00:00:48 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:01:17 |amethyst: Is the MySQL using InnoDB? 00:01:35 seems so? 00:02:20 I'd assume so with a recent MySQL 00:02:26 But I know in the past it was on MyISAM 00:03:27 Hmm I wonder if I still have cao access 00:03:52 Oh apparently I do 00:04:34 <|amethyst> yeah, it's innodb 00:06:26 <|amethyst> hmm... 00:07:05 <|amethyst> greensnark: just realised that when I made it not autocommit, I made it commit every 3000 lines 00:07:38 Yeah, it's probably holding the transaction open waiting for the 3000 00:07:52 <|amethyst> which explains missing games too 00:08:02 Don't quite understand the missing games bit though 00:08:09 How does it explain missing games? 00:08:16 <|amethyst> hm 00:08:27 <|amethyst> I guess not 00:08:47 <|amethyst> I was thinking a reboot with consumer drives that don't really flush 00:09:26 <|amethyst> hmm 00:09:29 <|amethyst> though 00:09:47 <|amethyst> I don't remember when it updates the offsets 00:09:59 <|amethyst> probably once per batch and not once per line? 00:10:06 Once per line I think 00:10:22 <|amethyst> ah, then rollback should still not lose lines 00:10:48 huh 00:11:06 Where is the latest code? 00:11:35 <|amethyst> greensnark: /home/rax/scoring 00:11:42 Ah 00:12:34 |amethyst: May I rewrite those root commits as you and push to github? 00:13:01 I'll leave ~rax/scoring unchanged 00:16:41 <|amethyst> sure, but 00:16:44 Oh right you already have this up on your fork 00:16:47 My confusion 00:16:48 <|amethyst> feel free not to leave it unchanged 00:16:53 <|amethyst> oh, I do? 00:17:04 <|amethyst> then it's missing a commit 00:17:31 I'm going to nuke greensnark/dcss_scoring, it just wasted me 15 minutes 00:18:04 <|amethyst> sure, let me push this 00:18:20 <|amethyst> oh, several commits 00:18:26 <|amethyst> when was the last time I pushed? :) 00:20:15 <|amethyst> okay, https://github.com/neilmoore/dcss_scoring is up-to-date 00:20:32 <|amethyst> when you're done with this, stick it in the crawl repo 00:20:38 <|amethyst> and I'll delete my fork too 00:20:52 <|amethyst> err, the crawl project, not repo :) 00:21:43 <|amethyst> and do feel free to rewrite those commit authors :) 00:21:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-1469-g9f39193: Improve hydra form invis interactions (minmay) 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f39193c5eed 00:23:52 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:24:59 -!- doy has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:26:05 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:08 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:18 <|amethyst> // Don't pester the player if they're using UC or if they don't have any 00:26:22 <|amethyst> // melee weapons yet. 00:26:43 <|amethyst> should you also be spared if you're in a form with 0 UC? 00:26:59 <|amethyst> or should you get the prompt in case you don't notice someone turned you into a bat 00:27:18 <|amethyst> this is in wielded_weapon_check 00:27:35 <|amethyst> the "no weapon" part 00:27:40 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1468-gbf503c2 (34) 00:29:35 -!- gressup is now known as gressup|sleep 00:30:05 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30:11 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: Buy...] 00:30:12 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:31:47 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:19 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:38:30 -!- brad2 is now known as BOTBrad 00:39:32 Oh perfect, I forgot to rewrite committer... 00:39:52 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:42:17 * greensnark loves force pushing to public branches 00:42:32 |amethyst: https://github.com/crawl/scoring 00:43:22 Prolly should replace wget with curl for better error handling 00:43:26 but laters 00:45:10 -!- Utrick has left ##crawl-dev 00:47:00 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 00:47:49 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:50:57 <|amethyst> greensnark: thanks, updated the copy on CAO to that repo 00:52:01 <|amethyst> greensnark: deleting my dcss_scoring repo now 00:55:04 -!- domiryuu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:43 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I was recently playing DCSS Tiles 16.1 on OSX and encountered a problematic level generation bug on Spider:5 http://i.imgur.com/lw3svaT.png 03:38:46 what is the problem in that picture, blrp? 03:39:14 see the top left of the mini map 03:39:44 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:40:49 seems like there is a bug in the algorith as it carved out an entire piece of the level that it shouldn't have 03:41:49 maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that what the level looks like is what was intended 03:42:28 -!