00:00:16 stupid xom cost me too many fsk 00:00:18 *mfsk 00:00:49 I scummed MuWn quite a bit 00:01:16 not to get an easy win, i just didnt want to play with low int 00:02:32 i scummed muwn to some degree 00:02:50 mostly because i really did not feel like playing really terrible wanderers on a mummy while really tired 00:03:09 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:24 oh and what happened to TSO's piety gain 00:03:30 -!- Holy_Rage has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.4/20150320202338]] 00:03:31 it actually exists now outside of extended 00:05:24 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:08:31 -!- ClawlessVictory has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:08:46 !stats ghee 00:08:46 Starting stats for GhEE: Str 11 Int 10 Dex 9. Stat gain: s/5 00:08:57 !stats muee 00:08:58 Starting stats for MuEE: Str 11 Int 14 Dex 12. Stat gain: none 00:09:03 I could spend WAY too much time with objstats 00:09:13 ??objstat 00:09:13 objstat[1/4]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a full debug console build of crawl ("make debug") to generate item/monster statistics by level/branch; see crawl -help for details 00:09:19 ??objstat[2 00:09:19 objstat[2/4]: Latest statistics: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing 00:09:21 ??objstat[3 00:09:21 objstat[3/4]: See this post for details: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12874&p=182578#p182578 00:09:23 ??objstat[4 00:09:23 objstat[4/4]: obstat todo: table for spells and spell schools like we do weapon/armour egos; don't print buggy rings; don't print monster rows for monster not in the branch; monster band info; default settings for "3-rune" and 15-rune"? 00:09:27 http://anydice.com/program/58df don't even dare looking at this 00:09:30 johnstein: it took me a long time to write, but it's not seen terribly a lot of use 00:09:42 I'm just a stats junkie 00:09:58 i like stats too 00:10:04 trying to think of the best way to parse the file 00:10:08 it being slow to run is part of it, but mostly it's just because guestimating is pretty good for most of development 00:10:16 yeah the format is very adhoc 00:10:29 it's many different tables in one file, which is not ideal at all 00:10:35 i do not like crashing into annoying statistical improbabilities while playing the actual game however 00:10:45 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-411-gd4fac0c (34) 00:10:54 might be better to just make different files for each table 00:11:06 number of files would be way higher, but it'd be easier to work with probably 00:11:26 hey, I use objstat! 00:11:29 what about spitting out a db? 00:11:33 is that dumb? 00:11:39 trolling people is not a use minmay! 00:12:06 johnstein: well it's built into crawl itself, so something like that would involve...well I guess there's sqllite 00:12:11 wait how would I use objstat to troll people. like, even theoretically 00:12:13 *sqlite 00:12:13 heh 00:12:23 that's probably not the worst idea 00:12:35 it's just you need a human-readable format 00:14:25 for my silly RL I worked on a couple years ago a buddy spliced a mysql thing so I could send stats to it. then I just csv'ed it https://github.com/jmbjr/dungeoneer/blob/master/export_sql2csv.bat 00:15:06 yeah, for sure something like that would work, but I can also just write the tables to seperate files pretty easilly 00:15:25 I guess having it as a single db would help people doing cute things with it 00:16:01 but tab-delimited text files are already pretty easy to work with, so... 00:16:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:17:01 -!- Guest80334 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:17:22 yea, depends on who's using it. great to have a nice db to play with, but it's probably more convenient to just spit out tables 00:21:17 if it's public information: how much bandwidth, cpu, ram, disk space does CAO use? 00:22:05 gammafunk: it is kind of annoying that you can't really read them in a text editor without increasing your tab length to something huge 00:22:54 yeah, the long entries for e.g. brands mess things up 00:23:04 I guess just one file per table? that or one for items, one for monsters 00:23:27 how would one file per table change that? 00:23:40 minmay: the weapon table wouldn't mess up the others then 00:23:55 I think the weapon table is the big problem there, although I guess the level names are kind of long too 00:24:07 ??cwz 00:24:07 cwz[1/1]: Crawl server (webtiles-only) located in Korea; the server admin goes by hong on irc. http://webzook.net/ , http://sv1.webzook.net:8080 or http://sv2.webzook.net:8080 00:24:26 how does the weapon table mess up the others? the tables without huge entries look fine to me 00:24:53 yeah I'm actually thinking in a spreadsheet 00:24:58 where this happens 00:25:03 ??servers 00:25:04 servers[1/1]: See {cao}, {cszo}, {cbro} (US), or {cdo}, {clan}, {cxc} (EU), or {cwz}, {lld}, {cpo} (Asia-Pacific). Also http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 00:25:31 oh, a spreadsheet would do that yes 00:25:59 I'm talking about just the plaintext files, in my objstat_AllLevels.txt the tables don't seem to be having an effect on each other 00:26:42 just the long ones are unreadable without extra processing because of column names or entries that are longer than tabs 00:27:01 oh that's you mean, yeah 00:27:28 yeah. If I set tab length to 20 or something then they all look nice except for the brand entries 00:27:38 for which I'd need a tab length of like 00:27:39 2000 00:28:37 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:30:10 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33:10 weird, suddenly mapstat is running really slow 00:33:14 you know what would be extra sweet 00:33:15 it wasn't running slow earlier 00:33:35 for travis builds to include a step which builds a docker image and pushes it up somewhere 00:33:46 and then the update process for servers would just be to pull down that docker image 00:33:48 yea, that would be cool 00:34:02 doy: did you ever check out TZer0's docker stuff? 