00:02:13 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 00:09:18 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:14:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:15:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:16:00 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19:58 Autoexplore ignores area blocked by excluded door 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9812 by Whales 00:20:32 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:22:53 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:35 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1430-g49fde19 (34) 00:34:20 -!- Idolo has quit [] 00:49:56 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:55:29 -!- giantbat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:38 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:08:50 can't tell if this is actually thanking me or not https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&p=211654#p211654 01:10:24 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1430-g49fde19 (34) 01:14:44 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19:01 hrm, reminds me of that issue of how we could ever match up the screenshots 01:19:12 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:20:02 it's easy to have the js client make an image, but you can't do that since the client can be modified, and people could just make a client that gave porn or something 01:20:15 but you could have the crawl binary write json of some tiles probably 01:20:45 and then a server-side process that made an image from the json, although this might be a bit tricky 01:21:32 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:53 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:50 oh, you could probably make special "client" js code and run it on the server using e.g. node 01:24:26 <|amethyst> to do it without writing another rendered, I see a few options: 1. use a "browser" like webkit2png on the server 2. figure out some way to run (part of) our client js server-side, but then you need things like canvas and so on in your server-side js so that's basically 1 01:24:51 yeah I think your 1. is what I was talking about with node 01:25:20 well no, it wasn't actually 01:25:35 <|amethyst> 2 is what you were talking about 01:25:36 <|amethyst> there's a 3 01:25:50 -!- Cheburashka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:26:01 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:26:01 <|amethyst> 3. leave in a small part of the SDL local tiles rendering code in the webtiles binary 01:26:06 yeah 01:26:12 <|amethyst> just enough to render the view area to a bitmap on demand 01:26:13 was thinking how it'd be easier if we had sdl in the binary 01:26:36 but I don't think we can seperate sdl tiles code very easilly? 01:27:50 <|amethyst> as a first pass we could get it working with everything 01:28:27 <|amethyst> (removing things that assume "either webtiles or local tiles but not both", just as we removed the "ascii or webtiles but not both" assumptions) 01:28:46 yeah, and I suppose in the end, this would all work like how dumps do 01:28:54 just a gammafunk.png in the morgue dir 01:29:09 I guess we'd link to that directly 01:29:37 <|amethyst> or could do it without the filesystem 01:30:23 <|amethyst> webtiles gets a request for a particular URL pattern, it sends JSON to crawl saying "give me a screenshot", crawl spits that back over the websocket connection 01:30:54 hrm 01:31:03 <|amethyst> I guess though you probably want to cache it anyway 01:31:04 oh I see 01:31:11 the initial request is just http(s) 01:31:16 <|amethyst> yeah 01:31:25 so the png comes in the response 01:31:31 <|amethyst> yeah 01:31:44 <|amethyst> you might want to cache it, but that can be a detail of the webtiles server 01:31:52 <|amethyst> and not exposed in the user's directory 01:32:59 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:07 <|amethyst> I guess my "simple" approach of just rendering in all three ways (curses, json, and sdl) is likely to be problematic because of the extra resource usage 01:34:16 <|amethyst> so it really should be "on-demand" 01:34:36 oh yeah, if you mean always rendering each draw in all three ways? 01:34:41 <|amethyst> yeah 01:34:57 <|amethyst> since 40 copies of crawl tiles are not likely to run well on a server 01:35:05 <|amethyst> together 01:35:49 <|amethyst> because of memory but also because it kind of assumes you have a GPU 01:37:08 don't tell me that cszo doesn't have a nice gpu!! 01:37:25 <|amethyst> maybe it would work out, but my uneducated guess is it would cut the number of processes we can handle in half 01:37:39 <|amethyst> but anyway we don't need that so it doesn't matter 01:38:08 <|amethyst> oh, I just thought of an option 4 01:38:44 <|amethyst> rip out a chunk of the client, embed that in the home page, and have webtiles or the game or whatever feed it json 01:39:12 <|amethyst> hm 01:39:20 <|amethyst> I guess the problem there is the tilesheet size 01:39:53 <|amethyst> since the viewer have to have the whole tilesheets before it could do anything 01:40:25 <|amethyst> (and that's assuming all the games will be the same version, which they won't be) 01:41:37 right, multiple tilesheets 01:42:46 and if any basic rendering logic changes, it could be very hard to maintain that ripped-out client 01:43:24 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:40 <|amethyst> yeah 01:43:52 when you create the dump, also dump a tiles screenshot 01:43:58 <|amethyst> and if you were going to do that 01:44:14 <|amethyst> you could just as well embed the actual client in an iframe or whatever 01:44:14 then the frontpage can crop that as it likes 01:44:37 that doesn't work, since each game is x mb of png/js data 01:44:54 well, I guess you're comparing it against something else that doesn't work 01:44:57 <|amethyst> oh, right, can't be an iframe 01:45:03 <|amethyst> hm 01:45:07 <|amethyst> no, they can still share 01:45:20 <|amethyst> in the browser cache 01:45:35 <|amethyst> since you are likely to have only three or four versions at any one time 01:45:43 <|amethyst> but you're right that that's still too much 01:46:56 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:46:57 <|amethyst> re dumping the screenshot to a file, there also needs to be some kind of locking 01:47:08 does there? 