00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:40 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1691-g18a3847 (34) 00:02:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:05:07 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:11:55 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:14:41 |amethyst: what about r.start being (0,0)? is that relative to the minotaur, or is that in the context of the level, where origin is out of bounds? 00:15:45 <|amethyst> oh 00:16:11 <|amethyst> !crashlog * verb~~_valid -2 00:16:12 No milestones for * (verb~~_valid crash). 00:16:18 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid -2 00:16:19 342/343. Xenophilius, XL27 GrFi, T:104584 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Xenophilius/crash-Xenophilius-20150814-062443.txt 00:16:32 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid.*ray -2 00:16:32 156/157. Dynast, XL13 SpAM, T:13794 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Dynast/crash-Dynast-20150812-174101.txt 00:18:24 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid.*ray -3 00:18:26 155/157. anon, XL11 MuVM, T:18257 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/anon/crash-anon-20150805-153702.txt 00:18:36 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid.*ray -4 00:18:37 154/157. anon, XL10 DgEn, T:16790 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/anon/crash-anon-20150802-061218.txt 00:18:39 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid.*ray -5 00:18:40 153/157. silentsnack, XL9 OpWz, T:6727 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/silentsnack/crash-silentsnack-20150801-222100.txt 00:18:59 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid.*ray -6 00:19:01 152/157. wearedevo, XL18 SpCK, T:52232 (milestone): https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/wearedevo/crash-wearedevo-20150726-105215.txt 00:19:16 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~_valid.*ray -7 00:19:17 151/157. ProzacElf, XL11 VpNe, T:17190 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ProzacElf/crash-ProzacElf-20150724-044625.txt 00:22:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:24:06 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:26:58 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:04 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:00 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:17 -!- elliptic is now known as hyperbolic 00:31:30 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 00:33:24 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:04 .cobbed 00:38:05 3. magipi the Sensei (L23 MiMo of Jiyva), starved to death on Zot:5 on 2015-08-20 00:31:49, with 496521 points after 71332 turns and 7:13:43. 00:38:09 another victim 00:38:19 I mean, starving with Jiyva? 00:38:33 .cobbed -tv:channel=cobbed 00:38:34 3. magipi, XL23 MiMo, T:71332 requested for cobbed: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:39:27 haha, got parad 00:39:48 !log magipi mimo 00:39:48 3. magipi, XL23 MiMo, T:71332: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/magipi/morgue-magipi-20150820-003149.txt 00:40:11 The death cob shouts, "What's happening?!" 00:40:11 The death cob hits you! 00:40:12 You have starved to death. 00:40:37 Lasty_: Hope you see .cobbed 3 00:42:00 wonder if the satiation reduction should be nerfed a bit, not that I mind looking at deaths in Zot 00:48:25 <|amethyst> !calc (log(6900.0))/0.60206 00:48:26 6.31 00:48:37 <|amethyst> six hits to go from satiated to 1 hunger 00:48:43 <|amethyst> err 00:48:46 <|amethyst> no, that's wrong 00:49:17 <|amethyst> !calc (log(6900.0))/0.124938 00:49:17 30.42 00:50:40 30 hits doesn't seem right.. 00:50:48 <|amethyst> !calc 6900 * 0.75**30 00:50:49 1.23 00:50:51 <|amethyst> well 00:51:12 <|amethyst> that's not counting the per-turn hunger loss 00:51:13 oh you said 1 hunger 00:51:32 yeah 30 isn't a problem 00:51:42 this player got to something like very hungry while fighting 00:51:52 then proceeded to simply run, letting it him him the entire timme 00:51:59 then passed out from starvation 00:52:12 <|amethyst> ah, 400 is fainting 00:52:13 s/him him/hit him/ 00:52:26 <|amethyst> !calc log(6900/400) 00:52:26 1.2 00:53:13 !calc log(10.0) 00:53:14 1 00:53:22 !calc log(6900.0)/log(0.75) 00:53:23 ERROR: cannot take logarithm of zero 00:53:32 !calc (log(6900.0))/(log(0.75)) 00:53:33 ERROR: cannot take logarithm of zero 00:53:35 ???? 00:53:37 <|amethyst> yeah, it's wonkey 00:53:40 <|amethyst> s/key/ky/ 00:53:50 !calc log(0.75) 00:53:50 ERROR: cannot take logarithm of zero 00:53:52 <|amethyst> !calc 6900 * 0.75**10 00:53:53 388.56 00:53:53 !calc (log(6900.0))/(log(4.0/3)) 00:53:54 0.38 00:54:01 uh. 00:54:04 !calc (log(6900.0))/(log(4.0/3.0)) 00:54:05 0.38 00:54:24 <|amethyst> I have no idea what's happening there, but I had a similar problem 00:54:32 <|amethyst> !calc log(4.0/3.0) 00:54:33 0.1 00:54:41 <|amethyst> !calc log(6900.0) 00:54:42 3.8 00:54:47 <|amethyst> !calc log(6900.0)/log(4.0/3.0) 00:54:48 0.38 00:54:56 <|amethyst> !calc log(6900.0)*log(4.0/3.0) 00:54:57 0.38 00:55:03 nice 00:55:10 <|amethyst> !calc log(6900.0)+log(4.0/3.0) 00:55:11 3.9 00:55:21 <|amethyst> !calc log(6900.0)-log(4.0/3.0) 00:55:22 3.7 00:55:28 <|amethyst> I guess it's only division 00:55:33 !calc 4/4 00:55:34 1 00:55:38 !calc 4/0.1 00:55:39 40 00:55:43 <|amethyst> !calc log(6900.0)/0.1 00:55:44 38 00:55:58 <|amethyst> !calc 3.8/log(4.0/3.0) 00:55:59 0.38 00:56:06 <|amethyst> !calc 3.8/log(1.33) 00:56:07 ERROR: division by zero 00:56:09 !calc log(6900.0)/log(4.0) 00:56:10 0.06 00:56:29 <|amethyst> !calc 4.0/3.0 00:56:30 1.33 00:56:31 <|amethyst> !calc 1.33 00:56:32 1.33 00:56:34 <|amethyst> !calc log(1.33) 00:56:35 0 00:56:38 <|amethyst> !calc log(4.0/3.0) 00:56:38 0.1 00:56:54 I guess it does log 4 - log 3? 