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00:18:06 <chequers> on orc reform, i'll say I always enjoy tabbing my way through orc, so please keep orc:1 at least full of meatsacks
00:18:34 <chequers> maybe you could remove orc:2 & 3 though
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02:15:09 <amalloy> the order of stuff in the shopping list isn't customizable anywhere, right? it looks like _compare_shopping_things is what's in charge of that, and it's hard-coded to cost
02:15:52 <amalloy> i ask because i would often love to have my shopping list sorted by nearness-to-me, like when i ctrl-f, so that i can go buy all the stuff on it in a reasonable order
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02:24:15 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-769-g0b87ae3 (34)
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02:45:04 <TZer0> !messages
02:45:04 <Sequell> No messages for TZer0.
02:45:24 <TZer0> I still need suggestions for EU host providers.
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03:52:02 <minmay> ??drain life
03:52:02 <Sequell> drain life[1/2]: A Yredelemnul 4* ability; drains 1+1d7+1d(Invocations) HP from all non-drain-resistant hostiles in your LOS and heals you for the lesser of (Invocations*2) and half the damage dealt (per monster). Costs 6 MP, 200 nutrition, and 2 piety.
03:52:21 <minmay> am I missing something here or does that invocations*2 check do absolutely nothing unless your skill is really, really low
03:55:38 <minmay> nevermind the learndb is just lying with the "per monster" part
04:07:26 <chequers> TZer0: linode/digitalocean
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04:25:38 <TZer0> chequers: hrm, storage is a problem.
04:28:19 <chequers> aws
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04:42:48 <amalloy> fr make shock serpents' aura go off after being moved by force lance, rather than before? it seems like it'd be a cool mechanic to be able to push them out of range
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09:29:14 <wheals> !tell pleasingfungus yeah obviously it was strongly inspired by necromutation, though i felt its drawback was different enough for it not to be "lich hat"
09:29:14 <Sequell> wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know.
09:31:10 <kvaak> i don't think you can really compare a hat to necromutation
09:31:14 <kvaak> wearing a hat doesn't require 20 necro/tmut
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10:43:17 <Lasty_> wheals: I'm not a big fan of crown of eternal torment, but I think it only works as a concept to the degree that imposes a really big penalty to hp.
10:43:29 <Lasty_> If it's a "good" item, that's a problem in my book
10:43:54 <Lasty_> oh, he's gone
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10:45:22 <dpeg> can you use torment while wearing the crown?
10:45:36 <Grunt> ??devteam[27
10:45:37 <Sequell> devteam[27/27]: "To torment others, one must first know what torment means."
10:46:09 <kvaak> yes
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12:21:49 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-769-g0b87ae3 (34)
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12:30:33 <Cheibriados> Confusion does not inhibit 'C'lose and 'O'pen (door) commands 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9671 by golthoon
12:31:40 <kvaak> ...I didn't even know O was a thing
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12:41:59 <gammafunk> oh good, another golthoon bug report
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13:46:54 <Cheibriados> Primal wave knockback caused to take wrong staris 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9672 by Zooty
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14:03:32 <G-Flex> gammafunk: I'm looking through his bug reports now
14:03:34 <G-Flex> I like this one: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8510
14:05:17 <kvaak> jesus fuck the note section gave me cancer
14:06:02 <G-Flex> yeah I liked it until I read the notes
14:06:13 <kvaak> and that's while i'm writing an open letter of "fuck you" to the finnish social insurance institution
14:06:14 <G-Flex> and I thought I was insufferable
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14:08:16 <G-Flex> haha the notes on this one https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8541
14:08:50 <CanOfWorms> man, fireflies still existed a year ago?
14:08:58 <G-Flex> what do spriggans ride now?
14:09:17 <CanOfWorms> wasps
14:09:19 <kvaak> wasps
14:09:29 <CanOfWorms> which is incidentally why riders need a new tile
14:09:37 <kvaak> they also need a new mount
14:09:46 <kvaak> considering spriggans are bigger than their mounts
14:09:57 <CanOfWorms> these are no ordinary wasps...
14:11:05 <amalloy> i don't understand https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9672 - what confirmation prompt is the submitter talking about, when using a portal?
14:11:38 <Cheibriados> unknown monster: "wasp"

14:11:38 <G-Flex> %??wasp
14:11:48 <kvaak> !lm zooty shoals
14:11:48 <Sequell> 514. [2015-04-22 21:54:29] Zooty the Spry (L19 TeCK of Xom) found a barnacled rune of Zot on turn 45311. (Shoals:5)
14:11:50 <Cheibriados> yellow wasp (08y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 13-30 | AC/EV: 5/14 | Dam: 1304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 126 | Sz: tiny | Int: insect.

14:11:50 <G-Flex> %??yellow wasp
14:11:50 <kvaak> !lm zooty shoals -2
14:11:51 <Sequell> 513/514. [2015-04-22 21:47:36] Zooty the Spry (L19 TeCK of Xom) killed Ilsuiw on turn 44149. (Shoals:5)
14:11:52 <kvaak> !lm zooty shoals -3
14:11:53 <Sequell> 512/514. [2015-04-22 21:47:21] Zooty the Spry (L19 TeCK of Xom) reached level 5 of the Shoals on turn 44135. (Shoals:5)
14:12:07 <Cheibriados> spriggan (15i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 18-30 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 217 | Sz: little | Int: high.

14:12:07 <G-Flex> %??spriggan
14:12:20 <G-Flex> yeah, spriggans are riding mounts smaller than them
14:12:26 <G-Flex> which is hilarious, and deserves fanart, but is also inappropriate
14:12:34 <CanOfWorms> maybe it should be like
14:12:35 <CanOfWorms> 4 wasps
14:12:47 <CanOfWorms> or just reflavor them are large wasps
14:12:51 <G-Flex> it's not actually riding it, the wasp is just taped to the front of the spriggan's torso
14:12:56 <CanOfWorms> the large wasp throws a large rock at you!
14:13:12 <amalloy> CanOfWorms: like a wasp-based quadcopter with a spriggan in the cockpit? i approve
14:13:32 <G-Flex> haha
14:13:32 <CanOfWorms> insect voltron...
14:13:53 <G-Flex> a spriggan in a sort of copter-rickshaw
14:14:40 <greensnark> |amethyst: Do we fork submodules into the crawl project?
14:14:57 <|amethyst> already have been
14:15:34 <greensnark> So if I want to add rapidjson, I'd need to fork it into the gitorious crawl project?
14:15:41 <|amethyst> oh, hm
14:15:48 <greensnark> I haven't looked at gitorious in forever, let me sneak a peek
14:15:52 <|amethyst> nah
14:15:55 <greensnark> I was hoping this would just be a github dealier
14:15:57 <greensnark> *deal
14:15:59 <|amethyst> for submodules you can go ahead and use github
14:16:16 <|amethyst> we already switched over our .gitmodules when gitorious was being flaky
14:16:23 <greensnark> <3
14:17:16 <|amethyst> but the crawl commit that adds the github URL to .gitmodules should be pushed to gitorious :)
14:17:33 <greensnark> Exciting
14:17:43 <|amethyst> unless, as I was saying in the other channel, you want to be the one to send the "hey everyone, start pushing directly to github" email
14:18:09 <greensnark> I do not want to be the one doing that :)
14:18:22 <greensnark> I only show up on alternate leap years after all
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14:19:17 <greensnark> Do we have a preference for git:// vs https:// references in submodules
14:19:37 <greensnark> We seem to use git:// everywhere, but https might be better
14:20:40 <Lasty_> gammafunk: what do you think of adozu's poison god?
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14:21:16 <amalloy> greensnark: if you used https, wouldn't you have to type in a username and password anytime you wanted to push a change to that repo?
14:21:27 <|amethyst> amalloy:  you can't push to git:// at all
14:22:01 <gammafunk> Lasty_: I saw that it somehow drew dck out the mist, of all things
14:22:02 <amalloy> wow, really? i guess i've just never used a git:// remote
14:22:20 <gammafunk> I'd have to read it carefully, there was some weird piety/poison thing that seemed really exploitable
14:23:57 <|amethyst> greensnark:  btw, if you decide to move dcss_sequell etc to the crawl project, it's a pretty painless process (the old repo URLs continue to work, just not the web interface)
14:24:30 <|amethyst> I still need to get around to doing that for dgamelaunch-config
14:24:45 <Lasty_> gammafunk: yeah, dck seems to be passionately in favor
14:25:16 <amalloy> |amethyst: interesting. apparently you can actually enable pushes over git://, but since the protocol doesn't support authentication generally nobody does
14:25:22 <|amethyst> right :)
14:25:29 <|amethyst> amalloy:  also, https://help.github.com/articles/caching-your-github-password-in-git/
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14:26:05 <|amethyst> amalloy:  if you don't want to have to type the https passwords every time, and don't mind keeping them around in memory
14:26:09 <amalloy> well sure, i'm aware github has a way to do that for https. but why wouldn't you just use ssh for the push urls
14:26:25 <Cheibriados> 03greensnark02 07* 0.17-a0-770-g46ea769: JSON for playable species+apts, jobs, combos 10(25 minutes ago, 7 files, 153+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46ea7691c842
14:26:27 <|amethyst> stupid firewalls mainly
14:26:29 <|amethyst> also, we're talking about .gitmodules here
14:26:33 <|amethyst> the list of submodules
14:26:33 <greensnark> amalloy: Also this is talking about the clone URLs, not the push URLs
14:26:37 <|amethyst> so
14:26:38 <|amethyst> yeah
14:26:41 <greensnark> ssh push URLs are unfriendly to non-contributors
14:26:45 <|amethyst> what greensnark said
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14:27:09 <|amethyst> I use https:// for my pull URLs, ssh:// for my push URLs
14:27:13 <|amethyst> generally
14:27:26 <wheals> why did the crawl org suddenly get a json repo?
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14:28:12 <amalloy> wheals: blame greensnark
14:28:21 <wheals> !source json.cc
14:28:22 <|amethyst> hrm
14:28:22 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/json.cc
14:28:35 <|amethyst> this is likely to break server updates
14:28:42 <|amethyst> since most servers don't use submodules
14:30:03 <|amethyst> should we be switching webtiles json stuff to rapidjson?
14:30:21 <|amethyst> It seems weird to use two different JSON libraries
14:30:58 <|amethyst> (gtg, back in a little while)
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14:32:41 <Lasty_> gammafunk: if you get around to reading through it, let me know what you think. I'm not sure whether I'm being too hard on it. Or maybe not hard enough.
14:36:47 <Lasty_> (same goes for |amethyst, wheals, and everyone else around)
14:39:58 <gammafunk> Lasty_: yeah, it seems there are lots of details to work out for this god, how the poison/regen interaction might work specifically (there probably are some abusable cases) and the early game "do poison calculations to know how save it is to get the might/magic effect from !poison"
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14:40:55 <gammafunk> it's going to be complicated because poison's damage over time thing is pretty complicated in terms of putting burden on the player to account for damage over time
14:41:04 <gammafunk> but it's certainly the start of an interesting concept
14:41:49 <gammafunk> of course I repeat that all gods but Sif, Trog, Makhleb, and Kiku should be removed
14:41:53 <kvaak> isn't anything related to taking damage massively advantageous to races with high hp ats
14:41:56 <kvaak> *apts
14:42:00 <kvaak> and vice versa
14:42:53 <kvaak> try using OTR on a felid, on a human and on a naga
14:43:53 <greensnark> |amethyst: I could just commit the rapidjson thing into the crawl tree, but that seems messy
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14:44:40 <greensnark> Whoa we alreayd had a json.cc? :P
14:44:43 <gammafunk> not terribly concerned about Na having an advantage since they already have one of the worst disadvantages, but yeah a god that wants you to hurt yourself will pose some unique challanges
14:44:44 <greensnark> I'm out of touch here
14:45:55 <greensnark> We need pull requests
14:46:21 <Cheibriados> 03greensnark02 07* 0.17-a0-771-g010c3af: Revert "JSON for playable species+apts, jobs, combos" 10(47 seconds ago, 7 files, 22+ 153-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/010c3afcc1c3
14:46:43 <greensnark> Oh right webtiles uses JSON
14:47:48 <gammafunk> greensnark: oh, this is to make it spit out json of this data for purposes of Sequell?
14:48:26 <gammafunk> not sure how adaptable you'll find json.cc, since it's very webtiles specific, but maybe there are good functions to use there
14:48:41 <gammafunk> oh nm
14:48:57 <gammafunk> that's a json library it seems
14:49:13 <greensnark> It seems fairly complete
14:49:22 <greensnark> I should look at crawl code more often :P
14:50:56 <greensnark> The rapidjson api is more C++ly though
14:52:06 <gammafunk> yeah, if you wanted to do the work to convert webtiles to a better contrib :)
14:52:12 <Lasty_> Not just hurt yourself, but hurt yourself in a difficult-to-predict way
14:52:31 <Lasty_> I'm also worried that to make this god's benefits worthwhile (double poison damage) some code might get ugly
14:52:37 <Lasty_> (uglier)
14:52:38 <gammafunk> yeah, I imagine this will involve a lot of looking at %
14:53:10 <Lasty_> As things stand, doubling the amount of poison a monster has isn't very exciting because the cap is low.
14:53:19 <greensnark> This json library seems to have dubious memory safety
14:53:58 <Lasty_> Oh my god, there are three pages of "nerf melee brainstorming"
14:54:24 <gammafunk> people really want melee brainstorming nerfed
14:54:53 <Lasty_> lol
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14:55:21 <travis-ci> The build has errored. (master - 46ea769 #2397 : Darshan Shaligram): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/59774254
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14:56:32 <Cheibriados> All downstairs behind metal wall 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9673 by Zooty
14:57:39 <kvaak> good report
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15:10:10 <|amethyst> hm
15:10:22 <|amethyst> rapidjson doesn't seem to be in debian stable
15:10:28 <|amethyst> it's in sid though
15:11:53 <|amethyst> I wouldn't mind switching to a more complete/nicer library at some point though
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15:44:09 <Cheibriados> 03greensnark02 07* 0.17-a0-772-g9b901f1: JSON for playable species+apts, jobs, combos 10(2 minutes ago, 6 files, 164+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b901f1bb94a
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15:45:30 <Lantell> Webtiles server started.
15:46:18 <TZer0> Hmm.
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15:50:23 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-773-ge43c311: Update MSVC project for JSON changes. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e43c311a7b57
15:51:22 <Lasty_> %git :/[mM][pP] formula
15:51:22 <Cheibriados> 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-432-g06743f9: throw a bit of a curve into the flat mp formula 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 10+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/06743f9df4ec
15:52:22 <Cheibriados> 03greensnark02 07* 0.17-a0-774-g447fef9: Document -playable-json replacing -list-combos. 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/447fef9c19ad
15:52:25 <Lasty_> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) start>=2015-04-03 / won
15:52:25 <Sequell> 129/18085 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) start>=2015-04-03): N=129/18085 (0.71%)
15:52:29 <Lasty_> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) start>=2015-04-03 !boring / won
15:52:30 <Sequell> 129/16638 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) start>=2015-04-03 !boring): N=129/16638 (0.78%)
15:52:47 <Lasty_> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) recent start<=2015-03-01 !boring / won
15:52:55 <Sequell> 1388/124965 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) recent start<=2015-03-01 !boring): N=1388/124965 (1.11%)
15:53:00 <|amethyst> Lasty_:  you probably want to limit that by cv
15:53:07 <Lasty_> |amethyst: fair point
15:53:10 <|amethyst> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) start>=2015-04-03 s=cv
15:53:11 <Sequell> 18086 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) start>=2015-04-03): 9160x 0.17-a, 8744x 0.16, 81x 0.15, 46x 0.16-a, 19x 0.14, 12x 0.10, 10x 0.15-a, 7x 0.11, 6x 0.13, 0.12
15:53:13 <|amethyst> half are 0.16
15:53:36 <Lasty_> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) start>=2015-04-03 cv=0.16|0.16-a !boring / won
15:53:37 <Sequell> 51/8065 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) start>=2015-04-03 cv=0.16|0.16-a !boring): N=51/8065 (0.63%)
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15:53:45 <Lasty_> oh good
15:53:47 <Lasty_> er
15:53:50 <Lasty_> wait
15:53:56 <Lasty_> yeah
15:54:01 <|amethyst> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) start>=2015-04-03 cv~~0.17 !boring / won
15:54:02 <Sequell> 78/8453 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) start>=2015-04-03 cv~~0.17 !boring): N=78/8453 (0.92%)
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15:54:10 <Lasty_> it looks like book backgrounds had a harder time in 0.16 than after my changes
15:54:20 <Lasty_> (in the data set available)
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15:54:44 <Lasty_> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) start>=2015-04-03 !boring !won s=xl -graph
15:54:45 <Sequell> 16510 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) start>=2015-04-03 !boring !won): https://shalott.org/graphs/c05fc802e1ef00efe4aeeb8ce144117492f3873a.html
15:55:22 <Lasty_> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) start>=2015-04-03 cv~~0.17 !boring !won s=xl -graph
15:55:23 <Sequell> 8375 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) start>=2015-04-03 cv~~0.17 !boring !won): https://shalott.org/graphs/4238b83d382c4f1fedc0dcdba5c9ad649999c839.html
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15:55:28 <|amethyst> !lg * (fi|gl|mo|hu|as|be|mo|ak|ck|ar) start>=2015-04-03 cv~~0.17 !boring / won
15:55:28 <Sequell> hu is ambiguous: may be species or class. Use hu-- (Human) or --hu (Hunter) to disambiguate
15:55:34 <|amethyst> !lg * (fi|gl|mo|--hu|as|be|mo|ak|ck|ar) start>=2015-04-03 cv~~0.17 !boring / won
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15:55:35 <Sequell> 209/14875 games for * (((fi || gl || mo || --hu || as || be || mo || ak || ck || ar)) start>=2015-04-03 cv~~0.17 !boring): N=209/14875 (1.41%)
15:55:48 <Lasty_> !lg * (vm|--fe|ie|ee|ae|ne|su|cj|wz) cv~~0.16 !boring !won s=xl -graph
15:55:50 <Sequell> 114592 games for * (((vm || --fe || ie || ee || ae || ne || su || cj || wz)) cv~~0.16 !boring !won): https://shalott.org/graphs/6f67ca7630be6dedb99adc28d2568aa87e5864ba.html
15:55:53 <aarujn> Hi! Does Ely hate poison weapons now?
15:55:57 <Lasty_> no
15:56:11 <|amethyst> ely has never hated poison weapons AFAIK
15:56:21 <aarujn> When switching from TSO to Ely, wielded weapons show up as red now.
15:56:35 <|amethyst> what is the weapon?
15:56:35 <aarujn> (Is this wrong behav?)
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15:56:55 <Lasty_> aarujn: drain/vamp weapons should be red under Ely, but not pois
15:56:55 <aarujn> Wp: M) +0 dagger (venom)
15:57:28 <|amethyst> hm
15:57:30 <|amethyst> webtiles?
15:57:44 <aarujn> Should be red under TSO.  (I agree) Switched to Ely . . .  it's still red on main screen, not in inventory.  (yes: webtiles)
15:57:55 <|amethyst> I can't reproduce it in console.  I bet if you save and restore it will be back to normal
15:58:09 <aarujn> yes, it's not an issue for me
15:58:14 <Lasty_> %git :/[sS]hrike
15:58:14 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-500-g67d7a0a: Tone down caustic shrikes slightly 10(13 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/67d7a0a6d74f
15:58:38 <Lasty_> !shrikekills start>=2015-04-10
15:58:39 <Sequell> 10. TeshiAlair the Wrestler (L25 TrMo of Okawaru), splashed by a caustic shrike's acid on Depths:5 on 2015-04-23 15:50:29, with 542253 points after 63707 turns and 3:36:50.
15:58:44 <aarujn> was just posting in case it was symptomatic of some deeper "wrong" behav
15:58:46 <|amethyst> aarujn:  worth a bug report
15:59:08 <Lasty_> !shrikekills start>=2015-03-28
15:59:09 <Sequell> 27. TeshiAlair the Wrestler (L25 TrMo of Okawaru), splashed by a caustic shrike's acid on Depths:5 on 2015-04-23 15:50:29, with 542253 points after 63707 turns and 3:36:50.
15:59:17 <|amethyst> aarujn:  something is forgetting to send the HUD update to webtiles (but is remembering in console)
15:59:34 <johnny0> !shrikekills vlong>=0.17-a0-500-g67d7a0a
15:59:34 <Sequell> 7. TeshiAlair the Wrestler (L25 TrMo of Okawaru), splashed by a caustic shrike's acid on Depths:5 on 2015-04-23 15:50:29, with 542253 points after 63707 turns and 3:36:50.
15:59:37 <aarujn> oh
15:59:46 <Lasty_> Dang, shrikekills/day seem way down since MarvinPA's change
16:00:03 <aarujn> shrikes were v scary
16:00:08 <|amethyst> aarujn:  probably there are other situations where the same thing happens... I thought there was a similar bug on mantis but am not having much luck finding it at the moment
16:00:10 <Lasty_> yeah, I miss them too :
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16:01:07 <|amethyst> Fix extended by adding a branch solely about shrikes of various kinds
16:01:09 <|amethyst> death shrike
16:01:14 <|amethyst> hellshrike
16:01:20 <Lasty_> Also a mandatory shrike portal vault
16:01:29 <Lasty_> yellow shrike, red shrike
16:01:35 <Lasty_> gelid shrike
16:01:35 <|amethyst> (The Aerie has come up more than once)
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16:01:42 <|amethyst> (just need to add a "chasm" feature)
16:01:54 <|amethyst> and "rope bridge"
16:02:14 <TZer0> crawl is running on the old HW right now.
16:02:15 <Lasty_> I had an idea for a branch along those lines, where jumping into chasm would shaft you to a lower level.
16:02:17 <Lasty_> O
16:02:20 <Lasty_> I'm not sure it works.
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16:09:06 <PleasingFungus> 14:11:05 <amalloy> i don't understand https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9672 - what confirmation prompt is the submitter talking about, when using a portal?
16:09:06 <Sequell> PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them.
16:09:31 <PleasingFungus> I'm pretty sure they're talking about the warnings you get sometimes along the lines of "you won't be able to return immediately..." (when entering pan or the abyss)
16:10:07 <PleasingFungus> also I strongly suspect what's happening is that they're getting knocked around without leaving the 'descending stairs' state, and then happily 'descending' the portal
16:11:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus:  ah, yes
16:11:08 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus:  you don't get the abyss prompt
16:11:36 <|amethyst> yeah, being moved should end any stair delay
16:11:49 <|amethyst> probably this can happen with blink too, just much more rarely?
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16:12:41 <|amethyst> or with tele status
16:13:24 <PleasingFungus> tbh I'd think any of these would be rare
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16:13:39 <|amethyst> true
16:13:46 <|amethyst> I guess I should say "harder to reproduce" :)
16:14:07 <PleasingFungus> fair
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16:37:00 <gammafunk> Lasty_: that is a very small sample size
16:37:06 <Lasty_> yup
16:37:17 <gammafunk> I mean there's only one moon kill after all!
16:37:31 <gammafunk> .moon
16:37:33 <Sequell> 21. [2015-04-23 19:55:35] FACE the Warrior (L20 VSWr of Ashenzari) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 45203. (Elf:1)
16:37:36 <gammafunk> oh good, a new one
16:37:41 <gammafunk> !lg face vswr
16:37:41 <Sequell> No games for face (vswr).
16:37:46 <gammafunk> !lm face vswr alive
16:37:47 <Sequell> 46. [2015-04-23 19:55:35] FACE the Warrior (L20 VSWr of Ashenzari) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 45203. (Elf:1)
16:37:50 <gammafunk> hrm
16:37:58 <PleasingFungus> moon troll a wuss
16:37:59 <gammafunk> !lm face vswr alive x=src
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16:38:00 <Sequell> 46. [2015-04-23 19:55:35] [src=cao] FACE the Warrior (L20 VSWr of Ashenzari) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 45203. (Elf:1)
16:38:01 <travis-ci> The build passed. (master - 9b901f1 #2399 : Darshan Shaligram): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/59785357
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16:38:36 <gammafunk> .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$
16:38:36 <PleasingFungus> not currently playing
16:38:37 <Sequell> 21. FACE, XL20 VSWr, T:45203 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org.
16:39:00 <gammafunk> that trident is an embarrassment
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16:45:13 <gammafunk> good
16:45:16 <gammafunk> very good
16:46:41 <gammafunk> this is basically a kill
16:46:47 <gammafunk> yep, I think he's dead
16:46:55 <gammafunk> he saved with 2hp
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16:47:03 <gammafunk> and a VS
16:48:32 <PleasingFungus> pfft, "basically a kill"
16:48:58 <gammafunk> well he's going to die
16:49:04 <gammafunk> when he loads that game again
16:49:30 <gammafunk> VS, in a corner with 2hp, next to tentacle X and quicksilver D
16:49:50 <gammafunk> after random teleport from moon troll with 20 hp, landed next to the quicksilver
16:49:59 <gammafunk> I don't see a way for him to escape, but maybe
16:50:07 <gammafunk> &dump FACE cao
16:50:08 <Sequell> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/FACE/FACE.txt
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16:50:49 <gammafunk> hopefully he doesn't just never finish the game
16:50:53 <PleasingFungus> more like
16:50:55 <PleasingFungus> he's gonna quit
16:51:03 <gammafunk> that still counts for kmap
16:51:06 <PleasingFungus> huh
16:51:09 <PleasingFungus> !gamesby face
16:51:09 <gammafunk> hrm
16:51:09 <Sequell> face has played 251 games, between 2013-10-12 21:21:30 and 2015-04-21 03:11:57, won 2 (0.8%), high score 7574385, total score 13706528, total turns 2412459, play-time/day 0:34:44, total time 13d+10:32:59.
16:51:15 <PleasingFungus> good odds of playing again
16:51:16 <gammafunk> maybe not actually, maybe only map
16:51:44 <PleasingFungus> yeah map maybe
16:52:05 <gammafunk> either way good job moon troll
16:52:24 <PleasingFungus> trolled again...
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16:53:02 <PleasingFungus> you'd think trident wouldn't be great for vs
16:53:03 <PleasingFungus> regardless
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16:56:54 <gammafunk> well if you mean the bite, that's only relevant for the free hit
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16:57:03 <gammafunk> since monsters w/o reach will move adjacent
16:57:22 <gammafunk> I guess it makes it a bit of a pain to optimally fight monsters that do have reach
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17:00:44 <ZChris13> gammafunk: it's always a pain to fight reaching monsters
17:01:04 <ZChris13> anyway, reduce chunk drops from corpses, make all enemies drop corpses
17:01:27 <simmarine> done
17:01:38 <ZChris13> oh?
17:01:48 <ZChris13> dang, I thought I was having an original thought
17:02:30 <gammafunk> it's even more of a pain to fight reaching monsters if you have to manually move next to them to get bite damage
17:03:16 <PleasingFungus> ZChris13: is that apropos of anything?
17:03:24 <gammafunk> doesn't seem like it
17:04:12 <ZChris13> you could reduce overhead by reducing randomness, make food actually relevant maybe
17:04:20 <ZChris13> if you squinted really hard
17:04:55 <PleasingFungus> also would make dragon hides more common and increase the time spent butchering & casting animate skeleton etc
17:05:17 <PleasingFungus> I don't understand what you mean by "reducing overhead by reducing randomness"
17:05:20 <PleasingFungus> I'm not sure that means anything
17:05:24 <ZChris13> you could increase the difficulty
17:05:25 <gammafunk> yeah that mystifies me
17:05:36 <ZChris13> headroom
17:05:39 <ZChris13> I meant headroom
17:05:39 <ZChris13> fuck
17:05:45 <gammafunk> max headroom?
17:06:25 <ZChris13> hangedman linked a thing re: nethack and sil and brogue and difficulty
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17:06:52 <ZChris13> anyway it might make chunks actually relevant, also make zombies/skeletons temporary?
17:06:56 <PleasingFungus> we did that
17:06:58 <ZChris13> oh
17:07:02 <PleasingFungus> I don't see how your change would make chunks relevant
17:07:09 <simmarine> yes, if anything theyre less relevant
17:07:10 <PleasingFungus> it seems to be a change for the sake of change
17:07:17 <ZChris13> if you reduced chunk droprate enough
17:07:39 <ZChris13> I dunno
17:07:43 <ZChris13> I had an idea
17:07:45 <PleasingFungus> there's a minimum of one per corpse. it would basically just make bigger corpses worth less, which doesn't seem like a useful goal.
17:07:57 <PleasingFungus> sometimes ideas don't work out
17:08:02 <ZChris13> hmmm yeah I'll think about it some more but you're probably right
17:08:42 <gammafunk> most content is good content!!!!
17:08:53 <ZChris13> not giving up yet on it
17:10:15 <PleasingFungus> godspeed
17:10:28 <PleasingFungus> gammafunk: removing content is like desecrating the spirit of stone soup, basically.
17:10:42 <gammafunk> the soupy spirit...
17:10:53 <gammafunk> the brothy ghost...
17:11:25 <ZChris13> shit health emergency
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17:11:52 <gammafunk> I hope...he gets better...?
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17:18:28 <Cheibriados> tile_key_repeat_delay option doesn't work anymore 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9674 by 1old3
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17:22:04 <PleasingFungus> now, the question becomes: what is tile_key_repeat_delay actually supposed to do?
17:22:09 <PleasingFungus> hell of a name
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17:25:13 <greensnark> Sounds like it's a key repeat delay
17:25:21 <greensnark> Which means how long after you hold down a key it begins to repeat
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17:27:10 <PleasingFungus> how did 'tile' get into there
17:27:18 <PleasingFungus> maybe it's only for tiles (local tiles)?
17:27:24 <PleasingFungus> I guess I could look this up
17:27:43 <PleasingFungus> yeah looks like that's it
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17:28:35 <Cheibriados> Trog description missing a closed parenthesis 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9675 by 1old3
17:29:36 <PleasingFungus> huh, that shouldn't be in there at all...
17:30:00 <PleasingFungus> also, "you or your go-given allies"?
17:32:12 <ontoclasm> PleasingFungus: yes it's only for local tiles
17:32:48 <ontoclasm> on console and webtiles it's determined by the os
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17:34:52 <PleasingFungus> do we still support that 'local tiles' thing?
17:35:01 <PleasingFungus> doesn't ring a bell..
17:35:38 <ontoclasm> we should redo tiles in like
17:35:39 <ontoclasm> unity
17:37:24 <wheals> %git 451446cc7371a5eb6
17:37:24 <Cheibriados> 07reaverb02 * 0.17-a0-477-g451446c: Remove some dead corpse sacrifice code 10(2 weeks ago, 7 files, 4+ 101-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/451446cc7371
17:37:34 <wheals> fixed #9675
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17:38:21 <wheals> not sure when it was introduced
17:38:54 <|amethyst> wheals:  remember to apply it to 0.16 as well (where it affects more gods than in trunk)
17:39:29 <wheals> well, if you look at that commit you'll see there are some nontrivial conflicts :P
17:39:43 <ontoclasm> hm
17:39:44 <|amethyst> err
17:39:53 <ontoclasm> i still want to make us a new logotype
17:40:17 <|amethyst> sorry, misunderstood
17:40:25 <|amethyst> that didn't entirely fix it
17:40:51 <wheals> issue still for beogh i suspect
17:41:01 <wheals> introduced with
17:41:02 <wheals> %git  80a6ed43dcaa
17:41:02 <Cheibriados> 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-3852-g80a6ed4: Remove another global. 10(3 months ago, 23 files, 217+ 272-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80a6ed43dcaa
17:41:07 <wheals> oops!
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17:42:52 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-775-gc1d8188: Fix a missing paren (#9675) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c1d81885ec71
17:42:53 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-18-g436b03c: Fix two missing parens (#9675) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/436b03cc892d
17:42:58 <wheals> would be nice if we autogenerated those from godconduct.cc
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17:44:56 <|amethyst> seems like it would be simple enough to do
17:46:05 <amalloy> PleasingFungus: i'm reasonably sure local tiles still works. i remember having an option to play tiles or console when i downloaded the 0.14 windows .exe
17:46:10 <|amethyst> and fortunately all the 'verbose' strings are just appended to the short string
17:46:12 <wheals> i guess the prayer ones would have to be changed
17:46:18 <wheals> amalloy: he's joking about the bugginess
17:46:35 <PleasingFungus> ^
17:46:36 <amalloy> oh, the sdl thing. i forgot about that
17:46:40 <PleasingFungus> and general lack of dev love
17:46:45 <PleasingFungus> (myself included)
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17:47:53 <amalloy> i have to imagine local tiles is one of the most popular ways to play, right? like tiles players outnumber console 4:1 or so iirc, and for most people the "obvious" way to play a game is to download it and then run it
17:48:17 <wheals> gotta feel sorry for them
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17:51:16 <wheals> |amethyst: were you planning on moving monster to the crawl github org?
17:52:20 <PleasingFungus> amalloy_: it probably is, it's just a huge mismatch between devs and playerbase
17:52:35 <PleasingFungus> no idea how to fix that
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17:57:31 <devesine> well, speaking as someone who just introduced someone else to Crawl, having webtiles *right freaking there* on the website probably makes a big difference
17:58:24 <devesine> because he clicked around on the website and said "oh, log in and play right here, that's handy" and bookmarked the webtiles page
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18:01:44 <ontoclasm> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype5.png
18:01:48 <ontoclasm> mnh
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18:03:09 <Cheibriados> Add action counts for defense. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9676 by argonaut
18:05:18 <amalloy> speaking of introducing new players to crawl, is there (or should there be) any support for anonymous games? i don't love making a new account on some website just to try out a game i might or might not like - if there were just a button new players could press "Try now!" i feel like that would save some portion of the potential userbase that we're currently losing
18:05:46 <wheals> chequers was working on having guest accounts on servers
18:06:05 <ontoclasm> that seems like asking for trouble
18:06:40 <PleasingFungus> amalloy: we've been discussing exactly that, yes
18:07:07 <PleasingFungus> a click-to-play thing that automatically creates a Guest123123 account (credentials stored in cookies) and drops you into the game
18:08:34 <PleasingFungus> idk if anyone's working on that actively; cheq' had some good ideas about it but I haven't heard anything latley
18:09:39 <wheals> also fun fact: webtiles-changes will have its first birthday in 16 days
18:09:45 <PleasingFungus> hm
18:09:52 <PleasingFungus> I remember when it was gonna get deployed over the holidays last year
18:10:21 <wheals> should merge it on flag day for maximum chaos
18:10:28 <PleasingFungus> haha
18:13:31 <gammafunk> no one likes doing more IT stuff than they have to!
18:14:12 <PleasingFungus> I remember, back before the game was dead to him, nrook was complaining about having a large chunk of the game's code that no one could reasonably contribute to, since the main branch is deprecated and the alternate branch isn't used
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18:14:28 <PleasingFungus> I told him that it wouldn't be much longer before it would be deployed
18:14:37 <PleasingFungus> just as well he isn't still around to mock me for it :)
18:14:47 <gammafunk> well nrook's statements about what will be or should be done never impressed me very much
18:15:18 <gammafunk> we just have a few problems that need solving in terms of infrastructure, and they're kind of interrelated
18:16:16 <gammafunk> I think the biggest thing is that it's too much a hassle to create and update servers, and we don't have centralized logins
18:16:30 <gammafunk> webtiles-changes could be finished up and rolled out if not for those two
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18:20:25 <PleasingFungus> does webtiles-changes break logins in some way?
