00:08:28 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09:28 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 00:12:43 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:44 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:18:44 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:21:29 <_miek> man trawling through the crawl code when you're not familiar with it is a nightmare 00:21:35 <_miek> (I suppose that's true of any code really) 00:22:42 <_miek> anyone have any idea how !lg entries are emitted by the core game? I've found !lm via mark_milestone in hiscores.cc 00:23:47 -!- PsyMar has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:24:02 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar 00:25:09 !source logfile_new_entry 00:25:09 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/hiscores.cc#l181 00:25:34 (trawling through the crawl code is a nightmare when you are familiar with it too) 00:26:49 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:28:47 !source scorefile_entry::set_score_fields 00:28:47 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/hiscores.cc#l1140 00:29:00 (that's the code that actually populates the fields themselves 00:29:02 ) 00:30:58 <_miek> thank you 00:31:22 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:33:21 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:38:21 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:39:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:06 <_miek> think I have a patch for: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9733 00:43:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:43:47 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:45:32 -!- DemiFiend has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:50:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:51:46 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:53:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:57:23 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:57:24 if you generate that patch via `git format-patch -1`, it'll include your attribution information as well 00:58:41 _miek: ^^ 01:02:12 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1570-g74b7129 (34) 01:02:27 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 39.0/20150630154324]] 01:11:34 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:11:58 <_miek> dunno if I have that setup lol 01:12:24 <_miek> oh I have to make a commit first 01:14:03 <_miek> thanks doy 01:14:50 -!- aarujn has quit [Quit: aarujn] 01:20:13 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:22:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:28:28 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:32:53 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:35:26 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 39.0/20150630154324]] 01:39:50 -!- melenkuri has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:51 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:41:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42:38 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:16 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:00:07 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:00:21 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 02:00:40 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:09:09 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:14:48 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 11:26:22 !crashlog 11:26:22 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:26:23 11447. DeepRed, XL1 MiFi, T:0 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/DeepRed/crash-DeepRed-20150723-151435.txt 11:26:25 !messages 11:26:25 (1/1) minqmay said (12h 25m 28s ago): ??goodforum 11:27:52 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:29:30 ??goodforum[2 11:29:30 goodforum[2/2]: Has anyone else noticed ice beasts doing less damage than normal in the latest trunk? Seriously, they can hardly hurt high-AC enemies anymore. Summon Ice Beast is now near-useless as an anti-hydra and anti-bee weapon now, and it's easily outperformed by CCF. 11:29:49 that reminds me, maybe wheals messages when first revealing meleebug should be under gooddev 11:29:54 ??baddev 11:29:54 I don't have a page labeled baddev in my learndb. 11:32:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:34:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34:40 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:40 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Changing host] 11:34:40 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:24 -!- ZanniqlcKzxkq is now known as Zannick 11:44:24 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:44:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:49:47 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:44 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:00:31 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:02:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:04:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined 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260 seconds] 15:51:05 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1571-g3ed2ab2: Tweak a shadow imp-using food vault 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ed2ab215a19 15:54:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:29 SA is (of course) complaining about crown removal 16:01:42 -!- Prozacelf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:05 Lightli: crown removal? 16:02:19 eternal torment got removed 16:02:49 ??crown of Dyrovepreva 16:02:49 crown of dyrovepreva[1/1]: +3 unrandart hat {rElec Int+2 SInv}. A large crown of dull bronze, set with a dazzling array of gemstones. 16:03:14 oh 16:03:37 eternal torment wasn't that good anyway 16:03:40 was it? 16:04:34 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:04:44 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:07:00 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:11 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20:56 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:21:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:23:18 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:28:33 -!- DDFig has quit [Client Quit] 16:31:50 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:25 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:39:37 -!