00:00:16 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:00:19 <|amethyst> and then, to keep it within Crawl's moderately zany fantasy theme, call it the "iron rod" 00:00:36 i think you've cracked it 00:01:47 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:06:43 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:07:00 -!- Gorgo_1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:07:16 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:47 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:19:32 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1210-g1e4f09d (34) 00:21:35 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:24:00 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:51 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:52 The build has errored. (master - 8d87e0a #2738 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/65186441 00:38:52 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:41:25 -!- NJP has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:43:43 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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(master - 1e4f09d #2739 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/65187661 01:25:20 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:25:41 -!- dethmo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:25:46 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 01:28:30 _miek: see! 01:29:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:35:32 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:04 -!- megane has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:47:11 -!- fluffhead has quit [Quit: fluffhead] 01:48:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:50:53 -!- rwork has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:52:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1210-g1e4f09d 01:57:29 -!- mnoleg69reagan42 has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 01:59:59 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:01 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:09:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:11:51 -!- CrayRabbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:14:26 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:18:31 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$ 02:18:33 89. penismuncher, XL15 TrMo, T:26548 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 02:25:12 hm 02:25:16 gammafunk: do you know anything about mon-info 02:25:23 same question goes to |amethyst and anyone else online 02:25:31 bits and pieces, from the colour stuff 02:25:51 I'm trying to figure out what paths can be taken to create a mon-info 02:25:51 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:26:03 there seems to be one that doesn't initialize a field I need 02:26:06 oh, heh yeah probably quite a lot 02:26:22 since it's "knowledge about a monster the player has seen" 02:26:23 yeah... 02:26:29 which field? 02:27:37 i_ghost seems to be garbage 02:27:45 the weird mon-info mimic of ghost demons 02:27:54 I'm getting data that looks like it's uninitialized 02:28:10 when the game is printing names of monsters for announcements - when i x over monsters, it shows the right name 02:29:30 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 02:29:42 !messages 02:29:42 (1/3) |amethyst said (14h 24m 33s ago): it's a database holding all the logfiles for all the servers, as well as information derived from that, such as (relevant here) streaks and streak-breaking games 02:29:48 !messages 02:29:48 (1/2) |amethyst said (14h 24m 24s ago): it does not seem to be very normalised at all: https://github.com/neilmoore/dcss_scoring/blob/master/database.sql\ 02:29:50 !messages 02:29:50 (1/1) |amethyst said (14h 24m 13s ago): err, without the stray backslash: https://github.com/neilmoore/dcss_scoring/blob/master/database.sql 02:31:19 PleasingFungus: hrm, I don't see anything like a name in i_ghost 02:32:03 no I'm doing something that needs data from i_ghost to generate a common_name 02:32:09 currently trying a workaround 02:32:27 sorry, I'm not really giving you enough info 02:33:17 PleasingFungus: how are you creating your monster_info 02:33:24 I don't know 02:33:41 well what's the last function to give you monster_info 02:33:51 I don't know 02:33:52 since you're looking at i_ghost you must have a monster_info 02:33:54 I haven't touched any of that code 02:34:13 FR 02:34:22 I've only touched the end (the output of the name), not anything in the middle that turns a monster into a monster info 02:34:25 if that makes any sense 02:34:33 MR on the character sheet should be displayed as a number instead of the dots 02:34:38 anyway, don't worry about it, I'm doing something else. 02:34:43 xv ona monster should tell you its spell power 02:34:55 yeah I was just asking where the last plast a monster_info was obtained was 02:34:58 that'd help me identify the path 02:35:00 rast: player's spell power too, I assume? 02:35:03 but I guess nm 02:35:09 I have no idea, I never create a monster info 02:35:12 PleasingFungus yeah that too 02:35:22 and xv on a monster should tell you its MR number 02:35:22 also we'll display damage and accuracy, to-hit rolls 02:35:23 etc 02:35:30 to be fair, you already get that for hexes 02:36:07 yeah then I guess the question is what is giving you your i_ghost (but again I guess it doesn't matter) 02:38:59 I feel like what hex to use depends a lot on the success chance, there's no real direct equivalent for weapons 02:39:29 chequers its also good to know what your chances of being hex by a monster are 02:39:38 you 02:39:40 kno 02:39:42 you can already see that 02:39:43 right 02:39:48 *know 02:39:51 ah, damn, i forgot that 02:39:55 rekd 02:40:02 -!- seriallo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:08 BUT if you have a number, you can also take that number and compare to a list of monsters 02:40:09 also, spellpower isn't really defined for most monster spells 02:40:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:03 -!