00:01:04 cell-shaded, comic booky style tiles sounds aesthetically cool 00:02:25 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 00:02:52 maybe bh has a branch for it??? 00:04:25 !lm . 00:04:25 13846. [2015-04-16 04:33:42] gammafunk the Severer (L12 MiBe of Trog) fell down a shaft to Lair:5 on turn 7726. (Lair:3) 00:04:34 this one can make it... 00:04:43 what's the turn goal? 00:04:57 I guess just anywhere in the 30s, but I'd take low 40s 00:05:01 I don't know what I'm doing 00:05:13 -!- Maud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:05:16 -!- shummie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:06:28 !hs PleasingFungus 00:06:29 384. PleasingFungus the Champion of Chaos (L27 MiNe of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-09-29 18:22:19, with 23422719 points after 64049 turns and 8:40:36. 00:06:40 not bad 00:07:04 that guy found bloodbane on like d:5 00:07:09 just lyin around 00:08:04 !hs PleasingFungus -log 00:08:04 384. PleasingFungus, XL27 MiNe, T:64049: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20140929-182219.txt 00:08:19 hahaha I honestly thought I was exaggerating 00:08:57 nice crown 00:09:04 not sure if you were around for that having Hunger 00:09:08 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:18 -!- ly^ has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:09:23 -!- anubiann00b has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:09:29 my goodness the unrands 00:09:57 I was, I think, just barely 00:10:29 check out that haste % 00:10:37 with magering on 00:10:41 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-628-g54c4a4d (34) 00:10:44 and +int armour! 00:10:52 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:11:37 -!- Finerminer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:11:54 fantastic title 00:12:09 I love makhleb invoc titles 00:12:27 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:13:12 what??! 00:13:14 @??cerebov 00:13:14 Cerebov (05&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 650 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 60 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 22535 | Sp: fire storm (8d17 / 8d16) [06!sil], iron shot (3d36) [06!sil], haste [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: norm.. 00:13:20 i'm so confused 00:13:54 @??geryon 00:13:54 Geryon (03&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 300 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 35(reach) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 4427 | Sp: sum.hell beast | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 00:14:33 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:17:26 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:04 dang, didn't realize cere has so much ac 00:19:10 @??antaeus 00:19:10 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 11elec+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 17142 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 00:19:16 heh, more than antaeus 00:20:39 !lg * recent ikiller=antaeus|cerebov s=ikiller 00:20:40 108 games for * (recent ikiller=antaeus|cerebov): 64x Antaeus, 44x Cerebov 00:21:37 random question 00:22:02 random answer 00:22:10 !rng yes no maybe 00:22:10 The RNG chooses: yes. 00:22:19 !rng yes no xom 00:22:19 The RNG chooses: xom. 00:22:28 even if scoring remains based on turns rather than aut, is the haste spell still going to be removed? 00:22:39 dang it, Lightli 00:23:09 if the answer was certainly 'yes', then it would already be removed 00:23:18 since it's not technically challenging 00:23:21 hence: uncertainty 00:23:23 (also wouldn't an easy solution to breadswinging be just making a weapon swing onto a tile without a monster take 10 aut no matter what?) 00:23:47 my invis monster tech 00:26:25 (or to keep said tech alive make it take a maximum of 10 aut, so that blindly swinging a quick blade at min-delay remains at 3 aut but blindly swinging the dark maul at 0 skill onto nothing stay at 10 aut) 00:27:15 (I guess the rationale would be the player character not going through with the full swing if it took long enough because it realized no one was there for it to hit) 00:27:37 then I guess I'll just have to pick up piles of bolts and use my xbox heal tech 00:27:48 xbox heal tech wow that's good 00:28:18 never thought of that 00:28:39 I blame PleasingFungus for it 00:28:41 Lightli: secret buff for fighitn unseen horrors 00:28:45 (with dark maul) 00:28:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:57 The build is still failing. (master - 54c4a4d #2295 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/58698625 00:28:57 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:29:15 still.... 00:29:22 good. consistency 00:30:29 I don't care if it fails! Let it break! 00:30:34 * gammafunk flips nicolae's table 00:30:41 how do you feel about crashes 00:31:08 yeah ranged weapons do kind of hurt it, but at least it would be less efficient for turn count (since you'd have to pick up a ranged weapon, then ammo for the weapon (and enough ammo to fire it until you were fully healed, so that would probably be about 3-4 turns of picking up ammo minimum), and then once you were done you'd have to gather the remaining ammo up (1 turn minimum) and possibly gather more 00:31:43 it doesn't really solve the problem, Lightli 00:31:52 true 00:31:54 that sounds more tedious than just breadswinging 00:32:37 One proposal that might work would be to cap the regen you receive per turn at just 10 aut's worth 00:33:26 that's a nerf to regen and slow actions in general though 00:33:28 dark maul VS nerf :v 00:33:41 http://sprunge.us/ePjA Subject: [PATCH 1/3] Remove cost scaling from Potion Petition. Subject: [PATCH 2/3] Drop gold for corpseless monsters under Gozag. 