- schistosoma has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:42:30 -!- schisto is now known as schistosoma 03:42:38 are you sure the level actually looks that way? have you explored into that area? it seems strange either way, but it could be a problem with the map display rather than level gen 03:43:23 -!- GauHelldragon3 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:44:04 yes, i did explore it 03:44:19 the mini map is accurate 03:47:52 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:53:05 is the seed located in the morgue file somewhere? maybe I could recreate the bug 03:55:14 interesting bug 03:55:50 there is some init.txt command to include the maps used for generating each level, but I don't know what it is off the top of my head 03:56:10 if you can figure out what it is, then dump and file a bug with the image and dump, that'd probably help a lot 03:56:30 was that area empty btw? 03:56:38 it contained items and monsters 03:56:47 hm 03:59:33 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:00:32 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:01:09 -!- BOTBrad_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:02:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:10:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10:28 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 04:14:23 -!- blrp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:20:02 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:25:09 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:30:54 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:26 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:45:20 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:47:24 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 05:01:17 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:07:11 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:13:23 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:20:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:21:13 -!- Kramin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:21:24 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:41 -!- Kramin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:21:52 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:23:38 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:26:08 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:26:35 -!- Kramin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:26:45 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:14 -!- copt has quit [] 05:37:37 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:03 -!- BOTBrad_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:52:48 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:05 -!- feamirim has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:57:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:03:18 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:03:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:12:58 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:14:59 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:20:15 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:26:21 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:28:49 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 06:44:29 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:45:36 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:46:16 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:47:48 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:49:02 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:49:22 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:40 -!- WalrusKing has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:27 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:14:37 -!- rj54x has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:17:12 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:23:58 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:27:31 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:30:22 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:34:01 -!- tgcid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:38:38 -!- BOTBrad_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:44:35 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:48 -!- graymark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:46:54 Player page: wrong uppercasing for some species/class abbreviations 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9829 by Yermak 07:48:22 -!- omniscient has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:54:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:01:47 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:01:54 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 08:13:23 my Gehenna:2 has no > staircases 08:13:42 -!