00:57:01 <|amethyst> !calc log(4) 00:57:02 0.6 00:57:02 !calc log(4)-log(3) 00:57:02 <|amethyst> !calc log(3) 00:57:03 0.2 00:57:03 0.4 00:57:35 also it didn't calculate log(6900)/log(4) properly 00:57:44 <|amethyst> yeah 00:58:04 !calc log(10)/log(10) 00:58:05 0.01 00:58:08 nice 00:58:25 <|amethyst> !cmd !calc 00:58:25 Command: !calc => !lg xyz x=$$*$ fmt:"${x[0]}" 00:58:38 <|amethyst> oh 00:58:59 <|amethyst> !calc (log(10)/log(10)) 00:58:59 0.01 00:59:11 <|amethyst> !calc (log(10)*1/log(10)) 00:59:12 0.01 00:59:21 <|amethyst> !calc log(10)*(1/log(10)) 00:59:22 0.01 00:59:28 <|amethyst> !calc 1/log(10) 00:59:29 0.01 00:59:38 <|amethyst> !calc 100/log(10) 00:59:39 1 00:59:43 !calc 1.0/log(10) 00:59:44 0.01 00:59:47 !calc 1.0/log(10.0) 00:59:48 0.01 00:59:54 <|amethyst> I bet it's giving a percentage 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:03 <|amethyst> !calc 1.0/4.0 01:00:04 0.25 01:00:11 <|amethyst> but that one's right... 01:00:21 !calc 1/log(100) 01:00:21 0.01 01:00:22 <|amethyst> !calc 1.0/(2.0 + 2.0) 01:00:22 0.25 01:00:34 !calc log(100) 01:00:35 2 01:00:47 <|amethyst> !calc 1.0/4.0 01:00:47 0.25 01:00:53 <|amethyst> hm 01:00:56 !calc 1/log(100000) 01:00:57 0 01:01:04 !calc 1/log(1000) 01:01:05 0 01:01:06 <|amethyst> !calc 1/log(2) 01:01:07 0.03 01:01:14 <|amethyst> !calc log(2) 01:01:15 0.3 01:01:17 <|amethyst> !calc log(2)**-1 01:01:17 30 01:01:28 !calc 1/log(5) 01:01:28 0.02 01:02:10 <|amethyst> !calc 0.3**-1 01:02:10 3.33 01:02:38 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1691-g18a3847 (34) 01:03:46 -!- paulr_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:04:35 is there something in lua that can get the character in the abbreviated form, e.g. DESu? 01:06:48 <|amethyst> gammafunk: clua or dlua? 01:06:58 clua 01:07:34 I can just concatenate the race and class, so it's no big deal, but I didn't see it in l_you 01:07:42 just wanted to double-check 01:08:36 <|amethyst> hm, does seem to be missing afaict 01:09:05 <|amethyst> you could exploit your privilege and add it :) 01:10:44 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:11:36 maybe I'll do that in a bit 01:15:48 -!- collokey has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:16:55 -!- Prozacelf has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 01:17:31 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:27:46 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:29:24 -!- Vizer__ has quit [Quit: bye] 01:30:49 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:31:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:37 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:33:07 -!- melenkuri has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:55 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:46:58 -!- paulr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:47:18 -!- yottam has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:53:47 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:56:06 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:56:58 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:57:14 -!- bel has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:15:49 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16:15 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:28:06 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:31:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:35:55 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:36:54 -!- FourHTwoA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:35 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:44:14 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:53 my G menu is putting line breaks in weird places, did something get changed there recently? 02:46:45 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:50:37 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:55:37 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:58:24 <|amethyst> ohh 02:58:30 <|amethyst> I missed something 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:15 New branch created: pull/101 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/101 03:00:15 034Hooves2Appendages02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/101 * 0.17-a0-1692-g175b294: Quote for reaper 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/175b29476470 03:01:15 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:06:06 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:07:49 also, is Roxanne not dropping a book intentional? 03:10:15 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:11:16 <|amethyst> hm 03:11:18 <|amethyst> Unlinked temporary item: 03:11:18 <|amethyst> hardcover book 03:11:18 <|amethyst> item #15: base: 8; sub: 28; plus: 0; plus2: 0; special: 0 03:11:18 <|amethyst> quant: 1; ident: 0x00000000; ident_type: 0 03:11:20 <|amethyst> x: 0; y: 0; link: 27000 03:13:11 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1691-g18a3847 (34) 03:14:04 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:17:08 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:18:33 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:23 I thought roxanne only a had a chance to drop a book. 03:21:07 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21:18 somehow I just know that would be from blue oyster cult 03:21:21 -!- speranza_ is now known as speranza 03:21:32 s/know/knew/ 03:22:02 <|amethyst> looking at the code, roxanne is supposed to always get a book 03:22:04 You are obviously very attuned to popular tastes. 03:22:21 did you give reapers a cowbell in that commit 03:22:51 Instead of scythes they now wield elec guitars 03:22:57 034Hooves2Appendages02 07* 0.17-a0-1692-g175b294: Quote for reaper 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/175b29476470 03:22:57 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1693-g9345c46: Merge pull request #101 from 4Hooves2Appendages/master 10(6 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9345c4658842 03:23:17 <|amethyst> formatting... 03:23:52 I'm starting to wonder what kind of quote I'd have to put in that you wouldn't merge... 03:25:14 need me to mantis either of those? (Roxanne and G) 03:25:25 <|amethyst> I've got the G 03:25:39 <|amethyst> Roxanne is already there 03:25:43 <|amethyst> !bug 9893 03:25:44 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9893 03:26:06 ah, thanks 03:26:31 FR: Sojobo should always drop a Fan of Gales 03:27:03 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27:29 huh 03:27:35 i thought that was intentional 03:28:37 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:29:08 'Roxanne shatters into pieces, and so does her spellbook.' 