18:23:02 <gammafunk> it doesn't change logins, no, but any change to how we do logins will require significant changes to webtiles
18:23:29 <gammafunk> so for that issue, it was more that centralized logins are just more important, and probably should be rolled out first
18:23:50 <gammafunk> but we don't even have a plan for this, so....
18:24:38 <gammafunk> that issue of upgrading servers is kind of important though; I was hoping that progress on this and on centralized logins might be forthcoming
18:25:25 <gammafunk> so I haven't been working on it recently, but there's not terribly a lot to do, just move stuff over to bootstrap react and incorporate some of mrwooster's js reorganization
18:26:52 <gammafunk> but anyhow I really think those other two infrastructure issues are pretty important
18:27:41 <gammafunk> maybe |amethyst thinks differently; I know he's not super exciting to work on more crawl IT stuff though!
18:27:44 <gammafunk> *excited
18:28:10 <PleasingFungus> I'm real sad about the centralized login thing
18:28:17 <PleasingFungus> I feel like I made promises which I could not follow through on
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18:29:05 <gammafunk> Oh I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's not like you've been idle :)
18:29:35 * PleasingFungus shrugs
18:29:44 <gammafunk> !blame2 wheals
18:29:44 <Sequell> wwwhhheeeaaalllsss
18:29:50 <gammafunk> that might make you feel better
18:29:58 <wheals> rip
18:30:46 <ZChris13> are these wacky sequell commands documented
18:31:05 <CanOfWorms> ontoclasm: not sure about the font for the logo
18:31:07 <PleasingFungus> hell no.
18:31:14 <gammafunk> ??sequell
18:31:15 <Sequell> sequell[1/4]: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md  If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell
18:31:15 <CanOfWorms> seems too scifi?
18:31:18 <gammafunk> ??sequell[2
18:31:18 <Sequell> sequell[2/4]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html lists user-defined keywords/commands/functions.
18:31:19 <wheals> https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html#commands your welcome
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18:31:32 <geekosaur> !help blame
18:31:32 <Sequell> No help for !blame (you could add help with !learn add !help:!blame <helpful text>)
18:31:36 <ZChris13> !coffee wheals
18:31:41 * Sequell hands wheals a pot of black coffee, brewed by Okawaru.
18:31:42 <gammafunk> !help !xxx
18:31:42 <Sequell> No help for !xxx (you could add help with !learn add !help:!xxx <helpful text>)
18:31:49 <ontoclasm> CanOfWorms: yeah, idk
18:31:50 <ZChris13> or rather
18:31:51 <ZChris13> !cheers wheals
18:31:51 * Sequell slides a pint of whiskey across the bar to wheals, courtesy of ZChris13.
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18:31:58 <wheals> thanks, i hate coffee
18:32:01 <PleasingFungus> !epicchar
18:32:01 <Sequell> The RNG chooses: GhAM
18:32:05 <wheals> pint is a bit much isn't it :P
18:32:06 <PleasingFungus> goodcommand
18:32:16 <PleasingFungus> oh, this one's good too
18:32:18 <PleasingFungus> !drke
18:32:18 <ontoclasm> CanOfWorms: did you see my previous attempt
18:32:18 <Sequell> No
18:32:21 <gammafunk> !learn add !help:!xxx Cast Summon Horrible Things on some puny mortal.
18:32:22 <Sequell> !help:!xxx[1/1]: Cast Summon Horrible Things on some puny mortal.
18:32:23 <CanOfWorms> nope
18:32:25 <gammafunk> !help !xxx
18:32:25 <Sequell> !xxx: Cast Summon Horrible Things on some puny mortal.
18:32:35 <CanOfWorms> lewd
18:32:50 <PleasingFungus> !xxx CanOfWorms
18:32:50 <Sequell> PleasingFungus mumbles some strange words. 10 tentacled monstrosities appear! The tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps CanOfWorms! x10
18:32:57 <ontoclasm> CanOfWorms: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype3.png
18:33:00 <ZChris13> !abyss Cheibriados
18:33:00 <PleasingFungus> !hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet
18:33:00 <Sequell> ZChris13 casts a spell. Cheibriados is devoured by a tear in reality!
18:33:13 <CanOfWorms> I like that one better
18:33:22 <PleasingFungus> !hellsuccess
18:33:25 <Sequell> Hell success rate for PleasingFungus. hell: N=26/27 (96.30%), geh: N=10/10 (100.00%), coc: N=9/9 (100.00%), tar: N=12/12 (100.00%), dis: N=10/12 (83.33%)
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18:33:41 <CanOfWorms> !abyss lugonu...?
18:33:41 <Sequell> CanOfWorms casts a spell. lugonu...? is devoured by a tear in reality!
18:33:44 <theLHC> !abyss the world
18:33:44 <Sequell> theLHC casts a spell. the world is devoured by a tear in reality!
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18:34:09 <PleasingFungus> !pot
18:34:12 <PleasingFungus> !pot
18:34:13 <Sequell> 50
18:34:14 <CanOfWorms> should have !abyss reverse the effect if you try to abyss lugonu
18:34:17 <PleasingFungus> huh
18:34:49 <wheals> that's part of the holdem minigame i bet
18:34:55 <PleasingFungus> !tea CanOfWorms
18:35:01 * Sequell hands CanOfWorms a cup of lapsang souchong, brewed by Agnes.
18:35:07 <wheals> !pizza everyone
18:35:07 * Sequell cooks up a stack of mushroom pizza for everyone, courtesy of wheals.
18:35:11 <PleasingFungus> classy
18:35:22 <CanOfWorms> :o
18:35:30 <ontoclasm> i am shitty at designing things that are larger than like
18:35:33 <ontoclasm> 0.5 inches on a side
18:35:47 <PleasingFungus> what's an "inch"?
18:35:59 <PleasingFungus> is that like a pixel?
18:36:22 <ontoclasm> yes
18:36:23 <ZChris13> !blame3 hangedman
18:36:23 <Sequell> haaaaangeeeeedmaaaaan
18:37:03 <gammafunk> I imagine ontoclasm's SO asks him to make a couple's portrait and is a bit disappointed when it ends up being 32x32 pixels
18:37:27 <CanOfWorms> an inch is what you put in front of worms
18:37:29 <PleasingFungus> could still be cute :)
18:37:36 <gammafunk> it would be pretty cute, yeah
18:37:50 <ZChris13> !crystalball
18:37:52 <Sequell> ZChris13 the Martial Artist (L16 DrTm), worshipper of Sif Muna, slain by a wolf spider on Spider:1, with 93188 points after 36011 turns and 1:32:16.
18:37:57 <wheals> would feel sorry for bloax's though
18:38:01 <ZChris13> woah
18:38:01 <gammafunk> haha
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18:38:09 <PleasingFungus> !secrip Z Chris13
18:38:10 <ontoclasm> gammafunk: i did do this yesterday: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/tg/mh/coyote.jpg
18:38:12 <Sequell> ZChris13 the Martial Artist (L12 DrTm), worshipper of Sif Muna, slain by a skeletal warrior (a +0 hand axe) on D:11, with 15479 points after 14029 turns and 0:38:49.
18:38:23 <ZChris13> I've already completed D:11
18:38:37 <gammafunk> ontoclasm: that's awesome
18:38:45 <ZChris13> why do I keep worshipping sif muna
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18:39:39 <ZChris13> !dam
18:39:39 <Sequell> 0.0 - 7.0
18:39:43 <gammafunk> sif muna is the best god
18:39:46 <gammafunk> !lm ..
18:39:47 <Sequell> No keyword '..'
18:39:48 <gammafunk> !lm .
18:39:49 <Sequell> 13957. [2015-04-23 21:35:16] gammafunk the Summoner (L11 HESu of Sif Muna) entered the Shoals on turn 7574. (Lair:6)
18:39:54 <gammafunk> <3 sif
18:39:54 <ZChris13> so many spells
18:39:58 <ZChris13> so much magic
18:40:06 <CanOfWorms> many spells, much magic
18:40:12 <CanOfWorms> such channeling
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18:40:30 <gammafunk> Look, sif's first gift to me was the Book of Dreams. That's right, Sif gifts *Dreams*
18:40:40 <ZChris13> I also got dreams from Sif
18:40:46 <CanOfWorms> sif's a  hippie?
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18:41:03 <wheals> book of sexyelfdreams
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18:46:23 <ZChris13> somebody call minmay
18:47:45 <gammafunk> !source dbg-objstat.cc
18:47:45 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dbg-objstat.cc
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18:56:27 <chequers> the guest account code is nearly finished
18:56:35 <chequers> but i haven't touched it for a few weeks
19:00:22 <PleasingFungus> huh
19:00:24 <PleasingFungus> neat
19:02:53 <Cheibriados> 03greensnark02 07* 0.17-a0-776-gd86b262: Add draconian flavours to -playable-json. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d86b26276447
19:02:55 <Cheibriados> main screen message log goes blank until page is reloaded 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9677 by stubblyhead
19:04:26 <wheals> i should rewrite gen-apt.pl to use that stuff
19:06:56 <gammafunk> perl? PERL?!?!
19:07:18 <wheals> !send gammafunk swine
19:07:18 <Sequell> Sending swine to gammafunk.
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19:14:16 <gammafunk> !lg face vswr
19:14:16 <Sequell> No games for face (vswr).
19:14:20 <gammafunk> come on FACE
19:14:24 <gammafunk> !lg face s=src
19:14:24 <Sequell> 251 games for face: 251x cao
19:14:37 <wheals> &dump face
19:14:38 <Sequell> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/FACE/FACE.txt
19:14:48 <wheals> wow nice
19:14:54 <gammafunk> I figure no way he can survive
19:14:58 <gammafunk> but I'd love to be proven wrong
19:15:03 <wheals> good trident name
19:17:05 <wheals> guess i'd blink and pray, personally
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19:17:27 <wheals> but yeah looks unsurvivable
19:18:21 <wheals> not clear whether the dragon is under breath cooldown
19:18:52 <gammafunk> yeah, the tentacle might even block the dragon
19:18:59 <gammafunk> if he moves NE
19:19:15 <gammafunk> I don't think he has blink, but maybe he has the spell
19:19:23 <chequers> the tentacle wil hit him unless the blink is amazing
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19:19:25 <gammafunk> oh yeah he does
19:19:33 <chequers> 26EV
19:19:42 <chequers> !lm face
19:19:42 <Sequell> 1754. [2015-04-23 19:55:35] FACE the Warrior (L20 VSWr of Ashenzari) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 45203. (Elf:1)
19:20:12 <gammafunk> I think he has a decent chance of not getting hit by the tentacle or dragon for like a turn or two
19:20:15 <gammafunk> with a blink
19:20:24 <gammafunk> but then he'd have to serial blink to get time to tele
19:20:32 <chequers> cant tentacles move 2 squares a turn?
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19:20:58 <gammafunk> @??tentacled_starspawn_tentacle
19:20:58 <Gretell> unknown monster: "tentacled_starspawn_tentacle"
19:21:05 <wheals> they have a weird movement
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19:21:16 <Grunt> !lm * milestone~~moon_base / lg:place=wizlab
19:21:19 <wheals> i'm not sure whether the mon-data.h speed matters at all
19:21:20 <Sequell> 1/21 milestones for * (milestone~~moon_base): N=1/21 (4.76%)
19:21:26 <Grunt> gammafunk: you done goofed
19:21:31 <gammafunk> @??starspawn_tentacle
19:21:31 <Gretell> starspawn tentacle (11w) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 22 | HP: 14-26 | AC/EV: 8/2 | Dam: 303(constrict) | 11non-living, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: Large | Int: normal.
19:21:33 <Grunt> that killrate isn't nearly high enough
19:21:37 <Grunt> <_<
19:21:41 <gammafunk> Grunt: no way, the best wizlab has a 2% killratio
19:21:46 <wheals> !lg * wizlab current trunk / map~~moon_base
19:21:47 <Sequell> 0/11 games for * (wizlab current trunk): N=0/11 (0.00%)
19:21:52 <wheals> !lg * wizlab current trunk / kmap~~moon_base
19:21:52 <Sequell> 0/11 games for * (wizlab current trunk): N=0/11 (0.00%)
19:21:55 <gammafunk> but a funny statistic is
19:21:57 <wheals> !?!
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19:22:03 <Grunt> oh
19:22:04 <Grunt> !kw current
19:22:05 <Sequell> Keyword: current => cv>=0.16
19:22:05 <gammafunk> .moon / won
19:22:06 <Sequell> 7/21 milestones for * (br.enter=wizlab milestone~~moon_base): N=7/21 (33.33%)
19:22:08 <Grunt> !kw trunk
19:22:08 <Sequell> Keyword: trunk => alpha !experimental
19:22:11 <Grunt> !kw alpha
19:22:12 <Sequell> Built-in: alpha => alpha=true
19:22:17 <gammafunk> 66% of players die after doing wizlabs
19:22:17 <Grunt> !lg * x=alpha
19:22:18 <Sequell> 4242966. [alpha=true] gameguard the Vexing (L1 VpEn), slain by a kobold (a +0 short sword) on D:1 on 2015-04-24 00:21:56, with 0 points after 68 turns and 0:00:22.
19:22:20 <gammafunk> or like 50%
19:22:24 <wheals> !lg * map~~moon_base
19:22:24 <Sequell> No games for * (map~~moon_base).
19:22:27 <gammafunk> I didn't realize so many xl20+ players die
19:22:35 <wheals> !cmd .moon
19:22:35 <Sequell> Command: .moon => !lm * br.enter=wizlab milestone~~moon_base $*
19:22:38 <Grunt> !lg * wizlab current trunk / map~~lehudib
19:22:39 <Sequell> 1/11 games for * (wizlab current trunk): N=1/11 (9.09%)
19:22:40 <gammafunk> of course one must filter that
19:22:41 <Grunt> wheals: ^
19:22:50 <Grunt> the map is wizlab_lehudib
19:22:51 <wheals> oh, i see
19:22:54 <Grunt> er
19:22:55 <Grunt> s/map/vault/
19:23:01 <gammafunk> yeah I kept the map naming scheme
19:23:05 <gammafunk> consistent with the others
19:23:10 <gammafunk> seemed wise to do
19:23:31 <gammafunk> Grunt: fr: a Grunt wizlab
19:23:34 <gammafunk> I can only imagine
19:23:43 <wheals> enforces LANG_GRUNT?
19:23:46 <gammafunk> haha
19:23:51 <wheals> fr: moon base enforces LANG_BUTT
19:23:51 <johnstein> !lg * !won xl>19
19:23:52 <gammafunk> how about it contains
19:23:52 <Sequell> 37306. bhh the Hoplite (L27 DDFi of Makhleb), blasted by a greater mummy (divine providence) on Tomb:3 (tomb_3) on 2015-04-23 22:42:52, with 766649 points after 33978 turns and 3:45:30.
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19:24:00 <wheals> bh: ripp
19:24:02 <gammafunk> every grunt monster, monster spell
19:24:09 <gammafunk> and all the things grunt made
19:24:12 <johnstein> !lg . !won xl>19
19:24:13 <Sequell> 9. johnstein the Merfolkian Porcupine (L27 MfSk of Makhleb), demolished by a golden dragon simulacrum on Abyss:3 on 2014-10-25 07:59:08, with 722999 points after 139629 turns and 21:41:17.
19:24:14 <gammafunk> that never made it to trunk
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19:24:34 <wheals> !lg devteamnp xl>19 / won s=name o=-%
19:24:35 <Sequell> 1586/2417 games for devteamnp (xl>19): 0/1x Zaba [0.00%], 0/1x SamB [0.00%], 3/12x Neil [25.00%], 8/30x HangedMan [26.67%], 2/7x mumra [28.57%], 24/82x KiloByte [29.27%], 24/79x wheals [30.38%], 5/16x bookofjude [31.25%], 1/3x felirx [33.33%], 9/26x erisdiscordia [34.62%], 26/62x dpeg [41.94%], 3/7x evktalo [42.86%], 26/56x sorear [46.43%], 41/86x SGrunt [47.67%], 1/2x DracoOmega [50.00%], 1/2x re...
19:24:56 <wheals> !lg devteamnp xl>19 / won s=name ?:N>15 o=-%
19:24:56 <Sequell> Broken query near '=-%'
19:24:58 <johnstein> gammafunk one day I'll be a good player who doesn't lose when past XL 20
19:25:01 <gammafunk> !lg . recent !gfspeed x!boring l>=19 / won
19:25:02 <Sequell> No keyword 'x'
19:25:05 <gammafunk> !lg . recent !gfspeed !boring l>=19 / won
19:25:05 <wheals> !lg devteamnp xl>19 / won s=name o=-% ?:N>15
19:25:05 <Sequell> Unknown field: l
19:25:06 <Sequell> 1498/2220 games for devteamnp (xl>19): 24/82x KiloByte [29.27%], 24/79x wheals [30.38%], 26/62x dpeg [41.94%], 26/56x sorear [46.43%], 41/86x SGrunt [47.67%], 32/53x gammafunk [60.38%], 58/94x rob [61.70%], 50/80x pointless [62.50%], 456/699x 78291 [65.24%], 115/171x MarvinPA [67.25%], 37/55x PleasingFungus [67.27%], 38/56x doy [67.86%], 83/112x Lasty [74.11%], 70/87x itsmu [80.46%], 85/96x Medar ...
19:25:09 <wheals> check it out
19:25:11 <gammafunk> !lg . recent !gfspeed !boring xl>=19 / won
19:25:12 <Sequell> 15/18 games for gammafunk (recent !gfspeed !boring xl>=19): N=15/18 (83.33%)
19:25:18 <wheals> i'm literally the worst active dev
19:25:19 <gammafunk> that's pretty good
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19:25:44 <gammafunk> !lg . cv>=0.13 !gfspeed !boring xl>=19 / won
19:25:45 <Sequell> 18/21 games for gammafunk (cv>=0.13 !gfspeed !boring xl>=19): N=18/21 (85.71%)
19:25:58 <wheals> i just need to die 4 more times to beat kilobyte
19:26:15 <johnstein> !kw !gfspeed
19:26:15 <Sequell> Expression: !gfspeed => char!=heie|hesu|deie|desu|mibe
19:26:30 <johnstein> goldfish speed?