- Tpain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:44:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:48:00 So I have a problem getting 0.16 tiles to run on my android phone. It seems to not load SDL when starting up and the interface is all screwy and crashes. 16:48:10 idk what to do :< 16:50:10 !comborobin 16:50:12 comborobin progress: 149/615 (24%) 16:50:55 Varren: We don't exactly have anyone actively maintaining the Android port; Grunt did a big batch of recent dev effort, but he doesn't have much time to work on it at present 16:51:32 Varren: what you can do is make a bug report with the details of your system so we at least have a record of what kinds of systems it runs on 16:51:35 ??mantis 16:51:36 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 16:51:56 I already did: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9539 16:52:08 A while back. 16:52:55 0.15.1 runs just fine. 16:54:30 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:37 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 16:55:38 Varren: if you can set up a build environment, you can try building trunk 16:55:45 I'm not sure much has changed though 16:55:58 You mean 0.17+? Already tried it and got the same result as 0.16. 16:56:05 we've fixed some SDL bugs, but I doubt they're realted to your problem 16:56:08 Not sure what you mean by a build environment though. 16:56:25 meaning build trunk for android 16:56:32 Like from here? http://crawl.newtzie.com/ 16:56:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:56:39 Because that's where I got the version I tried. 16:56:45 oh, right 16:56:54 forgot about that (even though I help him set up a link) 16:57:12 ??android 16:57:12 android[1/1]: Official (tiles) available: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads, unofficial tiles (trunk): http://crawl.newtzie.com/ , unofficial console (0.16.1) available: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.crawlmb&hl=en 16:57:25 there is a console build you can use, fwiw 16:57:43 Yeah, unfortunately I'm too spoiled by the tiles interface >_> 16:58:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:58:23 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:59:24 Anyway, I just figured I'd come here to see if anything else could be done. Shot in the dark, but I was really looking forward to trying 0.16. 17:01:38 Also, the android version of webtiles is incompatible with my phone. Just to add insult to injury. 17:07:24 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:08:44 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:31 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:26:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:27:59 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:30:05 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:32:49 |amethyst: hrm, I'm getting an all-white screen when I start a new game on cszo via ssh 17:33:47 seems my game is starting when I hit tab, and I could escape out to the menu previously 17:33:52 -!- inre has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:59 wonder if a system update did this 17:34:10 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:34:32 yeah, using gnome-terminal instead of xterm and it's fine 17:35:11 oh I might know the problem 17:37:56 yeah, my Xresources weren't merged in 17:38:33 -!- Varren has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:38:44 need to read up about how they get merged though, since it seems that they were all active; the only odd thing is last line didn't have a newline 17:40:24 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:42:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:54:32 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:58:44 -!- aarujn has quit [Quit: aarujn] 17:59:50 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:07 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1571-g3ed2ab2 (34) 18:02:14 -!- chance672 has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 18:09:13 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:10:50 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:12 -!- Molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:17:06 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:24:45 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:28:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:30:39 !lg * recent won urune=0 s=name,src 18:30:40 2 games for * (recent won urune=0): Espinaca (cpo), dontdoit (cpo) 18:30:59 |amethyst: those games had runes, but I guess the log entry is messed up, or sequell has corrupted data? 18:33:24 -!- zero_one has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34:33 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:37:38 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 18:37:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:39:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:40:22 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:46:35 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:46:35 -!- BOTBrad_ is now known as BOTBrad 18:49:34 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:51:48 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:52:34 -!- WalrusKing has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:56:47 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:00:59 question 19:01:12 if monster animate dead is being phased out, why is monster twisted resurrection still a thing 19:02:39 actually, if you can point out a rationale behind making all the necro based undead skills weaker for both monsters and players, i'd like to read it. 19:03:03 i don't need you guys to come defend it or anything, but if there's a document i've been wondering 19:03:27 I think their rationale for it can be summed up as "permanent allies bad" 19:03:59 well, yred and beogh are really going to suck if that gets carried out to its ultimate conclusion 19:04:04 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:04:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:04:52 I don't know whether the recent nerfs effected yred reanimate, but I do know neither yred gift pets or beogh orcs are in any danger 19:05:06 it did not 19:05:11 yred's zombies are still permanent 19:05:12 well, i won with yred 2 days ago and it was fine 19:05:17 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:06:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:08:31 GauBot (L21 DDGl) (Depths:5) 19:10:47 !crashlog 19:10:47 11449. GauBot, XL21 DDGl, T:42679 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/GauBot/crash-GauBot-20150723-230830.txt 19:14:58 -!