00:00:00 -!- omniscient has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:00:16 the souls of those who die in the abyss are trapped there forever, eventually coalescing & merging into twisted mockeries of their former selves. 00:02:05 <|amethyst> sounds good, ship it 00:03:29 (: 00:03:47 <|amethyst> s/ship it/I &/ 00:04:14 (: (: (: 00:08:00 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:15:01 they're from the deep elf death magi in abyss obviously 00:17:13 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17:59 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:26 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:22:31 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:23:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:51 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:24:21 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:26:36 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1409-ge6d9485 (34) 00:27:27 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:29:20 -!- sinusoidal_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:38:14 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:40:38 -!- Fusha has quit [] 00:43:36 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:43:42 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:55:26 -!- agentgt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:57:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:05:24 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:09:08 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:28 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:35 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1409-ge6d9485 (34) 01:11:39 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 01:12:58 fr merge brilliance and eos 01:13:49 the +12 noonstar of breos 01:15:40 i think eos is better flavour than brilliance 01:15:51 just eos + halo 01:15:56 ??brilliance[2 01:15:56 eveningstar of brilliance[1/1]: The +1 eveningstar of Brilliance {holy, rN+ AC+5 Int+5 SInv Stlth-}. Free {halo} on equip! 01:15:58 ??eos 01:15:58 eos[1/1]: +11 unrandart morningstar, {elec, -Tele rElec SInv} 01:17:12 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:17:12 or perhaps they should be better flavoured as two different types of star 01:24:03 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:25:15 fr: some kind of evening star with distortion and another weird gimmick called "wretched star" 01:25:49 maybe it could be a unique dancing weapon 01:26:44 <|amethyst> +1 to an unrand that can only be obtained by defeating it in combat 01:27:14 <|amethyst> or breathing purple drac breath, I guess 01:27:51 oh, does that work on ordinary dancing weapons? 01:27:57 stick it in elf:2 10% of the time 01:28:16 what sort of weapon would it be? I'm thinking magic related so a lajatang 01:29:08 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29:21 how are lajatangs magic related? 01:29:54 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:29:59 the one unique who always has a laj doesn't have spells 01:30:13 mages always use them :) 01:30:13 <|amethyst> I don't know if the purple drac breath thing works or not, but it should 01:30:23 mages definitely don't always use laj 01:30:25 <|amethyst> they do share a skill with magical staves 01:30:32 they probably use demon blades and tridents a lot more 01:30:38 since those are 1h 01:30:41 yes i said always 01:30:50 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:52 gammafunk: it has a funky name 01:30:55 -> magic 01:30:58 haha 01:31:06 I can relate to funky reasoning 01:31:24 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:31 it was animated by an african botono doctor -> lajatang of the botono makes a return!! 01:31:40 <|amethyst> they should make a weapon that fits in one hand and has two buttons and a wheel in the middle 01:31:46 <|amethyst> they can call it the lajatech 01:31:57 like in star wars? 01:32:13 I think that's called a lawnmower |amethyst 01:32:39 c:dda has a chainsaw lajatang 01:32:40 <|amethyst> I think I've either been cutting my grass wrong 01:32:46 <|amethyst> or your mouse is much cooler than mine 01:33:56 You see here the +10 lajatang "lawnmower" {slicing, PlantSlaying, Gas-3, Oil-1} 01:34:44 <|amethyst> @?? sigmund name:lawnmower_man 01:34:49 lawnmower man (08@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 30 | AC/EV: 2/11 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 223 | Sp: throw flame (3d5), invisibility, magic dart (3d4), confuse | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:34:49 <|amethyst> %?? sigmund name:lawnmower_man 01:35:07 oh yeah, I guess a scythe is even more appropriate 01:35:12 true 01:39:12 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:39:53 ok it's going to be a hammer with enough plusses to make it useful, because the hammer unrand tile is beautiful and you rejected my yiuf patch 01:44:55 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:47:08 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:50:47 <|amethyst> Could reuse Singing Sword code 01:50:52 <|amethyst> for the Emcee Hammer 01:52:29 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:52:56 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:59:47 :D 02:11:38 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:12:41 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:13:11 does enemy attack speed depend on the weapon they wield? or is it purely based on their speed 02:14:54 -!