00:02:03 hoping one of yall can tell me why there can be four different fuckers with the same name "serpent of hell" but i can`t have two enemies named "the great exhaler" 00:02:44 pardon the language 00:03:05 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 00:06:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-187-g2c20d37: Don't allow cancelling accidental attacks (SevenDeadlySins) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c20d37d7c87 00:06:01 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-3-g4395aab: Don't allow cancelling accidental attacks (SevenDeadlySins) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4395aab8491b 00:06:47 twelwe: is the enum differant? 00:07:35 the serpent of hell is a weird hack 00:07:44 it has a lot of special cases in the code 00:07:45 iirc 00:07:49 sorry pal i don`t even know wtf enum is. it doesn`t matter really its just a weird question 00:08:01 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:14 i never do extended because people tell me to go to hell all the time and i don`t want to validate them 00:09:59 heh. 00:10:11 !tell lasty !lg hilariousdeathartist depths 00:10:12 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 00:11:02 Does lasty collect caustic shrike deaths or something? 00:11:03 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:11:38 why not? 00:11:41 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-186-g8d083fd (34) 00:11:47 !killratio robin * t !meleebug 00:11:51 robin wins 20.94% of battles against * (t !meleebug). 00:11:56 !killratio robin * t meleebug 00:11:59 robin wins 17.22% of battles against * (t meleebug). 00:12:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-188-ge4a03fd: Don't crash on PgUp in an empty formatted_scroller (gw) 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4a03fd018e0 00:12:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-189-g98a9229: Fix some sign warnings. 10(85 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=98a92296598a 00:12:05 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.1-4-g8e1b745: Don't crash on PgUp in an empty formatted_scroller (gw) 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e1b7458561b 00:12:09 surprisingly close 00:12:09 its the helmet 00:12:11 <|amethyst> gw, fuzzer of inputs 00:12:19 I am glad of player death. 00:12:28 !send |amethyst more fuzziness 00:12:28 Sending more fuzziness to |amethyst. 00:12:49 uniques with helmets are much stronger than them as don`t have headgear 00:13:31 can't get the sikk headshotz 00:13:33 <|amethyst> oh, hm 00:13:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: just noticed another problem 00:13:51 ? 00:15:01 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:15:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-190-g181436a: Don't bump into a fencepost. 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=181436a08d5e 00:15:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: ^ 00:17:09 nice :) 00:17:17 gw-commits activated 00:17:36 !gitgrep 2 \(gw\) 00:17:36 %git HEAD^{/(gw)}^^{/(gw)} 00:17:36 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-109-g04239eb: Handle 80-character prompts better under clear_messages (gw) 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 10+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=04239ebb9d4c 00:17:41 !gitgrep 3 \(gw\) 00:17:42 %git HEAD^{/(gw)}^^{/(gw)}^^{/(gw)} 00:17:42 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-4053-g5391420: Use %zu, not %Iu, when using mingw's (s)printf (johnny0) 10(5 weeks ago, 2 files, 4+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5391420c79ab 00:17:44 -!- QuailChaser has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:17:49 !gitgrep 3 \\\(gw\\\) 00:17:49 %git HEAD^{/\(gw\)}^^{/\(gw\)}^^{/\(gw\)} 00:17:49 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-372-gb8c2cf9: Expose a monster's "speed description" in clua (gw). 10(7 months ago, 4 files, 22+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8c2cf9905ed 00:18:45 !gitgrep 1 \\\(qw\\\) 00:18:45 %git HEAD^{/\(qw\)} 00:18:45 07elliptic02 * 0.17-a0-51-g28bcb14: Still spend a turn when attempting to burn a spellbook mimic (qw). 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=28bcb14a15f4 00:18:50 !gitgrep 2 \\\(qw\\\) 00:18:51 %git HEAD^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)} 00:18:53 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-3644-g588fcbe: Let fungusformed players stumble around while confused with monsters around (qw). 10(10 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=588fcbe0a834 00:18:58 qw has tons and tons of commits. 00:19:01 IIRC 00:19:05 !gitgrep 1 \\\(xw\\\) 00:19:05 %git HEAD^{/\(xw\)} 00:19:06 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-1061-g2968064: Fix enchantments going through bushes (xw) 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2968064d2030 00:19:10 !gitgrep 10 \\\(qw\\\) 00:19:10 %git HEAD^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)}^^{/\(qw\)} 00:19:11 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-223-g37887f7: Replace an armour swap delay hack with an armour swap delay hack (qw). 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37887f78bc45 00:19:26 xw didn't play this year D: 00:19:34 !lg xw t 00:19:35 No games for xw (t). 00:20:13 -!