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I just restarted it 00:18:15 Ratri the Goddess of the Night in robe of Night description potentially conflicts with Dithmenos 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9765 by P1start 00:21:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:22:35 -!- MegaGrubby has quit [] 00:23:03 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:25:29 ah nice 00:26:39 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1360-g37db002 (34) 00:29:06 -!- soadzombi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30:29 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30:43 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:23 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:59 -!- ohyou has quit [Quit: ohyou] 00:52:43 -!- Fusha has quit [] 01:09:46 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 01:10:30 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1360-g37db002 (34) 01:12:01 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:12:25 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:02 worked 01:14:04 "ecu-mart" i just noticed this, nice one 01:19:59 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:18 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:31:15 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:33:38 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:40:15 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:40:32 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:41:21 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 01:44:27 New branch created: pull/61 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/61 01:44:27 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/61 * 0.17-a0-1361-gc514b67: Let Xom avert smite wrath like other gods. 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c514b67fc336 01:48:19 -!- panicbit1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:49:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:50:44 -!- vale has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:52:02 <|amethyst> at the very least, Xom should have a different message there 01:53:23 <|amethyst> but I guess it's hard to do a flavourful one that actually makes sense when it happens 01:54:50 <|amethyst> "My toy!" would be flavourful, except it doesn't make sense unless you know that it was another god's wrath you just avoided 01:56:53 xom can be serious sometimes 01:57:00 other gods are trying to play with his teddy bear 01:59:04 |amethyst: leave my toy alone, okawaru? 01:59:12 or beogh i guess, whatever 01:59:50 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:04:36 nice 02:05:59 -!- vonhedlund has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:06:08 <|amethyst> I guess that kind of defeats the "code simplification" excuse though :) 02:07:09 I admit it, I'm trying to bugg GhCK 02:07:13 *buff 02:07:29 buff...what? 02:07:41 !source make_stringf 02:07:41 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/stringutil.cc#l244 02:09:59 actually, how hard would it be to pull these messages from data? 02:10:04 like monster speech 02:13:03 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16:00 !source god_speaks 02:16:01 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#l2116 02:18:24 <|amethyst> the biggest problem with that is how to get both pieces of data in there 02:18:47 <|amethyst> both the smiting and the protecting god 02:21:17 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus BTW, has @rawlcode posted this? database.cc:672: return "TOO MUCH RECURSION"; 02:21:17 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:21:31 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus or @crawlcode, either one 02:21:32 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:22:02 -!- mnoleg69reagan42 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:22:34 i was thinking of just looking up for xom 02:23:51 <|amethyst> I do kind of wonder if "Xom smite avoided Beogh" would work (particularly, being able to drop both gods when looking up the tag) 02:24:14 <|amethyst> I think if it's going to the DB it makes the most sense for it all to go to the DB 02:24:18 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:24:27 <|amethyst> hm 02:24:48 <|amethyst> you could have it key on the wrathful god, then look up your religion in embedded lua 02:25:13 <|amethyst> but that's just moving code from C++ where it's easy to find to Lua-in-crawldb where it's not 02:25:53 maybe xom can be serious occasionally for the many people who convert TSO -> Xom 02:26:13 <|amethyst> yeah, I'm not set on a special message 02:26:30 <|amethyst> but it sounds weird when Xom talks like the other gods :) 02:26:59 <|amethyst> FR: Xom recite 02:27:27 :) 02:33:11 is it possible to tag a level in a way that the code can see it but not the player? 02:35:13 tag a level? 02:36:24 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:38:12 note that some level is special 02:40:52 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:25 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:52:38 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:53:25 xom.cc:831:13: note: candidate function not viable: no known conversion from 'const item_def *' to 'const item_def' for 1st argument; dereference the argument with * 02:53:43 I want to get the player's weapon as a 'const item_def' -- how do I do this? 02:54:13 I tried you.primary_weapon() which gives the above error, and dereferencing it gives a 'player' 02:56:15 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:57:42 chequers: are you sure you need an item_def instead of an item_def* or item_def&? 02:59:50 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:00:06 at any rate, if you are sure, then dereferencing it does indeed fix the issue: it doesn't give a player. i just tested the following, which compiled without error or warning: const item_def wpn = *you.primary_weapon(); 03:01:15 <|amethyst> but you don't want that 03:01:19 <|amethyst> that makes a copy of the weapon 03:01:28 indeed, as i said he probably doesn't want that 03:01:54 but it is probably useful to clear up whatever confusion came about while trying to do the wrong thing 03:01:54 <|amethyst> const item_def *wpn = you.primary_weapon(); item->plus += 1; 03:02:32 <|amethyst> (where a->b is like (*a).b) 03:03:08 <|amethyst> or you could do const item_def &wpn = *you.primary_weapon(); item.plus += 1; if you really don't like arrows :) 03:03:58 <|amethyst> in C++, unlike most OO languages, normal variables (that aren't of pointer or reference types) actually contain objects, rather than just referring to them 03:04:30 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:05:24 <|amethyst> so when you assign into such a thing, or pass an argument by value, or return by value, etc., you are making copies 03:06:29 <|amethyst> primary_weapon() returns a pointer to the weapon (its memory address), which can be dereferenced with * to give the weapon itself (not a copy of it) 03:06:38 -!- rubinko__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:08:48 <|amethyst> reference variables like const item_def &wpn; are aliases for objects (really they're implemented as a pointer too, but you use it as though it were the original thing, without having to dereference with * or -> as you do with a pointer 03:08:56 <|amethyst> ) 03:11:28 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:12:12 !source _is_chaos_upgradeable 03:12:13 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/xom.cc#l836 03:12:24 basically, I want to pass the player's current weapon into this function ^ 03:12:47 chequers: right, notice that that's not an item_def 03:12:50 it's an item_def& 03:13:04 which is exactly what's returned by you.primary_weapon() 03:13:14 <|amethyst> err 03:13:26 oh 03:13:28 <|amethyst> you.primary_weapon returns a pointer 03:13:31 by *you.primary_weapon() 03:13:37 <|amethyst> yeah 03:13:48 <|amethyst> _is_chaos_upgradable(*you.primary_weapon(), mon); 03:14:09 |amethyst: btw, that function doesn't seem to follow the current crawl style for type declarations, which may be what confused chequers 03:14:17 const item_def& item is how y'all do most things 03:14:30 whereas this is const item_def &item 03:14:49 <|amethyst> hm 03:14:59 <|amethyst> it's not even self-consistent 03:15:15 -!