03:29:40 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:30:44 -!- Lebbon has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:31:17 <|amethyst> This "unlinked temporary item" I'm seeing in diagnostics mode when I place Roxanne definitely not intentional 03:31:27 <|amethyst> doesn't happen every time though 03:35:12 <|amethyst> hmm 03:35:29 <|amethyst> possibly whenever it's a randbook it's fine 03:36:17 FourHTwoA: don't ruin your merge acceptance streak by making bad ones! 03:37:44 gammafunk: Now I will be paranoid about 'losing' any of my commits! 03:38:01 <|amethyst> err 03:38:01 <|amethyst> oh 03:39:10 <|amethyst> %git 9cb03a74 03:39:10 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-1205-g9cb03a7: Make monsters indiscriminate about potions/scrolls 10(3 months ago, 3 files, 22+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9cb03a7455dc 03:40:28 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:46 -!- FourHTwoA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:45:15 -!- aarujn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:46:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1694-gdae492a: Fix alignment of G/&~ (rchandra) 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dae492a68c29 03:46:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1695-g8915c25: Improve formatting of reaper quote. 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8915c25fa38f 03:46:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1696-g418ad98: Don't forget Roxanne's book half the time (#9893) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/418ad983aaf9 03:48:44 -!- raikaria has quit [Client Quit] 03:49:17 whoo. thanks |amethyst 03:52:38 <|amethyst> oh, I think I know what is causing 9708 too 03:52:45 oh, all those unlinked item bugs? 03:52:46 <|amethyst> it should be much rarer now 03:52:53 <|amethyst> not all of them, but that one in particular 03:52:56 or buggy item 03:53:17 <|amethyst> notice that the message came up before it actually prints the item name 03:53:23 <|amethyst> it's because of a level excursion 03:54:53 <|amethyst> to fix up shopping lists 03:55:05 <|amethyst> I guess not much rarer now 03:55:49 <|amethyst> this probably wasn't the gozag remove_dead_shops thing, just the normal update of shop prices 03:56:51 |amethyst: hrm, for monster quotes we're supposed to use some kind of fancy doublequotes? 03:57:11 <|amethyst> gammafunk: most of the quotes use smart quotes, yeah 03:57:27 <|amethyst> I prefer not to use them for plain apostrophes, but we're inconsistent about that 03:59:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:00 funny how they render not very well in chrome but better in whatever emacs is using 04:00:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1697-g579f814: Improve formatting of another quote. 10(47 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/579f814df597 04:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:12 well that's just a font thing, I guess 04:00:23 <|amethyst> yeah 04:01:08 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:02:43 !tell FourHTwoA If you make any more quotes, see the changes |amethyst made in 8915c25 and 579f814; using smart quotes instead of the usual vertical " and ' 04:02:43 gammafunk: OK, I'll let fourhtwoa know. 04:03:46 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:04:21 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 04:06:40 <|amethyst> in 9708 and probable #9443 the problem is that the calls to god_id_item() and maybe_identify_base_type() happen too early in move_item_to_grid 04:06:54 <|amethyst> not sure about the implications of moving them later, though 04:07:07 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:08:34 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:10:05 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:06 The build was broken. (master - 9345c46 #3069 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/76414174 04:10:06 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 04:10:49 <|amethyst> hm 04:11:04 <|amethyst> I guess you need the [skip ci] or [ci skip] on the merge commit, too 04:11:22 -!- ythm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:11:28 <|amethyst> Which I guess makes sense, since there might be conflict resolution or something 04:21:07 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:22:19 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:31:10 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1698-ga4b5924: Link items before taking an excursion (#9443, #9708) 10(72 seconds ago, 1 file, 13+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a4b5924630d9 04:34:36 <|amethyst> #7983 and #8187 are something else: both related to an item held by a dead monster; and the item stays unlinked, so the error repeats every time the level is loaded 04:36:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:36:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:45:43 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:47:06 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:50:35 -!- urechis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:19 -!- urechis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:04:27 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:06:13 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:10:00 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:10:48 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:14:13 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:18:08 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:22:16 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:29:13 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:32:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32:44 -!- Ipsum has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:33:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:12 The build has errored. 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Use !messages to read it. 08:48:50 3. magipi the Sensei (L23 MiMo of Jiyva), starved to death on Zot:5 on 2015-08-20 00:31:49, with 496521 points after 71332 turns and 7:13:43. 