00:05:02 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:37 -!- eb has quit [] 00:10:44 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-854-g4a4ba72 (34) 00:15:16 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:15:54 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:17:43 -!- Sharkman1231_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:18:00 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:34 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:46 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24:18 amalloy: thanks, your github suggestion works 00:24:52 chequers: static means like twenty different things in C; in this context, it means you intend the function to be visible only in the current file 00:25:03 (which means that not declaring it anywhere is fine) 00:25:39 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:26:01 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:47 ok, that makes sense 00:27:57 I figured just prefixing with _ like Python was sufficient :P 00:29:02 Felids can wield potions by the way. 00:40:29 -!- copt has quit [] 00:49:29 so what's the status on moving to github? 00:53:34 making gitorious read-only? 00:58:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:00:56 -!- octotoad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:02 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:19 -!- soundlust has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:29 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 01:01:42 -!- zero_one has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:02:30 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:18 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:30 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:45 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:04:18 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:05:04 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:07:36 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:09:40 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:11:10 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:17:05 -!- aarujn has quit [Quit: aarujn] 01:24:56 <|amethyst> doy: IMO shut off the mirrorer and send an email to the list saying "okay, push to github now" 01:25:08 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:30 <|amethyst> doy: you're probably the best person to do this since you have to turn off the mirrorer 01:26:04 <|amethyst> doy: would be nice to make gitorious read-only but I guess that's not strictly necessary 01:26:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:26:53 <|amethyst> doy: I like your idea of one last commit to gitorious saying "don't use this, here's the new location" 01:27:13 <|amethyst> doy: also means pushes would not be fast-forwards, so are more likely to be caught 01:27:48 <|amethyst> doy: I wouldn't want to wipe the repo, though, because probably not all users have switched 01:28:08 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:28:28 <|amethyst> doy: (players who compile trunk, that is---devs should have switched) 01:30:57 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:15 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:32:18 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:37 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:36:48 -!- CcS has quit [Client Quit] 01:46:41 is it just "git remote set-url origin https://github.com/crawl/crawl" ? 01:48:12 I think it's "https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git" 01:48:37 not sure if the lack of .git at the end will screw things up. but having it definitely works 01:49:02 thanks. seemed to work but I'll add it anyway 01:49:16 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:49:19 it doesn't matter either way 01:49:28 .git is only required for ssh/git proto, iirc 01:49:33 not for that either 01:49:39 ach 01:49:44 Hey, maybe have acid "rot" gargoyles? 01:50:20 1) cool 2) why 3) patch? 01:52:07 2. Because they have ridiculously wide defenses and effective hp. 3. None since I am on school computer, but wouldn't be hard to implement, I think. 01:52:43 imo -20% isn't very effective HP 01:52:54 Since there's going to be more acid in 0.17, they'd have to be more careful and have to use rCorr amulet more frequently ( restricting amulet slot ) 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-855-g488d7d3: Make potion petition price more variable. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/488d7d3bb739 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-856-g63f080f: Discount non-useful effects for Potion Petition. 10(17 hours ago, 3 files, 78+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63f080f1c3c2 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-857-g5600395: Make Potion Petition healing/magic more consistent. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 24+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5600395afa4b 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-858-gf4af93d: Turn some gozag numbers into constants 10(17 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f4af93de5917 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-859-gbe1062a: Pull pricing logic out of gozag_potion_petition. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 32+ 24-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/be1062af5558 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-860-gdbe8c55: Change Gozag's amulet of faith removal mechanic. 10(17 hours ago, 3 files, 10+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbe8c55c8437 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-861-g2ebab45: Document gozag_potion_petition terminology. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ebab451e432 01:53:11 @??war_gargoyle spells:bolt_of_corrosion 01:53:11 Invalid spell slot format: 'bolt of corrosion' in 'bolt_of_corrosion' 01:53:40 Yeah, but they have +AC/rElec/rN+ plus great aptitudes with armour and shields. 01:53:48 Plus rRot 01:54:02 AND the chance to negate torments. 01:54:36 And the rPois inf 01:54:50 Even if they have -20% hp, it is still very effective 80% hp. 01:55:25 you can just swap in rcorr if you arent wearing something like faith anyway 01:56:18 (it's not a chance to negate torment but a 50% reduction in torment damage) 01:57:06 After thinking about it, I think acid is better than average against Gr already. It strips AC which they rely heavily on and the lower your weapon base damage the worse the -slaying malus is -- and Grs often use demon whips 01:58:11 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 02:00:10 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:00:21 Maybe Gr could get the slow effect from statueform as a nerf, but it's pretty significant and is sorta the naga gimmick 02:01:55 I think Gr are a well designed race in that they are played commonly as both meleedudes and mages 02:02:09 so nothing to hurt that 02:02:50 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:03:36 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:52 Gr is already weaker than Hu IMO 02:05:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:08:19 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:09:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:10:52 What, Gr to my experience is ridiculously strong. 02:10:58 Basically Mi-tier. 02:11:51 http://pastebin.com/0cqA0S8n 02:13:29 They are cool race, but they'd just need some nerfbatting. 02:13:47 they are really fragile in extended due to hellfire 02:14:06 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:14:35 i think its just gr are really friendly for players who arent adept at winning crawl 02:19:41 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:20:41 agreed with simmarine 02:20:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:21:01 Yeah, hellfire is dangerous, but it is especially dangerous for everyone with less hp than average. Gargoyles have benefits of lesser torment damage as well, so they have still strong chances when getting torment + hellfired ( 200 -> 100-3d20, 160 -> 120-3d20 ) 02:21:20 And I have no problem with having newbie-friendly races. Gargoyles just feel bit -too- powerful. 02:21:47 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:24:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-854-g4a4ba72 (34) 02:24:46 I'm not talking about hellfire, jeez 02:25:08 Gr has really bad HP for a long time before the AC starts compensating 02:25:41 for non-bot play I would say Hu does much better for a long time 02:26:28 !lg * gr-- / won 02:26:29 1831/130099 games for * (gr--): N=1831/130099 (1.41%) 02:26:34 !lg * mi-- / won 02:26:35 3005/267284 games for * (mi--): N=3005/267284 (1.12%) 02:26:40 !lg * ho-- / won 02:26:41 1608/176109 games for * (ho--): N=1608/176109 (0.91%) 02:27:01 !lg * hu-- / won 02:27:02 790/137377 games for * (hu--): N=790/137377 (0.58%) 02:27:05 looks like the stats show Gr are easier 02:27:35 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:36 but as a relatively new player, I had a lot of trouble getting past the 2/3 part of a 3-5 rune game 02:27:38 with Gr 02:27:53 the AC is a bit ridiculous though :P 02:27:54 -!- tscho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:28:48 !lg * recent s=crace / won 02:28:52 8985/763536 games for * (recent): 1077/56139x Minotaur [1.92%], 869/49858x Gargoyle [1.74%], 586/78903x Demonspawn [0.74%], 522/29546x Hill Orc [1.77%], 499/38537x Vine Stalker [1.29%], 386/26858x Merfolk [1.44%], 386/14062x Deep Dwarf [2.74%], 362/31404x Formicid [1.15%], 321/40044x Troll [0.80%], 319/21177x Ogre [1.51%], 298/48090x Deep Elf [0.62%], 292/51949x Octopode [0.56%], 283/33680x Dracon... 02:29:00 !lg * recent s=crace / won o=% 02:29:03 8985/763537 games for * (recent): 1/21x Lava Orc [4.76%], 386/14062x Deep Dwarf [2.74%], 210/10341x Ghoul [2.03%], 1077/56139x Minotaur [1.92%], 201/10675x Halfling [1.88%], 4/219x Imp [1.83%], 522/29546x Hill Orc [1.77%], 869/49858x Gargoyle [1.74%], 217/12583x Centaur [1.72%], 319/21177x Ogre [1.51%], 274/18353x Naga [1.49%], 386/26858x Merfolk [1.44%], 499/38537x Vine Stalker [1.29%], 185/14499... 02:29:25 look, ghoul is better than centaur, minotaur and troll 02:29:46 or maybe using sequell stats to argue one race is stronger than another is ridiculous! 02:30:09 nah, it's the Scientific Way 02:30:33 !lg * recent !meleebug s=crace / won -graph:scatter 02:30:33 Scatter plot requires date or numeric grouping 02:30:39 !lg * recent !meleebug s=crace / won -graph 02:30:44 7429/695812 games for * (recent !meleebug): https://shalott.org/graphs/a58517ded95b493d3d6998791b250217e2933fb2.html 02:33:22 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:44 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:35:04 But still, not -demanding- for nerfs, just suggesting. In early game gargoyles benefit from poison immunity and rElec ( very dangerous from occasional brands / electric eels ) anyway, which makes up the low HP. They are weaker than minotaurs statistically, still. I just felt that having acid erode ( rot ) gargoyle hp would be a flavourful weakness that would come up more often and more evenly distributed than vulnerability to 02:35:26 * floatRand shuts up for now. 02:36:53 seems weird for a source of temporary damage to suddenly turn into a source of permanent damage for one race 02:37:23 from a flavour perspective I like the idea 02:37:33 what would you do in slime? 02:38:02 suck badly, even with rCorr 02:38:12 and think about the effect on oklobs 02:38:39 New branch created: pull/14 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/14 02:38:39 03chequers02 07[pull/14] * 0.17-a0-820-g7bc13f4: Remove the +9 bonus EV cap for Mf & Te. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7bc13f48543a 02:38:43 maybe it's better to reflavour rot as 'concrete spalling' 02:39:01 (when you're playing Gr) 02:42:01 -!- Raycaster has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:42:33 Basically I'd make the rotting work as following: if( !(rCorr && coinflip() ) you.rot( source, random2(4)); else if ( coinflip() ) you.rot( source, random2(2) ); 02:43:47 They probably have wands of healing/heal potions to undo the effects. 02:44:57 Probably make it check how much there is rot already like it does for corroded equipment so the early jellies don't rotdeath you. 02:45:02 is anyone planning to merge the myrmecia pull request? 02:45:09 I think it's a cool new unique 02:46:18 !tell pleasingfungus were you planning to merge the myrmecia unique? 02:46:18 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:49:20 Anyway, gotta abcond for food. 02:49:29 -!- floatRand has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:05:59 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:09:57 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:11:33 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:12:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:20:00 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:20:42 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:22:02 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:44 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:23:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:23:42 -!- ussdefiant_ is now known as ussdefiant 03:25:47 -!- zerkmund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:28:34 -!- floatRand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:02 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:10 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30:52 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:39:33 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:41:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:44:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:45:39 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:54:23 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:34 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58:59 -!- pikaro has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:59:48 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:03:08 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 04:05:23 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:05:39 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:05:48 -!- mumra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:12:07 -!- kober has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Iceweasel 24.7.0/20140723063708]] 04:16:59 -!- twb has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:33 Hey guys, I was looking through the git log and I got really confused, because I have log.mailmap=true, and it was actually *hiding* author's real names 04:17:40 -!- paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:17:48 So like git log --author=Adam said "no commits" 04:21:06 http://sprunge.us/ETMU is a .mailmap I use, whereas the one in crawl actively throws away everybody's 'real names' and replaces them with usernames 04:21:22 I dunno if that's intentional, but it confused me :-) 04:22:02 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:26:13 -!- bladedpenguin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:34:43 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:35:14 New branch created: pull/15 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/15 04:35:14 03chequers02 07[pull/15] * 0.17-a0-855-ga9d544d: Rework Powered By Death. 10(4 days ago, 7 files, 38+ 36-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a9d544d20d3a 04:37:04 -!- Siveran has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:37:41 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:43:02 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:45:58 -!- twb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:49:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:53:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:10:29 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:10:48 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:11:21 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:18:55 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:18:55 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:18:55 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:20:11 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 05:20:11 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 05:20:14 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 05:24:02 !tell chequers i don't understand what you mean by that, the requirements for activation are roughly the same as before, it just depends on xl instead of mutlevel 05:24:02 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let chequers know. 05:26:14 hi 05:26:14 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 05:26:26 just that the proc rate will be higher, dont you think? 05:27:10 i think it's equivalent to having level 1 of the mut at xl4, level 2 of the mut at xl16, and level 3 at xl24 05:28:27 probably when you actually get the upgrades varies pretty heavily, if you do get the later levels earlier then it'll trigger more but i think that's fine 05:33:32 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: ldf_] 05:33:55 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:33 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 05:45:47 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:50:24 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:51:41 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:46 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:53:28 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:42 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:53:56 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 06:41:16 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:48:16 -!- clouded_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48:59 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:50:08 !tell gammafunk i played a couple of characters through to lair with deterioration and it actually seemed maybe reasonable, by lair i was mostly recovering faster than the drain even with deterioration 2 06:50:08 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 06:52:55 ah ok 06:52:57 !tell gammafunk obviously this is with a tiny sample size and just a couple of ~melee chars~, but it didn't seem like ridiculous unrecoverable statloss was very likely to happen 06:52:57 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 06:53:48 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:54:22 hmm i guess deterioration does have the difference from draining that if you try and kill stuff to recover from it, you might just lose more and more stats as you do so 06:54:45 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:01:47 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:02:47 -!- Philonous has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:04:20 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:04:28 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 07:10:37 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:13:21 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:15:31 -!- clouded_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:16:04 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:00 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:30:11 -!- siepu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:31:18 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:32:56 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 07:35:55 -!- stone_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:38:13 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:44:24 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.23] 08:04:20 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:04:30 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:51 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:06 -!- Shane is now known as Svalin 08:11:45 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:12:07 Is square los really planned for 0.17? 08:14:33 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 08:17:47 -!- paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:05 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:25:23 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33:31 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:37:51 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:05 -!- antigone- is now known as bd- 08:48:54 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 08:55:36 -!- Sose has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:57:44 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:52 yes 09:05:25 cybersaint2k (L24 MiCK) (Vaults:5) 09:09:40 !crashlog 09:09:41 11187. cybersaint2k, XL24 MiCK, T:57387 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/cybersaint2k/crash-cybersaint2k-20150428-140519.txt 09:10:02 -!- syndicus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:11:36 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:17:07 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:41 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 09:20:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:25:55 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:19 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:17 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:28 -!- grisha5 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:41:55 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:31 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:19 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 09:48:51 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:49:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:51:22 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:52:15 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:35 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:57:37 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 09:57:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:58:50 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06:27 -!- siepu_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:07:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:15:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:17:23 -!- GiantOwl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:21:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:54:33 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:54:36 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:58:04 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:59:05 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:02:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 11:08:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:58 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:10:21 !vault temple_no_exploring_needed 11:10:21 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:10:21 Can't find temple_no_exploring_needed. 11:10:24 hm 11:10:32 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:11:21 complex 11:11:48 !source dat/des/branches/temple.des:3481 11:11:48 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/temple.des#l3481 11:12:45 mm I see very easily how that could be 11:12:46 squared 11:14:03 chequers: I had no plans for myrmecia; I just wanted to get the branch into some kind of reasonable state 11:14:24 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:16:52 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:17:18 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:40 %git b317e91 11:17:40 07Grudge02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.17-a0-714-gb317e91: Add Stasis spell 10(9 days ago, 36 files, 241+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b317e9156edf 11:17:57 I have a feeling that the legendary 'pa would object strenuously to the stasis field version getting merged (241+ 11-), but possibly a dimensional anchor/swiftness (!?) version could work 11:18:08 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:19:00 that looks like an awful lot of work for one silly unique 11:19:07 yeah 11:19:10 until we add 11:19:12 stasis moths.... 11:19:19 (: 11:19:23 36 changed files 11:19:24 !tell chequers i think your pbd patch resets your stacks of pbd to 0 whenever you roll a better duration than your current duration? 11:19:24 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let chequers know. 11:19:25 what the fuck 11:19:42 if you skim it, you can see why 11:20:01 it adds another silence/sanctuary/etc style 'area', which touches a ton of stuff 11:20:27 !tell chequers except: that almost never happens because the duration you roll (pbd_dur) isn't multiplied by BASELINE_DELAY, which you.duration[DUR_WHATEVER] is 11:20:28 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let chequers know. 11:20:28 ...I'm not convinced that 'stasisized' is a word... 11:20:40 neither is paralasys :b 11:20:52 heh 11:20:55 and yes i am not a fan of stasis aura :P 11:21:04 I didn't do any proofreading, just got it compiling and squashed it from 30 commits into 3 11:21:21 also removed the thing where he accidentally indented spl-data.h 11:22:11 anyway, I haven't played it; if some version of it that doesn't have stasis field plays differently enough from the enchantress fight, I'd be fine with it 11:22:16 ^ apologies for that sentence 11:22:26 also, whoever wants to merge it has to deal with the squarelos conflicts ;) 11:22:40 that also reminds me that spl-data.h has really weird indentation 11:23:02 how does squarelos interact with stuff like silence and sanctuary 11:23:02 where a random bunch of spells are indented one extra space after the first line? 11:23:04 or maybe all of them, even 11:23:06 did they essentially get buffed 11:23:27 I think they got nerfed 11:23:29 I forget 11:23:40 actually nvm I have no idea 11:23:59 MarvinPA: looks like it's all but the last few 11:24:29 huh i never noticed that 11:24:33 and irradiate, soh breath! but those are near the end too, yeah 11:25:48 a crawl mystery... 11:25:50 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 11:26:49 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:28:37 -!- Amy is now known as Guest42803 11:30:03 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:14 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:31:58 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35:59 crawl trivia: 11:36:05 %git 6178f7666a6fed 11:36:05 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-70-g6178f76: Disallow casting, reading, using rods while confused. 10(3 years, 3 months ago, 3 files, 31+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6178f7666a6f 11:36:53 they all used to do a random uselessness effect 11:37:08 yes! what if you really really need some butterflies 11:37:58 more crawl trivia: the code for rod random uselessness is still there 11:38:10 nice 11:39:29 wow grand avatar had two extra spaces of indentation instead of one, just to be even weirder 11:39:46 grand avatar IS weird 11:39:59 yes i suppose i should have remove more than just the spaces there 11:40:02 removed* 11:40:20 even more: miscasting a spell and getting random uselessness can't make the dust glow a weird colour (solution is to remove the scroll_slot param altogether) 11:40:34 kvaak: max radius for silence is 5 instead of 6, but it is square 11:40:57 so not a clear buff or nerf 11:41:03 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:28 mm, i guess 11:42:14 i guess it's a bit more convenient, i'm a fan of silence and always found it awkward to position things not-diagonally so i could make the most of it 11:42:53 elliptic: good char on squarelos 11:45:04 yes 11:46:46 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-855-g54fc4ff: Fix weird spacing in spl-data.h 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2173+ 2173-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54fc4ff0e601 11:47:56 -!- dplusplus has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:48:13 so do all "circles" get squared now? 11:48:41 like fire storm and LRD 11:49:03 or qaz smite 11:50:34 !commitby MarvinPA Add weird spacing fixes 11:50:34 03MarvinPA * 0.17-a0-999-gc528fca: Add weird spacing fixes 10(in the future, 42 files, 777+ 666-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c528fca 11:50:43 Kolbur: yeah 11:50:49 cool 11:51:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:53:38 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53:41 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:53:57 <|amethyst> FR: make the Vaults:5 and Tomb:2 ambushes square 11:56:51 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:08 <|amethyst> I guess they're both already more diamond than circle 11:58:52 fr: branch with taxicablos 11:59:02 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:02 and double diagonal movement speed 11:59:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:06 s/speed/delay 11:59:13 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:59:20 Ha, finally I am about to submit 0.16.1 to the FreeBSD ports tree. 11:59:36 <|amethyst> wheals: Please select your species. Please select your background. Please select your topology. 11:59:47 <|amethyst> s/topology/geometry/ 12:00:05 <|amethyst> wheals: (Hydra Slayer actually has that as an option) 12:00:16 nice 12:01:04 <|amethyst> 4-direction (taxicab---diagonal keys don't even work), 8-direction (chebyshev), or 6-direction (hex grid) 12:02:01 does it have ranges that those affect? 12:04:01 taxicab? 12:06:25 -!- Svalin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:06:54 <|amethyst> ZChris13: Manhattan metric, L_1 norm 12:07:08 hmm 12:07:15 <|amethyst> diamondlos 12:07:52 <|amethyst> wheals: I don't think so... I think the ranged weapons travel infinitely far 12:08:04 <|amethyst> wheals: though I guess they'd have to work somewhat differently in hex mode 12:08:16 <|amethyst> wheals: so it's really just about movement there 12:08:45 that does make things simpler 12:08:50 -!- Trevise has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:10:14 <|amethyst> oh, hey, can we rename 'adjacent'? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore_neighborhood 12:10:48 -!- ir2ivps5 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:11:42 rename orth_adjacent_iterator von_neumman_adjacent_iterator? 12:11:49 s/_adjacent// 12:11:54 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:17:40 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:20:28 hm 12:20:31 !source spl-cast.cc 12:20:31 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc 12:21:11 what can make a MiBe have only 9 MP at xl 24? he's not wearing an antimagic weapon or any -9mp items 12:21:31 %git :/a curve 12:21:33 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-432-g06743f9: throw a bit of a curve into the flat mp formula 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 10+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06743f9df4ec 12:23:05 any evo? 12:23:52 just noticed he's playing 0.16 12:24:06 oh i don't remember the formula then 12:24:29 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-855-g54fc4ff (34) 12:24:45 but for some reason the game is not updating his dump 12:24:53 even after he pressed # 12:24:59 <|amethyst> in 0.16, 9 appears to be correct for a L24 minotaur with no spc/evo/invo 12:25:10 ok thx 12:25:14 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:25:23 the dump thing is still weird 12:25:30 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:09 !help !mp 12:27:09 No help for !mp (you could add help with !learn add !help:!mp ) 12:27:14 !cmd !mp 12:27:14 No command !mp 12:27:18 !cmd !hp 12:27:19 Command: !hp => .echo $(if $* (let* (t (split " " $*) apt (nth 1 (split "=" (!apt $t[0] HP))) xl $t[1] f $t[2]) "HP apt: "$apt", XL: "$xl", Fighting: "$f" => MHP = "$(int (* (+ (int (* 5.5 $xl)) 8 (int (* $xl (/ $f 14.0))) (int (/ (+ 1 (* 3 $f)) 2.0))) (+ 1 (/ $apt 10.0))))) "Usage: !hp [species] [XL] [Fighting]") 12:27:27 need to get cracking 12:33:24 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:34:47 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:46:23 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:54 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:23 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:53:04 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:53:46 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:54:56 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:41 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:47 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:59:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:59:24 -!- ir2ivps5 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:02:49 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:05:10 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:05:33 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:10:28 -!- aarujn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:13:19 -!- veldast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:14:34 Kolbur: dump not updating could be a cache issue, forced reload (ctrl-f5) might help 13:14:38 -!- Medra is now known as Medar 13:16:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25:40 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotypebig.png 13:26:49 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:28:17 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:36:25 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:43:12 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:45:19 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:47:45 I'm gonna look at https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9623. That one sounds interesting. 13:49:04 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:20 Drinking a potion of experience and then doing the wrong thing apparently makes it so that most keyboard shortcuts don't work and time stops. 13:52:33 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:54:25 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:55:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:40 neat 13:58:48 tswett: realism 14:04:33 Right, you see, this is realistic because when you quaff it... you experience stuff. 14:04:50 Maybe this one only happens under Windows; I can't reproduce it here. 14:09:31 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:32 The build passed. (master - 54fc4ff #2468 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60408299 14:09:32 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:10:20 Whoops, there was a crash. Wonder if it's related to the actual bug here. 14:10:57 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:04 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:22:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:38 Uhhhhhhhhhhhh. I started a Wanderer, and got... a - 12 +0 shields (worn) 14:25:36 Should I make a backup save or is a dump enough 14:25:40 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:18 what's your SH 14:26:33 Only 7 sadly 14:26:35 Is "worn" actually the correct word there, or should it be "held" or something? 14:27:07 (you should probably makea backup if you can) 14:27:13 (and upload it to mantis) 14:27:18 tswett, technically it's strapped to your arm 14:28:24 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:28:39 wear still sounds a little odd, i agree 14:29:55 !tell gamafunk https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotypebig.png 14:29:55 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let gamafunk know. 14:30:17 er 14:30:22 oops 14:30:28 !tell gammafunk https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotypebig.png 14:30:28 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 14:31:12 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:33:21 -!- floatRand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:03 <|amethyst> err 14:36:13 <|amethyst> newgame_make_item(OBJ_ARMOUR, ARM_SHIELD, ARM_BUCKLER); 14:36:21 <|amethyst> that would definitely do it 14:36:31 I don't want to remove or drop any of these shields in case it breaks the silliness of wearing 12 shields 14:37:36 <|amethyst> magicpoints: %git df9fcda 14:37:38 <|amethyst> err 14:37:41 <|amethyst> %git df9fcda 14:37:41 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-735-gdf9fcda: Enhance and clean up the parameters for newgame_make_item. 10(8 days ago, 7 files, 294+ 660-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df9fcda76a76 14:37:46 <|amethyst> !blame3 wheals 14:37:46 wheeeeeaaaaals 14:38:00 -!- CcS_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:38:13 rip multishielding 14:38:41 I also have c - a potion of lignification {!q} marked as useless due to the starting blood level, though it wouldn't be useless after drinking some blood 14:38:56 <|amethyst> marked as useless how? 14:39:13 <|amethyst> if it's just darkgrey, that's intentional 14:39:26 <|amethyst> same as potions being darkgrey in lichform 14:39:36 Seemed odd but far less odd than the other thing 14:39:47 <|amethyst> if it turned them off autopickup, that would be wrong 14:40:03 <|amethyst> (autopickup uses "permanent" uselessness, but colouring uses "temporary" uselessness) 14:40:03 Autopickup for them is on 14:40:11 <|amethyst> then it's working as expected 14:40:21 <|amethyst> the colour is telling you "this won't do anything right now" 14:42:09 fr lignification turns undead players into dead trees 14:42:27 petrified trees? :v 14:42:34 Not undead trees? 14:42:40 rip 12shielder 14:42:43 that's just silly 14:42:45 you heard me 14:42:58 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43:09 Maybe each shield has one or more arms protruding from it. 14:43:21 And so the shields are all just strapped together into a mega-shield. 14:43:23 Mmm it happened again with a MiWn this time 14:43:31 you just have them all glued together to make one super huge shield 14:43:39 <|amethyst> yes, it won't give you a single shield 14:43:50 matroyska shield 14:44:02 <|amethyst> unless you're a troll or an ogre, in which case it depends on whether it was intended as "decent" or "good" equipment 14:44:13 *matryoshka 14:44:28 magicpoints: yeah amethyst found the bug already, you'll always get a bunch of shields 14:45:16 okawaru is having a sale on shields 14:45:23 buy 1 get 11 free 14:45:56 Does it apply to non-Wn 14:46:06 <|amethyst> no, only Wn 14:47:13 what if they are 12 tiny shields glued together to constitute a regular sized shield? 14:48:21 fr: shields stack 14:48:35 as ammo. for trolls and giants. 14:48:46 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:49:02 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rygar 14:49:36 finally, I can roleplay as captain america 14:50:04 You throw the shield. The shield ricochets off the wall! The shield hits the goblin! 14:50:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:50:38 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:39 +2 small shield of returning 14:51:51 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:23 12 shield 14:52:38 !log magicpoints vpwn 14:52:39 1. magicpoints, XL1 VpWn, T:659: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/magicpoints/morgue-magicpoints-20150428-194231.txt 14:53:05 that is incredible 14:53:07 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:24 -!- frederik__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:54:05 -!- frederik__ has quit [Client Quit] 14:54:24 a good bug 14:54:56 now to see if somebody ascends wearing a stack of shields 14:54:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 14:55:19 did you try removing and re-wearing them? it probably works 14:55:41 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:52 Unfortunately it was also an incredibly bad Wn 14:56:04 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:57:13 got the -rp poison debuff, and two sources of rpois, is it intended that i have not rpois as a result ? 14:57:25 yes 14:57:54 stacking rpois is supposed to have no benefit at all, just like getting to rF++++ doesn't help against cerebov's sword 14:58:19 its to prevent wanting to carry two sources of rpois when you otherwise never would want two sources of rpois 14:58:26 ok, good to know :) 14:58:31 thanks 14:59:16 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:59:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-856-g9d64ff4: Don't give wanderers stacks of 12 shields (magicpoints) 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9d64ff4b6ccf 14:59:50 -!- Akitten_Homura is now known as UncertainKitten 15:00:15 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:04:47 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 15:04:47 <|amethyst> taking off and removing is fine and preserves the stack 15:04:48 perhaps using tremors could warn that you will harm friendlies, since it doesnt do that currently 15:05:12 <|amethyst> however, dropping the stack splits it 15:05:39 <|amethyst> weirder, if you drop the stack while it's worn, it will unequip but then only drop one of the shields 15:06:01 <|amethyst> oh 15:06:04 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 15:06:06 <|amethyst> dropping doesn't split the stack 15:06:13 <|amethyst> hm 15:06:15 <|amethyst> no, it does 15:06:19 <|amethyst> the messaging is just weird 15:06:26 <|amethyst> Items here: [[[[[[[[[[ 15:06:26 <|amethyst> _a +0 shield x10 15:06:33 <|amethyst> not weird, but it confused me for a second 15:06:38 <|amethyst> that is 10 separate stacks 15:06:44 |amethyst: do you want a PR to add an ASSERT(is_stackable_item(item)) before creating a stack in newgame_make_item? 15:10:02 <|amethyst> amalloy: can't check that before creating the stack, only after 15:10:10 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:10:11 <|amethyst> but that's reasonable... no need for a PR though 15:11:24 well, you can check in the middle, after setting the types but before setting the quantity, since is_stackable_item doesn't look at quantity. but i suppose after is fine too, and looks less scary because stuff is obviously all initialized 15:11:41 <|amethyst> it does look at quantity 15:11:44 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:11:48 <|amethyst> defined() checks for quantity > 0 15:12:06 ah 15:15:17 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:15:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-857-g2422707: Make Gozag gold that would fall into lava/water land in the player's pockets instead 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2422707ece32 15:16:22 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: kill monsters over lava to save a turn :P 15:16:40 it does sort of introduce the same problem in reverse, yes :P 15:16:58 but to a much lesser extent hopefully! 15:17:02 <|amethyst> yeah 15:17:16 <|amethyst> since the cost is 2 turns or some gold, rather than some gold 15:18:04 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:14 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-858-g7e4731f: Assert if we do make a bad stack in newgame (amalloy) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7e4731fa07ec 15:20:30 "make debug" is for doing a build with debug symbols in it, right? 15:22:49 tswett: it also turns on a bunch of debug printouts in the game, and starts you in wizmode 15:24:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:49 <|amethyst> tswett: if you just want debug symbols, make debug-lite 15:30:12 |amethyst: ah, thanks. 15:30:15 |amethyst: also thanks. 15:30:30 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:32:17 Er. 15:32:20 amalloy: also thanks. 15:32:41 |amethyst: I hereby retract my second thanks. 15:32:59 <|amethyst> :) 15:33:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:00 Oh crisp, I forgot to say TILES=y. 15:36:35 I don't suppose anyone knows a nice and easy way to cache builds so that if I want to go back and forth between two different versions I don't have to spend ten minutes each way? 15:36:49 <|amethyst> ??ccache 15:36:49 ccache ~ cache[1/1]: There are only two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors. 15:36:54 <|amethyst> err 15:37:00 <|amethyst> 'ccache' is the program you want 15:38:55 it operates under the hood. iirc it's always been part of a package i needed or had installed anyway before i could build anything 15:39:36 <|amethyst> but e.g. on Debian just installing ccache is not enough 15:39:44 <|amethyst> you also need to mess with your PATH 15:40:05 <|amethyst> (or make symlinks into your ~/bin) 15:40:58 -!- enygmata has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:41:40 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:41:49 oh? oh, i have ~/bin in my PATH anyway 15:44:41 Cache invalidation is easy if your programming language is built around the concept of cache invalidation. 15:46:44 <|amethyst> not sure how you'd build a programming language around the concept of cache invalidation 15:48:17 |amethyst: just declare all caches permanently invalid, by fiat 15:48:22 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52:43 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:52 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:17 I created a programming language that's a *little* bit like that. 16:00:13 There's only one primitive data type, the "event". It's like a boolean variable, except once it changes from "false" (unfired) to "true" (fired), it can never change back. 16:00:36 There's no flow control. The way execution works is that events just spontaneously fire in an unspecified order. 16:01:20 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:02:17 But you can say that one event can't fire unless another event also fires (either at the same time or in the past), or that an event can't fire if another event fires (again, at the same time or in the past). 16:02:31 It's not a USEFUL programming language. 16:02:38 But it's kind of interesting. 16:03:59 <|amethyst> and with the "can't fire" bit it's probably Turing-complete 16:04:13 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:15 <|amethyst> hm 16:10:02 <|amethyst> actually, since things can't unfire, probably just Σ_p^2 complete 16:10:41 <|amethyst> since it seems that you could implement it using default logic or stable model semantics 16:11:01 <|amethyst> err, Σ_2^p 16:12:33 frp crawl style? 16:15:24 -!- clouded_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:46 <|amethyst> someone should make Crawl into a pencil-and-paper RPG 16:15:52 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:31 -!- Guest42803 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:17:18 -!- Amy is now known as Guest21705 16:19:07 i wonder if crawl is turing complete 16:19:15 maybe back when monsters picked up items 16:20:23 <|amethyst> it has a clua console, so... 16:20:38 <|amethyst> I guess that's cheating :) 16:20:45 hah 16:21:37 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:23:02 -!- mong has quit [Client Quit] 16:29:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:31 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:30:36 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:37:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:10 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 16:46:55 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:48:00 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:25 -!- Svalin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:49:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:16 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:59:44 -!- Sharkman1231 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:46 ontoclasm: logo is really cool 16:59:58 thanks 17:00:05 how do you smooth out the edges like that 17:00:17 by hand xD 17:00:20 ouch 17:00:31 I assume you do this like you do for tiles, by pixel with it zoomed in 17:00:33 yeah 17:00:39 this thing where EV flickers whenever you take stairs is really annoying IMO 17:00:40 -!- fandersen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:00:49 it's not that much of a problem once you get used to it 17:00:53 like does it really need to happen even when there's no -more- or anything 17:01:30 ontoclasm: I guess you've made only 11 letters, and an entire font would be a ton more work 17:01:31 updating it when we aren't asking for player input seems bad at least 17:01:39 yeah and there's no upper case at all 17:01:44 not to mention numbers 17:01:56 gammafunk: not really; many letter you can put together with bits of others 17:01:59 <|amethyst> elliptic: hm, what about during paralysis? 17:02:00 *s 17:02:12 <|amethyst> I guess that doesn't last long enough for it to be worth it 17:02:18 upper case would be trickier but it could just be all one case 17:02:27 <|amethyst> %git 95725d1f 17:02:27 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-472-g95725d1: Remove redundant evasion functions (#9610). 10(3 weeks ago, 18 files, 50+ 59-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95725d1f6d4c 17:02:31 |amethyst: again, I think it is fine to update it if the player gets a -more- from messages 17:03:07 |amethyst: but if everything is happening at once then I don't see the point 17:03:19 we are talking a fraction-of-a-second flicker 17:03:37 or several such flickers in a row when using interlevel travel 17:03:40 the main problem would be converting it into a font, since i dunno how to do that 17:04:33 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:34 The build was broken. (master - 9d64ff4 #2469 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60435071 17:04:34 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:04:47 <|amethyst> hm 17:05:11 <|amethyst> can we maybe shorten our tests so that they don't time out every now and again? 17:05:38 how long do the tests take cumulitively? 17:06:02 <|amethyst> depends on speed of the machine etc 17:06:15 <|amethyst> these two that failed were 14 min 25 sec and 16 min 31 sec total 17:06:23 <|amethyst> but that includes compile time 17:06:28 -!- Philonous has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:06:45 <|amethyst> the tests run with a 9:55 timeout 17:07:07 <|amethyst> at least I think that's what's causing it 17:07:26 <|amethyst> it's a sigterm, and when there is a crash dump it's usually inside of lua 17:08:08 MarvinPA: yeah, sounds good if you found the deterioration triggering to be reasonable. Those chances seemed high to me, but I probably had in mind XXX drain, which has a 25% chance iirc, yet that's every time you cast 17:08:16 <|amethyst> elliptic: hm, I'm not sure what the solution is 17:08:36 <|amethyst> elliptic: not calling redraw_screen() when there's no input would have several bad side effects 17:08:52 <|amethyst> elliptic: I guess we could have redraw_screen not call print_stats unless crawl is waiting for input 17:09:53 |amethyst: yeah, I don't know what the best fix is 17:09:57 <|amethyst> elliptic: hm, maybe a first step would be to remove the print_stats from _finish_delay 17:10:07 I guess melee-centric chars take 10% damage fairly frequently and this mutation hurts them more, but mutations can just vary by what type of char is more affected 17:10:16 <|amethyst> elliptic: I think that would mean the stat area doesn't update in the middle of macros either 17:10:47 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:11:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:12:34 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:55 <|amethyst> elliptic: but e.g. if someone is doing non-online interlevel travel (with the delay not -1) we probably would want things like "-cTele" to light up when appropriate 17:12:56 haha, I'd never thought about jiyva chars in the moon base 17:13:00 all the G turn neutral 17:13:11 <|amethyst> elliptic: I guess this particular case is weird because it's so short-lived 17:14:52 yes, it is really a problem specific to this case I guess 17:15:01 could just remove the 5 EV penalty :P 17:15:15 <|amethyst> elliptic: maybe just removing the you.redraw_evasion = true; in start_delay and _pop_delay would do it 17:17:01 <|amethyst> elliptic: hm... I guess the problem then is that if you *do* get a -more- in the middle of the delay, you won't see the lowered EV 17:17:37 <|amethyst> at least I don't think -more- turns on redraw_evasion 17:18:06 -!- paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:34 johnstein: I'm going to make a google app for importing the objstat files and automatically creating a single google sheet with the header and rowname columns/rows frozen 17:18:35 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 17:18:39 -!- paroneayea has quit [Changing host] 17:19:04 it'll probably just be a simple ui at first but maybe we can see about how to link it up to autmoate creating these 17:19:09 spuds convenient 17:19:10 *automate 17:19:16 sounds 17:19:21 spuds! 17:20:49 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:20:55 I've settled on creating 4 sheets: 3-rune branches with swamp+snake, 3-rune branches with shoals+spider, extended branches with swamp+snake and without Abyss,Pan,Zig, and one for Abyss,Pan,Zig 17:21:11 seemed the most sane way to cover what would be useful for the summaries without trying to run too many jobs 17:26:36 gammafunk: let's make it easier and remove item generation from abyss 17:26:53 hrm 17:26:58 why though? 17:27:39 <|amethyst> would (along with the Pan changes that I imagine are happening sooner or later) make Zigs the only source of infinite items 17:28:11 <|amethyst> I think it's good to have an escape hatch for people who want to grind, though 17:28:14 I'm more concerned with how the abyss is supposed to function 17:28:45 one issue: we have AK in the abyss for a reason, and items are an incentive for them to risk death 17:29:02 it's fair to argue that this is scummy and unfun, but it's pretty much the same with xp 17:29:04 <|amethyst> but they're crappy items even still aren't they? 17:29:15 <|amethyst> I guess they can take the stairs now 17:29:23 well crappy items don't really exist for a xl1 char 17:29:29 yeah that too 17:29:59 could have that special-cased for AK, but I don't know that we'd want to do that either 17:30:21 in my mind it's kind of cool how if you have this horrible thing happen to you (banishment) you might get some big reward from it 17:30:28 AK starts in the abyss because it's cute 17:30:32 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:30:43 items generate in the abyss because that's also cute 17:30:48 so what problem are we trying to solve 17:31:03 infinite areas shouldn't have items 17:31:30 I think my question still stands 17:31:43 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:31:51 is it infinite items for extended chars is the problem, I just see that as a very secondary concern 17:32:13 since extended chars are just doing things above and beyond by definition 17:32:40 maybe we want to move away from banishment being a thing? 17:32:59 I dunno it just feels like the kind of change that should basically come if we rethink what the abyss is for (which is a perfectly valid think to rethink) 17:33:32 good ol' crawl players http://i.imgur.com/9llThBV.png 17:34:02 chimeras: a Good Idea 17:36:32 <|amethyst> why limit items in that way but not XP? 17:36:57 <|amethyst> I guess because XP is still theoretically finite, since you can't go higher than 27 in all skills 17:37:25 <|amethyst> also, what about ziggurats? 17:37:48 <|amethyst> without the items they're purely for bragging 17:37:51 currently I often feel like getting banished makes my character stronger because I find some useful items while looking for an exit 17:37:59 I don't know whether this is a good thing or not 17:38:36 -!- Sose has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:38:48 yeah, I kind of like the "oh an item, do I risk getting it" thing if my characters is banished at a low enough xl for me to be worried 17:39:37 bh: and it wouldn't mean no items in the abyss wrt objstat unless you make all enemies have no equipment 17:39:59 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:40:09 fr: all abyss enemies are summons 17:41:05 do you get any xp for killing a monster you banished? or for banishing it again, to a deeper floor? 17:41:43 you get half xp, yeah 17:41:54 not sure you can banish enemies a second time 17:42:21 <|amethyst> you don't get XP for a second banishment 17:42:29 we should really get an abyss unique 17:43:30 <|amethyst> hm 17:43:33 <|amethyst> actually 17:43:50 <|amethyst> you get full XP if you kill it in the abyss 17:43:54 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:43:55 <|amethyst> // Note: we do not set MF_GOT_HALF_XP, the monster is usually not 17:43:55 <|amethyst> // distinguishable from others of the same kind in the Abyss. 17:44:59 <|amethyst> and that also means you get half XP each time you banish it 17:45:04 should abyss 'natives' be immune to banishment when they're in the abyss? 17:45:17 <|amethyst> it's pacification that sets the half-XP flag 17:45:52 I don't see the point in worrying about some monsters giving full xp in abyss as long as you can scum as much xp there as you want 17:46:22 secret tech: find a monster that's worth a lot of xp but not difficult to kill. banish it five times and then kill it for reals. free xp! 17:46:30 should be super easy to arrange 17:46:48 amalloy: yes, clearly much easier than just tabbing through abyss for five minutes 17:47:12 <|amethyst> amalloy: or banish it, let it escape with you, and repeat infinitely 17:47:19 <|amethyst> but also what elliptic said 17:50:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:04 -!- squimmy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:51:33 hrm, it's intentionally that some baileys can't be entered unless you have flight? 17:51:45 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:51:47 or disint + blink scroll I guess 17:52:18 -!- Kolbur has left ##crawl-dev 17:53:03 we could make the abyss spawn a mix of durable summons and real creatures 17:53:22 as you kill dudes, the fraction moves towards summons 17:56:16 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:42 gammafunk: some of them spawn you pots of flight 17:57:55 ontoclasm: I mean the portal entrance 17:57:58 oh 17:58:00 not the entry when you go through the portal 17:58:14 yeah, there's also a bazaar entrance that's like that 17:58:26 idk if it's a good thing but there you are 18:03:20 ??bailey 18:03:20 bailey[1/3]: A forbidden dungeon of the mad chevalier. A timed portal vault. Has a monster theme (gnolls, orcs, or elves) and a weapon theme (axes, polearms, or crossbows). Loot is anywhere between "some crappy axes" and "multiple scrolls of acquirement." 18:03:55 ??portal vault 18:03:55 portal vault[1/3]: A vault on its own separate map/maps, entered through a portal (same symbol as e.g. the Hell entrance). Portal vaults include labyrinths, bazaars, treasure troves, ziggurats, sewers, ossuaries, baileys, ice caves, volcanoes, and wizlabs. Each vault type has its own entry in the learndb; see it for details. 18:04:49 what are the portals from easy to hard? sewer, oussary, bailey, labs, volcano, cave, wizlab? 18:05:25 -!- syndicus_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:06:47 !lm * br.enter=sewer|ossuary|bailey|lab|volcano|icecv|wizlab s=br / lg:br=$noun 18:07:02 44395/618826 milestones for * (br.enter=sewer|ossuary|bailey|lab|volcano|icecv|wizlab): 12003/122998x Sewer [9.76%], 9253/81732x Ossuary [11.32%], 8807/68901x IceCv [12.78%], 7653/52657x Bailey [14.53%], 3601/66036x Lab [5.45%], 2573/43197x Volcano [5.96%], 450/14046x WizLab [3.20%], 46/127988x D [0.04%], 9/21223x Lair [0.04%], 0/3008x Elf [0.00%], 0/450x Swamp [0.00%], 0/1250x Crypt [0.00%], 0/43... 18:07:04 !lm * recent br.enter=sewer|ossuary|bailey|lab|volcano|icecv|wizlab s=br / lg:br=$noun o=% 18:07:13 15414/164555 milestones for * (recent br.enter=sewer|ossuary|bailey|lab|volcano|icecv|wizlab): 2420/17450x Bailey [13.87%], 3615/29713x IceCv [12.17%], 3397/32069x Ossuary [10.59%], 3538/40059x Sewer [8.83%], 1315/22550x Lab [5.83%], 965/16900x Volcano [5.71%], 164/5814x WizLab [2.82%] 18:07:16 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:07:22 !portalsuccess * 18:07:29 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:55 Portal success rate for *. icecv: N=73218/84182 (86.98%), volcano: N=46004/48898 (94.08%), lab: N=83606/88494 (94.48%), bailey: N=65991/77726 (84.90%), sewer: N=160298/180144 (88.98%), bazaar: N=46548/46580 (99.93%), ossuary: N=98108/110984 (88.40%), wizlab: N=18900/19505 (96.90%), trove: N=19143/19153 (99.95%) 18:08:19 want recent on that probably 18:08:33 well, i was thinking that too, but i just added recent in PM and it's still really slow 18:08:43 no I don't mean because of speed 18:08:54 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:09:06 just so we're not talking about ancient crawl etc 18:09:49 !lg * trove s=ckiller 18:09:49 No keyword 'trove' 18:09:54 !lg * place=trove s=ckiller 18:09:55 10 games for * (place=trove): 5x quitting, 2x starvation, a chaos spawn, a titan, water 18:10:29 !log * place=trove killer=water 18:10:30 No games for * (place=trove killer=water). 18:10:34 !log * place=trove ckiller=water 18:10:35 1. Raven, XL24 HuCr, T:103336: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Raven/morgue-Raven-20100604-030817.txt 18:10:41 someone died in bazaar 18:10:55 !lg * place=bazaar 18:10:56 28. runewalsh the Frost Mage (L11 OpIE of Vehumet), quit the game in Bazaar (bazaar_kb_twisted_cavern) on 2015-01-07 13:10:13, with 12822 points after 10375 turns and 0:37:29. 18:11:01 !lg * place=bazaar !boring 18:11:02 23. ololoev the Basher (L13 KoAr of Okawaru), mangled by Nulas the merfolk (a +8 trident of flaming) (created by the player character) in Bazaar (bazaar_minmay_generic_island) on 2014-11-13 09:10:51, with 19538 points after 26345 turns and 1:32:38. 18:11:14 that's just sloppy 18:11:14 !log * place=trove recent s=ckiller !boring 18:11:15 2 games for * (place=trove recent !boring): starvation, a chaos spawn 18:11:36 bazaars used to have shop mimics that could kill you sometimes 18:11:52 if for some reason a single mimic could kill you 18:12:06 !log * place=trove recent ckiller=starvation 18:12:07 1. jacquesderrida, XL22 DsGl, T:41451: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/jacquesderrida/morgue-jacquesderrida-20141108-012229.txt 18:12:15 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:13 -!- MrGroat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:19:15 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 18:20:37 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:04 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:26:46 -!- ontoclasm has left ##crawl-dev 18:29:56 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:30:18 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:19 The build was broken. (master - 2422707 #2470 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60437519 18:30:19 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:33:50 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:34:14 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2-dev] 18:38:22 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:44:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-747-g6f9c090: Make stat drain recover with XP gain instead of over time 10(9 weeks ago, 5 files, 71+ 44-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6f9c0902ddd3 18:44:33 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-748-gdcd3f0e: Remove an errant semicolon and reformat (debo) 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dcd3f0e89801 18:44:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-749-g27d2a07: Save compat for stat loss recovering with XP 10(7 days ago, 2 files, 15+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27d2a07b07cd 18:44:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-750-gea7ae5b: Remove potions of restore abilities 10(7 days ago, 21 files, 56+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea7ae5b31619 18:44:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-751-g3d6c10c: Fix a warning 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3d6c10c95f08 18:44:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-752-g8818f73: Make Deterioration apply stat drain upon taking damage 10(2 days ago, 5 files, 28+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8818f7387c10 18:44:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-865-gbf6cc4d: Merge branch 'stat_drain' 10(30 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bf6cc4d4ed96 18:44:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-866-gd27bf8b: Clean up spacing in mutation-data.h 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 157+ 151-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d27bf8bc8948 18:45:15 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 18:45:39 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:42 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50:22 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:51:42 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:15 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:08:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08:40 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:54 Document random names better 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9688 by godzilla 19:12:49 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:12:49 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:34 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:04 somehow i'm having trouble setting up squarelos locally, what's the git command to get a branch off master 19:17:40 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:17:57 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:18:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:19:51 git checkout [branchname] 19:20:18 oh no you want a local tracking branch probably 19:20:25 nicolae-: `git fetch && git checkout origin/squarelos`? 