00:02:11 <|amethyst> I kind of like the idea of contam being something you can explicitly budget 00:02:19 <|amethyst> but that does add a fair amount of complexity for players 00:03:16 <|amethyst> (i.e. so you could see "I have enough contam dissipation left to use this charm, but not this other one, without increasing my contam level") 00:04:15 <|amethyst> s/without/indefinitely without/ 00:04:33 would almost need something like a third bar in addition to hp and mp in order to judge that well enough for it to not just be annoying 00:05:00 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:01 The build has errored. (oubliette - 0ff73da #2337 : gammafunk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/59082500 00:05:01 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:05:02 <|amethyst> doy: we have room for a third bar! 00:05:06 <|amethyst> doy: thank lava orcs! 00:05:10 haha 00:06:29 |amethyst: I think adding flexibility in terms of more gradual contam danger would be nice 00:06:41 right now, grey is harmless and yellow is enough to malmutate you, which is one of the Very Bad outcomes 00:06:49 you could introduce a radiation themed branch 00:06:52 with the toxic rune of zot 00:07:03 would it be a good idea for there to be a level of contamination in between "harmless" and "gives you cancer" 00:07:16 DrKe: fissile rune of zot 00:09:16 eh 00:09:40 "gives you cancer" is still better than "your entire body is now cancer and you're literally exploding" 00:10:46 <|amethyst> yeah, perhaps a tactical level of contam would be nice 00:10:51 <|amethyst> but how to balance invis 00:11:01 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-701-gb6462b4 (34) 00:11:28 make it consumable only? 00:11:32 <|amethyst> I mean 00:11:35 <|amethyst> if it cancels itself (because you are glowing and thus visible) before you are at risk of mutation 00:12:04 <|amethyst> hm 00:12:25 <|amethyst> (or does the dur stay up in that situation?) 00:12:32 <|amethyst> s/stay/currently stay/ 00:16:27 ??rebuild 00:16:28 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:19:05 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-701-gb6462b4 (34) 00:19:44 ??rebuild [2] 00:19:44 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CSZO: 0600/0500; CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes 00:20:12 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:20:22 ??cpo 00:20:23 cpo[1/1]: DCSS server in Sydney. Webtiles: https://crawl.project357.org/ SSH: crawl@crawl.project357.org (pw joshua or key available via webtiles). Operated by chequers. 00:22:44 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:25:37 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:27:22 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: welp cya] 00:29:48 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:53 -!- qoala has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30:06 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:09 01:12:26] <|amethyst> (or does the dur stay up in that situation?) 00:40:16 I believe the spell effect stays up 00:40:20 it just doesn't do anything because you're glowing 00:40:25 don't take my word for this though 00:40:49 -!- anubiann00b has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:42:46 the invis enchantment stays, yeah 00:42:50 and continues giving you contam 00:43:44 pretty sure neil was wondering about what it would do if you had a contam level between grey and yellow 00:43:52 you already budget contam btw, potion haste/invis is often safe if you are already contaminated 00:44:15 <|amethyst> I meant as a more general thing attached to more charms 00:45:12 I mean it would be nice to have a better contam display even if charms don't change, since there are already cases where you really do care where in grey contam you are 00:45:12 cTele as well 00:45:56 yes 00:52:54 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-701-gb6462b4 00:56:55 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03:13 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:11:10 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:13:44 I am somewhat disappointed as to how bribing the vaults only worked on the vault-only enemies 01:13:55 I thought it would catch the giants and yaktaurs and the like as well 01:15:48 <|amethyst> I think it would probably be fine to be able to bribe everything of sufficient intelligence in the brance 01:15:59 <|amethyst> s/nce/nch/ 01:16:25 <|amethyst> it's not at all clear to players what counts as "native" 01:16:47 <|amethyst> I'm surprised yaktaurs don't count as native in V 01:16:47 yeah 01:16:52 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:53 The build has errored. (oubliette - f72a8f6 #2339 : David Ploog): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/59084098 01:16:53 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:17:05 and would be awesome to see "an ancient lich (friendly)" 01:17:35 <|amethyst> that better be one expensive bribe :) 01:17:56 well, 3000 gold to bribe is a lot to begin with 01:20:11 also only about a quarter of the vault-guard ambush was bribed away 01:24:10 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:24:25 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:28:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:29:09 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:34:03 I feel like working on an Oubliette where your ally is a sane Crazy Yiuf 01:34:54 Crazy Yiuf took his meds 01:37:06 bedlam 01:41:20 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:42:39 Xelif (L27 KoWr) (Pan) 01:43:38 -!- ayayaya has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:22 -!- shummie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:44:27 <|amethyst> sane crazy yiuf already exists 01:44:59 yeah, confused yiuf is sane 01:45:00 <|amethyst> you just need to confuse him (sane but boring), or worship Xom (philosopher Yiuf) 01:51:05 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:06 The build has errored. (oubliette - 39f467b #2340 : David Ploog): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/59086206 01:51:06 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:52:46 -!- ayayaya has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:02:34 ooh. didn't know. ty 02:14:02 perm_enchant:confuse 02:14:03 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:14:06 !messages 02:14:06 (1/1) CanOfWorms said (9h 53m 39s ago): eternal torment tiles: http://i.imgur.com/NLWN6QJ.png http://i.imgur.com/lkNIKyP.png 02:24:13 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-701-gb6462b4 (34) 02:24:37 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:38 The build has errored. 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RFJesus1egend4r12 the Archmage (L27 GrFE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-04-16 00:15:13, with 10514372 points after 163393 turns and 18:50:07. 03:50:11 weird 03:50:20 !goodplayer RFJesus1egend4r12 03:50:20 RFJesus1egend4r12 is a goodplayer: 11 wins. 03:50:43 just slightly confused expectations about how advanced our infrastructure is, i think 03:51:04 a compliment for sure 03:51:27 can't wait for DockerCrawl 03:51:41 more like DorkCrawl lol 03:51:59 I got a nice docker-powered minecraft feed-the-beast server running and it's SOO nice not having to screw around with directories and stuff 03:52:20 I grumble when I have to do cbro maintenance 03:56:21 @??freezing wraith 03:56:21 freezing wraith (12W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 32-55 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1612(cold:8-23), 1313(drain speed) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 311 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 04:17:14 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:15 The build passed. 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You're familiar with lua, right? 06:31:01 sugabear (L11 GrFi) (D (Sprint)) 06:31:12 dpeg, I haven't touched it in ages 06:31:24 no problem, I'll keep asking around :) 06:31:37 it seems like all the deva who used to use it a lot went inactive though 06:31:45 back in the day, I did a lot of randomisation in ziggurat.des... but time goes on, and it's been completely changed since then 06:31:49 or most of them anyway 06:32:19 I don't need very much, just picking randomly from lists etc. 06:45:36 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:55:15 -!- edlothiol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:56:22 -!- RFJesus1egend4r1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:57:35 -!- fazisi is now known as howlongcanimakem 06:58:20 -!- howlongcanimakem is now known as fazisi 07:00:48 -!- Shados has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:01:07 -!- quik has quit [Quit: No existe otra realidad, la ciudad, el agujero... Vive y mata por dinero, esa mueca siniestra del demonio lo demuestra... 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Game is crashing at startup tho. 08:31:17 crash report: https://gist.github.com/bendem/108725df1cecb43426c8 08:32:30 <|amethyst> does removing saves/db work? 08:33:24 saves is empty 08:33:40 <|amethyst> hm 08:34:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:44 <|amethyst> and, regarding the first problem, you have git but git describe --tags didn't work properly? 08:35:08 $ git describe --tags 08:35:09 fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. 08:35:13 no idea why 08:35:24 <|amethyst> what about git show 08:35:29 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:35:52 <|amethyst> regarding the second, it looks like that failing assert is: 08:35:57 <|amethyst> ASSERT(sqlite3_threadsafe()); 08:36:14 yeah, I figured that much :P 08:36:18 <|amethyst> is your sytem sqlite3-dev an old version? 08:36:20 <|amethyst> system 08:36:51 it's 3.8.8.3-1.fc21 08:37:06 last is 3.8.9 so 08:38:32 <|amethyst> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166319 08:38:45 <|amethyst> looks like you'll have to use the version from contribs 08:39:05 <|amethyst> so go to the top level of the crawl checkout and do git submodule update --init 08:39:34 <|amethyst> then you can build with make BUILD_SQLITE=yes 08:39:54 <|amethyst> so you use our version instead of Fedora's 08:40:28 <|amethyst> hm 08:40:35 <|amethyst> that fedora bug is closed though 08:41:03 yeah, but in rawhide 08:41:23 <|amethyst> ah, how old is fc21? 08:41:43 rawhide is basically fedora testing branch 08:41:56 fc22 is for in a few months or so 08:42:02 <|amethyst> I'd have thought something fixed in rawhide 9 years ago would be in fc21 08:42:15 oh woops 08:42:21 I didn't read everything 08:42:36 yeah, it should've been fixed :/ 08:43:09 will see how it goes with the contrib 08:43:11 <|amethyst> I still have no clue why git describe isn't working, because you should have a tag somewhere in the history of the current commit 08:43:38 you know what sucks about using a chromebook? having to use xfce to do linux 08:43:58 <|amethyst> you can't install something else? 08:44:12 well, if i had a better chromebook i'm sure i could 08:44:12 <|amethyst> I mean, no, you probably don't want to use gnome with 3d compositing or something 08:44:28 but with the limited ram and such it's pretty much xfce or nothing 08:44:28 could it be because I cloned with --depth=1 08:44:29 ? 08:44:31 <|amethyst> I use sawfish with the gnome panel 08:44:43 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44:48 <|amethyst> bendem: yeah, that would do it 08:44:48 might be why 08:45:27 ProzacElf: no fvwm2? 08:45:28 <|amethyst> bendem: --single-branch would probably be okay 08:45:48 dpeg: not familiar with it. it might work 08:45:57 it looks pretty spartan 08:45:59 <|amethyst> bendem: though unless you're really low on disk space or it takes hours to download 100 megs, I'd just go with the whole thing 08:46:05 <|amethyst> I used fvwm2 for years 08:46:21 <|amethyst> if you're happy with the defaults it's fine 08:46:24 i mean, i'm already used to xfce, so i'll probably stick with it 08:46:30 <|amethyst> the config format is inscrutable at times 08:46:39 and i've spent time customizing and whatnot 08:47:00 <|amethyst> I was about to say, you can customize it a lot but it will take hours :) 08:47:05 well, I don't really mind having a unique version. Except if that messes up stats collection 08:47:19 not really worth customising so much, imw 08:47:21 ime 08:47:31 but trying to make, for example, steam or stata work is just about as bad as trying to make anything work in wine =P 08:47:34 <|amethyst> bendem: you're just building to play, not to make patches? 08:47:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:47:56 firstly to try it out, if I like it, I might look at the sources :) 08:47:57 |amethyst: I have slight problems with lua tweaking here (it's not very much)... if I get stuck, can I push and you have a look? 08:48:01 <|amethyst> bendem: probably we should have a better fallback if release_ver isn't there, also for people with a tarball 08:48:31 <|amethyst> dpeg: yeah, though I'm not that great with the lua stuff 08:48:35 hmmm, same problem when built with 'make clean && make -j -l 3 SOUND=y TILES=y BUILD_SQLITE=y' 08:48:35 heh, i got sick enough of building tarballs that i pretty much only play online now 08:48:42 |amethyst: it will do, I'm sure :) 08:49:00 * dpeg only uses local for testing 08:49:02 i mean, it's not *that* hard but it is a pain 08:49:11 <|amethyst> bendem: same sqlite threadsafe thing? 08:49:15 yep 08:49:16 yeah, i used to keep a local version for wizmode 08:49:25 but i don't even do that anymore 08:49:43 <|amethyst> hm 08:49:47 because guys like crate or minqmay will just do it for you half the time 08:49:54 <|amethyst> I *know* people have built on Fedora before 08:50:09 surely you can build on fedora 08:50:17 crash-report diff: https://gist.github.com/bendem/108725df1cecb43426c8/revisions 08:50:20 <|amethyst> bendem: do you have all the prerequisites listed in INSTALL.txt? 08:50:26 there's even wizmode online these days (devs only?) 08:50:33 really? 08:50:49 yes, it's very useful... less pain with the infrastructure for losers like me 08:50:57 that's neat. even if it's dev-only 08:51:34 |amethyst, didn't check, I guessed it would fail if I didn't :P 08:51:57 SDL is in the prerequisites. Doesn't it use SDL2? 08:52:05 <|amethyst> oh right 08:52:08 <|amethyst> that list is old :/ 08:52:28 <|amethyst> but I was more concerned about whether you have the things necessary to build with pthreads 08:52:55 I've built a few applications with pthreads, that shouldn't be a problem 08:52:58 <|amethyst> hm 08:53:21 <|amethyst> because with BUILD_SQLITE=y it should be building our copy of sqlite, which has threading turned on 08:53:33 <|amethyst> so that shouldn't be returning false 08:53:40 <|amethyst> sqlite3_threadsafe 08:53:41 fedora isn't on a (k)ubuntu base is it? 08:53:48 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: no 08:53:50 -!- Maud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:53:56 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: fedora is redhat's 08:54:02 right 08:54:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:54:36 then i'll refrain from giving much advice 08:54:53 because i've only ever used ubuntu-based os-es 08:55:06 -!- yuastnav has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:55:14 well, linux-wise anyway 08:55:25 wow, I am just seeing the tables at the top of wizlab.des for the first time... someone put a lot of effort into that, nice 08:56:07 let me reclone everything 08:57:27 |amethyst: i suspected so, and i also suspect the deletion request is unimportant 08:57:37 by the way, are universities on the take from microsoft? when i got my undergrad degree we had banks of sun machines running unix 08:57:49 and now you can't find a damned thing that doesn't run windows 08:57:55 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:58:16 napalm over Redmond 08:58:33 in Germany, many maths/CS institutes have linux 08:58:55 the Sun seems to have settled, though 08:59:20 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: "on the take" meaning "have a site license", yes 09:00:05 <|amethyst> but, yeah, usually CS departments will have Linux machines unless IT trumps departmental requirements 09:00:23 lol 09:00:28 oh yeah right 09:00:32 |amethyst: well said :) 09:00:40 in fact, my university has a site license with lenovo 09:00:54 "You can choose linux or you can choose death." "Alright, we take death." 09:00:54 because they're "a local company" 09:01:28 <|amethyst> oh, you're in China? 09:01:38 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-702-gb3a3556: Don't crash when animating undead fails. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3a3556273aa 09:01:41 <|amethyst> in that case it probably is actual bribery 09:01:47 no 09:01:52 mass 09:02:05 but they have an office here so the university considers them "local" 09:02:13 <|amethyst> that's... 09:02:17 <|amethyst> eh 09:02:23 hmm 09:02:26 $ git describe --tags 09:02:26 fatal: No tags can describe 'b6462b4c20db31974062cc098fcb0c8532216e79'. 09:02:27 yeah 09:02:34 brb 09:02:41 had to git fetch --tags to get a new error message 09:03:16 <|amethyst> I don't know how git fetch --tags interacts with --depth 09:03:27 <|amethyst> probably not well 09:03:32 ProzacElf: Do they consider walmart to be a "local" grocery store over, say, shaw's? 09:03:37 I recloned, I should have the complete history now 09:03:41 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-702-gb3a3556 (34) 09:03:43 <|amethyst> hm 09:04:12 <|amethyst> what does git tag list? 09:04:38 <|amethyst> in particular, does it include anything about 0.17-a0, or for that matter any -a0 tag 09:04:41 <|amethyst> ? 09:05:04 0.17-a0 is in it 09:05:39 $ git tag | wc -l 09:05:39 104 09:06:13 -!- TMTurtle has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:06:22 could use git describe --tags --always 09:06:31 <|amethyst> what does that give you? 09:06:46 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:06:48 <|amethyst> just the commit hash? 09:07:02 yeah 09:07:20 I don't know, my main problem is sqlite tho 09:07:36 <|amethyst> I have no clue at this point 09:07:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:08:18 johnny0: i doubt it 09:08:54 <|amethyst> bendem: file a bug report, or two probably 09:08:58 but then, there's only like one wal-mart east of I-495 09:09:11 <|amethyst> bendem: with the full list of commands you used to fetch and build 09:09:31 admittedly, when they get pizza for meetings, they get it from an actual local joint 09:09:55 granted, it's not really better than domino's, but at least they make the effort 09:11:39 <|amethyst> bendem: maybe try using BlasterBlade's source package combined with trunk? 09:11:43 <|amethyst> bendem: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/nazar554/Fedora_21/src/ 09:11:57 <|amethyst> bendem: (that's for 0.16.1) 09:12:27 hm, it's not latest tho :3 09:12:47 <|amethyst> right, I mean using the redhat-specific stuff from that, combined with the source from trunk 09:13:17 <|amethyst> I haven't done rpms in over 10 years so I don't remember the details of what's in the source package 09:13:27 <|amethyst> presumably a build script at the very least 09:13:29 eeh, I have no idea how rpms work 09:13:48 * bendem checks 09:13:50 <|amethyst> I don't have a fedora machine to test on unfortunately 09:15:48 <|amethyst> dpeg: I assume you saw my two commits on the branch? 09:15:50 hmm, they compile it with make TILES=y DESTDIR="%{_builddir}/%{buildsubdir}/tmp-tiles" prefix="%{_prefix}" DATADIR="%{_datadir}/%{name}" CFOPTIMIZE="%{optflags}" SAVEDIR="~/.crawl" %{?_smp_mflags} 09:16:01 <|amethyst> hm 09:16:05 <|amethyst> what is _smp_mflags 09:16:08 <|amethyst> that sounds relevant 09:16:14 |amethyst: yes, many thanks! Already updated oubliette documentation to account for it :) 09:16:35 there is no other references to that :/ 09:16:42 uuuhh 09:16:48 I just launched the game 09:16:58 I don't even 09:17:08 <|amethyst> hm 09:17:16 what did I do now? 09:17:24 <|amethyst> oh, never mind, _smp_mflags is just make -jN 09:18:03 03dpeg02 07[oubliette] * 0.17-a0-713-ge9d4015: Oubliette documentation: ally placement. 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e9d401549045 09:18:03 03dpeg02 07[oubliette] * 0.17-a0-714-g12bda93: Add an arrival vault featuring some puny monsters attacking the ally. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/12bda935840a 09:18:56 I don't know what I did to fix it, but I guess it was on my end 09:19:07 * bendem is confused 09:21:47 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:22:30 <|amethyst> bendem: hm... do remember that, because of our funky makefile, you need to also provide BUILD_SQLITE=yes when doing make install 09:22:43 <|amethyst> (and make test etc etc) 09:22:55 sprunge.us/VZFZ 09:23:01 <|amethyst> maybe it was something like that and it rebuilt again without the built-in one? 09:23:12 I want to pick one ally from 09:23:23 ally_list = {"Sigmund", "Dowan", ...} 09:23:31 I didn't install, I just ran it from the build folder 09:23:41 at the start, and then use the variable ally later on. 09:24:07 <|amethyst> dpeg: then you probably don't want function ally() 09:24:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:15 I tried 09:24:16 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:24:17 <|amethyst> dpeg: variables and functions share a namespace 09:24:40 local ally = util.random_from({"Sigmund", ...}) 09:24:44 but that didn't work either 09:25:36 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:26:22 <|amethyst> maybe make it not local, and give it a longer name so that it isn't likely to interfere with other lua that uses a similar variable name 09:26:35 ok 09:26:47 <|amethyst> I'm not sure on the details of what 'local' means when it's at top level 09:26:57 <|amethyst> definitely that would need to be in the lua block though 09:27:18 <|amethyst> also, what if it randomly chooses Sigmund but he has already been placed? 09:27:24 <|amethyst> elsewhere in the game 09:28:27 <|amethyst> the idea here is that you'll have different opponents depending on who your ally is? 09:29:33 <|amethyst> possibly that could be done with subvaults 09:29:56 |amethyst: cool, got something working 09:30:00 family time for a bit 09:30:02 <|amethyst> I must say at this point it's a bit beyond me 09:30:07 <|amethyst> so you're doing better than I would :) 09:30:19 haha, later! thx 09:33:18 New branch created: pull/9 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/9 09:33:18 03noxdominus02 07[pull/9] * 0.17-a0-702-gecb00c8: Update unident.txt 10(48 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ecb00c85ad4b 09:33:18 03noxdominus02 07[pull/9] * 0.17-a0-703-gbffd9fb: Update backgrounds.txt 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bffd9fb32f07 09:39:27 Fusha (L14 DrEE) (D:11) 09:40:58 <|amethyst> !crashlog fusha 09:40:58 18. Fusha, XL14 DrEE, T:31033 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Fusha/crash-Fusha-20150419-143909.txt 09:41:20 <|amethyst> !crashlog -2 09:41:20 No milestones for -2 (crash). 09:41:26 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -2 09:41:27 11156/11157. [2015-04-19 12:16:32] glosham the Reanimator (L12 MuNe of Sif Muna) (D:11) 09:41:34 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -2 x=src 09:41:34 11156/11157. [2015-04-19 12:16:32] [src=cszo] glosham the Reanimator (L12 MuNe of Sif Muna) (D:11) 09:41:36 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -3 x=src 09:41:36 11155/11157. [2015-04-19 12:10:27] [src=cdo] Svalbardcaretaker the Spry (L15 OpWn of Kikubaaqudgha) (Lair:1) 09:41:37 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -4 x=src 09:41:38 11154/11157. [2015-04-19 10:46:04] [src=cpo] zzxc the Eclecticist (L18 DEEE of Kikubaaqudgha) (Vaults:4) 09:41:40 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -5 x=src 09:41:40 11153/11157. [2015-04-19 10:42:08] [src=cpo] zzxc the Eclecticist (L18 DEEE of Kikubaaqudgha) (Vaults:4) 09:41:43 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -6 x=src 09:41:43 11152/11157. [2015-04-19 10:25:52] [src=cxc] ZiggyStardust the Meteorologist (L27 OpIE of Makhleb) (Zig:22) 09:41:46 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -7 x=src 09:41:46 11151/11157. [2015-04-19 09:56:52] [src=cwz] Pearldrake the Brawler (L12 TrEE of Okawaru) (Lair:1) 09:42:13 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -8 x=src 09:42:14 11150/11157. [2015-04-19 08:28:38] [src=cszo] tapatio the Brawler (L23 GhMo of Ru) (Depths:4) 09:42:17 <|amethyst> !lm * crash -9 x=src 09:42:18 11149/11157. [2015-04-19 07:35:11] [src=cszo] Xelif the Portalist (L27 KoWr of Kikubaaqudgha) (Pan) 09:42:20 <|amethyst> hm 09:42:39 <|amethyst> rebuilding cxc and CDO 09:42:57 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-702-gb3a3556 (34) 09:43:55 <|amethyst> Zaba: care to review and merge pull/9 when you get a chance? 09:44:37 |amethyst, looks fine 09:44:43 -!- Fusha has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:45 <|amethyst> I guess I can merge it 09:44:55 feel free to, I am not sure how to do that anyway 09:44:58 <|amethyst> let's try that without screwing up and pushing directly to github this time :) 09:45:28 all this new-fangled github stuff is sorcery to me 09:46:25 why are we still not pushing to github though? 09:46:28 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-702-gb3a3556 (34) 09:47:02 <|amethyst> Zaba: because everyone has to switch at the same time, or we will get divergences 09:47:16 <|amethyst> and doy's gitorious->github mirrorer has to be shut down 09:47:36 is there a way to turn off write access to gitorious before they do it for us? 09:47:44 <|amethyst> hm, good question 09:50:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:51:08 03noxdominus02 07* 0.17-a0-702-gecb00c8: Update unident.txt 10(66 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ecb00c85ad4b 09:51:08 03noxdominus02 07* 0.17-a0-703-gbffd9fb: Update backgrounds.txt 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bffd9fb32f07 09:51:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-705-g95aef39: Merge pull request #9 from noxdominus/patch-1 10(2 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95aef394845a 09:51:52 <|amethyst> Zaba: basically it's just a merge, with --no-ff so that you get a merge commit even if it's up-to-date 09:52:16 ah 09:52:34 <|amethyst> Zaba: I'm not sure whether it uses the commit hashes or the merge title to decide whether to close the request 09:52:49 <|amethyst> once we are fully switched to github, it's two clicks on the web site 09:53:43 <|amethyst> I accidentally did that yesterday :) 09:53:53 yeah, the button looks quite tempting 09:53:57 <|amethyst> but then pushed to gitorious immediately so it didn't get overwritten 09:54:40 If one of you feels more like English literature than like coding: I urgently need better timer announcement messages for the oubliettes. Currently, it starts out with "You hear a faint moaning." And it gets worse from there :) 10:01:37 wow, it even works 10:02:29 <|amethyst> dpeg: hm, you're only using the 'ally' variable at level-building time, right? 10:02:43 yes 10:02:46 <|amethyst> ok, good 10:02:54 I am dead certain the code can be improved. 10:02:59 <|amethyst> that means you don't have to worry about making it persistent across save/reload 10:03:08 no, not at all, thank god 10:03:20 <|amethyst> I would test what happens when you generate all those uniques in the dungeon before entering the branch 10:03:34 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:03:46 <|amethyst> I guess nicest would be to remove them from the list of candidates before doing the random selection 10:04:12 |amethyst: yes, that is on the TODO 10:04:41 currently, you get a substitute (KMONS: @ = Sigmund , human) but that's not idel. 10:04:55 <|amethyst> I mean in the new version 10:05:06 <|amethyst> with place_ally 10:05:13 yes, I understand 10:05:30 I made gloves that brand unarmed attacks with random brand. 10:05:40 Well, unrandart gloves with randomly chosen brand. 10:05:55 |amethyst: ideally, the list of possible allies should be created dynamically: don't use uniques already generated, and take depth into account 10:07:14 <|amethyst> possibly could do something like 10:07:43 <|amethyst> local unique_ally_list = { "Sigmund", "Dowan", "Duvessa", "Pikel" } 10:07:52 <|amethyst> local ally_list = { "random" } 10:09:57 <|amethyst> for i,name in ipairs(unique_ally_list) do 10:10:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:10:24 <|amethyst> if not you.uniques(name) then 10:10:42 <|amethyst> table.insert(ally_list, name) 10:10:45 <|amethyst> end 10:10:46 <|amethyst> end 10:11:09 yeah, it'd be hard to avoid not having some kind of starting list 10:11:30 gammafunk: starting list is ok 10:12:50 -!- Nerem has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:13:02 is there a way to print a lua variable in the game, as a message? 10:13:12 <|amethyst> crawl.mpr(var) 10:13:18 crawl.mpr("value: " .. myvar) 10:13:21 <|amethyst> if it's not a string already you'd want 10:13:22 thx 10:13:25 <|amethyst> crawl.mpr(tostring(var)) 10:13:26 it is a string 10:13:30 back in a bit 10:14:17 hey i have a question about ash's skill boost 10:14:19 !tell dpeg see !vault kennysheep_goblin_castle for an example similar to what you're doing 10:14:19 gammafunk: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 10:14:56 !tell dpeg that approach randomly chooses from unseen uniques with different weights for choices 10:14:56 gammafunk: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 10:14:56 is it intended that the skill boost is larger for skill with bad aptitudes than for skill with good aptitude? 10:16:35 Hydras don't burn with ignite posion 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9653 by nubinia 10:17:34 <|amethyst> Kolbur: is it? 10:18:30 for example i have 15.4(19.4) Hexes at apt +4 and 5.5(10.0) Translocations at apt -2 10:21:05 <|amethyst> I suspect that's because 15.4 -> 19.4 is a greater amount of XP than 5.5 -> 10.0 10:21:22 just trying to figure out how exactly the boost works, it doesn't look like a flat boost 10:21:57 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:22:00 <|amethyst> skill_points += (you.skill_boost[sk] * 2 + 1) * piety_rank() 10:22:00 <|amethyst> * max(you.skill(sk, 10, true), 1) * species_apt_factor(sk); 10:22:26 <|amethyst> which looks a little weird 10:22:43 <|amethyst> it's using your skill *level* to determine how much to boost, but the boost is in terms of skill *points* 10:23:29 <|amethyst> but aptitude shouldn't matter (the * species_apt_factor) 10:23:43 |amethyst: after adding DEBUG_STATISTICS, is just adding CFLAGS+=-DDEBUG_STATISTCS the way I add this to my make command? 10:24:01 that is, after I've added this define to the code at appropriate places 10:24:12 that means the boost is amount of skill points depending on the actual skill lvl? 10:24:38 <|amethyst> gammafunk: modifying the makefile or adding the flag on the command line? 10:24:44 command line 10:24:53 since I assume we'd not want a new target or anything 10:25:03 <|amethyst> gammafunk: make EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS 10:25:09 ok 10:25:20 <|amethyst> gammafunk: (the _L means "don't use this on contribs, only Crawl itself") 10:25:32 gotcha 10:26:01 I gather my CFLAGS approach might also work, but this is a more appropriate var 10:26:46 <|amethyst> Kolbur: yeah, making it a weird nonlinear thing 10:27:11 <|amethyst> Kolbur: setting up my magic skills at level 1, 2, 3, ..., 12 10:27:23 <|amethyst> Kolbur: with a "partially bound" boost to magic 10:28:18 <|amethyst> Kolbur: I get 1 -> 2.7, 2 -> 4.2, 3 -> 5.5, 4 -> 6.8, 5 -> 7.9, 6 -> 9.1, 7 -> 10.1, 8 -> 11.0, 9 -> 11.9, 10 -> 12.8, 11 -> 13.7, 12 -> 14.6 10:28:18 it actually looks like it's close to give a flat bonus of skill levels but not quite 10:28:53 <|amethyst> so it peaks around level 6 10:29:09 ok thx 10:29:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:29:38 <|amethyst> TIL 10:29:45 ldf (L27 NaWz) (Zig:25) 10:29:53 <|amethyst> !crashlog ldf 10:30:09 i tried to enter new zig 10:30:29 <|amethyst> ??is sequell down 10:30:58 22. ldf, XL27 NaWz, T:241824 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/ldf/crash-ldf-20150419-152944.txt 10:30:58 I don't have a page labeled is_sequell_down in my learndb. 10:31:20 <|amethyst> ldf: oh, that's the animate dead thing 10:31:33 <|amethyst> ldf: should be fixed already 10:31:38 <|amethyst> ldf: I updated while you were playing 10:31:50 <|amethyst> just accept the save transfer 10:31:51 Hopefully these gloves work on first go because I can't be arsed to compile stuff again 10:32:00 ok, thanks 10:33:19 it surprises me that header guards are still a thing that we have to use in 2015 10:33:47 http://i.imgur.com/b2mlOfR.png oops 10:34:03 or is that handled by modern options for gcc/clang and only used for helping out older versions? 10:34:07 gammafunk, well, #pragma once is a thing, but it's not standard 10:34:08 Just inscription is bugged though, the gloves work fine. 10:34:29 Zaba: achieving the same effect with #pragma, you mean? 10:35:02 #pragma once is a widely-supported way of telling the compiler to not include the file it's in more than once 10:35:03 gammafunk: cool, many thanks 10:35:04 dpeg: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:35:11 but most things don't use it 10:35:34 Zaba: yeah, it just seems odd that we're writing these lines in every .h file we make 10:35:52 <|amethyst> that's C++ for you 10:35:56 !messages 10:35:57 (1/2) gammafunk said (21m 38s ago): see !vault kennysheep_goblin_castle for an example similar to what you're doing 10:35:59 it's not for me!!!! 10:36:08 <|amethyst> C++ is for everybody 10:36:32 well, yes, it's extremely archaic and shouldn't have been let out of the '70s 10:36:36 let's rewrite crawl in rust :) 10:36:41 dpeg: yeah, you might need to go with a similar approach, build up a list and use crawl.random_element 10:36:49 <|amethyst> but, yes, it would be an incompatible change to make the #pragma once behaviour the default 10:37:02 <|amethyst> so one can only hope that the standard adds something similar 10:37:22 dpeg: perhaps you don't need the weights for this, but you could use weights by depths 10:37:31 since you talked about this earlier 10:38:07 <|amethyst> as far as standardising it, there's also the question of what is "the same file" 10:38:10 gammafunk: yes. Not sure I will achieve that today... just want to get functionality for ally-depending final effects (place a scythe when Sigmund, have Dowan when Duvessa etc.) 10:38:23 <|amethyst> since the C++ standard can't assume Unix or even a real OS 10:38:24 |amethyst: one more thing, that means the skill aptitude doesn't get applied to the skill point bonus, correct! 10:38:34 ? 10:38:45 dpeg: sure, there's no rush, this should be an easy branch to rebase as you come back to it 10:38:58 <|amethyst> Kolbur: it was right there in what I pasted: * species_apt_factor(sk) 10:38:59 well we'll merge master but the merges should be pretty easy 10:39:16 <|amethyst> Kolbur: that's why it's the same skill level boost regardless of aptitude 10:39:34 ah ok, thx again :) 10:39:57 http://i.imgur.com/xpEVM0L.png 10:40:30 <|amethyst> (the species_apt_factor is 0.5 for +4 and 2 for -4) 10:40:50 <|amethyst> (not the other way around as one might expect; that's why it's * instead of / there) 10:41:49 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:42:07 Are bone dragons supposed to be able to stand on top of teleport traps 10:42:13 no 10:42:38 @??bone_dragon 10:42:38 bone dragon (15D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 157-202 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 30, 2009(claw), 2007(trample) | 07undead, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3696 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 10:42:51 stand on top in what sense? 10:43:02 be on the same tile as a teleport trap 10:43:07 walk on them but not trigger the trap? 10:43:28 seems like placing dudes following you down the stairs ignores tele traps 10:43:45 possibly 10:43:48 http://i.imgur.com/znmkGoo.png 10:44:24 I still need to work in holy/unholy/cursed things, plus make item prompt for distortion wield/unwield. 10:44:31 But otherwise it is working rather nicely. 10:45:47 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:58 <|amethyst> Fusha: hm 10:46:02 <|amethyst> %git 1a204a1f 10:46:02 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1326-g1a204a1: Make monsters trigger traps when climbing stairs (7749) 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1a204a1fbfdc 10:46:31 Seems like a "no" then 10:46:52 <|amethyst> they're *supposed* to trigger them since 0.15 10:46:56 that blue stuff in their chest must be a stasis field 10:46:57 <|amethyst> but that could be buggy 10:47:42 <|amethyst> Fusha: worked for me 10:47:47 :o 10:47:49 <|amethyst> _You climb downwards. The teleport trap disappears. The bone dragon disappears! 10:48:01 Fusha: how were these bone dragons placed? 10:48:22 as in, where they level spawns, or god wrath? 10:48:39 <|amethyst> trampling also does the same thing if you were standing on the trap 10:48:43 <|amethyst> You stumble backwards! The teleport trap disappears. 10:48:43 <|amethyst> _The bone dragon disappears! 10:48:58 I forgot to mention they're ally bone dragons 10:49:03 Yred giften one to me 10:49:31 http://a.pomf.se/wkruqi.png http://a.pomf.se/ltjlgr.png 10:50:31 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:50:58 I'll file a mantis thingy 10:51:31 dbg-maps.cc:120: error: undefined reference to 'objstat_record_monster(monster*)' 10:51:43 |amethyst: any guess as to why I get this at link time? 10:51:54 in dbg-maps as well as startup.cc 10:52:02 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:52:10 Ally monsters don't trigger teleport traps when climbing stairs 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9654 by Fusha 10:52:27 <|amethyst> I still cannot reproduce that 10:52:46 <|amethyst> including with a trap several tiles away and enough allies that they will follow onto that square 10:53:02 <|amethyst> hm 10:53:10 <|amethyst> I was trying with downstairs, let me see about upstairs 10:53:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:24 the objstat code doesn't have a link problem with the mapstat functions... 10:53:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: did you move objstat_record_monster out of the #ifdef DEBUG_DIAGNOSTICS that it is in? 10:54:04 <|amethyst> gammafunk: in dbg-scan.cc 10:54:15 yeah all those should be in dbg-objstat.cc now 10:54:18 let me double check 10:54:25 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:54:40 <|amethyst> gammafunk: and you added that file to Makefile.obj ? 10:54:43 yep 10:54:49 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:50 and dbg-objstat.o is built 10:54:51 !tell wheals oh, I forgot extern existed 10:54:52 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:54:52 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 10:56:51 maybe I should make a patch and stare at it 10:56:55 !tell wheals also, tbh, I could probably turn transform() back into a bool func... just need to clean up some lorc code (!?) 10:56:56 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 10:57:02 * PleasingFungus stares at gammafunk ominously. 10:57:03 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I can stare at it too :) 10:57:07 yeah :) 10:57:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: IMO just move spret_type to enum.h 10:57:47 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it's not like it's likely to change 10:58:21 more things in enum.h!? 10:58:27 I weep... 10:58:57 anyway, I think this is fixable 10:58:58 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and then maybe godabil.h wouldn't need to include spl-cast.h 10:59:03 heh 10:59:12 like wheals was hinting at, couldn't you use an extern? 10:59:57 <|amethyst> extern? 11:00:14 <|amethyst> you'd need to write something like enum spret_type : int; 11:00:22 <|amethyst> but I wouldn't do that 11:00:30 <|amethyst> well 11:00:44 <|amethyst> I guess in this case it's probably fine, since spret_type isn't going to grow past the size of an int 11:00:58 doh, wth is this emacs?! 11:01:03 -ï»¿ 11:01:03 + 11:01:22 maybe it added (or removed) the BOM? 11:01:32 <|amethyst> this is the msvc project? 11:01:35 yes 11:01:43 it said it was in DOS mode 11:01:53 but why on earth did it only change this line? 11:01:53 <|amethyst> that file shouldn't have a bom 11:01:56 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:02:02 windows tools love leaving a BOM in utf-8 files 11:02:05 <|amethyst> but maybe it added one 11:02:06 a completely pointless one, yes 11:02:23 <|amethyst> or perhaps it removed the carriage return? 11:02:28 it still shows the ^M 11:02:31 in the diff 11:02:33 at the line end 11:02:53 the only difference I see in the diff between the two lines 11:03:00 is the - or + at the first char :/ 11:03:13 <|amethyst> I'd have expected diff to show the bom too 11:03:35 !source temperature_effect 11:03:35 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l8105 11:03:40 it changed that xml line in both project files, noidea why 11:03:42 <|amethyst> run od -c on those lines? 11:03:46 <|amethyst> of the diff 11:03:52 !source temperature 11:03:52 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l7928 11:04:05 gah! but not in shell mode! 11:04:08 hrm 11:04:39 LANG=C od -c ... 11:05:16 the file does have a BOM in the repository, for what it's worth 11:05:23 <|amethyst> oh, it does? 11:05:36 I just discovered some secret tech 11:05:37 <|amethyst> oh, so it does 11:05:41 wow this od output is...difficult to navigate 11:07:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:07:21 - 11:07:21 +^M 11:07:28 <|amethyst> yep 11:07:28 is what git diff shows 11:07:30 <|amethyst> emacs stripped off the bom 11:07:34 what is a bom 11:07:41 why was it set us up 11:07:42 byte order mark 11:07:46 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_order_mark 11:07:54 <|amethyst> %git :/BOM 11:07:55 07ontoclasm02 * 0.14-a0-2431-g1d11b85: Drop the BOM 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d11b85fce16 11:08:01 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^{/BOM}^^{/BOM} 11:08:02 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-2979-gb6a86b3: What do you mean I can't say "BOM" on an airplane? 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6a86b3bbb58 11:08:05 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM} 11:08:05 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-1677-g213b1b4: Let checkwhite eradicate BOMs it finds. 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/213b1b475fc0 11:08:13 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM} 11:08:14 07|amethyst02 * 0.12-a0-1657-g47f8aa0: Use logical punctuation quoting. 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/47f8aa00355a 11:08:20 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM} 11:08:20 07edlothiol02 * 0.12-a0-496-ga6e37bb: Fix BOMs in Webtiles rc files (#6225). 10(2 years, 7 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6e37bbe430d 11:08:22 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM}^^{/BOM} 11:08:24 07kilobyte02 * 0.8.0-a0-3800-gcb38198: Allow lua files with a BOM -- including Windowsish 16 bit encodings. 10(4 years, 4 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb38198de7c8 11:08:31 windows inconsistently adds or removes them from utf8 files, despite the fact that they are meaningless in utf8; older windows (and windows programs) use an initial BOM to detect a utf8 vs. code page file 11:08:32 dang |amethyst 11:08:36 you think a lot about BOMs 11:08:45 oh, and checkwhite ignores these files? 11:09:08 <|amethyst> yes 11:09:16 <|amethyst> mostly because of the carriage return thing 11:09:26 <|amethyst> but it specifically does 11:09:30 <|amethyst> next if /\.(vcproj|vcproj\.user|vcxproj|vcxproj\.filters)$/i; 11:09:52 so, should I remove BOM? 11:09:59 <|amethyst> go for it 11:10:05 <|amethyst> it shouldn't matter either way 11:10:13 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:21 <|amethyst> the worst that happens is, the next person who uses visual studio to manipulate the project re-adds it 11:11:08 http://sprunge.us/Tgfc?diff 11:11:16 is my patch with the linking problem 11:11:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:12:09 <|amethyst> gammafunk: dbg-objstat.cc has 11:12:14 <|amethyst> #ifdef DEBUG_DIAGNOSTICS 11:12:24 Do I absolutely have to create a Tavern thread when adding a suggestion to the dev wiki 11:12:33 |amethyst: even in the second patch? 11:12:44