08:48:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:56 .cobbed -log 08:48:56 3. magipi, XL23 MiMo, T:71332: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/magipi/morgue-magipi-20150820-003149.txt 08:53:48 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:55:54 !messages 08:55:54 (1/1) amalloy said (9h 53m 13s ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/3hntgf/grfi_close_to_my_first_win_maybe/ - "Say hello to my GrFi^Qazal. He is big strong gargoyle. He is standing at the Gate of Zot. I dipped down twice and was nearly killed, by starvation. Stupid death cobs." 08:56:12 amalloy_: thanks for sending that over. What's your take on it? 08:56:28 |amethyst: do you think #9886 and dupes are the roxanne thing? 08:57:08 |amethyst: they all seem to be located in approx her spawning range 08:57:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:09:39 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:12:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:12:36 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:34 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:43 -!- stickup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:18:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:19:55 <|amethyst> wheals: aha, yes, that does happen if Roxanne was part of level gen 09:21:14 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:05 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:25:36 <|amethyst> wheals: indeed, all the ones with a save have Roxanne on that level, without a book 09:25:41 <|amethyst> wheals: thanks 09:26:41 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:27:24 -!- joke_LA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:27:27 np 09:27:35 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Gerad the Evocator (L25 DgGl), starved to death on Zot:4 on 2015-08-20 15:13:09, with 621684 points after 76066 turns and 4:54:44. 11:53:16 Lasty keeps rackin' em up! 11:54:00 4:54...a fairly quick game 11:54:54 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:48 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:10:14 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21:32 -!- orbekk has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 12:21:37 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:46 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:25:04 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:25:49 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:12 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:06 -!- blinkfrog has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:28:40 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:31:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:09 -!- _aardvark has quit [Client Quit] 12:34:09 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:34:34 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36:06 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:37:18 Lasty_: i didn't really have a strong opinion on it, just thought it was somthing you would appreciate. in the comments, someone points out that this dude has only eaten one chunk all game 12:38:35 so the fact that he made it to zot "proves" that there's enough permafood around, but the fact that he's almost out of rations due to cobs means that it's plausible that you have to eat chunks early to avoid being endangered by cobs 12:41:40 -!- _aardvark has quit [Client Quit] 12:43:36 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:44:12 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:47 -!- _aardvark has quit [Client Quit] 12:45:53 eating chunks? blasphemy! 12:46:18 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:46:48 -!- Foamed1 has quit [Quit: RIP] 12:47:25 -!- Amnekian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48:19 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:05 <|amethyst> I think the multiplicative hungering is kind of spoilery 12:53:34 <|amethyst> If you don't know that it's multiplicative, you might expect that you should "heal" your hunger damage quickly 12:56:27 -!- lemonpepper24 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56:47 <|amethyst> but in reality that would make the hits subtract more absolute nutrition; you will save food if you only eat when you get to starving, so a single hit loses only around 600 hunger (if you're eating pizza), rather than the ~3000 hunger at max nutrition 12:59:32 <|amethyst> not sure what the solution is; capping hungering at 600 per hit seems like it might weaken the effect too much, and doesn't even fully solve the problem, since you're still better off getting to starving and eating fruit 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:45 actually you'd be better off eating up so you don't have to waste turns eating while something is attempting to kill you 13:01:58 <|amethyst> I mean, once you're in combat 13:02:39 -!- lemonpepper24 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:52 -!- tcsc_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:03:29 <|amethyst> at max nutrition you can't eat fast enough to keep up, but at lower nutrition you can, so turns spent eating while you're still at high nutrition are wasted 13:04:17 <|amethyst> eating while in combat with a hghost 13:05:20 <|amethyst> well, I guess I'm not taking evasion into account, so you might be able to keep up, but still you could keep up with less eating if you wait 13:05:46 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1698-ga4b5924 (34) 13:07:10 gammafunk: having seen the cobbed replays, what do you think? Positive? Negative? The deaths I've seen so far all involve tabbing repeatedly while starving. 13:07:14 .cobbed -log 13:07:15 4. Gerad, XL25 DgGl, T:76066: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Gerad/morgue-Gerad-20150820-151309.txt 13:07:54 Well it's probably ideal to walk around Zot engorged now 13:07:56 <|amethyst> perhaps tab shouldn't work while you're starving? 