- seriallos has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:45:12 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:46:33 -!- seriallo_ has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:47:51 is a number really similar to another number but 02:48:20 compare this compare that, have you ever considered maybe monster hex chances don't WANT to be constantly compared to one another 02:48:32 maybe you should leave your hex chance the hell alone and let it be the chance it wants to be 02:48:40 <3 02:50:54 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1210-g1e4f09d 02:54:48 !function monster_die 02:54:49 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#l1736 02:56:56 i suspect gammafunk will keep asking for that !source until someone volunteers to clean it up 02:57:18 - die! 02:57:29 !send gammafunk KILL_YOU_MISSILE 02:57:29 Sending KILL_YOU_MISSILE to gammafunk. 02:58:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:01:22 no I'm going through it now and cleaning it up 03:01:30 it's just really difficult to track down all the logic 03:01:38 but I'm 90% done 03:01:39 ! 03:02:01 specifically I'm cleaning up the code for "does killing this award that xp" 03:05:35 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:07:27 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:08:58 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:09:29 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:53 -!- Shred has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:10:06 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:11:00 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:12:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.1/20150513174244]] 03:12:19 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:13:20 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ is now known as Twiggytwiggytwig 03:17:10 sorry gammafunk had to post a small gammadunk in the tier lists thread 03:19:56 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1210-g1e4f09d (34) 03:22:55 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:23:25 he had some kind of high elf that he quit on d:1 03:23:31 that was better 03:23:35 yeah I know 03:23:42 it was a high elf though 03:24:01 probably even used summoning 03:24:26 !hs gammafunk mibe !won 03:24:26 132. gammafunk the Executioner (L22 MiBe of Makhleb), quit the game on Coc:7 (coc_mu) on 2015-04-21 22:32:58, with 475300 points after 27544 turns and 6:06:37. 03:26:15 !lg gammafunk quit urune=15 min=turn 03:26:16 1. gammafunk the Demonologist (L27 HEIE of Sif Muna), quit the game on D:1 on 2014-02-22 20:26:26, with 941018 points after 49424 turns and 12:08:34. 03:26:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:26:25 !lg minmay won s=crace 03:26:26 153 games for minmay (won): 44x Mummy, 26x Demigod, 22x Demonspawn, 5x Minotaur, 5x Octopode, 4x Naga, 4x Human, 4x Tengu, 4x Merfolk, 3x High Elf, 3x Ghoul, 3x Ogre, 3x Deep Elf, 2x Spriggan, 2x Vine Stalker, 2x Vampire, 2x Deep Dwarf, 2x Troll, 2x Formicid, 2x Draconian, Lava Orc, Hill Orc, Kobold, Halfling, Felid, Gargoyle, Sludge Elf, Centaur, Djinni 03:26:32 hrm 03:26:35 that won't work 03:26:40 let's see 03:29:46 !tell pleasingfungus um no i was just bored as shit 03:29:46 minmay: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:30:32 n1k: don't know what you mean, but lol at that epic minmay dunk you made ahaha man I laughed!!! 03:31:30 gammafunk, rip 03:31:51 we shouldn't be so hard on him, dunking him all the time, but it is fun 03:32:00 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:33:21 he's the only guy who gets dunked like that 03:34:20 taking bets on what i dream about tonight 03:34:33 im taking my cat to the veterinarian in the morning if it helps 03:34:34 hrm...asterion 03:34:49 a potato 03:38:26 ok, will update in 12 hours or something 03:38:33 thank you 03:38:39 !lg penismuncher 1 03:38:39 1/3. penismuncher the Brawler (L15 TrMo of Yredelemnul), mangled by a stone giant in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-06-02 21:46:34, with 96229 points after 27859 turns and 4:57:52. 03:38:44 if you guess wrong you have to buy me a potato 03:38:52 will do 03:39:01 if youre right you get two potatoes 03:39:02 again I deserve more credit for preventing a player called penismuncher from winning his first game of crawl 03:39:28 i hope i dont dream about that. byte 03:39:30 furthermore, for being an all around great guy 03:39:30 bye* 03:40:01 never mind that it's because he was unspoiled wrt golden eyes and had over a dozen unided potions/scrolls in inventory 03:40:29 was his yred army dead 03:40:53 he didn't recall it, but can you do that in a portal? 03:41:16 I recall you can't in some places, but it's been a while since I've done yred 03:42:40 I meant to do a yred speedrun this spring 03:43:06 i forget where you can and cant 03:43:39 a 3 rune one? 03:43:44 !lg * won yred min=turns 03:43:45 636. jeanjacques the Talismancer (L23 DDAr of Yredelemnul), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-04-26 16:54:04, with 3114752 points after 23348 turns and 3:38:57. 03:44:25 !locateall gammafunk 03:44:36 gammafunk: CAO 0.16-a, L1 VSDK of Yredelemnul | CBRO 0.16-a, L1 HESu of No God | CBRO 0.17-a, L1 DESu of No God | CBRO squarelos-0.17 0.17-a, L1 HuWz of No God | CPO 0.16-a, L1 HESu of No God | CSZO 0.16-a, L9 HESu of Sif Muna | CSZO 0.16-a, L7 HESu of No God | CSZO 0.16-a, L7 HESu of No God | CSZO 0.16-a, L8 HESu of No God | CSZO 0.16-a, L7 HESu of No God | CSZO 0.15, L4 HESu of No God | CSZO 0.1... 03:44:42 that's...not accurate 03:44:45 because of wizmode 03:44:50 gammafunk: CAO 0.16-a, L1 VSDK of Yredelemnul 03:44:54 oh right 03:44:55 still looming over me 03:45:04 how could I have forgotten 03:45:57 as they say "deal whit it" 03:47:55 -!