00:00:06 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:07:23 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:02 Stable (0.16) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16.1-51-g6203257 00:14:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:23:15 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:56 |amethyst: you mean how various things do aut arithmetic with you.time_taken? 00:29:06 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:29:13 without there being some nice methods for that or something 00:29:14 <|amethyst> and how both exist 00:29:23 oh I guess so, yeah 00:29:47 since you make keep calculating with time_taken when turn_is_over is already true or something 00:29:55 s/make/might/ 00:30:34 -!- beaupreandre has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:31:27 <|amethyst> and I guess more generally that you have things setting the two, then other things cancelling that by resetting them, etc 00:31:31 -!- Dharmy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:31:32 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:30 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:33:35 <|amethyst> I guess my ideal interface would be something like you.take_time(aut) and assert if you ever do that twice from a single iteration of _input 00:34:07 <|amethyst> but I'm not sure where scaling would be done 00:35:09 <|amethyst> probably the argument would include all scaling except haste/slow 00:35:54 <|amethyst> so that you don't have to multiply/divide every time you call it, only when finesse etc are involved 00:37:37 -!- Krakhan|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:40:43 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:42:39 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:45:57 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:46:07 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:13 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:19 -!- ManipulativeOrg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:52:50 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:33 -!- dustinm` has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:55:34 -!- djinni has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:02:04 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:02:46 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:32 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:37 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16.1-51-g6203257 01:06:34 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:45 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1475-g9f81d98 (34) 01:07:36 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:02 -!- AlphaQ_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:14:11 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16.1-51-g6203257 (34) 01:22:53 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:28:36 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:30:28 -!- archaeo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:33:39 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:35:19 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Is the file safe/is there a better place to get the update? 10:19:04 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:21:11 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:33 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:28:54 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:40:28 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:42:35 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:48 -!- Stornor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:46:18 -!- chance672 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:33 Whats the api for @?? 10:46:53 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:47:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:00:54 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:28 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 11:02:12 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:04:19 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:55 -!- Tpain is now known as zhaorenw 11:05:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:08:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(master - b6bbdc3 #2914 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/69293320 11:13:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:19:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:24:29 afaik all there is is 11:24:31 ??monster 11:24:32 monsters[1/4]: The most up-to-date code for @?? can be found at https://github.com/crawl/monster/ : branch 'master' for trunk, 'dcss016' for 0.16, and likewise back to 'dcss09'. 11:26:53 hmmmm, there prob isnt a web api is ther 11:26:57 like there is for learndb 11:39:58 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:41:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:01 nope. and the learndb web api is external anyway (something with a dump of the bot's learndb, that can get out of sync sometimes) 11:43:10 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:43:34 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:44:46 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:18 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:56:39 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:59:19 -!- oky is now known as kra1t 11:59:46 -!- emikaela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:03:03 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:05 ??qda 12:11:05 quicksilver dragon armour[1/2]: 10AC, 7ER, MR+, cannot be enchanted. 