13:07:59 oof, that last one is pretty much the exact target: high AC, lowish EV, otherwise pretty indestructable 13:08:11 It already was :D 13:08:12 <|amethyst> o already doesn't 13:08:22 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:33 It should be optional to disable tab while starving, even if it's the default option 13:09:40 <|amethyst> yeah, just like you can set autofight_stop = 0 13:10:01 lol, that last one actually starved to death after killing the cob, because he took the time to walk to a corpse and butcher instead of eating food 13:10:10 yes, I saw that too 13:10:17 not sure how that decision was made... 13:10:30 !lg * killer=death_cob 13:10:31 38. puppykicker the Pyromancer (L27 HOFE of Vehumet), slain by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-08-20 16:58:13, with 671916 points after 111202 turns and 10:19:50. 13:10:41 hrm 13:10:43 we have a few people actually getting killed by them directly, too. That's good. 13:10:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:10:45 .cobbed 3 13:10:46 3/4. magipi the Sensei (L23 MiMo of Jiyva), starved to death on Zot:5 on 2015-08-20 00:31:49, with 496521 points after 71332 turns and 7:13:43. 13:10:50 !lg * killer=death_cob -log 13:10:50 38. puppykicker, XL27 HOFE, T:111202: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/puppykicker/morgue-puppykicker-20150820-165813.txt 13:10:54 <|amethyst> maybe it would help to show "fainting" instead of "starving" if you're that low? 13:10:58 !lg magipi ikiller=death_cob 13:10:58 No games for magipi (ikiller=death_cob). 13:11:07 oh, that was during paralysis 13:11:11 !lg magipi mimo x=ikiller 13:11:12 3. [ikiller=] magipi the Sensei (L23 MiMo of Jiyva), starved to death on Zot:5 on 2015-08-20 00:31:49, with 496521 points after 71332 turns and 7:13:43. 13:11:25 |amethyst: IIRC, you aren't guaranteed to faint before dying 13:11:36 also seems maybe odd that the cobb wasn't the killer there, but I suppose starvation never has an ikiller? 13:11:43 !lg * killer=death_cob status!~~para 13:11:43 36. hemol the Conqueror (L27 MiFi of The Shining One), slain by a death cob on Zot:4 on 2015-05-08 01:31:43, with 740041 points after 70750 turns and 14:46:31. 13:11:54 <|amethyst> right, but you *are* guaranteed not to faint at the top of starving 13:11:56 gammafunk: correct 13:12:09 aww, no one has actually been killed in straight up melee by one yet 13:12:22 !cmd .cobbed 13:12:22 Command: .cobbed => !lg * vlong>=0.17-a0-1659-gf62aa6c br=zot ktype=starvation 13:12:49 !lg * vlong>=0.17-a0-1659-gf62aa6c br=zot ktype=starvation killer=|death_cob 13:12:50 No games for * (vlong>=0.17-a0-1659-gf62aa6c br=zot ktype=starvation killer=|death_cob). 13:13:10 !kw hungrycobs vlong>=0.17-a0-1659-gf62aa6c 13:13:10 Defined keyword: hungrycobs => vlong>=0.17-a0-1659-gf62aa6c 13:13:13 !lg * vlong>=0.17-a0-1659-gf62aa6c br=zot (ktype=starvation | killer=death_cob) 13:13:14 Broken query near '=starvation | killer=death_cob)' 13:13:30 !cmd .cobbed !lg hungrycobs br=zot ktype=starvation $* 13:13:30 Redefined command: .cobbed => !lg hungrycobs br=zot ktype=starvation $* 13:13:38 .cobbed 13:13:38 No games for hungrycobs (br=zot ktype=starvation). 13:13:38 er 13:13:42 !cmd .cobbed !lg * hungrycobs br=zot ktype=starvation $* 13:13:42 Redefined command: .cobbed => !lg * hungrycobs br=zot ktype=starvation $* 13:13:45 .cobbed 13:13:46 4. Gerad the Evocator (L25 DgGl), starved to death on Zot:4 on 2015-08-20 15:13:09, with 621684 points after 76066 turns and 4:54:44. 13:13:56 !lg * hungrycobs ikiller=death_cob 13:13:57 1. puppykicker the Pyromancer (L27 HOFE of Vehumet), slain by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-08-20 16:58:13, with 671916 points after 111202 turns and 10:19:50. 13:14:03 that would be one 13:14:07 that would be one x=dam,tdam 13:14:15 !lg * hungrycobs ikiller=death_cob x=dam,tdam 13:14:16 1. [dam=14;tdam=17] puppykicker the Pyromancer (L27 HOFE of Vehumet), slain by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-08-20 16:58:13, with 671916 points after 111202 turns and 10:19:50. 13:14:19 yeah, but he was also paralysed by hunger, so it was effectively a hunger death 13:14:42 <|amethyst> would be nice to have an ikiller, but not really sure how you'd do that when AF_HUNGER can't actually drop you to zero 13:14:42 well, it's melee isn't terribly interesting otherwise 13:14:42 Is there a way to do a union between two Sequell queries? 13:14:46 although I guess it's quite fast 13:14:53 @??death_cob 13:14:53 death cob (08%) | Spd: 25 | HD: 14 | HP: 74-107 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 3502(hunger) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2277 | Sz: tiny | Int: human. 13:15:05 yeah you could do both 13:15:21 <|amethyst> !lg * hungrycobs (ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation) x=ktyp,dam,tdam 13:15:21 |amethyst: we'd have to do something like 1) store when an AF_HUNGER monster hits you, 2) clear it when you eat, 3) log that monster as ikiller if you starve to death 13:15:21 Broken query near 'x=ktyp,dam,tdam' 13:15:35 <|amethyst> !lg * hungrycobs ((ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation)) x=ktyp,dam,tdam 13:15:35 31. [ktyp=mon;dam=14;tdam=17] puppykicker the Pyromancer (L27 HOFE of Vehumet), slain by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-08-20 16:58:13, with 671916 points after 111202 turns and 10:19:50. 13:15:39 <|amethyst> !lg * hungrycobs ((ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation)) x=ktyp,dam,tdam -2 13:15:40 30/31. [ktyp=starvation;dam=-9999;tdam=0] demonpo the Skirmisher (L2 TrBe of Trog), starved to death on D:1 on 2015-08-20 15:59:55, with 14 points after 644 turns and 0:02:13. 13:15:44 <|amethyst> oh 13:15:46 gammafunk: in my testing, characters with AC/EV in the low 20s took very high damage from the cob 13:15:49 <|amethyst> !lg * hungrycobs ((ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation place=zot)) x=ktyp,dam,tdam -2 13:15:49 br=zot, yeah 13:15:50 4/5. [ktyp=starvation;dam=-9999;tdam=0] Gerad the Evocator (L25 DgGl), starved to death on Zot:4 on 2015-08-20 15:13:09, with 621684 points after 76066 turns and 4:54:44. 13:15:54 <|amethyst> !lg * hungrycobs ((ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation place=zot)) x=ktyp,dam,tdam -1 13:15:54 5. [ktyp=mon;dam=14;tdam=17] puppykicker the Pyromancer (L27 HOFE of Vehumet), slain by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-08-20 16:58:13, with 671916 points after 111202 turns and 10:19:50. 