- nixor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16:24 dpeg: maybe you don't deserve any! 08:16:28 stay in hell forever... 08:16:51 but they're probably all together in some weird location in a subvault? 08:28:02 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:28:14 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:31:29 yes, but it is a really big subvault 08:31:39 anyway, soldiered on, spent my last ?MM on G:2 08:37:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:42:35 did Pan for the first time 08:44:51 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48:50 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:53:51 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:03:47 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:07:37 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 09:07:39 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:13:37 wow, really the first time 09:13:45 !lm dpeg br.enter=pan 1 09:13:45 1/6. [2015-06-29 16:51:10] dpeg the Farming Pyromancer (L27 MuNe of Gozag) entered Pandemonium on turn 269471. (Depths:3) 09:14:26 !lm devteamnp br.enter=pan s=name 09:14:29 1520 milestones for devteamnp (br.enter=pan): 362x 78291, 252x MarvinPA, 126x elliptic, 110x Sage, 103x gammafunk, 89x evilmike, 79x KiloByte, 63x PleasingFungus, 63x HangedMan, 50x Medar, 37x itsmu, 34x Lasty, 27x SGrunt, 27x erisdiscordia, 17x doy, 15x ontoclasm, 15x sorear, 13x wheals, 8x rob, 6x dpeg, 5x DracoOmega, 4x mumra, 4x felirx, 4x Keskitalo, 4x pointless, 2x evktalo, bh 09:15:05 !lm devteamnp br.enter=coc s=name 09:15:06 356 milestones for devteamnp (br.enter=coc): 139x 78291, 34x MarvinPA, 19x evilmike, 18x rob, 15x elliptic, 14x Sage, 14x KiloByte, 11x itsmu, 11x pointless, 11x sorear, 10x gammafunk, 10x HangedMan, 9x PleasingFungus, 8x doy, 8x Medar, 6x Lasty, 4x erisdiscordia, 3x dpeg, 3x SGrunt, 2x ontoclasm, mumra, reaverb, wheals, haranp, Keskitalo, felirx, evktalo 09:15:16 !lm devteamnp br.enter=coc|dis|tar|geh s=name 09:15:18 1612 milestones for devteamnp (br.enter=coc|dis|tar|geh): 690x 78291, 147x MarvinPA, 75x evilmike, 72x elliptic, 65x rob, 61x itsmu, 60x KiloByte, 56x Sage, 45x gammafunk, 45x pointless, 43x PleasingFungus, 40x sorear, 37x doy, 37x HangedMan, 33x Medar, 21x Lasty, 19x erisdiscordia, 12x SGrunt, 10x ontoclasm, 9x dpeg, 7x mumra, 5x evktalo, 5x Keskitalo, 4x felirx, 4x bookofjude, 4x wheals, 3x hara... 09:20:30 gammafunk: thank Trog we have some competent people on the team :) 09:20:53 -!- Chance671 has quit [Client Quit] 09:25:14 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:27:25 -!- BOTBrad_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:28:46 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:28:53 dpeg: but surely there's some way to fix that! 09:29:23 fire the competent people so there's a level playing field 09:29:31 seems only fair 09:29:59 either that or add more terrible players to devteam so it evens out 09:30:29 03amalloy02 07* 0.17-a0-1405-g44f19e0: Add "freeze time" option to wizmode 10(10 days ago, 4 files, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/44f19e0412c0 09:30:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1472-g5dff9ad: Merge pull request #71 from amalloy/freeze-time 10(7 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5dff9ada9a0c 09:31:44 incidently playing in wizmode with that freeze time option enabled is kind of fun 09:32:06 is zawarudogod a thing 09:32:15 it does need to be tweaked to not make all the "hostile monster in los" check for eating/travel etc 09:32:21 kvaak: what now? 09:32:50 amalloy_: re freeze time, it might be nice to have it not make all the "hostile monster in los" check for eating/travel etc 09:32:55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CamPXxfl7Lw 09:35:17 <|amethyst> hm 09:35:19 ... who is turning that into a god? :p 09:35:35 <|amethyst> I'd consider making the wizard_freeze_time prop either there or not 09:35:47 <|amethyst> rather than having it nearly always be there, but false 09:36:25 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:51 <|amethyst> using exists() for testing, [] for setting, and erase() for unsetting 09:37:14 -!- quik has quit [Client Quit] 09:37:50 <|amethyst> in particular, if (you.props["wizard_freeze_time"].get_bool()) adds the prop and sets it to false if it was missing 09:38:01 <|amethyst> must go though 09:39:50 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45:54 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:51:51 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:33 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 09:55:34 -!