- ohyou has quit [Client Quit] 03:48:13 oh it was "DeaLWhiTThiS" 03:48:18 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:49:06 with some xx’s 03:49:16 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 03:51:28 i just tried to enslave an orc priest, and got the message "the orc priest is repulsed!" is that because i'm following tso? 03:51:44 if so what monsters can and can't i enslave? 03:52:21 amalloy, yes, it's a heretic priest so you can't enslave it 03:52:39 orc priests are evil, i believe 03:52:48 have the evil tag 03:52:50 i think thats the reason 03:53:05 the restriction are those monsters which your god dislikes--as DrKe says evil, undead, demonic 03:53:14 -!- dethyo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:53:27 although you can enslave anything with Trog, I guess 03:53:35 no, spellcasters are repulsed 03:53:42 i’ve tried that before, pretty sure 03:54:11 actually i might be thinking of mercenary card interaction with trog 03:54:16 which is far more obscure than enslavement 03:54:23 would have to wizmode it 03:56:17 The orc wizard is repulsed! 04:00:24 ah, good. I just assumed I had enslaved an orc wizard on a bererker before but couldn't specifically remember it failing 04:00:25 thanks 04:01:21 yeah i had no memory of it failing recently either 04:01:25 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:01:51 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 04:06:41 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10:26 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 04:13:46 -!- sk3 is now known as ktgrey 04:23:08 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:31:54 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:40:50 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:47 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:08:36 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:09 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:14:52 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:15:57 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:20:21 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:26:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:28:31 The orc wizard is repulsed! 05:30:48 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:35:20 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:19 yes, |amethyst, there have been crashes, don't know the exact date, but that's why i had to change the whole hardware 05:38:30 i will run a btrfs scrub later 05:38:39 but i think i already did after the change 05:42:11 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:42:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:28 Napkin: in the debian repo we only found the one file that seem corrupted 05:57:43 good 05:57:46 and that's been fixed 05:57:50 great 05:57:58 i haven't found any other yet 06:00:52 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:05:35 -!- driftwood_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:09:24 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:15:04 -!- GyreAndGimble has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:18:38 -!- flappity has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:38 -!- Amy is now known as Guest6329 06:23:34 -!- darin has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253]] 06:25:29 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 06:26:58 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 06:29:39 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:32:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:39:37 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:42:37 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 06:53:04 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:03:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:17:42 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:54 -!- rj54x has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:23:51 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:29:37 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:34:37 -!- twofortypee has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:38:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:39:29 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 07:44:56 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:44 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:57:14 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:55 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:04:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:06:54 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:12:41 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:15:07 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:18:58 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:32:21 yikes, if any of your favourite projects are on sourceforge, please make them leave asap. 08:32:32 http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194 08:37:01 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:38:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:42:00 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:44 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:48:49 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:47 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:55:49 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:01 -!- _159 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:07:38 -!- ragan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:10:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:51 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:08 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:39:46 -!- driftwood_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:43:13 <|amethyst> TZer0: how will leaving sourceforge help? 09:43:54 gammafunk: Is there a way to look up a tavern poster by IP address? I want to know who dowan used to be. 09:44:21 <|amethyst> TZer0: the mirrors are projects that 1. were once on sourceforge but became inactive 2. (maybe) were never on sourceforge in the first place 09:44:48 <|amethyst> TZer0: I think the only way you can keep them from doing that at the moment is by having an active project on SF 09:44:50 I meant for active projects. 09:44:58 -!- rubinko has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:45:17 The mumble-project currently has some non-code activities at SF 09:45:30 and they still host some stable-installers there 09:45:39 but they're now talking about abandoning completely. 09:46:15 <|amethyst> but, yeah, we should stop hosting our files there 09:46:26 <|amethyst> so we can just tell people "don't download Crawl from sourceforge" 09:46:38 <|amethyst> rather than "first make sure the project maintainer isn't sf-editor 09:46:39 <|amethyst> " 09:46:48 indeed. 09:47:26 Lasty_: probably you can through moderator tools or something like that, but I haven't tried 09:47:41 gammafunk: I'm not sure you can. 09:47:43 I don't see a way 09:48:19 It feels weird to have a poster that's carrying grudges in from a previous account, but where the targets of the grudges have no idea who it is that's carrying them. 09:48:35 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:48:43 gammafunk: derp, I was confused, disregard what I'm saying. 09:51:08 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:52:49 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:04:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:43 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:05:37 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:07:43 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:09:47 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:10:27 Lasty_: do you have any actual evidence of your claim? 10:13:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:34 IMO unless a forum has a strict "no alts" rule, or there was reason to suspect someone used to be banned, I would be very uncomfortable if I learned that a mod was looking at my IP address 10:17:18 <|amethyst> I wouldn't mind that, but I would mind being outed as an alt 10:18:23 <|amethyst> No one must know that I and Cheibriados are the same person! 10:18:26 good point, that was more hitting the nail on the head 10:18:35 s/that was/you're 10:19:53 <|amethyst> I know there's at least one person who changed their nick etc (I don't know if they're still on tavern) to avoid a stalker 10:19:53 we need to remove the mod's authorization to store posting metadata 10:23:49 <|amethyst> (a RL stalker as I understand the situation, but I didn't ask for a lot of details) 10:25:24 wheals: the dowan username is a clear reference to the minmay's duvessa username, which a purely new user wouldn't do, and he clearly has a grudge against a few posters, which makes me think he's bringing some history with him. It's conceivable that he's a long-time lurker, first-time poster type, or that he's bringing a grudge from IRC, but I think on the balance it's more likely that it's someone who used to post under another name. 10:25:26 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:29:26 based on his initial posts i assumed he was new to the whole community 10:30:15 and if he did post before, i would respect his wishes to remain unconnected to that account, but i do understand your concerns 10:30:16 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:28 wheals: I don't really have concerns, just curiosity 10:30:42 He consistently treats me pretty badly, and I'd like to know why 10:30:47 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:34:41 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:38:59 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:40:08 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 10:43:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:48:58 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:18 Lasty_: pretty sure it's because he's an idiot; no need to go witch hunting 10:49:18 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:50:14 New branch created: beastreform (10 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/beastreform 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1211-g927cc1d: Remove chimerae 10(4 days ago, 28 files, 30+ 753-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/927cc1d8aadf 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1212-g05117e4: Add the basics of the 'mutant beast' monster 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05117e471e0f 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1213-g7f1cb8e: Scaffolding for mutant beasts 10(3 days ago, 7 files, 70+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f1cb8eddf79 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1214-ga6e035d: Display mutant beast info in their names 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 58+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6e035dbb986 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1215-g5cdde5d: Store mutant beast tier & facet in mon info 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 39+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cdde5d9f0c3 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1216-ga43b36e: Add crude mutant beast &m functionality 10(2 days ago, 7 files, 90+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a43b36eef41f 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1217-g2024029: Mutant beast facet functionality 10(9 hours ago, 7 files, 123+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2024029a40e4 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1218-gbcfd6dd: Allow the Box of Beasts to summon mutant beasts 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 33+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bcfd6dd4e324 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1219-g30e5692: Mutant beast tiles 10(8 hours ago, 5 files, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/30e56924a119 10:50:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1220-g208443d: Fix mutant beast monster info 10(8 hours ago, 5 files, 16+ 34-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/208443d5cc67 10:50:45 <|amethyst> THE FOOD OF THE GODS 10:51:31 |amethyst: ? 