13:16:30 Lasty_: sure, they would with pretty bad defenses; they have something like, what 13:16:33 @??orb_guardian 13:16:33 Orb Guardian (06X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 15 | HP: 68-101 | AC/EV: 13/13 | Dam: 45 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 2762 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 13:16:37 oh see 45 13:16:49 !calc 35 * 3.0 / 2.0 13:16:50 52.5 13:16:59 <|amethyst> Lasty_: that would theoretically give too much credit, though, since you might get one hit from a hghost, then starve to death from stupidity instead 13:17:08 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:17:16 they're like slightly stronger than an orb guardian I guess 13:17:20 <|amethyst> Lasty_: maybe only set it when the hit takes you below starving 13:17:37 not factoring in how AC is more effective against them 13:18:28 you can also hex them fairly easilly, and they're vuln to dispel, but that's pretty niche 13:19:00 |amethyst: yeah, that's a possibility, but it's not like we factor out stupidity in other deaths 13:19:05 oh they're tiny, huh 13:19:13 they're an ear of corn :p 13:19:36 they're like a big scarecrow made from corn, look at the tile! 13:20:00 No! 13:20:02 I refuse! 13:20:09 %4lyfe 13:20:09 ontoclasm weeps... 13:21:16 <|amethyst> FR: death cob gauntlet vault 13:21:20 <|amethyst> "You enter a passage of twisty maize, all alike." 13:21:43 neil_zot_maize 13:22:03 <|amethyst> bah, I use amethyst_ for my vaults :) 13:22:12 oh, sorry, I should have remembered 13:22:46 <|amethyst> all four of them ever (two current) 13:23:01 Lasty_: But yeah, I wonder if perhaps their frequency should be dialed down eventually 13:23:51 I'm not sure if any of my vaults are still in the game... 13:24:23 gammafunk: as in, they're too strong for the frequency they're at, or too irritating? 13:24:30 <|amethyst> !vault lasty_cornered_adventurer 13:24:30 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des#l3179 13:24:48 man, I haven't seen that in like 2 yrs 13:24:54 <|amethyst> which is a little anachronistic 13:24:54 and I play a lot of crawl :p 13:24:56 perhaps the latter, yeah. If you have to stay engorged every floor because you know you'll fight at least 2-3 of those things 13:25:06 But truthfully I'm not sure...oh 13:25:11 I mean, there's really no reason not to stay engorged through all of Zot 13:25:25 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:25:48 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: ldf_] 13:25:55 oh, they can appear in crypt..huh 13:26:00 oof 13:26:11 Looks like about 1.5 per floor on average 13:26:11 They're definitely on the scary end of crypt 13:26:16 probably should be made more OOD 13:26:17 guess that's not too bad 13:26:25 Yeah, those crypt vaults might need a look at 13:26:27 !source mon-pick-data.cc 13:26:28 Can't find mon-pick-data.cc. 13:26:29 <|amethyst> !lg * hungrycobs ((ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation)) place=crypt x=ktyp,dam,tdam 13:26:30 1. [ktyp=starvation;dam=-9999;tdam=0] Waterpls the Executioner (L27 FoFi of The Shining One), starved to death on Crypt:3 (grunt_crypt_end_deaths_head) on 2015-08-16 11:00:27, with 558310 points after 60046 turns and 5:19:00. 13:26:38 nice 13:26:41 !source mon-pick-data.h 13:26:41 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-pick-data.h 13:26:48 good dam 13:26:56 looks like we have a crypt hungrycob casualty already 13:27:10 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:27:21 weird, I don't see a placement for them in crypt 13:27:25 cobs can spawn in crypt? 13:27:26 it would be a vault 13:27:32 and I'm goig to guess hangedman 13:27:38 but it could be others! 13:27:58 ah right grunt is one 13:28:04 heh...it's just that vault 13:28:23 Well that's easy enough to edit, then 13:28:29 KMONS: 8 = death cob / skeletal warrior 13:28:38 not exactly equivalent to a skeletal warrior 13:29:26 Lasty_: guess a reminder that you want to recursive grep dat/des for monster placement when you change a monster like that 13:29:47 <|amethyst> I wonder how many Waterpls got 13:29:57 <|amethyst> it looks like you can get between 1 and 4, average 2 13:30:17 <|amethyst> would making it always 1 rather than 0 still be too much? 13:30:22 <|amethyst> err, between 0 and 4 13:30:51 gammafunk: yeah, good reminder 13:30:52 <|amethyst> !lg waterpls ktyp=starvation -log 13:30:53 3. Waterpls, XL27 FoFi, T:60046: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Waterpls/morgue-Waterpls-20150816-110027.txt 13:31:31 Well, I would claim that we try to keep branch-specific monsters in their branch, and MarvinPA has tried to do this a lot 13:31:44 I think it'd be reasonable to remove death cobs from that vault 13:31:45 but there are exceptions, like elec golems in a variant of dorokhle 13:31:51 Yeah, it's not a portal 13:32:28 Not anything particularly thematic about that end and death cobs anyhow 13:32:43 maybe Grunt can make a corncob-shaped variant 13:33:07 <|amethyst> hm 13:33:13 haha 13:33:19 <|amethyst> the mention of electric golems does give me a Zot vault idea 13:33:23 ! 13:33:29 <|amethyst> with egolems and death cobs 13:33:38 I like it already 13:33:39 <|amethyst> amethyst_foddershock 13:33:45 lol 13:34:03 seems on-curve for crypt. <.< >.> 13:34:12 hopefully my record-setting DESu dies in that vault 13:34:18 tho I suppose crypt generally have have a.liches 13:34:31 yeah a.liches are also in v:5 13:34:47 s/have have/does have/ 13:34:50 even in the pop_vaults list for that depth 13:35:11 so they're considered not branch-specific for whatever reason 13:35:41 but I think dracs, e. golems, orbs of fire, death cobs is a good set of branch-specific ones 13:35:54 <|amethyst> err 13:35:59 <|amethyst> so there's this nicolae vault 13:36:04 oh I guess cursed toes? not sure if those show up elsewhere 13:36:09 <|amethyst> with what looks like 8 death cobs? 13:36:13 haha 13:36:21 <|amethyst> !vault nicolae_zot_crop_circle 13:36:21 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des#l2208 13:36:43 yeah that's just about the worst thing ever now 13:37:57 2 or 3 tops I'd guess 13:38:06 lol, yeah 13:38:19 To be fair, Zot is supposed to be scary... 13:38:21 Lasty_: did you actually look at zot.des, or just forgot? 13:38:38 or perhaps "conveniently forgot"! 