01:47:09 you can't have the client dump to an image tough 01:47:21 or rather, it's unwise 01:47:24 as an approach 01:47:26 <|amethyst> right, I think this would be with the SDL thing 01:47:40 yeah, as long as the binary is doing the dumping 01:47:54 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:48:15 <|amethyst> chequers: I guess not "locking" exactly... it could just be "rely on mv being atomic" 01:48:25 <|amethyst> so i guess that's not so bad 01:49:12 even if you just overwrite the image I'm not too fussed about 0.05s/15min the image being corrupt 01:49:38 (but mv overwrite should be perfectly safe and easy to implement) 01:50:04 <|amethyst> 0.05s/15min is one out of 18000 01:50:32 <1% 01:50:34 <|amethyst> not sure how many page views we get, but 18000 doesn't sound like that big of a number 01:51:08 I agree 01:52:33 <|amethyst> though I do wonder 01:52:38 I'm still proud of the 'random info snippet' design, and it would really complete the page to have real images 01:53:10 <|amethyst> Napkin: do you happen to know how many page views per day for the CDO (new) front page? 01:54:17 we should stick some analytics on there 01:54:28 it'd be interesting to see what device people access it on 01:55:50 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:27 do you have a google account? I'll add GA now. Wonder how many roguelike nerds block trackers though 01:56:53 <|amethyst> hm, I am somewhat wary of adding GA 01:57:15 <|amethyst> or is it entirely server-side? 01:57:29 why? -- no, it's the opposite 01:58:16 basically it's a JS snippet that collects browser info (size, locale, etc) and posts to google.com 01:58:41 <|amethyst> yeah, I'm not really comfortable with enabling google to better track our users 01:59:31 <|amethyst> at least, not for stuff that can be discovered just as well by grepping server logs 01:59:58 -!- Zilis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:00:23 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 02:01:22 hah i'm not too surprised. One metric I'd like for website dev is browser type and view dimensions, which is not possible from server logs 02:02:25 you also tend to underrepresent non-english users by taking browser locales at face value 02:06:59 <|amethyst> for those things I'd rather us have js that posts the info to our servers rather than google 02:07:10 <|amethyst> surely that's feasible 02:08:24 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:15:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:15:24 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:16:48 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 02:18:20 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:19:36 i haven't used the open source alternatives but presumably they do most of what google does 02:21:12 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:07 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:24:01 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:26:24 -!- Bcadren is now known as Mr_Lich 02:26:58 no clue, |amethyst, but you can check yourself 02:27:17 <|amethyst> Napkin: ah, where are the logs? 02:27:20 -!- Mr_Lich is now known as Bcadren 02:27:42 after you login to the wordpress 02:27:53 in the admin section there is a "site stats" link 02:28:08 login there with your wordpress account 02:28:20 or mantis... not entirely sure anymore 02:28:46 <|amethyst> ah, nice 02:28:54 <|amethyst> aren't those the same? 02:29:41 no, wordpress & mantis are separated, unfortunately 02:30:20 <|amethyst> oh, right, it's the wiki and tavern and mantis or something like that 02:30:20 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:31:27 would that count frontpage hits? 02:31:30 <|amethyst> hm, nowhere near as much traffic on / as I was expecting, just 22k views a month 02:31:39 i bet 30% of visitors at least don't go further than the static site 02:31:52 <|amethyst> /tavern/viewtopic is the most viewed by far 02:31:57 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32:05 is that literally views, not unique people? 02:33:16 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:33:17 <|amethyst> I believe so, yes, since the numbers for tavern are higher than the monthly total number of unique visitors 02:33:37 <|amethyst> 130k views for tavern in june (so not quite a whole month) 02:34:15 <|amethyst> vs 53k unique visitors (157k visits, 1.1M pages) 02:34:16 new post checkers 02:34:23 <|amethyst> yeah 02:35:35 <|amethyst> hm 02:35:59 <|amethyst> dgl-status.json is 26k and I'm sure that's not unique visitors :) 02:38:07 so is that 1-25 or 26-25 dates? either way, yeah lower than I thought, but I guess few players hit the frontpage 02:38:37 <|amethyst> jun 1-25 02:40:14 <|amethyst> the single biggest entry page is actually in the debian inrelease file that we don't actually have (so it's a 404) 02:40:20 <|amethyst> s/in // 02:40:40 <|amethyst> but / is number 2 02:42:00 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:44:43 <|amethyst> it's also interesting just how many different feed URLs are there: /worpress/feed, /wordpress/category/news/feed, /wordpress/xmlrpc.php, /tavern/mobiquo/mobiquo.php, /tavern/feed.php, /wordpress/comments/feed, /trunk/rss/crawl_setup.php, 02:44:50 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:45:24 <|amethyst> and that's not counting the stuff that's part of crawl infrastructure, or "view all" pages that render as HTML rather than XML or json or whatever 02:45:36 fwiw xmlrpc.php is trackbacks, not a feed 02:45:44 <|amethyst> ah 02:46:08 <|amethyst> co-feed then :P 02:48:03 <|amethyst> #1 outside referrer that's not a search engine is chaosforge wiki 02:48:50 <|amethyst> then roguebasin, then a korean forum, then learndb, then duckduckgo because I guess it doesn't know that's a search engine 02:49:08 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:51:00 what's the split in / referrers for organic, search and other? 02:51:22 do you also get bounce rates? 02:53:13 <|amethyst> it only categorises by search engine or not, and doesn't know about DDG: 85.6% of entries with no referrer, 11.3% from search engines, 3% from external pages 02:53:43 85.6%!!!! 