- rubycowgames has quit [Quit: rubycowgames] 00:20:16 <|amethyst> 6 commits for gw, 18 for qw, 1 for xw 00:24:19 |amethyst: honestly surprised I didn't run into the fencepost in my million-name stress-test runs 00:26:37 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-186-g8d083fd (34) 00:28:09 Stable (0.16) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16.1-4-g8e1b745 00:28:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it's never called with an out-of-range value 00:29:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: cons_seed is always between 0 and 66 00:29:47 huh 00:32:13 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:33:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:33:39 is gw source public? 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Hmm. 00:44:03 should've left a comment about why 00:44:04 I'll do that now 00:44:36 wait, no, I'm in the process of refactoring this function away 00:44:58 reaverb: random_choose_weighted stops the moment it hits a '0' weight 00:45:13 Is crawls LoS raycast sim based? Still trying to copy close as possible for now. 00:45:43 Ouch. 00:45:54 it would have been almost unnoticeable even in game 00:46:03 those 0.2% acquirement chances... 00:46:24 Although why exactly is fire dragon armour slightly more likely than ice dragon armour? 00:46:27 actually, that's for god gifts, so yeah I don't think it would have made any difference at all in practice 00:46:29 man fuck if I know. 00:46:33 Or is it just replicating the original ah. 00:46:35 Last time I did an LoS algorithm I used the circle to raster graphics algorithm then attempted to raycast to all those points...that close enough? 00:46:36 yeah 00:46:37 Might be worth removing. 00:46:41 elliptic: wow, qw ignores artifact rings & amulets? 00:46:46 yes I'm rewriting all of this 00:47:00 re-rewriting 00:47:04 hm 00:47:06 rerererererere 00:47:08 aw 00:47:18 I guess I don't know the secret of activating keys 00:47:25 rewrewrew 00:47:32 ripw 00:49:01 -!- ololoev has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:49:52 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:29 chequers: yes, until fairly recently there was no good way for qw to read artifact properties 00:52:08 i noticed gw implemented it so I'll guess you'll, er, backport it? 00:52:11 a tragic case of bot illiteracy..... 00:52:16 chequers: and I haven't gotten around to enabling them in qw after I implemented the lua for it 00:53:33 chequers: gw is not a qw fork (though I think Grunt did borrow some lua) 00:53:48 yep, the item identification is copied 00:53:53 *valuation 00:54:02 I didn't know that gw used the artefact lua I added though 00:54:04 &rc gw 00:54:05 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.16/gw.rc 00:54:36 oh, it doesn't 00:55:21 -!- vickk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:56:03 chequers: it looks like gw doesn't really evaluate randart jewellery very intelligently 00:56:18 yeah 00:57:28 wear ALL the BLING 00:57:46 hahah 00:58:00 value jewelery by length of name 00:58:20 it.artprops is a table with randart properties in a reasonable format so that should be used now, I only use it a little bit with qw at the moment though 01:13:39 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:17:44 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:45 The build passed. 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(master - 760d09b #2048 : Lamil Lerran): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/55900369 02:00:02 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:00:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:00:49 -!- vale_ has quit [Client Quit] 02:02:09 are there tests I should have done beyond building and running it on my local system? 02:02:19 because I did not get build errors locally 02:02:33 (or is that not what that message means?) 02:03:09 <|amethyst> if you look at the error log, it's because sometimes travis has problems connecting to the PPA with g++-4.8 02:03:24 <|amethyst> https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/jobs/55900388 02:03:31 <|amethyst> is the only failed run 02:03:41 <|amethyst> so nothing you did :) 02:04:25 oh, ok, cool 02:05:19 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus I think "Jtruagg" is probably not a great Jiyva name (fix incoming) 02:05:19 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:05:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-200-gf9305fc: Don't start Jiyva's second name with j + consonant. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9305fc99d49 02:10:13 -!- rk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:10:40 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus also, I think some of those if (name.length() && (_is_consonant(first_char)...) can have the length check removed, since first_char will be '\0' which isn't a consonant 02:10:41 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:18:03 <|amethyst> %git 202e82eb4 02:18:04 07Sage02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-2115-g202e82eb: Make vine stalker bite's mana drain key off of current mana. 10(8 years ago, 1 file, 12+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=202e82eb40d4 02:18:13 <|amethyst> Sage is a time traveller 02:21:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:22:13 |amethyst: just make sure it can still generate Jiyva Jiyva 02:22:26 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16.1-4-g8e1b745 02:24:54 -!