00:00:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:00:40 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 00:00:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:05:14 just looks nicer to my eye 00:10:36 !source makeitem.cc:868 00:10:36 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc#l868 00:10:40 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-530-gbe3d13a (34) 00:11:18 I think this complaint makes itself 00:12:35 the ??? is almost certainly "to avoid new players screwing themselves over because of the xp penalty" 00:12:39 so... 00:12:51 hahahaha 00:19:05 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-530-gbe3d13a (34) 00:20:00 -!- sk3 is now known as ktgrey 00:20:22 -!- anubiann00b has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:21:46 -!- shummie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:21:52 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:23:48 xp penalty? 00:24:22 ??archmagi 00:24:23 archmagi[1/1]: Acts as one {enhancer} for all spells. In ancient times, divided incoming XP by 4 and also had a wizardry effect. 00:24:27 oh god 00:25:10 (: 00:31:46 ??doy[$ 00:31:46 doy[5/5]: greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz FeWz^Sif TrAr^Nem HuEE^Ash NaAM^Fedhas DgNe^Kiku FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh 00:32:21 !learn edit doy[5] s/FeWz^Sif // 00:32:22 No change: regex `FeWz^Sif ` does not match `greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz FeWz^Sif TrAr^Nem HuEE^Ash NaAM^Fedhas DgNe^Kiku FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh` 00:32:26 !learn edit doy[5] s/FeWz.Sif // 00:32:27 doy[5/5]: greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz TrAr^Nem HuEE^Ash NaAM^Fedhas DgNe^Kiku FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh 00:32:37 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:34:00 .doynext 00:34:00 TeGl^Jiyva 00:34:16 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:46 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:31 -!- anubiann00b has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:52:28 -!- Kramin|BNC has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:07 -!- dustinm`_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:13 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-530-gbe3d13a 00:53:52 -!- AltReality has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- ontoclasm has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- yxhuvud has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- devesine has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- Kramin has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- Cerepol has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- DrKe has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- dustinm` has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:52 -!- Finwe has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:53 -!- SOUP_TO_GO has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:53 -!- Kalma has quit [*.net *.split] 00:53:54 -!- Kramin|BNC is now known as Kramin 00:54:06 -!- SOUP_TO_GO_ is now known as SOUP_TO_GO 00:54:11 .doynext 00:54:11 DDTm^Makh 00:54:43 i like your dg god choice 00:54:56 heh 00:54:59 heh 00:55:15 simmarine: dev privileges 00:55:34 I wish I had that kind of dedication to make greaterplayer 00:55:51 alas my remining char is unwinnable 00:55:55 *remaining 00:56:05 !greaterplayer gammafunk 00:56:13 Unwon backgrounds for gammafunk: Berserker 00:56:19 !greatplayer 00:56:25 Unwon species for gammafunk: Minotaur 00:56:29 haha 00:56:51 i hope you are just saving that for a rainy day 00:56:55 ??gammafunk[4 00:56:55 gammafunk[4/9]: speedruns: MiBe^Mak DEFE^Veh HESu^Sif DESu^Sif 00:56:59 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:05 !lg . mibe x=urune 00:57:05 5. [urune=5] gammafunk the Executioner (L22 MiBe of Makhleb), blasted by a blizzard demon (bolt of lightning) in Pandemonium on 2015-02-13 00:17:48, with 470834 points after 25852 turns and 4:44:24. 00:57:11 pan is hard 00:57:32 only got worse with pan pursuit, I guess 01:02:10 -!- angelichorsey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:25 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:11:31 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 01:14:33 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:21:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:23:21 -!- Menche has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:58 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:27:51 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:31:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:31:31 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:48:49 !learn edit doy[5] s/DgNe\^Kiku/DgEE/ 01:48:49 doy[5/5]: greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz TrAr^Nem HuEE^Ash NaAM^Fedhas DgEE FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh 01:49:17 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:54 !learn edit doy[5] s/HuEE^Ash/HuNe^Kiku/ 01:49:54 No change: regex `HuEE^Ash` does not match `greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz TrAr^Nem HuEE^Ash NaAM^Fedhas DgEE FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh` 01:49:58 !learn edit doy[5] s/HuEE\^Ash/HuNe^Kiku/ 01:49:58 doy[5/5]: greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz TrAr^Nem HuNe^Kiku NaAM^Fedhas DgEE FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh 01:50:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:51:42 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:52:11 doy: I made a big list like that and played many, but a lot of my choices ended up being really unfun so I had to change them a lot 01:52:36 !greaterplayer dog 01:52:38 er 01:52:40 !greaterplayer doy 01:52:46 Unwon backgrounds for dog: Abyssal Knight, Air Elementalist, Arcane Marksman, Artificer, Assassin, Berserker, Chaos Knight, Conjurer, Earth Elementalist, Enchanter, Fighter, Fire Elementalist, Gladiator, Hunter, Ice Elementalist, Monk, Necromancer, Skald, Summoner, Transmuter, Venom Mage, Wanderer, Warper, Wizard 01:52:47 !great doy 01:52:49 Unwon backgrounds for doy: Air Elementalist, Arcane Marksman, Artificer, Earth Elementalist, Necromancer, Skald, Transmuter 01:53:00 !greatplayer doy 01:53:07 Unwon species for doy: Demigod, Formicid, Human, Mummy, Naga, Octopode, Ogre, Tengu, Troll 01:57:10 have any suggestions for fun characters? 01:57:12 (: 01:57:51 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:13 !lg . --as won 01:59:14 1. gammafunk the Imperceptible (L22 DEAs of Zin), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-02-11 04:32:50, with 1304622 points after 93870 turns and 9:30:46. 01:59:19 ah right 02:00:44 !apt te 02:00:44 Te: Fighting: 0, Short: 1, Long: 1, Axes: 1, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: 1, Slings: 0, Bows: 1, Xbows: 1, Throw: 1, Armour: 1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 1, Shields: 0, UC: 1!, Splcast: -1, Conj: 3!, Hexes: -3, Charms: -2, Summ: 2!, Nec: 1, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -2, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: 3!, Earth: -3*, Poison: 0, Inv: -1*, Evo: 0, Exp: !, HP: !, MP: ! 02:02:04 doy: I'd probably try to move zin to the fo because fock sounds terrible, but maybe you want the challenge 02:02:36 sp + zin feels pretty redundant as well 02:09:08 -!- Jesus_Christ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:09:33 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:10:39 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:19:08 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:19:19 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:19:22 -!- jackrogers has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:22:55 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-530-gbe3d13a (34) 02:26:12 so it seems to me like chei has an unusually easy time coping with the new "word of x" enemies, because you can use temporal distortion to dodge the word of entropy and the delayed firestorm. is that a balance problem at all? 02:27:18 I doubt it considering how much of a liability chei can be in the first place 02:28:38 heretic 02:30:29 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 02:30:37 -!- eb has quit [] 02:33:43 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:34:33 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 02:55:54 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:13 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:58:09 !learn edit wizlab[2] s/$/, {Lehudib's Moon Base} (0.17+)/ 02:58:09 wizlab[2/2]: For reference: {Tukima's Studio}, {Eringya's Formal Garden}, {Doroklohe's Tomb}, {Wucad Mu's Monastery}, {Cigotuvi's Fleshworks}, {Iskenderun's Mystic Tower}, {Zonguldrok's Shrine}, The {Roulette of Golubria}, {Cloud Mage}'s Chambers, {Hellbinder}'s Lair, {Lehudib's Moon Base} (0.17+) 02:59:34 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:40 !learn set wizlab[2] {Tukima's Studio} (0.16-), {Eringya's Formal Garden} (0.16-), {Doroklohe's Tomb}, {Wucad Mu's Monastery}, {Cigotuvi's Fleshworks}, {Iskenderun's Mystic Tower}, {Zonguldrok's Shrine}, The {Roulette of Golubria}, {Cloud Mage}'s Chambers, {Hellbinder}'s Lair, {Lehudib's Moon Base} (0.17+) 02:59:41 wizlab[2/2]: {Tukima's Studio} (0.16-), {Eringya's Formal Garden} (0.16-), {Doroklohe's Tomb}, {Wucad Mu's Monastery}, {Cigotuvi's Fleshworks}, {Iskenderun's Mystic Tower}, {Zonguldrok's Shrine}, The {Roulette of Golubria}, {Cloud Mage}'s Chambers, {Hellbinder}'s Lair, {Lehudib's Moon Base} (0.17+) 03:00:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:01:14 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 03:02:43 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:07 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:03:39 -!- sylnt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:00 !learn edit tukima's_studio s/$/ Removed in 0.17./ 03:05:00 tukima's studio[1/1]: Wizlab featuring {dancing weapon}s, strange generators spawning them and {strange machine}s blinking you next to them. Loot are the book with {Tukima's Dance}, a few blink scrolls plus an acquirement-level item and some gold. Removed in 0.17. 03:05:14 ??eringya's_formal_garden 03:05:14 eringya's formal garden[1/1]: Centaurs, vine-covered earth elementals, fruit traps, troublesome fungi, thorn hunters. 03:05:30 !learn edit eringya's_formal_garden s/$/ Removed in 0.17./ 03:05:31 eringya's formal garden[1/1]: Centaurs, vine-covered earth elementals, fruit traps, troublesome fungi, thorn hunters. Removed in 0.17. 03:07:28 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:08:20 !learn set wizlab[2] {Doroklohe's Tomb}, {Wucad Mu's Monastery}, {Cigotuvi's Fleshworks}, {Iskenderun's Mystic Tower}, {Zonguldrok's Shrine}, The {Roulette of Golubria}, {Cloud Mage}'s Chambers, {Hellbinder}'s Lair, {Lehudib's Moon Base} (0.17+), {Tukima's Studio} (0.16-), {Eringya's Formal Garden} (0.16-). 03:08:21 wizlab[2/2]: {Doroklohe's Tomb}, {Wucad Mu's Monastery}, {Cigotuvi's Fleshworks}, {Iskenderun's Mystic Tower}, {Zonguldrok's Shrine}, The {Roulette of Golubria}, {Cloud Mage}'s Chambers, {Hellbinder}'s Lair, {Lehudib's Moon Base} (0.17+), {Tukima's Studio} (0.16-), {Eringya's Formal Garden} (0.16-). 03:17:23 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:19:33 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:19:58 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:20:19 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:29:47 -!- Windshield has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:30:10 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:37:22 -!- Finerminer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:42:28 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:51:13 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:10:08 !lg . x=kmap 04:10:08 235. [killermap=] amalloy the Cutter (L2 KoWr), slain by a gnoll (a +0 spear) on D:1 on 2015-04-12 08:14:25, with 9 points after 341 turns and 0:01:33. 04:10:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:12:21 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:18:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:20:14 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:26:14 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:18 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:54:42 -!- mumra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01:01 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:04:54 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:05:56 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:10:12 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:14:30 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:32 -!- anubiann00b has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:18:48 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:21 -!- Hoglob has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:29:33 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 05:39:25 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:42:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:43:28 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 05:47:34 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:50:58 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:54:32 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:57:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:00:47 vault bug? http://i.imgur.com/SxNH3gH.jpg 06:22:55 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:31:46 -!- twzt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:33:31 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:19 can we get zombies to avoid noticed alarm traps? 06:39:17 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:16 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:47:45 -!- Evablue has quit [Client Quit] 06:58:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:07:24 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:16:12 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:16:20 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .] 07:24:45 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:25:15 -!- driftwood has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:31:47 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:20 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:11 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:40:48 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:51:46 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:51:52 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:53:09 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:54:49 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55:57 -!- driftwood has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:58:44 game crash when picking up gold or zot runes (Android) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9630 by Binturong 08:14:09 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:26:19 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:37:06 lunar statue doesn't show up in ?/m search 08:37:23 it's probably just a renamed statue 08:37:32 i highly doubt ?/m shows molten statues or archer statues or what have you either 08:38:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 08:38:56 appears to have its own unique spell set 08:39:03 shadow creatures and LCS for example 08:39:44 yes. charred statue has a unique spell set as well. 08:40:25 well, I don't see why statues get excluded from that monster search 08:40:35 because it's just a renamed statue 08:40:37 it ought to be complete 08:40:53 the base type is a statue 08:41:02 -!- EriktheRed___ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:41:17 cigotuvi's monster, vine elementals(?), what have you, there are tons of those 08:42:09 all in wizlabs, right? 08:42:17 no 08:42:23 charred statue is not in a wizlab 08:42:26 this is one thing that puts me off about wizlabs 08:42:29 archer statues are in multiple branches 08:42:38 lasher statues are in volcanoes 08:42:44 portals, then 08:42:57 charred statue is not in a portal 08:43:17 and the same applies to probably several monsters i can't think of off the bt 08:43:20 *bat 08:45:18 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48:20 ??singularity 08:48:20 singularity[1/2]: Level 9 Translocations. Places a monster like Fulminant Prism that draws creatures that are within its radius closer to itself, pulls harder the closer they are, and deals damage to creatures that are sufficiently close. Lasts ~6-8 turns, dependent on power. Doesn't warp allies. 08:51:43 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56:53 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:01:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:13:20 <|amethyst> kvaak: did someone say "off the bat"? 09:13:25 <|amethyst> @??phase bat 09:13:25 phase bat (09b) | Spd: 30 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-5 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Dam: 1 | see invisible, fly, 07vault | Res: 08blind | XP: 1 | Sp: blink [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 09:13:28 <|amethyst> @??spec:phase bat 09:13:28 phase bat: bat name:phase n_adj n_des n_spe col:lightgreen spells:blink.29.natural tile:mons_phase_bat 09:14:11 <|amethyst> it would be nice if ?