00:06:52 -!- Okiemurse_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:27 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16.1-25-gbcee3f8 00:10:41 -!- nikitamog has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:14:05 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16.1-25-gbcee3f8 (34) 00:14:21 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:13 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1069-g92ad481 (34) 00:18:22 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1069-g92ad481 (34) 00:22:33 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:21 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:24:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:28:33 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:46 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:13 Hello everyone. I'm trying to compile from source now that all the content has moved to github but my dependency compiling isn't going so well. 00:31:49 So I try to make the tiles version from source and it says it's missing sdl2 library 00:32:13 I got to the main directory 00:32:17 update the submodule 00:32:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:32:31 and make in the source/contrib directory 00:32:46 and it says I'm missing something called EGL/egl.h 00:32:54 Where do I fic this? 00:32:59 *fix 00:33:22 I'll copy my bash text in pastebin 00:34:26 http://pastebin.com/WrEZAepd 00:41:44 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:43:29 -!- vale has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43:38 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:48 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:47:36 -!- squid_ has quit [Client Quit] 00:49:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:50:49 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:52:37 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1069-g92ad481 00:57:54 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:10 -!- Okiemurse_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:53 !tell MarvinPA Not sure if fixing inscriptions is something you really love to do now, but: quicksilver dragon armour of Baludoth {+Fly rF+ rC- MR+ Str+2, MR+}. 01:02:00 gammafunk: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 01:02:50 nikitamog: You need to install the sdl2 -dev packages 01:03:11 nikitamog: in INSTALL.txt it gives a list of dev packages needed for compiling in linux on debian-based systems 01:03:26 nikitamog: on rpm-based systems the package names will be similar 01:04:09 nikitamog: also you're not using contribs (since you're on linux), you're using your system libraries, so don't worry about the contribs directory 01:06:05 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:46 -!- timbabwe_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:39 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:22:51 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:22:57 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:08 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:32:54 -!- Okiemurse_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:15 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:37:52 -!- mnoleg69reagan42 has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 01:39:49 "jellies will no longer eat items you've seen" <-- outraged 01:40:43 just to make fast-traveling back to items on previous floors less annoying, I presume? 01:42:42 so the flight spell is gone, is there still that dumb amulet that turns lev into flying? 01:42:53 or was that removed in like 0.7 and I'm just a codger 01:43:06 "Cigotuvi’s Embrace is now somewhat stronger in most circumstances, but will probably no longer provide hundreds of points of AC/SH in ziggurats." <-- it's like you hate fun 01:43:43 if you want to balance it, just make the player utterly paralyzed under the hundreds of tons of putrid flesh 01:45:56 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:24 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:53:50 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:10:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:15:36 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:18:33 -!- jefkin has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:18:45 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:20:55 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:23:05 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 02:33:52 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:40:25 -!- eb has quit [] 02:43:00 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:44:30 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:50:43 -!- Okiemurse__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:51:55 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:52:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:20 -!- Syndicus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:15:25 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:15:51 "jellis will no longer eat items you've seen" <-- overjoyed 03:16:01 jellies, even 03:16:03 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:19:37 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:21:19 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:27:28 minmay: what would your emotion be if they could eat items at all... 03:28:30 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:32:26 gammafunk: you're killing jiyva. please, let the players do that 03:34:46 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:35:43 !lg wensley god=jiyva 03:35:43 No games for wensley (god=jiyva). 03:36:11 !lg wensley 03:36:12 333. Wensley the Brawler (L11 TrAr of Trog), slain by a yak on Lair:3 on 2013-05-26 23:11:08, with 13857 points after 11669 turns and 0:36:39. 03:44:23 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:47:53 I've tried to play jiyva characters, I never find the altar in temple 03:48:08 hey it's been less than two years since I last played crawl! 04:04:12 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:09:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:09:34 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:12:04 -!- thylo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:15:19 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:17:33 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:20:49 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:29:58 -!- aarujn has quit [Quit: aarujn] 04:31:01 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:41:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:34 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:48 -!- 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What the heck! severed status 1 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9727 by thromnambular 11:04:03 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:05:05 -!- mefis231_ has quit [Client Quit] 11:05:27 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:16 -!- mefis231 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:17:05 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:20:33 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:24:33 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:24:41 -!