00:34:11 i guess there'd have to be some way to handle multiple branches 00:34:28 johnstein: where is it? 00:35:07 doy: https://bitbucket.org/TZer0/crawl-docker 00:37:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:37:20 johnstein: so what are the problems with it? 00:37:51 just never got it fully set up 00:38:12 TZer0 was going to do more with it, but I don't think he did 00:38:16 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:38:32 I haven't had time (and I'm pretty docker-ignorant beyond the basics) 00:38:55 also I don't think it had console integration 00:39:20 -!- DrStalker_ has quit [] 00:40:00 doy: it's an interesting idea, since we could just make updates to the docker image for config stuff, but yeah adding branches and server-specific updates 00:40:08 like lld has a bunch of their own UI changes 00:40:21 well they're lobby changes 00:42:49 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:45:10 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:34 -!- SirLicksAlot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:51:28 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:52:32 gammafunk: I'm seeing something weird. I'm setting the WEIGHT for each snake rune vault to 9999, then running mapstat and objstat. 00:52:41 gammafunk: all of them except snake_hunt run pretty quick 00:52:57 that one is a problem? 00:52:58 but snake_hunt is REALLY slow for mapstat and objstat dies halfway through 00:53:04 !vault snake_hunt 00:53:05 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/snake.des;hb=HEAD#l939 00:53:25 maybe the validate routine? 00:53:33 I've never used that stuff before 00:57:49 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:58:17 -!- Kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:59:55 -!- Maud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 Most vetoed levels: 01:00:08 1) Snake:5 (1683 of 1777 vetoed, 94.71%) 01:00:10 hehe 01:00:41 1760 : snake_hunt (-iter 100) 01:00:58 yeah 01:01:01 that's what I figured 01:01:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:01:06 that validation is a bit odd 01:03:04 so mapstat is able to finish, but objstat fails. 01:03:14 oh I see 01:03:30 @??adder 01:03:30 adder (09S) | Spd: 13 (swim: 60%) | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 1/15 | Dam: 508(poison:4-8) | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(10), 12drown | XP: 13 | Sz: little | Int: reptile. 01:03:44 this vault just has some subst and shuffle that should be refactored to something more sane 01:05:21 !calc 12/0.31 01:05:22 38.71 01:07:28 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:10:19 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:17:02 -!- Toztell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:02 -!- Toztell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:27:28 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29:54 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:54 yeah, so it looks like the docker stuff is a good start, but definitely still needs a bunch of work 01:30:01 i'll see if i can fiddle with it 01:30:19 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:54 gammafunk: what is "NumSD" in objstat? 01:37:06 doy: cool! 01:37:07 standard deviation of the number 01:37:32 I've been fiddling with this for a couple hours now. Finally in Excel! 01:37:46 had to run hunt with only 3 iterations to get it to run 01:38:30 johnstein: I have a python script to turn the text file into something libreoffice base can import, and then a macro to turn it into an ods file 01:41:27 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:41:27 that sounds fun 01:43:47 -!- flappity has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:45:29 -!- Amy is now known as Guest95370 01:46:11 -!- Guest95370 is now known as flappity 01:53:08 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 01:57:57 Can't put armour back on 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9604 by gekko 01:57:57 -!- tsq has quit [Client Quit] 01:58:02 hm, well looking at my vault versus the others, I don't see anything particularly standing out 01:58:37 -!- Kittykai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:58:37 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:02:45 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:35 -!- angelichorsey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:35 -!- angelichorsey has left ##crawl-dev 02:05:44 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:06:11 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:11:01 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:14:54 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:15:14 -!- EriktheRed___ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:15:51 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:17:04 -!