00:33:56 http://sprunge.us/CQOB Subject: [PATCH 3/3] Upsize major demons. 00:34:22 (also still wondering about pan lord rf/rc calculation, if not also the SInv patch) 00:35:38 hrm, what does this achieve, making them giant? 00:35:46 aside from being a fan of gales nerf 00:35:47 consistency? 00:36:02 well I don't know what's exactly consistent about it 00:36:12 honestly gammafunk's regen cap idea probably would work; you could always just give the dark maul +regen to make up for the nerf and everything else hits at least 10 aut at min delay save for sniper 00:36:13 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:36:19 @??the_royal_jelly 00:36:19 royal jelly (08J) | Spd: 14 | HD: 21 | HP: 230 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 5008(acid:7d3), 3008(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 08blind, 12drown | Vul: 11silver | XP: 14176 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 00:36:49 @??seraph 00:36:49 seraph (13A) | Spd: 15 | HD: 25 | HP: 187-229 | AC/EV: 19/19 | Dam: 50, 20 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(160), 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 11269 | Sp: hunting cry [11!AM, 08breath], sum.holies [11!AM], injury bond [06!sil], cleansing flame [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [06!sil], minor healing (2d12.. 00:37:09 (and you could always special-case slow effects to make it a maximum of 15 aut of regen a turn to avoid nerfing statue form) 00:37:27 *i.e. being slowed or being in statue form 00:37:56 gammafunk: more money for gozagites, obv! 00:38:12 -!- Jaxry has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:38:34 oh, re patch no 2 00:38:51 I dunno, giant means no fan effect 00:39:03 (the difference in gold is minimal, I just happened to think of it while doing patch #2) 00:39:28 (at the very least Antaeus should probably be giant size :v) 00:39:30 yeah you don't care about gold by the time you fight those 00:39:36 @??antaeus 00:39:36 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 11elec+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 17142 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 00:39:43 oh 00:39:44 he already is 00:39:53 I don't think the amount of hp you regen when swinging weapons is very significant unless you're breadswinging. 00:40:05 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:30 you could honestly remove regen when taking actions other than moving or waiting & I don't think it'd be a huge nerf. (not suggesting this, just saying.) 00:40:41 i was just thinking that, actually 00:41:01 well if you have high regen it's pretty significant 00:41:08 the aut from those other actions 00:41:22 yeah 00:41:27 PleasingFungus: troll with TLA would cry 00:41:29 as for how huge a nerf, yeah it'd not be the end of the world I'm sure 00:41:34 aka my reason for living 00:41:45 would be a noticable VS nerf though 00:42:00 VS nerfs!!!!!! 00:42:06 chequers: we gave them stacking regen, and we can take it away........ 00:42:19 ha! ha! ha! 00:43:19 I'll give the moon troll speech lines like, "On the moon, puny earthling, we still get regen from our attack aut!" 00:43:22 etc 00:44:15 "On the the moon, puny earthlink Mountain Dwarves are still a playable race! And Gargoyles of Yred!" 00:44:19 first they came for my stackable evocables, and I said nothing... 00:44:20 *earthling 00:44:31 you could always just special case breadswinging and accept the inconsistency 00:44:40 but you can't. 00:44:43 we just established that you can't. 00:44:44 oh 00:44:48 rip that plan 00:44:52 remember? crossbows? 00:44:55 yeah 00:44:59 PleasingFungus: meat swinging? would that work??? 00:45:12 surely I can swing something! 00:45:25 gotta find some way to swing it... 00:45:31 porridge swinging... 00:46:34 it's like a rock and a hard place 00:46:43 both aut scoring and turn scoring have issues 00:47:26 @??yak 00:47:26 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 28-48 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 203 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 00:47:50 hm, I wonder if this spell is secretly strong 00:48:07 summon yak? 00:48:11 what spell, Leda's? 00:48:22 yakstorm? 00:48:22 -!- Imosa has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0/20141127111547]] 00:48:26 yaknado? 00:48:52 yakocalypse? 00:49:01 is this a pizza tornado clone 00:49:02 Summon Greater Yak 00:49:43 -!- Dfqq has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:50:11 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:13 new ignite poison 00:50:18 summon greater yak would be pretty good, tho. 00:50:36 I shot a needle at a sleeping yak, then I cast ignite poison and the yak died instantly 00:53:50 hm, apply_area_cloud is in spl-util but not spl-clouds 00:53:51 weird 00:54:06 ignite poison is a level 5 dual school spell 00:54:19 it being able to 1-shot a yak isn't that out of the question 00:54:49 new!ignite poison is level 3 3-school 00:55:42 possibly it should go up to level 4 00:56:13 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:56:32 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:40 ??ensorcelled hibernation 00:58:41 ensorcelled hibernation[1/3]: Can hibernate various monsters, making them very good targets for stabbing them to your hearts content. Also, it can be resisted several times. After you successfully hibernate a critter, it will resist further hibernation for a long time (might be around 20 turns). Doesn't work against cold-res -- try confuse instead. 00:58:47 this is level 2 2-school and 1-shots a yak 00:58:58 also meph but that does make noise 00:59:18 true 00:59:29 !learn del chequers_todo 00:59:29 Deleted chequers todo[1/1]: automate branch management, webtiles-UI reform, SSO, milestone rotation 00:59:36 I will aim at first to make this OP, and then, if necessary, apply nerfs. 01:00:02 isn't 1-shotting a yak from a poisoned needle stab about what you would expect from it anyway? poisoned needle stab applies a huge amount of poison i hear 01:00:46 it applies 18 damage worth of poison over 18 turns 01:00:56 yaks have about 38 hp 01:01:00 are youse devs using pull requests on github now? or should I still open issues on mantis for patches 01:01:13 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:01:24 (the one I one-shotted rolled slightly low on mhp; I did about 35 damage, iirc) 01:01:44 chequers: github isn't currently the primary repo :( 01:01:45 not yet 01:01:50 -!- Guest38664 is now known as myp 01:01:51 pull requests might work anyway, idk 01:02:02 level 3 spell doing 35 damage with 2 turns sounds pretty balanced 01:02:03 ??stone arrow 01:02:04 stone arrow[1/1]: A level 3 earth/conjuration spell. Found in the book of Geomancy, starting book for EEs. Does 3d11 dmg at max power. Does massive damage from ghosts for some reason. 01:02:15 I like the last sentence 01:02:34 03chequers02 07[pull/1] * 0.16-a0-3897-g0efcc2b: more save login work 10(11 days ago, 4 files, 20+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0efcc2bf2be5 01:02:51 it was more noticeable back when player stone arrow did about 2/3rds of the damage it does now 01:03:15 low-level ghosts would hit you with stone arrow and do more damage than the player maximum 01:03:19 heh 01:03:26 -!- ssteam has quit [Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 01:04:08 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05:00 it still does unexpectedly huge damage from monsters though; more than IMB 01:05:32 -!- Maud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06:40 @??erica 01:06:40 Erica (06@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 64 | AC/EV: 2/11 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 929 | Sp: b.venom (3d14), mystic blast (3d14), invisibility, confuse, slow, teleport self [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:06:45 hah 01:06:52 @?? gargoyle spells:stone_arrow.100.magical;mystic_blast.100.magical 01:06:53 Unknown spell name: 'mystic blast' in 'stone_arrow.100.magical;mystic_blast.100.magical' 01:06:56 i guess Cheibriados reports off github 01:07:07 @?? gargoyle spells:stone_arrow.100.magical,mystic_blast.100.magical 01:07:07 gargoyle (159) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 20-35 | AC/EV: 18/6 | Dam: 20 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 415 | Sp: stone arrow (3d12) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:07:26 @?? erica spells:stone_arrow.100.magical,mystic_blast.100.magical 01:07:26 Erica (06@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 64 | AC/EV: 2/11 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 929 | Sp: stone arrow (3d15) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:07:42 [PATCH] Buff Gozag 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9642 by chequers 01:07:42 @?? erica spells:stone_arrow.100.magical;iskenderun's_mystic_blast.100.magical 01:07:42 Erica (06@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 64 | AC/EV: 2/11 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 929 | Sp: stone arrow (3d15) [06!sil], mystic blast (3d14) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:13:53 New branch created: pull/4 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/4 01:13:53 03chequers02 07[pull/4] * 0.17-a0-629-gaf4ba09: Simplify pan lord rF/rC calculation. 10(27 hours ago, 1 file, 38+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af4ba0933f2f 01:13:53 03chequers02 07[pull/4] * 0.17-a0-630-gd8ca745: Remove SInv from some pan lords. 10(27 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d8ca745729ab 01:13:53 New branch created: pull/5 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/5 01:13:53 03chequers02 07[pull/5] * 0.17-a0-629-g3307af5: Remove cost scaling from Potion Petition. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3307af569e69 01:13:53 03chequers02 07[pull/5] * 0.17-a0-630-g65e01a3: Drop gold for corpseless monsters under Gozag. 10(83 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65e01a339b5f 01:13:57 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 01:14:40 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:18:40 -!- fazisi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:18:40 fear my pull requests 01:19:39 -!- Silas is now known as fazisi 01:21:46 -!- Siegurt1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:28 -!- Siegurt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:23:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:27:31 -!- FoxySlunt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:32:12 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32:16 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:34:42 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:47 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:44:40 -!- Broken has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:49:07 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:56:46 -!- sk3 is now known as ktgrey 01:59:58 -!- schisto has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:00:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:10:58 huh? some panlords used to not have sinv (10% chance i think) and that was changed so they all have it 02:11:53 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=2c4a4c3f1545e532260861d348585ed7c0d6920d 02:12:01 so i dont think that will go through 02:12:58 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:19:49 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:22:10 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-628-g54c4a4d (34) 02:24:59 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:16 I don't agree with the justification for making some lack sinv, certainly 02:28:56 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:33:50 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:35:04 -!- aarujn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:38:03 -!- Siegurt1 has left ##crawl-dev 02:39:34 wasn't the justification for giving all pan lords sinv just "90% is basically 100% anyway oh and also it didn't display correctly in their description" 02:48:41 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51:17 chequers trying to make me not hate gozag when I feel forced to try it again, I see 02:53:29 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54:39 Sar (L27 DsSu) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 4347: ASSERT failed: shape of 0 out of range MON_SHAPE_HUMANOID (1) .. 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Use !messages to read it. 06:01:20 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:43 <|amethyst> !source docs/develop/save_compatibility.txt 06:01:44 Can't find docs/develop/save_compatibility.txt. 06:01:53 <|amethyst> !source crawl-ref/docs/develop/save_compatibility.txt 06:01:54 Can't find crawl-ref/docs/develop/save_compatibility.txt. 06:02:02 <|amethyst> hm 06:04:40 <|amethyst> %git 06:04:41 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-628-g54c4a4d: Don't multiply gold for Gozag explosions (9641) 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54c4a4d66841 06:04:44 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 06:04:47 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-627-g5cb7d3e: Add nicolae to the credits. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cb7d3eeca84 06:04:50 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^^ 06:04:51 07nicolae02 {wheals} * 0.17-a0-626-g763bd81: update spellbook definition syntax to not conflict with shop definition 10(12 days ago, 8 files, 17+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/763bd81fc481 06:06:20 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:11:49 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:12:27 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:31 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:13 http://i.imgur.com/4CGtnjE.png 06:24:37 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:02 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:40:14 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:10 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:13 !tell wheals that looks pretty reasonable to me, at a glance 06:52:13 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let wheals know. 06:58:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:04:35 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:08:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:08:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:29:40 -!- StalinGULAG has quit [Client Quit] 07:36:21 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:38:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:40:41 gammafunk: my only current concern about introducing aut scoring is haste spell - I don't think Vp batform is actually much of a problem, and boots of running displease me (and others) in their current state anyway (0.9 move delay makes slow kiting feasible) 07:41:31 gammafunk: I do agree with PF that we shouldn't be going and making major gameplay changes like removing spells just so that scoring/interface will be nicer 07:42:47 gammafunk: however people have brought up removing Haste spell anyway independently of this, and I actually agree with that... as I've explained before, I think "rare haste spell" is my least favorite of the three options "no haste spell", "rare haste spell", "common haste spell" 07:49:31 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:51:26 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:51:42 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:55:07 -!- Lasty_1 is now known as Lasty 07:55:11 -!- Lasty is now known as Lasty_ 08:01:36 elliptic: I still think it's worth exploring "all characters have Haste as an (a)bility with a long XP cooldown, and all other sources of haste are removed aside from potion. 08:01:46 (and Xom/chaos) 08:04:02 Lasty_: that sounds sort of weird to me to give it to all characters intrinsically 08:04:44 but maybe something could be done, yeah... I certainly agree that we should rethink haste availability in general 08:05:18 wand of hasting is a fairly ridiculous item at the moment for sure 08:08:03 elliptic: The concept is that it'd be a kind of adrenaline rush that you would have limited access to. 08:08:08 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:08:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:08:44 elliptic: potentially we could adjust access based on species, too -- a species w/o the adrenaline rush (a)bility would be significantly different. 08:09:04 Arguably, it could be an ability that kicks in at a certain level or when you get enough of some skill, though skill breakpoints are out of fashion. 08:09:37 but in any case, rethinking haste availability (and invis availability) are both good things, imo 08:10:02 oh, has anyone nerfed invis in trunk yet as we discussed? 08:10:20 no 08:10:23 I haven't had a chance 08:10:32 It's still on my list 08:10:39 But if you get to it first, that's fine 08:11:23 I might go and do that sometime myself, yeah... though I'm not playing trunk for the time being while I am on streak so I'm not very useful for testing 08:11:57 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:03 !streak elliptic 08:12:04 elliptic has 26 consecutive wins (TeCj, KoEE, VSEE, NaNe, DDFi, KoCj, OpMo, CeCK, DgEE, MiCK, HEAs, VSFi, VSSk, GrTm, HOSk, HOGl, MiAK, HuAK, OgHu, DDAr, FoFE, MiWr, DrVM, SpWz, TrVM, GrBe), and can keep going! 08:12:07 wow 08:12:20 !lg elliptic tecj 08:12:21 2. elliptic the Ruinous (L27 TeCj of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-02-16 15:35:42, with 1582432 points after 75184 turns and 5:01:59. 08:12:32 two months of streak to the day 08:12:44 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:12:53 that's very impressive 08:13:11 Time for MuMo challenge, no gods, no magic, no body armour, no amulets, no evocables and certainly not hope. 6 runes of legend must be collected, ( abyssal, tomb, slime, silver, lairbranch, lairbranch2 ) 08:19:58 -!- sanka has quit [Changing host] 08:19:59 -!- bones__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:20:07 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:25 -!- abixa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 08:27:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:09 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:31:26 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:58 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:33:03 what invis nerf 08:34:52 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:37:12 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:06 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:23 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:40:37 it's a new ranged weapon 08:40:39 invis nerf 08:43:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:10 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:52:36 -!- sylnt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:54:32 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:55:06 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Client Quit] 08:57:58 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:59:19 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:22 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:04:17 -!- nightrise has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:04:25 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:50 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:06:07 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:08:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:54 -!- test2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:09:44 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:54 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16:36 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:02 hrm. as a gargoyle just got notified that kobold corpse produces inedible chunks. someone get something wrong with poison changes? 09:19:40 (shift-A seems to think Gr is still poison immune, unless that's a holdover from saved game) 09:19:41 no it's right, nobody at all can eat them anymore 09:19:49 except for ghouls 09:20:17 we'll see how things go 09:23:22 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:34 -!- Nobu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:26:52 haha, removing the commit hooks that send emails 09:27:00 "It's the perfect crime. How will they report it?" 09:34:31 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:37:00 -!- Kolbur has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:58 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:40:12 -!- Athaboros has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 09:43:59 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:49:20 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 09:54:42 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:56:21 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:58:33 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:43 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:00:26 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:36 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06:25 -!- Maud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09:01 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09:10 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:10:28 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:10:55 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:03 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 10:20:51 elliptic: maybe I'm not up to speed on the vp bat form costs...I guess you need to eat a lot of food to be able to use it? 10:20:55 ??bat_form 10:20:55 bat form[1/2]: An ability you get as a vampire at xl3. Grants minimum movement delay and gives a bonus to EV and Dex but cripples your Str. No spellcasting or doors. 10:21:35 -!- fishface has quit [Client Quit] 10:23:10 oh, it's the opposite 10:25:55 Made myself a fork while at it to push my silly changes. 10:27:01 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:04 yeah, bat form is basically the only reason i try to avoid being >satiated as vp 10:28:13 sprigganform on demand is useful 10:31:48 By the way, should seraphim be removed from enemy list that can spawn on orbrun if you worshipping good gods? It seems really strange how Shining One's forces would try to stop the champion of Shining One from claiming the orb. 10:32:43 did you know holies used to be neutral to followers of TSO and zin 10:33:17 except the xom-following abyss angels i guess 10:35:59 I know 10:36:17 I know, I just feel like it is very weird for them to try to stop the player 10:36:46 gammafunk: the difference with batform is that the interface is actually fine because it doesn't expire with time 10:36:56 no weirder than good god followers slaughtering holies (or vice versa) in general 10:36:58 gammafunk: you can just turn it on and use interlevel travel 10:37:11 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:37:18 elliptic: well, would you have a species modifier for vp? 10:37:19 gammafunk: and arguably you should _already_ be doing this to minimize piety decay and such 10:37:23 maybe you could add an adjustment to vp like you were planning for sp/na/fe/ce/te then 10:37:55 if necessary it could have an adjustment, yeah 10:38:12 without a species modifier, it makes the most poorly designed species in crawl really good for score, which doesn't make me very happy 10:38:31 gammafunk: I doubt it is that good for score compared with OP stuff like VS and DD still 10:39:22 since you really can't run around in batform all the time in dangerous places with everything chasing you 10:39:24 with that kind of move speed reduction at xl3, I think it likely would be 10:41:29 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:40 note that batform-hunger-level Vp also has slow healing 10:43:23 satiated vp doesn't have slow healing 10:43:27 (and it can use batform) 10:43:37 oh, right on the boundary? yeah maybe 10:44:07 anyway IMO this detail can be worked out and Vp can get a multiplier if we really are worried 10:44:26 mainly I just don't think the interface is that bad since you can interlevel travel in batform fine 10:44:30 can the multiplier be 0, and we remove Vp??? 10:44:33 the issue with haste is recasting it all the time 10:44:33 that's pretty much why i generally consider satiated "optimal" on vp 10:45:30 and bats can't quaff, can they 10:45:44 they can't 10:45:53 anyway I'm leaving now but my feeling about aut scoring is that it would be a good change if haste spell happens to meet with an accident at some point 10:46:30 but it shouldn't meet with an accident just for the sake of aut scoring 10:47:29 well this does introduce a lot of wrinkles (converting scores, changing the code, figuring out the multipliers, players getting used to the new system) 10:47:40 so if it's not even relevant enough to influence what happens to haste.... 10:47:49 also nobody playing not-spriggans 10:51:56 -!- namad8 has quit [] 10:52:59 wheals: you removed my green chunks!!! 10:53:56 rip 10:54:07 wait 10:54:19 you don't actually say what you did in the commit message wheals... 10:54:19 btw if we're sticking with that, can the corpses be marked somehow? (darkgrey for useless?) 10:54:30 oh crap 10:54:35 are they clean, or do said monsters not leave chunks or... 10:54:46 they leave inedible corpses now 10:54:57 but i just realised i broke the colouring, good catch geekosaur 10:55:27 wow, you wrote that paragraph but didn't say what the commit actually did 10:55:29 !source dat/defaults 10:55:31 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/defaults 10:55:50 I'm going to complain to your supervisor! 11:01:45 Bleh, getting braces-around-scalar-error for mon-data.h 11:02:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:04:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07:07 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:07:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:09 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:26 -!- zerkmund2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:26:00 And figured it just came because my monster implementations still had weights, bleh. 11:29:24 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:30:00 New stackable item autopickup behaivour shouldn't apply to red and darkgrey items 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9644 by Fusha 11:42:51 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:16 Alright, pushed all my changes to my fork, time to go for a walk. 11:44:33 -!- Blazinghand|Work has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:29 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/compare/master...floatRand:master 11:46:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:49:31 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55:27 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:58:38 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:04:11 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:22 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:44 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:52 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:08:21 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:10:24 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:11:56 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:52 sugabear (L16 VSFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 4347: ASSERT failed: shape of 0 out of range MON_SHAPE_HUMANOID (1) .. MON_SHAPE_MISC + 1 (23) (D:14) 12:18:27 -!- ekix has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:24:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:25:16 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-628-g54c4a4d (34) 12:27:20 !crashlog sugabear 12:27:21 1. sugabear, XL16 VSFi, T:25522 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sugabear/crash-sugabear-20150416-171536.txt 12:29:15 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:29:29 -!- bittercup has quit [Client Quit] 12:35:36 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:39:26 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:23 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:42:43 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:46:48 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:47:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:22 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:52:08 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:53:08 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:53:45 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:00:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:01:12 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:40 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:05:04 I got idea for god that inflicts player with dimension lock, but grants resistances to banishment and gives out mass abjuration/dimension locking enemies with melee attacks. God of spacetime, really tired of all those warpers ruining it. 13:05:10 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:05 floatRand: dimension lock? 13:07:18 Basically doesn't allow you to blink or tele. 13:07:25 so... -tele but also rBanish 13:08:04 <|amethyst> the benefits sound marginal 13:08:52 I gotta see how I can balance it out, those are just some abilities that came with first. 13:09:19 Like access to permaflight etc. 13:11:56 permaflight? don't see how that's beneficial 13:12:51 <|amethyst> hopefully you'd be able to turn it off 13:12:58 yeah 13:13:18 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:19 I'm having a hard time in V:$ due to dragonform granting flight and also there are titans 13:13:36 <|amethyst> but still, it's a bunch of weak benefits with medium-strong penalties 13:13:36 I don't want to see how bad it would be if I didn't have the dragonform bonus HP 13:13:36 Well, "permaflight", you can obviously turn it off. It would help a lot navigating some areas as non-flying races without learning flight 13:14:41 you could like... give out slaying bonuses or something 13:14:44 flight isn't that necessary for non-flying races 13:15:07 <|amethyst> no idea how to balance it, but what abould an ability that prevented creatures from moving? 13:15:16 high piety, checks HD? 13:16:10 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:28 I was actually thinking of something like timestop 13:19:12 so basically sanctuary but it also prevents enemies from moving 13:19:12 <|amethyst> I was thinking just movement 13:19:12 <|amethyst> not attacking or spellcasting or anything like that 13:19:12 typically you can't attack or cast spells meaningfully under timestop (at least under D&D3.5 rules 13:19:12 ) 13:19:12 Yeah, I was thinking that enemies stopped would also get invulnerability. 13:19:12 But you could move through them 13:19:12 ( swapping positions ) 13:19:12 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:25 it's basically blink but it costs more turns 13:20:06 -!- Blazinghand|Work has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:49 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:33:24 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 13:34:20 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:30 -!- twzt_ is now known as twzt 13:42:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:44:57 -!- aarujn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:21 -!- Blazinghand|Work has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:03 The bolt hits the giant spore but does no damage._A ballistomycete grows in the wake of the giant spore. You shoot a bolt._The bolt hits the giant spore but does no damage. You shoot a bolt._The bolt hits the giant spore but does no damage. 13:53:35 is there any reason why SH+ isn't a randart property? 13:53:45 or an ego 13:54:43 +AC and +EV used to be randart properties, they were removed in 0.8 13:55:34 ah 13:56:19 I never actually realized that :v 13:59:41 You know, one of the things that always comes up when "remove all chunk-eating" comes up, is "but the spellcasting hunger????" Why don't we just reduce the spellcasting hunger (just decrease both the max hunger induced and the discount given by spellcasting/int, so it takes the same amount of skill, but the whole thing is like halved or something) and then just get rid of chunks altogether, if rods are still too hunger inducing sca 14:00:32 I mean I guess we lose out on weird mutagenic corpse eating play, but how significant is that? 14:01:18 i dont think spell hunger is even very meaningful for spriggans right now 14:01:26 berder is just insane 14:01:43 Having played one recently, it is. 14:02:01 since when is dumb insane 14:02:33 have you seen his wiki guide 14:02:45 the deen one? 14:03:09 If there's something with the word 'guide' attached I don't read it :) 14:03:21 i mean yeah spell hunger makes *some* difference but you have to cast an awful lot of high-hunger spells before you actually get to the point where running out of permafood is a danger 14:04:02 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:37 Well, I had to stop to eat food twice while trying to petrify a hydra in the lair at 44% with the SpEE I was playing, it took more than the usual number of casts, but it was definitely something I couldn't do regularly. 14:05:38 I've never come close to running out of food and I'm blowing through it with dragon form/cblink 14:06:03 but I'm not a spriggan 14:06:17 The thing I've noticed is that it doesn't happen after a certain point. 14:06:30 -!- nikheizen has left ##crawl-dev 14:06:41 It's really only a problem when you're casting level 4-6 spells and you're like XL 8-14 14:07:01 Once you get past some mysterious hump, it stops being a problem (at least for me) 14:07:12 well for poison chunks specifically I find it very hard to believe it makes even a significant difference 14:07:13 Maybe that's the point at which I've trained enough spellcasting, I dunno. 14:07:23 right, I wasn't having trouble until I started doing Lair (and survived 3 ghosts on L:1...) 14:07:39 since there are tons of clean chunks everywhere there are poison chunks, except for spider and *maybe* snake 14:07:43 and you aren't doing those at xl8 14:07:51 Well, I'm suggesting removing all chunks everywhere. 14:07:53 I do both of those at XL18 14:08:02 yes that would be good 14:08:03 minmay: I end up eating a lot of permafood in snake and spider if I don't have rPois 14:08:10 anyway need to go 14:08:11 but never getting close to running out 14:08:15 (And reducing the spellcasting and rod hunger slightly) 14:09:02 I had a Fo run out of food and forced to run on gourmand for a while but that's probably because I was banishing hydras and trying to get LRD online. 14:09:20 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:25 I personally think the poisonous chunks aren't a huge deal, unless you get unlucky with permafood drops (I have had that happen, but only very very very rarely) 14:09:59 so does that make poisonous chunks just regular chunks or does it make them not drop chunks 14:10:19 Current implementation is that poisonous corpses drop 'inedible chunks' 14:10:54 attempting to make the food clock relevant again? 14:11:14 according to the commit it looks like it actually drops edible chunks 14:11:18 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blobdiff;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h;h=7e18a9b639e8d2c95a4309a09e3b52aca7d0d410;hp=c97d7dc028f5256ad7bdec322defc66c3cd8daf0;hb=f1b829123668733560287a7122f0329f8b6a458b;hpb=34a6dd01c1eb39b7721bf4ab72cf7fe6b88b74d9 14:11:43 but let me check the other commit 14:12:18 yeah 14:12:20 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blobdiff;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h;h=8f8cf65a6892c9718d368cd3becbbe327d1c4a51;hp=7e18a9b639e8d2c95a4309a09e3b52aca7d0d410;hb=12d63ccd80ff79eca70bac4de387d3e8af6daca9;hpb=f1b829123668733560287a7122f0329f8b6a458b 14:12:25 poison > inedible 14:12:40 Yes. 14:15:53 -!- Fusha has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17:20 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:18:44 so basically a be nerf 14:19:48 a nerf to chunk reliant builds, yes 14:20:01 hmm 14:21:29 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:27:25 oh 14:27:27 this is funny 14:27:32 polar bear appears in lair spawns twice 14:27:43 is there any specific reason for t hat? 14:27:45 *that 14:28:15 %git :/grizzly.*methyst 14:28:19 Could not find commit :/grizzly.*methyst (git returned 128) 14:28:22 hmm 14:28:56 %git :/grizzl.*methyst 14:28:56 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-308-gc4fcbbb: Add polar bears in grizzlies' place to Lair (|amethyst). 10(12 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c4fcbbb638fa 14:29:29 i guess they're not quite combinable since they have a different range 14:31:09 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:32:35 apportation won't pull items into deep water if you can pick them out of it 14:33:15 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:34:42 huh. grizzlies' looks super-wrong there, but i think it's actually the right word 14:35:51 it's right. it's also english; don't try to understand it :p 14:37:39 a grizzled veteran of english-speaking 14:42:00 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:42:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:03 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 14:43:06 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:43:19 MLA just changed their tune regarding some possessive apostrophes for proper nouns but most style guides would suggest appending an ' after a plural common noun 14:44:15 %git :/Strunk 14:44:16 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-391-g7fe536a: Fix some glaringly incorrect English. 10(2 weeks ago, 6 files, 5+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7fe536a78149 14:45:51 n1k: what is this MLA change you refer to? 14:46:06 amalloy, well it's basically what wheals just linked 14:46:31 now for singular proper nouns you always write "Chris's patch" instead of "Chris' patch" 14:46:45 n1k: that has always been true 14:46:46 -!- driftwood has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:46:49 if(you_worship(GOD_IVES) && x_chance_in_y(you.piety, MAX_PIETY + 10)){ simple_god_message(" stabilizes the space-time around you, preventing the banishment!"); return; } seems reasonable. 14:46:53