasty> They are pretty nasty in melee
13:05:19 <gammafunk> that went through like 40 ev
13:05:20 <Lasty> could do 105 damage in 10 aut
13:05:26 <Lasty> tho usually won't
13:05:47 <|amethyst> !lg noob123 spen x=dam,sdam,tdam
13:05:48 <Sequell> 1. [dam=31;sdam=31;tdam=31] noob123 the Imperceptible (L24 SpEn of Dithmenos), slain by a death cob on Zot:2 on 2015-08-30 13:10:29, with 535479 points after 85699 turns and 9:18:08.
13:06:14 <gammafunk> close to a max roll
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13:13:22 <gammafunk> !lg * !boring ktype!=starvation br=temple ikiller= ckaux= map=
13:13:29 <gammafunk> this causes a sequell timeout
13:13:37 <gammafunk> yet apparently there are 106 hits
13:13:49 <gammafunk> !lg * !boring ktype!=starvation br=temple ikiller= ckaux= s=map
13:14:07 <gammafunk> oh, maybe just some temporary problem
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13:14:40 <|amethyst> !lg * !boring ktyp!=starvation br=temple ikiller= ckaux= s=map
13:15:14 <Sequell> Time limit of 60s exceeded
13:15:14 <gammafunk> it ran ok a minute ago
13:15:16 <Sequell> 180 games for * (!boring ktype!=starvation br=temple ikiller= ckaux=): 106x, 11x pf_slimified_temple, 10x pf_slime_end_temple, 5x triangle_lava_temple_11, 5x eino_temple_water_12, 5x minmay_temple_bridge_a_8, 4x oiseaux_autumnal_temple_12, 4x corrupted_temple_6, 3x circular_temple, 3x triangle_temple_variant, 2x triangle_lava_temple_12, water_room_temple_variant, temple_eino_lava_12, minmay_temple...
13:15:18 <Sequell> 180 games for * (!boring ktyp!=starvation br=temple ikiller= ckaux=): 106x, 11x pf_slimified_temple, 10x pf_slime_end_temple, 5x triangle_lava_temple_11, 5x eino_temple_water_12, 5x minmay_temple_bridge_a_8, 4x oiseaux_autumnal_temple_12, 4x corrupted_temple_6, 3x circular_temple, 3x triangle_temple_variant, 2x triangle_lava_temple_12, water_room_temple_variant, temple_eino_lava_12, minmay_temple_...
13:15:38 <gammafunk> !lg * !boring ktype!=starvation br=temple ikiller= ckaux= map=
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13:19:24 <greensnark> !lg * !boring ktype!=starvation br=temple ikiller= ckaux= map=
13:20:19 <Sequell> Time limit of 60s exceeded
13:20:39 <Lasty> gammafunk: trying to DDOS Sequell again
13:20:42 <Lasty> ?
13:21:51 <wheals> quick, alert Sequell's owner!
13:25:46 <Lasty> Should fungus form give rN+++ like tree form?
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13:25:58 <Lasty> wandering mushrooms / plants in general have rN+++
13:27:55 <Lasty> er wait, maybe it already does
13:30:43 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1738-g82cdc46 (34)
13:33:12 <Lasty> yeah, it does
13:35:15 <gammafunk> just tryin' to make the snark's day more interestin'
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13:39:11 <greensnark> Postgres sometimes produces the most baffling query execution plans
13:39:31 <greensnark> I suppose I'm overdue to upgrade Postgres
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14:01:16 <dpeg> Hi there
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14:18:00 <greensnark> Hey dpeg
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14:28:39 <wheals> greensnark: since healers got removed, maybe 'he' on its own should be assumed to mean high elf
14:28:43 <wheals> in Sequell
14:31:48 <dpeg> greensnark: hiya, thanks for help!
14:33:03 <wheals> damn
14:33:14 <wheals> robin has a artefact helmet... when i'm playing an octopode
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14:34:25 <dpeg> wheals: impale him!