- vale has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:45 %git :/sustain abilities 11:33:46 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1166-gf9fb1b7: Mark sustain abilities as useless for dg 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9fb1b7cda9d 11:34:08 !tell MarvinPA sustain abilities 11:34:08 minmay: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 11:35:19 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:40:19 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:40:42 -!- tsouns has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:41:28 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:42:01 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:46:14 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:05 <|amethyst> I think "attributes" would be better there than ' 11:49:10 <|amethyst> s/'/"stats"/ 11:49:28 <|amethyst> since that's what we usually call them in-game and in the documentation 11:50:28 <|amethyst> well, I guess if you count options_guide we do often call them "stats" 11:51:04 <|amethyst> but it seems a little too modern a word to use in-game 11:51:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:52:10 -!- mefis231_ has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - ????????????? ??????. ?????.] 11:52:13 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:53:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:54:12 -!- Torax_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:54:25 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:58:37 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:02:35 !tell gammafunk i can't repro that, are you sure you don't have mauris's autoinscriptions that add those things to dragon armours (so that it's displayed for plain armours too)? 12:02:35 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:02:54 !tell gammafunk or whoever came up with that idea, but i think it was mauris 12:02:54 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:05:26 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:27 -!- Oddysee has quit [Client Quit] 12:10:35 MarvinPA: all the tileschat people have that now basically, via HDA.rc i think 12:10:40 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:42 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:11:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1069-g92ad481 (34) 12:11:18 !tell Wensley_ lev was removed in 0.11! (also grats on rust reaching 1.0) 12:11:19 wheals: OK, I'll let wensley_ know. 12:11:32 hda needs to set up his own bug tracker then, so we don't get pestered with custom rc bugs! 12:11:52 hilariousbugartist 12:12:43 -!- dobdob is now known as doubtofbuddha 12:13:27 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:01 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:14:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:04 -!- Badjas has quit [] 12:20:08 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:26:27 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:32 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:54 hm 12:28:08 i am very confused as to why ice form gives immunity to freezing clouds 12:28:30 <|amethyst> in case you get summoned by an ice statue 12:32:40 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:33:34 heh, i mean code-wise though 12:34:18 i don't see anything in cloud.cc 12:34:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:38:42 that's because it's not immune :P 12:39:02 although i do think it used to be, dunno when it changed 12:39:08 i should have known better than to trust minmay 12:39:12 it used to be 12:39:20 this was a fairly recent change 12:39:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:37 be quiet, i need to treat all mantis comments by you as your permanent opinions forever 12:39:59 |amethyst: Would you know if underhound.eu is the official replacement for clan? 12:40:14 i.e. Can I point Sequell at it 12:40:22 Also crawl.buzz... 12:40:34 actually i have no idea how recent it was, the last time i cast ice form was probably like a year ago 12:40:50 was that when you played last 12:41:03 <|amethyst> greensnark: yes, underhound.eu is the replacement for clan, though I haven't checked whether the milestone/logfiles started over 12:41:17 <|amethyst> I forget the nick of the person behind crawl.buzz 12:41:40 |amethyst: is my server still being scanned for morgues on port 80? 12:41:43 They seem to have old data and DNS points at underhound.eu 12:41:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:41:52 I shall update clan 12:41:59 greensnark: Thanks 12:42:01 port 81. 12:42:03 :) 12:42:07 also 12:42:09 while at it 12:42:14 rename to underhound.eu 12:42:21 <|amethyst> TZer0: I was waiting to hear, do the logfiles/milestones start over, or continue the stuff from clan 12:42:35 Everything was copied over. 12:42:37 <|amethyst> ok 12:42:42 Because the entire VM was moved. 12:42:44 TZer0: I'll add "cue" as an alias :P 12:43:02 maybe cuhe? 12:43:04 hmm 12:43:04 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:43:06 or uhe 12:43:20 hue 12:43:22 Neither of those are words!! 12:43:25 Sure, whichever you prefer :) 12:43:33 because there's no more crawl in front of the domain 12:43:39 just underhound.eu:8080 12:43:41 that's it. 12:43:49 hmm. 12:44:02 Actually, fine 12:44:04 do cue 12:44:09 since it is a word :P 12:44:17 :) 12:44:23 Thanks :) 12:44:33 ckr got an honorary crawl i think too 12:44:45 and cwz 12:45:08 <|amethyst> TZer0: all that is on :81 now, right? 12:45:19 <|amethyst> TZer0: crawl/meta/ and crawl/morgues/ 12:45:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:15 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:46:25 Yeah 12:46:38 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:13 <|amethyst> CUE 12:47:44 <|amethyst> I'm keeping it as clan in scoring since it doesn't matter there 12:47:52 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47:54 <|amethyst> just so I don't have to rename data files 12:48:15 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:21 <|amethyst> about to kill scoring and restart with the new underhound.eu data URLs 12:48:28 <|amethyst> as soon as it finishes the batch it's on 12:48:48 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:59 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 12:49:02 * greensnark ponders officially renaming to cue 12:49:05 !lg * clan x=src 12:49:05 174523. [src=clan] patman the Poker (L2 DsGl), quit the game on D:1 on 2015-04-29 19:13:13, with 12 points after 298 turns and 0:00:31. 12:49:09 Uh 12:49:09 Yeah 12:50:05 !lg * clan 12:50:06 175665. Bramblefist the Slasher (L4 HuBe of Okawaru), quit the game on D:3 on 2015-05-17 17:32:37, with 91 points after 2174 turns and 0:10:32. 12:50:09 Ok good 12:50:12 !lg * cue 12:50:13 175665. Bramblefist the Slasher (L4 HuBe of Okawaru), quit the game on D:3 on 2015-05-17 17:32:37, with 91 points after 2174 turns and 0:10:32. 12:50:24 Let me do the rename 12:50:26 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:51:53 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:07 !lg * cue x=src 12:52:07 175665. [src=cue] Bramblefist the Slasher (L4 HuBe of Okawaru), quit the game on D:3 on 2015-05-17 17:32:37, with 91 points after 2174 turns and 0:10:32. 12:52:19 !lg * cue !boring -tv 12:52:21 156919. Bramblefist, XL5 TrMo, T:2530 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 12:52:33 <|amethyst> !lg * clan 12:52:33 175665. Bramblefist the Slasher (L4 HuBe of Okawaru), quit the game on D:3 on 2015-05-17 17:32:37, with 91 points after 2174 turns and 0:10:32. 12:53:14 !kw clan 12:53:15 Built-in: clan => src=cue 13:02:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:04:07 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:05:06 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:09:54 <|amethyst> scoring is down for the moment 13:12:14 sweet. 13:12:32 greensnark: is termcast working? 13:12:38 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:18 <|amethyst> probably 80 minutes for this rollback to finish up 13:14:57 TZer0: Yes. Are you having trouble with it? 13:20:24 greensnark: I was asking, I didn't test. 13:21:22 ^version 13:21:22 trunk: 0.17-a0-1020-ge683cc4; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 13:21:25 %version 13:21:25 trunk: 0.17-a0-1069-g92ad481; 0.16: 0.16.1-25-gbcee3f8; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 13:21:57 hm. looks like cbro didn't update last night. 13:22:07 %git e683cc4 13:22:08 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1020-ge683cc4: Remove the Flight spell. 10(11 days ago, 12 files, 21+ 49-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e683cc4b791a 13:22:20 uh 13:22:53 it was authored then, but not in the main repo until friday 13:23:34 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:46 I have 3 entries: Nothing new to install at the moment: you asked for 0.17-a0-1020-ge683cc4 and it's already installed, aborting. 13:24:51 rip flight spell 13:25:11 <|amethyst> johnstein: oh 13:25:25 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:44 are you sure you aren't on gitorious still? 13:25:52 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:18 <|amethyst> yes 13:26:30 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:26:30 <|amethyst> -1020 is the last on gitorious 13:26:39 gitorious https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git (fetch) 13:26:39 gitorious https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git (push) 13:26:40 origin https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git (fetch) 13:26:42 origin https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git (push) 13:27:03 maybe I'm dumb and it's still using gitorious, but I thought it's been using origin 13:27:40 johnstein: Your upstream's probably still gitorious 13:27:46 <|amethyst> johnstein: check the remote on all the branches in your .git/config 13:28:14 <|amethyst> master and stone_soup-*, as well as any experimental branches 13:28:32 <|amethyst> crawl-build/crawl-git-repository/.git/config that is 13:29:22 yep, still pointing to gitorious. didn't know I had to change it there. thought that having 'origin' pointing to gh instead would supersede everything else. bummer 13:29:33 the only one not pointing is squarelos-0.17 13:29:56 do I just s/gitorious/origin/g in .git/config? 13:30:08 or is there a better way to do it? 13:30:21 <|amethyst> I would s/= gitorious/= origin/ 13:30:31 <|amethyst> so you don't change the gitorious upstream :) 13:30:37 heh. 13:31:13 but basically, whenever you switch a remote, it's not enough to just set-url? you have to actually manually edit the config? that's the "best practice"? 13:32:57 it's what git requires 13:33:13 and git is subtle and quick to anger 13:33:15 <|amethyst> if you change the URL of a remote and keep the name that should be fine 13:33:30 <|amethyst> but I'm not certain 13:33:41 <|amethyst> there are maybe better ways to do this with 'git config' 13:33:49 <|amethyst> which I don't use as much as I should 13:33:50 git branch --set-upstream-to 13:34:08 git remote show origin also tells you if you're actually tracking origin's branches 13:34:21 (don't know what versions these were added to) 13:35:24 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:52 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:42:08 hm. I should probably point the submodules to gh too 13:42:19 [submodule "crawl-ref/source/contrib/fonts"] 13:42:21 url = git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-fonts.git 13:43:45 ??rebuild 13:43:45 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 13:49:09 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:49:14 -!- speranza_ is now known as speranza 13:50:11 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:51:42 -!- Egglet has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:53:56 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 13:53:57 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 13:55:20 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:55:34 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1069-g92ad481 (34) 13:56:01 %version 13:56:02 trunk: 0.17-a0-1069-g92ad481; 0.16: 0.16.1-25-gbcee3f8; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 13:56:12 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 13:59:33 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:04:30 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:41 -!- casualcop has quit [] 14:12:33 -!- Watball has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:12:43 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:14:29 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:25 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:37 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:17:42 2919 | D:4 | Found Afoif's Assorted Antiques. ||| 2934 | D:4 | Bought a scroll labeled AWIFFA WASU for 33 gold pieces 14:17:50 sadly that was not actually an alphashop 14:19:33 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20:31 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:26:33 wheals: all of tiles chat certainly does not have HDA.rc! 14:26:50 %git 93b781fc 14:26:50 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3014-g93b781f: Fix monster cloud resistance checks (ebering) 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 7+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/93b781fc67d7 14:26:59 there's the culprit 14:27:09 but yeah probably that inscription was due to something like that 14:27:45 was the fcloud immunity ever documented anywhere? 14:27:52 cause if not i think this was an overall positive change :P 14:28:01 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:28:06 probably not outside the learndb! 14:28:12 or maybe not even there 14:29:30 @??hell_sentinel 14:29:30 Hell Sentinel (071) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 123-162 | AC/EV: 25/3 08(spiny 5d4) | Dam: 40, 25 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2907 | Sp: hellfire (3d20) [06!sil], iron shot (3d33) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 14:30:53 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:32:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:57 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:41:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1070-g1cac84f: Reword a Mummy self-restoration message (|amethyst) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1cac84f4cd61 14:41:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1071-gca789ff: De-rune some doors 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ca789ff94828 14:41:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1072-g6204fc6: Rename a jelly vault and remove unnecessary uniq tag 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6204fc69a1bb 14:41:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1073-gf90e4d4: Remove a jelly vault 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 49-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f90e4d4148d8 14:45:02 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:47:04 -!- cribozai has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:45 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00:21 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:02:49 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:03:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 15:05:53 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:06:01 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:07:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:10:49 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:47 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:16 Razawaza (L23 FeIE) ASSERT(slot) in 'acquire.cc' at line 102 failed. (Trove) 15:21:55 is it a felid in a form 15:22:18 or maybe just an acquire armour on felid 15:22:40 i think there is a trove that can sometimes acquire armour and isn't restricted for felids maybe? 15:22:52 i remember that coming up recently-ish and guess it wasn't fixed since then 15:23:09 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:18 !lm * noun=ASSERT\(slot\) s=place 15:23:18 No milestones for * (noun=ASSERT(slot)). 15:23:19 !vault trove_simple 15:23:19 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/trove.des#l473 15:23:24 !lm * noun~~ASSERT\(slot\) s=place 15:23:24 No milestones for * (noun~~ASSERT(slot)). 15:23:41 !lm * noun~~ASSERT(slot) s=place 15:23:42 No milestones for * (noun~~ASSERT(slot)). 15:23:58 !lm * crash x=noun 15:23:58 11674. [2015-05-17 20:21:06] [noun=ASSERT(slot) in 'acquire.cc' at line 102 failed.] Razawaza the Ruinous (L23 FeIE of Sif Muna) ASSERT(slot) in 'acquire.cc' at line 102 failed on turn 80747. (Trove) 15:24:20 !lm * crash noun~~ASSERT(slot) s=place 15:24:21 No milestones for * (crash noun~~ASSERT(slot)). 15:24:34 !vault trove_nasty 15:24:34 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/trove.des#l784 15:24:36 eh, anyway 15:24:38 looks like those two could do it 15:24:49 the log probably has the vault being built 15:24:52 and treasure_islane 15:24:53 d 15:24:54 -e 15:25:27 why is treasure island restricted for mu and vp 15:25:48 is it the !cmut 15:25:50 this comment that looks like it's supposed to explain it doesn't make any sense 15:26:10 why not ghouls too then! 15:26:59 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:27:17 -!- nikitamog has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:27:39 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:39 hmm trove_dig also! do all of these need really ugly lua to prevent them trying to acquire armour/weapons for felids or something 15:27:45 because that sounds awful :( 15:27:57 i guess since they don't have any real effects from shining eyes 15:28:01 they can just eat some chunks 15:28:38 anyway it's definitely very due 15:29:04 i think no_species tags were added a lot later than the vaults themselves 15:29:57 %git c8df72d4 15:29:58 07tenofswords02 * 0.14-a0-3167-gc8df72d: More scattered vault edits 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 5 files, 39+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c8df72d439d8 15:31:21 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:31:50 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:07 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1074-g5f707f4: Allow Mu and Vp to get trove_treasure_island 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5f707f45c334 15:32:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:29 an alternative would be to just not make an item for felids in those cases 15:32:38 i assume that was the behavior before the refactoring 15:33:26 ah yeah maybe, i forgot acquire code was refactored 15:34:42 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:37:02 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:40:00 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:52:30 -!- mefis231 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55:05 -!- garciarg has quit [Client Quit] 15:57:03 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 16:01:50 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:02:27 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:36 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 16:06:25 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:10:16 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:14:41 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:38 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:20:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:54 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:23:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 16:25:14 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:25:41 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:26 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:26:31 hmm why does the dragonskin cloak give rCorr 16:26:38 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:05 -!- mnoleg69reagan42 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:28:15 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:28:52 yellow dracs! 16:29:05 ok: why does the dragonskin cloak give rN 16:29:10 :P 16:30:30 shadow dracs!!!! 16:30:40 soon, bcadren's dream will be a reality...... 16:31:15 Unstable branch on crawl.buzz updated to: 0.17-a0-1074-g5f707f4 (34) 16:33:31 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:42:18 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:08 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.1/20150513174244]] 16:47:53 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:48:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1075-gbbd358a: Give monsters with steam resistance immunity to steam clouds 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbd358a83401 16:48:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1076-gf7e7309: Fix a steam resistance check 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f7e7309317c4 16:48:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1077-g2cf64ac: Don't give rCorr from the dragonskin cloak 10(11 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2cf64ac292d5 16:49:58 mm i guess the dragonskin cloak doesn't give rSteam either 16:50:12 except it sort of does via rF but that's half as effective because rSteam is: really weird 16:56:26 ??rsteam 16:56:27 rsteam ~ steam[1/1]: Does 3-16 damage and (more importantly) obscures LOS. Used by smoke demons, steam dragons and pale draconians, and caused by fire attacks passing over water. Damage is completely negated by rF+, steam dragon armours, or being a pale draconian. 17:01:30 does anyone else feel that thinning out the ranks of actual dragons from pop_zot would be a good idea? 17:01:52 seems to me that at a minimum ice and fire dragons aren't really doing anything that draconians aren't 17:02:29 well they breathe harder 17:02:35 and gold, storm, and shadow dragons aren't really doing anything good there either 17:02:49 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:12 sure, but packs of draconians breathing less hard seems better than recycling those monsters from V and U (and portals/Lair) 17:05:37 they all seem pretty much fine to me, storm/gold/shadow dragons aren't common elsewhere 17:05:54 storm in particular are often very noticeable in zot 17:07:29 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:07:41 to me if feels like we could do a mix of elec golems and up the frequency of black draconians (by upping the frequency of draconians in general) and achieve the same thing 17:08:07 my argument would be easier to accept if we had other zot enemies to replace them I guess 17:08:29 *zot-specific enemies that perhaps aren't hall_of_zot tier difficulty 17:08:54 well black draconians are pretty unlike storm dragons 17:10:09 electric golems less so i guess, although the blinking still makes a fair bit of difference 17:10:29 their breath damage is the same, though they do use it less and are a bit slower 17:11:27 -!- panicbit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:11:30 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:14:04 -!- neotelesocio has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:14:38 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:14:47 -!- quik has quit [Excess Flood] 17:16:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1078-g243345b: Simplify steam cloud damage 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/243345b52a65 17:17:52 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:19:38 wow, a zot vault is placing apoc crabs 17:20:03 of course, a hangedman vault 17:21:10 I started to de-elfify profane halls, but maybe I should just wait until I get ideas for what to make for elf 17:22:42 -!- Vall has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [SeaMonkey 2.28/20150413164133]] 17:26:42 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:25 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:30:33 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:32:07 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:35:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:37:04 -!- quik has quit [Quit: Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?] 17:57:56 here is a funny bug. if you use temporal distortion while you have a spectral weapon up, your weapon wanders away to the northwest, because the implementation of TD is to temporarily place you at (0,0) 18:00:52 lol 18:06:28 -!- sk3 is now known as ktgrey 18:11:00 -!- syndicus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:29 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:12:56 -!- Syndicus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:12:58 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:15:38 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:22:50 elf: make a elf that uses phase shift and force arrow 18:23:38 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:29:23 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:30:45 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:04 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:31:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:33:18 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:39:09 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:16 hello! i have a question. when i go into git and use "git pull" it tells me that i'm already up to date even though i know this is not the case, how can i force it to get what's there 18:41:30 nicolae-: are you pulling form github or gitorious? 18:41:41 'torius 18:43:02 gitorious went into partial shutdown two days ago, can't be updated. switch to github 18:43:19 (not accepting updates) 18:43:27 two days ago is about the right time, yes 18:43:31 when i stopped getting updates 18:43:37 what's the place to clone from then 18:43:50 git://github.net/crawl/crawl/git 18:44:27 nicolae-: git remote set-upstream origin git://github.com/crawl/crawl 18:44:42 geekosaur: github.net? do they own that? 18:44:54 sigh, typing too fast 18:44:57 github.com 18:45:19 argh 18:45:30 i think msysgit doesn't do set-upstream 18:45:37 er, i might have gotten the argument order to git remote wrong 18:45:46 maybe it is git remote origin set-upstream? i don't think so though 18:46:09 oh 18:46:10 it's set-url 18:46:46 set-upstream is a different thing, when you're pushing branches. nicolae-, try set-url instead 18:47:24 seems to ahve worked 18:47:54 booya 18:47:55 thank you 18:48:04 enjoy 18:48:21 *rubs hands together* 18:50:20 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:51:37 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:56:23 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:01:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:01:05 -!- eb has quit [] 19:03:57 .phyte 19:03:59 .phyte -2 19:04:07 6. Apollyon the Severer (L16 DsBe of Trog), mangled by a shambling mangrove on Swamp:3 (nicolae_swamp_phyte_club) on 2015-05-16 04:42:45, with 137594 points after 30014 turns and 2:45:45. 19:04:16 5/6. Farquar the Fighter (L16 DsAs of Dithmenos), slain by a thorn hunter on Swamp:2 (nicolae_swamp_phyte_club) on 2015-04-22 19:55:28, with 121370 points after 43896 turns and 5:48:31. 19:04:17 Why do you hate the demonspawn, what did they do to you 19:04:27 don't blame me. blame the plants. 19:08:33 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:33 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:12:11 also i had an idea for an unrand, which i thought i could make, and wanted to run it by you or somebody: an axe that leaves clouds behind as you cleave 19:13:05 behind you? 19:13:29 as in, on the monsters that are cleaved? 19:13:29 well, behind your weapon. flavorwise. you leave clouds in a circle around you. 19:13:49 sure, you just need to think about exactly where you mean them to be left 19:13:51 i couldn't decide between "on monsters" or "chance of it triggering in all squares individually" 19:13:58 since this makes a huge difference in terms of the utility 19:14:08 mmm. indeed. 19:14:09 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 19:14:33 nicolae-: I had cbro screwed up too. I had origin pointing to github. but the branches were all still pointing to gitorious 19:14:36 yeah, random chance for all cleaved squares 19:14:46 seems a bit easier to balance, although again it depends 19:14:56 i also figured it'd help to be noisy 19:14:57 what cloud types would it leave 19:15:11 yeah, is this something like Wrath of Q? 19:15:17 the one i have in my head is freezing, like 1 or 2 turns at most 19:15:22 so noisy, random cloud types? 19:15:35 i thought of it before Qazlal existed but there would be obvious synergy 19:16:03 another thing to consider 19:16:12 if you want to look at what weapon types need urands 19:16:18 is that you don't have to have it be an axe 19:16:28 it could leave clouds around the player regardless 19:16:54 not that there's a problem with axes, and I don't know what the dist. of unrands looks like by weapon types 19:17:00 axes have the least 19:17:10 there's four, one of which is the axe of woe 19:17:16 yeah, arga, wrathof trog, obsidian, ... 19:17:17 is that it 19:17:22 yep 19:17:58 which is one reason i started thinking of unrand axes 19:18:05 elemental staff, mojin-bo, , staves also don't have many 19:18:15 hrm anyhow, yeah there aren't too many 19:18:35 staves have 7, though i think something got changed to or from a staff 19:18:35 recently 19:18:41 oh, olgreb, wucad 19:18:56 dispater, asmodeus, lajatang of order 19:19:08 and now scetpre of torment 19:19:48 yeah, those unique-only ones don't quite count, but even then there are more than I realized 19:20:06 yeah 19:20:26 also now that cleaving has been simplified to "all empty squares around you" it will be much easier to code this 19:20:40 was that change reverted? 19:21:20 i don't think it was 19:22:03 looks like not, yeah 19:22:33 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:23:02 also: should the cloud-making be put in a "melee_effects" unrand function or somewhere else 19:24:00 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:05 |amethyst: C++ question, do you think rotate_adjacent should use const coord_def &vector and declare a coord_def in scope to modify/return? 19:26:30 it's not that the copy is expensive, but it seems weird to me given all the other functions taking coord_def that do similar things yet have arguments of const coord_def &var 19:26:38 even functions defined in the same file 19:27:33 it would essentially add a line of code, since there's no way to make the resulting coord_def without a local variable, but... 19:28:28 nicolae-: melee effects like firestarter probably, yeah 19:28:50 hrm 19:28:59 well, actually this does depend on how you want to leave the clouds 19:29:37 since firestarter acts on a successful hit (and it additionally checks that there's damage, but you don't have to do that) 19:30:12 so melee_effects would be more if i wanted to leave clouds on hit monsters, whereas i would need something else if i just wanted it as a side effect unrelated to hitting anything specific 19:30:15 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:19 -!- copt has quit [] 19:30:23 yeah 19:30:27 hrm! 19:30:30 but since as you say cleaving is simple 19:30:38 this is just a post-attack action 19:30:48 where do those go 19:30:50 leave the clouds after the attack 19:30:56 yeah 19:31:04 ah 19:31:13 see _TORMENT_world_reacts 19:31:20 I think that'd be it pretty much exactly 19:31:32 hrm 19:31:33 are you sure? world_reacts is for shit that happens when you're holding or wearing a thing 19:31:33 well 19:31:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:31:44 no 19:32:00 scepter of torment triggers upon act 19:32:07 but let me see how this is used 19:32:21 it looks like the torment upon acting is in melee_effects too 19:32:25 oh maybe that one does actually 19:32:33 i think SofT just occasionally activates as you walk arond with it 19:32:39 world reacts is close to what you want 19:32:47 the problem is it's not actor-centric it seems 19:32:55 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:33:06 yeah, if i put it in world_reacts i think i'd just get clouds popping up as i walk or stand around 19:33:25 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0/20150508094354]] 19:33:52 is melee_effects called when you use the weapon or only when you hit something 19:33:52 there's not really a mechanism for post-melee only 19:34:16 pretty sure it would only be upon hit but let me double check 19:34:26 at least, not one that's as easy as the melee_effects stuff 19:34:40 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:36:29 yeah I just checked, it's only upon a successful hit 19:37:07 nuts. well, i suppose i could change it to "leave clouds on monsters on hitting them" but on the other hand there's no sense in weaseling out of the implementation i want just to get out of some harder coding 19:37:39 so this would probably need a special case in the melee attack code itself 19:38:27 i can't remember, do noisy weapons trigger on use or also on a hit? 19:38:44 that might be a place to start looking 19:39:13 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:28 upon use 19:39:54 but again, before you start implementing, think well about what you actually want in terms of gameplay and balance 19:40:16 i want to break the game, gammafunk 19:40:25 but there's a ds mut that works base on hit only 19:40:38 and does something similar 19:40:48 i thought that was when you got hit, not when you hit a monster 19:41:13 -!- read has quit [Quit: bye.] 19:41:28 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:43:01 if you mean passive freeze, I'm not talking about that 19:43:06 no, i mean foul stench 19:43:16 i thought the miasma was when they hit you and not the other way round 19:44:09 unless you mean a third mutation altogether 19:44:20 black mark 19:46:04 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:46:41 ah 19:47:02 that's not clouds, which threw me off 19:48:05 i think "clouds on monsters" would be somewhat more powerful since the clouds are guaranteed to hit something that needs to die, and might be more convenient with repeated tabbing since you can't tab into a square with a monster anyway 19:48:21 it'd also let you know where the unseen horror was 19:49:37 -!- vale has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50:39 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:52:15 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:52:19 you don't really care about one specific monster when designing an unrand; most urands are fairly powerful end-game weapons 19:52:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:53:02 yeah, one thing with leaving clouds around the player, is that these squares become no-move spots 19:53:14 ... unless you're immune to them 19:53:29 right, a Q thing that's really powerful and probably shouldn't be duplicated in an unrand 19:53:43 well, the unseen horror comment was just an aside 19:53:50 oh, i wouldn't 19:53:52 dropping on a monster is a bit better there, at least, but you can leave clouds pretty infrequently 19:53:52 well, I was thinking of rN+++ and draining clouds or rPois+ and poison clouds/meph clouds 19:54:00 hm. 19:54:06 not a qaz-type special 19:54:29 yeah, generally try to go with the effect that's reasonably powerful and least-annoying for the player 19:54:38 early Q didn't have the right cloud immunity and was much more annoying 19:54:50 and there are still some weird special cases that pop up there 19:54:55 yeah, fair enough 19:55:32 i do wonder how this will play with ring of flames but maybe i'm thinking too hard 19:56:24 i also had a few other unrand ideas but working on this one will hold me for now i think 19:56:31 yeah, it really depends on what clouds you leave and how, but I don't think that will be too bad 19:57:01 my initial idea was short-lived clouds of freezing since i thought there were already a bunch of fire-themed unrands 19:57:32 miasma is an option but i know you all want to cut back on miasma sources 19:59:20 anyway. i gotta go do some other things but i'll return at some point 19:59:21 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:02:18 !tell wheals thanks! 20:02:19 Wensley_: OK, I'll let wheals know. 20:02:46 also, with lev and flight gone, is it just impossible to get across water and lava now? because that might be awesome 20:02:58 I presume blink can't take you across deadly things 20:04:43 flight the spell was removed 20:05:02 not flight the potion and rings of flight and the artp and mutations 20:05:11 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:08 why was flight the spell removed, anyway? 20:07:27 %git :/flight 20:07:30 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-750-gea7ae5b: Remove potions of restore abilities 10(4 weeks ago, 21 files, 56+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea7ae5b31619 20:07:35 %git :/Flight 20:07:36 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1020-ge683cc4: Remove the Flight spell. 10(11 days ago, 12 files, 21+ 49-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e683cc4b791a 20:07:40 see commit message 20:07:53 just realize it's wheals giving gameplay discussion 20:22:13 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:29:22 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:33 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:34:37 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:36:47 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:39:20 -!- nikitamog has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:41:48 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:43:48 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:53:58 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:54:38 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:55:48 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:59:42 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:35 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:06:39 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:19 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:09:42 gammafunk: once cbzz goes live (if?) remember to update view-source:https://crawl.develz.org/servers.json 21:10:08 ok, but I'm not sure what our policy is on adding new servers at this point 21:10:25 hrm 21:10:33 ??buzzell 21:10:33 Buzzell[1/1]: Bot for CBZZ - http://crawl.buzz - NJ, USA 21:10:46 we kind of need a cdo website doc tbh 21:10:51 !learn add CBZZ http://crawl.buzz - NJ, USA. Run by syndicus. 21:10:52 CBZZ[1/1]: http://crawl.buzz - NJ, USA. Run by syndicus. 21:11:20 there is a readme in the repo, but it's not completely correct since the repo is still set up to use s3 + cloudfront 21:11:32 Napkin: can I have 15mins of your life sometime to talk about website architecture? 21:20:38 |amethyst: another thing to count in morgues: god gifts 21:27:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:29:03 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:17 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:32:03 -!- Chance672 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:37:35 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:42:18 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:43 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:17 -!- read has quit [Client Quit] 21:50:28 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:54:19 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:43 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:58:37 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:06 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:38 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:27:54 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:57 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:45:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:21 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:55:53 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:58:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:59:13 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1078-g243345b (34) 23:04:19 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:04:43 ??cbzz 23:04:43 CBZZ[1/1]: http://crawl.buzz - NJ, USA. Run by syndicus. 23:05:00 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:13:11 -!- neotelesocio has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:13:18 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:15:39 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:17:39 do we know when webtiles-changes will be merged? 23:18:00 and when we will start working on user DB unification? or is it still kinda up in the air? 23:19:55 i would also like to know 23:21:04 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:22:30 my plan for webtiles changes is to see what mumra will do with the client rework, since he might use angular.js and we should unify our libraries 23:22:49 no one is actively working on user DB unification to my knowledge, but we still really want it 23:22:56 so you don't expect to merge until after the client rework? 23:23:13 well yes since it'll require some rewriting if he uses angular 23:24:02 the python server changes might be mostly fine as-is but it's better to have something relatively complete when we try to go through the pain of upgrading servers 23:24:10 and there's still the issue of how we'll upgrade 23:24:33 as in, will some kind of docker solution be ready (doy has said he'll work on this, and I'm interested in helping if I can) 23:24:49 or will we just try to improve dgl scripts 23:25:01 or a combination of this 23:25:03 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:25:20 from what I understand, it may be possible to update the docker config with e.g. new branches and have servers pull the new docker stuff 23:25:31 instead of going through dgl scripts, but I'm not sure 23:26:08 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:13 as in, someone wants to make a branch, they update the docker config and all servers subscribed to it get this new config 23:26:36 could simplify server management a lot, but I'm not sure how this will play with local changes and such 23:26:43 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:30 lld has a bunch of one-off stuff in their webtiles config for menu navigation, so it'd kind of have to be able to integrate some local changes 23:28:04 s/webtiles config/webtiles templates/ 23:28:27 I don't have any local changes really 23:28:35 because I'm too dumb 23:28:38 lld has custom score navigation as well, which changes the server more, but I'd like to have that in the client (and there's an implementation in webtiles-changes) 23:29:06 yeah, we can try to make it so that only changes to the templates are integrated, but to be honest it depends on how flexible docker is 23:29:53 per-branch docker containers would be... interesting 23:29:54 |amethyst might have a different take on some of this, but I know he's not super keen on doing a lot of extra admin stuff. I at least want to give mumra some time to look at our js 23:30:04 it's definitely possible, but quite novel 23:30:17 chequers: well, maybe it could be just one 23:30:31 I mean, if you want to run other branches, maybe do something like dbro? 23:30:43 and just have a fully customized server not on docker or something 23:30:52 I keep wanting to prototype some docker stuff. Picking up where TZer0 left off 23:31:11 yeah doy was going to start from TZer0's as well, not sure when he'll get to this 23:31:14 what I mean is, most of docker community is focused on building readonly golden images which never store state 23:31:23 state? 23:31:25 it's hard to fit crawl into that architecture. not impossible 23:31:34 save files, rcs, morgues, etc 23:31:41 you'd use volumes for that 23:32:06 I thought data-only containers would work well. TZer0 gave me some reasons why it wouldn't 23:32:18 but that stuff wouldn't be in the actual crawl docker image 23:32:41 from what I know of docker. I've only used it to manage some minecraft feed-the-beast servers I'm running 23:32:47 works really well for that 23:33:01 but I'm not rolling new versions constantly 23:33:13 yes, you want to spin containers up that talk to a central 'storage' container. The IPC for transferring that mount data (and tunnelling unix socket over tcp) is the part I consider "novel" 23:33:35 I've seen a few real live docker deployments and all of them use something simpler than that 23:34:07 tbh I was more thinking of each server maintaining its own saves, rcs, morgues 23:34:12 not trying to centralize that 23:34:28 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:41 so one container per branch? that could work, I guess the idea is to automate building of the containers then? 23:34:46 yeah 23:35:06 it does mean containers exist forever -- even after you stop allowing 0.15 play, the 0.15 container has 0.15 morgues 23:35:12 so people don't have to go through all the idiosyncratic steps to set up a server and to add a branch 23:35:32 gammafunk: I agree. we would want to tackle passing along saves/rcs/morgues to/from a centralized servers later 23:37:28 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:05 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:24 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:46:51 !vault ice2_lemuel 23:46:52 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des#l2693 23:47:04 .elrank 23:47:15 would anyone object if i adjusted this to like Lair:4- or something? i had a game recently that put this on lair:1, and the ice dragon seemed pretty unkind 23:47:24 2077 games for * (br=lair lvl>2 lvl<8 kmap!~entry kmap!~uniq kmap!~special_ kmap!~altar kmap!=): 123x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake, 100x bobbens_ice_dragon_lair, 94x dragon1_lemuel, 80x ice2_lemuel, 76x dpeg_oklob_gauntlet, 65x grunt_megastairs_3, 58x grunt_megastairs_2, 57x forest_paths, 54x minmay_lindwurm_lava, 53x grunt_megastairs_4, 51x worms_lemuel, 51x minmay_lair_drake_nest, 49x minmay_la... 23:47:39 i've never had a problem just running away in those cases 23:47:53 well, i ran away too 23:48:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:10 if you survived, then clearly the depth is fine 23:48:11 -!- WhiteShark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:48:13 (: 23:48:21 and it went okay. but it made it pretty hard to navigate through lair, since it was like right next to the lair entry stairs 23:48:44 i think that's fine 23:48:52 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:54 things that make navigation difficult encourage you to do things out of order, which makes for more interesting games 23:50:07 the doy speaks the truth. amen. 23:50:26 <|amethyst> so you'd do Pan as your first rune? 23:50:35 <|amethyst> abyss I guess 23:50:46 hmmm? 23:50:47 do things out of order 23:50:55 doesn't imply abyss as first rune 23:50:56 <|amethyst> if you can't get into Lair to do the runes there 23:50:58 i m h o 23:51:01 nah, go clear orc:3 23:51:03 well orc exists 23:51:07 <|amethyst> orc doesn't have a rune 23:51:13 <|amethyst> oh 23:51:13 yes but you get strong in orc 23:51:17 <|amethyst> I guess train 23:51:18 then you're +1XL 23:51:27 and red dragon -> yellow dragon 23:51:41 also, nothing wrong with running for the downstairs instead of the upstairs 23:51:48 snake is occasionally doable after just lair 23:51:49 all you need in many cases is a source of rc 23:51:53 depending on depth and such 23:51:55 <|amethyst> strong enough to deal with an ice fiend and several dragons? 23:51:56 or even what if you find a zerk pot etc 23:52:03 what are we talking about again? 23:52:05 ice fiends? 23:52:08 <|amethyst> ice2_lemuel 23:52:13 that doesn't make ice fiends 23:52:15 in lair 23:52:20 it only makes ice fiends in coc iirc 23:52:26 <|amethyst> oh 23:52:32 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:52:35 <|amethyst> absdepth check on getting a 4 23:52:41 <|amethyst> never mind then :) 23:53:30 <|amethyst> yeah, one dragon in a Lair vault sounds entirely reasonable 23:53:46 okay 23:56:03 @??freezing_wraith 23:56:03 freezing wraith (12W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 33-57 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1612(cold:8-23), 1313(drain speed) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 311 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 23:56:08 @??ice_dragon 23:56:08 ice dragon (16D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 74-107 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 17, 1709(claw), 1707(trample) | cold-blooded, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 04fire | XP: 983 | Sp: cold breath (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 23:56:30 early wraiths can be scarier than ice dragons 23:58:07 You have visited 1 bazaar. 23:58:07 You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ice Cave. 23:58:14 why do bazaars get a dedicated line 23:58:20 can get multiple 23:58:28 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:58:42 although I think you can for the others, does trowel still exist? 23:58:44 ??trowel_card 23:58:45 trowel card[1/1]: Trowel cards can produce bailey, bazaar, lab, trove and zig portals. You only get one of each portal per game. Removed in 0.15. 23:58:49 ah, nope! 23:59:12 i don't really have any kind of memory for the strengths of the various W monsters 23:59:36 well if you fight them early, when they're much more deadly, you'll remember :) 23:59:43 and I'm sure you remember flayed ghosts 23:59:45 <|amethyst> hrm