- angelichorsey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:30:20 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:47 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:32:07 -!- Silas is now known as fazisi 02:33:53 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:21 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:36:44 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:19 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:20 The build has errored. (master - ba09013 #2049 : Zannick): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/55902528 02:39:20 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:40:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:41:42 Are all portals guaranteed to (or supposed to) have a nearby exit always? 02:42:00 Design rule question, in other words. 02:42:39 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:43:50 -!- Basil has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 02:46:27 -!- rockit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:46:31 -!- rockit_ is now known as rockit 02:48:59 -!- radinms_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:49:26 you didn't read the des docs 02:54:30 -!- Lamil has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:07:01 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:14:45 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:16:29 -!- meatpath has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:27 -!- magicpoints has quit [] 03:25:59 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35:33 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:42:01 -!- ssteam has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 03:46:03 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:54:01 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:59:05 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:07:10 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:10:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:14:48 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:15:50 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:09 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:25:47 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:27:38 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:30:56 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:49:13 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:01:43 -!- honeybadger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:10:35 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:25:29 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:26:50 -!- wat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:29:01 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:08 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:32:13 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:33:25 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:41:00 abixa (L13 DgSk) ASSERT(in_diamond_int(r->start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 166 failed. 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Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 11:46:37 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:55:14 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:56 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:02:42 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16.1-4-g8e1b745 12:11:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:13:19 -!- psuedo has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 12:15:43 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:21:18 are alich servors supposed to have more HD than aliches 12:21:20 *servitors 12:23:51 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:26:28 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:27:01 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:24 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:14 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:04 -!- SurpriseTRex__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:34:35 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:39:21 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:40:50 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:43:02 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:14 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:53 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:51:20 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:53:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:00:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:18 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:07:52 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:22:18 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:22:58 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 13:23:44 -!- tingol4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:24:45 looks like wheals... 13:24:46 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:24:52 !glasses 13:24:53 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 13:24:55 ...can't spot the bug 13:25:10 !messages 13:25:10 (1/2) Grunt said (4h 32m 6s ago): as the resident mucking-about-with-options person: can you figure out why show_more doesn't apply to the opening spiel and the game will show a -more- always if there's a lot of opening text? gw and qw would be very grateful 13:25:12 !messages 13:25:13 (1/1) Grunt said (4h 31m 54s ago): start some AKs for the fastest way to trigger that issue 13:27:05 Would anyone mind if I made it so that you can't shadow step firewood? 