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00:34:02 <|amethyst> ¡learn add polymorph "Just as I'm killing Arachne, Xom turns her into an almost full-health Stone Giant. But a stone giant that shoots poison out its...stones...and web out of its.....stones....not stone giant behaviors. Just a big healthy stoned Arachne death spider machine gunning me with poison arrow."
00:34:03 <Sequell> Okay, not adding polymorph => "Just as I'm killing Arachne, Xom turns her into an almost full-health Stone Giant. But a stone giant that shoots poison out its...stones...and web out of its.....stones....not stone giant behaviors. Just a big healthy stoned Arachne death spider machine gunning me with poison arrow."
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00:47:43 <Undo> Wait, what?
00:48:50 <|amethyst> a quote from reddit
00:49:33 <|amethyst> arachne's spells are wizardly, not natural, so persist across polymorph (if the target is smart enough)
00:49:42 <Undo> Sure
00:49:45 <|amethyst> s/natural/innate/
00:49:55 <Undo> Ah I didn't spot the "ilearn" instead of "!learn"
00:50:13 <|amethyst> !cmd ¡learn
00:50:14 <Sequell> No command !¡learn
00:50:20 <Undo> ... what
00:50:24 <|amethyst> oh right
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00:51:49 <|amethyst> !learn q :beh:[14]
00:51:49 <Sequell> :beh:[14/23]: ^¡learn add $word >>>::: Okay, not adding $word => $after
00:52:08 <|amethyst> not sure why I didn't just make it a command
00:52:23 <|amethyst> !wtf drke
00:52:23 <Sequell> Doctor Kenku
00:53:02 <Undo> I.... what.
00:53:27 <_miek> it would probably be !¡learn if it was a command
00:53:41 <|amethyst> ??learnen
00:53:41 <Sequell> lernaean_hydra[1/3]: A 27-headed yellow hydra, placed in many of the Swamp endings (and only there). If you don't have very high AC/HP, don't use autoexplore around its Swamp:4 vault: !tv minmay killer=~lernaean 1. Was introduced in 0.6 but was in the code before that.
00:53:42 <Undo> What is it instead?
00:54:02 <_miek> just ¡learn
00:54:14 <Undo> Er I mean, if it's not a command, what is it?
00:54:14 <|amethyst> https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md#behaviour
00:54:25 <|amethyst> :beh: is access controlled nowadays
00:54:28 <_miek> its a :beh:, which is essentially just a fancy trigger for sequell
00:54:49 <|amethyst> since you can wedge sequell pretty good with a bad :beh:
00:54:56 <Undo> Ahhh.
00:55:16 <|amethyst> ??laaaaaaaaernan
00:55:17 <Sequell> lernaean_hydra[1/3]: A 27-headed yellow hydra, placed in many of the Swamp endings (and only there). If you don't have very high AC/HP, don't use autoexplore around its Swamp:4 vault: !tv minmay killer=~lernaean 1. Was introduced in 0.6 but was in the code before that.
00:55:33 <Undo> hahaha
00:56:26 <|amethyst> http://lookupdb.guy.ht/#term/:beh:  are the currently defined behaviours
00:56:43 <|amethyst> ?? doesn't work so well for that, but !learn q does
00:56:43 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled doesn't_work_so_well_for_that,_but_!learn_q_does in my learndb.
00:56:50 <|amethyst> thanks sequell
00:57:07 <|amethyst> since ?? expands the $() stuff
00:57:14 <|amethyst> ??:beh:
00:57:15 <Sequell> :beh:[1/23]: Sequell: help ::: help[1/4]: !help (I need somebody) !help (not just anybody) Try https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md or https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md
00:57:24 <|amethyst> !learn q :beh:
00:57:25 <Sequell> :beh:[1/23]: $bot: help ::: $(ldb help)
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01:06:01 <Undo> I guess I have a fair bit of syntax to learn for the bot commands o.o
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02:45:23 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1646-geb1493d
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10:38:33 <Cheibriados> Did not receive Okawaru warning on Corona 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9901 by cvaneseltine
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14:04:54 <amalloy> ??mantis
14:04:54 <Sequell> mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php
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14:13:08 <amalloy> something i mentioned last week but didn't hear back about: one of elyvilon's wrath actions seems like it doesn't fit the game philosophy anymore. specifically, dulling your weapons. it makes much less sense now that ely doesn't take weapon sacrifices. also, it encourages the same bad behavior that old mummy curses did: carrying around a bunch of junk weapons
14:14:06 <amalloy> this doesn't actually decrease the odds of your important weapons being dulled, since it is implemented as N independent chances across your N weapons; however, the more weapons are dulled the more penance you work off, so it's better to have more
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14:19:02 <amalloy> i don't have a concrete plan for fixing this, but the most obvious plausible options seem to be: remove the weapon-dulling action; or make the number of weapons dulled not impact the penance counter
14:19:41 <n1k> I believe it's also beneficial to hit plants while under Ely wrath
14:20:25 <n1k> because some attacks will be blocked which reduces penance every time it happens
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14:23:34 <amalloy> n1k: looking at attack.cc i don't see any penance changes in the ely blocking clauses
14:24:06 <amalloy> i think that is just something that happens on 5% of all attacks until you work off your penance through other wrath actions
14:24:24 <n1k> hm
14:24:34 <n1k> ??elyvilon wrath
14:24:34 <Sequell> elyvilon wrath[1/2]: No effect unless you are worshipping evil. Otherwise, confusion, poison miscasts (0-1), and mass inventory weapon disenchantment. While in penance, Elyvilon will also occasionally block your attacks. This reduces your penance.
14:24:55 <amalloy> so learndb claims, but...
14:24:57 <n1k> I wonder if that's a change because I'm fairly certain I'm remembering swinging at plants being a tech
14:25:08 <amalloy> !source melee_attack::attack
14:25:08 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc#l729
14:25:50 <amalloy> search for elyvilon in there, and it's pretty clear that it just checks whether you're in penance and then has a 5% chance to cancel the attack, without going through any sneaky god code that would decrease penance
14:27:51 <amalloy> %git c464a65d68355d6ceaf34fbdcd00a6ba3ddad50f
14:27:51 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-738-gc464a65: Don't reduce penance when Elyvilon blocks melee attacks 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c464a65d6835
14:27:59 <n1k> ah good
14:28:21 <amalloy> no explanation of why, but i assume it is your fault, n1k, for attacking plants
14:28:39 <amalloy> !learn edit elyvilon_wrath[1] s/ this reduces.*//
14:28:39 <Sequell> elyvilon wrath[1/2]: No effect unless you are worshipping evil. Otherwise, confusion, poison miscasts (0-1), and mass inventory weapon disenchantment. While in penance, Elyvilon will also occasionally block your attacks.
14:28:44 <n1k> I'm sure marvinpa knew about this 'tech'
14:29:10 <amalloy> actually
14:29:16 <n1k> this is a new low for me, complaining about a 0.12 feature
14:29:23 <amalloy> !learn edit elyvilon_wrath[1] s/$/ This does not reduce your penance./
14:29:24 <Sequell> elyvilon wrath[1/2]: No effect unless you are worshipping evil. Otherwise, confusion, poison miscasts (0-1), and mass inventory weapon disenchantment. While in penance, Elyvilon will also occasionally block your attacks. This does not reduce your penance.
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15:19:35 <gammafunk> ??unborn
15:19:36 <Sequell> unborn[1/1]: A brown L that worships Yred and casts agony, dispel undead, injury mirror, animate dead, and haunt.
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16:26:43 <gammafunk> %git
16:26:43 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-1646-geb1493d: Revert "Don't give teleportitis mutation." 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb1493dc8c98
16:26:56 <gammafunk> %git :/Wiz
16:26:57 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-1643-gab9745c: Print a message describing the WizLab map upon entering 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab9745cbe3c6
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16:33:56 <Zannick> in fact, always give teleportitis mutation
16:34:56 <gammafunk> we need to figure out, once and for all, if that mutation is dangerous, so always giving it is the best way
16:34:59 <gammafunk> hrm
16:35:08 <gammafunk> %git 74de702
16:35:08 <Cheibriados> 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1630-g74de702: Local tiles: let ctrl-click close doors again (#9541). 10(10 days ago, 3 files, 57+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/74de7021f729
16:35:09 <|amethyst> !lg * explbr=imp
16:35:10 <Sequell> 379. Peztopiary the Poker (L4 ImBe of Trog), blasted by Jessica (wand of magic darts) on D:2 on 2015-08-10 16:19:26, with 102 points after 1593 turns and 0:16:08.
16:35:23 <gammafunk> |amethyst: that commit I just linked is applying a bit oddly
16:35:32 <gammafunk> partially because of
16:35:33 <gammafunk> if (you.confused() && !one_chance_in(3))
16:35:33 <gammafunk> door_move.delta = Compass[random2(8)];
16:35:36 <gammafunk> in 0.16
16:35:40 <gammafunk> which I guess was removed in trunk?
16:35:46 <|amethyst> oh, hm
16:36:21 <gammafunk> was going to fix it up, I just don't know if there are any trunk changes that make this commit not work in 0.16
16:36:38 <|amethyst> Yeah, maybe best to leave it out to be safe
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16:37:04 <gammafunk> can't have all the great Tiles fixes in 0.16, otherwise people won't upgrade!
16:37:09 <|amethyst> :)
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16:53:57 <gammafunk> huh, cherry-picking a merge commit is kind of weird
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17:03:17 <gammafunk> %git 192330b659ea2d92287462f3722850710a6793fc
17:03:17 <Cheibriados> 07amalloy02 * 0.17-a0-1552-g192330b: Use 'into' instead of 'in to' 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/192330b659ea
17:04:20 <gammafunk> ohhh
17:04:36 <gammafunk> I'm looking at the commit by order of date of authorship
17:04:50 <gammafunk> kind of confusing when the merge commit comes much later
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17:27:06 <gammafunk> oh, seems I can't really cherry pick my welcome message commit
17:27:20 <gammafunk> there must be a code cleaning up the generic wizlab welcome
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17:33:44 <gammafunk> %git stone_soup-0.16
17:33:44 <Cheibriados> 07|amethyst02 * 0.16.1-51-g6203257: Don't crash on remembered thrown weapon choice (#9591) 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/620325766697
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17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-52-gde080b3: Mention Chei stat boosts on the religion screen (#9842) 10(5 weeks ago, 2 files, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de080b3b5e10
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-53-g8ef79e0: Redraw stats when abandoning Chei 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ef79e0ac625
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-54-g71cebe3: Display base attributes on @ (tasonir) 10(5 weeks ago, 3 files, 19+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/71cebe34f022
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-55-g1d56cb2: Don't print a duplicate message when adjusting the same slot (#9814) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d56cb24e388
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-56-g250d399: Fix profane servitors not actually worshipping Yred (|amethyst) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/250d39949ab4
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03Kurt Kartaltepe02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-57-gbbe5d56: Fix R-Click not exiting certain menus 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbe5d569d066
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-58-g094d9e0: Err conservatively when rounding hex %success (#9877) 10(2 weeks ago, 3 files, 13+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/094d9e0f91d8
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-59-g734a964: Don't ghostify wellsprings from late June 2013. 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/734a964419b9
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-60-g6ebb9d7: Local tiles: Fix a missing item name (#9773). 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6ebb9d71f5ec
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-61-g8635166: Tiles: Hells upstairs don't get the "unexplored" asterisk (Arrhythmia). 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/863516629df2
17:34:27 <Cheibriados> ... and 4 more commits
17:35:54 <gammafunk> |amethyst: if that looks good to you, I'll tag it and start making the debs
17:36:16 <gammafunk> sadly my wizlab announce commit won't work, since the stairs code changed so much
17:36:53 <gammafunk> and I elected not to include that more extensive R-click commit since it changed players' expectations about the m screen, as you said
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17:38:04 <gammafunk> oh and I need to update the changelogs, both the text file and the debian dir one
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18:06:50 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-66-g04f09c5: Fix Singularity not breaking sanctuary (#9805) 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/04f09c54864b
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19:25:31 <gammafunk> My current 0.16.2 changelog: http://sprunge.us/GTXT
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22:09:31 <Lantell> Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16.1-66-g04f09c5
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22:12:08 <amalloy> i just noticed a player standing in Sil receive the message "The anubis guard howls a hunting cry". that should be inaudible, right?
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22:33:34 <gammafunk> sounds like it, yeah
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22:36:46 <amalloy> @??anubis guard
22:36:46 <Gretell> anubis guard (10H) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 37-62 | AC/EV: 5/13 | Dam: 30, 2013(drain) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(40), 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy | XP: 635 | Sp: hunting cry [11!AM, 08breath], b.draining (3d17) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], dispel undead (3d16) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
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22:43:04 <amalloy> actually it looks like pretty much no spells respect the player's silenced state. if you are silenced but the monster isn't, you can hear all the noises they make
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22:45:25 <gammafunk> oh
22:45:30 <gammafunk> I guess that makes sense
22:45:42 <gammafunk> it's probably an innate ability
22:45:45 <gammafunk> and not in fact a spell
22:45:56 <amalloy> it's silencable though
22:46:03 <gammafunk> hunting cry?
22:46:09 <gammafunk> oh I guess it is
22:46:18 <gammafunk> well something is up
22:46:21 <amalloy> why's that?
22:47:21 <amalloy> if you're silenced but the monster isn't, it should be allowed to cast hunting cry, but you shouldn't hear it. but as i said, that is the case for a lot of things, not just hunting cry
22:47:48 <gammafunk> well if the monster is silence and you aren't
22:47:54 <gammafunk> you can make noise and they don't hear it iirc
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22:59:38 <gammafunk> I really should just crosscompile and test in wine
22:59:54 <gammafunk> nothing like booting up a win 8 vm after a while and installing 54 updates
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23:01:09 <chequers> free upgrade to win10!
23:03:16 <gammafunk> ug, who knows how that will run in virtuabox!
23:03:18 <gammafunk> !lg lasty
23:03:20 <Sequell> 432. Lasty the Sniper (L23 DgWn), mangled by an Orb Guardian on Zot:1 on 2015-08-11 02:03:53, with 551078 points after 89725 turns and 4:39:47.
23:03:39 <gammafunk> Lasty_: What is this now, Z:1 death?!
23:03:56 <gammafunk> tabstorm reported it to me as "rip for no reason"
23:04:04 <gammafunk> this is going on your permanent record!
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23:56:12 <amalloy> i recently added a `force_more_message += You miscast` line to my rc, and it worked fine for quite a while, but i just noticed that when i pressed ` to repeat the same spell-casting i did last turn, i miscast but didn't get  -- more --. if i try to fix this, am i going to go insane from learning the input and/or delay code?
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