19:26:34 <gammafunk> haha
19:26:52 <ontoclasm> !lg . xl>19 / won
19:26:53 <Sequell> 17/32 games for ontoclasm (xl>19): N=17/32 (53.12%)
19:27:12 <johnstein> !lg . xl>19 / won
19:27:13 <Sequell> 8/17 games for johnstein (xl>19): N=8/17 (47.06%)
19:27:19 <wheals> !nick devteamnp
19:27:19 <Sequell> Mapping devteamnp => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu marvinpa evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk reaverb pleasingfungus 78291 lasty
19:27:26 <gammafunk> two of those xl19+ deaths of mine were bad orb ninjas
19:27:31 <johnstein> *almost* a goodplayer
19:27:36 <wheals> oh yeah not recursive
19:27:37 <gammafunk> had to mess that up a few times before I got it down I guess
19:27:50 <wheals> protip practice with felids
19:27:54 <gammafunk> !lg . recent !gfspeed !boring xl>=19 !won s=char
19:27:54 <Sequell> 3 games for gammafunk (recent !gfspeed !boring xl>=19 !won): SpEn, MfSk, HOFE
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19:28:14 <gammafunk> that an forgetting my rF against and oof
19:28:21 <gammafunk> noticed it was missing too late
19:28:28 <johnstein> !lg mfc xl>19 / won
19:28:29 <Sequell> 295/636 games for mfc (xl>19): N=295/636 (46.38%)
19:31:01 <amalloy> !lg . xl>19 / won
19:31:02 <Sequell> 15/26 games for amalloy (xl>19): N=15/26 (57.69%)
19:31:25 <amalloy> !lg . xl>19 thisyear / won
19:31:26 <Sequell> 11/18 games for amalloy (xl>19 thisyear): N=11/18 (61.11%)
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19:33:48 <gammafunk> !lg . recent !gfspeed xl>=19 boring s=char
19:33:49 <Sequell> 4 games for gammafunk (recent !gfspeed xl>=19 boring): 2x MfSk, FoAK, HuFE
19:34:54 <johnstein> go for speed?
19:35:07 <gammafunk> haha
19:35:18 <gammafunk> !lg . s=char
19:35:19 <Sequell> 2871 games for gammafunk: 1134x HESu, 864x HEIE, 148x DEIE, 136x FeCK, 93x OpTm, 86x DESu, 45x HEFi, 24x MfSk, 19x DgWn, 17x GhEE, 16x NaVM, 15x MiBe, 14x HuFi, 13x DEAs, 13x VSIE, 13x FeWn, 12x VSWz, 12x FeAK, 11x FeTm, 11x CeAM, 10x OpSu, 10x MfFi, 10x FoAK, 9x HaCj, 8x HOFE, 7x MfGl, 7x MuGl, 7x DEGl, 6x TeAE, 5x OpDK, 5x HEWr, 4x NaAs, 4x VpIE, 4x SpEn, 4x KoWr, 3x DrTm, 3x DDHe, 3x OgAr, 3x F...
19:35:46 <johnstein> !lg . s=char
19:35:46 <Sequell> 215 games for johnstein: 19x FeAK, 15x OpBe, 14x MfMo, 13x DsWn, 13x MiBe, 10x MfTm, 7x GrBe, 6x DsAr, 6x HuWn, 5x FeBe, 5x OpHu, 5x DsVM, 5x DsBe, 5x DEBe, 4x OgAM, 4x HOBe, 4x DsMo, 3x MiFi, 3x DsCK, 3x OpSk, 3x MiNe, 2x DrEn, 2x OgBe, 2x GhEE, 2x HaBe, 2x OpTm, 2x DsTm, 2x HOGl, 2x FeAr, 2x OpCK, 2x TrBe, 2x MiDK, 2x DEWz, NaBe, OgAr, FeSu, FeMo, MfBe, KoSk, MuFi, DECK, FoTm, DgWn, OpCj, DsEE, ...
19:35:49 <gammafunk> just the speedruns that I do
19:36:23 <johnstein> I feel so inadequate. only 215 total games
19:37:25 <gammafunk> !greaterplayer johnstein
19:37:28 <gammafunk> !greatplayer johnstein
19:37:32 <Sequell> Unwon backgrounds for johnstein: Abyssal Knight, Air Elementalist, Arcane Marksman, Artificer, Assassin, Chaos Knight, Conjurer, Earth Elementalist, Enchanter, Fighter, Fire Elementalist, Hunter, Ice Elementalist, Monk, Necromancer, Skald, Summoner, Venom Mage, Wanderer, Warper, Wizard
19:37:35 <Sequell> Unwon species for johnstein: Centaur, Deep Elf, Demigod, Draconian, Felid, Formicid, Ghoul, High Elf, Human, Kobold, Mummy, Naga, Octopode, Ogre, Spriggan, Tengu, Troll, Vampire, Vine Stalker
19:37:41 <Grunt> !polytheist johnstein
19:37:42 <Sequell> Unwon gods for johnstein: , Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Lugonu, Nemelex Xobeh, Qazlal, Ru, Sif Muna, The Shining One, Vehumet, Xom, Yredelemnul, Zin
19:37:49 <Grunt> get to work
19:38:03 <gammafunk> johnstein: I found it fun to plan out a shortest path to greaterplayer, choosing combos so you do a new species, class each time
19:38:04 <johnstein> playing minecraft
19:38:31 <johnstein> I did that a bit in the last tourney
19:38:48 <johnstein> !won
19:38:49 <Sequell> johnstein has won 8 times in 215 games (3.72%): 1xDDBe 1xDsBe 1xGrBe 1xHOBe 1xHOGl 1xHaBe 1xMfTm 1xMiBe
19:38:51 <wheals> gammafunk: if you get them both in 27 games that's "grunterplayer"
19:39:05 <johnstein> non Trog wins!
19:39:30 <Grunt> grunterplayer :o
19:39:38 <Grunt> ??grunterplayer
19:39:38 <Sequell> grunterplayer ~ greaterplayers[1/2]: Players who have won every currently available to play race and class. Lifetime membership once you get in!
19:39:40 <wheals> !lg Grunt won 27
19:39:41 <Grunt> ha
19:39:41 <Sequell> 27/42. SGrunt the Eclecticist (L25 DgWn), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-12-24 23:56:35, with 1248244 points after 143251 turns and 9:08:53.
19:39:47 <Grunt> !lg sgrunt won 27
19:39:47 <Sequell> 27/41. SGrunt the Intangible (L27 KoBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-12-27 22:22:20, with 1316205 points after 127321 turns and 5:32:28.
19:39:59 <wheals> !lg grunt won end<2013-12-24 23:56:35
19:40:00 <Sequell> No keyword '23:56:35'
19:40:04 <wheals> !lg sgrunt won end<2013-12-24
19:40:05 <Sequell> 25. SGrunt the Slingshot (L27 HaWr of Fedhas), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-12-17 06:10:23, with 1198505 points after 153763 turns and 9:41:29.
19:40:10 <wheals> !lg sgrunt won end<2013-12-25
19:40:11 <Sequell> 26. SGrunt the Eclecticist (L25 DgWn), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-12-24 23:56:35, with 1248244 points after 143251 turns and 9:08:53.
19:40:14 <Grunt> !lg grunt won end<2013-12-25
19:40:15 <Sequell> 27. SGrunt the Eclecticist (L25 DgWn), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-12-24 23:56:35, with 1248244 points after 143251 turns and 9:08:53.
19:40:23 <Grunt> !greatplayer grunt end<2013-12-25
19:40:27 <Grunt> !greaterplayer grunt end<2013-12-25
19:40:30 <Sequell> Unwon species for grunt (end<2013-12-25): Formicid
19:40:33 <Sequell> grunt (end<2013-12-25) is a greaterplayer!
19:40:36 <wheals> !lg grunt won end<2013-12-25 x=cdist(crace),cdist(job)
19:40:37 <Sequell> 27 games for grunt (won end<2013-12-25): cdist(crace)=24; cdist(cls)=27
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19:40:38 <Grunt> Fo didn't exist then!!
19:40:46 <Grunt> (at least not in stable)
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19:46:08 <gammafunk> !lg Grunt sk=summoning won
19:46:08 <Sequell> 1. SGrunt the Demonologist (L23 MuSu of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2012-07-02 03:01:03, with 1222861 points after 102693 turns and 10:07:03.
19:46:13 <gammafunk> acceptable
19:46:20 <gammafunk> !haunt Grunt
19:46:21 <Sequell> gammafunk casts a spell at Grunt. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The freezing wraith hits Grunt! x3 The phantasmal warrior hits Grunt! x5
19:46:39 <Grunt> !xxx gammafunk
19:46:40 <Sequell> Grunt casts a spell. 14 tentacled monstrosities appear! The tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps gammafunk! x14
19:46:49 <wheals> //XXX: gammafunk
19:47:31 <Grunt> // ugh.