13:28:04 -- "Volcano" functions. While the sizes may appear extreme, they are carefully 13:28:05 -- weighted and balanced and have been tested extensively. 13:28:13 what a comment 13:28:19 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:28:36 do you doubt our weighting and balancing and testing process?!?! 13:30:40 never 13:31:06 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-201-g1b7cd97: Don't make staves of Summoning abjure on hit 10(23 hours ago, 3 files, 1+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b7cd977181a 13:37:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-202-g35444b0: Don't let species that can't wear body armour mutate deformed body 10(21 hours ago, 3 files, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=35444b03f2b2 13:37:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-203-g1576742: Don't make unbreathing mutation conflict with breath weapon mutations 10(21 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1576742d6159 13:37:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-204-g1e248c9: Merge Spit/Breathe Poison mutations, give Nagas Spit Poison 2 10(24 hours ago, 9 files, 38+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e248c999408 13:37:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-205-gb91930f: Make breath weapon mutations conflict 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b91930f21f49 13:37:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-206-g033d194: Make tiny volcanoes tinier 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=033d194f7831 13:37:04 to be fair i think fog machines work in a completely different way to how they did when that comment was made! but i'm also not sure there's ever been a point where volcanoes couldn't drop flame clouds on you the same turn you entered 13:37:04 the brilliance of that comment is in its self-evident truthfulness 13:37:04 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38:20 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:20 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 13:38:20 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 13:39:33 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:10 MarvinPA: is -cTele coming soon after tournament, or are there still issue to figure out there? 13:40:23 -!- Walttt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:43:04 just curious by why does the team scoring page not show " 13:43:04 Remaining Species" 13:43:04 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:44:13 wheals: please! no more Op! We had to coach poor ontoclasm through OpSu last night by the slimmest of margins and we're not out of the woods there yet either! 13:45:06 oh weird 13:45:14 I think I just found a subtle bug wrt summons 13:45:26 went down stairs to robin and gang 13:45:29 with two g adjacent 13:45:42 had gone down > at the end of a hall 13:46:10 so when I went back up it should have been: #### 13:46:17 .gg@# 13:46:20 ##### 13:46:23 something like that 13:46:30 but instead it was ##### 13:46:37 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:46:46 er 13:47:04 X%%@# 13:47:05 ##### 13:47:10 pretend % is a cloud 13:47:20 and the g ended up at X and beyond that 13:47:21 -!- dosman711 has left ##crawl-dev 13:47:21 gammafunk: i don't think there are many issues to work out but i haven't started (re)writing the patch for it yet 13:47:41 gammafunk: as in, your summons came with you, then vanished, but in doing so displaced the goblin? 13:47:57 Lasty_: they didn't come with, it seems that they vanished when I came *back* 13:48:10 I got the summons left behind message 13:48:10 and they didn't appear below with me 13:48:15 but it seems they didn't expire 13:48:17 until coming back up 13:48:21 gammafunk: oh, I see 13:48:24 hence they displaced the g 13:48:41 (secret anti-robin tech) 13:49:04 it actually is kind of bad 13:49:06 Lasty_: did you see mps is straight up spitting out gamergate rhetoric now 13:49:28 since it'd be a way to use summons to protect yourself when taking stairs 13:49:40 I think I've seen something like that before. I also had some cases where, IIRC, I was able to pull enemy summons up stairs where they immediately unsummoned, allowing me to go right back down stairs -- I think it was Mara player clones, maybe? 13:50:31 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:50:59 minmay: I had the impression he was trying to be ironic, but who fucking knows. I'm seriously considering starting a conversation about banning him for constantly posting garbage posts full of hostile bullshit. 13:51:24 gammafunk: yeah, we probably need to do something about that 13:52:28 Lasty_: I thought so too until he made like 3 more posts about it 13:52:33 oh 13:52:38 in that case, I may speed up that process 13:52:43 gammafunk: presumably it's teh dead list 13:52:45 the* 13:52:50 Lasty_: if you start banning people for garbage hostile bullshit you'll probably have to include me, though 13:53:00 ontoclasm: dead list?! 13:53:09 are you talking about our OpSu ontoclasm 13:53:56 er, no 13:53:56 about summons expiring at the wrong time 13:53:56 minmay: your hostile posts aren't consistently garbage, imo 13:53:57 you know how it handles stuff that dies on floors you're not on 13:54:08 half of mps's posts are just "wtf" or "lol" or something equally pointless, and when he takes the time to express himself more fully, somehow there's no additional content. 