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" 13:04:34 awesome 13:04:35 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:05:29 isn't that more evident of him liking fun 13:05:50 Yes, I was just being silly 13:06:10 it will be funny hopefully 13:06:27 shoals terrain should make it harder to cheese the ability by running like with robin 13:07:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:07:41 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:10:34 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:10:34 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 13:10:45 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11:37 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:00 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:09 !gitgrep 2 shard 13:18:09 %git HEAD^{/shard}^^{/shard} 13:18:09 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3163-g8885197: Allow variation of fiend types for hell effects 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/888519771557 13:18:12 !gitgrep 3 shard 13:18:13 %git HEAD^{/shard}^^{/shard}^^{/shard} 13:18:13 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3162-g12e38a2: Hand-pick hell effect spawns 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 38+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/12e38a2d5a41 13:18:16 !gitgrep 4 shard 13:18:16 %git HEAD^{/shard}^^{/shard}^^{/shard}^^{/shard} 13:18:16 07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-2756-g09ec9a7: Sprinkle around some shrikes (and other quick vault population tweaks) 10(7 months ago, 6 files, 20+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/09ec9a7b38b8 13:28:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:29:29 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1478-gd585fa0 (34) 13:33:58 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:50 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:42:39 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:49:44 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:53:15 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:39 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:53:55 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:54 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:57:02 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:57:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:01:37 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:02:16 -!- speranza has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 14:02:19 -!- Fusha has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06:29 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:34 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:35 The build failed. 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16:46:40 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:46:44 i'm not on a computer where I can really compile right now (though i'll be getting rid of this piece of junk soon) 16:48:24 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:49:32 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:49:46 -!- anonymous has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:50:48 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:51:05 -!- wHATEver is now known as Guest8929 16:53:41 -!- gressup|sleep is now known as gressup 16:53:56 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:56:06 <|amethyst> let's see 16:56:49 <|amethyst> hm, when did &~ stop asking if you really want to go to an ungenerated branch 16:57:36 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:02:27 <|amethyst> going to use destroy_item(corpse) instead since it was never linked 17:02:59 <|amethyst> though I guess it doesn't really matter: unlink_item can handle such cases 17:06:38 too many of these functions 17:06:59 destroy_item, destroy_item, unlink_item, item_was_destroyed... 17:07:22 <|amethyst> also passing true for the second argument even though that doesn't currently matter for things that aren't unrands 17:08:17 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:08:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1479-g4041c36: Avoid unlinked Gozag gold (wheals, #9834) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4041c365599a 17:09:10 finally, an unlinked item bug we figure out quickly :) 17:10:26 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:09 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:16:06 -!- feamirim has quit [Client Quit] 17:18:41 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:18:55 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:27:20 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:32:02 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:33:41 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:36:15 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 17:38:13 -!