- titanjones has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:16:00 their speed plus the weapon's base delay minus 10 divided by 2 02:16:12 or something close to that 02:16:56 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:19:07 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:15 -!- Yoder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:22:40 hence equip your beogh allies with 1h polearms 02:22:48 and shields 02:23:30 yes 02:25:21 how are item names generated? 02:25:44 i can see the text logic in dat/database/rand* but I can't see where the code calls into that 02:26:33 <|amethyst> !source make_artefact_name 02:26:33 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/artefact.cc#l1206 02:27:23 <|amethyst> _artefact_name_lookup 02:27:46 <|amethyst> (make_artefact_name has a few lookups of its own for appearance) 02:28:11 appearance meaning unidentified items? 02:28:15 <|amethyst> you're looking for calls to getRandNameString 02:28:16 <|amethyst> yeah 02:29:37 thanks, I think that's where i should be looking 02:30:01 <|amethyst> replace_name_parts might also be relevant 02:30:26 <|amethyst> that's where @player_name@ and so on are substituted 02:30:46 nah, I want to use different lookup keys sometimes 02:30:57 <|amethyst> ? 02:31:42 i mentioned this a loong time ago, think I'm capable of coding it now 02:31:54 more apropos artefact names based on artefact properties 02:32:16 so like, elec hammer gets called "Storm" more than it gets called "Frozen Wastes" 02:33:33 <|amethyst> I think the difficult part there probably won't be coding 02:33:42 <|amethyst> but reorganising the database accordingly 02:35:23 yeah, probably 02:40:58 <|amethyst> would be nice to have the ability to specify keywords for combinations of abilities, but then you have the horror that is mon-speak.cc 02:42:08 heh yeah, it would be nice to get complicated, but I was thinking of just a lookup based on brand for weapons, and a few interesting props for armour/jewelery 02:42:32 probably the more apropos names would only get used 50% of the time too, since their database size will be smaller 02:43:19 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:43:57 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:50:17 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:56:37 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:03:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:05:13 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:08:30 -!- Kraito has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:09:35 -!- Guest49820 is now known as SwissStopwatch 03:16:43 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:22:19 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1409-ge6d9485 (34) 03:30:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:31:50 -!- Argent has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:34:55 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:42:57 critique my code 03:44:45 !tell ohyou should be fixed now. Just a minor mix-up in the files. 03:44:45 TZer0: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:44:45 TZer0: OK, I'll let ohyou know. 03:46:50 New branch created: pull/73 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/73 03:46:50 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/73 * 0.17-a0-1410-gac7401e: Add framework for brand-based artefact weapon lookup. 10(18 hours ago, 2 files, 59+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ac7401e2c4b2 03:47:36 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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A mantis report wouldn't be terribly different and has a worse interface anyhow 04:47:56 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:00:19 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:00:19 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 05:02:01 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:14:18 -!- quik has quit [Quit: Esa telaraña, que cuelga en mi habitación, no la quito, no hace nada, solo ocupa su rincon] 05:16:20 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:31:14 -!- yottam has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:31:54 -!- Action013 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:34:36 -!- Kraito has quit [Quit: Must Feed] 05:34:55 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:36:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:34 New branch created: pull/74 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/74 05:48:34 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/74 * 0.17-a0-1410-g0c056c4: Tweak the Sack of Spiders 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c056c47fc8d 06:00:37 -!- edgefigaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:03:30 what's this?! 06:04:55 this is my most tryhard commit so far 06:06:25 I have to really look at it in more detail, but it probably already belongs in good_patch_submission_examples.txt 06:08:59 ty 06:09:50 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:12:13 @??ghost_moth 06:12:17 @??wolf_spider 06:12:32 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:12:41 oh, gretell is offline 06:12:46 ghost moth (06y) | Spd: 12 | HD: 13 | HP: 58-88 | AC/EV: 8/10 | Dam: 1802(drain stat), 1802(drain stat), 1204(strong poison:47-84) | fly | Res: 06magic(100), 02cold, 03poison | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 1695 | Sp: draining gaze [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 06:12:46 %??ghost_moth 06:12:51 wolf spider (16s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 11 | HP: 45-65 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 25, 1508(poison:22-44) | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 565 | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 06:12:51 %??wolf_spider 06:13:20 ...large 06:14:23 I guess cold resistant because "thing with ghost in its name" 06:15:03 yeah i was not aware that they had any resistances other than poison 06:16:53 I don't quite understand those damage ranges for af_poison and af_strong_poison either, will have to look that up 06:17:23 maybe its how much deterministic poison damage is inflicted 06:18:09 that is what i always assumed 06:18:33 i mean it's definitely not instant 06:18:44 and iirc it didn't have numbers in old versions 06:18:54 just pois, strong pois, nasty pois 06:23:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:26:46 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:20 -!- antigone- is now known as bd- 06:36:41 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 06:41:39 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:11 -!- FlowRiser has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:11 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:11 -!- pintc has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:11 -!- Lasty_ has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:12 -!- Kalma has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:12 -!- socks_ has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:12 -!- roxton has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:13 -!- _sk has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:13 -!- vonhedlund has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:13 -!- jazmu has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:13 -!- Cenon has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:13 -!- speranza_ has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:13 -!- Rjs has quit [*.net *.split] 06:43:23 -!- pintc has quit [Changing host] 06:43:35 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:42 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:11 -!- roxton` is now known as roxton 06:45:13 -!- flamoot has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:45:19 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:52:57 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:57 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Changing host] 06:52:57 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 07:01:32 gammafunk: yeah, i wanted eg marvin's feedback and we don't overlap in irc often 07:05:28 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:12 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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PleasingFungus is wracked with pain! 10:52:37 ouch 10:52:58 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:00 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 11:03:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:49 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:07:51 !haunt PleasingFungus 11:07:51 Grunt points at PleasingFungus and mumbles some strange words. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The freezing wraith hits PleasingFungus! x3 The phantasmal warrior hits PleasingFungus! x5 11:07:55 noo 11:08:47 -!- sanka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:08:49 -!- coledot has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:09 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:28:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:32:38 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:34 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 11:36:04 !torment someone 11:36:04 kvaak gestures. kvaak is wracked with pain! 11:36:16 sneaky bastard 11:41:37 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:44:22 -!- Gorgo__ is now known as Gorgo 11:46:13 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:50:02 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1410-g4bd4a8a: Make the Crown of Eternal Torment actually anger good gods (#9803). 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4bd4a8ab2f3b 11:50:02 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1411-g06ff558: Tone back Maxwell's cage a bit (mrmyers). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06ff558a059b 11:50:40 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:50:51 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as Bcddren 11:50:54 -!- Bcddren is now known as Bcadren 11:52:21 that idiom isn't quite right 11:52:33 * wheals has not gotten much sleep in the past few days 11:52:37 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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The bush looks even sicker. 13:38:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:49 %git :/yaccage 13:38:49 07|amethyst02 * 0.15.0-28-ge8bc79c: Regenerate prebuilt yaccage 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e8bc79cbe758 13:39:00 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:49 -!- Kraito has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:41:21 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:14 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 13:44:37 -!- Argent has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:06 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:10:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:23:58 -!- mmazing has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:25:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:27:55 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:35:53 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:41:16 Unstable branch on crawl.buzz updated to: 0.17-a0-1411-g06ff558 (34) 14:43:47 -!- jefkin has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:43:58 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:39 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04:29 it's kinda weird that if you polymorph a dude into a non-shapeshifter it leaves a dude corpse, but if you polymorph a dude into a shapeshifter it leaves a shapeshifter corpse 15:05:19 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:08:37 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:10:41 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:11:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:14:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:15:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:20:15 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:41 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:25:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:26:07 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:35:02 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:36:23 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:40:32 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:47:08 clearly shapeshifters should leave dude corpses if you poly them into dudes 15:50:15 you cant polymorph shapeshifters into dudes anyway 15:51:38 it was the big limitation of scumming ally polymorph, dudes would always end up as shapeshifters eventually 15:53:10 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:54:20 did Gretell pass away? :'( 15:58:54 -!- Shaaah has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:59:10 -!- umrain has quit [Client Quit] 16:02:26 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:07 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:08:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:09:30 -!- wamaral has quit [Changing host] 16:15:42 -!- Fusha has quit [] 16:15:47 hm 16:15:58 i don't understand how @player_only@ ever worked? 16:17:16 oh i see, _invalid_msg 16:26:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:27:18 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:30:25 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:32:09 i suppose the problem is that do_mon_str_replacements and mon-speak.cc have different checks for whether the target is the player or not 16:32:18 AFAICT 16:35:13 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:44:45 <|amethyst> minmay: hm, I can't reproduce that 16:45:20 <|amethyst> You kill the fire drake! 16:45:21 <|amethyst> The goblin returns to its original shape as it dies. 16:46:07 <|amethyst> (and likewise if I kill it while still in 'shapeshifter' form) 16:47:24 <|amethyst> but there could be some special case where the timing is different: if you give the monster ENCH_SHAPESHIFTER before actually changing its monster type, it will revert to a shapeshifter corpse 16:57:42 -!- urechis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:59:23 -!- ohyou has left ##crawl-dev 17:00:18 -!- rwork has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:04:51 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:05:49 -!- Shados_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:23 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:11:30 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:08 -!- quik has quit [Quit: I can hardly remember how I built my bankroll, but I can't stop thinking about the way I lost it] 17:20:48 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 17:20:58 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:32:33 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:35:08 -!