13:38:41 I was aware of that vault 13:38:43 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:39:09 I should have thought to look myself 13:39:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:39:59 looks like we should also adjust hangedman_zot_vaults_quadrants 13:40:03 I'm not much of a vault designer, but I thought it'd be reasonable to leave things as they are in Zot vaults until I have a better sense of the exact impact. If some people get a ton of cobs, well, that provides a unique datapoint. 13:40:43 Well, you'll generally do ok with just an informal "what would it be like to fight N of FOO" 13:41:03 yeah, and I tested that out in wizmode 13:41:21 since in most situations it's not going to be different than just getting that many spawns in whatever proximity 13:41:46 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:44 Undead are immune to ?fear, right? 13:44:07 -!- FourHTwoA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:35 gammafunk: I suppose it probably is bad form to make existing vaults suddenly way more deadly. 13:44:40 I should be more thoughtful about that. 13:45:12 -!- Nekomancer is now known as Guest66147 13:45:23 Lasty_: yeah, even if you don't get the adjustment quite right, it's better than leaving it in a more relatively broken state. no worries of course, just don't be afraid to adjust 13:48:37 @??vampire_knight 13:48:37 vampire knight (10V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 45-93 | AC/EV: 19/7 | Dam: 33, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1347 | Sp: blink close, paralyse, haste, invisibility, vampiric draining [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | I.. 13:53:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:57:08 -!- chance672_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:58:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:58:22 <|amethyst> Probably trying too hard: http://sprunge.us/dAIC 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:01:59 patrolling? I imagine them wandering out and the joke being somewhat lost 14:02:09 that's dependent on noise, of course 14:05:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:06:48 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:08:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:11:00 <|amethyst> yeah, I was thinking about that 14:16:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 14:17:47 <|amethyst> hm, I guess it should also have orient: float 14:19:32 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:20:48 <|amethyst> no, even more vetoes that way 14:22:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:22 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1699-g4ffd852: Adjust some vaults relative to new death cobs 10(38 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ffd852bdf02 14:25:03 that should use mons instead of kmons, but oh well 14:30:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm, could that be simplified to NSUBST: p = 2:2 / 1:21 / 1 ? 14:31:33 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:36:44 <|amethyst> eh, someone can always remove this if it sucks I guess 14:36:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1700-g19f7422: A silly zot vault with food and electricity. 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19f74228b1d4 14:39:44 <|amethyst> maybe that backing wall along the N can go, but the idea was to make it harder to avoid reflections 14:42:07 |amethyst: yeah, I think you're right 14:44:20 -!- FiftyNine has quit [] 14:44:24 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1701-gf693a3f: Simmplify some vault syntax (|amethyst) 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f693a3f0ec4c 14:44:37 grr, s/mm/m/ 14:44:48 that's what I get for using command-line commit messages 14:44:51 <|amethyst> !seen simmarine 14:44:52 I last saw simmarine at Thu Aug 20 17:41:46 2015 UTC (1h 3m 5s ago) joining the channel. 14:44:57 hi 14:45:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk was apparently thinking of you while typing that commit message :) 14:45:25 ah, yes i see 14:45:31 .cobbed 14:45:33 4. Gerad the Evocator (L25 DgGl), starved to death on Zot:4 on 2015-08-20 15:13:09, with 621684 points after 76066 turns and 4:54:44. 14:46:50 !cmd .cobbed !lg * hungrycobs place=zot ((ktype=starvation || ikiller=death_cob)) $* 14:46:50 Redefined command: .cobbed => !lg * hungrycobs place=zot ((ktype=starvation || ikiller=death_cob)) $* 14:46:53 .cobbed 14:46:54 5. puppykicker the Pyromancer (L27 HOFE of Vehumet), slain by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-08-20 16:58:13, with 671916 points after 111202 turns and 10:19:50. 14:47:58 .moonrank 14:47:58 71 games for * (moonland br=wizlab): 18x wizlab_lehudib, 17x wizlab_doroklohe, 9x wizlab_iskenderun, 7x wizlab_wucad, 6x wizlab_demon, 5x wizlab_golubria, 4x wizlab_zonguldrok, 3x wizlab_cigotuvi, 2x wizlab_cloud 14:48:03 !cmd .cobbed !lg * hungrycobs ((ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation)) place=crypt|zot 14:48:04 Redefined command: .cobbed => !lg * hungrycobs ((ikiller=death_cob || ktype=starvation)) place=crypt|zot 14:48:07 It's back and forth between me and dpeg 14:48:08 argh, sorry 14:48:15 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 14:48:22 !cmd .cobbed !lg * hungrycobs place=zot|crypt ((ktype=starvation || ikiller=death_cob)) $* 14:48:22 Redefined command: .cobbed => !lg * hungrycobs place=zot|crypt ((ktype=starvation || ikiller=death_cob)) $* 14:48:29 .cobbed 14:48:30 6. puppykicker the Pyromancer (L27 HOFE of Vehumet), slain by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-08-20 16:58:13, with 671916 points after 111202 turns and 10:19:50. 14:48:37 .cobbed br=crypt 14:48:38 1. Waterpls the Executioner (L27 FoFi of The Shining One), starved to death on Crypt:3 (grunt_crypt_end_deaths_head) on 2015-08-16 11:00:27, with 558310 points after 60046 turns and 5:19:00. 14:48:57 not going to be many more crypt cobbs though 14:49:03 true 14:49:11 I just don't want that death to go unremarked 14:49:35 Yes, we want to have as amaizing a cob count as possible 14:49:37 plus, we have to account for people luring them from Zot to Crypt in order to die. <.< >.> 14:52:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:52:35 -!- bel has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:52:39 -!