02:54:12 perhaps it's an artifact of the http/https dual-availability 02:54:14 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:54:15 <|amethyst> well, that's going to count every single time someone's apt update cron job runs 02:54:31 <|amethyst> if they have our repo enables 02:54:35 <|amethyst> s/les/led/ 02:54:43 ah, not per page stats 02:55:22 <|amethyst> those are "pages" which it seems to use to mean "page views", but it counts those as pages 02:55:36 <|amethyst> I'm not sure which things exactly are counted as "hits" rather than "pages" 02:56:02 ... 02:56:04 <|amethyst> the number is only twice as high as "pages" so surely it's not every single resource 02:56:23 If I try to airstrike an eldritch tentacle (or segment) while it's over the portal, I get the message "Why would you want to do that?" 02:59:27 <|amethyst> minmay: hm.. 02:59:47 if it's not over the portal it works fine 03:00:23 <|amethyst> I bet if rock worms still existed you would get the same message 03:00:37 <|amethyst> it's the "you're trying to target a wall" message 03:00:50 you can't airstrike gazebos 03:01:19 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:24 <|amethyst> ??rock worm 03:01:24 rock worm[1/1]: A worm that burrows into walls (does not dig, just enters them), and is there protected from harm. Rock worm zombies retain this ability. Disintegration (only when in rock), freeze, vampiric draining, smiting, torment/agony, and shatter are the only ways to hurt them when in walls. Burrowed out of the game in 0.14. 03:02:23 <|amethyst> ah, when rock worms still existed, airstrike fizzled on bad targetting rather than cancelling 03:02:42 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:04:49 i forgot about rockworms 03:04:56 never did like them 03:05:59 i'm actually glad rock worms were in the game for a while, entirely because of what xw did when it first encountered one 03:06:09 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:06:58 which was? 03:08:11 you know that bug in nethack where autotravel would sometimes repeatedly move SE, then NW, then SE, then NW... until you fainted from hunger or were interrupted by a monster 03:08:43 nethack had autotravel? 03:08:50 only for the current level 03:08:56 oh yes, but no 03:08:57 <|amethyst> our autotravel is based on nethack's 03:09:25 anyway, that's what xw did when it found a rock worm in a wall 03:09:25 <|amethyst> That's why Warwick Allison is in CREDITS.txt 03:09:42 <|amethyst> (snark made a lot of adaptations and changes of course) 03:10:09 it went to the corner of a corridor and moved NW, then SE, then NW... repeatedly next to the rock worm in the wall, until its hp got low enough for it to panic and run away 03:10:43 it did that sort of loop every single time a rock worm was in a wall and adjacent 03:11:20 this is more of a "you had to be there" thing, sadly i think the ttyrec of it happening is gone 03:11:37 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:12:24 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:41 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:49 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:13 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1430-g49fde19 (34) 03:28:57 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:57 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:30:59 !messages 03:31:00 No messages for TZer0. 03:33:20 !send TZer0 important messages 03:33:21 Sending important messages to TZer0. 03:34:03 Hmm 03:34:27 Sequell, fetch me the important message! 03:34:59 anyway, here are some bleeps and bloops 03:35:00 http://underhound.eu/tzer0/public_www/renoise/temp/Happy%20Days.mp3 03:47:29 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:48:37 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 03:51:00 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:51:33 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:52:06 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:52:18 -!- Bcadren has quit [Quit: Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak] 03:52:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:58:23 -!- Prozacelf is now known as ProzacElf 03:58:30 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:06:36 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:16:21 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:18:54 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:28:52 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:29:36 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:38:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:40:21 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:42:20 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:59:49 -!- twzt_ is now known as twzt 05:00:51 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:03:35 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:46 -!- mineral has quit [Changing host] 05:03:46 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 05:04:22 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04:27 -!- buki_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:05:10 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:07:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:11:46 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:15:34 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:19:15 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:03 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:42:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:54:14 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:55:26 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:57:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:26 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:16:14 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:20:04 -!- Augustus has joined ##crawl-dev 06:20:27 -!- Augustus is now known as Guest31536 06:21:53 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:24:12 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:24:19 I was trying to address this issue; https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9811 I find that one line in [Line: 661 in ability.cc] is all that would need to be changed. Do we want to change this though? 