19:47:34 <Grunt> -- Grunt
19:47:40 <Grunt> I wonder if that comment is there
19:47:42 <wheals> // ugh, gammafunk
19:47:42 <Grunt> *still there
19:48:00 <wheals> probably!
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19:49:39 <Grunt> wait, I removed that myself
19:49:48 <Grunt> it was part of the old mon-cast code which I rewrote
19:49:54 <wheals> nice, lookup_help.cc has 3 ughs
19:49:57 <Grunt> there's still an "// ugh" courtesy of me though
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19:50:33 <wheals> msg = "shimmer%s and vanish" + string(plural ? "" : "es"); // Ugh
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19:51:56 <wheals> there's an Ugh! quoted from lovecraft
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19:54:48 <chequers> Grunt: did you code gozag in the first place? wondering if you had any opinion about the recent changes
19:55:50 <Grunt> chequers: I *coded* Gozag; I didn't *design* Gozag
19:56:00 <Grunt> if you want design feedback on the recent changes, ask dpeg :)
19:57:18 <simmarine> fr: crawl doesnt let you attempt to pacify a wall
19:57:26 <Grunt> You cannot pacify that creature!
19:57:28 <Grunt> <_<
19:57:44 <Grunt> ("The wall is a mimic! The wall cackles and disappears in a puff of smoke. 2 Hell Sentinels come into view.")
19:58:17 <minmay> The light of Elyvilon fails to reach the gazebo.
19:58:28 <Grunt> The gazebo goes berserk!
19:58:32 <chequers> Grunt: i know, but if you coded gozag you presumably care a little bit :P
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19:58:56 <Grunt> I coded just enough of Gozag to give other people a chance to weigh in on and tweak the design >_>
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20:04:44 <gammafunk> Lasty_: On a mibe speedrun: _You finish putting on the +2 hat "Ibloat" {-Cast MR++ rCorr}.
20:05:42 <Grunt> that seems kind of
20:05:43 <Grunt> bloated
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20:07:48 <gammafunk> !send Grunt meatsacks
20:07:48 <Sequell> Sending meatsacks to Grunt.
20:08:44 <Cheibriados> Lindwurm and fire dragon now display as red, but are still described as green. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9678 by Siveran
20:08:44 <Grunt> !send gammafunk meatbags
20:08:44 <Sequell> Sending meatbags to gammafunk.
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20:28:33 <chequers> LORE FAILURE ALERT
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21:57:00 <nicolae-> CRAWL SUCKS
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22:09:42 <gammafunk> PleasingFungus: check out the sweet armour on my MiBe
22:09:47 <gammafunk> &dump
22:09:48 <Sequell> http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt
22:09:55 <gammafunk> some weird thing
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22:27:03 <gammafunk> !lg face
22:27:04 <Sequell> 251. FACE the Grasshopper (L1 SpWr), slain by an adder on D:2 on 2015-04-21 03:11:57, with 6 points after 225 turns and 0:01:54.
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23:01:55 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-776-gd86b262 (34)
23:03:59 <Eksell> Stable (0.16) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16.1-18-g436b03c
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23:34:05 <reaverb> https://bpaste.net/show/aefa76e65955
23:34:18 <reaverb> Lowering the Lair rune branches to 4 levels, wondering if I missed something >_>
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23:35:38 <reaverb> linesprint specifically excluded because A) It already refers to removed locations (like D:27) B) It's unreasonable for the map to be a hold on changing the length of any branch forever.
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23:36:54 <gammafunk> reaverb: incredibly improper use of hyphen!!!
23:37:02 <gammafunk> in the commit comment
23:37:07 <reaverb> Which one?
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23:37:20 <reaverb> First one I guess.
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23:37:32 <gammafunk> yeah, I'm just being silly, but you could remove it entirely
23:37:33 <reaverb> Yeah that's totally unnecessary and I'll remove it.
23:38:52 <gammafunk> reaverb: hrm, before mana viper was 1-5
23:38:55 <gammafunk> now it's 2-4?
23:39:12 <gammafunk> in pop_snake I mean
23:39:32 <reaverb> Argh, must have messed that up.
23:39:55 <reaverb> Thanks for catching that.
23:40:43 <reaverb> I am surprsied somebody is combing through this to that extent. Thank you so much >_>
23:41:16 <gammafunk> np, also probably nicolae_cobra_stairs can just be 2-3
23:41:21 <gammafunk> !vault nicolae_cobra_stairs
23:41:21 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/snake.des#l323
23:41:50 <reaverb> Oh, there isn't any mechanical effects of something having a range of Branch:0, right?
23:42:05 <reaverb> I assumed that was true when editting the FLAT distributions >_>
23:42:51 <gammafunk> what do you mean by range of branch:0?
23:43:13 <reaverb> {  1,  4,  200, FLAT, MONS_MANA_VIPER }, is the same as:
23:43:19 <reaverb> {  0,  4,  200, FLAT, MONS_MANA_VIPER }, correct?
23:43:43 <reaverb> sorry, I originally phrased that poorly.
23:44:12 <gammafunk> yeah I think it is the same; FLAT meaning it's weight 200 for each of those depths
23:44:16 <gammafunk> but I'd have to check to be sure
23:44:29 <gammafunk> reaverb: I can't go through all of this tonight, but I'll be sure to check it tomorrow
23:44:35 <reaverb> Crawl code D:
23:44:42 <reaverb> gammafunk: Sure, no rush.
23:44:45 <gammafunk> maybe it could go in tomorrow evening if all looks well?
23:44:47 <reaverb> Thank you.
23:45:08 <reaverb> Do you have any structural changes I might have missed?
23:46:00 <reaverb> (Like descriptions, except I got those of course >_>)
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23:46:17 <gammafunk> I'll let you know for sure when I've had time to sit down and look carefully; I was going to ask about vaults but you've got that covered
23:46:31 <reaverb> Sure, that's fine.
23:46:31 <johnstein> have there been many discussions on slime reform?
23:46:33 <gammafunk> Grunt might be good to ask, since he went through most of the work to make Depths
23:46:44 <gammafunk> from when we had D only
23:46:51 <reaverb> Yeah I was around then D:
23:46:57 <reaverb> err s/D:/:D/
23:47:04 <reaverb> wasn't a dev of course but still >_>
23:47:19 <Grunt> ?
23:47:25 <gammafunk> I was a dev at the time, but I didn't really pay attention to what teh hasted patch executioner was up to
23:47:37 <gammafunk> Grunt: https://bpaste.net/show/aefa76e65955
23:47:46 <Grunt> reaverb: those two lines are identical unless you happen to be pulling monsters from :0
23:47:49 <gammafunk> reaverb's patch to shorten water/poison lair branches one level
23:47:53 <Grunt> which I don't think ever happens
23:48:04 <reaverb> Grunt: Cool :D
23:48:16 <lobf> Hey fellas, here’s a bug for you
23:48:17 <lobf> http://imgur.com/LkIuF1m
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23:48:33 <lobf> I had a kraken zombie next to me, went up stairs, 5’d, came back down and he was on land
23:48:38 <gammafunk> nice kraken
23:48:38 <reaverb> Really it's kind of bad that crawlcode made that not obvious but still.
23:48:53 <lobf> I love getting kraken zombies
23:48:57 <lobf> And my version is there at the top
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23:49:40 <gammafunk> lobf: if you're a good person, you'll lead it back to water, gently coax it back into water, and sing a soothing melody to calm it down
23:49:43 <gammafunk> poor thing
23:49:59 <lobf> haha actually it makes sense that it could crawl up on land now that it’s dead
23:50:08 <lobf> but i will lead it back to the water, don’t worry gamma
23:50:12 <gammafunk> tyvm
23:50:59 <lobf> for sure
23:51:03 <lobf> but yeah, is that a known bug?
23:52:22 <gammafunk> not sure if it is, would be good to report on mantis if you have the time
23:52:30 <lobf> For sure
23:55:55 <G-Flex> I'm curious why undead krakens have rainbow colors
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23:56:20 <reaverb> rainbow colors?
23:56:26 <lobf> reported
23:56:38 <Cheibriados> Kraken Zombie on Land 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9679 by lobf
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23:57:07 <G-Flex> reaverb: randomly colored tentacles and such
23:57:08 <reaverb> "Kraken Zombie on Land" would be good name for a rock band.
23:57:16 <reaverb> G-Flex: console or tiles?
23:57:21 <G-Flex> console
23:57:33 <reaverb> Hmm, that seems weird.
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23:59:25 <G-Flex> what's the pan/hell level with the river and labyrinthine corridors? Is that Tartarus:7?
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23:59:46 <minmay> gammafunk: look at this shit https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/thankslist.php?mode=givens&author_id=2152&give=false try to go to page 26
23:59:55 <G-Flex> because kraken zombies show up a lot there, might be visible in the ttyrec