- FourHTwoA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:53:30 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:33 -!- Guest66147 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:09:41 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:42 The build passed. 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(beam 'fireball', source 'tengu reaver', item 'none'; has range -1) (Depths:5) 16:36:08 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:09 The build passed. (master - f693a3f #3074 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/76510929 16:36:09 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:37:46 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:30 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:51:24 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:51:51 yay, I passed! 16:52:18 i'd like to make it so that player-ghost names aren't capitalized even at the beginning of a sentence: "Amalloy's ghost hits you" is worse than "amalloy's ghost hits you". am i right that this would be pretty hard to do? it seems to me that implicit capitalization happens when you choose mpr vs mpr_nocap; those are called from all sorts of places that don't currently know if a player ghost is involved 16:53:15 not even sure how that works...I guess all unique names we generate have an upper-case first character, don't they 16:53:32 would be good to apply that to messages from players with non-capitalised first letters too 16:53:42 but yeah iirc it's hard 16:53:54 didn't wheals actually fix that one? 16:53:59 oh, maybe! 16:54:00 the messages, I mean 16:54:07 since that's only through one call 16:54:13 oh i see, yeah 16:54:20 seems feasible at least 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:13 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:01:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:05:25 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:53 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:57 -!- Prozacelf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:06 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:20:39 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:30:12 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:59 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:52 -!- FourHTwoA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:21 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:37:17 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:04 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:40:11 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:41:46 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:43:05 <|amethyst> one possibility would be to write the name as playername 17:43:17 -!- CcS has quit [] 17:43:26 <|amethyst> but I guess not all terminals would handle ZWNJ, so maybe that would need to be stripped out again later 17:43:41 <|amethyst> after capitalising the first character 17:45:22 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:49:43 that's a cute idea, |amethyst 17:50:03 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:08 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:53 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:42 -!- myp has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:12 -!- FourHTwoA has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:01:18 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1701-gf693a3f (34) 18:05:23 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:09 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:08:06 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:09:25 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:20:38 -!- FourHTwoA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:45 -!- Kanbei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:23:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:26:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:27:24 -!- FourHTwoA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:31:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:33:44 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35:32 -!- namad8 has quit [] 18:39:15 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:51:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:52:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:52:06 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:57:00 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:59:06 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:04:25 -!- Prozacelf has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 19:12:32 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:13:01 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:13:11 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:17:18 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:29:51 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:31:19 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:34 Labyrinth -> Abyss (door) -> Depart the Abyss -> Back to Dungen 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9920 by DreamWalker 19:36:12 must have taken the portal 19:36:22 but then that'd be the intended behaviour 19:36:41 yes 19:37:14 he actually escaped not with an abyss exit, but I guess that doesn't matter either 19:37:46 -!- staplegun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:38:21 I guess the idea of that abyss portal is that you're escaping from the lab 19:38:53 since you're possibly low on food (hah) or feel it's too dangerous to use the exit near the minotaur 19:39:05 so I guess that's pretty much a won't-fix 19:39:19 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:39:27 more or less, although it's somewhat unintuitive, much like abyss exits in pan 19:39:28 yeah, this looks like the intended behavior all along 19:39:47 you'd expect walking into an abyss portal and unwielding disto or whatever doing the exact same thing 19:39:52 the one that had me unsure is, what if you enter the abyss from the lab via lugonu's invocation? 19:39:56 <_miek> I didn't realise the abyss portal in labyrinth was supposed to be an esacpe 19:40:04 amalloy: you return back to the lab 19:40:09 kvaak: i know, i tried it 19:40:16