10:51:48 <|amethyst> Imagining giant mutant rats 10:52:08 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_of_the_Gods_(film) 10:52:20 <|amethyst> Golden Turkey Award for Worst Rodent Movie Of All Time 10:52:24 huh! 10:52:26 I had no idea 10:52:53 fwiw my mental image of them was the old lab rats, but then I found a cooler tile 10:53:37 are you sure that save compat is right 10:53:50 which save compat 10:53:55 removal or adding? 10:53:58 still on the first commit 10:54:04 ahh 10:54:33 <|amethyst> hm 10:54:34 <|amethyst> yeah 10:54:45 <|amethyst> when you added sinv to monster_info 10:55:03 it seemed to work in testing, iirc, but ofc I didn't have any extremely old chimera saves to test 10:55:05 <|amethyst> that means that you can't just remove M_GHOST_DEMON from a monster 10:55:21 <|amethyst> because it will desync 10:55:24 <|amethyst> you want not an old save 10:55:33 <|amethyst> but a chimera save from after you started marshalling that 10:55:41 <|amethyst> with a remembered but unseen chimera somewhere 10:55:47 speaking of branches, did any one check out job_data 10:55:51 i was thinking of merging that today 10:55:58 I read through part of it and didn't see problems 10:55:59 <|amethyst> (I guess unseen isn't important, just that there is a chimera monster_info on the map) 10:56:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:56:21 -!- fluffhead has quit [Quit: fluffhead] 10:56:47 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: this: 10:56:49 <|amethyst> if (mons_is_ghost_demon(mi.type)) 10:56:49 <|amethyst> #if TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 34 10:56:49 <|amethyst> if (th.getMinorVersion() >= TAG_MINOR_GHOST_SINV) 10:56:51 <|amethyst> #endif 10:56:54 <|amethyst> mi.i_ghost.can_sinv = unmarshallBoolean(th); 10:57:07 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if chimeras were a ghost demon when the game was saved, but are not a ghost demon now 10:57:18 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it's going to desync because it didn't read that boolean 10:57:52 hrm 10:58:02 <|amethyst> unless I'm missing something... 10:58:04 I didn't test after adding that code 10:58:15 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:58:37 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:58:55 <|amethyst> I think you can just add chimera as a (#ifdef-protected) special case in mons_is_ghost_demon 10:59:10 <|amethyst> probably simpler than finding a way to let AXED_MON set the flag 10:59:17 yeah 10:59:23 gonna test for the crash first 10:59:48 PleasingFungus: the problem you had with mon-info is due to https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cdde5d9f0c3#diff-d1c34e9aaccf962b6ce36db68889a68dR603 11:00:05 if it's just making a name, it returns before a lot of things are set 11:00:16 for performance, i suppose 11:00:49 nice 11:00:55 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 11:00:55 anyway using props was better anyway 11:01:03 I'm thinking of making a project of destroying ghost_demon 11:01:12 not sure whether to do it property-by-property or monster-by-monster 11:01:17 git checkout -b exorcism 11:01:18 -!- yxhuvvd is now known as yxhuvud 11:01:24 heh 11:01:42 |amethyst: yep, crash 11:02:03 !send PleasingFungus canaries 11:02:03 Sending canaries to PleasingFungus. 11:02:05 <|amethyst> yay analytic a priori debugging! 11:02:11 <|amethyst> I learned it by reading Kant! 11:02:50 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 11:04:13 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:05:06 hrm 11:05:09 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:23 ok, that works 11:05:48 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1221-ge749d89: Fix chimera save compat (|amethyst) 10(17 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e749d894f8e8 11:05:56 also 11:06:08 how much do you know about mspecs/mgen_info or w/e it's called 11:06:34 jesus christ, I have 103 stashed diffs... 11:06:40 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:07:07 // no space between <-- does this mean they're "batghost" or "stingshock" 11:07:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:07:11 <|amethyst> I've dealt with them a bit I think 11:07:11 yes 11:07:17 this is awesome 11:07:21 <3 11:07:30 http://sprunge.us/MNfF the props I set on the mspec vanish somewhere before they get to dungeon.cc 11:07:43 *before they get to dgn_place_monster 11:08:25 wheals: unfortunately, for technical reasons, the &m syntax currently looks like "juvenile bat-ghost mbeast" to generate a "juvenile batghost beast" 11:08:36 PleasingFungus: wasn't witch-hunting -- I had no intention of yelling about his alt-account or doing anything about it. It seems to be his only account, so that's fine. I was legitimately just curious. 11:09:01 imho curiosity is a lower priority than privacy in these kinds of cases 11:09:05 though I sympathise 11:09:07 as a curious person 11:09:45 PleasingFungus: does it work w/o that diff? 11:09:48 yes 11:09:58 let me double-check before i say that 11:10:12 yes 11:10:27 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so in that dprf in dungeon.cc, is it missing from the mg but present in the mspec, or missing in both? 11:10:33 missing in both 11:11:29 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 11:15:57 PleasingFungus: is there a commit explaining your goals for the new mutants? 11:16:16 besides "better code than chimerae" :D 11:16:55 the idea is to make the variation in properties meaningful, as opposed to "did I get a rat or did I get a dragon" box of beasts stuff 11:17:01 where you only really care how fat it is 11:17:59 Sounds neat! 11:18:28 so toughness/damage is unlinked from the traits ('facets'), and the facets are hand-crafted to make them very distinctive - a pal with fire breath and emergency berserk is going to be pretty different from a fast batty blinkbolter 11:18:37 (that's two facets each) 11:19:52 Around the time mumra was doing chimerae, I had proposed a version that was more like hydrae, where it would have a fixed number of heads from a small pool of heads with different traits. It sounds like yours will be a better version of the smaller-pool-of-more-interesting-traits direction 11:20:18 PleasingFungus: what if you add dprfs in wizard_create_spec_monster_name? 11:20:24 How will you display which facets your mutants get? 11:20:29 name 11:20:40 here: a juvenile sparkbat beast 11:21:01 presumably we will eventually heckle ontoclasm into making the tile show it 11:21:12 Presumably with a way to look up what the traits mean for players that haven't learned them yet 11:21:31 yes, description 11:21:39 also most of it just shows up in the description without special effort 11:21:48 the only thing that doesn't is invisibility, and I don't like that facet anyway 11:22:16 it's just tough because ghost demons can only have one attack type & attack flavour, so I couldn't have a trampler or a constrictor 11:22:25 since I already had a reacher 11:22:53 wheals: testing now 11:23:01 PleasingFungus: imo add demon facet 11:23:10 here: a juvenile ghostdemon beast 11:23:15 haha 11:24:21 Those beasts must be so offended that you keep calling them juvenile 11:26:15 Really, it's a sign of my own immaturity. 11:26:42 wheals: props are missing by the time they get to the wiz thing 11:26:47 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: parse_mons_spec looks like it throws away most of the stuff it gets from the parsed spec? 11:26:52 also, you should rename "sting" "wasp" 11:27:00 !source parse_mons_spec 11:27:00 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mapdef.cc#l3738 11:27:02 so we can finally have sparkwasps...! 11:27:05 wheals: surely that'd have para, though? 11:27:10 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: see mspec.beast_facets = nspec.beast_facets 11:27:12 also, I'm still planning to add sparkwasps!!! 11:27:17 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: there's nothing like that for props 11:28:03 ahh 11:28:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: but I don't know what the implications would be of just copying the whole props hash 11:28:39 if (nheads < 1) 11:28:39 nheads = 27; // What can I say? :P 11:28:46 I will strike strategically 11:28:47 PleasingFungus: @crawlcode 11:28:49 and tacitcally 11:28:51 *tactically 11:28:53 *tacticoolly 11:29:06 <|amethyst> I will strike tacitly! 11:29:10 You can have sparkwasps and I can't have acid bees?!?! The injustice!!!! 11:29:11 * |amethyst beats PleasingFungus in silence 11:29:25 here: a mature buggybat beast 11:29:26 hm. 11:29:49 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:29:53 "mature" means it has developed an appreciation for wine and is eligible for military service. 11:30:17 ah, bonus bug 11:30:22 anyway, looks like that did it. thanks! 11:30:24 they already won their war vs the chimeras 11:30:30 never forget 11:30:37 <|amethyst> "mature" means it starts in specialty porn 11:30:43 <|amethyst> s/start/star/ 11:30:48 also, i should remove mons_spec::number. 11:30:55 one day 11:31:03 <|amethyst> The internet has ruined the word "mature" for me :P 11:31:28 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:32:18 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1222-g8c1e35a: Remove the mgen/mspec beast_facets fields 10(19 seconds ago, 5 files, 17+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8c1e35a9a1ff 11:32:54 oh right, also mgen_data::number 11:35:01 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:59 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:37:17 03PleasingFungus02 07[beastreform] * 0.17-a0-1223-g6a28f94: Reject invalid beast facets 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6a28f946f301 11:42:53 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:53:19 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.1/20150513174244]] 11:57:23 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:57:33 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:37 -!- radinms has quit [] 12:01:46 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:04:59 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:49 -!- Zauren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:08:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:58 |amethyst: Cheibriados seems to not have been announcing mantis tickets since the server change 12:09:11 <|amethyst> hmm 12:09:24 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:10:01 <|amethyst> LWP Request Failed at /home/szorg/perl5/lib/perl5/XML/SAX/PurePerl/Reader/URI.pm line 51. 12:10:34 <|amethyst> not the most helpful of messages 12:11:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 12:11:43 <|amethyst> wonder why, I can access the rss uri just fine 12:11:52 -!- fluffhead has quit [Quit: fluffhead] 12:12:32 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:13:23 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 12:14:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:14:32 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:19:22 -!- PleasingFungus_ is now known as PleasingFungus 12:23:04 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:05 -!- ttttt is now known as ldf_ 12:27:31 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 12:27:32 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 12:28:04 <|amethyst> aha 12:28:10 <|amethyst> LWP Request Failed: 501 Protocol scheme 'https' is not supported (LWP::Protocol::https not installed) 12:29:08 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:30:01 ! 