13:55:17 On the other hand, Bloax hasn't been banned for his gamergate bullshit, but he usually doesn't bring it up in Tavern 13:56:12 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:57:12 Lasty_: Yeah, I don't think mps is a very good poster, but he's not launching personal attacks either. I'm not sure it's very fair to single out mps in particular, but it's kind of a question of "what sort of tavern community do we want" 13:57:21 No posts were found because the word sjw is not contained in any post. 13:57:24 and no I'm not using the phrase tavern community ironically 13:57:29 I guess we can wait a little longer 13:57:59 duvessa definitely could have been banned by some metrics, even though his posts are occassionally useful 13:58:00 more seriously though I don't think you can reasonably ban mps 13:58:24 -!- dosman711 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:58:37 if you want to regulate tavern discussion meaningfully there probably needs to be like...actual rules on tavern 13:58:38 we could probably just ban duvessa and make crate a counselor to offset the negative cost 13:58:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:58:51 Probably not, and I definitely should not be the one to pull the trigger, because I hate mps. 13:59:25 galehar wanted to make me a mod like 3 years ago 13:59:49 I miss galehar 13:59:58 I feel like right at about the same time I got made a councellor I also completely lost my patience will all the terrible posters who constantly post garbage. 14:00:09 minmay: fair point. Right now it's pretty much the wild west. 14:00:57 I think the two events were unrelated, but it's bad timing. I feel like I used to have way more patience for it . . . 14:01:04 what on earth is this vault.... 14:01:24 probably I should not bring up tavern bullshit in -dev at all 14:01:36 But maybe I just need to take a step back, assume that all tavern posts will be garbage, and then get pleasantly surprised when something good gets posted. 14:02:08 Lasty_: I think of what my understanding of the game was when I first began playing 14:02:37 Lasty_: I beat nethack by reading the nethack wiki and through a lot of trial and error, and came to crawl having done the same with the crawl wiki, and then "joined the community" 14:02:43 so a lot of my thinking was just very wrong 14:02:53 it took me quite some time to understand the game better 14:03:17 -!- dosman711 has quit [Client Quit] 14:03:23 gammafunk: oh, absolutely. It took me a year or two after starting to read the tavern before I had any idea what I was talking about, I'm sure. I'm confident that I posted lots of stupid questions and terrible ideas. 14:03:42 But stupid questions and terrible ideas don't bother me at all -- that's a natural part of understanding the larger community 14:03:53 Lasty_: yeah, I didn't post a lot, but certainly had all sorts of strident opinions "since I had one a difficult 15 rune character" 14:03:58 *won 14:04:10 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:20 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:04:40 Lasty_: you're educating the world's youth! What you do requires great love and patience.... 14:05:59 What gets under my skin is people who consistently make conversations about themselves instead of the game by using rhetorical tricks and sheer bloody-mindedness. People who religiously hold arbitrary opinions out of a seeming terror of being shown to be wrong. People who refuse to agree that other people could be right on principle. 14:06:18 gammafunk: I came here to chew love and kick patience, and I'm all out of love. 14:06:26 haha 14:08:11 Lasty_: yeah I think that stubborness does boil down to "youth" in many ways. There's just a strong urge to wade into an argument and "be really smart" if your a teenager or 20-something, and just being objectively as correct as possible is not as alluring 14:08:29 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:37 Lasty_: I hate those people, but I just tend to either terrify them or ignore them, whichever serves my point best 14:08:46 it doesn't work on the internet 14:09:21 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:09:21 -!- tw12we has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:09:48 gammafunk: yeah. I've tried to advocate for and exhibit the idea of bringing humility to the discussion, an openness to the possibility that you will discover that you're wrong and a willingness to admit it and learn from it. I'm sure I've failed on both counts plenty of times . . . 14:09:58 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:01 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:10:05 and I'm not sure it's done any good 14:11:31 Lasty_: yeah it's not like I post with much of that decorum either; I snipe bad arguments which tends to set people off even further...but it feels good to make them think! 14:11:42 . . . but they don't think 14:12:45 It'd be easier to take the attitude of "I said my piece, now I'm done" if the awful posters didn't post so very, very much. It feels like it drowns out the regular good posters, who presumably have better things to do with their time. 14:12:51 yeah 14:13:19 Interestingly, I think people do actually think about my responses and sometimes they respond with at least a partially good point and I have to think some more. People tend to just no acknowledge that they're wrong, which makes the process feel frustrating 14:13:36 Well, that's encouraging-ish 14:16:43 My experience has been that generally people reply only to the least substantive parts of my posts, which is really frustrating. 14:16:45 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:17:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:17:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:26 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:26:39 @??centaaur 14:26:40 unknown monster: "centaaur" 14:26:42 @??centaur 14:26:42 centaur (07c) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 13-29 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, archer | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 112 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 14:27:10 !lg * cv>=16-a s=cv 14:27:10 No games for * (cv>=16-a). 14:27:23 !lg * cv>=16.0a 14:27:23 No games for * (cv>=16.0a). 14:27:31 !lg * cv~~16 s=cv 14:27:32 404933 games for * (cv~~16): 321663x 0.16-a, 83270x 0.16 14:27:43 !lg * cv>=0.16-a s=cv 14:27:46 432168 games for * (cv>=0.16-a): 321663x 0.16-a, 83272x 0.16, 27233x 0.17-a 14:28:12 !lg * cv>=0.16-a !meleebug ikiller=centaur 14:28:13 5315. adagio the Charmwright (L9 HESk of Sif Muna), shot by a centaur (arrow) on D:6 (grunt_temple_overflow_open) on 2015-03-26 19:27:53, with 2076 points after 7336 turns and 0:47:49. 14:28:20 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:24 !lg * cv>=0.16-a !meleebug splat 14:28:25 9795. emikaela the Brawler (L17 TrMo of Cheibriados), demolished by an ettin simulacrum in IceCv (ice_cave_caverns_01) on 2015-03-26 19:08:21, with 203581 points after 33554 turns and 7:31:11. 14:28:43 !lg * cv>=0.16-a !meleebug splat br=D lvl<=12 / ikiller=centaur 14:28:45 0/46 games for * (cv>=0.16-a !meleebug splat br=D lvl<=12): N=0/46 (0.00%) 14:28:53 !lg * cv>=0.16-a !meleebug splat br=D lvl<=12 14:28:54 46. drmcmeen the Warrior (L17 GrMo of Cheibriados), demolished by an ettin (a +0 great mace) on D:12 (minmay_outward_triangles) on 2015-03-24 18:10:19, with 180575 points after 32770 turns and 3:11:13. 14:29:14 !kw splat 14:29:14 Keyword: splat => xl>=17 !won 14:29:17 oh 14:29:18 oops 14:29:35 !lg * cv>=0.16-a !meleebug !boring !won br=D lvl<=12 / ikiller=centaur 14:29:43 5283/275621 games for * (cv>=0.16-a !meleebug !boring !won br=D lvl<=12): N=5283/275621 (1.92%) 14:29:53 !lg * cv>=0.15-a cv<0.16-a !meleebug !boring !won br=D lvl<=12 / ikiller=centaur 14:30:00 5139/372197 games for * (cv>=0.15-a cv<0.16-a !meleebug !boring !won br=D lvl<=12): N=5139/372197 (1.38%) 14:30:07 -!- ythm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:31:13 !lg * cv>=0.14-a cv<0.14-a !meleebug !boring !won br=D lvl<=12 / ikiller=centaur 14:31:13 No games for * (cv>=0.14-a cv<0.14-a !meleebug !boring !won br=D lvl<=12). 14:31:29 !lg * cv>=0.14-a cv<0.15-a !boring !won br=D lvl<=12 / ikiller=centaur 14:31:34 7251/386558 games for * (cv>=0.14-a cv<0.15-a !boring !won br=D lvl<=12): N=7251/386558 (1.88%) 14:36:26 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:35 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:37 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:45:59 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:48:34 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:49:11 -!- Lamil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:22 -!- clouded_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:54:59 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:16 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:09 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 15:02:26 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:06:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:43 -!- ly^ has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:07:18 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:34 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:42 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:56 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:18 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:11 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:04 -!- Mottikins_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:26:29 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:26:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:27:27 -!- wheals_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:29:18 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:30:45 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:31:53 -!- ayutzia has quit [Client Quit] 15:32:13 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:34:01 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:34:28 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:24 banishing part of a kraken 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9581 by rchandra 15:37:59 good bug 15:38:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 15:38:21 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:14 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:08 a tentacle bug?! impossible. 