- feamirim has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:41:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:44:23 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:45:07 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:45:12 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:47 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:47:53 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:48:04 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:26 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:20 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:48 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:49 The build was fixed. (master - 4041c36 #2916 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/69355316 18:04:50 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:07:03 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:09:25 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1479-g4041c36 (34) 18:13:30 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:14:48 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:58 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:16:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:54 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:11 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:03 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:24 !vault dk_yredelemnul_ordeal 18:24:25 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/yredelemnul_ordeal.des#l31 18:25:28 should this vault, or the area around the altar, be marked no_monster_gen? a player recently noted a player ghost appearing in there - for player ghosts it's almost thematic, but for other monsters it would seem pretty weird to me 18:27:02 <|amethyst> yeah, I'd make -_ no_monster_gen no_item_gen 18:27:03 <|amethyst> but 18:27:11 <|amethyst> you have to change the subst to make that work 18:27:20 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:27:21 <|amethyst> because those are KMASKs, not KPROPs 18:27:28 <|amethyst> and KMASKs apply after all substs 18:27:54 <|amethyst> so you'd need to replace the SUBST: - = . with KFEAT: - = . or similar 18:28:14 <|amethyst> or KFEAT: - = floor might be clearer, so it doesn't look like a subst 18:29:05 |amethyst: you could just make the whole vault no-stuff-gen 18:29:15 which is an approach some of the other unusual altars take 18:29:33 <|amethyst> yeah 18:29:50 <|amethyst> it's a bit of a blunt hammer, but that might be better than a somewhat fragile one :) 18:30:17 <|amethyst> hmm 18:30:30 <|amethyst> also, I think the h should get no_tele_into 18:30:51 no_telefrag_into 18:30:51 |amethyst: i don't think it's possible to teleport into there anyway, right? 18:30:59 not while the door is closed 18:31:15 <|amethyst> shafts/hatches are the problem I was worried about 18:31:46 <|amethyst> because I have seen bug reports before where you shaft into a monster room like that and displace the monster (not sure if it is reset or just teleported) 18:31:48 i don't understand the problem. those things won't place you in there if the human is still alive, right? 18:32:12 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:32:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:33:12 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8808 18:33:25 <|amethyst> oh, err 18:33:40 <|amethyst> I wish people wouldn't link to their dump 18:33:46 <|amethyst> in bug reports 18:34:05 <|amethyst> since it's replaced every time they save 18:34:09 ??telefrag 18:34:11 I don't have a page labeled telefrag in my learndb. 18:34:15 ??mnoleg[frag 18:34:15 mnoleg[2/2]: Sort of telefragged by syllogism once! See !lm syllogism place=pan type=br.enter 3 -tv 18:34:19 <|amethyst> !bug 7927 18:34:19 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7927 18:34:48 !learn add telefrag see {mnoleg[2]} 18:34:49 telefrag[1/1]: see {mnoleg[2]} 18:35:20 |amethyst: time to start trying to reproduce bugs so i can save an ?id 18:35:33 <|amethyst> heh 18:35:42 <|amethyst> I figured that was easier than editing their save 18:35:44 <|amethyst> :) 18:37:03 <|amethyst> unrelated, but I like the filename of the attached screenshot: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7508 18:37:09 <|amethyst> WELP_IM_STUCK.PNG 18:37:34 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:38:58 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:42:01 -!- Tapin has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:42:09 -!- Torax_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:43:03 that is a very tortured vault 18:43:28 oh, i see that the southeast room is connected 18:43:30 still very strange 18:43:34 -!- chance672 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:44:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:38 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:47:28 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:29 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53:48 -!- Xiberia has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:54:01 -!- Xiberia_ is now known as Xiberia 18:56:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:41 -!- WalrusKing has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:14 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:40 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:00:10 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:01 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 19:04:33 -!- Floodkiller has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:51 -!- joke_LA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:09:57 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:10:07 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:16:25 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:26 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:28 -!- Syndicus_ is now known as Syndicus 19:19:52 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:21:17 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22:07 -!- advil has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23:08 -!- twofortypee has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:39:25 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:40:13 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:41:25 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:25 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Changing host] 19:41:25 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:30 Unstable branch on crawl.buzz updated to: 0.17-a0-1479-g4041c36 (34) 19:47:26 -!