- Shados has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:38:32 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:39:46 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:47:05 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:23 <|amethyst> the process was still running but apparently had lost its connection 17:47:34 <|amethyst> I killed it and re-ran ./gretell.pl and there we go 17:47:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:49:05 trapped in the ovenn? 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20:45:31 my niche for clubs is "D:1 and can't find anything better" 20:45:36 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:45:51 |amethyst: whenever yiuf doesn't spawn :) 20:46:40 <|amethyst> club is better though 20:46:42 i kinda like the idea of buffing hammer, not so much the club thing 20:46:50 something else I considered was hardcoding a 6 aut mindelay for hammer, which would be nice but I can't see how to do it without much complexity 20:47:00 *hammer/club 20:47:14 i'm not sure that it makes much sense for hammer to be easier to handle than a whip though either 20:47:24 <|amethyst> I wouldn't mind buffing club or whip, so there's some reason for the unskilled to sometimes choose that over a short sword or spear 20:47:35 what's wrong with whip vs short sword 20:47:40 they're the same weapon basically right now 20:47:42 <|amethyst> I just think these numeric adjustments go too far 20:47:56 <|amethyst> DrKe: ssword has +2 base to-hit and can stab 20:48:14 was there a time when all whips had reach or am i making that up 20:48:30 <|amethyst> there was not 20:48:43 well strictly at 0 skill yeah, but if you are investing 20:48:45 <|amethyst> but then it's a spear with -2 to-hit 20:48:52 you might not want to go short blades 20:49:03 <|amethyst> right, if you're going to be training a skill that's different 20:49:13 <|amethyst> but I mean, for a starting conjurer to pick up 20:49:24 is there a simple way to override mindelay for certain weapons beyond hardcoding stuff in weapon_min_delay? 20:49:27 whip could go to delay 10? 20:49:45 <|amethyst> hm 20:49:48 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:13 -!- Dixlet_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:29 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:36 because it owuld be cool if clubs could reach mindelay at like skill level 6, but be unchanged from current 20:50:37 %git :/fur 20:50:37 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-1196-g6e8685c: Update volcano weapon loot a little further 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 8+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e8685c94020 20:50:45 <|amethyst> I in principle like buffing club slightly, I just think this goes too far 20:50:54 i'm happy to agree 20:51:12 <|amethyst> hammer I wouldn't touch 20:51:25 <|amethyst> or maybe make it slightly faster, but 20:51:40 <|amethyst> hammer isn't supposed to be a good weapon 20:51:51 it's a tool 20:51:55 and club is? 20:52:04 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 20:52:06 my secret goal is to change acquirement to occasionally give hammers, and when it does, the +ench is huuuge 20:52:32 -!- _ly^ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:52:35 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:52:55 I don't particularly want to see any of the M&F weapons change, but if clubs are going to change I'd like to see their damage and min-delay increase, so that they're a slightly higher damage but still poor weapon 20:53:02 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 20:53:10 like a strictly worse mace? 20:53:16 yes 20:53:22 or maybe strictly-worse flail 20:53:38 that would have an effect on d:1-2 monsters though 20:53:44 club is already basically as good as dagger at +0 btw 20:54:01 yeah, and also significantly better than unarmed 20:54:32 its useful if you have literally nothinge lse 20:54:53 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:55:11 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:41 DrKe: yeah, it would 20:56:03 the effect i think wouldn't be good 20:56:05 more variance 20:56:07 minmay: if you're wielding a club on d:1 and a monster drops a dagger, you don't switch? 20:56:16 DrKe: yeah, I'm not actually advocating for any change 20:56:30 gotcha 20:56:44 -!- Kraito has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:57:20 Lasty: I suppose I should have added "if your species has no aux attacks" 20:57:28 <|amethyst> hm... delay 9 club, would mean occasional double-attacks from early goblins 20:57:56 making club the second fastest weapon in the game just seems really weird to me 20:58:02 <|amethyst> yeah 20:58:15 ??club 20:58:15 club[1/2]: (maces & flails; +3 acc / 5 dam / 1.3 base delay / 0.6 min delay). A heavy piece of wood. Bad. 20:58:17 ??dagger 20:58:17 dagger[1/1]: (short blades; +6 acc / 4 dam / 1.0 base delay / 0.5 min delay). A double-edged fighting knife with a sharp point. Notable for getting a larger stabbing bonus than any other weapon. Doesn't chop hydra heads. 20:58:42 like, why should clubs be a whole bunch better than daggers? clubs are more common 20:59:08 probably should stay 6 aut mindelay 21:00:06 <|amethyst> I wouldn't worry about mindelay 21:00:28 to me, those stats suggest that clubs are considerably worse than daggers right now -- lower accuracy, slower, only the tiniest bit more damage 21:00:53 <|amethyst> if you have skill for mindelay on a club, you have better things to use than a club 21:01:00 yes 21:01:03 <|amethyst> even a faster club 21:01:13 <|amethyst> s/.*/even if clubs are faster than currently/ 21:01:19 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:01:38 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:02:05 well, pain-branding 21:02:41 and elec/disto, basically if it has the same mindelay as whip you end up with the earlier weapon being better at lower skill 21:03:11 it seems weird to intentionally make clubs a very strong target for pain brands. Nothing about clubs say "this should have synergy with pain brand" to me . . . 21:03:58 agree 21:04:03 Lasty: I don't think they're considerably worse, dangerous early monsters tend to not have 0 aC 21:04:07 although nothing about whips says the same either 21:04:16 <|amethyst> err? 21:04:19 whips aren't a very strong target for pain brands 21:04:20 whips and pain sound like they go hand in hand to me 21:04:21 <|amethyst> whips and pain 21:04:23 <|amethyst> yeah 21:04:30 <|amethyst> that's kind of what they're for :) 21:04:36 you know what they say 21:04:38 what is a good mnf to pain brand if not a whip 21:04:42 oh 21:04:47 clubs and stones may break my bones but whips and pain excites me 21:04:48 well if you are using M&F then sure, they're a good one 21:05:03 minmay: at the time when I'm choosing between dagger and club, "dangerous" enemies include all enemies 21:05:06 but like, spear of pain is better 21:05:11 i mean sure 21:05:14 short sword as well 21:05:24 cause of death: fistfighting a bat 21:05:27 <|amethyst> make whip, not club, delay 9 21:05:30 but sometimes you are using whip because you found a whip of elec or whatever 21:05:31 <|amethyst> :P 21:05:39 Lasty: yeah but are you thinking of giant newts when you make that choice 21:05:47 ofc 21:06:12 it would be nice if you could set arbitrary base & min delay for each weapon, but that's a pretty big change just to improve differentiation at the low-end 21:06:13 just bias clubs toward distortion and chaos 21:06:20 instantly useful 21:06:38 yeah it would sure be great to memorize the min delay values for all 50 weapons 21:06:42 clubs get no brands atm, although I am tempted to submit a patch to make 1/200 of them chaos... 21:06:49 minmay: i fixed that last week, remember 21:06:52 i like the idea of chaos clubs 21:07:02 <|amethyst> just because we show mindelay in xv doesn't mean we need to go making it more complicated 21:07:10 i'm sure xom could convince floorgod to throw a couple out there 21:07:11 chequers: yeah it would sure be great to check ?/I for all 50 weapons 21:07:23 more like ia, but I take your point 21:07:45 maybe I want to know it for a weapon that isn't in my inventory... 21:07:59 there's probably already at least one vault that makes clubs of chaos 21:08:14 yes, a xom one 21:08:22 dat/des/altar/overflow.des:MONS: orc; club ego:chaos ident:type / orc; dagger ego:chaos ident:type 21:08:26 dat/des/altar/overflow.des:MONS: orc; spear ego:chaos ident:type / gnoll; club ego:chaos ident:type 21:08:40 <|amethyst> shouldn't the gnoll get the spear? 21:08:44 kobolds with distortion clubs 21:08:45 dat/des/branches/abyss.des: giant spiked club ego:chaos ident:type | \ 21:08:47 do those count as clubs 21:09:04 dat/des/branches/zot.des: randart scythe ego:chaos | any weapon randart ego:chaos w:4 | \ 21:09:11 can this make a randart club 21:09:35 there's also a shop that ought to be able to make chaos clubs 21:09:42 so yeah that design space is covered 21:10:09 (Why are there like 5 vaults that make chaos clubs) 21:10:23 because it's a grreat idea 21:10:35 if you say so, tony the tiger 21:11:14 -!- quik has quit [Quit: Get back to where you once belonged] 21:11:19 Is there already a randart club that has confusion-branded attacks? 21:11:37 oh god 21:12:07 minmay's praying for it, so it's probably a good idea 21:13:17 -!- seriallos has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:14:32 chequers: as someone who likes early game, I do not think that clubs should be any better for players; they are likely the first weapon you find and already much better than unarmed 21:16:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:29 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:19:56 PleasingFungus: looking at branch exorcism, things look good (though i think init_servitor_monster should be static and _init_servitor_monster) 21:20:18 o 21:20:54 compiling probably issu 21:20:55 yes 21:20:58 ed a warning about it 21:21:10 hm 21:21:12 let' 21:21:13 s see 21:21:48 mon-util.cc: In function ‘void _load_lich_spells(monster&)’: 21:21:49 mon-util.cc:2524:6: warning: no previous declaration for ‘void _load_lich_spells(monster&)’ [-Wmissing-declarations] 21:21:49 void _load_lich_spells(monster &lich) 21:21:49 ^ 21:22:02 (from g++ on travis; clang does not) 21:22:03 merfolk should get their water bonuses when standing over a fountain 21:22:42 er 21:22:46 wait, that's something else 21:22:59 since there is enough water in one for a kraken to live in it 21:23:04 anyhoo that means _load_lich_spells should be static 21:24:35 PleasingFungus: i guess ugly things are the next low-hanging fruit? the only randomised state they have is the colour 21:24:43 yep 21:24:54 ugly things, then weapons, then pan demons, then ghosts 21:25:13 none have strong technical challenges, I think, just a lot of props 21:25:22 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 21:25:43 -!- dakonic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:26:28 be warned: the ugly thing code is heavily autological 21:28:38 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:29:25 -!- Kraito has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:29:47 @??ugly thing name:ugly_code col:blue 21:29:47 buggy ugly thing (02u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 12 | HP: 54-79 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 17 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 557 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 21:30:00 oh, Gretell's back 21:30:39 -!- Kraito has quit [Client Quit] 21:30:49 minmay: fair enough 21:31:35 re: fountains. I always get annoyed they have the same icon on the minimap as altars. is there any reason they should exist at all? 21:32:05 decoration 21:32:53 well. that's the reason they do exist 21:33:26 maybe that's not a good enough reason for them to exist, though i think it is (not having 4 different types would probably be good though) 21:35:57 -!- coledot has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:20 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:40 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:10 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:28 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:30 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:49 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:51 shop prices may still need adjustment 21:46:53 d - a +2 scythe of flaming (208 gold) 21:46:56 f - a +0 broad axe of freezing (110 gold) 21:47:12 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47:28 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:04 i - a -2 executioner's axe of speed (52 gold) 21:48:28 !source shopping.cc 21:48:28 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc 21:48:29 well that's not really a concern, since it literally can't generate 21:48:42 yeah 21:49:18 apparently scythes are more valuable than GSCs 21:50:00 GSCs cost nothing because they're not going to be enchanted or branded and you can get them pretty easily 21:51:05 indeed 21:51:17 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:51:40 apparently weapon plus is just $50 (later scaled by greed) per plus 21:52:53 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:11 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:09 broad axe should probably just not be in the same category as weapons many times as common as it 21:55:04 I don't think the weapon plus thing is a problem 21:59:24 finding bargains is fun! 22:01:49 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02:32 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:03:17 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:38 hey I have a FR 22:03:46 high level uniques should no longer spawn with or pick up trash wands 22:04:05 PleasingFungus should implement that IMO. 22:04:10 high level monsters in general actually 22:04:15 rast: good news 22:04:27 like, I just had a fight with boris where he zapped magic dart 15 times 22:04:40 and if he had cast 15 more spells, I would have been in trouble (ie, had to use consumables) 22:04:45 !lm rast x=cv 22:04:45 12259. [2015-06-23 02:02:41] [cv=0.16] rast the Warrior (L23 HaCK of Dithmenos) killed Boris on turn 62782. (Vaults:3) 22:04:50 I found your problem 22:04:53 ah ok 22:04:56 so it's in trunk 22:04:58 cool cool 22:05:07 (-; 22:05:11 TYVM 22:05:14 looking forward to it 22:05:30 not looking forward to entrophy weavers :( 22:06:13 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:34 can I have an mulligan FR then? 22:06:43 boris should swpan in pan or abyss 22:06:58 -!- Sprort has quit [Client Quit] 22:07:04 so you can actually fight him more than 1-2 times per game 22:07:52 fr: megaboris 22:08:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:08:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:08:35 sure, he should gian hd each time 22:08:38 gain 22:09:06 %git boriscaling 22:09:06 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3107-gdb683fe: Fix debug_monspells tests for newboris 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 11+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db683fedd00e 22:09:33 03PleasingFungus02 07[exorcise] * 0.17-a0-1414-g2445abf: Merge branch 'master' into exorcise 10(49 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2445abf37bb5 22:09:33 03PleasingFungus02 07[exorcise] * 0.17-a0-1415-g713541b: Staticalizificatination (wheals) 10(18 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/713541b9f651 22:10:06 -!