00:00:03 man, what a great thing github is -- look at that js patch 00:00:14 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.1/20150513174244]] 00:01:59 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1133-gfb1399f (34) 00:08:34 second patch posted 00:11:29 -!- Yll has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:12:34 -!- AndroUser has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1133-gfb1399f (34) 00:16:53 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:24:17 is there a better way to get a player skill as a float than this: const float skill_level = (float) you.skill(skill, 10) / 10 00:27:53 -!- AndroUser has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:29:53 dumb github question. if I want to merge that js pull request, I tried doing git cherry-pick 4d2b24f74bb but it didn't work 00:32:06 did you fetch the commit locally first? what error message did you get? 00:33:27 03chequers02 07[pull/42] * 0.17-a0-1116-geb9026e: Explicitly reveal mindelay skill to the player. 10(16 hours ago, 3 files, 29+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb9026e90aee 00:34:34 chequers: oh. I did a git checkout master; git pull origin master; git checkout mybranch; git cherry-pick 4d2b24f74bb 00:34:41 fatal: ambiguous argument '4d2b24f74bb': unknown revision or path not in the working tree. 00:34:50 but maybe pull origin master doesn't pull the pull requests 00:34:58 it doesn't 00:35:10 pull requests are available as branches 00:35:12 yea. that's what it seems like 00:35:16 oh 00:35:23 https://help.github.com/articles/checking-out-pull-requests-locally/ 00:38:11 git fetch origin pull/ID/head:BRANCHNAME 00:38:39 soo.... git fetch origin pull/4d2b24f74bb/head:mybranch ? 00:41:37 yes 00:41:46 you can change your git config to get pull requests automatically 00:41:48 if you like 00:44:51 fatal: Couldn't find remote ref pull/4d2b24f74bb/head 00:45:03 I'm completely misunderstanding something still 00:46:05 -!- mp[crawl] is now known as magicpoints 00:46:23 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:08 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:47:09 johnstein: you'll want to add the ref to your git config 00:47:11 one sec 00:47:32 johnstein: I add fetch = +refs/pull/*:refs/remotes/origin/pull/* 00:47:44 right below the existing fetch 00:47:56 this is for the origin remote btw 00:48:04 then when you update origin, you'll see those pull refs 00:48:25 you can refer to them as branches using origin/pull/head/ 00:48:34 but you'll also see this name when you update 00:48:45 -!- Furril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:44 -!- raskol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51:03 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:51:03 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:51:31 gammafunk: thanks. I've never messed with pull requests much (obvious) 00:51:52 basically you can check them out like they're branches once you've done that 00:52:12 and the commits are cherry-pickable? 00:52:19 they're just normal branches, so 00:52:32 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1133-gfb1399f 00:52:33 just means I have to use the website to figure out what 'refs/pull/36/head' is 00:52:37 you could do something like 'git checkout -b pr33 origin/pull/head/33' 00:52:45 since the IDs are pretty opaque 00:52:46 johnstein: no you can use git log 00:53:13 git log origin/pull/head/33 00:53:33 I mean, I would have to do that for every single pull request 00:53:42 but yeah, if you're not sure which one it might be easier to check the website first 00:53:44 looks like pull requests don't have a 'shortname' or something 00:53:58 so sounds like there's a very strong connection to the website 00:54:04 if I want to know what's what 00:54:07 they don't, but as new ones come in, they show up as new refs in the fetch 00:54:19 so you're generally going to know, and they're also sequential 00:55:27 fatal: ambiguous argument 'origin/pull/head/33': unknown revision or path not in the working tree. 00:55:35 when trying to git log origin/pull/head/33 00:55:40 what did you see when you did the fetch 00:55:48 of origin, I mean 00:55:53 (and did you fetch origin) 00:56:23 git fetch origin will get you any new branches 00:56:27 git fetch origin --all 00:56:32 perhaps, depending on your git version 00:56:56 you don't need --all in recent git, at least 00:57:00 http://pastebin.com/MHqZsvsR 00:57:09 yea I did a git fetch origin 00:57:19 looks like maybe I Have some permission issues to sort out 00:57:22 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:57:31 johnstein: no sorry, look at those names 00:57:38 origin/pull//head 00:57:40 johnstein: pull/33/head, not pull/head/33 00:57:44 yeah 00:57:45 oh. yea I transposed the heads 00:57:46 oops 00:57:51 that was my fault, I think 00:58:05 well, I was wondering why you transposed them. but I just copied/pasted blindly 00:58:06 but yeah, you do have permissions issues 00:58:19 since I absolutely trust anything I see in here and will gladly paste and run it 00:58:27 probably want to sudo chown -R www-data: ~/crawl-dev/crawl 00:58:42 dont blindly copy and paste that, i didn't check it very hard :P 00:58:58 yea. I have to do that on occasion it seems. I think it's the weak interaction with the dgamelaunch setup 00:59:11 where if I use the scripts only, things work well since things get elevated 00:59:28 but when I poke around the dbro source manually as crawl-dev, I occasionally run into blocks. 