- Floodkiller_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:47:55 -!- chance672_ has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 19:51:35 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:51:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:52:40 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:02:41 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:08 -!- coledot has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:27 currently getting a error trying to compile on the crash.o file, any help? http://pastebin.com/T7HG9Tnr 20:08:40 <|amethyst> what OS? 20:08:48 windows, using cygwin64 20:14:26 <|amethyst> Floodkiller: does it help to add #define _POSIX_SOURCE in AppHdr.h just before the #include "platform.h" ? 20:17:04 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:17:27 trying it now 20:19:01 <|amethyst> (ISTR reading somewhere that __STRICT_ANSI__ overrides _POSIX_SOURCE on cygwin but am not sure) 20:19:32 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:20:24 nope, same error 20:21:03 <|amethyst> ugh 20:22:14 <|amethyst> okay, remove that line you just added, and edit the makefile 20:22:18 <|amethyst> Makefile rather 20:24:24 <|amethyst> find the CYGWIN in there, and inside that block (before the endif) add a line CFLAGS_L += -U__STRICT_ANSI__ (note the two double underscores) 20:25:56 the ifneq(,$(findstring CYGWIN..., or the comment relating to a CYGWIN panic attack? 20:26:25 <|amethyst> the ifneq(...) 20:26:34 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:27:06 running it now 20:28:49 darn, same error again 20:28:56 <|amethyst> hm 20:29:33 difference of one where the line is located that caused the crash (1570 instead of 1569), probably because of the added line 20:30:27 -!- omniscient has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:38 <|amethyst> hmm 20:33:01 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:35:06 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:12 <|amethyst> trying to think of other things to try 20:35:45 <|amethyst> I really would rather not use -std=gnu++11 rather than c++11 as the cygwin folks suggest 20:35:48 <|amethyst> hmm 20:36:36 <|amethyst> Floodkiller: what if you keep the Makefile change, and also change the #include in crash.h to #include ? 20:36:41 <|amethyst> probably it won't make a difference 20:40:23 no good 20:42:56 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:42:57 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 20:43:19 <|amethyst> can you pastebin your modified makefile, just to verify 20:44:53 http://pastebin.com/ECSatNma 20:46:08 -!- Amnekian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46:11 <|amethyst> yeah, looks fine 20:48:59 <|amethyst> okay, a fix that really ought to work, but I don't want to apply this in the main archive 20:49:31 <|amethyst> revert to the original sources, and in Makefile change all the -std=c++11 to -std=gnu++11 20:51:32 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:53:35 that appears to have fixed it, it's going past crash.o now 20:53:47 thanks for the help! 20:53:50 <|amethyst> hm 20:53:57 <|amethyst> I guess we could make it conditional on cygwin 20:54:28 uh oh, it broke with something else now :( 20:54:38 <|amethyst> oh? 20:55:03 on describe.o, putting it in pastebin now 20:55:49 http://pastebin.com/RAkVTBJK 20:57:21 <|amethyst> what does g++ --version say? 20:57:47 g++ (GCC) 4.9.2 20:58:07 <|amethyst> ugh 20:58:10 <|amethyst> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/150485 20:59:43 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:08 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 21:01:05 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:02:09 <|amethyst> I guess we don't support cygwin at the moment 21:02:28 <|amethyst> I guess we could implement our own version of to_string without long double support 21:02:40 dang, cygwin was the only one I managed to even get to the compile step today 21:04:28 <|amethyst> hm... I guess we would need a test compile to see whether std::to_string exists 21:04:43 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:50 <|amethyst> or maybe it could be made to work with some template metaprogramming 21:05:14 <|amethyst> (making it SFINAE away when std::to_string exists or something) 21:08:41 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:41 -!- Utrick has quit [Client Quit] 21:08:56 -!- crate has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:08:57 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 21:10:50 Floodkiller: only half-joking here - have you tried installing a linux VM? it's super easy to do these days, and then inside it dev tools Just Work 21:11:06 <|amethyst> but then you have to run crawl inside the VM 21:11:23 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:43 <|amethyst> or cross-compile I guess 21:11:52 i don't find that to be a big problem, but if that is a show-stopper for you then a vm is the wrong answer 21:14:07 <|amethyst> let's see 21:14:48 amalloy: I haven't tried that, no. Honestly, if it comes to needing to install a Linux VM, I 21:15:03 I'd probably just hold off on messing with crawl code 21:17:29 I'm already frustrated spending most of today just trying to get it to compile through these Windows options, where MSVC is refusing to recognize Perl on my computer, and MinGW's GCC update is throwing millions of red flags at my anti-virus 21:17:56 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:17:59 DrKe: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArVXhHzhWWb7dGpPX3NLRXhscTU2VTVkUllrSGxHb1E&usp=sharing 21:18:10 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:18:13 DrKe: You can edit that, particularly the second sheet (updated) 21:18:28 to change the disto you have to copy a line with the one you want and override 21:18:29 -!