00:00:17 just due to the bad pull request merge 00:01:05 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:52 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-896-g249456b (34) 00:06:27 Interesting thread, PleasingFungus 00:06:27 I felt like such a dope. I've never really fully understood the argument for squarelos till now 00:06:58 ie I didn't really understand the advantage of approaching on the diagonal in circlelos 00:07:30 Never really knew that I should retreat in a certain direction 00:07:59 I never posted a message on the tavern because I was too dumb to know there was an inconsistency 00:08:16 Which is glaringly obvious to me now 00:08:37 I think I subconsciously knew something was weird 00:09:10 But I think I always assumed that Los was actually behaving like squarelos for the most part 00:09:30 So to me, just using squarelos seems WAY more intuitive 00:09:49 There's your newbie data-point 00:14:47 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:17:24 this is why you'll *never* run a coolserver johnstein!!! 00:18:23 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-896-g249456b (34) 00:20:13 :CX 00:20:20 I need to get back to updating dbro 00:21:27 a buddy in my mfc channel made a good point on circlelos vs squarelos: "has no relevance for linesprint, the one true crawl!!!111111!!." 00:21:51 it has relevant for certain zotdef maps, the one true crawl 00:23:14 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:26:15 rip 00:26:52 -!- bladedpenguin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:27:08 ya rip. 00:28:37 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:28:39 fwiw I never knew about the secret diagonal tech before I was informed 00:31:58 and now you'll never get to use it 00:33:15 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:37:15 reading this tavern thread, what the hell? people are actually enjoying squarelos? 00:37:22 I came here for sky-is-falling and I left disappointed 00:37:36 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:37:47 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:38:13 ??cbro[4 00:38:13 cbro[4/4]: 0.16 experimental summary pages at: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/experimentals/0.16/overview.html 00:39:11 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:46 I guess the same argument applies as last time: every vault ever build has assumed that a circle is a circle, and with squarelos what looks like a circle is actually a flower-thingy 00:42:45 ??elven rune 00:42:46 abyss[1/9]: A merry-go-round of doom, featuring many, many, many different kinds of monsters who will find your flesh, bones, mind, and life tasty. Be sure to pick everything up on the way and kill everything you can so the demons can get better fed. 5 levels. Rune spawns in vaults on floor 3 and deeper. 00:42:48 ? 00:43:02 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:43:03 !learn q elven_rune 00:43:03 elven rune[1/1]: See {abyssal_rune} 00:44:25 (elf:3 is notable for having a lot of high tier elves who happen to know banishment) 00:45:09 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45:23 is the elven rune just something funny that was added to linesprint? 00:46:19 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:36 yes 00:47:45 it was in zotdef too i think 00:47:47 maybe other sprints 00:48:52 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:49:16 rip 00:51:38 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:52:50 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-896-g249456b 00:54:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:08:10 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:09:15 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:56 -!- syndicus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:14:06 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:14:23 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:20:22 -!- bmfx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:53 -!- toenail has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:24:29 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:37 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:59 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:54:28 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 01:59:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:04:17 -!- Kolbur has joined ##crawl-dev 02:05:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:05:23 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 02:13:58 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:15:26 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:15:45 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:19:09 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:22:02 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-896-g249456b (34) 02:26:26 -!- buppy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:26:41 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:28:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:36:47 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:37:30 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:42:19 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46:37 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 02:56:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:45 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:46 The build was fixed. 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Yeah, it's caught in the window this time.] 04:59:13 i'm wondering if anyone knows the status of steam greenlight (bh?) 04:59:56 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:02:59 -!- ly^ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:20:15 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:21 -!- panicbit has quit [Client Quit] 05:22:40 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:44:58 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:29 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:49:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:49:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:31 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:54:33 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:55:41 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:36 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:59:06 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:59:13 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:01:21 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:22 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:04:28 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:11:05 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:13:31 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:28 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:16:10 -!- Sose has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:17:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 06:20:47 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:27 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:25:48 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:26:26 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:59 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:32:09 bh is the man 06:34:28 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:47:12 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:18 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:50:39 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:10:28 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:14:36 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:04 !tell mumra I'd like to move forward with greenlight. Others have expressed concerns about SDL issues 07:15:05 bh: OK, I'll let mumra know. 07:18:34 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:23:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:24:53 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:47:03 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 07:47:22 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:22 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 07:47:55 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:55:23 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:31 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:12:12 -!- Kolbur has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22:01 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:22:30 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27:19 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:29:00 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:37:51 -!- dob is now known as doubtofbuddha 08:41:36 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:49:03 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:58:11 what are the sdl issues? 09:05:48 <|amethyst> modifier keys sometimes get "stuck" (#9485), the game seems to get bogged down after some time (https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14904), and it has problems working with many default Windows display drivers (https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16014) 09:06:14 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:42 <|amethyst> and at least on Linux SDL2 doesn't seem to handle remapped keys very well: #9559, #9487 09:06:47 <|amethyst> s/Linux/X/ 09:07:39 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:56 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:09:16 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:10:16 <|amethyst> I have no idea why we're using opengl and it would be nice if we had an option not to 09:10:22 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:34 <|amethyst> but that was true before the SDL2 switch :) 09:15:49 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:15:58 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:53 -!- jefus is now known as jefusafk 09:27:26 i think there was a licensing issue that really wasn't an issue 09:27:27 mumra: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:27:31 !messages 09:27:31 (1/1) bh said (2h 12m 26s ago): I'd like to move forward with greenlight. Others have expressed concerns about SDL issues 09:28:45 <|amethyst> the licensing thing only matters if we want to use the steam library, and it can be worked around by making or using a non-GPL program, not specific to Crawl, that provides IPC access to the API 09:33:39 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:33:56 can the license not be tweaked to create an exemption if necessary ... i mean the license is there to server the game 09:34:04 what you describe is basically exploiting a loophole in the wording 09:34:22 <|amethyst> mumra: with the permission of a lot of people, it could 09:34:22 whether there's an intermediary or not it's still basically the same thing 09:36:04 <|amethyst> well, IMO the "not specific to Crawl" part is important 09:36:13 <|amethyst> because then you're communicating with a service 09:36:22 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:31 <|amethyst> and no one has ever interpreted the GPL to forbid communicating with proprietary services 09:37:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:29 <|amethyst> but the license (and the very existence of the LGPL) seems to make clear that linking does "count" for the purposes of the license 09:40:56 <|amethyst> if we made an IPC shim that was distributed with crawl and/or depended on the internals of Crawl, then I think it would probably count as a derived work under the GPL 09:45:03 !tell lasty yeah, I think ranged balance now is not a huge problem. 09:45:03 rast: OK, I'll let lasty know. 09:46:38 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:26 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:52:14 -!- Administrator is now known as Guest66962 09:55:23 well ... i was curious about this for a slightly tangential reason, my interpretation is that one way or another it definitely won't happen before the end of June, which is all i needed to know ;) 09:56:25 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:56:40 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:42 <|amethyst> I have vacation coming up sometime in the next month most likely 09:57:00 <|amethyst> maybe I'll try setting up a Windows build environment and testing this stuff 09:57:34 <|amethyst> I haven't been able to reproduce most of the problems on Linux, but then again I find it hard to play for a long time in tiles 09:57:59 <|amethyst> and the worst of the problems don't show up unless you've been playing for a while 09:59:41 there's the mouse-ctrl-toggle issue, the opengl on windows issue....and I'm not sure what other major Tiles problems exist 10:00:17 <|amethyst> there's the longstanding issue that if you click fast enough you can get free actions then crash the game 10:00:37 <|amethyst> but that's minor I suppose :) 10:01:08 oh, hadn't heard of that one 10:05:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:05:54 <|amethyst> it's on mantis but I can't find it at the moment 10:07:39 <|amethyst> it's several years old 10:09:16 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:10:58 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:11:54 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:57 -!- jefusafk is now known as jefus 10:20:16 -!- carwin has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:28:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31:41 wheals: I found your tornado ghost on d:15 10:31:42 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:40:56 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:43:16 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:49:06 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:58:40 !tell grunt http://prntscr.com/70b6p7 10:58:41 rockygargoyle: OK, I'll let grunt know. 10:58:52 -!- desudesudesu has quit [Client Quit] 10:59:53 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: that cuts off the important part 11:00:19 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: which would be the several lines preceding the 'ld returned 1 exit status' bit 11:01:03 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: add 2>&1 | tee build.out to the end of your build command line 11:01:09 <|amethyst> then you can upload the resulting file 11:01:19 <|amethyst> (build.out) 11:01:22 I tried to make it again 11:01:25 can't reach the error 11:02:18 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:04:22 |amethyst: http://prntscr.com/70b9b0 11:04:36 <|amethyst> aha 11:10:40 what can I do to solve that? 11:11:32 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 11:11:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:13:38 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: wait for it... 11:14:12 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-897-gc611b8f: Add new source files to Android build (rockygargoyle) 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c611b8fa13e7 11:14:23 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: pull 11:16:34 <|amethyst> it sure would be nice if we didn't have to update all four of Makefile.obj, MSVC/crawl.vcxproj*, android-project/jni/src/Android.mk, Crawl.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj when we added a file 11:16:57 well, you can not bother with the xcode project 11:17:05 <|amethyst> I was about to say 11:17:10 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:17:15 because it doesn't work anyway and adding files manually to it is error-prone anyway 11:17:16 <|amethyst> no one bothers with the last once since it hasn't worked in a long time 11:17:26 <|amethyst> s/once/one/ 11:17:35 <|amethyst> I don't know when MSVC was last tested either 11:17:38 like, my last commit was to fix the syntax, which was broken by manual modification 11:17:42 <|amethyst> probably before we switched to C++11 11:17:42 but it doesn't really make it work 11:17:56 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:39 also, even if it worked, maintaining it would be a huge hassle because xcode insists on out-of-tree builds 11:19:43 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:48 so the makefile targets that generate headers would need to be properly replicated in the project too 11:21:00 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:25 |amethyst: sorry, my browser crashed 11:21:35 I'll git pull and try again 11:21:36 thanks 11:22:43 -!- mumra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:24:09 <|amethyst> wheals: I didn't see any problems when I looked over the tags.cc part of that. there was one place where it did continue the loop that I was a little concerned about (the first loop had something like i < MAX && i < count ) but I convinced myself that it was right 11:24:32 <|amethyst> wheals: err, "that" = your scope reduction 11:26:00 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:31 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39:14 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53:09 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:55:52 |amethyst: yeah, i had to think about it a lot too 11:56:19 !learn add wheals wheals: I found your tornado ghost on d:15 11:56:19 wheals[9/9]: wheals: I found your tornado ghost on d:15 11:56:30 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:56:54 !lm * ghost=wheals squarelostest 11:56:55 2. [2015-05-01 15:37:56] Lasty the Sharpshooter (L16 OpHu of Ru) killed the ghost of wheals the Stormcaller, a powerful DEAE of Cheibriados on turn 47288. (D:15) 11:56:56 rip 11:57:12 @??salamander stormcaller 11:57:12 salamander stormcaller (05N) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 57-85 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1004(fire:11-21) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 04fire+++ | Vul: 12cold | XP: 895 | Sp: conjure flame (42d1), sticky flame range (3d5), chant fire storm | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 11:57:30 kind of strange :P 11:58:49 (air magic / fire magic) 11:59:52 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:02:13 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:33 those still aren't very good enemies imo 12:04:50 New branch created: pull/19 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/19 12:04:50 03noxdominus02 07[pull/19] * 0.17-a0-898-g87a449f: Update skills.txt 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 157+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87a449fe0551 12:05:32 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:16 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:07:24 -!