- giantbat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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13:46:58 <|amethyst> oh, another thing I was thinking of 13:46:58 <|amethyst> I'm not sure about allowing the prop to function on NOWIZARD builds 13:47:02 <|amethyst> I guess it's not terribly important, but it does mean you have to go back to a WIZARD build to turn it off 13:47:37 <|amethyst> that isn't the problem, save compat is 13:47:51 it doesn't even seem much cleaner at runtime, really, right? like all it is doing is saving an entry in a hashmap. i guess it's been too long since i worked in C, because i can't make myself believe that is important 13:48:04 <|amethyst> which is why props are nice in the first place 13:48:18 <|amethyst> amalloy: yeah, there's just one player so it doesn't particularly matter for efficiency 13:48:59 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:48:59 -!- gressup|sleep has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:49:23 I worry about it about further confusion for developers for "when should this be a prop" 13:49:26 <|amethyst> amalloy: I just don't like the style of using a prop for something that is always present 13:49:48 <|amethyst> and having something that looks like a query and actually inserts into a data structure 13:50:06 well, most of the time it is actually a query 13:51:37 <|amethyst> yeah, it's just once per character 13:51:40 <|amethyst> since it's always present after that point 13:51:53 <|amethyst> but in that case making it a data member of you seems more appropriate 13:52:45 <|amethyst> (would be nice if making it a data member didn't make save compat harder, though) 13:52:53 i just remember that last time i added something to the player struct (the good-god saved-piety thing), and marshalling code for it, someone was horrified 13:53:04 so i didn't do it this time 13:53:35 <|amethyst> I guess the rule of thumb I use is: if it's present most of the time, use a member 13:53:43 <|amethyst> if it's only present sometimes, use a prop 13:54:26 <|amethyst> but that said 13:54:40 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:54:41 |amethyst: one thing i suggested it might be worth doing is making time-freeze a duration 13:54:47 rather than a prop 13:54:49 <|amethyst> I don't think your way is bad code, and keep it that way if you prefer 13:55:29 <|amethyst> hmm 13:55:30 GF seemed to have some concerns about that approach based on conditional compilation of wizmode, but i don't really think it would be an issue. and you'd get a nice status light for it 13:56:30 <|amethyst> you can make a status light without a duration though 13:56:41 (Removed?) Skeletal archers appeared in crypt 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9831 by ldf 13:56:59 that's true 13:57:17 <|amethyst> I think duration has the wrong semantics and conveys the wrong impression 13:57:32 <|amethyst> my first thought was "but why would you want it to time out?" before I realised "oh yeah..." 13:58:38 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:59:26 okay, i'm in agreement that a duration is semantically wrong 14:00:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:35 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:06:53 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 14:10:14 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11:39 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:16:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:36 <|amethyst> %git f6af75e 14:17:36 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2085-gf6af75e: Remove porridge/blood from potion petition 10(8 months ago, 4 files, 35+ 54-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f6af75eef560 14:18:45 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:50 %git 14:26:50 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-1473-gfb315ab: Don't crash on remembered thrown weapon choice (#9591) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fb315ab9eb33 14:27:25 what's our general tournament schedule? 14:28:08 "whenever the release happens" 14:28:22 <|amethyst> potion petition can give you just one !hw, right? 14:28:34 well, we sort of aranged things so that the tournaments would occur at more reasonable times 14:28:54 but I'm not sure what those more desirable months are 14:29:19 <|amethyst> ??tourney[2] 14:29:20 tournament[2/4]: The 0.15 tournament ran from 20:00 UTC Aug 29 to 20:00 UTC Sep 14. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/ Final standings: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/overview.html 14:29:47 <|amethyst> that was later than traditionally, but I don't know if anyone minded 14:29:50 <|amethyst> ??tourney[4] 14:29:50 tournament[4/4]: Tourney scoring scripts: http://github.com/elliptic/dcss_tourney . 14:29:52 <|amethyst> ??tourney[3] 14:29:52 tournament[3/4]: Results from earlier tournaments: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tournaments.html 14:29:54 <|amethyst> ??tourney[1] 14:29:54 tournament[1/4]: The 0.16 tournament ran from 20:00 UTC Mar 13 to 20:00 UTC Mar 29. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/overview.html 14:30:14 <|amethyst> oh, that was actually a big improvement over 2012 though 14:30:28 -!- captainkraft has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:30:51 !kw t0.12 14:30:52 Built-in: t0.12 => start>=20130511 time<20130527 cv=0.12 explbr= 14:31:07 <|amethyst> I guess one question is, do we shoot for 6 months per release, or for a short-long cadence 14:31:08 !kw t0.11 14:31:08 Built-in: t0.11 => start>=20121020 time<20121105 cv=0.11 explbr= 14:31:50 <|amethyst> or ignore years entirely :) 14:32:08 <|amethyst> six months would suggest releasing in mid-september 14:32:58 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:32:58 -!- captainkraft_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:33:06 having a fixed period is best for tournament planning (if certain months are always better) and for ensuring that a release doesn't take too long 14:33:14 but it does box us in somewhat 14:34:58 I do recall a discussions of how the 0.15 tournament date wasn't good and how we tried to improve that for 0.16, but I don't know if we really care about tournament months or if we only care that e.g. the first tournament of the year is at a certain date range 14:35:22 and the second can be more variable 14:37:25 New branch created: pull/78 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/78 14:37:25 03amalloy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/78 * 0.17-a0-1474-gdd8d3e9: Delete a prop instead of just setting it to false (amethyst) 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 15+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dd8d3e90aa34 14:38:50 -!- Marquis has quit [Client Quit] 14:39:36 |amethyst: ^ 14:39:37 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:41:09 hrm, is the auto& props alias necessary in wizard_freeze_time()? 14:42:00 maybe that's good style and I'm just not used to it, but you. isn't a lot of extra chars 14:42:39 gammafunk: it's not necessary, im sure, but it is nice to avoid the repetition of you. 14:43:23 I'm so narcissistic that writing you repeatedly actually makes me feel good 14:43:47 gammafunk's for loops use "me" as the iteration variable 14:44:32 <|amethyst> the alias doesn't hurt anyway; I would be wary of doing it in monster or somewhere else there was already a 'props' in scope, but I don't see a problem here 14:45:20 right. and in monster, the props in scope is the one you want to use anyway, so you wouldn't need this. i thought it was nice that this way looks the same as the stuff in monster/actor/player 14:48:24 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 14:49:00 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:49:14 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:18 -!- giantbat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55:44 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:45 The build was fixed. (master - fb315ab #2908 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/69167535 14:55:45 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:56:31 oh, heh 14:56:47 amalloy: mind rewriting the commit line to use |amethyst instead of just "amethyst"? 14:57:06 <|amethyst> I can do that 14:57:11 ok 14:57:27 was going to use the Green Button but then I saw that 14:58:01 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:59:51 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:59:58 wonder if git could just have some kind of Credit: field like how it uses Author: 15:00:32 probably a host of issues with adding a bunch of additional commit data like that 15:00:57 <|amethyst> you can do that already though 15:01:13 <|amethyst> I mean, it won't show in the headers of emails 15:01:23 <|amethyst> but do it in the same way as signed-off-by 15:01:40 <|amethyst> Now, whether anyone pays attention to that... 15:01:44 right 15:01:54 <|amethyst> but that's more a question for github, gitstats, etc than for git itself 15:02:10 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:02:15 yeah, seems like using that for referencing bug numbers/ pull requests and "additionnal authors" 15:02:42 could be a useful thing, rather than shoving too much into the commit message 15:02:47 New branch created: pull/79 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/79 15:02:47 03amalloy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/79 * 0.17-a0-1474-ge13dee2: Some more monster-description proof-reading 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e13dee2f5597 15:02:54 i think the easiest way would be to put it in a git-note on the commit, and have github check the notes to decide how to display the commit 15:02:56 well, github has special treatment for @usernames, if I remember correctly? 15:03:19 yeah, and it parses the message for things like "closes #71" 15:03:21 <|amethyst> ugh, social coding 15:03:25 haha 15:03:32 yeah 15:03:36 <|amethyst> I just responded to a few comments on commits yesterday 15:03:43 Careful everyone! He's going to rant about cellphones next! Run! 15:03:44 <|amethyst> I don't want to have to monitor comments on my commits :( 15:03:48 "ugh" is a good way to summarize it, but that appears to be the contemporary reality 15:04:10 <|amethyst> one of them did lead to a bugfix though 15:04:20 <|amethyst> %git :/0.*9 15:04:21 07amalloy02 * 0.17-a0-1475-g8e07232: Merge e13dee2f5597b8f3bc5308e91ca721554c6adc42 into fb315ab9eb3369783ff133e151d120062bce4543 10(6 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e072326a698 15:04:21 it would indeed be nice if some elements of it were at least opt-out if not opt-in 15:04:25 <|amethyst> err 15:04:30 <|amethyst> %git :/0ion 15:04:30 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-1470-g474c87d: Account for bloodless Vp in explore_auto_rest (Sprucery, 0ion9) 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/474c87db9304 15:04:32 Does it just email you if you get a comment? 15:04:38 it being github 15:04:45 well yeah, but the SNR is usually not very good 15:04:56 <|amethyst> I don't know what's the default, I turned off the email notifications immediately 15:05:00 gammafunk: yes 15:05:24 but you can check the "grumpy old man" box if you don't want them 15:05:50 I shall begin making all my commits through twitter 15:05:57 should improve my ability to write concise code 15:06:25 <|amethyst> !learn add |amethyst but you can check the "grumpy old man" box if you don't want them 15:06:26 |amethyst[22/22]: but you can check the "grumpy old man" box if you don't want them 15:07:00 |amethyst: s/them/[notification emails]/? 15:07:22 github just asks you "Would you like the interface for users born before 1995?" 15:07:38 gammafunk: and then it turns everything beige? 15:07:44 <|amethyst> hmm 15:08:13 <|amethyst> oh 15:08:24 <|amethyst> needs to be minor save compat but it won't even look like save compat 15:08:59 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:08:59 what did you guys do to my glorious commit message on https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e072326a698 ? 15:09:45 <|amethyst> because if you built since 5.5 hours ago you will have the prop set to false 15:09:49 <|amethyst> even if you're not a wizard 15:09:55 is that the merge commit? 15:10:00 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:10:44 yeah that's not your actual commit 15:10:57 it's the merge commit in the pr 15:10:58 oh, you're right, |amethyst. yikes 15:11:04 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:11:12 <|amethyst> yeah, I guess that's the auto-merge stuff 15:11:55 it 15:12:03 s weird, because i don't actually see that commit on any tree 15:12:32 it's a ref that's put in 15:12:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:12:54 /pull/pr#/merge 15:13:23 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:31 <|amethyst> hm 15:13:38 |amethyst: it doesn't actually need any save compat 15:13:40 so if you've added those refs to your git config for the github origin 15:13:41 <|amethyst> I wonder how chei heard about it, though 15:13:42 because i used a different key 15:13:47 you queried it, no? 15:13:52 <|amethyst> amalloy: ahh 15:14:05 chei probably has those refs in its git config? 15:14:08 freeze_time instead of wizard_freeze_time 15:14:52 so it doesn't announce them, but if you do a search it can find it, I assume 15:15:34 <|amethyst> fetch = +refs/*:refs/* 15:15:34 <|amethyst> fetch = +refs/pull/*/head:refs/heads/pull/* 15:15:37 oh, i see. indeed it was just queried via git. whew, no longer confused 15:16:03 <|amethyst> so I don't know why it would even see refs/pull/79/merge unless something else was referring to it 15:16:17 <|amethyst> oh 15:16:20 <|amethyst> the frist line 15:16:24 <|amethyst> first 15:16:36 <|amethyst> okay, makes sense then 15:17:05 oh, is the second line redundant then? 15:17:24 yeah guess so 15:17:25 -!- chance672 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:31 I have 15:17:36 fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* 15:17:36 fetch = +refs/pull/*:refs/remotes/origin/pull/* 15:17:39 so I need both 15:17:46 I managed to get a basic LearnDB lookup bot up and running 15:17:59 no searching, only direct term lookup 15:18:32 <|amethyst> using the web query interface, or downloading the db yourself? 15:18:37 using the web API 15:18:44 <|amethyst> I think it has a way to search? 15:18:51 it does, just not implemented yet 15:18:58 as in my bot implemented 15:19:02 <|amethyst> aha 15:19:12 if anyone has a twitch account and wants to try and break it 15:19:18 www.twitch.tv/chance672 15:20:28 well it's not clear how to query it 15:20:32 ?? 15:20:35 same ??entry syntax? 