- Guest49820 is now known as SwissStopwatch 21:19:01 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:02 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19:24 I was wondering if it's too good at 0 evo, but I guess it only makes 2 spiders on average then 21:20:26 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:21:18 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:21:58 oh, it'd be nice to see the average number generated of each, since this is by evo 21:23:24 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:40 tapin (L15 MiGl) ASSERT(item.base_type == OBJ_CORPSES) in 'butcher.cc' at line 348 failed. (Swamp:3) 21:24:50 <|amethyst> !crashlog tapin 21:24:50 2. tapin, XL15 MiGl, T:21434 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tapin/crash-tapin-20150703-012439.txt 21:25:56 <|amethyst> !tell wheals has !crashlog tapin 2 something to do with "Simplify corpse-creation code" ? 21:25:56 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 21:26:29 -!- Floodkiller_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:28:10 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:28:47 -!- Chance672 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:30:09 <|amethyst> Floodkiller_: still here? do you know how to apply patches? 21:30:51 still here, and no but I'm willing to learn 21:31:00 <|amethyst> you used git to check out the source? 21:31:42 yes 21:31:45 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:31:55 <|amethyst> and you're on the master brance? 21:31:57 <|amethyst> branch 21:32:33 I would assume if that's the default 21:32:43 Floodkiller_: you probably are, but can double-check with `git status` 21:32:57 yes 21:34:08 <|amethyst> First, revert all your changes: git reset --hard origin/master 21:34:19 <|amethyst> then get http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/0001-Maybe-fix-cygwin-support.patch 21:34:29 <|amethyst> and apply it with git am 0001-Maybe-fix-cygwin-support.patch 21:35:19 <|amethyst> oh 21:35:24 <|amethyst> sec, let me fix something 21:36:43 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:27 <|amethyst> okay, if you already downloaded it, do so again 21:38:06 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:38:07 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:38:13 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:38:22 <|amethyst> (and if you applied the first version, git reset --hard origin/master once more) 21:39:35 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:39:37 <|amethyst> oh 21:39:41 <|amethyst> I see another problem with it 21:39:59 I just drop the patch in the source folder before applying with that git command, right? 21:40:05 <|amethyst> yeah, but wait 21:49:03 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:50:31 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:02 |amethyst: i think what's happening is that it's trying to turn a stack of gold into a skeleton 21:51:29 i checked most of these cases but not under gozag :( 21:51:30 let it 21:51:32 gold skeleton 21:52:20 gold skeletons to guard the gold in tomb 21:52:51 how about gold masons to remove the gold entrance to gold tomb 21:52:53 necro/tmut. raise skeletons... but they're gold 21:52:55 ah; goldify in place_monster_corpse should have && !force 21:53:00 iron skeletons 21:53:14 as the doxygen incorrectly claims it does 21:53:19 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:53:35 i'll take a look at it gfunk 21:53:35 FR: a program that autogenerates code based on the doxygen 21:53:40 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:44 out-of-date comments solved forever... 21:55:33 also PF would be gratified if someone constified that bool 21:56:14 <|amethyst> Floodkiller_: sorry about the delay 21:56:17 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:20 <|amethyst> Floodkiller_: here you go: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/0001-Maybe-fix-cygwin-support-for-real.patch 21:56:28 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:34 that's alright, you're the one taking the time to help 21:56:46 <|amethyst> Floodkiller_: you can drop it in the source directory, or when you run git am you can give a full path to the patch 21:58:09 DrKe: I made that copy to mess around 21:58:22 gammafunk: it looks like it should be about the same at evo 0 as it was before, which is probably ok 21:58:22 DrKe: the updated one might be the one you want to tweak 21:58:38 k 21:59:02 it is possible to get 3 spiders at evo 0, though 21:59:10 since its 1 + random2(3) 21:59:22 the crash should be easy to reproduce, just &%yak skeleton when worshipping gozag will AFAICT 21:59:25 -!