01:01:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:03:47 |amethyst: oh, I guess you have to delete my 0.16 game 01:04:02 it must have crashed before, but it's still trying to load meatsprint 01:04:18 gammafunk (L10 DESu) (D:11) 01:06:46 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:10:31 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:11:12 -!- BanMido has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:22 -!- copt has quit [] 01:23:46 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:30:03 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:30:12 can someone remind me how to navigate stupid submodule issues? 01:30:14 http://pastebin.com/W0a5buai 01:30:26 I got that after trying to git submodule update --init 01:30:54 I 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seconds] 12:05:08 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1133-gfb1399f (34) 12:05:13 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:05:58 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:07:28 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:46 -!- robbje has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:14:05 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:14:45 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:15:36 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:20:48 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:01 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:21:25 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:26:43 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:40 fr all the damn prompts are controlled by tavern_mode setting in .crawlrc 12:29:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:30:58 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:55 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:34:24 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:37:25 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:39:29 Confuse + Ensorcelled Hibernation 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9743 by nat6432 12:39:29 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:51:54 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:34 -!- serq has quit [Quit: und weg...] 13:00:09 -!- robbje has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:03:28 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:10:18 Lasty: your corrosion commit claims that it leaves in the check for barehandedness making you take acid damage from M_ACID_SPLASH 13:10:35 but it actually does remove it (and makes all attacks cause damage), was that intentional? 13:11:28 (i think the current behaviour is a better way for it to work anyway, just curious) 13:12:36 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:13:42 -!- SCP-076-2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:11 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:22 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:35 -!- 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Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 16:14:10 <|amethyst> %git 16:14:10 Could not find commit HEAD (git returned 128) 16:14:14 <|amethyst> hmm 16:15:19 <|amethyst> %git 16:15:19 07Corin Buchanan-Howland02 * 0.17-a0-1133-gfb1399f: Take a step towards standardizing corrosion conditions 10(20 hours ago, 2 files, 11+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fb1399fb3e48 16:16:06 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:17:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:03 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:24:37 weird, why is Lasty's commit not using mailmap? 16:24:53 -!- aves_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:25:35 Lasty: Also, I like your randomly generated github profile pic at https://github.com/cbuchananhowland 16:26:00 That piece is so useful when you get it! 16:26:53 -!- Cerepol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:32:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:33:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:33:49 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 16:36:31 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:00 there's more recent stuff than that on github i think 16:37:03 at least i hope there is 16:40:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:02 The build failed. 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(D:17) 17:05:52 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:07:41 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:22 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:01 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:24:05 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:24:22 -!