- rast- is now known as rast 12:09:13 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:14 The build was broken. (master - c611b8f #2509 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60853752 12:09:14 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:10:32 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-897-gc611b8f (34) 12:12:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:23 mysterious crashdump, but maybe it's the same timeout issue 12:13:29 <|amethyst> I think it is 12:14:29 <|amethyst> a crash inside the C++ map code would be a segfault or SIGABRT, not SIGTERM 12:15:41 long as it isn't sigmund 12:17:04 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:50 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:56 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19:03 <|amethyst> SIGSAUER: program is shot 12:19:57 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 12:22:40 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:27:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:23 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:29:21 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:34 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:39:37 -!- Paradox_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:40:20 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:45:32 -!- Administrator has quit [Client Quit] 12:47:24 -!- Guest66962 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:47:58 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 12:53:18 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:56:06 -!- Weretaco has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:17 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:28 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:06:15 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:06 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:07:07 -!- rast- is now known as rast 13:08:50 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:33 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:14 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:59 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:23:08 -!- dplusplus has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:30:40 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Client Quit] 13:31:03 -!- Athaboros has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:34:01 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:37 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:38:05 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:38:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:01 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:06 -!- KamiKatze has quit [] 13:53:12 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:57:18 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 14:03:18 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:32 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:35 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:49 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:13 |amethyst: http://prntscr.com/70didq 14:09:19 also, this happened: http://prntscr.com/70djnb 14:18:15 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: does the Android SDK have some 'android update project' option? 14:18:21 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: sounds like you have to run that 14:18:26 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: the second one doesn 14:18:31 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: the second one doesn't look like it should be a problem 14:18:36 do you know how? 14:18:44 <|amethyst> no, I've never done Android development :) 14:18:51 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: see if you can catch Grunt at some point 14:19:04 okay 14:19:23 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 14:26:49 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:26:54 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:22 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:25 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:32:41 -!- debo_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:32:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:17 rockygargoyle: hm 14:37:17 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:37:30 rockygargoyle: it looks like the Android SDK isn't in $PATH any more 14:37:58 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:37:59 i haven't touched in the virtual machine in literally months 14:38:09 I have no idea what's wrong 14:39:04 what was the sequence of commands you tried issuing that led to that error 14:41:42 export path 14:41:47 and make ANDROID=y 14:42:11 <|amethyst> 'export path' is wrong 14:42:23 no, i actually used the whole command 14:42:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:42:26 <|amethyst> oh 14:42:32 <|amethyst> what whole command? 14:43:16 http://prntscr.com/70e0k4 14:43:41 sorry for the image, but I can't seem to be able to use copy-paste between the two 14:43:45 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: is "plataform" a typo? 14:44:15 uh 14:44:17 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: or, rather, is the same typo present in your directory structure 14:44:38 <|amethyst> also, after the first : there should be a / 14:44:42 no, it was a typo, indeed 14:44:45 <|amethyst> err, second : 14:44:46 <|amethyst> not :home but :/home 14:44:57 <|amethyst> you should in general use tab-completion when typing such things 14:45:23 <|amethyst> oh, but I guess that's more difficult after a : 14:45:54 http://prntscr.com/70e0k4 14:45:59 <|amethyst> what I usually do is press space, type my dir name using tab completion, then backspace over the space to replace it with : 14:46:14 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:46:32 <|amethyst> that's the same link you just pasted 14:47:01 gammafunk: yeah, I'm not sure that salamander stormcallers are really hauling their weight 14:47:08 gammafunk: I like entropy weavers tho 14:47:20 sorry 14:47:20 http://prntscr.com/70e2m7 14:47:29 Lasty: my sense is the melee from those combines better with the corrosion, yeah, but wrt stormcallers 14:47:38 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: that looks better, but you can check with: 14:47:51 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: ls -ld /home/gio/android-ndk-r10d 14:47:59 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: and likewise for the other three components there 14:47:59 I don't think the core idea is bad, but I feel their stats combined with where they place make it difficult for them to work 14:48:27 gammafunk: if you have an idea for improving them, I encourage you to implement it. Or tell me about it and I'll change it. :D 14:48:36 yeah, I'll try to think about it 14:48:39 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:48:55 http://prntscr.com/70e3h6 14:49:18 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:49:58 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:50:27 <|amethyst> elliptic: btw, I guess it's because of the number of available cells vs the cloud size, but in squarelos fcloud onto an open space, at least at low spellpower, looks weird---only the central square is "definitely hit" 14:51:23 <|amethyst> elliptic: I guess you're only guaranteed a number of squares somewhere between 5 (so you got a diamond of definitely-hit squares before) and 9 (so you don't get a 3x3 square now) 14:51:31 <|amethyst> elliptic: perhaps the cloud size could be tweaked? 14:52:11 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: check also for the other two parts /home/gio/Android/Sdk/tools and /home/gio/Android/Sdk/platform-tools 14:52:25 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: if you get a listing like that and not a "file not found", then it looks good 14:52:35 what if it didn't guarantee the middle square 14:52:35 ontoclasm: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:52:49 and was just a random set of squres in the 3x3 box 14:53:03 that would help differentiate it from pcloud, too 14:53:12 !messages 14:53:12 (1/2) PleasingFungus said (2d 19h 21m 15s ago): the logo is really cool!!! 14:53:15 !messages 14:53:15 (1/1) bh said (2d 18h 51m 54s ago): I want it on a t-shirt. 