15:20:37 same as sequell 15:20:37 yes 15:20:59 well looks like it works 15:21:43 <|amethyst> "Shockwave flash has crashed", but 32-bit Linux so not surprising 15:21:52 bahah 15:22:16 <|amethyst> I'm sure that's Adobe's fault 15:22:19 03amalloy02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.17-a0-1474-ga58c500: Delete a prop instead of just setting it to false (|amethyst) 10(49 minutes ago, 3 files, 15+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a58c50047a0d 15:22:43 needs to support !source and !vault 15:22:57 and of course monster 15:23:06 im going to slowly add more features to it 15:23:09 such as search 15:23:12 and the !lg stuff 15:23:26 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:24:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:25:03 03amalloy02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.17-a0-1475-g9f81d98: Some more monster-description proof-reading 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f81d98594c3 15:30:34 -!- Cybersaint2k has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:33:42 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:33:52 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:36:18 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: YourBNC - (https://yourbnc.co.uk)] 15:37:19 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:48:18 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:21 -!- Kramin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52:25 -!- xordid has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:53:24 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:16 -!- chance672 has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 15:55:57 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:59:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:13 gammafunk: ty for constifying your int :) 16:01:29 MarvinPA: do you have an opinion on the 'skeleton archer' vault monster 16:01:53 iirc it's a remnant from when skeleton warriors were spellcasters (and so a vault monster was needed to remove those spells) 16:02:07 possibly they could just be skeleton warriors now? 16:02:39 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 16:08:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:42 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16:03 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:17:24 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 16:23:04 -!- Torax_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:34:23 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:43:17 yeah, you can just give skeletal warriors a launcher/missiles 16:43:31 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:52 I seem to recall there's some kind of weird support for setting the archer flag, but we shouldn't do that 16:46:21 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:51:27 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:51:32 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 16:52:48 -!- omniscient has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:31 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:08:52 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:12 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:13:14 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:27:04 -!- Guest10403 is now known as fazisi 17:32:29 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:32:35 LRD range was changed recently? 17:33:50 Syndicus: only insofar as the range of everything circular became square 17:34:33 i remember before the 9 center blocks and the ring around them were lighter 17:34:47 now only 9 correct? 17:35:23 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:35:23 not since squareLOS but would've been much more recent 17:35:43 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:36:56 <|amethyst> ??LRD 17:36:57 lrd[1/4]: Lee's Rapid Deconstruction: Turns walls into explosions. Useful for removing inconvenient stone or green crystal walls, though one needs fairly high power to pierce stone, and even higher to pierce metal (see {lrd[4]}). Causes lots of undodgeable damage to anything foolish enough to be near the wall (but AC is applied thrice). 17:36:58 someone (|amethyst?) changed LRD recently relating to frozen-solid enemies, i think. dunno if that rippled out to anywhere unintended 17:37:02 <|amethyst> ??LRD[4] 17:37:02 lrd[4/4]: You need the following amount of spell power to have a shot at destroying a wall: rock: 40, stone: 60, metal: 80. Green crystal has a 50% chance to be shattered regardless of spell power. 17:37:09 <|amethyst> ??LRD[2] 17:37:09 lrd[2/4]: LRD also works on enemies with varying effectiveness. Regular enemies are untargetable, but statues, most golems, and anything petrified or made of metal, rock, or ice will be damaged and spray fragments of varying range/damage. Pre-0.14, skeletal enemies had a good, power-based chance to instantly die (including bone dragons!) 17:37:14 <|amethyst> ??LRD[3] 17:37:14 lrd[3/4]: Works on doors (open or closed), making it one of the more effective ways to open one from afar. Furthermore, it works (without destroying) on stone arches, and can majorly piss Beogh off when used on an orcish idol. It does nothing when the floor is targeted. 17:37:34 <|amethyst> it only gets radius 2 when it breaks the thing, right? 17:38:09 |amethyst: i think i may have been wrong here - i was targeting a metal wall and really didnt notice 17:38:14 <|amethyst> ah 17:38:25 stone looks as expected 17:38:30 <|amethyst> yeah, you probably don't have enough spell power to explode the wall :) 17:38:35 <|amethyst> s/wall/metal/ 17:38:37 :( 17:38:49 <|amethyst> ??spell power 17:38:49 spell power[1/5]: (Spellcasting/2 + 2*avg school skill) * INT/10 * (1.5 ^ enhancer count). Spellpower has diminishing returns over 50, graphed here: http://tinyurl.com/oeme7aj . Stepdown is min(pow, 200, 50*log_2(1 + pow/50)). Capped at 200. Negative spell enhancers use 0.5, not 0.66. 17:38:53 <|amethyst> ??spell power[2] 17:38:53 spell power[2/5]: ...and the significance of this? It's related to conjuration damage and self-enchantment duration, and controls the probability of a resistable spell succeeding in a less-simple fashion. And other appropriate things. 17:39:03 <|amethyst> ??spell power[/pips] 17:39:03 I don't have a page labeled spell power[/pips] in my learndb. 17:39:06 <|amethyst> ??spell power[pips] 17:39:06 I don't have a page labeled spell power[pips] in my learndb. 17:39:08 ########.. 17:39:43 |amethyst: metal never gets radius 2 afaik 17:39:53 even if you blow it up 17:40:54 <|amethyst> aha 17:41:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:41:31 -!- chance672 has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 17:42:59 <|amethyst> only rock/glass/stone, idols/granite statues, grates, crystal walls, and crystal monsters can give big explosions 17:43:07 -!- twofortypee has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:43:22 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:43:51 <|amethyst> err, not grates 17:44:10 <|amethyst> !source spl-damage.cc:2152 17:44:11 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc#l2152 17:44:24 <|amethyst> that check is always false 17:44:35 <|amethyst> that line of the check I mean 17:44:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 17:45:21 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:37 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:46:11 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:50:35 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:54:06 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 17:57:45 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:09 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I just got an Item buggily placed out of bounds message 19:02:09 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 19:02:16 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:04:07 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:08 The build was broken. (master - a58c500 #2912 : Alan Malloy): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/69185721 19:04:08 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:10:19 !lm Dharmy x=src 19:10:20 6015. [2015-07-01 22:52:35] [src=cszo] Dharmy the Black Belt (L15 DrTm of Okawaru) entered the Swamp on turn 32868. (Lair:5) 19:10:38 Dharmy: there might be a 'backup save' option over SSH, or ask |amethyst 19:15:08 Got it thanks. 19:15:53 devs can access the save now, so just mention you did backup save on cszo 19:29:17 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:36:23 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:37:56 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:38:04 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:39:25 -!- behavioral has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:40:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:44:47 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:50:07 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:52:29 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05:02 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:10:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:12:24 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:51 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:21:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:22:54 -!- quik has quit [Quit: How could I dance with another when I saw her standing there?] 20:25:57 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:05 Piginabag (L27 OgWn) ASSERT(you.see_cell(p)) in 'directn.cc' at line 1254 failed. 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