- Senjaii has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:15:39 oh, i see my mistake 03:15:55 I am passing in 'you' as the monster, which generated the error xom.cc:831:13: note: candidate function not viable: no known conversion from 'player' to 'const monster *' for 2nd argument 03:16:09 well, the player is not a monster 03:16:10 and i thought it was still referring to the first argument 03:16:12 <|amethyst> amalloy: I'm not sure that is how we do it usually, both seem to be very frequent 03:16:26 is there a you.as_mon() or something? 03:16:29 |amethyst: i think that's what was in the style guide? at any rate someone told me to do it 03:16:29 <|amethyst> no 03:16:34 <|amethyst> because the player isn't a monster 03:17:04 ah, so I need to write new code 03:17:07 <|amethyst> amalloy: coding_conventions.txt has both even :) 03:17:07 -!- giantbat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:17:58 -!- DC has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:18:17 wellll, it has foo* x more 03:18:18 <|amethyst> amalloy: I personally prefer the C classic style, but I admit it is illogical 03:18:23 same 03:18:39 well. it's not "illogical" 03:18:56 <|amethyst> well, it has its own logic 03:19:32 i recall someone justifying `int foo, *bar;` to me like: "you are declaring two things that are ints: the type of `foo` is int, and the type of `*bar` is int" 03:19:48 which is certainly true 03:19:59 but seems a little perverse 03:21:11 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:21:56 <|amethyst> and then you mix in const 03:22:17 <|amethyst> const int foo, *bar; still makes sense then 03:22:24 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 03:22:26 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1360-g37db002 (34) 03:22:30 <|amethyst> but what about int * const bar; 03:23:18 <|amethyst> and in int foo[3]; foo[3] is definitely *not* an int you should be using :) 03:23:26 hah 03:23:38 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:23:40 but that is its type! the system works! 03:24:02 <|amethyst> true, you can even legally use a pointer to it! 03:25:06 -!- Mottikins__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:31:08 huh. ru can redirect monsters' attacks towards other monsters that are submerged 03:31:20 not a behavior i expected 03:46:18 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:55:48 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:48 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Changing host] 03:55:48 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 03:58:59 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 04:14:17 -!- Ezekiel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:17:43 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:25:00 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:26:28 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:31:59 -!- rophy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:33:05 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:35:48 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:36:21 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:36:41 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:00 Entering in a tele trap with the orb allows controlled teleport 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9766 by nago 04:47:16 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:53:39 heh 04:55:35 -!- shklvsk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:58:34 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:24 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:06:11 -!- Doesnt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:06:20 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:06:34 -!- xcourier has quit [Changing host] 05:07:06 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:15:13 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1361-g4c9cf04: Don't make all instantaneous player teleports controlled (#9766) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c9cf04e9423 05:21:36 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:32:03 -!- dhklvsk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:11 -!- dhklvsk has quit [Client Quit] 05:32:29 -!- shklvsk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:05 Hey, guys! I forgot, is it ok to shaft into restricted vaults? ie guy died to anaconda on D:4. 05:33:07 !lg RitorJet killer=anaconda 05:33:07 1. RitorJet the Charmwright (L2 MfSk), slain by an anaconda on D:4 (grunt_ashenzari_visionary; grunt_ashenzari_visionary_snake) on 2015-06-09 17:39:20, with 17 points after 1064 turns and 0:02:22. 05:36:14 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:37:09 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:45 !log ritorjet killer=aaconda 05:44:46 No games for ritorjet (killer=aaconda). 05:44:57 !log ritorjet killer=anaconda 05:44:58 1. RitorJet, XL2 MfSk, T:1064: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/RitorJet/morgue-RitorJet-20150609-173920.txt 05:45:18 shklvsk_: that's a bug that was fixed in trunk 05:45:41 Ah, great! 05:45:48 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:50:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:52:06 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:53:01 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 05:56:14 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:58:51 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:59:14 -!- shklvsk_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:02:53 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 06:06:08 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:14:44 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:16:21 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:23:21 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:58 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:37:15 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:48:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:49:39 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:01:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 07:02:01 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:46 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:06:50 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:07:25 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07:39 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:07:55 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ is now known as Twiggytwiggytwig 07:13:40 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:14:47 03|amethyst02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-30-g34a7ffa: Don't shaft into teleport closets. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/34a7ffadf9fd 07:18:02 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:21:00 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:22:23 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:23:02 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:46 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:32:22 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:35:25 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 07:37:14 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:39:14 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 07:42:00 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:44:43 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:27 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:50:23 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:59:45 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:59:47 |amethyst: fix ecu-altars 07:59:52 |amethyst: they still hardcode to gozag 08:15:50 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:19:05 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:22:35 -!