14:53:15 <|amethyst> I imagine pcloud has the same problem 14:53:59 bh: thanks 14:54:10 -!- axecop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:56:02 http://prntscr.com/70e76b 14:56:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:17 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: err 14:56:26 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: you spelled each of those differently that you did in the path 14:56:32 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: Linux is case-sensitive 14:56:39 oh 14:56:47 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: on one you wrote Android/sdk and the other android/Sdk 14:56:53 <|amethyst> but your path has Android/Sdk 14:57:17 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: in general, when you're typing a path 14:57:28 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: type the first letter or two of each component and hit tab 14:57:34 okay, it found both of them 14:57:36 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: that will fill out the rest of that path component 14:57:40 and for some reason tab isn't working 14:57:43 <|amethyst> hmm 14:57:45 or I am using it wrong 14:57:58 <|amethyst> like you'd lype: /home/gio/An 14:58:10 <|amethyst> that should fill out /home/gio/Android/ 14:58:23 <|amethyst> then you'd press S and it would fill out the Sdk/ 14:58:24 <|amethyst> etc 14:58:35 <|amethyst> but anyway 14:58:45 <|amethyst> it sounds like you're good to go 14:58:52 <|amethyst> or, at least, good to try again :) 15:01:52 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:02:26 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:05 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:04:18 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:30 browser crashed 15:04:40 should I make ANDROID=y android again? 15:08:58 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11:13 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:12:32 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:12:45 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 15:13:45 -!- Fusha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:17:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-898-gd0b8364: Update lugonu_bribe 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0b83643da2a 15:17:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-899-g13b8b7f: Remove potions of decay from vaults 10(10 minutes ago, 6 files, 6+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13b8b7f2a57b 15:17:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-900-gdbb6f31: Remove obsolete handling for zapping rods while confused 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbb6f31860e8 15:17:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-901-gf962065: Remove a depth check from a vault 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f962065f411a 15:17:47 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:18:15 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:24 -!- zxc232 has left ##crawl-dev 15:23:17 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:03 -!- MIC132 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:33:32 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:33:42 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 15:34:29 |amethyst: http://prntscr.com/70eqtx 15:34:40 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:36:13 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: and that was in the same terminal as where you ran the 'export PATH=...' command? 15:36:47 yes 15:37:11 <|amethyst> hm, perhaps Grunt has more ideas? 15:38:41 -!- carwin_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:39:15 -!- Fusha has quit [] 15:48:26 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 15:52:37 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:56:07 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:57:42 -!- Menche has quit [Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:decryption failed or bad record mac] 15:59:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:04:12 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:09:01 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:09:25 -!- Hauau has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:09:50 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:51 The build is still failing. (master - f962065 #2511 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60885964 16:09:51 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:13:48 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: hm... I think the scrolls thing 16:14:17 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: err, the scroll of random uselessness thing in lugonu_bribe wasn't supposed to be items that are useless to sacrifice 16:14:38 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: rather, it's Lugonu's sarcastic interpretation of what decks do 16:14:58 oh, hm 16:17:10 -!- jefkin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:17:17 i think the vault works best when it's items that you'd want to use but your god doesn't let you really anyway, rather than the insult-themed stuff 16:19:24 <|amethyst> yeah 16:20:09 <|amethyst> though the line isn't always clear between "insult" and "replace your god with these simple items" 16:21:12 %git ab6660eec79 16:21:12 07MarvinPA02 {kilobyte} * 0.8.0-a0-4394-gab6660e: Improve tgw_lugonu_bribe 10(4 years, 4 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab6660eec798 16:21:29 looks like it was initially intended as just being useless after all :P 16:21:29 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:21:58 (but yours seems like a valid interpretation too!) 16:23:13 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:00 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:31:29 <|amethyst> hm 16:31:53 <|amethyst> should the "no animate dead for summons" thing go away? 16:32:04 <|amethyst> or is monster animate dead still permanent? 16:33:38 it still has the issue of waiting around corpses so your summon eventually decides to cast animate dead 16:35:50 |amethyst: monster animate dead is still permanent, I think 16:36:07 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:55 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:38:34 <|amethyst> hm, I guess there's that. and that 16:40:13 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:42:47 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:43:46 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:44:16 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:46:11 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:22 -!- Inferior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:02:07 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:49 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:06:07 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:07:45 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:09:53 -!- onrul has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:40 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:13:00 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:20 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:52 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:20:30 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:22:14 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:55 -!- carwin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:24:13 |amethyst: I wonder it would be worth it to automatically remove the xv entries of permanent ally spells for friendlies with said spells 17:24:33 there's the issue of enslavement, but I guess it could show them or not depending on alignment 17:25:05 -!- nikheizen has quit [Client Quit] 17:25:15 or we could just update the spell entries to mention that they don't work if the monster is an ally 17:32:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:37:36 -!- Kolbur has left ##crawl-dev 17:38:54 -!- eb has quit [] 17:39:46 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:18 -!- jefkin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:48:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:50:08 -!- CacoS has quit [] 17:54:51 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 18:05:11 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:12 @??ereshkigal 18:06:13 Ereshkigal (16&) | Spd: 14 | HD: 18 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/30 | Dam: 4013(drain) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 12959 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], silence [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], major healing [06!sil.. 18:10:10 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:20:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:18 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:24:14 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:29:23 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:19 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:39:13 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:23 Restore ability potions still show up in "Unidentified potions" list. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9694 by triorph 18:42:09 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:16 -!- syndicus is now known as Syndicus 18:43:08 -!- Syndicus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:05 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:44:35 !issue 20 18:44:36 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/20 18:44:49 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:45:25 New branch created: pull/20 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/20 18:45:25 03amalloy02 07[pull/20] * 0.17-a0-902-g9119fc5: Remove potion of restore abilities from unregocnised item list 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9119fc5a6c46 18:46:25 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:46 <|amethyst> amalloy: needs one more bit 18:49:15 |amethyst: okay. i wasn't sure i'd caught everything. it seemed to work in wizmode but i didn't test exhaustively 18:52:25 |amethyst: hm. i don't know what it's missing. i looked for all the places where porridge is handled specially, figuring that restab wouldn't need special handling in any cases other than those, and it seemed like only the one change in my PR was needed 18:52:50 <|amethyst> about to push once I test 18:53:01 <|amethyst> the other place is in _set_removed_types_as_identified 18:53:16 <|amethyst> which AFAIK only matters for the "last unidentified potion type" logic 18:53:51 i see. i wonder how i missed that 18:56:53 !vault geh_grunt 18:56:53 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/geh.des#l662 18:58:59 !lg tabstorm 18:59:01 1260. Tabstorm the Sensei (L24 DrTm of Cheibriados), blasted by the Serpent of Hell (blast of hellfire) on Geh:7 (geh_grunt) on 2015-05-01 23:52:03, with 656844 points after 24348 turns and 4:31:10. 18:59:09 the infamous doy-grunt tagteam 18:59:46 03amalloy02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.17-a0-902-gc9cc07a: Remove potion of restore abilities from unrecognised item list (#9694) 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9cc07a97f17 18:59:46 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-903-g49d4bbf: Mark restore abilities as known. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/49d4bbfad6cd 19:02:05 03noxdominus02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.17-a0-904-g3ae1e53: Update skills.txt 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 157+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ae1e538438d 19:03:12 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:03:28 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:04:46 <|amethyst> would be nice if you could say "closes pull request #21" instead of "closes #21" 19:04:51 -!- blazinghand_ has quit [Quit: blazinghand_] 19:05:31 |amethyst: why? 19:05:56 i mean, i get that it lets you phrase the close message differently, but "closes #21" seems fine to me 19:05:58 <|amethyst> Since our bugs are on Mantis and we may at some point enable Mantis-github integration 19:06:19 <|amethyst> and since they're not on github there's no guarantee the numbers don't overlab 19:06:22 <|amethyst> overlap 19:06:42 mmmm. is the mantis/github integration identical syntax? i'd sorta expect them to be different 19:06:44 <|amethyst> OTOH, we usually do "(#MMMM)" instead of "Closes #MMMM" for mantis issues 19:06:53 <|amethyst> hopefully it's configurable :) 19:07:46 <|amethyst> I'm satisfied enough with "Closes #21 pull request" as I used, just to make it clear to humans what the # is referring to 19:07:52 <|amethyst> it's just slightly awkward 19:07:52 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:12:17 are we just waiting on a couple servers for flag day to commence? 19:12:35 <|amethyst> I think not even that at this point 19:12:54 <|amethyst> Just for someone to give the word on C-R-D at the same time that doy turns off the mirror 19:12:56 why does ?/b use different letters for the various branches than G does? 19:13:26 oh, i see. it includes a lot more branches you can't G to, like wizlab 19:13:32 <|amethyst> possibly along with a push to gitorious to make the docs say "this is out of date, the repo has moved to here" 19:13:58 <|amethyst> amalloy: actually wizlab has a G abbreviation, it's just only relevant with &~ 19:14:03 <|amethyst> and not G itself 19:14:04 yeah, i know 19:14:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:59 anyway i think it'd be nice if i could ?/bm to look at the slime pits, instead of having to scan through the list on ?/b 19:15:24 <|amethyst> I guess there's the question of which order to list them in in ?/b 19:15:56 <|amethyst> I guess dungeon order as currently makes the most sense 19:16:12 <|amethyst> but neither dungeon order or abbrev order is particularly good if you only know the branch name 19:16:16 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:23 <|amethyst> since you have to scan the list either way 19:24:14 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Client Quit] 19:26:07 -!- frank2368 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:27:01 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:36 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:35:49 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:42:38 Gnoll camp serial vault places gnolls carrying multiple spears 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9695 by Skrybe 19:43:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46:14 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:46:48 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:01 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:01 -!- Doesnt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:01 -!- Doesnty is now known as Doesnt 19:52:01 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:52:23 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:52:25 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:59 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 19:56:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-905-g386f35f: Shorten tests. 10(28 minutes ago, 5 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/386f35f2929a 19:56:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-906-g63a5c37: Remove a ZotDef test. 10(27 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63a5c37f5d09 19:56:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-907-g2807436: Always run tests in the same order. 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/28074366453a 19:58:06 for lugonu & tso's weapon changing abilities, how would it be to make the ability take all your piety, rather than be limited to once per game? 19:58:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:01:24 -!- Syndicus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:24 -!- Furril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:28 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:01:46 -!- Syndicus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:49 -!- zero_one_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 20:05:27 what's this monster repo for? 20:05:41 <|amethyst> bh: moving it from my private repo to github 20:05:53 what will it do? :) 20:05:58 <|amethyst> @??-version 20:05:58 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.17-a0-870-gcb215c1 20:06:03 <|amethyst> that 'monster' 20:06:35 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:38 chequers: If you made that Lugonu/TSO weapon brand change it would become literally never worth it. 20:08:06 reaverb: well, the numbers can be tweaked.... 20:08:18 I'm just wondering if making it not 'once per game' would have any support 20:08:22 Sure! 20:08:30 Err, you can make it worth it. 20:09:00 But I think anything other than "once per game" makes them very-samely to the other god abilities? 20:09:30 If the piety cost is low enough it is ever used, you will almost always brand your endgame weapon. 20:10:18 specifically, I was thinking "it would be nice for lugonu/tso followers to use their god's brand for more of the game" 20:10:37 disto in particular has interesting downsides 20:11:31 distro in particularly has very annoying downsides >_> <_< 20:11:32 -!- Sovek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:56 you misspelled interesting :P 20:12:02 Also you I think "what weapon to brand" is normally more interesting than how the brand affects your play. 20:12:11 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:12:25 Ther are brands that are interesting without being annoying. Things like Freezing slowing (coldblooded) monsters. 