15:46:19 wow 15:47:17 !lm lootfeel t opsu alive s=name 15:47:17 65 milestones for lootfeel (t opsu alive): 39x ontoclasm, 26x dpeg 15:47:17 we have two concurrent opsu 15:47:17 this is a failure of our team captain, bh 15:49:26 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:50:05 -!- mumra_ is now known as mumra 15:50:39 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:52:26 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:41 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.4/20150320202338]] 15:53:26 opsu streak 15:57:10 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:57:14 !lm ontoclasm 15:57:15 5271. [2015-03-26 07:13:16] ontoclasm the Impaler (L19 OpSu of The Shining One) found a barnacled rune of Zot on turn 74024. (Shoals:5) 15:57:15 !messages 15:57:16 (1/1) n1k said (52m 25s ago): remarkable verisimilitude 16:02:07 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:05:31 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:49 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:11:39 ??majin bo 16:11:39 majin bo ~ majin-bo[1/3]: +6 Majin-Bo {vamp, Archmagi, MP+6 Int+6}. It's a quarterstaff! Acts as a universal spell enhancer, but costs HP every time you cast a spell: 1 HP per MP spent. (This will never kill you, directly.) 16:12:02 this should have spell vampiricism just so people finally stop suggesting to add it 16:13:00 and double or triple the HP cost or something 16:13:32 oh? 16:13:54 double or triple HP cost is going to be suicide? 16:14:25 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:15:14 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:15:54 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:17:08 I think of it as the hex enhancer we all really wanted 16:18:02 kill an orange rat and fix some spelling too. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9582 by argonaut 16:19:27 gammafunk: nothing says "great enchanter item" like two-handed weapon you can't swap that can't stab 16:20:50 hm, blowgun of the assassin would have been pretty good if you transferred it into a version with new boots of the assassin when they still worked on launchers 16:21:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:22:29 minmay: I don't use those poorly designed hexes, but the good ones like guardian golem 16:23:20 -!- Mottikins__ is now known as FaMott 16:23:23 I like the "It's a quarterstaff!" in the learndb entry. It sounds really excited 16:23:53 btw why havent you removed ballistomycetes 16:25:27 Like I'm in the business of making arrhythmia happy! 16:25:39 But tbh I'm not sure if there issues with outright removing them 16:25:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:25:50 I think I asked that before and was answered, but I forgot what was said 16:26:27 just give something Summon Giant Spore and call it a day 16:26:53 ontoclasm: but Fedhas has that! 16:28:37 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:03 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:29:08 just make one of the boring lair monsters breathe or fart giant spores 16:29:58 not giant spores 16:30:00 fuck those things 16:30:04 sporesnail 16:30:04 could be a good thing for death yaks maybe 16:30:51 also, TIL wandering mushrooms are actually a random spawn in lair 16:31:08 (why) 16:34:16 -!- kuniqs_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:34:32 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:35:31 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:48 halitosis yak 16:37:10 -!- nono_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:38:11 fr QDR should not be cursable 16:38:25 mostly for flavour, i can't really see it as a buff 16:38:27 for...flavour? 16:39:04 gammafunk: immune to magic, curses are magic. duh 16:39:11 <|amethyst> flavour is the only reason Holy Wrath can't be cursed 16:39:13 duh 16:39:23 <|amethyst> so it wouldn't be unprecedented 16:40:00 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.4/20150320202338]] 16:40:04 the flavour is better with holy wrath at least. I don't think it really should be a thing their either 16:40:09 Linley did a lot of things "for flavour" 16:40:15 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:40:17 and I kind of like his style 16:40:35 but it's not a thing I'd like to see more of (this is immune to curses, that is) 16:40:45 ZChris13: his C++ style was pretty unique 16:40:56 spaghetti? 16:41:00 <|amethyst> I think the main effect would be that Ashenzarites are discouraged from wearing it 16:41:13 yeah 16:41:19 <|amethyst> ZChris13: alphabet spaghetti with a lot of numbers 16:41:22 also, if halflings can stack rmut, trolls can stack tla regen!!! 16:41:35 #trtla17 16:42:05 different sources of regeneration don't stack, do they? 16:42:06 turtle A-17 16:42:20 minmay: well the funny thing QDA doesn't make you MR-infinity or anything 16:42:31 how much MR does QDA give you 16:42:38 ??qda 16:42:38 quicksilver dragon armour[1/2]: 10AC, 7ER, MR+, cannot be enchanted. Can be created by enchanting a quicksilver dragon hide. (0.16+) 16:42:43 it's not stated 16:42:52 yeah it's just MR+ 16:42:56 sure it is, "+" 16:43:01 oh 16:43:10 very helpful 16:43:34 that's also now out of date, isn't it? 16:43:35 isn't the AC wrong though 16:43:37