06:25:43 -!- husanu2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:25:50 It looks like an intentional decision, rather than something that would be wantonly changed. 06:28:45 -!- husanu4 has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 06:29:04 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:31:16 -!- husanu1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:36:08 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 06:36:32 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 06:45:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 07:00:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 07:01:10 -!- Fusha has quit [] 07:09:34 Where the 'you' variable that all the 'you.foo' defined? Source-wide search for 'you' gets far too many hits. 07:13:56 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 07:17:01 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:19:36 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:21:19 HEYYEYAAE (L20 HuAE) (Shoals:1) 07:25:00 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:20 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:40:37 -!- gressup-sleep is now known as gressup 07:40:56 -!- gressup is now known as gressup|work 07:44:43 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:47:33 -!- falu has quit [Client Quit] 07:49:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:00:04 -!- omniscient has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:04:37 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:16:55 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:32:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:37:52 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:39:39 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:40:10 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:40:16 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:42:01 -!- Guest31536 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:42:24 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:46:23 -!- joke_LA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:50:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1431-g695b0fe: Don't allow using Vitalisation or Potion Petition while starving 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/695b0fea962c 08:52:20 -!- husanu3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58:33 -!- Stereographer has joined ##crawl-dev 08:59:15 -!- Voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:53 -!- husanu3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:12:10 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:13:24 -!- husanux3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:18:44 -!- husanux3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:19:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:56 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:21:24 -!- husanux6 has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 09:29:28 -!- husanux9 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:32 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:32:28 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:33:09 -!- shuangxi has quit [Client Quit] 09:34:43 !tell MarvinPA is passage of golubria supposed to work during orbrun? previously -ctele prevented using it, now you can both cast the spell and use the passages 09:34:44 kvaak: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 09:37:17 -!- Mindiell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:37:25 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:04 Trying to do a local build from a git pull; atm getting immediate memory fault errors from trying to use the compiler inside an open-source IDE, but I think this is the IDE acting up and not the compiler any advice on how to use mingw manually? 09:43:46 -!- Mindiell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:43:57 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:40 -!- Mindiell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47:17 -!- quik has quit [Quit: "Essere morto, spagnolo" Un italiano a un español, tras perder una mano de poker] 09:56:08 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:58:50 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:04:25 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 10:10:53 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12:40 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:14:45 Oh I found it in the docs. I'll try the process described there. 10:16:44 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:00 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:20:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:08 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 10:24:34 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:29:24 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:38:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:42:55 -!- BlasterBlade has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:45 -!- BlasterBlade has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:45:09 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:48:38 -!- Calico_D has quit [] 10:50:48 kvaak: woo, passage buff 10:51:03 I'm pretty excited about people using passage more 10:52:15 i'm not excited about being able to get to guaranteed safety a turn after picking up the orb 10:52:16 but maybe that's just me 10:52:36 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:52:59 wheals: yeah, probably not ideal. 10:53:50 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:55:00 The most abusive thing I can imagine is: stand on stairs, initiate tele, cast PoG, end up in/near orb chamber, apport orb, pick up orb, cast PoG again, step in, and if you don't end up back at the stairs step off and then back into the portal you came out of. 10:55:12 Wait, is the is out portal or in portal that gets removed? I can't recall. 10:56:45 idk but there's a tv of someone doing just that 10:57:02 except instead or reading ?tele at stairs he hasteruns from the first chamber 10:57:11 The portals last that long? 10:57:19 yes 10:57:41 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:58:15 hm 11:00:04 1lm mibe ck orb lg:ktyp=winning -tv 11:00:09 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 11:00:21 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:03:46 -!