- Sonny_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:10:41 you forgot to make _load_lich_spells staticalizificatinated 22:11:49 o 22:11:51 did you mention that 22:11:53 !rng copper pink dark 22:11:57 yes, by accident 22:12:14 when i meant to mention the other one 22:12:18 wrong room :/ 22:17:48 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:19:52 -!- DrStalker_ has quit [] 22:21:36 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:22:34 -!- copt has quit [] 22:30:39 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:30:49 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:30:57 -!- AlphaQ_ is now known as AlphaQ 22:34:49 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:10 @??wasp 22:35:10 wasp (08y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 14-29 | AC/EV: 5/14 | Dam: 1304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 126 | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 22:35:27 raven (02b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 6 | HP: 27-39 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Dam: 14, 11 | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(20), 08blind | XP: 260 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 22:35:27 %??raven 22:35:50 @??hornet 22:35:50 hornet (05y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 31-56 | AC/EV: 7/14 | Dam: 2304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 541 | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 22:42:36 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:45:52 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 22:46:25 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:48:32 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:49:20 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:49:22 -!- gressup is now known as gressup|sleep 22:56:13 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:56 -!- Spawnbroker has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:59:37 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:00:40 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:02:02 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:02:54 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:04:10 -!- dienosore has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:04:44 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:44 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:07:32 <|amethyst> ravens had rblind? 23:07:40 <|amethyst> I wonder why 23:08:46 <|amethyst> oh, so do shrikes 23:08:47 <|amethyst> again 23:11:42 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:14:07 -!- ouija has quit [] 23:15:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:20:29 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22:57 Staticalizificatination <-- no german language in commit messages please 23:23:38 PleasingFungus: why do you merge into your dev branches instead of rebase? 23:24:04 (I ask because if you rebase, all your branch-specific commits are the most recent, so it's more easy to track the differences) 23:24:56 didn't want to force push 23:25:01 <|amethyst> because he asked other people to look at it, and we usually don't rewrite history on public branches 23:25:18 I'll rebase it once it's ready to go into master 23:25:18 oh yeah, it's the main repo, not a personal one 23:26:14 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 23:28:16 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:29:28 <|amethyst> you know, we should have made a tag or something that one time kilobyte rewrote that bad merge 23:29:37 <|amethyst> created tag 'how-not-to-do-things' 23:30:23 <|amethyst> I don't remember the details now, but a non-dev contributor had a long-running branch that was eventually merged 23:30:39 <|amethyst> and they had repeatedly merged in master, as is usual 23:30:52 <|amethyst> except that they had an extra commit in their master 23:31:05 <|amethyst> and kept rebasing our master onto theirs 23:31:27 <|amethyst> so every time they did the merge, there was a new copy of every commit from their extra commit to current head 23:31:41 <|amethyst> then someone merged it into trunk without fixing that up 23:31:43 <|amethyst> it was really pretty in gitk 23:34:25 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:37:28 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:35 <|amethyst> in a couple of months, DCSS will be as old as Linley's Dungeon Crawl was when DCSS was released 23:44:06 i'll buy the cake 23:47:24 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:47:46 in other words, at this point there's more soup than stone? 23:56:57 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:56:58 <|amethyst> at this point we can switch from Australian English to Indian English 23:57:33 ! 23:58:42 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1411-g06ff558 (34) 23:59:48 -!- bitcoinbastard_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:55 <|amethyst> - "", " thousand", " million", " billion", " trillion" 23:59:55 <|amethyst> + "", " thousand", " lakh", " crore", " arab"