20:13:00 yeah, i like that one too 20:13:26 I felt like a Pro when I realized that a freezing weapon in lair was probably not a bad backup plan if I didn't have rpois and no flaming edged weapon 20:13:34 (felt like) 20:14:56 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:24 <|amethyst> @?-version 20:15:25 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.17-a0-870-gcb215c1 20:16:32 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:16:48 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:16:51 <|amethyst> okay, monster should be migrated now. In the process, I renamed bleeding-edge-crawl => master => ancient 20:18:40 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:14 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:20:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 20:20:31 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-907-g2807436 20:21:29 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:40 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:40 The build is still failing. (master - 49d4bbf #2513 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60908191 20:21:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:22:36 <|amethyst> ??monster 20:22:36 monsters[1/4]: The most up-to-date code for %?? and %? can be found at http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=monster-trunk.git , or clone from http://s-z.org/neil/git/monster-trunk.git , branch 'bleeding-edge-crawl'. 20:22:45 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:06 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:24:01 unknown monster: "moon_troll" 20:24:01 %??moon_troll 20:24:15 oh that's just gretell? 20:24:24 <|amethyst> !learn set monsters[1] The most up-to-date code for @?? can be found at https://github.com/crawl/monster/ : branch 'master' for trunk, 'dcss016' for 0.16, and likewise back to 'dcss09'. 20:24:25 monsters[1/4]: The most up-to-date code for @?? can be found at https://github.com/crawl/monster/ : branch 'master' for trunk, 'dcss016' for 0.16, and likewise back to 'dcss09'. 20:24:40 <|amethyst> gammafunk: chei is running on a server with truly ancient g++ 20:25:00 <|amethyst> I haven't had a chance to move it to crawl.s-z.org 20:25:04 |amethyst: would it make sense to just disable the monster lookup on chei? maybe it's serving old versions 20:25:13 <|amethyst> yeah, probably 20:25:16 <|amethyst> hm 20:25:17 <|amethyst> well 20:25:22 <|amethyst> I could disable trunk 20:25:26 yeah 20:25:28 Note the Chei database is outed. 20:25:29 <|amethyst> %? 20:25:33 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.15-b1-44-gb588af2 20:25:33 <|amethyst> %?-version 20:25:38 heh 20:25:38 <|amethyst> %0.15-version 20:25:41 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.15-b1-44-gb588af2 20:25:41 <|amethyst> %0.15?-version 20:25:45 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.16-a0-1880-g4c91d73 20:25:45 <|amethyst> %0.16?-version 20:25:57 Could not execute monster-0.17: No such file or directory 20:25:57 <|amethyst> %0.17?-version 20:26:00 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.16-a0-1880-g4c91d73 20:26:00 <|amethyst> %??-version 20:26:09 oh I see 20:26:12 <|amethyst> hmm 20:26:13 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-6 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 20:26:13 %?goblin 20:26:15 <|amethyst> no one currently has 0.16 20:26:19 didn't realize that was 0.15 20:26:30 @?goblin 20:26:30 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-6 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 20:26:45 @?-version 20:26:45 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.17-a0-907-g2807436 20:30:23 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:23 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 20:30:23 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 20:30:25 For newer versions, use @?? to query Gretell. 20:30:25 <|amethyst> %??-version 20:30:39 For newer versions, use @?? to query Gretell. 20:30:39 <|amethyst> %0.16?-version 20:30:41 For newer versions, use @?? to query Gretell. 20:30:41 <|amethyst> %0.22?-version 20:30:44 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.15-b1-44-gb588af2 20:30:44 <|amethyst> %0.15?-version 20:30:48 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.14.1 20:30:48 <|amethyst> %0.14?-version 20:30:52 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.9.2 20:30:52 <|amethyst> %0.9?-version 20:30:59 <|amethyst> yay 20:31:22 -!- Limulus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:32:13 _The ballistomycete is devoured by a tear in reality. 20:32:43 <|amethyst> %source 20:32:43 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=cheibriados.git http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=monster-trunk.git https://github.com/crawl/crawl/ 20:32:49 <|amethyst> hmm 20:32:55 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:34:54 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:54 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 20:34:54 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 20:35:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:35:02 <|amethyst> %source 20:35:02 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=cheibriados.git https://github.com/crawl/monster/ https://github.com/crawl/crawl/ 20:35:06 <|amethyst> %repo 20:35:06 http://s-z.org/neil/git/cheibriados.git https://github.com/crawl/monster/ https://github.com/crawl/crawl/ 20:37:33 <|amethyst> Napkin: I updated ~/source/monster/ to pull from the github repo instead of my s-z.org repo, and to use the renamed branches ('master' instead of 'bleeding-edge-crawl') 20:38:47 -!- fazisi has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:39:16 <|amethyst> Napkin: wondering if http://git.develz.org/monster.git should be cloned from https://github.com/crawl/monster/ now 20:39:37 -!- someoneone has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:41:25 -!- Silas is now known as fazisi 20:42:37 doy: are you ready to disable the gitorious repo and make github pushable? 20:47:13 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:47:34 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:56 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:51:39 !seen CanOfWorms 20:51:39 I last saw CanOfWorms at Fri May 1 23:29:23 2015 UTC (2h 22m 16s ago) joining the channel. 20:51:46 wargl 20:53:29 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:38 ?/wargl 20:53:39 No matches. 20:53:56 CanofWorms: don't like being pinged? 20:54:30 just responding if anyone is actually looking for me :v 20:54:32 wargl. 20:54:55 if you have any newer version of crypt floor, I can commit it 20:55:30 not at the moment 20:56:24 http://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-bh -- that's what's checked in now 20:58:13 the most recent batch I sent should be good 20:58:25 as the main set 20:58:30 I should make some variations soonish 20:58:32 k 20:59:11 |amethyst: do you have any interest in CDN'ing spritesheets and other assets? 20:59:37 or at least caching hitting between versions if the sprites haven't changed 20:59:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:54 <|amethyst> not much interest in CDN, but the latter would probably improve the user experience for trunk 21:02:08 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:09 The build was fixed. (master - 2807436 #2514 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60912156 21:02:10 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:02:36 |amethyst: my thinking is that we hash the assets, throw them in a single directory then have a versioned index that goes out with every build 21:03:20 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:24 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:03:47 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:05:07 yeah i don't think cdn will help much since players are theoretically close to the online server anyway 21:05:31 but doing cross-build caching would be fantastic 21:05:56 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:06:35 if you need any help with the webtiles code i'll put my hand up too 21:07:09 <|amethyst> bh: hm... sounds reasonable in general, but e.g. the javascript stuff depends on filenames 21:07:19 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:08:58 |amethyst: sure, so we load the index first and then substitute in the asset hashes where we'd otherwise refer by filename 21:10:23 03bh02 07* 0.17-a0-908-gd753fea: Update crypt floor tiles {CanOfWorms} 10(55 seconds ago, 9 files, 8+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d753fea32add 21:11:16 <|amethyst> bh: you'd have to implement that in pure javascript since we won't have jquery yet by that point 21:11:49 <|amethyst> probably that could be done as part of minification etc in webtiles-changes 21:12:50 <|amethyst> if would be nice if there were some way to tell the browser "this resource is the same as that resource, if you already have that one in cache" 21:13:18 <|amethyst> then stuff could stay in the same location and the indexing could be handled entirely in the webtiles server 21:14:24 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:58 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:15:32 the only strategies I can think of for doing that are really bad 21:15:52 bh: just renumbering the tiles? 21:16:15 johnstein: no, the sprites changed 21:18:10 -!- rchandra1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:31 .moon 21:19:33 39. [2015-05-01 16:14:52] ZiggyStardust the Invulnerable (L27 DsIE of Makhleb) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 139835. (Crypt:2) 21:19:39 how apropos 21:20:54 <|amethyst> bh: probably if we did that for just the images it wouldn't be too bad 21:20:54 -!- rchandra1 is now known as rchandra 21:21:25 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:21:25 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:39 <|amethyst> bh: would have to add some extra templating logic to webserver/game_data/templates/game.html 21:23:31 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:52 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:26:39 03bh02 07* 0.17-a0-909-gea31ab0: Remove unused crypt floor tiles. 10(12 minutes ago, 17 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea31ab0b52f1 21:26:39 03bh02 07* 0.17-a0-910-ga669010: Clumsy Crypt floor tile variations {bh} 10(53 seconds ago, 3 files, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6690104b51d 21:30:25 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:30:37 -!- tannisroot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:40:53 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:41:04 -!- AlphaQ_ is now known as AlphaQ 21:41:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:46 hrm. Should we change ?id so you can target items on the floor? 21:49:59 that was discussed, though not limited to ?id. 21:50:05 it might even be in the plan somewhere. 21:50:13 unfortunately, it's impossible to say for sure, since no one has ever read the plan. 21:50:50 in whispered corners, some claim that the plan doesn't exist, that it never existed. 21:51:17 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:54:04 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:55:17 ?/the plan 21:55:18 Matching entries (4): chaos_brand[5] | fuk_da_sac[2] | not_desperate_enough[4] | plant[4] 21:55:26 describe-spells.cc:139:68: warning: ISO C++ does not support the ‘z’ gnu_printf length modifier [-Wformat] 21:55:29 tsk tsk 21:56:32 nice mojibake 21:56:37 <|amethyst> learn add plan A man, a plan, a Crawl war canal: panama 21:56:53 ! 21:57:05 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-910-ga669010 (34) 21:57:19 PleasingFungus: they read the plan! they do!!! 21:57:22 they all read it.... 21:57:26 has there been another tweak to randart negative egos? a buddy has been commenting all day that he's finding tons without any bad egos. confirmation bias or real? 21:57:32 gammafunk: rip 21:57:41 <|amethyst> would be nice if we could turn off pedantic printf-format warnings without turning off pedantic or printf warnings in general 21:58:27 %git :/changelog 21:58:36 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-890-gb972770: Restore an overlooked changelog entry 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b972770884f0 21:58:48 I've been finding plenty of things with negative egos 22:00:09 that's what I was assuming. I didn't see anything in the changelog or remember reading anything in here 22:00:27 |amethyst: we can, can't we? 22:00:29 rng can be funny sometimes 22:01:02 the closest I've come to a win was helped along by the game giving me some absolutely amazing ego rings / weapons / armour 22:01:08 http://i.imgur.com/g3getzZ.png vault error? 22:01:15 this was before the tweak that made everything awesome for a bit, iirc 22:01:49 I assume you don't mean the +255 slay ring one 22:02:12 I think he meant the "everything is holy wrath" one 22:03:40 neither, the tweak that had things coming up with 6 +n stats (3<=n<=9 or thereabouts) 22:03:49 or whatever it was 22:04:00 lots of plusses very few minuses 22:05:38 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:06:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:08:49 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:09:51 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:06 !lg . x=status 22:11:07 2891. [status=berserking] gammafunk the Severer (L13 MiBe of Trog), slain by a slime creature on Swamp:1 on 2015-05-02 03:04:02, with 33004 points after 8061 turns and 1:18:41. 22:12:23 -!- carwin_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:13:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:15:30 I blame reaverb 22:19:35 would removing hunger loss from movement be a crazy proposal? 22:19:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:19:56 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:19:56 the what 22:20:10 hunger has an affect on spellcasting and berserk and stuff 22:20:26 are you talking about hunger over time 22:20:28 but does getting hungry from moving around serve any purpose besides interrupting autotravel 22:20:28 yeah 22:20:39 guess it's any action, sure 22:20:41 <|amethyst> it doesn't interrupt autotravel if you turn on the right settings 22:20:49 heh 22:20:51 then you can die though 22:21:01 but either way, is there a purpose to it? 22:21:01 ? 22:21:03 <|amethyst> yes 22:21:16 like some tedious edge case that you can do if its not there 22:21:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:24 you can have it autoeat. but I guess if you automate something it calls that something into question 22:21:27 <|amethyst> the whole mummy playstyle 22:21:44 <|amethyst> well 22:21:48 crate made a good post about this a bit back 22:21:50 <|amethyst> at least as practiced by some 22:22:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:27 you mean like, staying on each floor until you can't, is that the mummy playstyle you refer to? 22:22:42 i should find that cratepost 22:23:54 ahh okay, sitting and waiting for monsters to wander by is bad 22:24:37 in general I think it's good to have an incentive to keep moving 22:24:46 this is something that crawl is very bad at but we have at least something 22:24:48 piety loss is my incentive 22:24:55 not every god of course 22:25:19 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:25:29 for example, the demi god 22:25:32 also, the d:1 god 22:25:53 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26:03 <|amethyst> food could be better at what it is supposed to do 22:26:13 <|amethyst> if it weren't also used for casting etc 22:26:18 yes 22:26:22 -!- Frank2368 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:26:25 ?/food goldificiation 22:26:26 No matches. 22:26:35 that has nothing to do with it... 22:26:45 it's totally orthogonal 22:27:14 -!- copt has quit [] 22:28:07 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:28:44 <|amethyst> could revive djinn 22:29:00 <|amethyst> for all races 22:29:11 <|amethyst> i.e. make spellcasting use glow rather than hunger 22:29:29 glow is just a clunkier representation of hunger 22:29:34 you must rest this long... 22:29:53 isn't spell hunger supposed to be tactical while pushing you forward is strategic? 22:30:08 that's what it is in my mind 22:30:13 separating those in some way would be nice 22:30:19 <|amethyst> spell hunger is also strategic 22:30:22 I mean, pushing you forward affects the tactics you use... 22:30:27 |amethyst: he's arguing it shouldn't be 22:31:44 I guess what I'm calling "tactical" is once you see a monster 22:31:46 <|amethyst> oh, because you wouldn't be able to starve so at most your casting is delayed until you get a corpse 22:31:49 vs how you find monsters to see them 22:32:36 ok, I'm not sure that's super meaningful, but that doesn't contradict what I said. 22:32:53 I guess I don't see how pushing you forward affects tactics then 22:33:26 btw someone in ##crawl found a /hw with -4 charges 22:33:37 nice 22:34:17 <|amethyst> oh 22:34:21 sounds like it is probably related to 965e8ebc0bbbc0db6437de25815ccb2c21f72b81 b/c jory zapped it a bunch 22:34:28 but i don't know what is going on in that commit enough to say 22:34:45 oh, that Jory! 22:35:29 I guess it's just total coincidence that the last two times I've seen eresh either myself or spectating, she's had a tele wand 22:35:34 no 22:35:34 but it is pretty funny either way 22:35:36 that's my fault 22:35:40 oh really? 22:35:43 yeah 22:35:45 heh 22:35:57 %git a6550567208b81b077942d061538aec579fbad2f 22:35:57 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-427-ga655056: Don't give Cerebov a wand of flame 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 43+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6550567208b 22:36:10 well, remember that second mibe that found ocpa? 22:36:23 that's... kind of my fault? 