/m showed monster renames, but it's technically difficult 09:14:22 <|amethyst> it probably wouldn't be hard to make it show the description 09:14:23 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:01 <|amethyst> but spells, MR, etc. all depend on the monster spec, which isn't easily available to Crawl when the monster isn't sitting right there in front of you 09:17:46 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:19:05 the proper solution would be to remove the technical distinction between normal monster types and vault-customized ones, but the obvious way of doing that, that is turning all vault monsters into normal monster types, seems cumbersome 09:19:09 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:03 <|amethyst> there is another obvious way of doing that :P 09:22:11 <|amethyst> which st_ started on a while back 09:22:12 ideally the system would be flexible enough to accommodate both vault monsters and ghost_demon, I guess 09:23:40 <|amethyst> If you saved the spec in the vault-compilation pass, ?/m could construct a fake monster and query that 09:23:58 <|amethyst> saved it somewhere ?/m knows to look I mean 09:24:48 <|amethyst> probably you'd have to at least figure out the name at vault compilation time, so you wouldn't have to construct every vault monster every time you do ?/m 09:25:33 <|amethyst> ghost demons are somewhat more difficult... you could construct a fake one when you query 09:25:42 <|amethyst> but the stats of that fake one may be randomised 09:25:55 -!- Bozo has quit [Client Quit] 09:26:07 <|amethyst> e.g. if would be misleading if ?/mLich showed a spell list 09:26:30 <|amethyst> unless that were explicitly labelled as a "sample" or something 09:26:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:03 <|amethyst> s/more difficult/different/ # probably easier overall 09:33:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:31 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:40:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:43:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:49 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:49 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:48:24 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:54:09 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:57:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:58 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 10:00:20 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:05 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:04 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:40:14 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:40 -!- ashudal has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:49:41 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:50:00 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:52:30 -!- ByronJohnson is now known as ` 10:52:45 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:52:59 -!- ` is now known as Guest31872 10:53:35 -!- Guest31872 is now known as notnufcha 10:53:57 -!- notnufcha is now known as ByronJohnson 10:59:28 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:00:06 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 11:00:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:02:30 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 11:05:09 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:05:57 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:07:28 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:07:43 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 11:08:35 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:09:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:09:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:09 @??jory 11:17:09 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 180 | AC/EV: 19/12 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3954 | Sp: crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close, vampiric draining [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 11:25:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:24 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:33:47 -!- floatRand has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:35:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:27 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:10 Now that I got around fiddling in Crawl, I can't stop. 11:39:21 Making an abyss:5 unique 11:39:34 wonder how many years it'd take before someone saw it 11:40:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:40:32 Basic idea is that it is surrounded by clouds of seething chaos ( ala asmodeus ), casts shadow creatures, malign gateway and bolt of distortion ( inflicts damage and miscasts effect, severity is cut in third if stasis/-TELE is on ), casts teleport other as emergency. 11:41:00 no one is ever going to kill it. 11:41:11 like, why would you. 11:41:29 In abyss:5 or deal with the seething clouds? 11:41:38 here's what you do: teleport out and never see it again. 11:42:38 Oh yeah. That's probably one. I was thinking of making a vault without other monsters, but that tele is kinda problem, yeah. I guess it's just better idea to wear stasis then. 11:42:46 Although it might be possible to come across the vault again? 11:42:57 I don't exactly know how the abyss-generation works with them. 11:46:02 That's not even what I mean. What motivation does the player have to fight this creature? 11:46:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:46:25 and players already basically have not motivation to go to abyss:5 11:46:33 *no motivation 11:46:43 Bragging rights :V 11:46:59 Well, it is kinda like that race I made, just having fun by myself. 11:47:23 Sure, just as long as you realize it's a pretty silly design. ) 11:47:26 :) 11:47:49 I am all about silly design 11:48:12 as long as your not also about getting things actually in the game, that's cool then 11:48:37 Nah, not particularly. 11:48:40 Made a tile. http://i.imgur.com/z5iBrVS.png 11:48:58 Aw, it's a cutey. 11:50:14 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:59 floatRand: i dunno anything about monster design but i do know tiles; would you like some feedback? 11:54:07 Sure. 11:54:21 okay 11:55:09 when you shade things, try to use the whole range from light to dark 11:55:32 you're usinga very small range of values and it makes things look flat 11:56:09 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:19 also, using black lines to show internal edges can work, but often makes things look cartoony; i prefer to imply those edges via shading 11:56:25 or a color difference 11:57:52 I used Asmodeus' sprite to work from ( and I didn't bother even changing the palette ), plus it is bit preliminary. 11:57:58 But I really appreciate the feedback. 11:58:20 I am just kinda used to black lines ( asmodeus' tile has them as well, as do many other hell lords ) 11:58:25 another useful thing is, if you have stuff behind other stuff (so in this case, hir right arm is behind hir face), make the stuff in the back darker; that makes the stuff in front stand out 11:59:10 floatRand: well, we use black outlines around the outside of the sprite 11:59:21 and of course, they sometimes make sense for internal edges 11:59:56 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00:24 i think it's mainly that you have light grey right next to 100% black; the contrast is too high 12:00:25 Ah, yeah. 12:00:34 ??singularity [2] 12:00:34 singularity[2/2]: --more-- 12:01:05 good work, though; keep at it 12:02:49 -!- Hubba has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:03:26 floatRand: interesting species idea! 12:06:02 Thanks. 12:06:34 what species 12:09:41 floatRand: no idea if it works as expected, but the mechanics are alright 12:10:41 :/ 12:10:46 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:10:55 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:08 By the way, how should I go around clearing clouds? I want to clear cloud at the monster's location so it won't get affected by it. 12:11:53 might make more sense to give it immunity to that cloud type 12:13:14 Hm, probably. 12:14:53 !source actor_cloud_immune 12:14:54 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/cloud.cc#l938 12:15:00 ^ that 12:15:31 Thanks! 12:15:36 np 12:17:35 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:17:43 Hm, the bolt of distortion crashes game as of the moment, gotta check what makes it do so. 12:18:51 bolt of distortion o_O 12:19:04 I remember implementing that a while ago as a joke 12:19:20 probably my work on that has disappeared 12:19:31 keep in mind that the same monster could be hit by it and then blink into the later parts of the same beam 12:19:34 you implemented and only didn't push it because you were afraid of MPA! 12:20:03 it was because I came up with Gell's instead :b 12:20:17 I need to fix the monster targetting on singularity 12:20:21 it's a simple fix I think though 12:20:24 ? 12:20:35 Grunt: so it doesn't recast when it's already effective 12:20:39 oh 12:20:45 just add a check in _ms_waste_of_time 12:20:48 yeah 12:21:11 sadly our moon troll no longer has a 100% killratio 12:21:19 rip 12:21:23 Current it just deals damage and inflicts miscast effect ( MiscastEffect(&you, nullptr, SPELL_MISCAST, SPTYP_TRANSLOCATION, 9, 90, "bolt of distortion", NH_NEVER ), unless player has stasis/-TELE 12:21:58 "nullptr" is probably the problem there 12:22:16 Ah, might be. 12:22:35 if it's a beam, you probably want agent() there 12:22:46 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-530-gbe3d13a (34) 12:22:57 (also what happens when it hits monsters) 12:23:31 Alright 12:23:47 Same thing, inflicts a miscast depending if they have stasis/tele 12:24:05 MiscastEffect(mon, agent(), SPELL_MISCAST , SPTYP_TRANSLOCATION, 9, 90, "beam of distortion", NH_NEVER); 12:24:53 I was actually thinking of him dropping staff that forces distortion-unwielding effect on everyone in LoS and summons hostile monsters. 12:26:50 http://i.imgur.com/wNk4z4w.png 12:28:27 .moon 12:28:27 3. [2015-04-12 15:09:52] Sauken the Impaler (L26 NaWr of Cheibriados) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 73828. (Depths:3) 12:29:35 !lg * recent br=wizlab max=xl 12:29:36 151. TheAlgebraist the Axe Maniac (L27 MiBe of The Shining One), mangled by a stone giant (summoned by the rage of Trog) in WizLab (wizlab_golubria) on 2014-11-22 23:40:29, with 662934 points after 96141 turns and 6:52:25. 12:29:48 !lg * recent br=wizlab max=xl kmap~~wizlab 12:29:49 97. ihatethisgame the Pyromancer (L22 GrCj of Vehumet), blown up by an ancient lich in WizLab (wizlab_doroklohe) on 2015-02-15 04:07:29, with 375706 points after 57938 turns and 5:08:54. 12:30:05 !lg * recent br=wizlab max=xl kmap~~wizlab -2 12:30:06 96/97. Crut the Scorcher (L22 HuFE of Vehumet), demolished by a moon troll in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-04-09 21:26:12, with 337666 points after 79833 turns and 8:36:30. 12:30:39 !lg * recent br=wizlab max=xl kmap~~wizlab -3 12:30:40 95/97. schistosomatic the Maledictor (L21 SpEn of Dithmenos), blown up by a conjurer statue in WizLab (wizlab_iskenderun) on 2015-02-25 19:43:01, with 352200 points after 84494 turns and 5:41:21. 12:30:53 sp dying to a statue... 12:31:09 @??conjurer_statue 12:31:09 unknown monster: "conjurer_statue" 12:31:12 @??conjurer statue 12:31:12 conjurer statue (048) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 12 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | Dam: 20 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, master archer, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 03poison++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 941 | Sp: o.destruction (9d13) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 12:31:50 good master archer 12:35:24 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:47 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:35:48 -!- walterch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:39:44 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:41:20 Hm, still crashes. 12:45:54 -!- cojito has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:47:19 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:49:18 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:53 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:56:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56:25 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:59:58 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:27 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:38 Okay, now the beam should work. 13:09:43 -!- cribozai has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:14:48 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:16:08 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:20:30 -!- zxc2321 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:25 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:49 -!- st_ has quit [] 13:37:12 are there still plans for convoker-like traps? 13:37:43 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:43 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:41:53 johnstein: I don't know of anyone working on them. 13:42:27 http://i.imgur.com/IBAqmGj.png 13:42:30 Alright, the beam works. 13:43:40 PleasingFungus: ty. someone told me shadow traps were removed and I kept telling them I thought they were just switched over to convoker traps instead. oops 13:44:15 f 13:44:53 Lasty: g 13:45:07 Lasty: maybe also h but I'm undecided 13:46:35 Here's the stats http://pastebin.com/S4MX80K6 13:47:20 rip 13:48:10 -!- anubiann00b has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:49:47 !lg * recent br=wizlab max=xl kmap~~wizlab -2 log 13:49:47 96/97. Crut, XL22 HuFE, T:79833: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Crut/morgue-Crut-20150409-212612.txt 13:50:31 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:52 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:52:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:53:27 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:56:08 -!- zxc2321 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:11 -!- Manos777 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:56:50 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:46 -!- memories has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:05:52 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:05:53 .moon -tv:>$:channel=moon 14:05:53 4. ewwic, XL22 GrFi, T:50062 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 14:06:26 pity that, I really thought that shadow traps added to the game :( 14:07:18 PleasingFungus should return as SteelFungus and code shadow traps deluxe 14:08:07 wow 4 entries now 14:08:25 hmm i'd never noticed "welcome to a wizard's laboratory" when you enter a wizlab 14:08:36 imo that is a weird message 14:09:00 well i know what wizlab im never doing 14:09:13 Lunar Statue 14:09:18 comes into view 14:09:23 as dangerous as an Orb Guardian 14:10:00 fr moon giants 14:10:28 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:37 this looks rather large 14:10:54 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:11 good 14:11:38 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:11:45 -!- fdsfdsff has quit [Client Quit] 14:12:28 -!- Walttt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:12:58 _The demonic plantseems to return to its normal shape. 14:15:31 i like his bolt collection with no crossbows on hand 14:16:20 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-531-gd5b3667: Fix wretched expiration message (simmarine) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5b3667de96b 14:16:30 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:16:51 i think this tv will play until the end of his game 14:17:15 yes, but it's on a channel 14:17:20 not that I'll watch it that far 14:17:23 !lg ewwic 14:17:24 142. ewwic the Slayer (L23 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by a frost giant (bolt of cold) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2015-04-11 22:10:38, with 396768 points after 50378 turns and 2:35:14. 14:17:26 -!- nikheizen_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:17:31 spoiler: he dies on V:5 14:17:32 missed something potentially exciting 14:17:54 I'll leave it playing I guess 14:18:04 oh nm 14:18:07 ttyrec ended 14:18:27 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:19:11 -!- serq has quit [Client Quit] 14:19:31 it'd be neat if it could print the message as to which wizlab you've entered 14:20:07 !lm simm br.enter=wizlab milestone~~doro 14:20:08 4. [2014-01-29 05:17:40] simm the Covert (L16 VSIE of Dithmenos) entered Doroklohe's Tomb on turn 35848. (D:16) 14:20:14 4, so I don't want to hear it from you 14:20:56 !lm simm br.enter=wizlab lg:br=wizlab 14:20:56 No milestones for simm (br.enter=wizlab lg:br=wizlab). 14:21:14 you get the name of the wizlab in your notes too, not sure how the stair code can get it though 14:21:34 I think some lua in the map would work? 14:21:43 you can just crawl.mpr() 14:21:45 !lm * br.enter=wizlab / lg:br=wizlab 14:21:46 437/19507 milestones for * (br.enter=wizlab): N=437/19507 (2.24%) 14:21:52 better than some uniques 14:21:55 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:22:07 !lm * recent br.enter=wizlab / lg:br=wizlab 14:22:08 151/5425 milestones for * (recent br.enter=wizlab): N=151/5425 (2.78%) 14:22:09 i guess, would just need special-casing to not also print the "welcome to a wizlab" message 14:22:25 ah, yeah you wouldn't want to print both, that's true 14:22:34 maybe that message could use a map field or something 14:22:47 like how sprint's do 14:22:53 *sprints 14:23:16 gammafunk: i dont think ive ever done the tomb wizlab ever though, i pretty much always leave 14:23:37 I'm going to look at those 4 morgues 14:23:44 and I'm going to learn the *truth* 14:23:58 whatever happened to the evoker god 14:23:59 it might not even be that difficult but i remember when i was still new-ish and remember people would always say "yeah just avoid that wizlab it's death" so i just never did it 14:24:45 evoker god all depends on the hasted patch executioner G 14:24:52 not sure if he plans to work on it more 14:26:02 <|amethyst> sounds like the title of an anime 14:26:25 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:27:15 The Grunt anime was released at the height of the 80s anime craze, some say it's a pinnacle of the art form 14:28:34 -!- moofase has quit [Client Quit] 14:29:07 If I were to place a vault in Abyss, how can I make sure it is placed in Abyss:5? 14:29:39 something about depths? 14:29:55 default-depth: Abyss, abyss:5- ? 14:30:29 add the tag 14:30:36 DEPTH: Depths, Crypt:1-4 14:30:39 e.g. 14:30:46 DEPTH: Abyss:$ 14:30:49 is what you want 14:31:22 Ah, that works I think? 14:32:26 http://pastebin.com/v0ha83rY 14:33:21 <|amethyst> I don't think that will work with abyssal rune vaults 14:33:35 <|amethyst> oh 14:33:38 <|amethyst> actually it will 14:34:01 <|amethyst> _abyss_place_map does pass check_depth = true 14:34:22 <|amethyst> err, and _abyss_place_vault_tagged, which is more important there 14:34:47 <|amethyst> but I'm not sure it makes sense to have an Abyss:$-only rune vault 14:35:16 <|amethyst> well, maybe the better loot would be a reason 14:35:30 <|amethyst> !lm * recent rune=abyssal s=place 14:35:34 6115 milestones for * (recent rune=abyssal): 3957x Abyss:3, 1362x Abyss:4, 795x Abyss:5, Abyss:2 14:35:44 <|amethyst> more than I expected! 14:35:52 <|amethyst> !lm * recent rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 14:35:52 1. [2015-04-08 14:09:08] Tossi the Intangible (L25 MfBe of Trog) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 69816. (Abyss:2) 14:36:04 <|amethyst> hm 14:36:09 <|amethyst> wonder how that happened 14:36:15 <|amethyst> !lm * recent rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 x=gid 14:36:16 1. [2015-04-08 14:09:08] [game_key=Tossi:cao:20150307074203S] Tossi the Intangible (L25 MfBe of Trog) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 69816. (Abyss:2) 14:36:23 <|amethyst> !lg Tossi:cao:20150307074203S 14:36:23 No keyword 'Tossi:cao:20150307074203S' 14:36:26 <|amethyst> !lg * gid=Tossi:cao:20150307074203S 14:36:27 1. Tossi the Intangible (L27 MfBe of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2015-04-09 08:37:55, with 2656509 points after 97966 turns and 9:06:04. 14:36:29 <|amethyst> !lg * gid=Tossi:cao:20150307074203S -log 14:36:29 1. Tossi, XL27 MfBe, T:97966: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Tossi/morgue-Tossi-20150409-083755.txt 14:36:55 !lm * gid=Tossi:cao:20150307074203S 1 x=vlong 14:36:56 1/86. [2015-04-07 07:42:04] [vlong=0.17-a0-472-g95725d1] Tossi the Poker (L1 MfBe of Trog) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 14:37:26 !lm * recent rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 -tv:<2 14:37:27 1. Tossi, XL25 MfBe, T:69816 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 14:37:27 <|amethyst> oh, and no vaults dump 14:38:33 before anyone removes the Dorokhloe wizlab, give me a chance to improve it, I think the basic idea is alright, but for example the entry tunnel is garbage 14:38:49 ... 14:38:53 nicolae... 14:39:03 gosh darn it 14:39:22 <|amethyst> oh 14:39:27 no depth 14:39:28 :/ 14:39:42 er 14:39:48 <|amethyst> should have unrand I think 14:39:53 <|amethyst> rather than a depth 14:39:53 oh no unrand 14:39:58 welp 14:40:07 <|amethyst> or 14:40:13 <|amethyst> could have a conditional on the rune 14:40:28 well it's a rune vault 14:40:30 <|amethyst> but that (like limiting the depth) would mean slightly more runes than intended 14:40:52 we wouldn't want it to place without a rune in this particular case, I think 14:41:16 but tbh it's a bit more on the side of gimmick rune vault as opposed to posing an actual challeng 14:41:46 |amethyst: can you fix that or should I? 14:41:49 I'm in a branch 14:41:52 <|amethyst> I will 14:41:56 thanks 14:42:11 -!- Desloz has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:42:49 !tell nicolae- Look what you did your vaults broke crawl again!!!! lm * recent rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 -tv 14:42:49 gammafunk: OK, I'll let nicolae- know. 14:43:11 <|amethyst> many abyss_exit vaults are also not-unrand, though that's not such a big deal 14:43:25 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:45:58 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-532-g31da84a: Mark an abyssal run vault as unrand. 10(86 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/31da84a26234 14:46:09 <|amethyst> ... "run vault run" 14:49:37 http://i.imgur.com/SUhhknW.png 14:54:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:51 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:24 -!- Desloz has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:59:41 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:40 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:03:09 |amethyst: clearly you've not gotten enough runes and are unfamiliar with them! 15:03:56 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:05:25 Hm, for some reason this started crashing at startup: http://pastebin.com/vhMxGWe3 15:08:20 RTILE is only for rock wall 15:08:25 you want TILE 15:08:34 Ah, thanks. 15:08:38 but isn't wall_hall rock anyhow? 15:08:43 in terms of appearence 15:08:47 in which case it's terrible to use that 15:08:51 since b is crystal 15:09:06 Still crashes. Hm. Yeah, either stone or crystal. 15:09:23 so for any kind of sanity you'd want the tile to match the type of wall you're actually using 15:10:16 -!- ashudal has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:21 not sure of your OS, but you should run it from console to see what the error message it 15:10:24 *is 15:12:22 Oh, too big. 15:14:39 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:51 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:39 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:16:00 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:16:21 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:18:28 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:18:43 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 15:18:57 -!- oomoom has quit [Client Quit] 15:20:36 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:26:04 Alright. http://i.imgur.com/piQ3QuU.png 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-533-g0dad318: Remove direct damage from stat loss while already at zero 10(7 weeks ago, 20 files, 46+ 162-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0dad318b54cc 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-534-g2a1cb5a: Remove Freeze's stun effect 10(4 hours ago, 2 files, 0+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a1cb5afca22 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-535-gd3f7434: Display cold-bloodedness in xv 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d3f74340c98a 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-536-g2158ce9: Adjust messages for portal vault entry 10(54 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2158ce93fb2f 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-537-g85d5840: Fix messaging for the Lunar Statue 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/85d58403e017 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-538-g008f2f9: Don't print Hell's farewell message when entering a subbranch 10(41 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/008f2f92ffb6 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-539-g96b752d: Make being at stat zero apply normal slow with a status light 10(41 minutes ago, 4 files, 17+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/96b752d0d13f 15:28:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-540-g62bfd06: Make stat zero recovery time independent from time spent at stat zero 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62bfd060048d 15:30:10 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32:32 -!- Lems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:35:11 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:54 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:37:44 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:37:54 hmm M_SHADOW seems like a flag that really doesn't deserve an entire line on xv 15:38:04 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:43 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:38:49 or possibly: to exist at all? not sure making shadows no longer corona-immune and also give dith piety would even be noticed 15:39:29 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:07 wow spectral weapons are wreathed in shadow 15:40:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:40:51 <|amethyst> wasn't sure if they were supposed to be shadowy or glowing 15:41:34 <|amethyst> probably M_GLOWS_LIGHT wouldn't need to be listed either? 15:41:36 how did freeze's stun effect work anyways 15:42:39 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:31 M_GLOWS_RADIATION could maybe also be removed and just have ugly things change colour when near other ugly things? 15:43:44 Hexes show success rate on nonsusceptible targets 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9631 by Brannock 15:43:46 -!- karlwayne has quit [Client Quit] 15:44:43 http://i.imgur.com/atjys80.png 15:44:49 Alright, done for today I suppose. 15:45:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:52:04 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52:05 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:53:31 How does the vault weight work? 15:53:33 oh wow ugly thing colour-changing is already more effective with ugly things than it is with other GLOWS_RADIATION monsters 15:53:54 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:37 this code is amazing 15:55:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-541-g76ea92f: Add lua method item.stacks([item]) 10(40 minutes ago, 1 file, 33+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/76ea92ffab2c 15:55:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-542-g7258fb4: Use item.stacks() in autopickup. 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7258fb44b41f 15:55:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-543-g13d7571: Simplify. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13d75716249b 15:56:31 -!- Dood has quit [Client Quit] 15:57:25 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:02:18 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:10 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:06:26 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:21 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:13 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:23:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:25 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:27:48 -!- jmc245 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:30:48 IronDongz suggests (on SA) to add one or two entropy weavers to Spider end vaults. Are there any plans in that direction? 16:31:06 (I haven't met the monster yet, just asking.) 16:31:14 dpeg: what was that player name, again? 16:34:09 IronDongz. I remember bits about obnoxious players, but that name leaves me blank. 16:34:28 dpeg: yea I was going to add one to my proposed spider end vault 16:34:41 cool 16:34:52 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:53 also add some orb weavers, players <3 them :) 16:34:53 !learn add crawl_players IronDongz. I remember bits about obnoxious players, but that name leaves me blank. 16:34:53 crawl players[19/19]: IronDongz. I remember bits about obnoxious players, but that name leaves me blank. 16:35:09 hey guys, I got a feeling I'm missing somethin! 16:35:28 * bhaak gives dpeg a 'g' 16:35:36 -!- dpeg is now known as dpegg 16:35:37 did we finish relocating to github yet 16:36:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36:55 -!- mauris_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:30 dpegg: dong is slang for penis 16:40:16 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:40:57 @??singularity 16:40:58 singularity (13*) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 5 | HP: 10000 | AC/EV: 3/0 | 11non-living, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 0 | Sz: little | Int: plant. 16:42:27 gammafunk: oh that I know, but I mean, we're talking about someone using SA :) 16:42:37 oh ok 16:43:10 I'd have expected you to just say "Suggestion from SA" but a dong is just a dong I guess 16:43:18 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:45:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:50:52 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:51:04 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:51:16 oh, I was only giving the name in case someone wants to look it up 16:51:47 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:54:13 -!- hhkb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:13 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59:05 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:00:24 -!- k_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:21 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:12:23 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Quit: Changing server] 17:14:36 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:23 -!- mauris_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:15:32 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Client Quit] 17:17:24 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Client Quit] 17:17:26 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:52 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Client Quit] 17:24:41 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26:58 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-544-g9e0f5ac: Fix monsters unnecessarily recasting singularity 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e0f5ac1e396 17:26:58 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-545-gfa30fa2: Give the moon troll more MR 10(69 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa30fa2920af 17:26:58 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-546-g92f1a90: Moon base tweaks 10(66 minutes ago, 1 file, 27+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/92f1a9008db9 17:27:26 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-543-g13d7571 (34) 17:28:20 rip sequell 17:30:01 couldn't face the moon tweaks 17:30:07 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:35 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:37:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:40:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:56 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:47:30 wheals: the singularity monster encodes the r2 value for its radius in its hd 17:47:33 classic Grunt 17:50:01 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52:20 -!- anubiann00b has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:52:30 -!- Fusha has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:33 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:00:10 -!- Misder_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:27 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:02:54 Hi, I want to be able to autofight without moving, but shift-tab doesnt work with webtiles so I wanted to rebind tab to that but I don't know what to set the macro to. Is this possible? 18:03:24 as i said, macro \{-233} to a key of your choice 18:03:43 (i wouldn't recommend tab since then you can only shift-tab) 18:04:41 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:05:27 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:48 -!- karlwayne has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:09:26 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:59 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:09 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:23:10 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:23:46 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:05 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:24:37 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29:33 ??plan 18:29:34 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 18:30:59 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:40:50 -!- Misder_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:43:48 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:45:56 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:57 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:05 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:52:59 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:54:19 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:54:52 would it be hard to make the (a)bility screen show your current amonut of gold if you follow gozag? 18:54:58 -!- dpegg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:55:28 maybe 18:55:38 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:49 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:55:53 <|amethyst> it wouldn't be hard to do that by itself, but 18:56:10 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:56:48 <|amethyst> you'd also want to show: MP for most gods and non-god abilities, HP for Makhleb and Lugonu, fruit for Fedhas, piety for most gods, ... 18:57:21 i guess so? i dunno, i feel like i usually have some idea how much HP i have, and the gods' MP costs are fixed 18:57:43 whereas this is my first gozag game and every time i hit a* i'm like "dangit i do'nt even know how much of this i can afford" 18:57:53 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:58:14 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:58:56 Time to fix these bugs and then form patch, I suppose. 19:02:10 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:02:25 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:04:16 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:35 -!- serq has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08:14 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:31 -!- Jingo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:10:53 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:15 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:15:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:15:17 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:47 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:35 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:22:10 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:38:16 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:38:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:38:34 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:39:15 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 19:40:19 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:58 -!- Behr has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:47:06 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 19:50:02 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:34 Alright, here's patch for Gressil if anyone wants to try to give him a spin: http://puu.sh/hbMtd/1ec393be99.patch 19:50:39 I am off to sleep now. 19:59:33 -!- neotelesocio has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:03:43 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:05:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05:43 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:08:23 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:11:05 -!- debo_ is now known as debo 20:11:46 -!- memories has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:12:07 -!- jmc245 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:13:21 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:54 !send nicolae- Abyssal runes 20:14:54 Sending Abyssal runes to nicolae-. 20:15:04 neat, thanks 20:15:04 nicolae-: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:15:07 !messages 20:15:07 (1/1) gammafunk said (5h 32m 18s ago): Look what you did your vaults broke crawl again!!!! lm * recent rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 -tv 20:15:08 !abyss nicolae- 20:15:08 wheals casts a spell. nicolae- is devoured by a tear in reality! 20:15:18 lm * recent rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 -tv 20:15:22 !lm * recent rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 -tv 20:15:23 1. Tossi, XL25 MfBe, T:69816 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:16:16 forgotthe unrand tag 20:16:22 lol 20:16:22 something else I didn't catch 20:16:28 "whoopsy doodle" 20:16:39 !lm * rune=abyssal s=lvl 20:16:40 19002 milestones for * (rune=abyssal): 7231x 3, 3161x 4, 2474x 5, 2049x 1, 702x 21, 626x 25, 560x 22, 496x 24, 392x 23, 240x 2, 193x 7, 127x 27, 125x 6, 118x 26, 91x 20, 86x 8, 44x 16, 42x 0, 42x 18, 33x 14, 32x 17, 31x 19, 21x 11, 21x 15, 19x 12, 16x 10, 16x 9, 13x 13, -1 20:16:47 that dude has a cheevo that no one else will ever get 20:17:12 oh i guess lvl did the lvl you got banished from pre-portal_branches 20:17:34 !lm * rune=abyssal lvl=-1 20:17:35 1. [2007-08-09 18:24:13] zucchini the Farming Annihilator (L27 DECj of Sif Muna) found an abyssal rune on turn 281609. (Abyss) 20:18:02 !lm * rune=abyssal s=place 20:18:03 19002 milestones for * (rune=abyssal): 7038x Abyss:3, 6960x Abyss, 2947x Abyss:4, 2055x Abyss:5, 2x Abyss:2 20:18:04 !kw inception 20:18:05 No keyword 'inception' 20:18:19 2x abyss:2 20:18:23 really, the most disappointing thing about that abyss:2 rune was that it didn't seem to pose much of a challenge to him at all 20:18:26 though he was level 25, so 20:18:28 !lm * abyss:2 rune 20:18:29 maybe that's okay 20:18:29 !lm * abyss:2 rune -2 20:18:30 2. [2015-04-08 14:09:08] Tossi the Intangible (L25 MfBe of Trog) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 69816. (Abyss:2) 20:18:35 doh 20:18:38 someone else got it! 20:18:39 <|amethyst> !lm * rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 1 20:18:41 <|amethyst> !lm * rune=abyssal place=abyss:2 2 20:18:51 |amethyst: already queried both :P 20:18:56 just Sequell is slow 20:19:04 1/2. [2013-11-07 00:49:19] bmfx the Tortoise (L25 GhAr of Makhleb) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 68229. (Abyss:2) 20:19:04 1/2. [2013-11-07 00:49:19] bmfx the Tortoise (L25 GhAr of Makhleb) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 68229. (Abyss:2) 20:19:05 2. [2015-04-08 14:09:08] Tossi the Intangible (L25 MfBe of Trog) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 69816. (Abyss:2) 20:19:10 haha 20:19:11 bmfx 20:19:13 good 20:19:19 !lm * abyss:2 rune -2 -log 20:19:20 i've done it 20:19:21 hrm 20:19:23 i've ruined crawl forever 20:19:23 bmfx, XL27 GhAr, T:99814: http://rl.heh.fi/morgue/bmfx/morgue-bmfx-20131107-050133.txt 20:19:28 man 20:19:29 rhf 20:19:30 but that's way old 20:19:31 lost forever 20:19:50 !lm * abyss:2 rune -2 x=file,v 20:19:50 maybe another rune vault had this problem? 20:19:51 1/2. [2013-11-07 00:49:19] [file=rhf/meta/crawl-git/milestones;v=0.14.0-a0] bmfx the Tortoise (L25 GhAr of Makhleb) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 68229. (Abyss:2) 20:20:11 so, a while after the abyss changes actually happened 20:20:24 yeah my guess is just a rune vault was added without unrand 20:20:28 just like this time 20:20:39 well, at least when i go up against the wall i won't be alone 20:21:11 funny thing is that rune vault is among the easiest ones 20:21:13 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:21:15 <|amethyst> !lm * abyss:2 rune -2 x=vlong 20:21:19 1/2. [2013-11-07 00:49:19] [vlong=] bmfx the Tortoise (L25 GhAr of Makhleb) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 68229. (Abyss:2) 20:21:26 containment breach? 20:21:32 maybe it should have a wretched star or something else in it 20:21:33 yeah 20:21:34 ah well. 20:21:38 maybe throw in another maelstrom 20:21:42 sure 20:21:53 it's just one, so you can take that by the time you find the rune 20:21:54 <|amethyst> %git 6b455ae6f 20:21:54 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-773-g6b455ae: Finish tagging abyss rune vaults with unrand (#7721). 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6b455ae6f907 20:21:58 hrm, wasn't there another one of my vaults i was gonna fix up 20:22:03 <|amethyst> two days after bmfx's rune 20:22:11 aha 20:22:11 !bug 7721 20:22:11 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7721 20:22:25 wow, a lot missing them ? 20:22:38 <|amethyst> %git 9c75138 20:22:38 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-601-g9c75138: Do away with the "abyss" tag in favour of DEPTH specifications. 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 9 files, 168+ 144-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c7513855ef9 20:22:42 %git 9c75138 20:22:42 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-601-g9c75138: Do away with the "abyss" tag in favour of DEPTH specifications. 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 9 files, 168+ 144-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c7513855ef9 20:22:43 ah, ok 20:23:00 maybe should be done for pan tag too 20:23:08 since this was due to grunt 20:23:16 add an executioner to that vault, nicolae- 20:23:38 50% chance of ignacio 20:23:57 nah i'll just pack it with maelstroms 20:24:13 (theme is he tried out a random exec axe he found in pan but it was distortion branded) 20:24:24 seems like default-depth causes lots of bugs 20:24:43 yeah, but so do a lot of things with des syntax, sadly 20:24:55 it's all so arcane 20:24:58 like the tags, they're largely undocumented 20:25:02 well many are undocumented 20:25:24 maybe far fewer than I'm imagining, but I feel I'm always seeing some tag where I have no idea what it means 20:25:52 i remember chris removing some tags that never did anything 20:25:54 <|amethyst> probably tags that have meaning should be separate from tags used for placement 20:26:14 <|amethyst> separate as in don't use "TAGS:" for both 20:26:52 <|amethyst> e.g. OPTIONS: and TAGS: 20:27:13 <|amethyst> abyss_rune doesn't have any special semantics; it's just used in a "select-by-tag" 20:27:16 which would the tags that subvaults look for be under? 20:27:25 <|amethyst> TAGS: 20:27:27 probably a placement tag 20:28:23 oh, in that case perhaps OPTIONS could be limited to a specific set listed somewhere in C++ 20:28:38 <|amethyst> the ones listed in the docs 20:28:40 so you'd have some central place to at least list them? 20:28:56 yeah, something like that sounds nice 20:29:27 probably they're all actually documented, and I'm just complaining about the group-specific uniq_ ones etc 20:30:00 -!- Jonatan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:06 <|amethyst> hm... not sure where uniq_foo and luniq_foo would go 20:30:13 <|amethyst> with OPTIONS: or with TAGS: 20:30:20 <|amethyst> probably OPTIONS: since it has semantics 20:30:37 would have thought TAGs since the set of possible ones is unknowable at compile-time 20:31:20 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:34:59 <|amethyst> (also, it would still be nice to make KMASK: work like KPROP:, then to merge the two) 20:37:21 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:29 <|amethyst> oh 20:38:30 <|amethyst> nice 20:38:42 <|amethyst> there is a partial list in dat/dlua/mapinit.lua 20:38:46 <|amethyst> !source register_flags 20:38:47 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/dlua/mapinit.lua#l8 20:40:00 <|amethyst> (this is only used for validating that a map can be placed: a tag not on this list that is also not luniq_* uniq_* ruin_* or chance_* is assumed to be a placement tag) 20:40:17 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 20:40:32 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-547-g5e20af8: Clean up some des in a vault 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 17+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5e20af8f69f8 20:40:47 define over m for no reason bothered me 20:41:49 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:44:11 <|amethyst> the things listed in syntax.txt that are "pure" placement tags with no further meaning to C++: decor, arrival, *_entry, mnoleg etc, layout (probably also layout_type_*, arguably layout_*), arguably no_species_* 20:44:44 <|amethyst> I say arguably because negative placement tags aren't really the same as placement tags 20:45:29 <|amethyst> and layout_type_* isn't used for placement, but is a pure tag that doesn't affect the vault it's on (rather, it affects other vaults with layout_*) 20:47:44 <|amethyst> hm 20:47:51 <|amethyst> I guess chance_* is also placement 20:49:59 <|amethyst> Other pure placement tags: abyss_rune, abyss_exit, place_unique, central, temple_overflow_*, fallback_*, tutorial, arena, arena_*, sprint, zotdef, zotdef_bazaar, 20:50:01 man, blade hands + chei is just hilarious 20:50:28 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:50:29 <|amethyst> and probably several more that aren't referenced from C++ at all, only other vaults 20:50:47 <|amethyst> (decor is one of those, except that it's documented) 20:54:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:02:38 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:02:49 -!- Sharkman1231 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:20 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:21:38 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:38 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 21:26:47 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 21:27:22 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:31:10 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:32:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:33:16 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:36:39 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:36:58 -!- Jesus_Christ is now known as Bcadren 21:43:53 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:44:22 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:44:36 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:46:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:18 the drop screen's "3 turns" message is really stupid now that dropping items is fast 21:47:48 is it? 21:47:55 didn't realize that was actually changed 21:48:01 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:48:41 i suspect an unspoiled player would not expect "5 turns" to take the same amount of time as 4 moves on a human 21:49:16 i mean at least showing game turns is default now, but still, ugh 21:50:26 for that matter, is there really any reason to constrain players to dropping 1 item at a time now that item destruction is gone? they can pick up any number of items at once, why not drop them 21:51:08 (and change the time taken by dropping back to "10" aut, even for wielded items) 21:52:16 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:53:21 "turns" in that should at least be changed to "items" though. it's technically correct for one definition of "turn", similar to saying a naga's movement delay is "1 turn", but also like saying that, it's weird and useless in this context 21:54:58 <|amethyst> probably "stacks" instead of "items", but yeah 21:56:05 <|amethyst> though really it's probably not needed at all if the multidrop delay is removed 21:57:58 <|amethyst> I don't know about making unwielding or especially unwearing free though 21:58:13 <|amethyst> I guess with unwielding it's not a huge gain 21:58:54 unwearing would stay the same, and unwielding is already free with dropping 21:59:20 it used to be more than free even (dropping wielded items was faster than dropping non-wielded ones) 21:59:55 <|amethyst> oh, since it's already in your hand 22:00:06 <|amethyst> and the only way to drop things is with your hands 22:00:06 I assume that was the logic, yes 22:00:19 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:20 verisimilitude 22:00:32 also in even older versions, it was actually faster to wield an item and then drop it, than it was to just drop it 22:00:38 that was fun 22:01:57 you can drop things without your hands though, like you just shake your body and the scroll of immolation falls out of your backpack 22:02:01 <|amethyst> yeah 22:02:10 but none of the other items fall out, because you are very good at controlling your backpack 22:02:32 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:02:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:03:10 <|amethyst> FR: dropping all (but not just some) equipment is very fast, but then you can't pick up anything that doesn't go into a slot until you pick up the backpack again 22:03:48 The shopkeeper grabs your pack! 22:03:57 tear away plate armour 22:11:21 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:34 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:48 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:14 iirc the conclusion on multidropping was "we should probably make it 1 turn but delay code is a mess" 22:25:34 -!- schistosoma has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:58 <|amethyst> the difficult part being what to do if you're dropping a bunch of things, some of which are worn and some not 22:28:31 <|amethyst> (or, rather, how to do it) 22:29:16 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30:39 <|amethyst> I guess maybe you could drop all the non-worn things immediately without a delay; then schedule delays to remove each worn item, with either a) stacked delays to drop those items, possibly for free; or b) a flag on the unequip delay to say "and drop it when you're done" 22:31:02 <|amethyst> I suspect b) would be simpler and less bug-prone than a stacked free delay 22:31:57 <|amethyst> if somewhat uglier 22:40:38 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:39 -!- TimPB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:43:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:43:48 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:23 |amethyst: seems to me it would be weird if dropping a worn item were faster than taking it off and dropping it 22:50:39 <|amethyst> wheals: apparently that's already the case for wielded items 22:50:50 i know, pretty weird! 22:50:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 22:51:07 <|amethyst> anyway 22:51:12 <|amethyst> this wouldn't be faster 22:51:21 <|amethyst> it's "free", but because you already paid for the drop 22:51:42 <|amethyst> it would be the same time as taking it off first then multidropping 22:51:48 oh, i see, yeah 22:52:12 really for simplicity we should make picking up take one turn per item :P 22:52:50 though realistically this code will never be simple 22:52:53 <|amethyst> DELAY_AUTOPICKUP sounds simple :P 22:52:55 one turn per each of those 72 stones 22:54:06 oh wow URR uses one file 22:54:08 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:54:12 linley's dream come true 22:54:22 we have enough memory these days that you can actually compile :P 22:56:22 <|amethyst> Linley Henzell, Tarn Adams, and Mark Johnson --- the ultimate all-star programming dream team 22:57:19 -!- memories has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:59:42 apparetly in the 0.2 changlog there was an entry that just read: "New god" 22:59:58 we should all strive to be so mysterious 23:00:51 oh interesting, and "Jellies can no longer eat artifacts." 23:01:25 not to mention "Assassins have a chance of starting with a few curare-tipped needles." 23:02:00 probably more randomizations to start than this existed back then, though 23:02:38 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:03:47 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:27 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:56 gammafunk: wizards start with a random ring 23:06:14 dang 23:06:16 -!- daagar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:06:27 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:07:48 -!- gammafunk has quit 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