- BOTBrad_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 19:17:01 -!- coined_ring has quit [Client Quit] 19:17:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:19:41 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:38 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 19:23:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:28:22 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:30:44 -!- Chance672 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:31:04 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:02 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:33:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:34:55 -!- zauren has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:38:35 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:39:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:44:12 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 19:44:52 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 19:45:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:48:27 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:32 -!- Cin316 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:01:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:18 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:04:02 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:04:33 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:58 -!- Crehl__ has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:07:08 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:07:49 Avigdore (L27 HEWz) (Coc:7) 20:09:53 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:11:03 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11:51 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:12:43 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:17:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:54 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:23:36 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:26:55 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27:10 <|amethyst> Lightli: I asked MarvinPA the same thing, and he was of the opinion that aboms in Elf were actually threatening 20:27:22 -!- Cacophony has quit [Changing host] 20:27:58 <|amethyst> Lightli: but that crawling corpses probably need an upgrade (speed for example) so that there's a better chance of them actually forming aboms 20:28:02 !lm * decj cpo 20:28:03 1818. [2015-07-23 23:55:35] vickdagina the Conjurer (L1 DECj) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 20:28:10 points for originality 20:28:12 speaking of elf, why is it that only one of the endings has crystal guardians (who as they stand are significantly more dangerous than basically everything else in the vault because of their high AC and many resistances) 20:29:18 -!- joke_LA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:29:51 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:53 (the implication is they should be in every ending, since they don't fall over and die to aoe spells like everything else) 20:31:24 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:35:29 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:35:31 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:38:47 <_miek> so I've been working on this bug https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9733 20:39:01 <_miek> and think I have the fix (after failing before) 20:39:08 <_miek> but I'm not actually sure how to test it without setting up a web server 20:41:03 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:42:00 yeah aboms are pretty nasty when they're made by monster twisted res 20:42:21 !lg * recent br=elf killer~~abom 20:42:22 37. Valyn the Basher (L13 DsBe of Trog), slain by a large abomination (created by a deep elf high priest) on Elf:1 on 2015-07-21 00:12:49, with 27667 points after 17380 turns and 1:07:58. 20:42:33 !lg * recent br=elf killer~~abom s=ikiller 20:42:34 37 games for * (recent br=elf killer~~abom): 24x a deep elf priest, 5x a deep elf high priest, 5x a deep elf death mage, 3x a large abomination 20:42:50 !lg * recent br=elf s=ikiller 20:42:51 4001 games for * (recent br=elf): 493x a deep elf annihilator, 423x a deep elf demonologist, 410x a deep elf master archer, 331x a deep elf knight, 305x a deep elf sorcerer, 247x a deep elf blademaster, 199x a deep elf high priest, 191x a deep elf conjurer, 118x a deep elf summoner, 115x a deep elf priest, 93x a deep elf death mage, 86x a crystal guardian, 66x, 50x a deep elf mage, 49x Nikola, 27x... 20:43:21 !lg * recent br=elf killer~~abom s=place 20:43:22 37 games for * (recent br=elf killer~~abom): 21x Elf:1, 8x Elf:3, 8x Elf:2 20:43:34 !lg * recent br=elf lvl<3 s=ikiller 20:43:34 1737 games for * (recent br=elf lvl<3): 307x a deep elf knight, 170x a deep elf conjurer, 107x a deep elf summoner, 94x a deep elf priest, 75x a deep elf demonologist, 53x a deep elf blademaster, 47x a deep elf high priest, 46x a deep elf annihilator, 43x a deep elf mage, 43x Nikola, 33x a deep elf sorcerer, 32x, 23x Aizul, 22x Agnes, 22x Asterion, 16x a deep elf fighter, 15x a deep elf death mage... 20:43:52 nearly a third of all deep elf priests kills 20:44:13 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:06 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:45 <|amethyst> !lg * recent br=elf killer~~abom s=ikiller 20:48:46 37 games for * (recent br=elf killer~~abom): 24x a deep elf priest, 5x a deep elf high priest, 5x a deep elf death mage, 3x a large abomination 20:52:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 20:55:36 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:32 I'd like to point out how high crystal guardians are on the list in spite of only spawning in one ending 20:59:26 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:02:05 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:03:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:15 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:10:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:14 -!