- dark_star_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:22:41 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22:51 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22:52 -!- _159 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:29:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:16 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:55 dpeg: what about using MR? if you miss your MR check against banishment horribly, you go directly to A:5 08:49:47 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 08:58:59 this is completely random, but trying to play the android version of crawl on a 'droid with a 3" screen and an OSK is hilarious. 09:01:27 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:01:56 Textmode: playing crawl on a 3" screen is going to be a bad time 09:02:40 bh: with the OSK, only about 1" is usable. thats even more fun. 09:03:21 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1362-g64d902d: Don't make all ecumenical altars choose Gozag 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/64d902d41384 09:03:21 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1363-g43b0ec6: Don't give monks bonus piety when getting Ru at an ecumenical altar 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43b0ec6a3cdc 09:03:21 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1364-gfd6394a: Don't give piety when converting to your current god at an ecumenical altar 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd6394a85fed 09:03:21 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1365-g52ad669: Fix spacing 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52ad669e101b 09:05:19 "Don't give piety when converting to your current god at an ecumenical altar" wasn't that working as intended? It isn't exactly scummable 09:06:28 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:12:39 yeah! 09:12:47 also, i had a pull request for those 09:14:05 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:14:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:20 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:22 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:21:45 I think giving ru piety for this altar is fine too, btw 09:23:39 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/60 * 0.17-a0-1366-g4e379ce: Move ecumenical altar logic into a new function. 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 74+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e379ce3225d 09:23:39 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/60 * 0.17-a0-1367-gfd1721e: Give bonus ecumenical altar piety to Ru-reworshippers. 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd1721e24181 09:23:39 03PleasingFungus02 {chequers} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/60 * 0.17-a0-1368-g052b2e2: Allow spell-less players to worship Sif 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/052b2e28445e 09:25:26 !tell marvinpa something i liked about ecumenical altars is that you were rewarded for trying them even in the unlikely case you rolled your current god 09:25:27 chequers: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 09:26:10 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 09:28:40 -!- quik has quit [Quit: When you said what you wanna say and you know the way you wanna play, you'll be so high, you'll be flying] 09:31:20 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:29 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:39:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:05 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42:27 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:53:59 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:58:11 -!- vale has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:33 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:08:36 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:09 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:14:00 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 10:14:39 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:48 -!- fazisi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22:59 -!- twofortypee has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:36:54 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:39:47 Mutations and Beastly Appendage (Demonspawn example) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9767 by TeshiAlair 10:41:32 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:47:38 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 10:48:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:59:31 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 11:01:50 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:02:43 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:08:52 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:09:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:13:02 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 11:22:56 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:54 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:26:10 -!- kulkarnin has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:26:19 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 11:27:12 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:32 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:37:57 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:16 -!- radinms_ has quit [] 11:47:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:48:55 -!- shklvsk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:49:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:47 -!- DrKe_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:58 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:54:42 -!- herself has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 11:57:00 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:46 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:06 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 12:07:03 -!- DrKe_ is now known as DrKe 12:09:24 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:10:18 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10:27 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1366-g27816b2: Mention in the description that Beastly Appendage can't boost mutations (#9767). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27816b23ff9a 12:10:32 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:08 -!- panicbit1 is now known as panicbit 12:22:14 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:16 !lg * recent x=absdepth max=absdeph 12:24:17 Unknown field: absdeph 12:24:18 !lg * recent x=absdepth max=absdepth 12:24:19 892175. [absdepth=54] Liqueur the Farming Archmage (L27 DEEE of Sif Muna), slain by a phantasmal warrior (summoned by a greater mummy) on Zig:27 on 2014-08-30 02:01:08, with 1879999 points after 204150 turns and 1d+6:10:21. 12:24:34 !lg * recent s=absdepth,place 12:24:36 892176 games for * (recent): 239795x 1 (207212x D:1, 32582x D:$, D:2), 150883x 2 (150878x D:2, 5x D:3), 135477x 3 (135475x D:3, 2x D:4), 97435x 4 (97435x D:4), 50642x 5 (46467x D:5, 4175x Sewer), 31765x 6 (30996x D:6, 768x Temple, D:9), 24698x 7 (20644x D:7, 4054x Ossuary), 20829x 25 (19422x Abyss:1, 650x Pan, 560x Depths:3, 197x WizLab), 19514x 8 (19514x D:8), 17986x 11 (8419x D:11, 7793x Lair:1,... 12:24:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:24:59 !lg * d:2 absdepth=1 12:25:01 2. OokamiNya the Grasshopper (L2 SpWr), fell down a flight of stairs on D:2 on 2014-10-21 23:52:59, with 21 points after 603 turns and 0:01:37. 