- cribozai has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:27:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:33:39 03Nicholas Feinberg02 07* 0.17-a0-1137-g5f1d5c7: Simplify ash penance/invisibility interaction 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5f1d5c7c878b 17:33:39 03Nicholas Feinberg02 07* 0.17-a0-1138-g5a53fdc: Pull a function out of handle_behaviour 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 28+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a53fdc90f9a 17:33:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:43 gammafunk: amalloy is right; 'bug' is the wrong term 17:33:57 ...hm, why is it using that name... 17:34:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:34:20 I wonder if there's something wrong with mailmap 17:34:34 gammafunk: I agree that it should be changed; I'm not sure of the right fix 17:34:35 I'm ok with using bug for gameplay problems!!!! 17:34:37 haha 17:34:47 do you want me to point you to the relevant code? 17:34:58 It's because i'm a Video Game Designer and you're merely a programmer. 17:35:02 !source mon-gear.cc:127 17:35:02 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-gear.cc#l127 17:35:05 ty 17:35:07 although 17:35:15 in all seriousness, I'm not sure how best to address this 17:35:40 special casing teleport the wand is one way, but that seems a bit odd; do we want monsters to have teleport wands? 17:35:47 I mean 17:35:58 and if not, we're making the distribution of teleport wands different from other wands (and is this a problem) 17:36:20 I think what'd I'd probably do is just remove the re-roll code for monster wand generation 17:36:40 and optionally make odds of wands slightly higher 17:36:47 (don't think that's necessary, though) 17:37:00 -!- jmr_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:37 so you mean remove this loop with the comment // this is very ugly and I should rethink it 17:37:42 yes 17:37:51 ok 17:38:14 this will make non-ijyb early uniques (e.g. jessica, terence) slightly less likely to have wands 17:39:10 oh, so what'll happen is that the monster will just reject a wand it doesn't like, rolling a new item type 17:39:23 instead of, yes 17:39:55 that does seem fairly reasonable, but this issue of monsters and wands of teleport...I feel it still exists 17:40:01 Was it an issue before? 17:40:21 well, do we ever want e.g. eresh or other patrolling pan lords to have /tele? 17:40:25 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:40:30 I think it's funny if they very occasionally do. 17:40:49 I agree it is amusing, but it's strictly worse for the monster in terms of guarding the rune 17:40:56 v0v 17:41:09 is that terrible? 17:41:36 the funny thing about v0v is that Grunt was using it for the longest time, all during which I thought he was throwing up heavy metal horns because he was excited about my idea 17:41:41 hahaha 17:41:46 I don't know why I thought that 17:42:04 Yeah I agree it's both amusing and not a terribly big deal 17:42:08 I mean, I don't think you need to worry about distribution of tele wands. I don't think uniques are a critical source of wands 17:43:09 chequers: yes, I think you're removing the entire point of the ghoul species, and I expect that removal would follow soon after. I don't understand what role your ghouls are meant to fill that mummies don't. 17:43:16 I guess that could've been a tell. w/e 17:44:40 I think the only monsters for which them having tele wands arguably causes a problem are the extended bosses, my comment was more about earlier uniques, which are an important source of high level wands 17:45:22 03Nicholas Feinberg02 07* 0.17-a0-1139-g49cbdf8: Tweak unique wand distribution 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/49cbdf8586b8 17:45:23 but I dont' think earlier uniques having tele wands is a problem, no 17:45:23 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:45:23 and special casing the later ones is kind of bad and as you say them having it is not the end of the world 17:45:53 weird, what is goin on with mailmap? 17:45:58 I'm also wondering that 17:46:57 PleasingFungus: oh, hrm 17:47:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 17:47:05 are you rerolling the item there? 17:47:09 looks like you're just giving nothing 17:47:16 but I don't know how the calling code works 17:47:17 I am giving nothing. 17:47:34 cruel... 17:47:53 We'd want to reroll the item ideally though, yes? 17:49:00 No. 17:49:50 That is exactly, precisely, and exclusively the behaviour that I'm removing, because it leads to late-game uniques having very high rates of 'power wands'. Which seems unnecessary. 17:50:13 -!- lukano has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:50:14 !crashlog maplemancer 17:50:15 1. maplemancer, XL19 OgHu, T:57422 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/maplemancer/crash-maplemancer-20150525-210547.txt 17:50:41 weird crash 17:50:51 I wonder if it's related to the unlinked item bug 17:50:53 that'd be nice 17:50:59 I see; I guess I was thinking if the monster rerolls item type though, they're very likely to get something else instead of a wand, but perhaps this is bad because it's giving item base types a different, unseen distribution 17:51:07 which is why acquire code is so weird I guess! 17:51:24 Oh. I misunderstood you. 17:51:43 Monsters getting wands is independent of them getting other stuff. 17:51:58 It's possible for monsters to get both wands and scrolls, for example. 17:51:58 ah, I see 17:52:04 ok, that's great then 17:52:13 (: 17:52:23 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:52:25 !blame3 doy 17:52:25 doooooyyyyy 17:52:36 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:53:49 Sorry if I'm a little snappish; I'm in a bad mood today for no good reason. 17:54:01 trying not to take it out on other people but I'm bad. 17:54:58 -!- CacoS_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:56:24 no worries, I did not even detect said bad mood (perhaps try harder next time) 17:56:49 ??roleplaying 17:56:49 roleplaying[1/1]: an orc comes out of nowhere! i hate them because they burned my village down once i yell the name of trog and go into a berserk rage at the sight of the orc RARRGRAHA 17:57:01 ^ pretend I did this 17:57:18 like if u cry erry time... 17:57:24 mikee posted in tavern today 17:57:27 ! 17:58:34 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:58:56 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:25 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1139-g49cbdf8 (34) 18:02:25 !vault spiders_nest_spider_trap 18:02:25 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des#l315 18:02:53 i just ran into this vault, and it looks like the "trap" part of it is missing, btu the warning is left? that is, there's no z on the map anywhere, and i walked all over it trying to provoke spiders to fall on my head, but they never did 18:03:39 sad 18:06:28 -!- newt\Menche is now known as lichens\Menche 18:08:23 -!- WhatIsLove has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:08:30 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:58 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:24:16 -!- ohyou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:10 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:26:45 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:46 The build was fixed. (master - 5a53fdc #2686 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/64010460 18:26:46 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:27:49 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:29:40 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:53 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:15 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:15 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37:58 gammafunk: i think a fork is coming along real soon. if all this ‘crawl is too hard, let’s remove everything that makes it real and make it into a computer rulebook simulation’ stuff keeps going on, i’ll be attempting one in a few months myself, after some groundwork and research. 18:38:30 quit reading my private blog!!!! 18:38:41 is this on wordpress 18:40:09 03Nicholas Feinberg02 07* 0.17-a0-1140-g2143632: Changelog through 0.17-a0-1139-g49cbdf8 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2143632ee97e 18:40:10 ya 18:40:10 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-25-may-2015 also, changelog post up 18:40:10 (the comment is on the previous one) 18:40:14 it's important that the groundwork and the research be kept seperate 18:40:19 those are distinct phases 18:40:36 repeating for emphasis is a valuable & crucial authorial techinque. 18:40:50 I endorse & approve of it thoroughly & completely. 18:41:28 hrm, methinks chei forgot how the mailmap works 18:41:35 seems like it 18:41:43 "Storm card’s summoning of twisters was one of the coolest deck effects, period. Why not get rid of something lame like Water instead?" 18:42:00 I don't know what to say, honestly 18:42:08 oh does it still exist 18:42:10 ??water_card 18:42:10 water card[1/3]: Places a lot of water around you. At card power 0, radius is 4 and is always shallow. At card power 1 or 2, radius is 6 or LOS respectively, and makes deep water 50% of the time. Won't affect trapped squares unless card power is 2. 18:42:15 ??water_card[2 18:42:15 water card[2/3]: Be careful of any monsters and items you don't want to drown. Be careful using it near stashes, you will lose them. 18:42:17 ??water_card[3 18:42:17 water card[3/3]: !lm clouded uniq="the royal jelly" 74 -tv 18:42:18 hm 18:42:23 I think there's a new water card 18:42:31 yeah, that may be why I'm confused 18:43:07 I see, creates shallow water, water elementals, electric eels 18:43:56 hrm, reading _water_card, I'm not sure why it has two shallow water creating code blocks 18:44:12 three if you count two calls to create_feat_splash 18:44:28 \ So last night I dreamt that PleasingFungus had added an extremely annoying and lethal new vault guard-type enemy. So annoying in fact, that I'm refusing to post details for fear that he'll steal the idea and go ahead and actually implement it. 18:44:33 and, er 18:44:38 haha 18:44:48 hm 18:44:59 the indent of create_feat_splash is wrong in a suspicious way 18:45:14 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:46:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:32 I did have that one dream where I was testing a combination of a stupid new weapon effect and a 3D interface. the stupid weapon effect should have warned me... a week or so later BC....n said he was poking at the 3D part 18:46:56 not that I have any intention of playtesting any change he makes... 18:49:02 (the weapon effect was M&F could hit "blind" around corners, with a stab bonus, 50% chance of missing anything there, and 80% chance that a miss left it embedded in the wall. which was abusable as implemented.) 18:49:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:50:31 -!- ly^ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:01:27 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:26 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:05:32 -!- ebering_ is now known as ebering 19:07:29 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:39 -!- lichens\Menche is now known as Lichens\Menche 19:09:19 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:23 The build was fixed. (master - 49cbdf8 #2687 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/64011429 19:09:23 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:19:13 PleasingFungus: what's your rigorous and scientific process for deciding on worthiness for inclusion in the changelog 19:19:26 why is cboe with < 2 int included but not dex no longer affecting blade traps! 19:20:46 s/changelog/wordpress thingy/ 19:22:11 I imagine nobody either knew about or noticed the latter 19:23:09 but they noticed the former??? 19:24:13 the game would at least tell you if they managed to hit it 19:24:21 how would you even know about the dex thing? 19:24:33 without reading the source 19:25:25 that's also true of dex affecting door creakiness then, but that is included in the wordpress! 19:26:00 this is important stuff, i demand equality for tiny obscure commits 19:26:09 MarvinPA: by changelog do you mean wordpress or the actual changelog? 19:26:22 the wordpress post 19:26:30 that's basically the wild, wild west 19:26:35 you have to lobby him or kill him 19:37:45 -!- speranza has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:48 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:44:15 is "unholy" vs "evil" still a thing 19:44:21 i think it's not? 19:44:43 oh maybe it is, hmm 19:47:07 MarvinPA: whim, whimsy 19:47:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:48:38 hmm it looks like unholy items exist but not unholy monsters/players?? i can't even tell what unholy vs evil items are 19:49:31 or rather, when there would be a case where someone cares about one but not the other 19:50:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:59:37 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:02:16 <|amethyst> I don't think there are currently cases that care 20:02:22 <|amethyst> but it could make sense for future gods 20:02:43 <|amethyst> the distinction in general is undead/necro = evil, demonic = unholy 20:08:11 03Neil Moore02 07* 0.17-a0-1141-g3e25b61: Fix a changelog typo. 10(48 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3e25b617bbd0 20:13:01 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:13:37 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:16:42 -!- Syndicus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:36 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:20:26 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:24:11 PleasingFungus: i think there are still pretty big differences between gh and mu even if you remove rotting when hungry 20:24:12 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:24:18 !messages 20:24:18 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (2h 37m 7s ago): your ghouls seem to be just 'mummies that aren't shit' and I don't think that's a species crawl needs (disregard this if you got my earlier message) 20:24:35 chequers: sure, they can drink potions and have decent apts 20:25:14 hmm, i don't mind rotting in general, just rotting when not hungry. How would you feel about changing ghouls to only rot at Hungry and below at higher rates than current? 20:25:26 aside: can rot kill you? 20:25:37 in 0.15- 20:26:17 what about adding *rot (ala *corrode) 20:26:45 and uh I guess *statdrain 20:27:52 also, yeah, something along those lines sounds more reasonable (rotting only when Hungry) but I'd have to think about it 20:30:31 sounds like it wouldn't change much 20:30:50 just less annoying 20:31:29 if anything you'd eat more? currently it's less important to eat stuff while satiated and not rotted, with rotting only while hungry you'd always eat everything to avoid hitting hungry 20:33:04 my current playstle: butcher everything until ~lair, then only butcher enough to always have 1 chunk in my inventory 20:33:41 so I think for my style I wouldn't really change, it would just involve less random 1 point rotting 20:33:48 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:20 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:36:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:38:59 i just eat constantly as gh to heal up after fights 20:39:05 and that handles the hunger as well 20:40:13 what the heck is the >>= operator? 20:40:21 oh, an inplace shift 20:40:37 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:58 Unstable branch on crawl.buzz updated to: 0.17-a0-1141-g3e25b61 (34) 20:44:04 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:45:30 -!- carwin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:47:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:50:13 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:59:48 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:49 The build has errored. (master - 3e25b61 #2689 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/64023791 20:59:49 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:04:49 <|amethyst> doh, forgot [skip ci] 21:08:00 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:09:05 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:02 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:14:56 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07[pull/38] * 0.17-a0-1142-g361d5bb: Tweak Ghoul random rotting. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/361d5bb7624d 21:18:38 |amethyst: do you know why mailmap is currently not working for chei? 21:19:33 -!- therealfakemoot has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 21:19:43 <|amethyst> oh 21:19:43 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:19:53 <|amethyst> switched to a new server, maybe a git version difference 21:20:14 <|amethyst> (s-z.org switched wholesale I mean, not just Chei) 21:24:14 oh 21:24:29 someone was telling me that the s-z gitweb is broken, but I referred them to github's 21:24:43 but I guess that'd explain the broken gitweb as well 21:25:43 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:45 i much prefer seeing real names 21:27:17 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:28:39 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:21 it's better for shorter chei lines and also matching irc names with commit authors 21:30:35 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:33:39 |amethyst: there's something weird going on with Laraso's game where 63 anons are joining 21:33:47 it seems to be one person opening many tabs? 21:34:53 doy: re gh rotting: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16237 21:35:35 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:37:17 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I think so, but they just closed so 21:37:22 <|amethyst> 72.192.76.201 21:37:39 |amethyst: yeah there's still 34 21:37:39 <|amethyst> hm, why isn't git log doing the right thing? 21:38:00 you're using --use-mailmap? 21:38:32 <|amethyst> too old for that, but %aN was supposed to respect mailmap anyway 21:39:21 oh, I thought you meant you were too old to use that 21:39:30 "doesn't really seem like a generational thing, |amethyst..." 21:39:39 <|amethyst> I'm upgrading to newer git now 21:40:11 ah, chei is directly giving git log output, I should have realized 21:42:41 <|amethyst> there we go 21:42:43 <|amethyst> %git pull/38 21:42:43 07chequers02 * 0.17-a0-1142-g361d5bb: Tweak Ghoul random rotting. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/361d5bb7624d 21:43:07 <|amethyst> hm, now what about the gitweb 21:43:32 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt;hb=HEAD 21:43:39 500 - Open git-ls-tree failed 21:43:55 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:44:20 <|amethyst> oh, probably has a different PATH 21:45:08 <|amethyst> aha 21:45:27 <|amethyst> was executing git from a different user's directory 21:45:32 <|amethyst> which didn't get transferring 21:45:37 <|amethyst> s/ing/ed/ 21:45:39 <|amethyst> fixed now 21:47:35 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:17 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:49:20 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:27 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 21:51:18 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:55:40 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:56:15 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:58:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:59:49 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:35 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:09 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:13 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:08:16 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:24 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 22:10:56 -!- Lichens\Menche is now known as Menche|Lichens 22:14:53 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:26 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:25:18 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:13 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:27:00 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:29:00 -!- Chance672 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:36:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:37:29 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:40:44 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:43:50 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:01 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54:59 -!- BOTBrad has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:00:51 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:03:46 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:04:12 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:21:31 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:22:09 -!- botbrad has quit [Client Quit] 23:31:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:46:57 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:37 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:41 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 23:50:45 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:58 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:59:29 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1141-g3e25b61 (34)