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CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:43:08 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:49:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:54:07 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:27 <|amethyst> wheals: you mean the whole monster? 09:56:11 -!- orost is now known as Porost 09:58:59 <|amethyst> wheals: at the very least you'd have to keep the monster alive by restoring its hit points; marshallMonster loses all information about dead monsters 09:59:16 <|amethyst> wheals: (keep the copy of the monster alive, that is) 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:44 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:06:43 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06:51 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:12:37 |amethyst: I want to run random.h through its paces, but it pulls in all kinds of stuff through AppHdr. Any thoughts on testing it? 10:13:55 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:49 <|amethyst> bh: simplest might be to test them within the game binary as we do make_name_tests 10:18:13 <|amethyst> The AppHdr.h thing is AFAICT an optimisation for pre-compiled headers and I'd be happy to have it go away and our files actually declare their own dependencies 10:18:47 <|amethyst> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OneBigHeaderFile 10:19:33 just migrate from Make to bazel :D 10:22:38 <|amethyst> if you want to build a separate binary out of (say) just random.cc and asg.cc, you'll also want to provide your own version of AssertFailed 10:23:17 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:24:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:15 <|amethyst> oh, you also nead syscalls.cc for read_urandom() but probably we'd want to switch that to use std::random_device instead 10:29:54 -!- inire2 is now known as inire 10:31:36 -!- nubinia has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:34:06 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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12:14:20 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:14:28 <|amethyst> ugh, the way other_weights switches from being a weight to being a stat increase, and all these other variables too 12:15:29 he doesn't have much dodging skill, it's omniziron's char btw not mine 12:15:41 |amethyst: hm 12:15:46 sorry, omnirizon i meant 12:16:04 <|amethyst> if you have no magic skills and no dodging your target stats before fuzzing ought to be 27/28 str 9 int 9/10 dex 12:16:32 <|amethyst> then fuzzing can do between -2 and +2 12:16:49 |amethyst: i'm trying to work on adding the beogh resurrection ability 12:17:11 <|amethyst> so at worse, target of str:25 int:11 dex:12 12:17:25 <|amethyst> so it doesn't seem like it ought to be taking from int and giving to str in that case 12:17:30 and making sure you can't use it to give an ally two things 12:18:40 <|amethyst> how is it tracked whether you have given an ally something? 12:18:50 a prop on the monster 12:18:53 <|amethyst> ah 12:19:05 at any rate it seems like a real pain to manually copy everything important (and what counts?) 12:20:00 -!- zauren has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20:16 <|amethyst> yeah, I think it's reasonable then to store a copy of a resurrectable monster in the corpse 12:20:32 <|amethyst> not sure what you'd have to go through to bring it back 12:20:50 also still need to handle items 12:21:17 <|amethyst> presumably those would be handled the same way they are for skeletons/zombies 12:21:42 the way zombies get items is so ugly/error-prone but short of adding unique ids to items i'm not sure how to improve it 12:21:49 <|amethyst> well 12:22:02 <|amethyst> hm 12:22:07 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 12:22:21 |amethyst: is that base stats btw or total stats? 12:23:08 "The item selection logic has one problem: if a first monster without any items dies and leaves a corpse, and then a second monster with items dies on the same spot but doesn't leave a corpse, then the undead can be equipped with the second monster's items if the second monster is either of the same type as the first, or if the second monster wasn't killed by the player or a player's pet." 12:23:51 <|amethyst> Kolbur: looks like it includes all modifiers 12:23:57 and there are other problems i assume -- like i doubt zombie nikola can wear his gloves? 12:24:05 hm 12:24:11 <|amethyst> wheals: store the mid of the last wielder in each item 12:24:28 <|amethyst> wheals: and the mid of the former monster in the corpse, if it's not there already 12:24:49 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:24:52 <|amethyst> since mids are never repeated 12:25:24 ha, looks like since he can't wear his gloves the function aborts and he doesn't even get his rapier 12:25:40 |amethyst: ah, good thought 12:26:28 -!- speranza has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26:29 ...why does x say "Nikola the human zombie" but xv says "Nikola, the human zombie" 12:27:51 |amethyst: looks like it's fine, he's wearing a -6 int item and his actual int is 11 and not 17 (he told me his base stats) 12:29:36 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:29:49 -!- FourHTwoA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:36 <|amethyst> ah 12:38:04 <|amethyst> yeah, that's within reason then, but it shouldn't go over 11 with no spell skills 12:38:12 <|amethyst> base 9 plus two fuzz 12:39:01 <|amethyst> well, it could go over 11 briefly if that makes a too-high dex go closer to its target 12:39:31 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:39:56 and if he trains dodging, jiyva will increase dex? 12:39:59 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:44:18 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:45:00 <|amethyst> yes, the 5 points left over after meeting the floor of (23, 9, 9) are divided between str and dex (if there are no magic skills) 12:45:26 <|amethyst> strength weight is evp * 10, dex weight is 10 + dodging * 10 12:45:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:45:41 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:01 <|amethyst> so, in the same armour, at 22 dodging those extra points will be divided evenly (and then fuzzing still happens) 12:47:10 <|amethyst> so at 27 dodging at the same stat total as currently, that would push the target to 25 9 12 12:48:00 <|amethyst> (so dex would try to stay between 10 and 14) 12:50:48 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:51:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I'd been wondering about Gell's . . . 20:50:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:50:22 . . . even with the buff no one is using it and it does seem less effective than other similar spells. 20:50:55 Crate had the idea to make it work on empty space as well as on monsters . . . that seems like a very cool idea! 20:51:48 Is that in the works at all, or, if not, who would be someone possibly interested to take that up? 20:52:27 I think everyone who has tried to use it in an actual game has had that idea 20:52:36 since it is the only place you would ever actually want to cast it 20:52:38 [nods] 20:53:10 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:53:10 I agree -- that IS how you'd want to use it (IMO) 20:53:32 Is Gell's scheduled for removal then, a la Singularity? 20:54:07 Or could this idea be implemented in Gell's ? 20:55:42 -!- Idolo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:57:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:15 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:01 -!- Nylidian has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:14:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 21:14:59 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:16:01 -!- Guest94100 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:24:18 -!- buppy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:24:24 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:40:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:40:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 21:41:55 -!- buppy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:52:24 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:48 -!- joke_LA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:26 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:58 -!- rophy has quit [Client Quit] 22:09:40 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:24:02 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:25:57 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:31:52 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 22:51:28 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:52:04 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 22:58:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:07 -!- advil has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:05:05 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:09:10 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:18:18 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:43 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:23:51 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24:17 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 23:24:56 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:25:40 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:16 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:17 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:12 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:45:50 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:45:57 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:55:31 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56:04 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:59:51 -!- daagar__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]