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Probably, XL27 HOBe, T:98950 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Probably/crash-Probably-20150522-050923.txt 00:10:16 <|amethyst> hm, sigterm inside lua? 00:10:33 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1115-g0372368 (34) 00:11:59 -!- allbefore has quit [Client Quit] 00:13:24 -!- Guest49820 is now known as SwissStopwatch 00:17:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:19:11 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1115-g0372368 (34) 00:22:20 demorgan? 00:22:40 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:22:48 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:22:50 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Morgan%27s_laws 00:23:55 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:26:24 heh, I was thinking de-morgan, as in to remove morgan 00:26:36 wow maths, i'm not a brainiac over here 00:27:13 ("that's obvious!" from the peanut gallery) 00:30:47 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping 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07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-28-gcc2312f: Tweak the shield offset of the orc warlord tile 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc2312f82fe0 02:51:30 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:56:45 Missing text message when attacking with staff of earth 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9738 by tasonir 03:08:46 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:17:14 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:21:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:04 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:52 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Client Quit] 03:39:55 -!- JoeMaro has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:10 constantly crashing today .... upgraded to git-version but same error: yak makes the crash? http://pastebin.com/nM8CaxWe 03:44:49 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:55:24 install gdb 03:55:40 wait what? you're a yak? 03:55:53 are you starting a new game? 03:56:08 :) no it happens when i choose high elf 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ZZZzzz…] 18:35:23 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:18 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 18:53:11 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:53:11 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 18:54:16 Weird 3x3 splotches on my map 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9739 by amalloy 18:56:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59:22 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:44 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:21 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:08:44 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:56 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:13:33 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:16:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:20:55 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:40 apparently tavern still really like racial items 19:22:45 likes* 19:29:36 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:33:45 -!- SCP-076-2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:43:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:51:56 -!- gruegirl has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 19:57:11 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 19:58:58 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:59:50 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:50 me too 20:07:58 or more generally: weapon variations 20:16:15 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23:22 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:47 -!- fluffhead has quit [Client Quit] 20:38:49 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:47:52 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:36 -!- halv has quit [Quit: halv] 20:57:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:01:39 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:05:13 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:07:01 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:07:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 21:07:28 -!- Syndicus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:09:06 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16.1-28-gcc2312f 21:11:09 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:49 -!- halv has quit [Quit: halv] 21:20:24 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:34:19 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:37:58 -!- mp[crawl] has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:43 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:44:23 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:52:50 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:57:10 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 21:58:10 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:59:41 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 22:06:32 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:08:26 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:15:11 -!- zcm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:57 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:33:33 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:49 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:36:58 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:04 i disagree vehemently 22:37:04 nicolae-: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:37:06 what the 22:37:07 !messages 22:37:08 (1/1) gammafunk said (1d 23h 30m 18s ago): If you can install ccache, that helps speed compilation up a lot 22:37:32 i should look into it but i must stress how little effort i usually put into these things 22:39:49 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:41:33 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:41:47 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:57 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 22:51:26 nicolae-: then you don't *deserve* ccache! 22:51:37 i don't deserve a lot of things, and yet, 22:52:10 also i wanted to run some unrand design questions past you. i got the base idea of my unrand working first try (axe that leaves clouds on a monster when you hit them) but i have some questions about the specifics 22:52:46 such as: should i print a message when a cloud is generated. it's sort of obvious for monsters (and it says "the whatever is engulfed in freezing vapors" the first time the damage goes off) but there's no message for the player 22:53:30 Yeah, I guess you'd want to 22:53:53 I'm not sure if there's an equivalent thing for monsters leaving clouds on the the player wehre 22:53:56 *where 22:54:01 it's not through the use of an ability or spell 22:54:11 oh, draconian breath 22:54:15 if it misses 22:54:30 not sure how that's messaged 22:54:59 ah but really that applies to other cloud breath abilities as well, as they can technically miss I'm sure 22:55:04 what's the format for that, mprf("The air freezes around %s", defender->name( what goes here )->c.str() 22:55:06 hrm, maybe crab breath can't 22:56:29 also, i noticed that in all the existing unrand axes, none of their names include their actual base type: mithril axe, obsidian axe, wrath of trog, axe of woe. i would like to propose that this become a rule. 22:56:41 nicolae-: DESC_THE I think 22:57:04 Stable (0.16) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16.1-28-gcc2312f 22:58:10 makes sense 22:58:28 Are you leaving only freezing clouds? 22:58:34 yes 22:58:57 i suppose the actual cloud type could be bikeshedded once the basic mechanics are implemented but the original idea was for freezing clouds 22:58:59 hrm, and when that cloud places on the player 22:59:04 there's really no message? 22:59:12 well, not by default 22:59:23 I guess the idea is that 22:59:24 i think it says "you are surrounded by vapors" etc when it first does damage 22:59:38 the player notices by the ability message + status light 23:00:06 this is a bit more subtle, since it'd be only status light 23:00:21 this is a rare case anyhow, monsters using it on the player 23:00:27 what status light? 23:00:31 Cloud 23:00:32 oh, right, Cloud doesn't appear in tiles, does it 23:00:44 hrm, doesn't it? 23:00:54 it's true that I play console where it does appear 23:01:00 but I had assumed it shows there as well 23:01:11 don't see why it wouldn't 23:01:12 this appears to not be the case, as i just had an orc bonk me with the axe and i'm in a cloud but no status light 23:01:17 yeah it's weird 23:01:18 weird 23:01:25 hrm 23:01:48 also i am extremely pleased that the crawl code is robust enough that i don't have to worry about a dozen fiddly special cases myself, it works the same whether i'm hitting something or something hits me 23:02:25 -!- Dynast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:03:12 nicolae-: well, re the cloud thing, in tiles I guess the idea is that the clouds are just harder to miss to some extent 23:03:19 oh, i get that 23:03:35 so just seeing the player in clouds is probably sufficient really 23:03:36 but lots of things are harder to miss in tiles and they still get lights, like standing in water 23:03:49 yeah not really sure why that's excluded tbh 23:04:27 I think one problem to be aware of is message spam 23:04:36 is your plan then to only print this when the defender is the player? 23:04:50 that was my original idea, yeah 23:05:01 hrm, maybe it's fine to just not print a special message, hrm 23:05:28 well, arc blade prints a bunch of messages 23:05:33 but that effect is pretty weird 23:05:43 and it actually hits you when you strike with it 23:06:05 I'm kind of leaning towards no message 23:06:16 since "the foo is engulfed in freezing vapours" is enough 23:06:34 fair enough, saves me some coding 23:06:37 will this also have a brand? 23:06:47 because then there's already some message spam 23:06:51 yeah maybe try without initially 23:06:54 yes, freezing, but i used the new skip_ego to make it "freezing cloud" 23:07:07 sure,that'll help as well 23:07:22 or fCloud for short 23:07:30 FrZCld 23:07:43 BrrrrrCld 23:08:14 hm. so i guess at this point my main questions are basically just "how long should the clouds last" and "how often should it triggeR" 23:08:24 and then after that it's just flavoring the name, noises, and description 23:08:52 it's currently the Axe of the Northern Winds but i am open to similarly themed suggestions. "the +8 glacial axe" was another idea 23:09:52 can it be themed as like Father Frost's razor? 23:09:59 is it an exec axe 23:10:12 The tie-ins with Gillette could be very lucrative 23:10:17 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:10:39 kvaak: it is 23:10:50 though that can be changed 23:11:18 gammafunk: i thought of "Claws/Teeth/Bite of Winter" but it seems WoW got there first 23:11:25 execllent 23:11:48 we don'thave an unrand exec in not-meatsprint do we 23:11:52 we do not 23:11:56 which is one reason i picked it 23:12:02 that, and i figured i might as well go big 23:12:03 well people love exec axes 23:13:19 indeed 23:13:33 hopefully they love exec axes that encloud things freezingly 23:14:24 also it occurs to me that if we're doing australian-based localizing it really should at least be "the axe of the southern wind" 23:16:57 anyway. once i'm done tweaking the probabilities and durations i'll probably try to have a patch this weekend. just in time to cool players off for the summer... 23:17:19 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:18:12 nicolae-: I'm thinking 15% chance of trigger and only a few turns, but 23:18:31 what I'd do is simply compare fsim to a freeze exec with the same enchant 23:18:37 vs. vulnerable monster 23:18:53 no vulnerable, but something like a stone giant that doesn't resist 23:19:30 wizmode refuses to give a monster an unrand that's already generated but it doesn't give an error message or anything, the monster just gets a plain weapon of the same base type 23:19:48 kvaak: just generate it and use xo 23:19:57 to give it to the monster 23:20:08 from your inventory, that is 23:22:50 gammafunk: and then once i've done fsim, what then 23:23:02 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:23:21 well, you'll have the values for an ordinary freeze exec of same enchant, right? 23:23:29 and then values for your fcloud axe 23:23:35 ah, right 23:23:40 and you can see how much higher aveff dam is 23:23:48 as a guide for how strong your effect is 23:23:55 ...wait 23:23:59 would fsim factor in the cloud damage, thoguh 23:24:17 because it's not a direct effect of the weapon itself 23:24:18 let me see 23:25:23 int damage = (mon.max_hit_points - mon.hit_points); 23:25:32 oh! handy 23:25:32 hrm 23:25:35 problem though 23:25:39 this is still one attack 23:25:45 yeah 23:25:55 you're right this won't work I guess 23:25:59 well, atm i have it so the axe always triggers 23:26:09 so if it's one attack it should theoretically work 23:26:20 yes, I wonder though 23:26:23 even then 23:26:27 I don't think that cloud will damage it 23:26:39 maybe it will though 23:26:43 yeah see if it does 23:26:51 and you can just look at the dam from fcloud 23:26:54 and do a theoretical calc 23:26:57 and you'll be pretty cloud 23:27:04 er 23:27:06 pretty close 23:27:08 i am a pretty cloud 23:27:26 I am a pretty clod 23:27:33 ??freezing_cloud 23:27:33 freezing cloud[1/3]: Fills 8-10 squares (by flood fill from the target point -- this can be manipulated, as it won't fill a square that already has a cloud) with clouds doing cold damage. (Conjurations/Ice/Air 6). 23:27:37 ??freezing_cloud[2 23:27:38 freezing cloud[2/3]: kills things dead, but lasts for a long time after everything dies, so prepare to have a picnic waiting for it to clear. 23:27:40 ??freezing_cloud[3 23:27:40 freezing cloud[3/3]: Sorbius: I imagine the dungeon is just hot as hell and the monsters are like, hell yeah AC! and then realise way to late what's really going on 23:28:15 fortunately i realized early on to disable cloud spread 23:29:01 axe of the frost crab 23:29:28 the Frost Crab, eternal nemesis of the Octopode King 23:30:30 frost crab wouldn't probably fare too well against the octopode king 23:30:43 the latter has rc+ and the former has rPois- ! 23:30:49 -!- njorth has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:31:19 rip 23:31:39 ??octopode_king 23:31:40 I don't have a page labeled octopode_king in my learndb. 23:31:45 ??trident_of_the_octopode_king 23:31:46 I don't have a page labeled trident_of_the_octopode_king in my learndb. 23:32:29 ?? trident of the octopus king 23:32:30 trident of the octopus king[1/1]: +8 trident of the Octopus King {venom, rElec rPois MR+}. Gains +1 for every {ring of the octopus king} worn. 23:34:49 visually inspecting a stone giant with Wizard Vision shows that standing in a freezing cloud knocks off... like, sevenish points a turn on average 23:35:13 ?? cloud damage 23:35:13 cloud damage[1/1]: fire/forest fire/cold/holy flames/acid/negative energy: 10-32 dam if player, 6-21 dam if monster. ghostly flame: 4-18 dam. rain: 0-9 dam if 'fiery'. meph: 0-3 dam. poison: 0-10 dam. miasma: 0-12 dam. storm: 40-131 dam if player, 24-87 dam if monster. Average of 3 rolls (excp. poison/miasma/rain), Apply resistance, then apply AC, then multiply by auts/10 spent. 23:35:15 ?? stone giant 23:35:15 stone giant[1/3]: Like a speed 10 cyclops that hits much harder. 23:35:19 @?? stone giant 23:35:19 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 69-106 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | XP: 1424 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 23:35:49 ah, much better info 23:35:52 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:36:02 so it'd be around... 14ish on average for monsters 23:37:06 which the ac reduces by 6 on average so yeah 23:38:13 maybe 3-5 turns, then? 23:38:19 for the freezing cloud duration 23:42:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:47:35 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:53:04 wait a second 23:53:13 why do clouds do more damage to players than enemies 23:53:17 Spite. 23:56:14 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:59:32 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:53 -!- copt has quit []