- teukkam has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:08:27 -!- GauHelldragon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:28 -!- GauHelldragon2 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:33 -!- xcourier has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:13:19 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:16:56 !source melee_attack.cc 11:16:56 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc 11:17:32 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:18:43 !source attack.cc 11:18:43 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/attack.cc 11:21:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:34 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 11:27:20 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:28 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 11:43:11 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:44:52 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:36 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:27 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:27 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Changing host] 12:04:27 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:33 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:48 -!- Monkaria has quit [Client Quit] 12:08:09 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16:35 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:19:27 -!- omniscient has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:21:16 -!- Wendol has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:25:02 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:26:15 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:27:37 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:27:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:32:03 -!- Dunkhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:36:43 @??iron_golem 12:36:43 iron golem (108) | Spd: 7 | HD: 15 | HP: 122-150 | AC/EV: 15/3 | Dam: 35 | 11non-living, 10doors, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 805 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 12:37:14 putting vampire bats in a vault on d:2 seems kind of mean 12:40:59 The best kind of mean 12:41:00 :-P 12:41:25 Expecting early dungeon levels to be nice is the leading cause of splats. 12:41:50 Should just put gnolls with halberds next to the dungeon entrance for every game. 12:41:58 Teach people what crawl is all about. 12:42:07 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:42:24 well, let me expand, it's a kiku altar vault with a door 12:42:31 so its an autoexplore trap 12:42:35 I'm sorry, I'm just being a jerkface. 12:42:46 Because I'm pre-coffee and think I'm hilarious. 12:43:10 Later I will come read scrollback and groan at my own silliness. 12:44:21 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:46:22 -!- kawatan has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:46:41 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:50 is that vault with the cool stuff on the teleport trap still in? 12:51:13 -!- karol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:53:25 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:57:59 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 12:59:16 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:16 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:05 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:40 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:46 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:29 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:03 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1431-g695b0fe (34) 13:05:05 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:34 -!- Ironfoot_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:13:00 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:14:17 stone wall tiles 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9813 by white_noise 13:15:00 not preventing passage on the orbrun was intentional, mostly i don't want there to still be a whole -ctele thing for the orbrun (and would rather it not block cblink either ideally) 13:15:00 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:15:12 since at least half the reason for removing ctele was being able to remove -ctele too 13:16:51 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:21:55 imo allow full teleport control on the orbrun and then spawn panlords everywhere with dimensional anchor, much neater 13:22:13 MarvinPA: and make dimensional anchor ignore MR? 13:22:35 isn't that one of the ones with weird rules 13:22:48 oh no, i'm thinking... something else, i dunno 13:22:58 oh right strip resistance 13:23:27 Make the orb amplify translocations instead -- every time you use one, it tears open a rift full of monsters near your destination. :p 13:23:59 just make it pop corrupt with your xl as invo 13:24:05 also everything is hostile 13:25:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:25:11 Passenger (X) | Spd:15 | HD: 30 | HP: 100-120 | AC/EV 15/15 | Dam: 60 . . . 13:25:37 While translocating, some passengers noticed the orb and tagged along. 13:25:49 Four passengers come into view. :p 13:26:16 also make passage of golubria randomly banish you 13:26:33 And random blinks just poke the player in the eyes 13:27:53 yeah, agree that -cTele on the orb is probably just not necessary, and maybe we can tweak the orb monster population in some way to add fun in the "you can't escape" regard 13:28:15 the teleport delay is probably good though 13:29:25 . . . cblink delay! :D When you cblink with the orb, you don't actually move to the destination tile for a few turns. :p 13:30:47 how about passfloor: after a few turns you merge with the floor and go down a level 13:31:09 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33:54 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:34:05 tried and tested, it must be a good effect! 