12:30:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:32:55 wheals: Hallo 12:32:59 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:33:05 hi! 12:33:33 i remember having an idea for variable banishment but i think i forgot it 12:34:22 !lg * ktyp="falling down stairs" s=name 12:34:23 456 games for * (ktyp='falling down stairs'): 15x DrPraetor, 6x poop, 5x mercury, 4x Nate, 4x Lemuel, 4x akhripin, 4x rax, 4x Johan, 4x Nexos, 3x LordSloth, 3x Archibald, 3x simul, 3x Vesto, 3x sorear, 3x daf, 3x Kuprin, 3x fiyawerx, 3x CatEater, 2x alistair, 2x crawlie, 2x nate2, 2x Jovan, 2x bookofjude, 2x Tag, 2x neleai, 2x amb, 2x dirge23, 2x chilliwack, 2x fluffymormegil, 2x Monkaria, 2x Fros... 12:37:50 -!- kaiza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:19 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 12:40:56 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:42:23 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:42:55 -!- ohyou has quit [Quit: ohyou] 12:43:04 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:43 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:21 !tell chequers well using an ecumenical altar when you have a god is basically always going to be a really bad idea, i don't think having some potential tiny reward for it is a good idea really 12:47:21 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let chequers know. 12:48:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54:12 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:03:10 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16.1-30-g34a7ffa 13:04:45 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:28 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:18:19 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:35 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1366-g27816b2 (34) 13:39:47 -!- Morshu has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:47 -!- Morshu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:16 Uh, hey Mr. dev man... don't forget to make a special ruling for Beogh for the faded altars if you haven't done so already. just something that occured to me when I thought about that ecunume... ne..new altar thingie. 13:44:04 -!- Morshu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:44:22 -!- Morshu_ has quit [Client Quit] 13:44:49 -!- Morshu has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:38 -!- Morshu has quit [Client Quit] 13:48:20 -!- Silas is now known as fazisi 13:50:15 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 13:56:21 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:31 -!- speranza has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 14:00:10 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:03:43 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:05:32 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:08:13 -!- Molotove1mac] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:32 -!- Molotove[mac] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:11:41 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Use your powers wisely. 15:36:30 can anyone suggest maybe one thing that ghostly fire clouds and ghostly fire fireballs should do out of the set of: "ignores half ac, is part-physical and part-rN-resistible, heals undead, creates spectrals" 15:36:32 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1368-g6ab37f2 (34) 15:36:33 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1368-g6ab37f2 (34) 15:36:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:37:22 (also note that ghostly fire clouds currently aren't ghostly fire at all, also i guess add "does no damage to undead despite piercing rN" to that list) 15:38:37 can i suggest one thing that they should not do 15:39:06 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1368-g6ab37f2 (34) 15:39:30 exist 15:39:50 like, jeez, you already have regular fireball and regular flame clouds 15:42:00 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:42:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:17 i think making spectrals is the main thing but i'm not sure that makes sense for the fireball 15:44:37 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 15:47:15 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1368-g6ab37f2 (34) 15:51:08 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:51:34 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:04 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:57:59 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:59:11 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:59:19 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:00:28 why does it have fire in it if it doesn't check rf 16:02:07 spooky explosion, cloud of spookiness 16:06:20 @??nergalle 16:06:20 Nergalle (16o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 60 | AC/EV: 11/11 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 13neg | Vul: 08holy | XP: 804 | Sp: b.draining (3d18), sum.spectral orcs, haste other, death's door [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 16:06:31 @??josephine 16:06:31 Josephine (16@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 69 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 11 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 13neg+++ | Vul: 08holy | XP: 1060 | Sp: ghostly fireball (3d16), vampiric draining, animate dead, dispel undead (3d18) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 16:09:51 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:13:00 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:13:51 -!- astralTentacle has quit [Client Quit] 16:19:59 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:20:47 -!- Fusha has quit [] 16:23:41 -!- Guest65809 is now known as flappity 16:27:20 -!- Athaboros has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:28:30 Praying to Fedhas doesn't affect corpses inside Clouds of Poison 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9769 by bcadren 16:32:22 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:36:20 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:48 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:41:01 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:51:37 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:06 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 16:59:22 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:01:01 -!- magicpoints has quit [] 17:01:06 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:01 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:04:01 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 17:04:43 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:07:03 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:07:43 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:33 -!- MegaGrubby has quit [] 17:10:55 -!- Lightli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:11:07 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:10 -!- xcourier has quit [Quit: xcourier] 17:11:32 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:21:48 -!- NilsBloodaxe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:17 !polytheist 17:22:21 Unwon gods for NilsBloodaxe: , Beogh, Gozag, Nemelex Xobeh, Ru, Sif Muna, The Shining One 17:22:58 !polytheist 17:23:03 Unwon gods for minmay: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Nemelex Xobeh, Qazlal, Ru, The Shining One, Yredelemnul, Zin 17:23:10 ha 17:23:12 you'll never beat me 17:23:58 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:23 !won minmay 17:24:23 minmay has won 155 times in 3566 games (4.35%): 6xMuBe 5xDgEE 4xMuIE 3xMuEE 3xMuFE 2xDgFE 2xMiCj 2xMuAE 2xMuCK 2xMuCj 2xMuFi 2xMuGl 2xMuNe 2xMuWz 2xOgBe 2xTeAE 1xCeBe 1xDDBe 1xDDNe 1xDEBe 1xDECj 1xDEFE 1xDgAE 1xDgAM 1xDgAr 1xDgAs 1xDgCj 1xDgEn 1xDgFi 1xDgGl 1xDgHu 1xDgIE 1xDgMo 1xDgNe 1xDgSk 1xDgSu 1xDgTm 1xDgVM 1xDgWn 1xDgWr 1xDgWz 1xDjBe 1xDrBe 1xDrTm 1xDsAE 1xDsAK 1xDsAM 1xDsAr 1xDsAs 1xDsBe 1x... 17:25:28 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:14 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:31:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:36:41 -!