- ohyou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:51 yeah, it's equal chance of 1, 2, 3 21:59:53 that could be changed to random2(2) with better scaling if you want to nerf it at evo 0 22:00:00 that might be better than changing the cockroach and scorpion weights 22:00:08 alright, applied and running it now 22:00:26 yeah, the only problem is that the number scales really slow 22:00:35 int count = 1 + random2(3) 22:00:36 + random2(div_rand_round(you.skill(SK_EVOCATIONS, 10), 40)); 22:00:58 <|amethyst> err 22:01:10 <|amethyst> that scaling looks weird 22:01:13 yeah 22:01:34 <|amethyst> I mean 22:01:39 plugging that into random2 is not the best way to do it, I'm sure 22:01:42 <|amethyst> not the behaviour 22:01:53 <|amethyst> ohh 22:02:31 last component doesn't get an average of one until 12 evo 22:02:48 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 22:02:49 alright, it made it past describe.o, here's hoping nothing else comes up 22:03:28 can't it just be div_rand_round instead of random2(div_rand_round 22:03:50 cause i do have trouble mathing that 22:04:03 12 evo would be a good point of reference though 22:04:36 well if you do that, there's not nearly so much variance in the number, which is probably bad 22:05:23 evokers have less variance in the summons they make, I think, but they make fewer of them and are one-shot 22:05:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:06:04 so what if you did 1 + random2(2) + random2(div_rand_round(you.skill(SK_EVOCATIONS, 10), 20)); 22:06:18 would that be the same as current behavior at evo 12 but worse below and better above 22:06:48 i was thinking 30 but i didn't pay attention to the second random2 22:07:39 <|amethyst> ? at evo 12 the first is 1 + random2(3) + random2(3) and the second is 1 + random2(2) + random2(6) 22:07:42 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:27 so would 30 be the correct figure to do that? 22:08:29 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:08:45 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:09:07 <|amethyst> the would be 1 + random2(2) + random2(4) which at least has the same range but isn't the same distribution 22:09:50 <|amethyst> 1 + random2(3) + random2(3) has a 1/9 chance of giving you 1 (and a 1/9 chance of the max 5) 22:10:06 <|amethyst> 1 + random2(2) + random2(4) has a 1/8 chance of 1 and of 5 22:10:43 ok, yeah 22:11:17 i would be in favor of that rather than tweaking the gs and scorpion pop 22:12:00 s/gs/gc 22:12:25 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:14:16 -!- wheals has left ##crawl-dev 22:15:17 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:16:40 hrm, at 27 evo we increase the average number of spiders to 6.5 from 5.875 22:16:44 i might want to raise the weights of the higher tier spiders a bit also 22:17:01 so that at 15 evo, the proportion of trapdoor/redback vs the 4 higher tier ones is 50:50 22:17:02 with the 40->30 denominator change 22:17:37 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 22:18:25 that seems reasonable to me 22:19:52 make me wonder if the thing shouldn't just have a summon cap 22:20:30 does BoB have one? 22:20:36 no, neither do 22:20:38 only spells do 22:21:03 but obviously BoB could have one as well 22:22:00 something like 7 for the sack and maybe 3 for the box, to throw out numbers 22:22:51 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:45 and I'm assuing that BoB makes crazy things at 27 evo 22:24:19 it seems quite good to me 22:24:20 bob that is 22:25:11 so should i add the denom change to my branch? 22:25:46 or do you want to mull it over some more 22:26:42 well that change does seem ok, the cap thing is kind of just seperate 22:26:53 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:27:01 yeah i gathered that much 22:27:14 amethyst: looks like it finished! thanks for the help! 22:35:15 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:26 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:38:18 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/74 * 0.17-a0-1411-g8c80a12: Tweak Sack of Spiders further 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8c80a12e4f79 22:41:02 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:38 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:42:56 btw thanks for the spreadsheet 22:43:47 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:45:46 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:33 -!- Cham has quit [] 22:48:42 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:49:57 <|amethyst> Floodkiller_: woot! 22:52:06 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:16 -!- Utrick has left ##crawl-dev 23:02:04 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:20 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:11 -!- brad___ is now known as BOTBrad_ 23:13:32 gonna make it print the average number of spiders by type with that level of evo 23:14:01 would be nice to make these for all the pop_ entries automaticall 23:14:03 y 23:16:59 <|amethyst> Removed the link to the dcss subreddit from the front page 23:17:12 <|amethyst> since the dcss subreddit is private now 23:17:27 oh really? 23:17:33 <|amethyst> err, from wordpress, not the front page 23:17:56 <|amethyst> yeah, I guess they decided to join the "we hate the admins" bandwagon 23:20:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:29 -!- Gorgo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:23:40 -!- Gorgo_ is now known as Gorgo 23:27:18 why was it made private 23:30:43 <|amethyst> https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/ 23:31:37 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:34:39 -!- phalm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:35:31 omg 23:36:19 heh 23:37:15 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:37:50 i should convince all server admins to disable trunk until our demands are met by the dev team 23:38:05 demands include: full merge of pizza tornado branch into mainline 23:38:32 unions are god 23:39:56 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:43:53 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:59:10 -!- scwizard has joined ##crawl-dev