19:20:41 ebering: on modern versions of git, git checkout branchname actually does create a local tracking branch 19:20:49 black magic 19:21:16 technically it's squarelos-0.17 these days, tmyk 19:21:36 or so i thought, anyway; i'm on 2.3.5 and it doesn't seem to be working. i blame apple, though; i've only ever done it before on linux, so anything that doesn't work is apple's fault now 19:22:45 ah, this seems to be working 19:23:00 i dunno what happened earlier, i though i tried git checkout origin/squarelos-0.17 19:23:53 nicolae-: hit up-arrow in your terminal until you find whatever stupid you actually did when you thought you were doing that checkout. i usually feel dumb when i do that 19:24:18 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:26 -!- onrul has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:24:41 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 19:24:58 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 19:25:22 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:26:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-867-g293fcba: Don't place shafts in illegal levels (IronicDongz) 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/293fcba0d853 19:26:24 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:28:29 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:19 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:57 !tell ontoclasm the logo is really cool!!! 19:31:57 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 19:32:22 dang, the diff in 9688... 19:32:24 what logo 19:32:27 submodules, man. Submodules. 19:32:40 nicolae-: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotypebig.png 19:33:11 it's fancy 19:33:15 too fancy. i'm scared of change. 19:33:19 -!- clouded_ has quit [Quit: ]] 19:33:24 it's so smooth... 19:33:26 I just want to drink it all down. 19:34:42 hm. I strongly suspect that 9688 breaks local tinyterm, or at least makes it ugly. let's see. 19:35:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 19:36:10 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:34 -!- Xeiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:37:36 hm, doesn't quite break it. close, though 19:39:44 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:39:44 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 19:41:09 could go with "(Leave blank for a random name.)" but I'm still not fond of doubling the length of the prompt for a silly joke. leaning toward either keeping it an easter egg, finding some way to add an asterixed footnote, or removing the feature. 19:41:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 19:41:55 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:43:27 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:45:40 can we delete the squarelos branch? it's five years old and all it does is cause confusion and break tab completion 19:46:10 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:50:47 hrm 19:51:01 !source shopping.cc:1523 19:51:01 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc#l1523 19:51:37 Inaccurate memorization failure messages for Ru-sacrificed spell schools. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9689 by johnnyzero 19:54:07 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:45 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:00:47 amalloy: I don't see why not 20:01:21 !tell ontoclasm I want it on a t-shirt. 20:01:22 bh: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 20:01:52 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:03:38 -!- copt has quit [] 20:07:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:54 The build has errored. (master - d27bf8b #2472 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60462593 20:07:54 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:09:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:11 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:12:16 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:12:27 "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" 20:12:30 -!- AlphaQ_ is now known as AlphaQ 20:12:35 E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes 20:12:40 maybe we should use that? 20:13:36 doy: https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/jobs/60462608 not sure, but maybe we could add --force-yes to the package installs for travis? 20:14:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:40 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:22:48 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:31:54 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:39:35 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:40:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-868-g8ca72fa: Remove a special case for demonspawn kill piety 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ca72fa183cb 20:44:40 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:56:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:06 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:45 -!- coyo7e has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:58:50 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:18 johnny0: Lasty: i updated the title of #9689 to match the latest note 21:02:42 squarenado, i love it 21:06:42 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:07 !tell magicpoints thanks for catching that! 21:07:07 wheals: OK, I'll let magicpoints know. 21:07:36 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:08:49 wheals: whoops, i took too much time updating my note -- thanks, and sorry for the bogus description 21:09:10 can reporters change the title themselves? i'm not sure 21:10:53 i don't think so 21:12:16 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13:22 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:13:41 haha, i see what you mean now 21:13:52 i must be a future psychic 21:14:08 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:14:58 gammafunk: try it! 21:15:25 will travis terminate me if I do 21:16:33 wheals: thanks 21:18:25 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:21:54 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:22:49 -!- toenail has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:23:53 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:32 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:26:18 03Lasty02 07* 0.17-a0-869-g1d60061: Unreverse new Ru ability tiles and shrink them a bit (nicolae-) 10(55 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d60061d872e 21:26:18 03Lasty02 07* 0.17-a0-870-gcb215c1: Improve the melee rot attack message (rchandra) 10(50 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb215c1d6115 21:26:59 good make_stringf usage 21:27:56 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:30:03 maybe to fix that XXX it could be make_stringf("%s flesh rots away!", apostrophise(defender_name(false)).c_str()) 21:31:06 -!- Sharkman1231 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:40 -!- schisto is now known as schistosoma 21:34:11 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:36:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:57 The build passed. (master - 8ca72fa #2474 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60471700 21:36:57 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:36:58 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:37:33 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:42:27 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:33 -!- vale__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:44:12 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:46 %git 293fcba0d8536 21:44:46 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-867-g293fcba: Don't place shafts in illegal levels (IronicDongz) 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/293fcba0d853 21:44:54 Does anybody know what caused ^ issue? 21:45:33 there aren't supposed to be shafts on branch:-2 21:45:39 -!- Sovek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46:14 Hmm. 21:58:17 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:18 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:58:19 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 21:58:55 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 22:02:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:03:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:16 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:20 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:13:59 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:14:37 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:14:37 -!- reaverb1 has quit [Client Quit] 22:16:10 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:17:02 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:17:36 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:18:01 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:18:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:25:48 -!- DeceasedCrab has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 22:29:39 -!- dplusplus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:55 -!- robbje has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:31:15 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:33:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:46:23 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 22:46:23 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 22:46:23 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! 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