- ohyou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:02 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:45:52 <|amethyst> whoops 17:45:59 <|amethyst> ??epic bugs[$] 17:45:59 epic bugs[24/24]: The git commit e0bdd66 roughly doubled player melee damage. This was not noticed until around halfway through the 0.16 tournament. http://s-z.org/neil/images/logicbug.jpg 17:46:23 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: I really thought I had removed that debugging code before testing, thanks :) 17:46:28 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:55 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: err, before pushing 17:48:40 !learn e epic_bugs[24 s/notic/fix 17:48:41 epic bugs[24/24]: The git commit e0bdd66 roughly doubled player melee damage. This was not fixed until around halfway through the 0.16 tournament. http://s-z.org/neil/images/logicbug.jpg 17:51:29 -!- sinusoidal_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:53:20 oh, the Gozag bug was debugging code? 17:53:46 I read the diff and was wondering how that could have gotten added 17:55:03 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 17:55:31 <|amethyst> I was testing ecu-joining Gozag with a new monk, a monk that had already joined a god, and a non-monk 17:55:45 <|amethyst> And didn't want to have to repeat dozens of times 17:55:55 -!- willkydd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:56:34 <|amethyst> At least it wasn't my previous testing code that forced Ru, because that would have let you max out piety pretty easily :) 17:57:00 sacrifice ecumenicity 18:02:00 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:03:15 <|amethyst> I got to do some ZFS recovery today, that was fun 18:04:01 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:04:39 <|amethyst> particularly when the "bigger fuse" technique paid off: zdb was crashing at one particular point, so I commented out a few asserts and it was able to keep going 18:04:49 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:53 <|amethyst> this is why no one pays me to write code 18:12:00 -!- lukano has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:59 |amethyst: aren't the grant writers doing so? 18:13:00 -!- twofortypee has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:13:03 er 18:13:09 not writers, grant-ers 18:13:34 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:13:53 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [] 18:14:48 <|amethyst> I don't actually write much actual code... mostly shell scripts and Perl to tie together other stuff, occasionally a proof of concept 18:15:06 academic! 18:16:09 <|amethyst> perish the thought! 18:17:12 <|amethyst> sometimes I do write Perl programs instead of Perl scripts 18:17:54 !source pbuilderrc 18:17:54 Can't find pbuilderrc. 18:18:07 !source docs/develop/release/pbuilderrc 18:18:08 Can't find docs/develop/release/pbuilderrc. 18:18:15 !lg * place=ivory_tower 18:18:15 No games for * (place=ivory_tower). 18:18:20 hrm, wasn't source fixed to allow stuff outside of source? 18:18:38 !source coding_conventions.txt 18:18:39 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/coding_conventions.txt 18:18:46 maybe the copy is old? 18:18:52 could be 18:19:14 |amethyst: but I was going to say, if you see anything really bad in that pbuilderrc (a shell script), feel free to poke 18:19:26 !source cast_teleport_control 18:19:27 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-selfench.cc#l344 18:19:35 e.g. 18:19:43 most of it is the default, just some tweaks 18:20:14 er it just has some tweaks to make selecting os/arch/dist easier and some better defaults for our purposes 18:20:31 <|amethyst> is this guaranteed to run under bash? 18:20:49 hrm, that's a good point, I guess 18:21:16 it just says in the man page "sourced by a shell script" 18:21:25 but it'd be a debian system, so probably always? 18:21:27 -!- lukano has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:31 <|amethyst> ? 18:21:50 it's used by pbuilder 18:21:59 <|amethyst> /bin/sh hasn't been bash for a long time 18:22:30 I see that pbuilder itself uses /bin/bash 18:22:33 <|amethyst> ah, but pbuilder... 18:22:33 so it seems always bash, yes 18:22:34 <|amethyst> yeah 18:22:49 <|amethyst> in that case I'd use [[ ]] instead of [ ] 18:23:01 <|amethyst> though I guess it doesn't matter here 18:23:18 : ${ARCH:="$(dpkg --print-architecture)"} 18:23:23 I'm not sure why the : 18:23:34 but that's in the default anyhow 18:23:55 <|amethyst> because ${ARCH:="$(dpkg --print-architecture)"} sets the variable if unset, then evaluates to its value 18:24:14 <|amethyst> without the :, it would try to run the command "i386" (or whatever) 18:24:21 got it 18:24:34 <|amethyst> ':' is just another name for 'false' 18:24:46 yeah, I had read that much, but was confused as to why it was necessary 18:25:07 but now I see what the := in that assign does, so it makes sense 18:25:15 <|amethyst> I think it's a kind of silly way to do it, but eh 18:26:19 not exactly related, but I think the changelog format in debian/changelog might be wrong, since dch seems to always mess up making a new entry 18:26:43 for one it always clobbers the last entry, but partially so 18:27:12 clobbers it with the new entry, that is; part of it might be related to how we're numbering our versions in debian 18:27:30 are we numbering them differently? 18:27:39 we use e.g. 2:0.16.0 18:27:59 and I don't what that 2: prefix is really for 18:28:08 <|amethyst> that's an 'epoch' 18:28:13 <|amethyst> it says "this is greater than 4.0" 18:28:38 <|amethyst> since dcss replaced ldc but kept the package name 18:28:48 ah, interesting 18:29:28 then that's probably unrelated to weird dch behaviour 18:30:19 we also have UNRELEASED in all our versions 18:30:19 which is wrong 18:30:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:30:50 hrm, except before 0.14.2 when we had unstable 18:31:06 haha, and before 0.12.0 it was experimental 18:31:16 and then back to unstable 18:32:06 <|amethyst> aha, that's it 18:32:15 <|amethyst> the UNRELEASED thing 18:32:34 oh, that's not a valid release designation? 18:32:44 <|amethyst> it is valid, but it has special meaning 18:32:58 <|amethyst> if I change it to 'unstable', dch --newversion 2:0.16.2 seems to work right 18:33:05 <|amethyst> the top one 18:33:23 <|amethyst> with or without --nomultimaint 18:33:46 <|amethyst> oh, but I guess that should be --newversion 2:0.16.2-1 18:33:53 what qualifies as 'stable' 18:34:03 <|amethyst> wheals: jessie 18:34:24 ah, so it's not quite about us 18:34:34 well for 0.16 we were based on ubuntu 18:34:52 I guess they just use the codenames 18:35:01 but maybe I'll change that for 0.16.2 18:35:13 <|amethyst> I suspect it's either 'unstable' or 'experimental' in most cases 18:35:24 <|amethyst> not sure about backports, don't have any on this system 18:35:35 hrm, but we wouldn't use debian branch names on ubuntu, I think 18:36:35 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:36:52 <|amethyst> that's probably better than the other way around 18:37:09 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:37:53 yeah maybe so, I can just use unstable, and I don't think changelog entries are going to have any other effect 18:38:13 <|amethyst> yeah 18:38:28 <|amethyst> another question... should we sync with Debian? 18:38:28 also I realize I'll have to manually copy over the 0.16 debian/changelog entries 18:38:50 <|amethyst> they have 0.16.1 currently 18:38:54 oh, huh 18:39:02 <|amethyst> they disable LTO because they get ICEs there 18:39:08 heh, yep :) 18:39:14 that's what we did 18:39:16 <|amethyst> ah 18:39:50 what would syncing mean, though? 18:40:39 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:40:41 |amethyst: btw, LTO stands for link-time optimisation, not long-term optimisation 18:40:46 er 18:40:48 sorry, gammafunk: 18:41:04 <|amethyst> "Link Takes 'Ours" 18:41:09 oh, good to know; that wasn't my description of it, but I can fix it 18:41:20 !blame3 Grunt 18:41:21 Gruuuuunt 18:41:49 lotta time off-shaved 18:42:50 wrt to the official debian package, I'm all for reforming our debian process, but I don't know how it's supposed to be done 18:43:14 <|amethyst> gammafunk: could write to guus 18:43:32 yeah maybe so 18:43:41 <|amethyst> he was a LDC dev once upon a time 18:43:59 the way we structure our repo also seems a bit odd to me (major version as components), but maybe that's the most practical way of doing it 18:44:52 <|amethyst> oh, that's certainly something that wouldn't be in the debian package but probably should be in ours 18:45:13 sure, and it's not actually in the package in any way 18:45:15 <|amethyst> the idea being to let people choose which version to install 18:45:19 it's just how we have our repo set up 18:45:59 I agree about the version to install, but those very ancient packages can't be terribly useful 18:46:09 -!- stanzill has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:46:21 <|amethyst> they are for people who refuse to play without Mountain Dwarves :) 18:46:39 sure, but would they actually install on a reasonalbly recent debian stable? 18:46:42 <|amethyst> oh, do we even go that far back still? 18:47:33 we go back to 0.10, it seems 18:47:35 <|amethyst> hm 18:47:41 I think you said some files were missing for one of the older versions 18:47:49 without SE, then 18:47:50 <|amethyst> yeah, pool only goes back to 0.10 but dists goes to 0.8 18:48:05 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 18:48:25 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:48:42 <|amethyst> and I think there were one or two other things missing from one or the other (.debs without metadata or vice versa) 18:49:24 I guess it's as simple as deleting old components if we start to care about that 18:50:14 <|amethyst> Debian has packages going back to 0.7.1 at the moment 18:50:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:50:37 <|amethyst> though once squeeze falls off we'll be approximately at parity 18:50:58 %git debian 18:50:58 07kilobyte02 * 0.7.1-778-gee8c1a6: Debian's 0.7.1-3 10(4 years, 10 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee8c1a6dc491 18:51:57 <|amethyst> that was the version where kilobyte became the Debian maintainer for crawl 18:52:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:52:05 <|amethyst> oh, no it wasn't 18:52:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:25 <|amethyst> that was 0.6 19:02:33 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:25 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:10:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:18 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:25:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:31:10 New branch created: pull/62 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/62 19:31:10 03amalloy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/62 * 0.17-a0-1361-g8a8bba9: Simplify some flag-handling 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a8bba99777e 19:32:17 gammafunk: i am on the moon 19:32:32 <|amethyst> amalloy: I can tell you're not an APL programmer 19:32:35 i feel like the second if should be an else if 19:32:44 <|amethyst> because you didn't write ignore_protection * player_prot_life() :) 19:32:55 though obviously it's a matter of style 19:32:59 <|amethyst> err, !ignore_protection that is 19:33:21 |amethyst: i'm a little cautious about treating bools as ints, even though i checked and it is apparently guaranteed they will be 1 19:33:55 <|amethyst> yeah, that would be silly, don't actually do that 19:34:02 <|amethyst> :) 19:34:11 !lm amallow 19:34:12 No milestones for amallow. 19:34:13 !lm amalloy 19:34:14 3693. [2015-06-11 23:31:50] amalloy the Fencer (L20 HESk of Ru) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 70336. (Elf:3) 19:34:16 !lm amalloy x=src 19:34:17 3693. [2015-06-11 23:31:50] [src=cao] amalloy the Fencer (L20 HESk of Ru) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 70336. (Elf:3) 19:34:22 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:34:27 <|amethyst> !lm amallow place=swamp 19:34:28 No milestones for amallow (place=swamp). 19:34:46 funny thing, I was just adjusting this map 19:35:04 gammafunk: these eyes are the word, because i sacrificed a bunch of MR to ru 19:35:06 *worst 19:35:20 heh, well don't worry, one change is to make less of those 19:35:27 they're just not very effective enemies here 19:36:05 or anywhere, arguably, but if you do slime early they might do something 19:36:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:37:16 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 19:37:57 amalloy: oh i thought "i am on the moon" was a joke about flags 19:38:37 wow, talk about a CS geek 19:42:16 why is this cacodemon not digging out at me? 19:42:29 because it's not next to the wall yet 19:42:35 and there are monsters in the way 19:42:45 it'll kill the plant and then dig 19:43:23 nice spectral rod 19:43:45 gammafunk: just in case, y'know 19:44:30 gammafunk: are you going to make me read the des to find out where this portal goes? 19:44:48 it takes you something that's beyond this world! 19:44:57 *to something 19:45:24 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:46:13 I wonder if carved wretched star would actually taste like ham 19:47:02 tastes like victory 19:51:09 oh right. the moon troll armour is what i haven't seen yet 19:51:13 the portal must go there 19:52:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:52:45 !send amalloy unseen terrors of the wind 19:52:45 Sending unseen terrors of the wind to amalloy. 19:53:41 Not a vault monster: moon troll 19:53:41 %??spec:moon troll 19:54:20 @??moon troll 19:54:20 moon troll (11T) | Spd: 12 | HD: 18 | HP: 79-117 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 35, 2509(claw), 2509(claw) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, regen | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison | XP: 2751 | Sp: singularity (42d1) | Sz: Big | Int: human. 19:54:30 @??iron troll 19:54:31 iron troll (10T) | Spd: 7 | HD: 16 | HP: 72-108 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 35, 2509(claw), 2509(claw) | 10doors, regen | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 775 | Sz: Big | Int: human. 19:54:54 so, a hasted iron troll with singularity. blech 19:55:10 more than hasted 19:55:23 yes 19:56:29 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:15 hrm, that should only happen if it already generated 19:59:18 gammafunk: i thought it was always MTLA unless i had already seen the unrand 19:59:24 maybe it is in elf:3 19:59:25 well it might have generated 19:59:28 yeah 20:00:33 -!- Idolo has quit [] 20:00:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:02:14 secret loot prediction tech 20:04:10 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:04:16 <|amethyst> !lm amalloy br.end=elf 20:04:18 23. [2015-06-11 23:30:13] amalloy the Fencer (L20 HESk of Ru) reached level 3 of the Elven Halls on turn 70250. (Elf:3) 20:06:07 there has been exactly one elf on elf:3, outside of the end vault 20:11:49 ??okan 20:11:49 okan ~ oka ~ okawaru[1/7]: Heroism (*) temporarily gives +5 to all non-magic skills except Invocations and Evocations, although Fighting skill from it gives no extra HP. Finesse (*****) halves attack delay but does not stack with haste or berserk and is blocked by stasis. Okawaru also gifts weapons, armour, and ammo. 20:11:55 er 20:11:56 ??plan 20:11:56 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 20:12:35 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 20:12:59 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:13:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:14:49 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:05 gammafunk: a deep elf demonologist, wielding a long sword and wearing the +4 moon troll leather armour {Spirit, Regen++ MP+5} 20:19:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:19:59 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:24:58 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:32:21 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:30 !tell marvinpa isn't using an ecumenical altar when you already have a god a fun idea though? 20:34:30 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:34:30 chequers: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 20:34:33 !messages 20:34:34 (1/1) MarvinPA said (7h 47m 12s ago): well using an ecumenical altar when you have a god is basically always going to be a really bad idea, i don't think having some potential tiny reward for it is a good idea really 20:35:28 ecumenical altars are broken btw 20:38:19 * geekosaur thinks it sounds like a perfectly terrible idea 20:38:31 then again I think using one when I don't have a god is a terrible idea too >.> 20:39:41 (crawl russian roulette. "ooh looky, my EE rolled Trog") 20:40:14 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:42:33 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:44:25 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:47:49 chequers: broken? 20:49:04 ecumenical altars are basically the altar of Xom thinks this is hilarious. 20:49:19 I won't defend their usefulness, but dammit, they've got character 20:52:21 uh 20:52:21 yeah 20:52:24 There is a faded altar to an unknown god here. _No God accepts your prayer! 20:52:30 that happened 20:53:14 rip gods. must be some kind of mass deicide 20:53:52 -!- x[LGWs4x4i]uG2N0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:55:29 -!- omniscient has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:59:10 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:56 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:30 Un-ID'ed artifact rings appear blue on the ground. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9770 by Rast 21:03:50 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:10:24 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:48 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:12:51 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:13:07 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17:54 amalloy: haha, I hope that deep elf didn't get too comfortable in that tla 21:18:28 -!- Gorgo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:17 -!- Kramell has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:26:41 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 21:27:21 -!- Fluffhead has quit [Quit: Fluffhead] 21:29:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:29:58 -!- halberd has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:52 it seems autopickup of stacks-with-inventory missiles that you have not enabled on autopickup, does not work anymore 21:30:59 is this on purpose? 21:31:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:50 ah, I think the problem with ecumenical altars is that you can roll GOD_NO_GOD, but can someone check me? 21:33:00 god = god_type(random2(NUM_GODS)); 21:33:07 this could select GOD_NO_GOD, right? 21:33:46 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:38:48 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:39:39 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:40:23 It should -- unless otherwise specified, the first enum is 0, afaik 21:40:39 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:41:01 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:51 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:41:53 can someone apply this bugfix to trunk then? http://sprunge.us/fhaB 21:42:37 chequers: instead of rerolling when you get NO_GOD, it'd be better to just not allow 0 21:42:37 sure 21:42:50 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:42:52 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:42:56 like i'm sure we have a random_range function or something 21:43:00 good point 21:43:12 random_range(1,NUM_GODS-1)? 21:43:45 yes, although it'd be a little nicer if you added GOD_FIRST_GOD to the enum set to whatever the first god is, and used that instead of 1 21:43:50 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:44:02 but that is a style thing and maybe others don't agree 21:44:50 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 21:44:57 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:46:15 -!- Ironfoot has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:51 hrm 21:46:53 will a jello spawn if you get jyiva from a ecunumumu.. ecunu.. faded altar? 21:46:57 yes 21:47:06 and can you get beogh? 21:47:12 yes, as a HO 21:47:15 I kind of wonder that we don't have a version of random_choose that...well maybe that's not so useful 21:47:17 cool thy 21:47:25 chooses a random enum value from a given enum 21:47:40 ??random altar 21:47:40 ecumenical altar[1/1]: Converts you to a random god, and gives you 20 bonus piety. Won't pick a god that you cannot worship (including Sif Muna with no spells). Conversion to Gozag skips the entry fee, and conversion to Ru provides an immediate sacrifice offer. 21:47:44 I would like to change altars so Monks who roll Ru/Gozag get something useful, but marvin doesn't like that idea. Any other supporters? 21:47:46 probably just a bad idea in general, thinking of how we use enums 21:48:00 ^(including Sif Muna with no spells). that has been changed recently afaik 21:48:03 hrm, why not just disallow those 21:48:12 !learn edit ecumenical_altar[1] s/ \(including Sif Muna with no spells\)// 21:48:12 ecumenical altar[1/1]: Converts you to a random god, and gives you 20 bonus piety. Won't pick a god that you cannot worship. Conversion to Gozag skips the entry fee, and conversion to Ru provides an immediate sacrifice offer. 21:48:14 those two results, I mean 21:48:24 gammafunk: well I think that's less fun if two gods can't be rolled 21:48:25 thanks, didnt know how to edit 21:48:38 you can even get lugonu or jiyva but not ru/gozag? 21:49:03 I think not being broken or awkward is a sufficent reward for any loss fun 21:49:10 *lost 21:49:11 I was thinking for gozag, you get a second free PP, and for ru you get 20 piety 21:49:46 Mo^Ru from this is a pretty powerful start, but it's not really scummable 21:50:14 this sounds very confused to me, what are we trying to achieve here? 21:50:33 "Monks who roll Ru/Gozag get something useful" 21:50:44 are ecu altars supposed to provide a reward? 21:51:15 yes! 21:51:21 generally the answer just goes back to "what is the intent of the thing" 21:51:37 a) fun b) reward for taking a risky option (random god) 21:52:17 what reward though? isn't the reward just "you worship this god" 21:52:18 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 21:52:26 random god is the reward, no? 21:52:37 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:52:52 it's fun but I wouldn't call a random god a "reward" 21:53:45 I think the idea of the altar as anything other than "you get a god now (because you found this altar), but you don't know what it is" is just the idea plain and simple 21:53:55 If I may give my 2 cents... I thought to myself "yeah it's fun, but I can't think of many character who'd actually want to use this. some starts can get rly screwed if they get god x and not many are flexible enough to work with anyone." 21:54:19 trying to add special cases to make this better for some chars in some gods is starting to get away from the design 21:54:24 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:54:38 -!- melenkurio has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:54:53 i think it's fine if the "reward" for the ecumenical altar is that it appears before temple, and you get a god early 21:54:58 I think if the goal is just "get a random god" you're not adding much that "worship at the first altar you see" doesn't do 21:55:37 it's more challenging, since you can't see the first altar is xom and go "actually I won't do that after all" 21:55:40 well, except i don't think anyone actually does that. even if you plan to, if you find trog on your decj you probably won't 21:56:02 well sure, but is this altar just a replacement for discipline for players who want a challenge run? 21:56:03 so what the ecumenical altar adds over that is that it's actually random 21:56:13 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:56:20 ??ecumenical_altar 21:56:21 ecumenical altar[1/1]: Converts you to a random god, and gives you 20 bonus piety. Won't pick a god that you cannot worship. Conversion to Gozag skips the entry fee, and conversion to Ru provides an immediate sacrifice offer. 21:56:22 and if you skew it earlier (as it currently is, for testing), that's a good reward 21:56:23 -!- rwork has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:56:54 wait conversion as in convert from another religion? 21:57:01 yes 21:57:25 what does Mo^Ru get currently, also immediate sac offer? 21:58:09 fr: tile for faded altar 21:58:18 btw there seems to be a certain cognitive disconnect between the in-game help text saying "pray here for more information" and praying saying "this will convert you to a god, do you want to continue?" 21:58:35 tht particular more information could just be put in the help text 21:58:51 gammafunk: yes 21:59:17 geekosaur: good catch 22:00:33 the regular altars give you the good info after you pray too 22:00:42 no? 22:00:44 and then it asks you if you want to join 22:00:49 right, that 22:01:05 but you get nothing but the prompt at the ecumenical altar 22:01:11 I c 22:02:53 (in fact since the help text already tells you that you will be converted to a random god, it seems pointless to suggest at all that you can get anything more from praying there) 22:02:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:03:12 any more information, that is 22:05:55 I'm not particularly fond of the piety bonus for Ru, but I don't really know how else you handle monks without screwing them over a little. On the other hand, I'm not really that upset about screwing over monks that randomly get Ru from this altar slightly. 22:06:26 if you get ru you get a sac insta if you get gozag it's free of charge 22:07:02 Ironfoot: right, that's what you get if you aren't a monk; shouldn't monks get something extra? (no) 22:07:19 (to provide both sides of the argument) 22:08:00 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:01 how about a lesser piety bonus for Ru? 22:08:12 you could argue that anyone willing to pray to an unguessable random god is already demonstrating "monk-like" qualities 22:08:28 one heck of a leap fo faith... 22:08:33 yeah if you're able to keep praying to it and expecting positive results 22:08:36 that is 22:08:39 leap of fucking faith 22:08:48 no, it's replaced by the real altar 22:08:56 but I did have fun doing that in testing before I made that change :D 22:09:11 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16.1-30-g34a7ffa 22:09:27 <_miek> altar-of-random-wrath-until-acceptable-god 22:09:49 hah 22:10:17 You did a good job of making the monk bonus count for the non-piety gods too lately. I personlly wouldn't mind of the monk doesnt get an extra from the random temple, even if you could argue that their bonus would be then meaningless in some cases. the one thing I would wish for is that it somehow interacts with xom too. then youd have the full spectrum covered for the monk bonus. 22:11:17 if i'd get a an early ru altar with insta sac on a monk im ready to reck face, even without any further incentive 22:11:30 shouldn't xom be highly amused by the whole thing anyway? 22:11:35 random*^ 22:12:13 yeah, are we going to go ballancing all the other bad results that can arise from certain chars getting certain gods at random? 22:12:58 trolls dont mesh well with gozag. I learned it the hard way 22:15:11 I think you should only weed out an result that's absolutely unplayable, otherwise the random factor is kinda moot 22:17:46 -!- Ironfoot_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:38 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:19:49 fr: color Box of Beasts red/white and add a small quadratic black/white button in the middle. then you have the quadratic pokeball of crawl! 22:20:39 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:23:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:27:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 22:28:27 I really should fix this bailey vault 22:30:38 -!- MegaGrubby has quit [] 22:33:38 with a random altar somebody somewhere will get screwed at some point, but that's fine. It's not like they didn't warn you before. you know what you are getting yourself ino. 22:34:31 gammafunk: which one? the one with a warlord and disgustingly good loot? 22:34:51 no, the ..what're they called, the entry vault 22:34:57 where there's deep water 22:35:02 or the one with the kobolds that cause a lag storm 22:36:00 <|amethyst> use_animations -= beam 22:36:16 so that you can't get to the bailey unless you have flight 22:36:39 <|amethyst> gammafunk: what about the ones where you need flight once you're in? 22:36:49 those provide flight though, don't they 22:37:04 as in there's a flight pot or the ring inside 22:37:31 I know some bazaars are this way as well, but at least those don't appear so early 22:37:49 <|amethyst> ah, I guess they do now 22:38:39 the one sewer that needs flight also has flight pots in it 22:40:38 -!- Zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:41:42 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:22 <|amethyst> I can think of three sewers that require flying or swimming to complete, and AFAICT none of them guarantee flying, though sewer_fruit_machine makes it likely 22:45:02 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:06 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:46:24 I suppose it's a question of "can I get something extra with witty use of flight" or "do I NEED to get flight to get the hell outta hre" 22:46:32 also RIP flight spell 22:47:46 anyway good night and stay fresh 22:47:50 -!- Ironfoot_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:48:12 well require flight to complete is different from require flight to get anything from at all 22:48:48 s/anything from/anything/ 22:50:38 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:45 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:13:59 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:17:49 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:21:03 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:28:31 <+gammafunk> yeah, are we going to go ballancing all the other bad <-- did anyone suggest this though 23:28:54 I'm just suggesting "always do a little better than worshipping the real altar" 23:29:21 isn't there also a volcano entry that requires flight/blink/dig 23:31:21 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:33:58 I think we modified that one 23:38:26 ??monster damage 23:38:26 monster damage[1/3]: 1d(monster damage rating) + [random2(weapon base damage) + random2(weapon damage ench) - 1d3]. Multiply by 3/2 for might and 5/2 for stab. 23:39:03 ??monster_damage[2 23:39:03 monster damage[2/3]: Damage reduction is max(random2(AC), gdr_percent*[monster damage + weapon base damage]). For example, a player with 50% gdr always gets at least 15 damage reduction against an anaconda and 22 against a stone giant. 23:39:17 ??monster_damage[3 23:39:18 monster damage[3/3]: {weapon brands} work the same as for the player. Elemental attacks are different, however. See {af_cold}, {af_elec}. 23:43:42 -!- Gurmil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:44:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:44:39 !learn edit monster_damage[1] s/1d3/1d3 if the monster has a weapon 23:44:39 monster damage[1/3]: 1d(monster damage rating) + [random2(weapon base damage) + random2(weapon damage ench) - 1d3 if the monster has a weapon]. Multiply by 3/2 for might and 5/2 for stab. 23:45:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:18 !lg mps won 23:47:18 3. mps the Conqueror (L27 HESk of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-03-28 20:57:03, with 14998639 points after 104817 turns and 1d+0:12:41. 23:52:37 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:57:50 Stable (0.16) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16.1-30-g34a7ffa 23:59:40 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev