00:02:39 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-977-g4154171 (34) 00:05:11 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:06:10 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:56 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:11:47 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12:50 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:15:31 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-977-g4154171 (34) 00:16:25 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:32 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:26:26 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:26:51 -!- Behr has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:28:20 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:36:38 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:20 -!- Alchy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:46:55 -!- dustinm` has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:48:00 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:36 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:50:52 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 00:52:44 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:52:44 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:03 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-977-g4154171 00:56:09 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:57:06 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:15 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:59:14 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:01:48 -!- ekix has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:05:14 _q - the +10 short sword of the Sun (weapon) {antimagic, MP+9 Str+4} 01:05:44 I'll argue to the death that antimagic +int should exist, but antimagic +MP seems pretty weird 01:05:54 now that is a good combo 01:05:58 since it can never actually increase your mp by 9 01:06:01 since it's antimagic 01:17:51 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:15 if I want to randomly select between n code paths, is the best way select random2(n+1) ? 01:39:10 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:45:34 elliptic: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/25 01:45:56 !tell marvinpa https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/25 01:45:56 chequers: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 01:46:49 New branch created: pull/25 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/25 01:46:49 03chequers02 07[pull/25] * 0.17-a0-975-gee3a5dd: Rework Powered By Pain. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 58+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee3a5dd2c80c 01:52:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 01:52:14 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:54:13 success == false 01:54:38 good C++ 01:55:42 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:56:56 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:00:49 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:01:57 it's wrong? 02:03:00 oh !success 02:03:26 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:04:26 -!- Bcadren is now known as Borden 02:04:57 -!- Borden has quit [Quit: Take my advice. I don't use it anyway] 02:05:18 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as stantler 02:05:48 -!- stantler is now known as Bcadren 02:06:15 success!!! 02:06:27 -!- Stantler has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:06 that looks like it's trying to be a straight buff to PbP, again which it's unlikely to need, but I've not looked into the details 02:07:10 03chequers02 07[pull/25] * 0.17-a0-975-g2a33b55: Rework Powered By Pain. 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 58+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a33b5580c34 02:07:20 can someone remind the correct parameters to use to clone the repo to local; I'm really bad with git. 02:07:22 MarvinPA and elliptic might be more familiar with it 02:07:33 -!- copt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:07:57 Stantler: git clone https://github.com/crawl/crawl 02:08:12 assuming you actually mean clone, which makes a brand new copy of the repo 02:08:24 as opposed to just updating an existing one you have 02:08:42 no parameters? Also how do you set where it's cloning to. I have an old git bash install on this computer, but I only used it once and not for very much. 02:08:42 in which case you'd rung 'git pull' in most instances 02:08:49 add that as an argument 02:08:59 gammafunk: the proc rate is definitely higher than before, but I think the proc rate before was boringly low, so if it's too powerful with this commit the more interesting solution is to reduce the strength rather than frequency 02:09:00 git clone https://github.com/crawl/crawl 02:09:16 well what tier is it 02:09:20 ??powered_by_pain 02:09:20 powered by pain[1/2]: Taking damage sometimes restores MP (50%), or gives agility (25%) or might (25%). Tier 2 Ds mutation. 02:10:01 being like ? 02:10:03 it's going to be somewhat hard to reduce the strength, especially given that you've added stronger effects and reduced the magic effect 02:10:15 Stantler: are you using msysgit? 02:10:34 yes, it's not like you can halve the power of might 02:10:48 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:11:00 git bash version 1.8.5.2 02:11:10 ok, so msysgit it sounds like 02:11:15 since you're in bash 02:11:36 Stantler: you have a specific directory where crawl needs to go? 02:12:19 Well I do need to know where it is after I get it down. Not sure if I need git to remember where that is for further pulls or not. 02:12:32 I can't pull ths ource and then not know where it pulled to. heh 02:12:39 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:12:56 Stantler: well if it's in your home dir, you're not likely to forget, right? 02:13:07 by home dir, I mean the one you see when you start teh shell 02:13:22 do you launch crawl from bash or from the windows gui after building it? 02:13:36 I suppose. already have a bunch of stuff down at the root though. 02:14:06 I've only ever played offline. I didn't want to deal with this. I mean I knew DOS back in the day; but I never learned Git. 02:14:19 but to answer your question, you can use a path like /c/home/me 02:14:47 juse use forward slashes instead of backslashes, and being the path with a forward slash 02:15:05 I think c:/home/me might also work 02:15:19 just test any path by running something like 'ls ' 02:15:30 to see if the shell can find it and it's the folder you want 02:15:37 ls just lists the files in the given path 02:15:53 Yea I opened up Gits manual and am just -so many parameters- is there some way to easily do 'hello world'? hah 02:17:13 well the INSTALL.txt document gives details for using git to retrieve crawl and also how to build it 02:17:26 there are a bunch of steps to follow to get msysgit set up properly 02:17:37 but they're all described there 02:17:50 also there are nightly builds of trunk you can just download for windows 02:19:26 I have to wonder why I didn't learn this earlier. 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05:15:20 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:20:40 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:24:51 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:26:03 -!- rossi_ has quit [Client Quit] 05:27:12 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:52 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:38:08 seriously, the issues with upgrades is now hitting people on my server 05:38:17 they are upgrading their saves 05:38:26 from like.. before the transfer 05:38:31 and the game keeps crashing on them 05:44:06 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:46:52 TZer0: bh is the steam guy 05:47:09 chequers: okay, thanks 05:50:49 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:53:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:06:37 <|amethyst> TZer0: hm, did you copy over the saves without copying the binaries or the versions db? 06:07:23 <|amethyst> TZer0: might need to just move all the saves in crawl-git-*/saves/ into crawl-latest/saves/ 06:09:22 <|amethyst> TZer0: I'm not seeing any crash dumps for you or for kinazarov, so my first guess would be that the launcher is not even managing to execute crawl at all (which would be explained by the situation I suggested) 06:15:26 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:18:26 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:20:54 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 06:22:02 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:26:18 Hmm 06:26:22 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:27 |amethyst: I can't launch anything. 06:28:39 or rather 06:28:41 any new games 06:29:30 <|amethyst> anything in your webserver/run/webtiles.log ? 06:30:08 <|amethyst> 0.15 seems to work 06:30:33 <|amethyst> only 0.16 and trunk seem to have the problem 06:30:46 <|amethyst> do you have inprogress directories with the correct permissions? 06:31:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:31:49 checking 06:32:43 drwxr-xr-x 2 crawl crawl 06:32:54 <|amethyst> that looks good 06:39:56 |amethyst: what perms should the folders in crawl-master have? 06:40:57 <|amethyst> TZer0: the saves/ subdirs need to be owned by and writable by crawl 06:41:46 <|amethyst> TZer0: the dirs directly under crawl-master can be owned by root as long as they are readable by crawl 06:42:01 <|amethyst> TZer0: also webserver/sockets and webserver/run need to be writable by crawl 06:42:47 <|amethyst> but I imagine those last two are already correct, or you wouldn't be able to start anything in webtiles 06:43:06 uhh 06:43:07 okay 06:43:09 I found the problem 06:43:13 ERR: /usr/games/crawl-0.16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/games/crawl-0.16) 06:43:21 <|amethyst> ah 06:43:32 <|amethyst> newer OS on the host than the chroot? 06:43:49 possibly. I can chroot in and do some updates. 06:43:55 and then run updates for all crawl-versions 06:44:02 <|amethyst> yeah 06:44:08 <|amethyst> you might not need to do the latter 06:44:24 I need to do it for the ones that haven't been updated yet 06:44:36 <|amethyst> since programs can generally run with newer glibc than they were compiled against 06:44:40 hmm 06:44:42 true 06:44:47 anyway, running updates now 06:45:49 oh great, now I have a stuck entry in the lobby 06:45:59 :/ 06:46:21 <|amethyst> ? 06:46:23 <|amethyst> nujazz? 06:46:29 no 06:46:29 <|amethyst> seems to be playing 06:46:31 CcS 06:46:34 oh 06:46:36 <|amethyst> oh, I don't see that one 06:46:38 stuck in browser. 06:46:40 derp. 06:46:49 okay, works now 06:46:51 thanks! 06:47:27 <|amethyst> maybe we should have webtiles spew particularly egregious errors to the user too 06:47:51 <|amethyst> (or probably webtiles-changes should add a janitor function to view logs, if it doesn't already have that) 06:48:09 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:24 I managed to get somehow two spectral weapons 06:48:34 i guess this is a bug ? 06:48:39 <|amethyst> !lm Alarkh x=src 06:48:39 5400. [2015-05-10 11:46:34] [src=cxc] Alarkh the Impaler (L17 HuSk of Okawaru) killed Snorg on turn 31070. (Spider:3) 06:48:58 i still have it, you can spectate if you'd like 06:49:07 <|amethyst> do they last more than one turn? 06:49:15 <|amethyst> nice 06:49:16 yeah 06:49:20 <|amethyst> do you have ssh? 06:49:47 Yeah 06:49:49 <|amethyst> (we really need to get "save backup" working in webtiles) 06:50:04 i may have putty 06:50:51 <|amethyst> Alarkh: if so, save your game, log in with putty, and do 0.16 -> (A)dvanced -> (b)ackup -> (n)ormal and copy down the URL it gives you 06:50:57 <|amethyst> then post a bug on 06:50:58 <|amethyst> ??mantis 06:50:58 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 06:51:09 ok :) 06:51:40 give me a minute 06:51:52 <|amethyst> no worries, thanks for reporting it 06:52:06 <|amethyst> no idea how it happened, but maybe the save will shed some light on that? 06:52:27 <|amethyst> anything you remember about how it started? 06:52:33 <|amethyst> anything interesting happen between casting the first and the second 06:52:44 <|amethyst> falling through shafts, that sort of thing 06:54:14 i am not sure 06:54:29 i fought a spider right after going down a stair i guess 06:54:40 nothing unusual 06:57:14 http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/saves/Alarkh-crawl-0.16-150510-1156.tar.bz2 here is the link, i'll fill a mantis right away 06:57:32 -!- MackTheKnife has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:58:43 could it be this one ? 06:58:44 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7536 06:59:05 marked as resolved though 06:59:23 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:59:57 <|amethyst> I'd file a new one but mark that as related 07:00:06 -!- drasked has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:02:37 <|amethyst> hm, I see a "You feel your bond with your spectral weapon wane." in your message history 07:02:46 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:02:52 !seen chequers 07:02:52 I last saw chequers at Sun May 10 11:02:49 2015 UTC (1h 3s ago) saying 'dang -10' on ##crawl. 07:02:56 stlil around? 07:03:28 (back in a bit) 07:03:40 report done : http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/saves/Alarkh-crawl-0.16-150510-1156.tar.bz2 07:05:42 <|amethyst> hm, and casting a new sp makes only one of them (the more recently-summoned) disappear 07:06:35 i tried to reproduce this by going up and down stairs, with no success 07:06:53 <|amethyst> yeah, taking stairs should lose the sw 07:07:03 <|amethyst> did one of them follow you? 07:07:08 <|amethyst> or did you cast it twice on this floor? 07:07:09 no 07:07:22 i think i casted it twice, but im not sure 07:07:43 Possible to get multiple spectral weapons 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9713 by Alarkh 07:07:43 didn't really pay attention to it until i got two of them ^^' 07:08:28 <|amethyst> marked the two as related 07:08:50 since im here, is the imp race still being developped ? sounded like fun 07:11:16 -!- tgcid_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:11:36 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 07:12:04 <|amethyst> I'm not sure, who was working on that? 07:14:32 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15362 07:14:35 i saw it here 07:21:26 <|amethyst> %git imp 07:21:28 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-26-g7f25774: Implement Impitis (and give Imps it) 10(9 weeks ago, 3 files, 40+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f257745bfdf 07:21:37 <|amethyst> nothing's happened since then 07:21:43 <|amethyst> March 5 07:22:58 Autotargetting Mara with wands allows original to be found 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9714 by Le_Nerd 07:23:01 -!- kinazarov has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:23:05 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:31:39 -!- vale has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:32:32 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:33:36 -!- execc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:37:24 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:37:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:45:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:56:35 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:05:51 -!- Mindiell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:05:57 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:34 -!- Mindiell_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:24:42 -!- Mindiell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:24:49 -!- Inferior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:26:57 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:27:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27:15 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:06 Yermak (L21 FeEE) ASSERT(slot) in 'acquire.cc' at line 102 failed. (Depths:2) 08:31:21 dpeg_: hi 08:36:52 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:40:14 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:40:37 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:35 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:48:14 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:59 -!- Mindiell_ is now known as Mindiell 08:55:13 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:57:26 !messages 08:57:26 No messages for TZer0. 09:01:07 * geekosaur wonders what changed within the past week that clang's LTO became so chatty 09:02:13 dpeg_: bye 09:08:32 ah, damn 09:09:49 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:51 oh, hi 09:16:59 * chequers pokes dpeg_ 09:19:18 -!- copt has quit [] 09:20:05 Hallo! 09:20:13 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:20:41 -!- Honoka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:20:51 perhaps communication will be possible! 09:22:08 what's up? 09:22:21 We had an appointment for today?! 09:23:03 oh i think the emails covered most of my questions 09:23:11 I see! 09:23:26 Didn't know that, expected some super-secret behind the scenes god talk on irc. 09:23:46 now I still don't really know what you're up to :) 09:25:04 well, I'm mostly waiting on my potion petition PR to be accepted (or rejected), based on the emails I don't plan to do much more work on gozag proper 09:25:29 i'm fiddling around with a god design that is more focused on "permanent piety" though 09:25:37 Ru is! 09:26:59 sorta, but Ru has no abilities that cost piety 09:27:07 ah, I see 09:27:22 Permanent piety like Fedhas, then? 09:27:27 so it's more like 'no piety', and a player controllable conduct-power curve 09:27:30 you have to know that people were already loath to spend fruit :) 09:27:36 no, like gozag 09:27:50 but under Gozag you get piety as you play... 09:28:22 I'm not sure what you mean, chequers, Could you elaborate? 09:28:27 one mechanic I'd like to explore is a god iwth a piety meter that doesn't decay and has no maximum 09:29:01 gozag doesn't decay, but I don't think gozag abilities take advantage of the unlimited piety capacity -- you could give gozag a piety meter and people would play pretty much the same 09:29:49 ??!diesel 09:29:50 !diesel ~ diesel[1/5]: 46 ac/ 31 ev 09:29:54 ??!diesel[2 09:29:55 !diesel ~ diesel[2/5]: Invented by mikee_, the fuel to power the generation of tomorrow. 09:29:59 ??!diesel[3 09:30:00 !diesel ~ diesel[3/5]: All races have had a diesel game! 09:30:04 unlimited piety stockpiling means being able to burn off a huge amount of piety in an emergency, potentially 09:30:12 sry 09:30:18 thought i was in pm with sequel 09:31:03 yep 09:31:25 i think bribe branch is sort of close to an ability that could encourage stockpiling/mass spending 09:32:19 I've been thinking how to make bribing more concise. (And the solution is clearly not bribing individual monsters, but perhaps it could be deterministic: the first N top tier monsters switch allegiance?) 09:33:36 anyway, I think a god with permanent piety and "stockpiling" gameplay mechanic is like the "atheist but better" god style Iw as talking about last week 09:34:13 a god that gives you only very subtle, strategic benefits, and who would probably have a very slow power curve 09:34:59 a gozag who just gives you shops is vaguely like this, but it's not the only approach to player power scaling :) 09:37:28 -!- skvvv has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:37:56 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:38:03 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:40:20 Ashenzari is a bit like that. 09:50:45 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:39 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:52:00 You can go in and out vaults with the same key 09:52:04 is that also a bug ? 09:52:06 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:52:22 almost died by pressing it twice without thinking 09:55:12 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:35 -!- nonethousand is now known as Guest59921 09:56:56 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:58:13 Alarkh: interesting... sounds like an UI nicety that's actually a regression 09:58:42 actually its not the first time i notice it 09:58:52 -!- n1k has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:59:28 and since it is the only place where it occurs and i tend to spam <> keys, it feels quite dangerous 09:59:53 should i fill a mantis for this ? 10:00:54 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:12:27 Anyone in here know about why im getting an error message about SDl wrappers not working when trying to compile offline tiles? 10:16:52 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:25 -!- n1000__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:25 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:46 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:08 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:33:10 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:25 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:36:19 -!- Guest59921 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:36:19 -!- n1000__ is now known as n1k 10:36:21 -!- n1k has quit [Changing host] 10:36:21 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:18 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:42:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:44:02 -!- n1000__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:10 -!- icezizim has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:47:02 -!- n1k has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:59:09 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:02:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:07:35 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:12:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:40 !tell chequers pbp is pretty strong in my experience, i definitely wouldn't want to change the proc rate like that 11:14:40 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:14:40 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let chequers know. 11:15:44 !tell chequers and definitely not keen on giving it haste, regen sort of overlaps with pbd, and resistance seems likely to not be very useful a lot of the time 11:15:45 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let chequers know. 11:17:39 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:26 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:28:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:16 -!- execc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36:41 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:37:00 so i notice the tornado removed from the storm card just last night.. 11:37:07 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:38:09 and my GhMo of Nem was killed by a card summoned tornado exactly after the death 11:38:27 excuse me before the commit 11:39:16 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:43:51 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:58:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:15 -!- ProzacElf has 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05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 12959 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], silence [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], major healing [06!sil.. 16:27:44 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:44 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:31:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:31:10 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:32:58 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:33:29 -!- eb has quit [] 16:39:22 -!- Egglet has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:39:58 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:17 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:43:02 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:44:58 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:49 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 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joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:02 well, well, well. if it isn't ##crawl-dev. 17:12:56 two questions: 1) what areas/places could use more vaults 2) what highlevel spells should only be found in highlevel books and thus not be specified in vault-defined randbooks 17:16:36 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:18:02 -!- MgDark_SpCK is now known as MgDark 17:18:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:18:53 i think all of the highlevel spells are unique to their respective books 17:20:16 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Client Quit] 17:21:02 <_miek> well randbooks can still have them, do vault-defined randbooks often have specified spells they must have? 17:21:50 i thought randbooks couldn't generate with the highlevel spells unless they were from sif but i can't remember if that's true, and a few minutes of searching didn't find code for it 17:22:49 vault-defined randbooks only occasionally have specific spells but i recently submitted a patch so you can have vault-defined randbooks in a shop with a defined list of spells 17:23:08 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:23:08 and i have some ideas for such shops but want to make sure my book ideas are Legit 17:24:13 yes sif books can have highlevel spells 17:24:30 where are highlevel spells defined anyway 17:24:52 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:50 nicolae-: there's not really such a thing as a highlevel spell as far as the code is concerned, just highlevel books 17:26:10 okay, that's what i thought 17:26:34 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:28:19 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:29:36 -!- miserium has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:55 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:34:07 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:44 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:39:52 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 17:47:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:47:36 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twice to hunt it down & failed both times 18:15:56 I don't understand it. 18:16:09 bug as a double entendre, I guess 18:16:18 !crashlog Vgan 18:16:18 2. Vgan, XL5 DECj, T:3988 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Vgan/crash-Vgan-20150510-231042.txt 18:16:23 runrest_stop_message += You feel like you are being watched 18:16:52 much easier than trying to understand the delay code 18:16:53 (: 18:17:03 hrm 18:17:12 if that actually works, it should be a default 18:17:24 as should 'something misses you' 18:17:31 not sure why it wouldn't, although i haven't tried it 18:21:30 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:21:48 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:48 ok, that works. "stop += Something.* misses you" doesn't interrupt autotravel, though. 18:23:52 for unseen horrors or w/e 18:23:54 weird 18:25:12 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:01 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:58 that is weird 18:28:31 oh 18:28:33 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28:39 ? 18:28:42 i think the actual message is "something completely misses you" 18:28:46 lowercase s 18:28:47 Here's a proposal from rast: combine /digging and /disint into a single wand that blows away up to 4 tiles of obstacles per digging if no monster encountered, or blasts a monster per disint otherwise. Seems reasonable to me -- there's a lot of overlap between the two wands anyway. 18:29:04 and the messaging code just auto-capitalizes the first word of sentences 18:29:06 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 18:29:11 Lasty: here's a question: why? 18:29:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-982-gec879f8: Improve default ghost moth rc settings 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec879f88c57c 18:29:38 anyway, "stop += something.* misses you" works for me 18:29:54 PleasingFungus: because the two wands are very similar and overlapping 18:30:17 why have two things that do very similar things when you could have one that addresses the full range of uses, give or take 18:30:19 -!- Chance672 has quit [Client Quit] 18:30:45 -!- daek_ is now known as Daekdroom 18:31:06 ok. 18:31:30 yeah 18:31:34 !source actor::anon_name 18:31:34 Can't find actor::anon_name. 18:31:39 !source anon_name 18:31:39 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/attack.cc#l333 18:31:49 very odd. 18:31:52 i'm pretty sure that's what's used, regardless of the place in the sentence 18:32:01 and the messaging code fixes it up later 18:32:14 I would expect that the capitalization would be applied before the runrest filters. 18:32:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-983-gb95a06e: Another default rc improvement 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b95a06e4cf72 18:32:22 but apparently not. 18:33:56 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 18:34:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:35:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:35:51 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 18:36:20 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:37:01 doy: any decision on how we're shutting down the gitorious repo? 18:51:18 -!- Okiemurse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:54:19 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54:37 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:54:49 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:16 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:55:16 -!- execc has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:56:05 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:03 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:58:44 -!- Okiemurse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:04:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:13:04 gammafunk: no real preference 19:13:16 -!- mauris_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:19 well I'm just concerned that shutoff day is so close 19:13:49 all the servers are fine, it's just we have to do what we're going to do with the gitorious repo and post to crd and then you have to disable the mirror 19:14:03 yeah, i've got some free time this week, so i'm fine with doing it at any point now 19:14:08 (just been busy recently) 19:16:48 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:17:42 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 19:19:05 |amethyst: doy might have some time to help get our repo shut down, do you have any preferences for how we "close down" gitorious? 19:19:10 |amethyst or anyone else for that matter 19:22:33 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:23:58 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:07 <|amethyst> I guess a single extra commit with a README update to say "this is not the canonical source" 19:24:27 when i have a friendly tentacled monstrosity constricting an enemy, it displays as (constricted by a tentacled monstrosity), whereas most stuff in the message area describes it as "your tentacled mosntrosity". is this intended behavior? if not i will have a look through the constriction code and see if i can make it say "your" 19:24:41 <|amethyst> though I can see the arguments for ripping everything out to make it even more obvious when someone's on an old repo 19:25:39 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:27:21 amalloy: that sounds like a reasonable improvement to make 19:27:57 <|amethyst> amalloy: the relevant code would be in mon-info.cc 19:28:10 !crashlog 19:28:12 11222. Vgan, XL5 DECj, T:3988 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Vgan/crash-Vgan-20150510-231042.txt 19:28:28 nil 19:28:37 &rc vgan 19:28:38 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Vgan.rc 19:29:00 what the heck is this anyway 19:29:56 oh i see it's just a bot, i was confused since i thought it said it was XL25 19:46:56 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:06 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:52:48 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:44 -!- powder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:01:08 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:01:57 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:06:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:10:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:10:57 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:20:39 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:23:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:27:22 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:32:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:32:57 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:33:38 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:33:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 20:36:40 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 20:44:04 -!- mauris_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:45:50 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:46:25 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:47:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:17 -!- gressup_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:48 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:43 amalloy: you need a more reliable connection 20:56:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:56:02 chequers: that's my laptop going to sleep because i'm not at the computer 20:56:15 -!- rophy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:39 have you tried pouring coffee on your laptop? 20:57:46 is there an easy way, given an actor*, to find out whether it's a friendly monster, or to get a monster_info out of it? i'm looking at the constriction-description code in monster-info, and it seems like i need a way to go from an actor* to either DESC_THE or DESC_YOUR. i can see there's a hard way, casting the actor* to a monster*, and then checking m->attitude, but if there's a helper function already i don't want to do something so low 20:59:53 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:00:25 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:01:08 amalloy: you use actor::as_monster() 21:01:22 then it's a monster and you look at attitude 21:01:42 you don't cast it, just use that method 21:02:21 generally if you have actor or monster and you want to know what you can do with it, just check actor.h or monster.h and look at the methods available 21:02:32 then maybe grep for their usage to see how they're being used 21:02:57 gammafunk: yeah, i saw as_monster. i hadn't looked too closely at it, assuming for whatever reason that it would be a problem to use it on a non-monster (rather than just returning null) 21:02:58 there is a helper function for a monster, once you've made one 21:03:12 it returns NULL if the actor is the player 21:03:20 since the only actors are monsters and the player 21:03:21 yeah, i see that now 21:03:28 looked more closely once you pointed it out 21:03:53 monster::friendly() 21:04:10 is probably what you want 21:04:21 just checks specifically for ATT_FRIENDLY 21:04:28 there's also wont_attack() 21:04:40 which is just return friendly() || good_neutral() || strict_neutral(); 21:04:52 depending on what you actually want to check 21:05:29 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:05:41 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Few women admit their age. 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21:25:07 article_for I mean 21:25:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:29:55 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:48 -!- danbrgarsbuce has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:32:38 -!- MgDark_HOFi has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 21:33:20 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 21:34:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:01 <|amethyst> possibly monster_info::_apply_adjusted_description could turn DESC_A, and not just DESC_THE, into DESC_YOUR ? 21:37:09 |amethyst: I'm trying to check out the pr but not having success, do you know how to do that? 21:37:26 something like git fetch origin pull/26/head/pr26 21:37:35 according to github's docs 21:37:48 just to fetch the refs 21:38:08 <|amethyst> I have in my git config: 21:38:18 <|amethyst> (under [remote "origin"]) 21:38:22 <|amethyst> fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* 21:38:22 <|amethyst> fetch = +refs/pull/*:refs/remotes/origin/pull/* 21:38:32 ah, maybe that's what I should do 21:38:37 <|amethyst> then I do just git fetch origin and can refer to origin/pull/26/head 21:38:43 then they'll get updated when I fetch 21:38:45 <|amethyst> oh 21:38:50 <|amethyst> the command you gave 21:38:56 <|amethyst> I think you want a : instead of a / 21:39:03 oh yeah 21:39:23 still failed though 21:39:28 I assume you mean after head 21:39:32 <|amethyst> yeah 21:39:42 <|amethyst> git fetch origin pull/26/head:pr26 21:40:05 yeah couldn't find remote ref pull/26/head 21:40:07 is what I get 21:40:13 <|amethyst> is your origin actually github? 21:40:23 oh crap 21:40:26 hhaha 21:40:48 this is why we have to make flag day happen! 21:41:04 <|amethyst> so you think we've stopped committing? :) 21:41:35 I'll just assume crawl is perfect and no further changes were necessary 21:42:34 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:45:01 so is cszo down for anyone else 21:45:03 23 seconds since last activity (cszo) 21:45:12 <|amethyst> Lightli: it was for a bit 21:45:13 well that's solved :v 21:45:21 working for me 21:45:42 <|amethyst> from about an hour ago to about 20 minutes ago 21:45:45 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:46:02 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:41 -!- drasked has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:51:40 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:51:47 gammafunk: nowhere else in that file that i could see. as for elsewhere, i didn't look very hard: preferred to make a minimal change 21:52:53 there's only one place presently which uses A/YOUR, and that's for *this, not some other actor 21:53:13 <|amethyst> hm 21:53:29 <|amethyst> the/your alternation happens normally 21:53:52 <|amethyst> perhaps DESC_A should either work the same way, or result in "one of your" 21:54:19 <|amethyst> I guess "constricted by the naga" doesn't sound as good as "constricted by a naga" 21:54:39 <|amethyst> but "constricted by your naga" is probably better than "constricted by one of your nagas" 21:54:47 <|amethyst> amalloy: did you test this with uniques btw? 21:54:54 no 21:54:59 <|amethyst> amalloy: should probably be "Vashnia" and not "your Vashnia" 21:55:06 <|amethyst> not sure which your code would produce 21:55:15 i'm not sure either. i'll try it 21:57:07 |amethyst: is there a way i can order monsters around in wizmode? it's kinda hard to get them to constrict each other naturally 21:57:39 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 21:57:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:59:25 like vashnia refuses to do anything but shoot her dang crossbow 21:59:51 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:00 <|amethyst> vashnia ; nothing will help 22:00:24 <|amethyst> or I guess 22:00:26 <|amethyst> vashnial spells: ; nothing 22:00:41 <|amethyst> err, s/al/a/ 22:01:30 incidentally, if i use xo to give vashnia a greatmace, i start getting Unlinked temporary item warnings about her old weapon. obviously that can only happen in wizmode, but presumably it shouldn't happen at all? 22:01:48 <|amethyst> hm 22:02:17 <|amethyst> yeah, I wonder if it's something to do with 2H and the alt weapon slot 22:02:48 <|amethyst> could also be related to the real unliked item bugs people have reported in Elf and with orcs (beogh orcs maybe)? 22:03:49 |amethyst: fwiw it works for uniques: "constricted by vashnia". thanks for pointing out i can give her no spells/weapons 22:05:46 -!- icezizim has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:06:25 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:06:36 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 22:09:57 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:59 hm, the morgue file reads like "amalloy, the vampire necromancer, began...". i kinda think it should be either "amalloy the vampire necromancer began", or "amalloy, a vampire necromancer, began..." - the way it is now implies that i'm the only vampire necromancer in the world 22:14:16 maybe you are 22:14:59 s/vampire necromancer/deep elf fighter/ then 22:15:57 maybe you are 22:17:43 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:19:42 -!- CrackedEgglet has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 22:22:00 pretty baroque grammar 22:22:18 perhaps the game is acknowledging your highlander-esque genocide of all others like you... 22:22:29 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:31 -!- Hantyy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:23:36 you're the only whatevering whatever that's important. you're the one going into the dungeon on a quest, not the other ones. they don't matter. they are chaff. if you meet them you will slay them. 22:28:54 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:29:51 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:31:24 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:51 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:51 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:03 -!- drasked has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:32:07 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:33:45 -!- Basil__ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:17 03amalloy02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.17-a0-984-gdc8efd3: Make constriction messages use 'your' when appropriate 10(78 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc8efd31591c 22:34:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-985-gdbc3832: Constify, rename, and format. 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbc383262e5f 22:34:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-986-gf45d1aa: Improve starting note grammar (amalloy) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f45d1aadf73b 22:34:51 <|amethyst> err 22:34:52 <|amethyst> oops 22:35:06 <|amethyst> that third commit has what should be a bit of the second 22:35:11 <|amethyst> so the second won't compile 22:35:13 <|amethyst> :/ 22:35:25 better delete and recreate the repo 22:35:34 we're cutting |amethyst off from the repo... 22:35:35 <|amethyst> time to migrate to gitlab 22:35:45 <|amethyst> !rebase |amethyst 22:35:45 |amethyst rebases |amethyst. |amethyst is banished to the reflog! 22:36:57 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:26 <|amethyst> btw, did anyone see argonaut's patch to count defenses in action_counts? 22:37:45 <|amethyst> I commented on a small technical problem, but I like the idea 22:38:00 <|amethyst> is there any other stuff that would be nice to put in action counts? 22:39:43 I assume defenses means blocking as well as evading? 22:40:21 you could include details for things like rmsl/dmsl that provide ev boosts 22:41:02 and I suppose movement could be broken down 22:41:19 <|amethyst> ah, movement, that was it 22:42:06 <|amethyst> argonaut's patch does handle phase shift and deflection 22:42:13 oh that's nice 22:42:23 <|amethyst> as well as different armours 22:42:27 <|amethyst> and shields 22:43:21 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:43:26 missing? 22:43:30 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:38 <|amethyst> ? 22:43:47 <|amethyst> oh 22:43:49 <|amethyst> player missing 22:43:51 as in when you attack and miss 22:43:53 yeah 22:43:57 <|amethyst> hm 22:44:06 <|amethyst> probably should be categorized by weapon 22:44:11 <|amethyst> maybe melee: and hit: 22:44:13 there are also spells 22:44:17 <|amethyst> oh, right 22:44:35 god abilities, evocations 22:45:20 <|amethyst> I guess just counting monster dodges is a lot easier than trying to classify the misses 22:47:34 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:18 -!- T-u-r-d has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:02:27 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 23:09:56 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-895-gb769d7f: Change Gozag's amulet of faith removal mechanic. 10(14 hours ago, 3 files, 14+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b769d7f86250 23:09:56 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-896-gcb76fbe: Correlate Gozag gold with threat, not size. 10(14 hours ago, 3 files, 21+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb76fbe87aba 23:15:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:15:05 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:13 -!- tgcid_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:39 -!- tgcid has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:20:09 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:20:23 -!- Limulus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:20:57 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:38 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22:56 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:12 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24:53 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:45 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-986-gf45d1aa (34) 23:29:30 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:31:16 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:37:16 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:37:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:41:51 -!- powder has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:42:58 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 23:46:46 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:53:49 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:59:05 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1]