12:34:56 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:56 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 12:34:57 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 12:35:16 Weird crash message with wielding the Glaive the Prune 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9749 by nago 12:35:16 Formicids: 2015 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9752 by pubby 12:35:16 Gargoyle monster does not give Oka Piety 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9750 by Le_Nerd 12:35:16 NO GOD placeholder in anubis guard ally flavor text 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9747 by noobcanoe 12:35:16 flame clouds in doors vanish when vault wardens step into it 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9748 by Kolbur 12:35:16 Wonky Monster Battlesphere 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9746 by Arrhythmia 12:35:33 <|amethyst> there we go 12:37:15 <|amethyst> !tell wheals chei mantis reporting is fixed, thanks! 12:37:15 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 12:37:42 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:24 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:43:47 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 12:44:33 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:47:21 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49:37 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:52:19 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:53:24 PleasingFungus: thanks for commits! 12:53:44 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:57 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:05:19 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:28 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:15 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:13:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:47 dpeg: (: 13:18:37 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1210-g1e4f09d (34) 13:19:32 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:45 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:59 -!- Gorgo_ is now known as Gorgo 13:27:48 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:28:54 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:29:14 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:34:01 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:35:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:38:58 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:34 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:38 -!- twofortypee has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:48:50 -!- megane has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:14 -!- copt has quit [] 13:53:19 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:22 -!- megane has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:58:31 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:59:39 heinrich (L25 TeGl) ASSERT(range >= 0) in 'beam.cc' at line 592 failed. 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MOAR bad amuletts! 16:01:49 "faith is great 16:02:07 <|amethyst> bad non-randart amulets are mostly pointless while remove curse exists 16:03:13 <|amethyst> (or identify, depending on how your character feels about "faith) 16:05:37 k. only one more thing before I leave you in peace, 0.17 says something mysterious about tm revamp, any spoilerinos= 16:06:09 <|amethyst> probably want to check wiki history and see who added that bit 16:06:13 <|amethyst> then ask them specifically :) 16:07:31 Im on the job 16:07:34 -!- APerson_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07:41 -!- Senjaii has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:09:20 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:09:41 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:24 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:09 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:25:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:56 the answer is "it's left over from plans I had during 0.16" 16:25:58 btw 16:26:10 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:30:44 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:58 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:36:21 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:21 The build passed. 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Use !messages to read it. 17:23:20 !messages 17:23:20 (1/1) |amethyst said (4h 46m 5s ago): chei mantis reporting is fixed, thanks! 17:23:34 ok ty 17:23:37 -!- halberd has left ##crawl-dev 17:25:23 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:25:38 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 17:28:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:16 hm, mantis seems to still think 0.16 is the latest version 17:29:26 or think that it's trunk, rather 17:30:18 0.16 prerelease probably 17:30:31 is anyone but Grunt (and the Nap King) an admin? 17:31:01 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:32:50 it's a mystery. 17:32:53 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:30 rpophessagr (L15 HOAK) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 578: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (D:13) 17:34:12 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:34:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:36:13 -!- ohyou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37:49 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:40:15 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:41:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:03 !crashlog 17:43:03 11306. rpophessagr, XL15 HOAK, T:29539 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/rpophessagr/crash-rpophessagr-20150603-213323.txt 17:43:16 been missing that crash message 17:43:32 it's like an old friend 17:43:37 bringing back memories of asterion 17:45:08 -!- sinusoidal_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:47:01 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49:32 -!- Gurmil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:49:46 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:53:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:43 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:44 The build passed. (beastreform - 6a28f94 #2743 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/65265613 17:53:45 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:54:17 !function get_monster_info 17:54:17 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:54:17 1/3. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/clua/autofight.lua#l128 17:54:49 !function get_monster_info 2 17:54:49 2/3. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/clua/automagic.lua#l113 17:54:51 !function get_monster_info 3 17:54:52 3/3. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-info.cc#l1868 18:02:02 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:05:22 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 18:06:14 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:07 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1210-g1e4f09d (34) 18:07:18 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Client Quit] 18:08:09 !function get_dist_to_nearest_monster 18:08:10 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#l4341 18:13:23 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:50 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:14:53 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:18:55 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:26:27 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:26:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:55 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:36:57 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:42 -!- Tux[Qwow] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:46:09 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:55 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:48:07 !function handle_seen_interrupt 18:48:08 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/view.cc#l80 18:49:19 -!- quik has quit [Quit: Preferiste a dormir conmigo pasar las noches sola soñando] 18:49:31 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:52:07 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:55:20 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:56:18 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 19:01:52 !function _mons_is_valid_target 19:01:52 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/directn.cc#l2300 19:03:37 !function _mons_is_always_safe 19:03:37 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/misc.cc#l156 19:07:18 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 19:08:50 -!- DDFig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:07 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:09:29 -!- dethmo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:03 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:22:19 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 19:34:02 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:57 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:39:40 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:41:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:43:17 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:50:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:53:50 -!- Syndicus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:54:09 man, did anyone else know about s and e subcommands in git add -p 19:54:18 -!- Syndicus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:25 e in particular is something I really wanted but didn't know it existed 19:54:38 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:23 <|amethyst> I use s pretty frequently, but not e so much 19:55:33 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:53 yes, i use s and e. e is much rarer of course 19:55:57 so easy to mess it up 19:57:04 s is probably good enough for most situations, but e is good if there's just changes you don't want in the commit that are really close 19:57:17 probably depends on how much discipline you have in making commits after a change 19:57:37 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:58:43 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:58:52 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:00:49 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:01:40 -!- airwolf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:03:40 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:44 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:06:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.1/20150513174244]] 20:07:45 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:04 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:20 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:13:21 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 20:17:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:11 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Client Quit] 20:18:54 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:18:55 i use them a lot personally 20:19:06 still don't remember to swap to the right branch when making changes 20:20:43 -!- fluffhead has quit [Quit: fluffhead] 20:21:08 Remove chimerae They're a fun idea, but in practice they never really added up to more than the sum of their parts. <-- stop pleasingfungus before he kills us with these puns 20:26:14 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:27:54 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:32:11 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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