14:34:37 <wheals> she's a female goblin :)
14:35:15 <dpeg> ok, ok, is quartering acceptable by gender theory?
14:35:36 <wheals> i think decapitation would be apropos here
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14:37:33 <kvaak> dehatitation
14:37:42 <wheals> if only it were a hat :(
14:39:03 <dpeg> wheals: pray for Gastronok
14:39:12 <greensnark> !lg * he
14:39:12 <Sequell> 219397. dma3 the Magician (L5 HEWz), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:3 on 2015-08-30 18:38:04, with 199 points after 2301 turns and 0:12:24.
14:39:25 <greensnark> !lg * cls=healer
14:39:26 <Sequell> 32143. fluffatog the Practitioner (L1 DDHe of Elyvilon), slain by a gnoll (a +0 spear) on D:1 on 2015-08-30 01:34:19, with 0 points after 22 turns and 0:00:52.
14:40:18 <dpeg> if I play a helmet-handicapped species like octopode and Gastronok arrives with a randart hat, I take a deep breath and follow the maxime: Hat Or Death!!!
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14:40:58 <wheals> greensnark: cool
14:41:19 <wheals> i wonder if gastronok can get non-pondering unrands?
14:41:29 <wheals> gastronok with the crown of dyrovepreva :)
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14:49:27 <|amethyst> I read that as "greensnark with the crown of dyrovepreva"
14:49:50 <greensnark> As a matter of fact, I have the crown of Dyrovepreva IRL
14:49:55 <greensnark> Don't anyone else go looking for it
14:49:57 <|amethyst> crown of dyrovepeg
14:50:03 <gammafunk> does yours still have +Hunger?
14:50:20 <greensnark> I certainly eat enough to compensate for it
14:50:27 <greensnark> (I'm hoping it does)
14:52:52 <|amethyst> f - the +420 shield of the bong {rSmoke Blurry +Hunger}
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15:01:19 <greensnark> As featured in Cabin in the Woods
15:01:37 <greensnark> That was a pretty deadly bong
15:02:09 <wheals> the helmet to turned to be  n - the +2 helmet of Heh Gefo {*Drain Dex+8 Stlth+, unknown}
15:02:19 <wheals> thanks olasty
15:02:28 <greensnark> s/e/t
15:04:01 <|amethyst> /g
15:04:10 <greensnark> word
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16:45:47 <aarujn> Hi!  Playing a cat ... why is it asking me "Really attack barehanded?"
16:46:05 <aarujn> What changed in the latest (trunk) update?
16:46:56 <amalloy> aarujn: the barehanded warning has been there for at least a couple months, but it's supposed to be reasonably smart about asking
16:46:59 <kvaak> cats have hands now? :o
16:47:12 <aarujn> hm
16:47:39 <aarujn> I play a fair bit of Fe--  . . .
16:48:21 <geekosaur> sounds like a bug to me considering cats can't wield...
16:48:21 <aarujn> aarujn: !won . feee
16:48:21 <aarujn> [1:46pm] Sequell: aarujn (feee) has won 10 times in 12 games (83.33%): 10xFeEE
16:48:21 <aarujn> but . . .
16:48:21 <aarujn> . . . this is the first time I've seen this?
16:48:32 <amalloy> aarujn: it looks like it warns you if you have 0 UC and are carrying a melee weapon
16:48:32 <aarujn> Dunno!
16:48:45 <aarujn> not carrying any weapons . . .
16:48:57 <aarujn> It literally says: "Really attack barehanded?"
16:49:06 <amalloy> i understand that's what it says
16:49:20 <amalloy> !function wielded_weapon_check
16:49:20 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/fight.cc#l524
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16:49:31 <aarujn> cool
16:49:36 <wheals> &watch aarujn
16:49:36 <aarujn> lemee look
16:49:36 <Buzzell> No current CBZZ game for aarujn.
16:49:37 <Sequell> !watch Aarujn
16:49:37 <Henzell> Watch Aarujn at: http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-Aarujn
16:49:43 <wheals> dangit Buzzell
16:49:59 <aarujn> huh ok
16:50:23 <amalloy> probably a case for Fe should be added
16:50:24 <wheals> inventory?
16:50:34 <wheals> oh
16:50:40 <wheals> i guess that might cause it
16:50:51 <amalloy> wheals: it shouldn't, though. are stones melee weapons?
16:50:53 <wheals> it might get reset somehow when unwielding something?
16:50:56 <wheals> not sure
16:51:04 <kvaak> why are you carrying stones
16:51:11 <amalloy> kvaak: EE
16:51:35 <kvaak> oh right, you can still have stuff in your mouth
16:51:38 <amalloy> aarujn: i understand that all other weapons are grey. are you carrying any of them anyway?
16:51:57 <aarujn> maybe it should check for USABLE weapons you are carrying?
16:52:00 <amalloy> like please open your inventory so i can confirm that you don't have any
16:52:08 <aarujn> (instead of just "weapons you are carrying")
16:52:22 <aarujn> I have a whip, but I cannot use it as cat
16:52:36 <amalloy> right. so that's why
16:52:41 <aarujn> Also I have arrows
16:52:43 <amalloy> you claimed "not carrying any weapons"
16:52:57 <aarujn> (for eventual sticks-to-snakes-ing)
16:53:05 <aarujn> But I cannot use those either as cat
16:53:09 <kvaak> what does a felid do with a whip
16:53:21 <amalloy> kvaak: role-playing
16:53:23 <aarujn> closest I could think of to ball of string.
16:53:28 <aarujn> :)
16:53:35 <aarujn> you Chase it! ;)
16:53:56 <aarujn> Also: no laser pointers in the game
16:54:04 <aarujn> so . . .
16:54:19 <aarujn> Anyway: "aarujn: maybe it should check for USABLE weapons you are carrying?"
16:54:29 <aarujn> (re: the barehands thing)
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16:57:04 <aarujn> (or just exempt cats and trolls?)
16:57:14 <aarujn> (and I guess ghouls?)
16:59:57 <wheals> if a ghoul or a troll wants to use weapons instead of uc, it's good to have it
17:00:11 <wheals> i just didn't expect a felid to carry around a weapon
17:00:25 <wheals> or, in general, people to carry around unusable weapons
17:00:31 <wheals> a corner case i missed
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17:03:31 <aarujn> [nods] makes sense . . .
17:03:35 <aarujn> . . .   players just do strange and unexpected things
17:03:39 <aarujn> (!)
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17:09:14 <ProzacElf> i suppose a felid might have a legit reason to carry a weapon if a trove needs it
17:09:24 <ProzacElf> but otherwise i can't see why you would really expect that
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17:11:28 <geekosaur> I thoiught troves didn't ask for weapons from felids
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17:13:13 <amalloy> they don't
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17:15:59 <kvaak> troves don't ask for stuff that's useless to you
17:16:04 <kvaak> theoretically anyway
17:16:27 <kvaak> if you find a +3 gda on the ground on a decj you can use it but you probably don't want to
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17:20:17 <aarujn> I imagine folks haul out "Trophy Weapons" (e.g. Sword of Cerebov) from time to time, just to ascend with them
17:20:37 <aarujn> . . . but again that's totally an edge case
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17:21:01 <geekosaur> yeh, that's what I thought. (which caused me to wonder if they still ask for the horn of geryon... but I suppose making you detour though the vestibule is enough of a thing)
17:21:32 <kvaak> they do ask for it
17:21:39 <kvaak> and now the trove actually eats the horn
17:21:52 <kvaak> since it's no longer required to enter tardisgehcoc
17:25:34 <amalloy> aarujn: carrying around a trophy weapon isn't really relevant to this warning
17:25:58 <amalloy> unless you are a felid with 0 UC who has killed cerebov and also never attacked anything barehanded all game
17:26:12 <aarujn> Is that . . . a challenge? :)
17:26:38 <amalloy> well, feel free to challenge yourself
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17:31:38 <ProzacElf> that's one hell of a challenge
17:32:29 <kvaak> not really
17:32:36 <kvaak> it sounds like a fairly standard spammy felid
17:32:45 <kvaak> !log . fefe
17:32:46 <Sequell> 1. perunasaurus, XL26 FeFE, T:107230: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/perunasaurus/morgue-perunasaurus-20140708-123331.txt
17:33:09 <kvaak> I guess I did melee some trivial stuff
17:35:28 <amalloy> right. it's not a challenge you'll do accidentally, but it's easy to do on purpose
17:35:39 <amalloy> just carry around a whip and never train UC
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17:40:04 <Xenobreeder> ??stream of webbing
17:40:04 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled stream_of_webbing in my learndb.
17:40:10 <Cheibriados> Arachne (11H) | Spd: 15 | HD: 17 | HP: 200 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, web sense | Res: 06magic(68) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 3551 | Sp: ensnare, poison arrow (3d24), blink, b.venom (3d21) | Sz: Large | Int: high.

17:40:10 <Xenobreeder> %0.14?arachne
17:40:17 <Xenobreeder> ??ensnare
17:40:18 <Sequell> ensnare[1/1]: Attack flavour (jumping spiders) or missile spell (Arachne) which puts you in a web and places a web on the floor if possible.
17:40:56 <Xenobreeder> !learn add stream_of_webbing see {ensnare}
17:40:57 <Sequell> stream of webbing[1/1]: see {ensnare}
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18:09:47 <Lantell> Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1738-g82cdc46 (34)
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18:26:04 <Cheibriados> Shadow mimic does not target ranged attacks properly 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9929 by Sprucery
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18:27:52 <gammafunk> !lm lasty
18:27:53 <Sequell> 11544. [2015-08-30 22:21:16] Lasty the Cruncher (L14 DrFE of Ru) reached level 8 of the Lair of Beasts on turn 25673. (Lair:8)
18:27:57 <gammafunk> Typical god choice!
18:28:19 <geekosaur> ru-thless
18:28:37 <gammafunk> !lg devteamnp god=ru s=name
18:28:38 <Sequell> 105 games for devteamnp (god=ru): 33x neil, 22x Lasty, 12x wheals, 9x MarvinPA, 6x gammafunk, 6x dpeg, 3x Medar, 3x SGrunt, 3x reaver, 2x PleasingFungus, 2x elliptic, 2x bh, Keskitalo, ontoclasm
18:28:41 <gammafunk> haha
18:29:04 <gammafunk> although I wonder
18:29:17 <gammafunk> !lg devteamnp god=ru !wizmode s=name
18:29:18 <Sequell> 105 games for devteamnp (god=ru !wizmode): 33x neil, 22x Lasty, 12x wheals, 9x MarvinPA, 6x gammafunk, 6x dpeg, 3x Medar, 3x SGrunt, 3x reaver, 2x PleasingFungus, 2x elliptic, 2x bh, Keskitalo, ontoclasm
18:29:35 <wheals> it would probably be simple to make shadow ranged aimed_at_spot
18:30:07 <gammafunk> you mean even if the original attack wasn't?
18:30:07 <wheals> alternatively, why does an arrow missing an enemy and hitting an ally make that ally hostile
18:31:42 <gammafunk> I suppose you could try some cute trick of getting a high ev harmless monsters next to an ally you wanted to kill
18:32:02 <gammafunk> and then shoot the monster until your ally dies
18:34:13 <Lasty> gammafunk: I find myself not choosing Ru as often as I'd like -- often another god's altar comes up first, or there's Dith, who I also love.
18:34:37 <gammafunk> !lg Lasty s=god
18:34:37 <Sequell> 443 games for Lasty: 148x, 31x Trog, 28x Xom, 25x Dithmenos, 22x Ru, 22x Kikubaaqudgha, 19x Makhleb, 19x Okawaru, 15x Elyvilon, 14x Sif Muna, 13x Fedhas, 12x Zin, 11x Lugonu, 11x Qazlal, 10x Nemelex Xobeh, 8x Ashenzari, 8x Vehumet, 7x Gozag, 6x Cheibriados, 5x Yredelemnul, 4x Jiyva, 2x The Shining One, Wulndraste, Beogh, Pakellas
18:34:55 <wheals> honestly, why does shooting allies outright make them hostile besides flavour?
18:34:59 <gammafunk> Just so we realize that Trog is the best god
18:35:18 <Lasty> :p
18:35:33 <gammafunk> well there are definitely gameplay considerations for allies becoming hostile
18:35:34 <wheals> i guess it's exploitable with sgd or tentacle
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18:35:58 <gammafunk> firestorming your dragons when they were part of your meatshield was a big thing
18:36:33 <wheals> just feels like it ends up a big interface pain, especially when the game tries to guess your intentions
18:37:00 <wheals> but i see the point about making summoning a bit less crazy than it could be
18:37:20 <gammafunk> yeah, most allies are summons of some kind
18:37:57 <gammafunk> you haven't lived until you've pissed of your lightning spire
18:38:18 <gammafunk> it's not rushing at you or anything...but trust me it's *very* angry
18:38:28 <gammafunk> *pissed off
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18:43:47 <dpeg> wheals: you want players to be able to shoot through allies?
18:44:15 <dpeg> you probably mean accidental attacks
18:45:01 <wheals> well, i was partly complaining about the issues with distinguishing accidental and intentional attacks
18:45:10 <wheals> players will surely find a way to game any system
18:46:44 <wheals> to be honest, i'm not sure what i want
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19:08:01 <gammafunk> ug, every time I whine about perl I'm forced to write some awk a bit later
19:08:28 <gammafunk> and then I learn about things like it handling '&' in replacement text after wondering what the hell was going on
19:13:35 <amalloy> doesn't perl do that too?
19:13:53 <|amethyst> amalloy:  in Perl it's $&
19:14:36 <gammafunk> I'm going to post this shell script; hopefully it will make |amethyst's eyes hurt for making me read so much perl
19:15:07 <|amethyst> (and using $& anywhere in your program slowed down all regexes prior to 5.20, because it had to preserve the contents of the match)
19:15:18 <gammafunk> http://sprunge.us/CgWb
19:15:48 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  who taught you shell?
19:15:54 <gammafunk> *sobs*
19:16:08 <|amethyst> it's not too bad actually
19:16:14 <gammafunk> welcome a recommendation on that text replacement
19:16:21 <gammafunk> since that silliness with & is too much
19:16:26 <|amethyst> just quote your "${LUA_FILES[@]}"
19:16:33 <gammafunk> the offending string was "Maces & Flails"
19:16:44 <gammafunk> oh, huh
19:16:48 <gammafunk> yeah maybe that's my problem
19:17:16 <gammafunk> er, no I guess that's actually not related
19:17:27 <|amethyst> no, it's not related
19:18:29 <gammafunk> my sed is not fixing this bad sub though
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19:19:08 <gammafunk> gah, need two \
19:19:42 <|amethyst> this is supposed to be replacing "--LUA INCLUDE--" with the contents of all the ${LUA_FILES[@]} concatenated?
19:19:56 <gammafunk> yes
19:20:33 <gammafunk> without writing a python script (even though I'd at least not mess that up and would be done by now)
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19:22:11 <|amethyst> myrc=$(cat gammafunk.rc); printf "%s\n" "${rc/--LUA INCLUDE--/$LUA_TEXT}" > "$OUT_FILE"
19:22:18 <gammafunk> yeah it works with LUA_TEXT=`cat "${LUA_FILES[@]}" | sed -e 's/&/\\\\\\\\&/'`
19:22:19 <|amethyst> oh
19:22:22 <|amethyst> don't use ``
19:22:29 <|amethyst> that doubles the number of \ you need inside it
19:22:36 <gammafunk> yeah, ok, thanks
19:22:39 <|amethyst> prefer $() almost always
19:22:49 <gammafunk> right, that's probably caused a lot of problems in my scripts
19:23:10 <|amethyst> change  rc/-- to rc//--  if you want to be able to substitute multiple occurrences
19:23:29 <gammafunk> ah, the bash variable string stuff
19:23:56 <|amethyst> this assumes you can fit your whole rc in a single shell variable... and you probably want to make sure the variable isn't exported since that would put a tighter limit
19:24:19 <|amethyst> oh, I wrote "myrc" once and "rc" once; those should be the same of course
19:24:26 <gammafunk> right
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19:32:48 <|amethyst> oh, hey
19:32:52 <|amethyst> found another bug fixing that one
19:36:05 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1739-g7adb240: Make shadow throw respect aim-at-spot (#9929) 10(35 minutes ago, 3 files, 8+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7adb24044dee
19:36:05 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1740-ge10e0be: Fix shadow throw towards far northwest. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e10e0bef4408
19:37:02 <gammafunk> good cherry-picks for 0.16
19:37:16 <gammafunk> I'd thought the respect aim at spot was fixed already
19:37:23 <|amethyst> it was for spells
19:37:24 <gammafunk> for shadow throw
19:37:27 <gammafunk> ah ok
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19:57:19 <amalloy> i think doing it for spells was my first patch. throwing was too hard
20:01:33 <Bodrick> i've been doing some work on LOS blending this evening - if this is something i got finished up properly, would it be likely to go in?
20:01:42 <Bodrick> a couple of examples:
20:01:52 <Bodrick> http://i.imgur.com/aQazC7q.png -> http://i.imgur.com/0WxQSeP.png
20:02:10 <Bodrick> http://i.imgur.com/zi6sWGm.png -> http://i.imgur.com/e65p1Kt.png
20:05:35 <amalloy> you almost make me want to play tiles
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20:11:41 <Bodrick> hah
20:11:55 <Bodrick> no effect on console, i'm afraid!
20:14:38 <wheals> that's just because we arbitrarily limit our colour pallete ;)
20:15:22 <wheals> Bodrick: you might want to ask ontoclasm or roctavian, they're our art guys
20:15:41 <|amethyst> I think it looks nice
20:16:00 <|amethyst> would be kind of nice if the gradiant part were centred along the tile boundary
20:16:01 <gammafunk> it's neat, my only concern is that it doesn't become hard to judge what tile ends where
20:16:02 <wheals> i haven't seen roctavian in a while, but ontoclasm showed up a couple of days ago and did some stuff
20:16:16 <|amethyst> but I guess that's probably twice as much work?
20:16:30 <|amethyst> (for the reason gammafunk mentioned---avoiding degridding)
20:17:02 <gammafunk> oh, also, this would need a webtile implementation probably
20:17:49 <Bodrick> wheals: thanks, i'll have a chat with him next time i see him around
20:18:18 <wheals> clearly we need to reimplement webtiles in terms of webgl
20:18:21 <wheals> and websdl2
20:18:24 <Bodrick> |amethyst: i can move the gradient closer to the boundary easily enough - at the moment it stretches half way across the tile
20:19:17 <|amethyst> Bodrick:  I was also thinking of it extending into the dark tile
20:19:18 <Bodrick> |amethyst: it probably wouldn't be too much work to make it go on the other tile as well though
20:19:21 <gammafunk> wheals: https://github.com/nanki/WebSDL
20:19:44 <wheals> gammafunk: whyyyy
20:19:46 <Bodrick> i'd have to add the same amount of overlays again though probably :)
20:21:07 <Bodrick> gammafunk: i imagine it should work in webtiles already - i just add another overlay to each tile in LOS in tilecell.cc
20:21:25 <Bodrick> the same way the kraken ink gets applied
20:21:42 <gammafunk> perhaps so, yeah
20:21:55 <Bodrick> i'd need to set up webtiles on my machine to check though
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20:22:17 <gammafunk> I guess the webtiles js can take the tile idx and do the overlay already
20:22:22 <wheals> you don't really need to "set it up" make WEBTILES=y does everything you need if you're just using it on localhost
20:22:38 <wheals> it's quite simple, thankfully
20:22:40 <Bodrick> ah ok, thanks
20:22:44 <wheals> even a web luddite like me can do it
20:22:45 <gammafunk> well he might need to set up python
20:22:45 <Bodrick> i haven't looked into it at all
20:22:51 <gammafunk> doesn't work on windows
20:22:55 <Bodrick> oh
20:23:00 <Bodrick> welp!
20:23:00 <wheals> oh yeah
20:23:03 <wheals> oops
20:23:14 <wheals> !send Bodrick linux vms
20:23:14 <Sequell> Sending linux vms to Bodrick.
20:23:15 <gammafunk> wait, how did you do it then, wheals?
20:23:19 <|amethyst> you'd need to add something to cell_renderer.js
20:23:51 <|amethyst> that's the js equivalent of tilecell.cc
20:24:24 <|amethyst> hm
20:24:25 <gammafunk> yeah it's probably not a difficult change...but I'm not sure how the gradient is created
20:24:53 <|amethyst> I guess not "equivalent" since tilecell.cc is also used, but it's what actually does the compositing
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20:26:32 <Bodrick> http://pastebin.com/F3qQFYTi
20:26:36 <Bodrick> this is what i've got at the moment
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20:29:46 <Bodrick> anyway, it's well past my bedtime - thanks for the feedback
20:30:00 <gammafunk> Bodrick: you can add the images to the commit as well
20:30:30 <gammafunk> I guess that's not useful for pastebin though
20:35:06 <gammafunk> I'm not good at this, but I think you'd want to just use 4 images each for edges and corners
20:35:21 <gammafunk> I assume these are combinatorial images, since there's 16 each
20:36:31 <Bodrick> http://archive.gamedev.net/archive/reference/articles/article934.html
20:37:03 <Bodrick> i basically used that - it uses the same layout as figure 3
20:37:36 <gammafunk> cool, I should read that; probably it's more obvious why this is the best way
20:37:43 <gammafunk> *will be more obvious
20:38:02 <gammafunk> also this feels like it might intersect with bh's domino code
20:38:27 <gammafunk> (currently only used to make the floors in crypt)
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20:49:59 <gammafunk> @??sonja
20:49:59 <Gretell> Sonja (05K) | Spd: 14 | HD: 6 | HP: 30 | AC/EV: 2/24 | Dam: 9, 5, 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 807 | Sp: blink, teleport self [04emergency] | Sz: small | Int: human.
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21:43:55 <Cheibriados> dumb enemies can shout 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9930 by rchandra
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21:53:09 <|amethyst> retitle that to "'dumb' is dumb"
21:53:43 <|amethyst> AFAICT it essentially means "paralysis that ignores stasis"
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22:41:53 <Cheibriados> 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.17-a0-1741-gd5e8965: Various Invocation tiles 10(24 seconds ago, 10 files, 15+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5e8965d1072
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22:49:52 <gammafunk> !tell ontoclasm Awesome ability tiles, thanks!
22:49:53 <Sequell> gammafunk: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know.
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23:13:53 <|amethyst> gammafunk: in- vs out-of-LOS changes too frequently for domino to be of much use (you wouldn't want change of LOS to affect tiles halfway across the level; and it's too slow anyway)
23:14:10 <|amethyst> gammafunk: Bodrick's thing seems similar in principle to how shores are done
23:14:22 <|amethyst> or wall shadows
23:14:22 <gammafunk> I see
23:15:12 <gammafunk> well hopefully writing the js side won't be difficult
23:15:20 <gammafunk> I can probably help with that if he doesn't want to
23:15:48 <gammafunk> still not sure if the degridding part can be sufficiently avoided
23:16:08 <gammafunk> it's also a bit of a problem with shoals shores, but I seem to recall that those aren't too bad
23:16:17 <gammafunk> yet this would affect every los the player sees more or less
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