13:34:39 otherwise surely it'd have been removed from that other game by now 13:43:38 give the orb stasis 13:43:47 fo can use the buff 13:47:07 that would make apporting it to the stairs actually useful i guess 13:47:20 also why is Cj recommended for spriggan, but not AE 13:47:36 !apt sp conj 13:47:36 Sp (SK_CONJURATIONS)=-3* 13:47:40 <|amethyst> probably in part the +4 hexes 13:47:55 <|amethyst> s/probably/maybe/ 13:48:03 conjurer, the most hexy background 13:48:13 it even has hexes in the name 13:48:26 probably because it was hard balance the number of recommended AE/Cj 13:49:35 gammafunk: Cj first already doesn't recommend Sp 13:50:51 <|amethyst> spee is weirder to me than spae... I guess that's from when more earth spells were transmutations 13:51:34 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52:11 yeah, the reason AE not being recommended for Sp is weird is that EE is 13:52:15 !apt sp earth 13:52:15 Sp (SK_EARTH_MAGIC)=-1 13:52:16 !apt sp air 13:52:17 Sp (SK_AIR_MAGIC)=-1 13:52:51 <|amethyst> also 13:52:57 <|amethyst> !apt sp charms 13:52:57 Sp (SK_CHARMS)=4! 13:53:00 <|amethyst> !apt sp transmutations 13:53:00 Sp (SK_TRANSMUTATIONS)=3! 13:53:17 <|amethyst> if you're looking at other schools in the starting book 13:53:31 these aren't symmetric, as I see Na doesn't recommend Cj but Cj recommends Na 13:54:17 there was that spreadsheet that elliptic made when doing this 13:54:30 might have comments about some of those choices 13:56:04 I see 8 species that recommend AE 13:57:04 and 11 that recommend Cj 13:57:11 Te is probably one of them 13:57:13 I'm really not sure 13:58:01 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:58:55 I'm guessing the thinking was "you can stab with dazzling spray" and "you can stab with petrify" 13:59:23 however, you can stab with meph, or summons, and Wz/Su isn't recommended 13:59:24 ...petrify? 13:59:28 -!- speranza has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 13:59:30 oh you mean for EE 13:59:40 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:59:43 yeah, that's why I suspect Cj and EE are recommended for Sp 14:01:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:01:22 i don't think dazzling spray existed when the current recommendations were made? 14:01:27 not sure though 14:01:32 i think it did exist 14:01:42 SpWz should've been recommended 14:01:45 that is a sky classic 14:01:54 maybe, crawltime all blurs together for me past a few months ago 14:02:02 everything happened forever ago 14:02:36 <|amethyst> the current recommendations are fairly new 14:02:39 <|amethyst> %git 3acc414d 14:02:39 07elliptic02 * 0.14-a0-2629-g3acc414: New species/background recommendations. 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 1 file, 246+ 496-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3acc414d9ce8 14:02:57 <|amethyst> %git 109aa9c8 14:02:58 07DracoOmega02 {elliptic} * 0.12-a0-1854-g109aa9c: Add Dazzling Spray spell 10(2 years, 6 months ago, 10 files, 288+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/109aa9c8dd81 14:03:07 only a year! 14:03:13 <|amethyst> oh, I guess they're closer than from then to now 14:03:25 <|amethyst> I was thinking newcj was 0.11 or so 14:03:29 -!- Frelus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:14:24 -!- husanu0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16:37 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:38 The build was fixed. (master - 695b0fe #2882 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/68314849 14:16:38 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:16:48 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:20:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:28:54 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:11 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:13 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 14:38:15 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:38:53 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:53 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:14 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:00:09 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:05:00 anyone have any thoughts on https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=species_ideas ? 15:05:21 -!- seriallo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:23 -!- seriallos has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:09:19 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:13:51 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:17:37 -!- seriallo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:12 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:19:28 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:10 Inaccessible room in Crypt after ctele removal 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9814 by Yermak 15:33:03 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:41:38 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:49:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:51:32 Demonic ancestry: buggy note passed 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9815 by Yermak 15:52:32 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:16 -!- Guest53409 is now known as Wensley 16:06:39 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:07:21 -!- pikaro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:33 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:18 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:15:34 -!- Fusha has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:17:57 Wensley: that was for you 16:20:33 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:21:45 -!- siepu_ is now known as siepu 16:22:55 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 16:23:01 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: This is not a desk. 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Use !messages to read them. 18:05:34 Wensley: you're the catoplebas guy right 18:05:38 I know it was one of the w guys 18:06:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:17 !lg . 18:06:18 783. ZChris13 the Destroyer (L14 HECj of Sif Muna), mangled by a catoblepas on Lair:5 on 2015-06-25 20:17:40, with 46664 points after 21353 turns and 2:42:58. 18:06:42 mmm, delicious 18:08:35 -!- GauHelldragon2 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:24 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1435-geafbe2f (34) 18:10:13 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:11:06 -!- BlackGyver_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:11:13 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 18:16:03 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:16:11 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:19:04 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:19:45 hm 18:20:07 another game is already in progress using this save! 18:21:13 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 18:22:09 -!- xcourier has quit [Client Quit] 18:22:14 GauBot (L6 VSBe) (D:4) 18:23:12 yay 18:23:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:27:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:22 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:32:49 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:34:57 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:38:56 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:25 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:25 -!- giantbat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:45:25 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:25 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:25 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:25 -!- wizzzargh has quit [Client Quit] 18:45:25 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:46:09 -!- Silas is now known as Guest35532 18:46:27 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:47:09 -!- fazisi has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:47:16 -!- Guest35532 is now known as fazisi 18:47:29 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:47:55 -!- omniscient has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:47:56 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:47:56 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:48:56 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:37 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01:40 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:03:45 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:04:52 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:23 -!- DDFig has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:06:33 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:12:27 Weird door placement in Zot vault 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9816 by Yermak 19:17:23 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:49 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 19:19:50 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:23:21 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:23:53 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:24:52 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:26:20 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:31:01 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:37:36 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:39:22 -!- Wendol has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:51:52 -!- Silas is now known as Guest10403 19:53:47 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:12:02 -!- ShopKeeper has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:12:53 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 20:15:47 -!- emikaela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:17:46 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:21:14 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:15 The build was broken. (master - eafbe2f #2883 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/68391291 20:21:15 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:24:54 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:25:05 -!- Efaferal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:26:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:43:11 -!- Ququman_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45:07 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:46 !tell marvinpa if corrosion is now -4 should the status light be updated since it counts in -3 increments? 20:46:47 chequers: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 20:56:13 -!- DDFig_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:02:13 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:04:02 Adjusting (=) an item to the same letter displays item x2 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9817 by josh 21:06:41 i think the answer to that is yes 21:06:44 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 21:07:57 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:09:06 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:51 !tell marvinpa http://sprunge.us/iVXX 21:09:51 chequers: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 21:09:58 there's a patch for anyone else who could commit it 21:10:34 good 21:13:45 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:20 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:18:28 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:29 does that make corrosion 33% worse? 21:20:41 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:24:23 -!- dakonic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:27:31 rast: worse for slaying, less bad for AC 21:27:38 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/afc859bc4a67d7978d0c4a5a23fa1be0e948755c 21:31:56 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:38:24 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:40:27 %git e0bdd66 21:40:27 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-22-ge0bdd66: Fix a crash with cleaving + infusion vs spectral weapons. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0bdd66d849c 21:45:06 -!- copt has quit [] 21:45:31 its a caster buff 21:50:08 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:50:30 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:47 -!- BlackGyver` has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:55:09 berder was wroooonng 22:01:05 FR: corrosion should just be a binary debuff 22:01:15 additional stackings should only extend duration 22:01:32 its too nasty 22:03:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:07:38 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:09:07 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:18 -!- Gurmil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:10:08 sigh. wish this thing handled resize better. (or maybe I should switch back to tiles, which does...) 22:10:37 rast: i like that it stacks 22:10:47 * geekosaur just lost most of his progress on a level by accidentally transferring the workspace to a smaller external monitor, thereby resizing it < 80x24 22:10:55 it stacks about twice. after that you read tele and reset 22:11:01 it just needs to be listed as Corr(N) where N is the number of stacks instead of whatever it is now 22:11:11 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:14 fr 3 stacks of corr give you stasis 22:11:22 -!- bleak_fire_ is now known as redblade_ 22:11:30 -!- redblade_ is now known as bleak_fire_ 22:11:37 and 2 stacks of corr gives you... slow 22:11:47 yes 22:11:52 never don't murder players 22:12:00 how about just refactor all buff to corr 22:12:12 and the amount of stacks you have determine how many nasty effects you get 22:12:15 *all debuffs 22:12:59 -!- Hosg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:14:10 <_miek> it should stack logarithmically 22:14:59 _miek I agree with that 22:15:09 theres already a weak diminshing returns effect 22:15:23 slight chance of negating a stacking if you have a lot on already 22:15:31 <_miek> hmm 22:15:33 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:15:37 but by the time that's having any kind of measurable effect you're screwed 22:15:42 <_miek> even though I proposed it I'm not sure I agree 22:15:52 <_miek> corrosion only seems to really matter once you're up to -12 or -15 + 22:16:09 maybe if you only ever play guys with 40 AC and +9 two handers 22:16:10 <_miek> if its logarithmic it should get you to similar levels after 3-4 stacks 22:16:19 <_miek> well true 22:16:36 belive me its a lot more noticable if you're with a quick blade or even a normal one handed 22:16:37 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:19:13 ontoclasm: we don't murder players, they have it coming 22:20:19 mm 22:20:26 vigilante justice 22:22:07 -!- Cheburashka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:25:21 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:26:15 murdering plays 22:26:26 so much more satisifying than just kiling their characters 22:29:41 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:32:10 -!- bleak_fire_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:21 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:39:13 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:48:25 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:52:11 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:53:30 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:54:14 -!- ohyou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:15 ??servers 22:55:15 servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cszo}; EU: {cdo}, {cue}, {cxc}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo} 22:55:42 oh. looks like cbro has been demoted 22:55:48 ??cbro 22:55:48 cbro[1/4]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 22:58:06 there's some others missing from there (cbz?) 22:58:10 ??cbzz 22:58:10 CBZZ[1/1]: http://crawl.buzz - NJ, USA. Run by syndicus. 22:58:38 !!serverstats 22:58:43 !serverstats 22:59:20 4423026 games for *: 1816638x cao [28668], 1019699x cdo [14510], 1014049x cszo [11228], 182085x cue [3018], 178317x ckr [2317], 79973x cbro [2312], 35252x cxc [1000], 44468x cwz [929], 24437x rhf [693], 19157x lld [339], 8951x cpo [323] 22:59:50 !serverstats recent 22:59:58 929833 games for * (recent): 290750x cao [7891], 277546x cszo [4308], 62529x cbro [1941], 58821x cue [1540], 76578x ckr [1197], 35115x cxc [997], 44248x cwz [920], 60115x cdo [342], 8951x cpo [323], 15180x lld [310] 23:00:20 yay third place! also. wow we have a lot of servers now 23:00:28 we need that central auth db 23:00:43 Weapon attack delay description does not take speed brand into account 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9818 by josh 23:02:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:03:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:03:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:11 -!- gressup is now known as gressup|sleep 23:21:20 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:22:29 -!- Tpain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:28:35 -!- Ryzor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:33:39 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:35:56 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:38:39 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:31 -!- greensna1k is now known as greensnark 23:47:03 !lg * lld recent 23:47:04 15181. radinms the Destroyer (L12 DsCj of Vehumet), slain by a blink frog on Lair:6 on 2015-06-26 03:38:47, with 26566 points after 23243 turns and 0:55:40. 23:47:15 !cmd !serverstats 23:47:16 Command: !serverstats => !lg * s=src x=cdist(name) o=cdist(name) 23:47:54 !lg * cdo recent x=cdist(name) 23:47:56 60115 games for * (cdo recent): cdist(name)=342 23:48:04 wow 23:48:51 hm, how to show games per player, per server? 23:49:16 s=name,src 23:49:22 well 23:49:24 not quite 23:49:43 !lg * x=cdist(name) s=src 23:49:55 !lg * recent x=cdist(name) s=src 23:50:19 4423083 games for *: 1816656x cao [28668], 1019699x cdo [14510], 1014060x cszo [11230], 182089x cue [3018], 178317x ckr [2317], 79983x cbro [2312], 44475x cwz [929], 35257x cxc [1000], 24437x rhf [693], 19158x lld [339], 8952x cpo [323] 23:50:27 929891 games for * (recent): 290768x cao [7891], 277557x cszo [4310], 76578x ckr [1197], 62540x cbro [1941], 60115x cdo [342], 58825x cue [1540], 44255x cwz [920], 35120x cxc [997], 15181x lld [310], 8952x cpo [323] 23:50:48 but that's exactly what !serverstats does anyhow 23:51:32 !lg * recent x=cdist(name) s=src o=cdist(name) 23:51:39 929891 games for * (recent): 290768x cao [7891], 277557x cszo [4310], 62540x cbro [1941], 58825x cue [1540], 76578x ckr [1197], 35120x cxc [997], 44255x cwz [920], 60115x cdo [342], 8952x cpo [323], 15181x lld [310] 23:52:11 oh, if you really want per player, then yeah s=src,name, but that's a pretty large amount of data 23:52:22 don't think you can get meaningful results over irc