- twofortypee has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:16:23 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:17:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:24 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:17:28 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:30 -!- rast- is now known as rast 21:17:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:18:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:18:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:20:53 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:24:57 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 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Merfolk, 28455x Mummy, 26069x Ogre, 24121x Tengu, 24039x Human, 23663x Vampire, 23426x Naga, 17945x Demigod, 17896x Kobold, 15914x Felid, 15420x Dee... 21:49:10 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:52:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:57:25 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:58:59 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:07 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 22:03:18 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:22 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 22:05:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:05:07 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:06:44 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:07:48 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:11:14 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:14:44 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:16:10 -!- 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error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:47 -!- aarujn has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:16 Hi! :) I had a question / idea . . . 22:52:57 RE: How to limit stair-dancing, without leading to more "helpless kills" . . . why not make the stairs penalty increment with each use of a particular stair within LoS of monsters? 22:53:37 (i.e. they start to figure it out. . . "Y'know he'll probably be back down this stair AGAIN, so let's be ready" 22:54:00 and so each use of the same stairs gets you into more trouble) 22:54:40 Correspondingly, the penalty can be small (or even zero) to start with, eliminating those "Walk downstairs to Lvl 2 and instantly helplessly die" games 22:54:45 (which are annoying) 22:54:51 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:56 (and don't really test your skill in any way) 22:55:16 that would have been "lovely" on the orc:4 I had yesterday 22:55:37 (azrael at one stair, rupert at another, an orc knight and a couple of high priests at the third) 22:56:24 yeah I'm now working through a game with Menkaure, Sigmund, 2 ghosts, and Grinder all locking it down 22:56:33 but that may be besides the point 22:56:55 "The Point" : Stair-dancing is boring, bad, painful and maybe needs help 22:57:22 "The Other Point" : Insta-death on Lvl 2 is sad 22:57:53 Why not try to make things better? 22:58:17 !lm geekosaur 22:58:17 1337. [2015-02-03 20:41:41] Duph the Cudgeler (L5 GrFi) killed the ghost of Dharmy the Ruffian, an average OgTm on turn 2218. (D:3) 22:58:29 not playing online until I get a less crappy network 22:58:47 ah :) 22:58:49 let's just say I hide behind a znc for very good reason 22:59:05 lag is terrible, complete drops are common 22:59:48 ouch 22:59:58 yeah, I'm in a bit of the same boat. :( 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:08 My solution was to play webtiles and try to help new folks 23:00:31 (webtiles being slow, conversations being distractions-from-how-laggy-things-are) 23:01:12 Realtime speedrunning being, ahem, pretty out of the question. 23:01:19 But yeah, stairs. 23:01:46 (Seems they could be better) 23:02:34 Also I have put in the time to do the homework if anyone wants to know how the "newEly" aspects are being received 23:02:42 but part of my point is that multiple-stair dancing is more my thing 23:03:07 which is GOOD 23:03:21 and should be encouraged (IMO) 23:03:22 not really, it's like normal stairdancing only even slower 23:03:28 and more boring 23:03:34 but you're thinking 23:03:42 unlike the one-stair mindlessness 23:03:47 (V5 etc) 23:04:02 you at least have to think "ok which of these 3 options is best" 23:04:29 So, I'm not saying "your thing" is bad (at all) ! 23:04:35 (rather the contrary) 23:05:04 Strategic Choice == good 23:05:07 (IMO) 23:06:56 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:09:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:10:36 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:18:08 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:18:50 @??ghost_moth 23:18:50 ghost moth (06y) | Spd: 12 | HD: 13 | HP: 58-88 | AC/EV: 8/10 | Dam: 1802(drain stat), 1802(drain stat), 1204(strong poison:47-84) | fly | Res: 06magic(100), 02cold, 03poison | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 1695 | Sp: draining gaze [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 23:20:38 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:00 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:26 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:28:06 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:28:25 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 23:29:18 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:30:09 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:31:02 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:16 bring back old xom! 23:32:30 xomfusion over-riding clarity i mean 23:33:20 i'm sure he did lots of other stuff i don't remember 23:33:48 weapon swapping etc 23:37:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:38:51 -!- GiantOwl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:39:31 ??4.1[6 23:39:31 4.1[6/7]: Xom's power touches on you for a moment. You feel dopey. You die... 23:40:38 ow 23:45:18 squishfish (L18 GrFi) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3128 failed. (D (Sprint)) 23:47:16 -!- filthy has quit [Quit: please don't look for me] 23:48:16 lol 23:48:44 yeah, i know it's a dumb request 23:48:55 xom just seems almost friendly now 23:51:02 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:13 -!- File200 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:31 'sup 23:59:08 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1572-g7a1422d (34)