- joof has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:26:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:27:05 wow, FULLDEBUG is kinda obnoxious 02:28:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:28:53 question about the firecallers 02:29:08 if you break line of sight with them before they finish chanting, does the fire storm fizzle 02:29:56 oh.. 02:30:04 I think the cbro rebuild failed 02:30:08 it should have updated by now 02:31:16 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:31:44 ^version 02:31:44 trunk: 0.17-a0-389-g4a39274; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 02:31:47 %version 02:31:47 trunk: 0.17-a0-411-gd4fac0c; 0.16: 0.16.1-11-g651b585; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 02:31:52 %git 02:31:54 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-411-gd4fac0c: Add firecallers 10(7 hours ago, 17 files, 103+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4fac0c7e851 02:32:06 @version 02:32:21 !version 02:32:23 trunk: not found; 0.16: not found; 0.15: not found; 0.14: not found; 0.13: not found; 0.12: not found; 0.11: not found; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 02:33:09 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:52 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34:50 ??github 02:34:50 github[1/1]: Read-only clone of our repository on github: https://github.com/dcss/crawl 02:35:11 Lasty_: If you break LOS from a firecaller, does the chant fizzle 02:35:42 ??rebuild 02:35:43 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 02:36:47 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:04 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:49 weird, the auto job failed, but manually rebuilding via the website is working 02:42:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:50 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:50:49 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-411-gd4fac0c (34) 02:55:01 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:58:18 -!- Kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:00:09 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:35 -!- DrKe has quit [] 03:24:25 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:29 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.4/20150320202338]] 03:29:36 @??wizard hd:13 spells:firestorm.200.magical 03:29:36 Unknown spell name: 'firestorm' in 'firestorm.200.magical' 03:29:43 @??wizard hd:13 spells:fire_storm.200.magical 03:29:43 wizard (06p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 40-65 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 954 | Sp: fire storm (8d11 / 8d10) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 03:30:03 @??wizard hd:13 spells:fireball 03:30:04 Invalid spell slot format: 'fireball' in 'fireball' 03:30:12 @??wizard hd:13 spells:fireball.200.magical 03:30:12 wizard (06p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 44-66 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 915 | Sp: fireball (3d22) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 03:31:18 @??wizard hd:13 spells:bolt_of_fire.200.magical 03:31:19 wizard (06p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 44-66 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 886 | Sp: b.fire (3d22) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 03:32:09 !tell dpeg You gonna like that: http://bilious.alt.org/rgrn/?131856,131867 03:32:10 bhaak: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 03:35:02 -!- slitherrr has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:35:11 @??tengu_reaver spells:fireballs.100.magical,fire_storm.100.magical 03:35:11 Unknown spell name: 'fireballs' in 'fireballs.100.magical,fire_storm.100.magical' 03:35:15 @??tengu_reaver spells:fireballs.100.magical;fire_storm.100.magical 03:35:15 Unknown spell name: 'fireballs' in 'fireballs.100.magical;fire_storm.100.magical' 03:35:21 @??tengu_reaver spells:fireball.100.magical;fire_storm.100.magical 03:35:21 tengu reaver (13Q) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 17 | HP: 74-99 | AC/EV: 8/16 | Dam: 27, 11, 11 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 2292 | Sp: fireball (3d27) [06!sil], fire storm (8d14 / 8d13) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 03:36:52 !tell Lasty Some things about firecallers: at the hd you've given (I see you made them the same as wizards), firestorm damage is only about 33% more than a wizard casting fireball, which isn't terribly scary. Probably they need to have hd closer to reavers 03:36:53 gammafunk: OK, I'll let lasty know. 03:37:40 !tell Lasty The other thing is that reading fog before the spell trigger will caus them to wast the action, which means it doesn't behave as well as recall. It should probably stay "queued" for use for when the player is next in los, or something? 03:37:40 gammafunk: OK, I'll let lasty know. 03:38:03 !tell Lasty *my terrible spelling 03:38:03 gammafunk: OK, I'll let lasty know. 03:38:52 Is it really necessary to have to specify spell frequency and type for Gretell/Chei queries 03:46:13 keep up ingrateful talk like that and we'll make players specify SQL for all lg and lm queries! 03:46:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:46:13 and write lisp every time you want to query learndb! 03:46:50 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:47:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:51:54 SQL for lg and lm queries would be an improvement of the query interface 03:52:33 not sure I can agree with that 03:59:00 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:06 -!- Kittykai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:02:28 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:02:49 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:04:08 -!- st_ has quit [] 04:14:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:14:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:16:21 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:16:54 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:18:43 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:21:54 I've wanted raw SQL a few times 04:22:22 or maybe some list-comprehension-like language that's a skin over SQL 04:23:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:23:54 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:09 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:26:10 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:45 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:32:40 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:32:44 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:12 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:39:59 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:45:50 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:49:18 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:49:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:58:31 -!- Kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:06:46 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 05:07:37 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:15:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 05:15:48 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:19 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:21:43 -!- ldf_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:22:26 -!- cribozai has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:25:16 -!- ldf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:26:25 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:15 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:30:50 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:34:13 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38:19 -!- walterch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:39:54 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 05:44:13 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:33 -!- Holy_Rage is now known as DwarfCleric 05:53:33 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 05:54:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:58:56 -!- Kittykai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:03:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:09:14 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:11:00 !tell Lasty friendly firecallers crash crawl (good alliteration there), no time to look into it further at the moment 06:11:00 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 06:11:00 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let lasty know. 06:11:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:37 also there's a random mpr("here") when they cast successfully, i assume that's a leftover debug message 06:23:10 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:25:55 %git 06:26:28 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-411-gd4fac0c: Add firecallers 10(11 hours ago, 17 files, 103+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4fac0c7e851 06:26:28 Lasty: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 06:29:20 oh good timing 06:29:47 "[12:12] also there's a random mpr("here") when they cast successfully, i assume that's a leftover debug message" (i don't know if you're reading backlog) 06:29:55 hey mpa 06:29:58 fixing that 06:30:01 and the crash 06:30:10 thanks for the heads-up 06:30:55 no problem, i didn't look into the crash itself but it also looked like they'd just never firestorm anything anyway if you had a friendly one? 06:31:00 looks like maybe mons_foe->pos() isn't defined perhaps 06:31:11 and i think they should show when they're chanting on xv, like convokers do 06:31:53 MarvinPA: ah, definitely. It would be bad for the player if they firestorm as friendlies -- should that be a reason to make them not do it? 06:32:03 They have a reckless disregard for safety 06:33:47 I'm not sure what the precident is there 06:34:33 -!- tingol4 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:34:33 some allies will definitely hit you with aoe, i think they factor in how much damage they're likely to do to other things in order to decide whether it's ok to include you in the aoe though 06:34:57 these guys deliberately do not check for that 06:35:12 or else it'd be too easy to stifle them with other monsters 06:35:13 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:35:19 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:20 i guess having them not cast it is reasonable, but then they should not cast it in the first place rather than chanting and then doing nothing 06:36:29 yes, for sure 06:36:49 anyway! i should get back to work, bye for now 06:37:00 I think for now I'm going to try to let them cast it and later worry about whether it makes them bad allies 06:37:04 awright, thanks 06:37:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:39:26 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:43:30 I hope they at least scream "WHAT" on turn 1, "THE" on turn 2 and "FU-" on turn 3 06:43:41 hahaha 06:44:48 5 06:44:55 oops 06:45:49 bahamut callers 06:51:56 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:45 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:13 -!- Kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:01:58 -!- giann has quit [Quit: Bye!] 07:02:57 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:03:01 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:05:14 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:47 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:25 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:11:25 awright, bugfixes pushed 07:11:36 gonna rebuild laterm but don't have time now 07:11:46 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 07:12:33 <|amethyst> Renamed the org 07:12:38 <|amethyst> ??github 07:12:38 github[1/1]: Read-only clone of our repository on github: https://github.com/dcss/crawl 07:12:47 <|amethyst> !learn edit github s/dcss/crawl/ 07:12:47 github[1/1]: Read-only clone of our repository on github: https://github.com/crawl/crawl 07:13:03 actually, I'm gonna start rebuilds 07:13:15 ??rebuild 07:13:15 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 07:15:34 -!- stuntaneous_e has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:15:34 ugh, gitorious being awful is making this hard 07:15:34 |amethyst: is there a planned date for the github switchover 07:15:42 <|amethyst> no, but "soon" 07:16:03 <|amethyst> I think mostly now we have to update the docs and web site(s), and update the .gitmodules again 07:16:26 <|amethyst> and get the github repo up-to-date 07:16:48 <|amethyst> since the gitorious flakiness means it's not staying in sync very well 07:24:44 Crawl on github is a great news ! 07:24:44 blerg, I don't think I'm going to be able to get these to rebuild right now. they keep timing out. 07:24:44 I'll have to try again later 07:24:44 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:24:44 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:26:02 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 07:26:02 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 07:26:02 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 07:29:11 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:36:17 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:36:40 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:26 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 07:39:41 do the servers even have firecallers, or did any of them switch to the github after they got added? 07:39:51 er, before they got added 07:40:15 <|amethyst> &versions trunk 07:42:20 "Summary 0009604: Can't put armour back on 07:42:20 Description Wherever I play a vinestalker conjurer (maybe others), I take off the robe and when I try to put it back on I get the message: You can't wield armour." 07:42:20 Time limit of 60s exceeded 07:42:20 <|amethyst> wheals: I wonder if that's a modifier thing 07:42:20 <|amethyst> though I think that was only affecting the mouse? 07:42:20 view advanced says it's webtiles 07:43:31 if it were local, i might be afraid my you_can_wear changes somehow made clicking on armour think you should wield it :P 07:45:04 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:48:33 allow wielding armour 07:48:35 problem solved 07:48:42 |amethyst: did you have 'crawl' on github from long ago? 07:50:09 <|amethyst> no, I requested a release, and they obliged 07:50:48 that was friendly of them 07:51:00 <|amethyst> "they" = github 07:51:09 <|amethyst> that's their policy if the org is unused 07:51:31 <|amethyst> and this one was in fact unused (as opposed to having active private repos) 07:54:36 if only we could get the dungeoncrawl.org guy to give/sell us the domain 07:54:48 just allow eating armor and then it will be the same thing as wielding bread 07:54:57 or at least link to us and note that Linley's DC hasn't been updated in a decade 07:55:03 <|amethyst> bh: chequers has dcssgame.com 07:58:34 03Lasty02 07* 0.17-a0-412-g57f2937: Fix some firecaller bugs 10(51 minutes ago, 4 files, 11+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=57f29372f39c 07:58:51 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:59:08 -!- Kittykai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:09:19 !nchoice.possible 08:09:21 Possible next Nemelex' Choices: CeCj CeIE DDAE DDEn DDIE DEAK DEHu DETm FoAE FoCj FoEn FoFE FoIE FoNe FoTm FoWz GhAM GhEn GhSk GhSu HaEn HaFE HaSu HEEE HOCj KoAE MfCj MuEE MuWr SpSu TeAM TeEn TeWr TrSk TrVM VpAE VSAM VSCj VSEE VSFE 08:09:35 you'll need a new race for .17 at this rate 08:11:10 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:11:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 08:15:58 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:17:45 !fight ghost moth v orb of fire t:99 delay:0 08:33:57 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:49 greensnark: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/issues/41 08:37:24 ADOM has a very pretty new website: http://www.adom.de/home/index.html 08:37:40 I'm sooo tickled by the screenshot of the wiki, open to the "Scumming" page 08:37:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 08:38:22 clearly we need to bring back victory dancing before releasing on steam 08:39:24 Wensley: microtransactions for auto-victory dancing 08:40:41 -!- Sczcya has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:04 ack what's with all these filty unroguelikes 08:42:10 what do you have against unangband and unnethack 08:42:44 unpermadeath 08:45:25 unbelievable 08:48:15 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:15 -!- Sczcya has left ##crawl-dev 08:54:57 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 09:02:54 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET �� Zero IRC �� Ver 2.9G] 09:02:57 you know 09:03:11 it'd probably work to just remove the crawl-ref directory and replace it with a symlink to .. 09:03:28 to avoid being disruptive 09:07:05 i think i'll give that a shot this evening 09:07:08 Doesn't hit handle symlinks weird on windows? 09:07:11 Git 09:07:17 well 09:07:24 the intention is to avoid being disruptive to server admins 09:07:32 and there are no crawl servers running on windows 09:07:45 it doesn't actually matter for anyone else 09:07:47 Agreed 09:07:53 Ok 09:09:31 03doy02 07* 0.17-a0-413-g671d411: update submodule locations 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=671d411ba245 09:09:33 I think for the cszo type servers the crawl repo is set by a single config file so I was mentally preparing to fix that and maybe have to repull or something. But really I was waiting for |amethyst to tell me how he fixed it for cszo 09:10:25 symlinks are ok on windows 09:11:07 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11:18 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:15 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:13:23 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:57 anyway, at this point, there's nothing stopping servers from pointing their repositories over to github 09:14:22 we can probably make the switchover as soon as all the servers do that, unless there's something i'm forgetting 09:18:29 doy: cbro has been pointed at gh for a few days now. but last night the cron job build failed 09:18:45 manually rebuilding worked. so I'll just keep an eye on it 09:19:16 %git 09:19:16 07doy02 * 0.17-a0-413-g671d411: update submodule locations 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=671d411ba245 09:19:22 %git HEAD^^ 09:19:25 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-411-gd4fac0c: Add firecallers 10(14 hours ago, 17 files, 103+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4fac0c7e851 09:20:14 !tell ontoclasm I - the +5 halberd "Lacertilianslayer" {elec, rF+ Int+3 SInv Stlth+} 09:20:14 wheals: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 09:23:05 johnstein: failed how? 09:26:57 dungeoncrawl.org: Revised game documentation is on its way. Expect to see progress made before the end of February 2002. 09:27:21 -!- DwarfCleric has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.4/20150320202338]] 09:28:24 its hilarious how that guy updates the site but doesn't mentioned dcss 09:29:00 yeah 09:29:11 we've been in contact with him several times, with no particular luck 09:31:46 hahahaha http://dungeoncrawl.org/?c.h 09:31:53 doy: error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 500 09:31:55 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly 09:32:18 assuming my log file is correct (should be. last edited today) 09:32:48 though I don't see the successful web-rebuild in there. I should look into that 09:34:51 it's possible it's just because the submodules weren't updated to point to the right place yet 09:35:07 doy: I like the wisdom at the bottom of http://dungeoncrawl.org/?c.w 09:35:43 "revised 10 February 2014, 12:59 pm EST (config)" clearly it's not that stale 09:35:44 (: 09:36:09 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:16 doy: ah yea maybe. but why would a manual web-rebuild work? 09:36:25 johnstein: shrug! 09:36:38 heh 09:38:25 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:39:49 johnstein when you get a chance, please lmk what i need to do to clone one of the existing public servers with Docker 09:40:10 Wow so many of the quotes on http://dungeoncrawl.org/?l.q are still relevant 09:40:20 "I think I'll hold off playing [Crawl] until it hits at least version 9. Maybe half of the bugs will be gone by then... It could have been good if not for the constant bug fixes and releases." 09:40:31 "[Download] and play Linley's Dungeon Crawl, and get yourself thrown into the Abyss. You'll see how much fun it is to be clueless." 09:40:46 16 years later, the abyss is still "fun" 09:41:10 "Crawl development goes so quickly that I'm always trying new versions without ever sitting down and trying to squash the bugs." <--- .16 09:41:15 ;) 09:41:22 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:44 rast current docker page: https://bitbucket.org/TZer0/crawl-docker. TZer0 is the maintainer. doy was going to work on it in his spare time since TZer0 hasn't had much time to make any updates 09:44:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:44 in theory, does that page have the outlines of what i need to do? 09:45:09 it has a readme, although not incredibly extensive 09:45:13 and some things are broken 09:45:49 i don't think it's ready to use as an actual server for other people to use yet 09:45:55 ah 09:45:59 (although it is a good start) 09:48:48 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:50:32 yea. you should be able to get a public server spun up. but all the other stuff isn't done 09:50:33 ie you can play a game 09:50:48 but no DGL or console or a good rebuild process etc 09:51:15 it also has a built in server boy for announcements 09:51:18 bot 09:51:23 ugh autocorrext 09:51:27 -!- tingol4 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:51:35 oh where were you *that* time?! 09:52:08 no, it seems to have dgl+console basically working 09:52:17 the webtiles server was broken though 09:52:53 and a lot of the maintenance side of things still has to be done manually 09:56:06 webtiles was broken? 09:56:06 that worked for me 09:59:13 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:01:36 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:06 what kind of maintenance? 10:08:20 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:12:13 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 10:15:51 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:09 -!- orionstein has quit [Client Quit] 10:27:24 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:29 -!- morfei has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:34:30 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:36:19 Where can I find a list of gods color in console mode ? 10:36:28 You Trog is red '_'... 10:36:31 know* 10:37:27 many of them change colours 10:37:47 feature-data.h 10:38:24 ALTAR(... 10:38:25 thx :) 10:42:29 apparently ?/G doesn't match the altar colours for some reason 10:42:29 oh nvm it's just the flashy altars 10:42:29 oh no it isn't, ash is yellow even though the altar is red 10:51:30 "Linley is a genius for actually doing a new thing, and worrying about the algorithms later." 10:52:38 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:02 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:53:11 agh someone delted the learndb entry with all the terrible algorithms I collected :( 11:00:04 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:00:13 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:03:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:10:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:12:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:12:17 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:19 !seen Napkin 11:12:19 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:12:20 I last saw Napkin at Wed Apr 1 07:26:13 2015 UTC (1d 8h 46m 6s ago) saying 'np, |amethyst, thanks' on ##crawl-dev. 11:12:28 !messages 11:12:28 (1/1) bhaak said (7h 40m 18s ago): You gonna like that: http://bilious.alt.org/rgrn/?131856,131867 11:13:25 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:14:11 wazzup, dpeg? how's it going? :) 11:14:46 Napkin: hi there! Just thought the communication about github etc. would be easier on ##crawl-dev than by email... but you are already here :) 11:15:14 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:15:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:16:05 bhaak: wow, what an aggressive reply? Where's your Swiss modesty? :) 11:16:56 * dpeg wonders if the sleeping giant will really get up and walk again... or get up and drop dead. 11:21:24 bhaak: you should have gone more over the top 11:21:24 people might think you believe it :P 11:21:24 wait, there really was a leak of a new nethack version? 11:21:24 yeah that part is real 11:21:24 that's.. curious 11:21:24 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:22:38 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:38 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 11:22:40 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 11:23:30 alright, I am preparing a c-r-d mail about slow-moving monster... speak up now if you think that timing is inopportune 11:25:05 !tell Lasty So if you break LOS with firecallers, do they still cast fire storm if they finish chanting it? 11:25:06 Lightli: OK, I'll let lasty know. 11:25:57 c-r-d: What slow moving monsters would you keep? 11:26:09 derp, I meant dpeg 11:29:14 we need a new, slower, more powerful, more petrifying catoblepas 11:29:25 the catastrophas 11:33:11 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:37:59 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:48 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:51 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 11:42:09 FR: when you die, instead of just showing you your inventory go through and show the player what items they could have used to avoid dying 11:42:14 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:22 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42:34 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 11:42:35 -!- Frenoss has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:47 Is the repo still down? 11:44:00 <|amethyst> !source god_message_alktar_colour 11:44:00 Can't find god_message_alktar_colour. 11:44:00 <|amethyst> !source god_message_altar_colour 11:44:00 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/religion.cc;hb=HEAD#l4216 11:44:00 <|amethyst> ashenzari is just missing there 11:44:56 What's the deal with the repo? I still can't pull.. 11:46:46 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:47:07 <|amethyst> gitorious is being broken and only ssh works (which requires you to have an account) 11:47:14 <|amethyst> you could pull from the github repo instead 11:47:39 <|amethyst> except that is not in sync right now because the mirroring script also can't get to gitorious :( 11:47:56 Well, I'll have to wait then. Thanks for info. 11:48:24 <|amethyst> oh, or maybe it is 11:48:52 <|amethyst> ah, yes 11:48:59 <|amethyst> the github repo is up to date after all 11:49:06 <|amethyst> ??github 11:49:07 github[1/1]: Read-only clone of our repository on github: https://github.com/crawl/crawl 11:49:28 Hmm, would changing url be enough? Or does the github repo has different structure or something? 11:49:39 <|amethyst> it's the same, just changing the URL should be fine 11:49:48 <|amethyst> git://github.com/crawl/crawl.git (or https:) 11:50:54 Testing.. 11:51:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:24 Well, it appears to have worked, except I got like 20 new branches 11:51:44 Called "gitorious-merge-requests/(stuff)" 11:51:49 <|amethyst> ah 11:52:06 <|amethyst> yeah, that's because the gitorious merge requests can't easily be converted to github pull requests 11:52:15 <|amethyst> so they appear as branches 11:52:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:53:28 <|amethyst> (they were branches all along, but under refs/merge-requests rather than refs/heads) 11:53:31 Hmm, also I meant to ask for long time, but why do I get a lot of errors about "known incorrect sRGB profile"? 11:53:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:53:39 when compiling 11:53:43 I mean, warnings 11:53:49 It compiles and works anyway 11:54:14 <|amethyst> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22745076/libpng-warning-iccp-known-incorrect-srgb-profile 11:55:16 <|amethyst> though I wonder why we have things that would give that warning... our images in the repo should have already been optimised, which should have removed the profile 11:55:28 <|amethyst> what images do you get that warning for? 11:56:24 <|amethyst> oh 11:56:36 <|amethyst> the warnings don't list a filename, do they 11:57:07 Well, they do come after files 11:57:15 So I guess that would be the problematic files 11:57:22 <|amethyst> for example? 11:57:24 What's more interesitng, I get them after .png, but after some .c 11:57:31 kvaak: giann: there are two different lists of god colours, used in different places. god_message_altar_colour() is the one that kvaak didn't mention, I think? 11:57:40 <|amethyst> you're building with make -j ? 11:57:44 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:57:51 "main.png", then just after that "tiledef-main.h" 11:57:51 PleasingFungus: yeah, I only checked ?/G and altar_foo 11:57:51 !source god_message_altar_colour 11:57:51 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/religion.cc;hb=HEAD#l4216 11:57:57 ^ this one 11:58:00 <|amethyst> that would make the errors not appear immediately after the problematic command 11:58:08 Uh, -j? Not sure, I use an alias and don't even remember what params I have 11:58:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:27 oh, right above that is god_colour(), forgot about that 11:58:29 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:30 <|amethyst> MIC132: so one of the inputs to main.png is probably unstripped, but there are hundreds of tiles that go into that 11:59:12 I also got something like that (unrelated): 11:59:14 hiscores.cc: In member function 'void scorefile_entry::set_score_fields() const': 11:59:14 hiscores.cc:1154:18: warning: declaration of 'killer' shadows a member of 'this' [-Wshadow] 11:59:14 const string killer = death_source_desc(); 11:59:25 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:41 Apart form that and multiple those sRGB stuffs it's going well. 11:59:43 <|amethyst> yeah, that one's known 12:00:28 bhaak: lmao at the person complaining that the nethack dev team didn't add "myself... or Amy, from SlashEm Extended" 12:00:35 also the general passive-aggressiveness 12:01:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: not sure if you're being sarcastic or didn't notice who that person was 12:01:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:02:21 it's the second thing 12:02:49 oops 12:02:55 -!- PleasingFungus has left ##crawl-dev 12:03:28 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:30 oops 12:03:33 typing is hard 12:07:54 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:32 Lightli: if you break LOS during the time where the chant completes, the firecaller doesn't Fire Storm you. If you leave LOS and then return to LOS before the chant finishes, you get Fire Stormed. 12:15:10 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:19:32 Lasty_: Congrats, all you need to do is give them high movement speed, access to animate dead, and make them demonic, and you have archvilles from doom 2 12:19:41 *archviles 12:19:51 I'll put in a patch for that later 12:19:55 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:05 ?? doom 12:20:05 doom checklist[1/1]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e473d029e917 12:20:06 have you run into one yet? 12:21:11 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:29 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22:46 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:29:30 Lightli: not so many, I'd think (involved with domestic duties, only partially at keyboard). Stuff that has gimmicks to counteract kiting. 12:30:35 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-413-g671d411 (34) 12:30:59 -!- causative has quit [Changing host] 12:32:09 Lasty_: no 12:32:37 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:47 dpeg: So catepoleas or however you spell them, Gastronok, what else 12:33:08 -!- Lasty_1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:34:01 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:22 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:37:38 !lg * killer=firecaller 12:37:39 1. Loading the Minotaur Blade (L15 MiBe of Trog), incinerated by a firecaller (sticky flame) on D:15 on 2015-04-02 09:47:52, with 88857 points after 24571 turns and 1:01:51. 12:37:51 dang, sticky flame 12:38:01 !lg * killer=firecaller -log 12:38:02 1. Loading, XL15 MiBe, T:24571: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Loading/morgue-Loading-20150402-094752.txt 12:41:06