22:36:24 I was maybe dead since trog wrath right as the eresh fight started 22:36:31 <|amethyst> @??ereshkigal 22:36:31 Ereshkigal (16&) | Spd: 14 | HD: 18 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/30 | Dam: 4013(drain) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 12959 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], silence [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], major healing [06!sil.. 22:36:47 and eresh conveniently removes herself from the picture with /tele 22:36:49 so thanks 22:36:54 np 22:36:57 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:10 otoh I quit in dis due to corrosion from some rust devils 22:37:16 so I guess you had your revenge 22:37:27 mm 22:37:31 yeah rust devils ruined an AK high score run of mine too 22:37:33 happy to hear rust devils doing something :) 22:37:46 DrKe: also in dis? 22:37:50 yes 22:37:57 rust devil killed me in orc4 22:37:57 I was pissed 22:38:05 in the tourney 22:38:06 yeah, I should have just teled, don't know why I decided to melee them 22:38:22 i got petrified 22:38:32 tabstorm has been complaining about that for the last week 22:38:36 got so mad I went and installed a faucet in the bathroom that had been sitting around for a few years 22:38:37 dis petrify effect 22:38:42 well cancellation is a thing at least 22:38:50 but its lethal in combination with a rust devil 22:38:56 yeah but those are rare 22:38:56 so gammafunk you are responsible for my new bathroom faucet 22:39:02 even if you sruvive to the end of the petrification, you usually are dead 22:39:07 johnstein: uh, but 22:39:10 can't they drop both petr and a rust devil on you at the same time 22:39:12 !lg . place=orc -tv 22:39:12 PleasingFungus made rust devils 22:39:13 2. johnstein, XL15 HOGl, T:35113 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 22:39:14 what they are 22:39:16 not me! 22:39:23 now if a *moon troll* killed you 22:39:25 AF_CORR = bs 22:39:28 PleasingFungus: uh I meant you 22:39:37 ;) 22:39:39 it was a stupid death 22:39:46 DrKe: you're probably not no. 1 fan of entropy weavers then 22:39:56 I was on a meleebug two game streak 22:40:03 trying to prove I didn't suck 22:40:05 johnstein: it seems like there should be a lot of tactical side effects from 'having to hurry'; off the top of my head, you can imagine having to burn consumables in a moderate-difficulty fight because you don't have time to regen hp/mp 22:40:10 (consumables like wands or w/e) 22:40:12 those are good because they are another monster that kills people who dont pay attention 22:40:14 like catoblepae 22:40:31 there arent enough of those i think 22:40:33 !lg . t s=char,day(end) 22:40:34 5 games for johnstein (t): 2x GrBe (20150314, 20150316), 2x HOGl (20150323, 20150329), MfTm (20150322) 22:41:06 !lg . t s=day(end),char,place 22:41:06 5 games for johnstein (t): 20150314 (GrBe (D:5)), 20150316 (GrBe (D:$)), 20150322 (MfTm (D:$)), 20150323 (HOGl (Orc:4)), 20150329 (HOGl (D:$)) 22:41:13 my last mibe got scared of only having like 4 rations period in the game and abandoned spider for a bit 22:41:29 then it found a bunch of food and decided to die while zerking in swamp instead 22:41:51 I thought I could take the Orc high priest. got corroded FAST and was too dumb to recover 22:42:09 yeah, those 4 summons are nasty because of those but especially sixfurries 22:42:28 well, and sun demons 22:42:34 are furries only 4? 22:42:49 I know their number is way off in terms of how dangerous they can be 22:42:56 or perhaps just "one off" 22:43:02 ?/sixf 22:43:03 Matching terms (1): sixfirhy; entries (8): 4[1] | af_elec[1] | common_demon[1] | demonic_guardian[2] | jiangshi[1] | kobold_demonologist[1] | obsidian_statue[1] | trivia[20] 22:43:08 @??sixfirhy 22:43:08 sixfirhy (124) | Spd: 40 (move: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 2/20 | Dam: 1511(elec:7-9) | 05demonic, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 502 | Sz: little | Int: normal. 22:43:21 @??sun_demon 22:43:22 sun demon (083) | Spd: 12 | HD: 10 | HP: 42-69 | AC/EV: 10/12 | Dam: 3004(fire:10-19) | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 804 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 22:43:43 they are 4, yeah 22:43:45 they are da best 4 22:43:48 like sun demons 22:43:51 are the best 3 22:44:03 the king of 3s 22:44:11 the sun kings 22:44:25 I watched someone pit sixfuries against pan lords 22:44:34 in crawl battle. was fun to watch 22:44:50 absolute worst is casting summon demon 22:45:05 and getting a hostile sixfirhy 22:45:06 sixfirhies 22:46:32 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:48:43 !lg MFC s=squarelos-0.17 won 22:48:44 No keyword '-0.17' 22:49:18 !lg mfc explbr=squarelos-0.17 won 22:49:19 1. advil the Axe Maniac (L27 MiFi of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-05-02 03:45:52, with 1792869 points after 65283 turns and 4:33:10. 22:49:52 PleasingFungus, im not johnstein (sorry thats super-confusing), I can imagine a game where that is true but I don't think it's true in crawl as it is 22:49:57 sorry 22:50:04 yes of course 22:50:12 tbh I lost track of this conversation. 22:50:17 yeah its okay so did I 22:50:27 just scrolled back and wanted to not ignore you 22:51:02 k 22:51:46 johnstein: the kw squarelostest is a bit shorter 22:51:51 tbh it should probably just be squarelos 22:52:01 !kw squarelos 22:52:01 No keyword 'squarelos' 22:52:05 !kw squarelostest 22:52:05 Keyword: squarelostest => explbr=squarelos-0.17 22:52:16 !kw squarelos explbr=squarelos-0.17 22:52:18 Defined keyword: squarelos => explbr=squarelos-0.17 22:52:25 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:31 !lg * squarelos won s=char 22:52:32 3 games for * (squarelos won): DDAs, OgBe, MiFi 22:53:00 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:53:16 ranged is now OP, I guess 22:53:16 wonder if elliptic has anything else he'd like to wait on before merging this 22:53:19 ; ) 22:53:41 As is *super* ranged! 22:53:44 those wands 22:53:47 er 22:53:49 ? 22:53:55 those bluwguns 22:53:57 *blowguns 22:53:59 mm 22:54:02 not your night for words 22:54:10 was anyone going to fix the negative-charge wand thing? 23:03:40 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-910-ga669010 (34) 23:04:35 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: sure 23:05:04 I'm looking at the commit but I'm not sure how that bug could be caused by that commit... it doesn't even modify charges 23:05:22 <|amethyst> it does modify the "check for zero charges code though" 23:05:42 <|amethyst> look what happens if charges == 0 and used_count == ZAPCOUNT_EMPTY 23:06:16 heh 23:12:11 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:12:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-911-g63610f1: Stop handing out stacks of spears (9695) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63610f1da039 23:14:15 -!- coyo7e has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:14:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-912-g3e33c8f: Don't let monsters zap empty wands down to -32768. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3e33c8f1e6ad 23:14:57 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:15:23 nega-wands.... 23:16:35 <|amethyst> now someone just needs to get a monster to zap the wand down to -32769 before they transfer their game 23:16:52 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:17:23 takes some patience 23:17:26 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:29 another good reason for the food clock! 23:20:39 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:22:34 what happened if you recharged nega-wands? 23:22:55 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it added to the number of charges as usual 23:22:58 ug 23:23:03 <|amethyst> gammafunk: which could leave it still in the negatives 23:23:27 thanks, devs 23:23:28 <|amethyst> I guess that can be fixed without a tag 23:25:00 we don't have any serious plans to break save compat this release, do we? 23:25:10 I'd assumed we'd do that early in the alpha 23:25:45 ??0.17 23:25:45 I don't have a page labeled 0.17 in my learndb. 23:25:48 ??0.17_plan 23:25:49 0.17 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.17_plan 23:30:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:34:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-913-g36eb389: Fix transferred negawands and hyperwands. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/36eb389edc20 23:36:36 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:57 -!- Lasty_1 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:43 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:38:33 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:44:35 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:45:59 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:36 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:55:49 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed]