00:02:42 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16.0-8-gd9ae3a8 00:04:00 gammafunk: Oh yes? o_o Is that really a thing? o ^o I mean I'm really good at .. >_> ... you know ... > x> throwing these things out there 00:04:06 > ~> 00:04:51 gammafunk: If o ,o you o .o want o xo I o co can o ^o punctuate >_> every > ,> word > ^> with > x> one. 00:04:58 gammafunk: gamma. 00:05:05 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-83-g894156c (34) 00:06:43 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08:04 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: welp cya] 00:09:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:13:58 reaverb: yeah the idea was that player tiles face right 00:14:02 while monsters face left 00:14:13 -!- Maud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:14:22 Cool. 00:15:52 dextrous.. and sinister! 00:20:16 -!- wya has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:20:42 %git :/book tile 00:20:47 07roctavian02 * 0.16-a0-3660-g8c25847: New book tiles. 10(8 weeks ago, 38 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c25847ed569 00:20:52 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:20:57 !tell roctavian awesome book tiles! 00:20:58 johnstein: OK, I'll let roctavian know. 00:21:12 I feel bad burning them 00:23:05 -!- jejeje has quit [Client Quit] 00:24:26 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:29 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Excess Flood] 00:26:37 the more beautiful the book the more trog hates it 00:27:54 canofworms' dragons look nice too 00:30:56 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:36:29 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 00:38:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:41:57 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:45:20 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:50:38 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:51:57 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:52:12 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:54:27 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:56 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:00:45 -!- Maud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:59 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:44 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:42 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:11:12 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:12:51 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:14:16 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:15:41 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-83-g894156c (34) 01:25:01 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:27:12 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:27:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:28:20 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:29:22 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:34:28 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:39:19 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:42:12 -!- Holy_Rage has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 01:45:50 -!- asdfghjk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:16 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:46:43 -!- ythm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:49:40 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:53:37 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-83-g894156c 01:57:33 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:59:34 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:06:40 -!- tasonir has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:08:11 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:08:35 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:08:53 -!- walterch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09:16 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:12:59 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:19:35 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:20:22 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:22:02 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16.0-8-gd9ae3a8 02:23:45 !won qw t0.16 02:23:45 qw (t0.16) has won 5 times in 54 games (9.26%): 1xDDBe 1xGrBe 1xHOBe 1xMiBe 1xNaBe 02:23:54 are those all autonomous wins elliptic? 02:24:08 they were each autonomous, yup 02:24:15 neat! 02:24:24 some pretty amazing escapes from vaults which usually get the best of qw, too 02:24:28 (stuff behind grates) 02:25:15 is n1k yours or elliptic's? or is it collaborative? 02:26:31 johnstein, qw is elliptic's bot 02:26:53 I believe he had some assistance during its original development 02:27:14 and I think it's a free software project now and has had contributions from some other people? 02:29:24 I want to make a bot 02:29:27 but no time 02:29:35 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:30:23 check out gw if you get the chance. It's Grunt's bot and it's really crazy 02:30:34 I don't really know how to explain 02:30:45 but it employs some impressive tactics 02:33:00 no need to explain when you can watch 02:33:03 ??gw[4 02:33:03 gw[4/6]: An example of gw-tactics: !lg gw 1708 -tv:$:x2 02:33:04 ??gw[5 02:33:04 gw[5/6]: gw the Traitor (L11 DDDK), worshipper of Yredelemnul, slain by a phantasmal warrior (created by the anger of Yredelemnul) on D:11, with 9546 points after 9002 turns and 0:13:06. 02:33:05 ??gw[6 02:33:06 gw[6/6]: More gw-tactics: !lg gw 2153 -tv: Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-83-g894156c (34) 02:34:17 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:35 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:34:53 !lg gw 1708 -tv:$:x2 02:34:54 1708/2775. gw, XL4 TrMo, T:2160 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 02:35:25 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:36:05 !lg gw 2153 -tv: 2153/2775. gw, XL11 DDGl, T:10344 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 02:39:05 deep dwarves are balanced 02:39:20 !lg * min=ac 02:39:24 4064551. gw the Basher (L11 DDGl of Makhleb), blasted by an oklob plant (splash of acid) on Lair:1 (minmay_lair_oklob_tunnel) on 2014-09-14 17:13:08, with 11812 points after 10344 turns and 0:12:24. 02:39:31 !lg * min=ac x=ac 02:39:33 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39:35 4064551. [ac=-270] gw the Basher (L11 DDGl of Makhleb), blasted by an oklob plant (splash of acid) on Lair:1 (minmay_lair_oklob_tunnel) on 2014-09-14 17:13:08, with 11812 points after 10344 turns and 0:12:24. 02:39:42 good 02:39:45 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:35 1learn add 27 02:40:43 !tell elliptic I updated Rotatell, cherry-picking the last 3 commits. IT RAN so obviously there are no issues. but maybe keep an eye on it in ##crawl to make sure it's doing what you think it should be doing now 02:40:43 johnstein: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 02:43:04 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:19 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:30 -!- rockit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:46:35 -!- rockit_ is now known as rockit 02:47:03 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:17 if you put up a good gitignore, i wouldn't mind, gammafunk 02:49:01 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:49:51 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:50:03 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:52:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53:45 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:56:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:11:08 actaully, you can't, gammafunk - permissions on parent folder are not good enough 03:17:22 BanMido (L24 MfIE) ASSERT((int)Buffer.size() == expanded_keys_left) in 'macro.cc' at line 552 failed. (Vaults:5) 03:24:41 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:31:33 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:31:33 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:31:50 -!- Hurricos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:32:36 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:34:42 Napkin: your friendly reminder to enable gzipping of static content 03:35:50 !lg gw 2153 -tv: 2153/2775. gw, XL11 DDGl, T:10344 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 03:38:57 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:44:14 chequers: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2767211/can-you-use-gzip-over-ssl-and-connection-keep-alive-headers/4063496#4063496 03:47:48 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 03:48:19 -!- TastyLemonDrops has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:48:21 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:48:49 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:58:12 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:58:51 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:05:12 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:05:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:06:27 Napkin: i think you'll find very few websites running SSL disable encryption 04:06:36 s/encryption/compression 04:07:13 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09:55 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:11:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11:34 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:11:49 also, i'm asking for compression of static content, not dynamic stuff. If pepole can sniff dgl-status.json, it's not a major problem :) 04:21:05 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:31:48 -!- Plasmo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:35:59 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:41:49 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:58:52 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:59:53 -!- wat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:03:01 -!- kuniqs has quit [Client Quit] 05:21:50 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Client Quit] 05:25:07 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:27:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:44:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:50:41 -!- TurboShekel has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:56:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:06:55 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:16:36 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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ZZZzzz…] 08:22:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 08:23:03 !messages 08:23:04 (1/2) elliptic said (10h 53m 43s ago): Could you apply the most recent commit at https://github.com/neilmoore/sizzell/ (newsworthiness reform, reduces announcements in ##crawl) to Lantell when you have a chance? thanks! 08:23:05 !messages 08:23:06 (1/1) |amethyst said (10h 53m 11s ago): need the two commits above that too to avoid conflicts 08:26:03 -!- Lantell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:26:15 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:29 !tell elliptic should be fixed now. 08:26:29 TZer0: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 08:26:48 Also, server-load seems to be balanced now. 08:26:58 we have the same amount of players on CXC and CLAN. :) 08:31:12 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:31:23 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:33:19 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 08:36:02 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:07 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:47:53 -!- ythm has quit [Client Quit] 08:53:12 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:32 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57:52 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:34 -!- Icadius has quit [Client Quit] 09:12:07 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:12:46 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:28 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:19 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:18:23 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:33 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:22:56 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:33:22 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:57 !serverstats t0.16 09:35:58 10356 games for * (t0.16): 2858x cao [489], 3404x cszo [388], 1448x cbro [136], 592x clan [99], 483x cxc [80], 566x cwz [65], 172x cpo [28], 642x cdo [26], 191x lld [19] 09:38:41 -!- Galewind has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:40:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:41:40 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:45:06 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:46:13 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:52 !tstats t0.16 09:46:56 Stats after t0.16 days (t): 0 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 0 games, winrate NaN, total player time 0. 09:46:58 hm 09:47:11 !lg * t / won 09:47:12 390/10381 games for * (t): N=390/10381 (3.76%) 09:47:22 !lg * t !chei / won 09:47:23 366/10121 games for * (t !chei): N=366/10121 (3.62%) 09:47:27 good 09:47:32 nerf chei imo 09:47:37 nah 09:56:31 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:58:34 !lg * t killer~=caustic 09:58:34 Broken query near '~=caustic' 09:58:43 !lg * t kille=~=caustic 09:58:44 Unknown field: kille 09:58:45 ack 09:58:48 !lg * t killer~~caustic 09:58:49 7. Arnot the Executioner (L19 MiBe of Trog), splashed by a caustic shrike's acid on Depths:4 on 2015-03-16 14:34:02, with 282522 points after 44018 turns and 4:33:51. 09:58:51 ;p 09:58:54 rip in pizza 09:58:54 thanks 09:58:58 n.p 09:59:27 !lg * t !won 09:59:28 10034. ew the Ruffian (L7 TrCK of Xom), slain by a worker ant on D:7 on 2015-03-16 14:59:21, with 907 points after 3341 turns and 0:01:38. 09:59:34 sweet. 09:59:42 !lg * t !won depths 09:59:43 70. Arnot the Executioner (L19 MiBe of Trog), splashed by a caustic shrike's acid on Depths:4 on 2015-03-16 14:34:02, with 282522 points after 44018 turns and 4:33:51. 10:00:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:39 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:14 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:05:33 -!- Icadius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:11:47 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 10:13:21 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:52 -!- surr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:20:50 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:21:25 -!- Anchorite is now known as Dunsworth 10:26:39 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27:16 !tstats 3 t0.16 10:27:21 Stats after 3 days (t0.16): 1242 players, 449 runers, 251 winners, 391 wins, 9770 games, winrate 4.00%, total player time 304d+16:57:19. 10:27:26 !tstats 3 t0.15 10:27:37 Stats after 3 days (t0.15): 1125 players, 261 runers, 121 winners, 178 wins, 11880 games, winrate 1.50%, total player time 257d+1:06:43. 10:27:41 (it's been less than 3 days in this tourney so far) 10:27:58 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:44 PleasingFungus: it isn't really surprising that adding !chei increased winrate since chei worship means the player survived to an altar 10:28:56 oh wait it didn't increase winrate 10:29:16 IMO buff chei then 10:29:41 oh I'm confused about my logic 10:29:58 s/increased/decreased/ in my first comment and ignore my second and third :P 10:32:08 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:32:26 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:34:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:34 -!- cykeltillsalu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:35:41 |amethyst: perhaps we should remove the autopickup option? 10:38:13 elliptic: your first comment was right 10:38:22 er 10:38:26 I guess your corrected first comment 10:38:30 I misread your later comments... 10:38:37 reading is hard 10:39:22 brannock was half-jokingly concerned that chei had been turned into the "always win" god 10:39:24 !gamesby brannock t 10:39:25 brannock (t) has played 9 games, between 2015-03-13 20:01:14 and 2015-03-16 04:36:13, won 6 (66.7%), high score 3709894, total score 16847984, total turns 362625, play-time/day 3:51:48, total time 15:27:15. 10:41:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:42:54 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:43:25 !lg brannock t won s=god 10:43:27 6 games for brannock (t won): 6x Cheibriados 10:43:30 !lg brannock t won s=dur 10:43:31 6 games for brannock (t won): 2:44:00, 2:08:38, 2:14:16, 2:32:05, 2:37:54, 2:16:20 10:43:42 very consistent 10:43:51 keeping good 10:43:52 time 10:43:54 !glasses 10:43:54 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 10:44:05 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:46:05 Grunt: Your 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites the 27-headed Lernaean hydra. x7 10:47:40 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:49:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:02 damn it, why can't the lorekeeper banners be "higher than" :( 10:50:09 there's no message for hitting 12.9 10:50:28 it's skillcap. 10:52:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 10:52:45 kvaak: that's a good point, though going from 12.9 to 13.1 in a single turn would still be a thing 10:52:53 true 10:53:04 the actual reason for the way it works is that this is what is currently tracked 10:53:24 no way for the scripts to distinguish between 13.0 and 13.1 10:54:19 -!- Dunsworth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54:29 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:54:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:57:14 -!- Eksell has quit [Remote host 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kvaak more shinies 11:12:26 Sending more shinies to kvaak. 11:12:47 !send kvaak more shrikes 11:12:48 Sending more shrikes to kvaak. 11:14:01 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:48 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:23:08 -!- mercury^ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:23:17 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:29 gammafunk: sgd took care of asterion nicely 11:26:53 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:29:07 hm 11:29:15 !lg * t s=place 11:29:16 10682 games for * (t): 1730x D:1, 1516x D:2, 1472x D:3, 1164x D:4, 593x D:5, 541x D:$, 476x D:6, 358x D:7, 303x D:8, 213x D:9, 201x Abyss:1, 164x D:10, 148x D:11, 138x Lair:1, 97x Orc:4, 93x IceCv, 77x Lair:2, 69x D:12, 64x Lair:3, 58x Lair:8, 53x D:13, 53x Sewer, 46x Ossuary, 46x Vaults:5, 43x Bailey, 37x Lair:5, 35x Lair:4, 32x Elf:3, 30x Swamp:5, 30x Snake:5, 30x Lair:6, 29x Orc:3, 28x D:14, 28... 11:29:24 !lg * t0.15 s=place 11:29:25 64040 games for * (t0.15): 13759x D:1, 11112x D:2, 10248x D:3, 7239x D:4, 3318x D:5, 2254x D:$, 2177x D:6, 1518x D:7, 1453x D:8, 1378x Abyss:1, 972x D:9, 876x D:10, 651x D:11, 578x Lair:1, 353x Orc:4, 314x Lair:2, 307x Sewer, 291x Lair:3, 289x Ossuary, 265x IceCv, 241x D:12, 239x Lair:8, 200x Bailey, 198x Lair:4, 173x Elf:3, 168x Vaults:5, 145x D:13, 142x Lair:6, 140x Lair:5, 135x D:15, 119x D:14,... 11:29:40 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:31:41 hm, I wish the branch death rate query was in ??black magic 11:32:07 !learn add black_magic !lm * current br.enter=lair / lg:place=lair 11:32:07 black magic[5/5]: !lm * current br.enter=lair / lg:place=lair 11:32:16 not up to the other standards, but useful 11:32:26 !lm * t br.enter=lair / lg:place=lair 11:32:27 466/2288 milestones for * (t br.enter=lair): N=466/2288 (20.37%) 11:32:31 !lm * t0.15 br.enter=lair / lg:place=lair 11:32:38 2032/7055 milestones for * (t0.15 br.enter=lair): N=2032/7055 (28.80%) 11:32:46 interesting 11:33:32 I looked at stats a bit earlier and there didn't seem to be one specific location where deathrate was lower 11:33:42 e.g. people are also better at getting to lair safely 11:34:01 possibly we gave everyone robust 1 by accident 11:34:03 it could happen 11:34:03 and at winning after finishing lair 11:34:39 !woniflair * t 11:34:39 * (t) has won after reaching lair 394 out of 1831 times: 22% 11:34:40 !woniflair * t0.15 11:34:44 * (t0.15) has won after reaching lair 992 out of 6991 times: 14% 11:34:49 one thing to keep in mind with these comparisons is that it is quite possibly the case that the winrate is higher at the very start of tourney 11:34:58 !lg 11:34:59 someone checked wins after 3 days earlier 11:34:59 3415. wheals the Eclecticist (L18 DESu of Sif Muna), hit from afar by a stone giant (large rock) on Vaults:2 (nicolae_vaults_c_with_doors) on 2015-03-16 16:27:39, with 229320 points after 50409 turns and 2:53:18. 11:35:06 gammafunk: another glorious victory for the team 11:35:08 rekd 11:35:09 so comparing 3 days of t with 16 days of t0.15 might be misleading 11:35:11 game needs to be easier imho 11:35:14 true 11:35:19 !tstats 4 t0.16 11:35:22 Brannock_: yeah, and the winrate was still much higher 11:35:23 Stats after 4 days (t0.16): 1254 players, 457 runers, 253 winners, 394 wins, 9956 games, winrate 3.96%, total player time 309d+22:54:52. 11:35:29 !tstats 4 t0.15 11:35:30 PleasingFungus: it still hasn't been 3 days :P 11:35:33 o 11:35:35 w/e 11:35:41 Stats after 4 days (t0.15): 1276 players, 315 runers, 151 winners, 242 wins, 15251 games, winrate 1.59%, total player time 343d+18:47:57. 11:35:49 yeah I guess you're right 11:35:51 !tstats 3 t0.16 11:35:56 Stats after 3 days (t0.16): 1254 players, 457 runers, 253 winners, 394 wins, 9957 games, winrate 3.96%, total player time 309d+23:01:42. 11:35:57 !tstats 3 t0.15 11:35:58 !update-goodplayers 11:36:01 Mapping goodplayers => 78291 bmfx elliptic hyperbolic jeanjacques clouded mikee crate pac bart pivotal stabwound johnnyzero minmay ophanim basil magistern hyperelliptic marvinpa surr nago walkerboh simm wahaha ebarrett ionfrigate mrplanck elynae reid dck sphara cheibrodos morganleah tenaya theglow yermak heteroy itsmu toastyp xyblor casmith789 sar uglything maddasher evilmike vizer araganzar rob e... 11:36:08 Stats after 3 days (t0.15): 1125 players, 261 runers, 121 winners, 178 wins, 11880 games, winrate 1.50%, total player time 257d+1:06:43. 11:36:18 !lg !goodplayers t0.16 / won 11:36:20 !lg !goodplayers t0.15 / won 11:36:24 157/8879 games for goodplayers (t0.16): N=157/8879 (1.77%) 11:36:28 good to see players back up 11:36:28 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:36:32 there also could be effects caused by time of year giving a different playerbase 11:36:41 !tstats 3 t0.14 11:36:51 Stats after 3 days (t0.14): 1114 players, 299 runers, 110 winners, 154 wins, 11273 games, winrate 1.37%, total player time 263d+22:29:08. 11:36:52 268/50487 games for goodplayers (t0.15): N=268/50487 (0.53%) 11:36:56 elliptic: also, please don't forget to take into account the phase of the moon 11:37:17 and the tournament started on fri. the 13th.... 11:37:20 yes 11:37:29 it all adds up!!! 11:38:23 anyway it will be easier to compare stuff at end of tourney 11:39:04 ya 11:39:08 no need to jump to conclusuions 11:39:11 er 11:39:22 can I pretend that's a real word 11:40:40 Grunt: why does gw press 'a' every so often but doesn't appear to do anything 11:41:28 wheals: he told me that was a good question 11:41:56 &rc gw 11:41:57 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.16/gw.rc 11:42:28 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:44:25 might be worth doing a debug print whenever it tries to use an ability 11:44:35 to see if that's the problem 11:45:43 ooh, gw-sewer activated 11:45:59 !lm gw br.enter=sewer t 11:46:00 13. [2015-03-16 13:17:44] gw the Basher (L7 DrFi) entered a Sewer on turn 4037. (D:4) 11:46:08 gw is a sewer expert 11:46:22 !lm gw t br.enter s=br 11:46:23 80 milestones for gw (t br.enter): 28x Temple, 22x Lair, 14x Sewer, 6x Ossuary, 4x Bailey, 2x Orc, 2x Volcano, IceCv, Swamp 11:47:15 !tell Grunt what's the password for gw? 11:47:16 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 11:48:54 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:50:35 wheals: did you try 'gw' 11:52:34 alas, that is not it 11:52:55 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:54:30 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:19 good infinite lua loop 11:56:47 !blame glass 11:56:47 I pronounce glass... Guilty! 11:57:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:00:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:00:21 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:11 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16.0-8-gd9ae3a8 12:03:11 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [] 12:03:46 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:05:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:38 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:29 !messages 12:06:30 No messages for mrwooster. 12:07:36 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-83-g894156c (34) 12:08:43 just quaffed !brill for int. The Autopickup System Works 12:09:43 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:13:13 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:32 wheals: the a is part of a magic key combo for searching for things 12:24:40 aha 12:24:40 wheals: no gw password for you 12:24:49 it's the portal vault search thing? 12:25:07 yes 12:25:22 IMO mute the message at least 12:25:43 I can't; it needs to detect those 12:26:16 Grunt: turn on the mute before doing the portal vault search thingy, then turn it off 12:30:44 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:32:19 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:34:34 -!- dowaito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:35:24 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:35 2.5k seems a bit high for wrath of trog 12:36:45 ah, it's one of those unrands with a set price 12:41:47 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44:28 @??wandering mushrrom 12:44:29 unknown monster: "wandering mushrrom" 12:44:31 @??wandering mushroom 12:44:31 wandering mushroom (07f) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 32-55 | AC/EV: 5/0 | Dam: 2013(confuse) | 03plant | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 311 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 12:44:38 hm 12:45:19 oh, i see 12:45:22 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:45:30 allies trigger shadow traps, just not summoned ones 12:46:24 -!- lnr has quit [K-Lined] 12:46:27 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:47:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:48:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:49:09 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Excess Flood] 12:49:11 -!- mercury^ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:51:36 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:52:59 -!- zerkmund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 12:54:06 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:21 -!- Dunsworth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:09 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:01:12 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:06:00 is this ice cave supposed to have an exec axe and triple sword of freezing 13:06:55 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Quit: hy-on-github] 13:07:43 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12:46 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 13:13:27 -!- mineral has quit [Quit: bye.] 13:14:10 -!- hhkb has quit [Client Quit] 13:15:07 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:48 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:16:27 -!- Fusha is now known as jeremie___ 13:17:03 ice cave loot is ridiculous sometimes 13:17:34 -!- jeremie___ is now known as Fusha 13:18:38 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:20:01 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:20:50 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:44 -!- Gamesmaster1965 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:33:58 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35:14 !lg lootfeel t won 13:35:15 2. PleasingFungus the Slayer (L27 DgWn), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-03-15 22:45:32, with 2289655 points after 75175 turns and 5:55:53. 13:35:31 !lg lootfeel t 13:35:31 40. wheals the Sneak (L3 FoAs), slain by a goblin (led by Robin) on D:1 (st_stairs_14) on 2015-03-16 17:25:26, with 29 points after 780 turns and 0:02:40. 13:35:36 !lg lootfeel t -2 13:35:37 39/40. wheals the Eclecticist (L18 DESu of Sif Muna), hit from afar by a stone giant (large rock) on Vaults:2 (nicolae_vaults_c_with_doors) on 2015-03-16 16:27:39, with 229320 points after 50409 turns and 2:53:18. 13:35:42 ....wheals 13:35:57 yeah 13:35:57 !lg lootfeel t -2 -log 13:35:58 39/40. wheals, XL18 DESu, T:50409: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20150316-162739.txt 13:37:07 well it was a pretty speedy game in realtime 13:37:26 I guess not that fast, but winable under 5hrs 13:38:12 !lm wheals desu t (( rune || br.enter )) s=turns,noun o=-turns 13:38:13 11 milestones for wheals (desu t ((rune || br.enter))): 2343 (Sewer), 7180 (Temple), 9366 (Lair), 12520 (Volcano), 13143 (Lab), 20460 (Orc), 32224 (Swamp), 38592 (decaying), 39491 (Spider), 46612 (gossamer), 47553 (Vaults) 13:38:26 yeah it wasn't too fast 13:38:37 spent a lot of time resting since i was doing melee a bunch 13:38:37 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:38:38 was spider difficult? 13:38:49 I guess with melee and reasonable defenses it wouldn't be 13:38:51 fairly, i never got above 20 ac i think 13:39:09 i found forest to be pretty good there though 13:39:18 yeah forest is nice in lair branches in general 13:39:19 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:39:33 I think stronger in shoals than swamp, since hydra kill the dryad pretty fast 13:39:39 I could see spider too I guess 13:39:41 @??dryad 13:39:41 dryad (09R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 40-63 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 10 | spellcaster | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 04fire | XP: 350 | Sp: awaken vines, awaken forest, minor healing (2d4) [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:39:44 need to give it maintain range 13:39:58 it's really great in shoals 13:40:15 it might be if the dryad wasn't suicidal 13:40:21 dryads should probably be amphibious too 13:40:26 kvaak: maintain range!!!! 13:40:48 well it doesn't have maintain range now does it!?!??!?!?! 13:40:49 doesn't much matter about it being suicidal, I mostly cast it well on land and the cooldown is not long 13:40:51 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:40:58 it just destroys m very easilly 13:40:59 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:41:53 minor healing...huh 13:42:14 i just got my third rune, i might have a win soon :< 13:42:14 I wonder how its awaken forest interacts with that from spriggan druids 13:42:14 speaking of swamp, time to do that with my foas 13:42:24 !lm ontoclasm 13:42:25 5048. [2015-03-16 18:39:25] ontoclasm the Devastator (L25 DrWn of Ashenzari) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 82919. (Vaults:5) 13:42:36 lotta Wn on team lootfeel 13:42:37 i'm reskilling to firestorm 13:43:15 I'll win my SpEn^Ash for a non-exp win of sp and en (and ash) when I get a HESu that at least gets a rune 13:43:23 that bh rng has been terrible 13:44:53 Maud the Forgotten comes into view. She is wielding a broad axe of 13:44:54 electrocution. 13:44:54 Maud shouts! 13:44:54 Frances, Duchess of Pandemonium comes into view. She is wielding a long sword. 13:44:58 note the lack of a turn marker 13:46:43 hehe, neutral thorn hunters <3 13:46:46 turn marker? 13:46:49 so glad we sorted that out 13:46:58 gammafunk: _ 13:47:04 (ie, same turn) 13:47:07 oh, never realized that's what that is 13:47:12 ...wow 13:47:19 slow much 13:47:39 sorry, but did you type that from *Windows XP*? 13:48:07 that is assuming you are wheals and not some foreign hacker who's compromised wheals' computer! 13:49:38 eek, asterion 13:50:17 Asterion says, "Your corpse will decorate my castle walls." Asterion conjures a destructive force in the name of Makhleb! The orb of electricity explodes! The orb of electricity engulfs you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The orb of electricity engulfs your oklob plant. The orb of electricity engulfs Asterion. Asterion dies! 13:50:28 awesome 13:51:08 rip my son 13:51:28 !lg * t ikiller=asterion 13:51:30 2. PowerPlayer the Shatterer (L15 OgSk of The Shining One), mangled by Asterion (a +0 demon trident of electrocution) on Snake:2 on 2015-03-14 19:16:09, with 77496 points after 25839 turns and 0:55:53. 13:51:35 !lg * t ikiller=asterion s=ckaux 13:51:35 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:36 2 games for * (t ikiller=asterion): morningstar of draining, demon trident of electrocution 13:51:39 !lg eb t 13:51:40 No games for eb (t). 13:52:11 !lg * t ikiller=asterion -tv 13:52:13 2. PowerPlayer, XL15 OgSk, T:25839 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:52:35 wow, donald with 2sword of elec again 13:53:45 !lg * t ikiller=asterion -2 13:53:46 1/2. slitherrr the Bringer of Law (L15 MiFi of Zin), slain by Asterion (a +1 morningstar of draining) on Shoals:3 on 2015-03-14 04:02:32, with 107216 points after 22862 turns and 2:17:41. 13:53:54 !lg * t ikiller=asterion -2 -tv 13:53:55 1/2. slitherrr, XL15 MiFi, T:22862 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:55:35 !lg * t ikiller=asterion -2 -tv:<2 13:55:35 1/2. slitherrr, XL15 MiFi, T:22862 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:56:50 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:38 r - Roxanne's Reference Book on Mutagenic Stones 13:57:52 who knew that she was actually a nuclear physicist 14:01:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:02:32 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:02:49 !tell |amethyst https://bpaste.net/raw/3bc4c53a70cd is a sizzell bugfix (actually of an old bug, but my recent changes made it more serious - non-extended runes aren't being announced currently because of it) 14:02:50 elliptic: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 14:03:56 !tell |amethyst the gretell version is here: https://bpaste.net/raw/16271368dc28 14:03:57 elliptic: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 14:05:49 that was quite an exciting swamp:5 14:06:24 !lg lootfeel t s=name 14:06:25 40 games for lootfeel (t): 22x gammafunk, 9x dpeg, 5x ontoclasm, 2x wheals, PleasingFungus, bh 14:06:32 good 14:06:59 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:13 !lg lootfeel t s=sum(dur),name 14:07:13 ERROR: aggregate functions are not allowed in GROUP BY 14:07:16 aw 14:07:31 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:07:37 !lg lootfeel s=name x=sum(dur) 14:07:38 40 games for lootfeel: 22x gammafunk [5:02:12], 9x dpeg [0:52:29], 5x ontoclasm [0:55:52], 2x wheals [2:55:58], PleasingFungus [5:55:53], bh [5:11:29] 14:07:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:47 oh you can use x with s 14:07:51 !lg lootfeel s=name x=sum(dur) o=sum(dur) 14:07:51 40 games for lootfeel: PleasingFungus [5:55:53], bh [5:11:29], 22x gammafunk [5:02:12], 2x wheals [2:55:58], 5x ontoclasm [0:55:52], 9x dpeg [0:52:29] 14:07:52 why did I think you couldn't 14:11:13 -!- coffee` has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:19:05 or the combo bonus points based on when the game was started or when it ended 14:19:31 the problem with end is someone could just not end the game and wait for it to be worth more and play on a different server 14:21:43 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:25 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:45 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:54 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:05 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:36 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:53 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:01 <|amethyst> elliptic: applied, thanks! 14:28:09 <|amethyst> agentgt: "2*(52+T)/(2+S) points (rounded up) for a win with a given species if T is the total number of games won in the tournament before the start of the win in question and S of those T were with the given species." 14:28:34 <|amethyst> agentgt: likewise the other components of species/background/god wins 14:29:41 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:01 gammafunk: You butcher the demigod corpse of Frederick. 14:33:13 hm, shouldn't Rotatell be announcing unique kills in vaults? 14:33:34 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:33:47 <|amethyst> wheals: no, only Abyss Zot Coc Geh Dis Tar Tomb Hell Slime Pan 14:33:55 ah 14:34:05 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:34:06 <|amethyst> (and ghosts in those + Depths Vaults Crypt) 14:34:14 must have conflated that 14:34:16 can i drag uniques to slime and kill them for an announcement 14:34:20 <|amethyst> simmarine: yes 14:34:27 simmarine: metal_show reasons 14:34:37 -!- olourkin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:40 also Rotatell needs the fix for the bug that makes it not announce anything outside of those branches at all 14:34:50 <|amethyst> pushed to my github 14:34:55 thanks 14:36:57 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:37:15 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:38:27 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:30 !seen bloax 14:38:31 I last saw Bloax at Sun Mar 15 15:23:36 2015 UTC (1d 4h 14m 54s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 246 seconds'. 14:38:41 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:40 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:40:28 -!- mercury^ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:42:08 !tell johnstein There's another commit for Rotatell on the Sizzell repository, fixing a bug that causes some milestones to be muted that shouldn't be (e.g. getting pre-extended runes) 14:42:09 elliptic: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 14:42:28 !tell TZer0 There's another commit for Lantell on the Sizzell repository, fixing a bug that causes some milestones to be muted that shouldn't be (e.g. getting pre-extended runes) 14:42:29 elliptic: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 14:42:52 !tell Medar There's another commit for Eksell on the Sizzell repository, fixing a bug that causes some milestones to be muted that shouldn't be (e.g. getting pre-extended runes) 14:42:52 elliptic: OK, I'll let medar know. 14:43:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:19 anyone managed to build monster-trunk against 0.16? Im getting errors 14:44:59 <|amethyst> not 0.16 specifically, but 0.17 after the branch 14:45:04 <|amethyst> what commit are you on? 14:45:20 using 0.16.0 for crawl, and bleeding-edge for monster-trunk 14:45:24 <|amethyst> and what's the error? 14:45:42 <|amethyst> commit 6937dfd0 ? 14:45:51 <|amethyst> of monster-trunk 14:45:57 6937dfd 14:45:58 ye 14:46:01 bleeding edge 14:46:06 and 0.16.0 for crawl 14:46:10 <|amethyst> what's the error? 14:46:28 its a very cryptic assembler error 14:46:43 <|amethyst> invalid instruction? 14:47:06 <|amethyst> could mean your binutils is too old for the gcc version you are using 14:47:08 im re-running it now against a build that worked before to make sure its not to do with the environment, but its in a docker container so should be good 14:47:32 so for 0.17, you use 6937dfd0 for monster-trunk, and what tag/commit for crawl-ref? 14:47:40 <|amethyst> master 14:47:44 <|amethyst> branch master 14:47:51 <|amethyst> %git 14:47:51 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-83-g894156c: Re-add Ink Cloud's emergency flag 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=894156ce4e59 14:48:01 <|amethyst> gretell is about 6 commits old 14:48:01 hmm, ok, if that works for you must be something screwy with my setup, ill investigate 14:48:09 <|amethyst> @??-version 14:48:09 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 14:53:41 error i am getting: http://pastie.org/10031264 14:55:15 are you out of disk space? 14:55:35 that can cause very strange errors 14:56:41 8 gigs free… that was my first thought 14:58:39 and it always fails at the same spot 15:00:02 does it fail after make clean? after nuking ccache? 15:00:09 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00:19 its running in docker, so its a completely clean build every time 15:00:24 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 15:00:50 these are the commands it uses to build https://github.com/guyht/lookup/blob/master/Dockerfile 15:01:10 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:16 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:44 i apparently need to edit my configs since gitorious is going away and won't respond to me 15:02:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:02:10 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 15:02:25 <|amethyst> Zannick: change git:// to https:// 15:02:35 ah 15:02:35 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:37 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:05:31 im trying to build it on a different machine to see if its a space/environment issue 15:07:10 <|amethyst> what versions of g++ and binutils? 15:07:52 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08:13 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:39 <|amethyst> mrwooster: how much RAM? 15:10:48 <|amethyst> mrwooster: that could be the problem 15:11:16 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:04 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:13 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:15:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:16:05 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:16:16 -!- honeybadger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:16:17 <|amethyst> mrwooster: it can easily use a few hundred megs per source file, and if you're using -j that could add up 15:17:10 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:17:18 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:22 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:25:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:25:37 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:34 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:25 -!- Eksell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:34 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:40 <|amethyst> eksellent 15:30:51 updated 15:32:18 -!- Fusha has quit [] 15:32:37 -!- mrwooster has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:32:50 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42:24 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:24 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47:22 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:52:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:56:53 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:57:02 Huh. rWind (immune to Airstrike) is a special resistance; which appears to only be had by Wind Drakes and Ball Lightning. Seems like an odd amount of trouble for just two monsters. 15:58:20 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:58:31 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:06 <_miek> is it also immune to things like fan of gales? 15:59:16 <_miek> and the air drake blast? 15:59:25 <|amethyst> and tornado 15:59:42 <|amethyst> also, air elementals and twisters have the same flag 16:00:18 Diamond Obelisks do too, but that's not relevant. 16:00:24 <|amethyst> and creatures with ENCH_TORNADO have temporary resistance 16:01:00 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:04 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:02:53 THat includes the player. You technically can cast tornado to block enemy airstrikes, but that seems like a stupid reason to use 9 MP. 16:03:09 <|amethyst> it also blocks enemy tornado 16:03:27 <|amethyst> or keeps you from taking damage at least 16:03:50 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:12 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:22 <|amethyst> certainly it's not strictly necessary... the biggest effect I can think of from removing it is that Lom Lobon commits suicide more often 16:07:25 <|amethyst> @??lom lobon 16:07:25 Lom Lobon (12&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 360 | AC/EV: 10/20 | Dam: 4012(antimagic) | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 9161 | Sp: glaciate (10-132) [06!sil], conjure ball lightning [06!sil], major healing [06!sil], tornado [06!sil], blink range [06!sil] | Sz: .. 16:07:36 <|amethyst> because his tornado will explode his ball lightnings 16:07:49 An Amulet with that resist might be worth it for a permaflying Tengu. 16:08:18 <|amethyst> It's very situational for a regular amulet 16:08:25 It seems a little weird the first time you hear "But air could never hurt that creature" which the phrase used when targetting an rWind target with Airstrike. 16:08:34 <|amethyst> could be on an unrand 16:09:22 <|amethyst> (not as the only effect, but e.g. on Amulet of the Air) 16:09:46 <|amethyst> I don't see a lot of reason for wind drakes to have the resist 16:10:43 ??amulet of air 16:10:44 amulet of the air[1/1]: the amulet of the Air {Inacc +Fly rElec EV+5 RMsl} 16:10:47 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:10 -!- nonethousand is now known as Guest83436 16:11:54 It does make sense on the ball lightnings though....hell it'd make sense on an Air/Summoning spell to have something else you could have out during a tornado. 16:12:35 <|amethyst> air elementals (not on a spell, but fan of gales or qazlal for example) 16:12:38 -!- ythm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:13:08 <|amethyst> fg 16:13:35 <|amethyst> I guess it might make sense to mention the immunity (and rDrown perhaps) in xv 16:13:50 -!- n1k has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:14:02 <|amethyst> since so few things have it, it wouldn't be that much of a burden on users who have to read it 16:14:22 <|amethyst> rDrown (specifically from size) is a bit more prevalent 16:15:29 <|amethyst> would have to be careful how one phrased it to avoid making it sound like immunity to Air Magic 16:15:48 <|amethyst> since it only affects those two spells 16:16:20 rDrown as in immunity to engulf or immunity to falling in deep water? or are those the same thing? 16:16:40 merfolk aquamancer (03m) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 14 | HP: 52-73 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | XP: 913 | Sp: primal wave (3d20), steam ball (3d18), throw icicle (3d23), blink [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 16:16:40 %??merfolk aquamancer 16:17:11 I remember player rDrown (being undead or Op/Mf) causes that first spell [Primal Wave] to do half damage.. 16:17:35 <|amethyst> yeah, I guess there are two different things 16:17:47 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:18:02 <|amethyst> 1. rAsphyx which affects engulf, primal wave, and also curare 16:18:36 <|amethyst> err 16:18:38 <|amethyst> sorry 16:19:05 <|amethyst> 1. rAsphyx only affects curare directly 16:19:39 -!- Guest83436 is now known as n1k 16:19:46 -!- n1k has quit [Changing host] 16:19:46 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:10 It's so rare to see curare it's weird there's a special resist for it. heh. Now that enemies don't use floor weapons as much...only enemy with it is Sonja, no? 16:20:17 Lasty: i had an idea for some possible randart properties 16:20:42 Bcadren: regular kobolds sometimes have it 16:20:54 it 16:21:00 's pretty rare, though 16:21:21 <|amethyst> 2. rDrown affects engulf and primal wave. rAsphyx gives rDrown, habitat and size too, but MR_VUL_WATER will cancel one of those 16:21:52 <|amethyst> spriggan riders 16:21:57 those seem like they could be merged somehow 16:22:16 That would make Merfolk immune to Curare though. 16:22:28 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: "rAsphyx gives rDrown" is a kind of merging :) 16:23:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:13 Bcadren: could just make there not be a resistance that prevents curare damage 16:23:28 when even has rAsphyx 16:23:54 undead are immune to curare 16:24:00 ontoclasm: oo, tell me more 16:24:05 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: grey dracs 16:24:08 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: some forms 16:24:10 Roll it into rPois, I guess... 16:24:14 <|amethyst> and the fully petrified 16:24:35 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 16:24:35 %??antaeus 16:24:58 Had characters keep Curare JUST to use on him...no other reason. 16:25:27 Lasty: wearing the artifact lets you cast a given spell as though you had it memorized; probably you get some fake spellpower based on evocations or xl or something 16:25:54 They mulch so easily; you don't want to use them except against a unique or in an emergency...unless...Oka gift Curare ona thrower with a blowgun ever? 16:26:04 <|amethyst> (rAsphyx doesn't completely prevent curare... you can still be poisoned and slowed, you just don't take the damage with rAsphyx) 16:26:10 so like, this plate armour lets you cast fireball at middling power even though you don't really know magic 16:27:20 ontoclasm ...why? I mean it's not like it's one of those spells that has good use at low power. 16:27:32 it's just an example 16:27:50 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: sounds like it overlaps uncomfortably with +Invis +Flight etc 16:28:13 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: or, rather, why not just make it +Fireball instead of pretending to be a spell 16:28:22 -!- jeremie__ is now known as jeremie_ 16:28:23 that's pretty much what it is, i guess 16:28:30 <|amethyst> I guess you could parameterise it with a spell enum 16:28:35 Silent Knife.: Makes no melee noise (ever) can be evoked for a small silence halo (Radius: 3, permanent, until canceled). 16:28:40 <|amethyst> but probably only some spells make sense there 16:28:58 yeah, the idea was to pick a few spells for which it would be interesting 16:29:27 -!- jeremie_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:36 Silence, MAYBE meph cloud, butterflies...maybe +Portal Projectile on a bow... 16:29:41 sticky flame 16:29:55 ontoclasm: something like that came up earlier; I had the impression that other devs were against more activatible properties 16:30:01 hm 16:30:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:30:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:31:00 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31:03 I don't think I want targeted activatable properties 16:31:07 It does seem a little silly to have the SAME THING available multiple ways like that. 16:31:48 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:03 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:32:35 You have to ask why there's /Tele, "tele and ?Tele sometimes...then you get an artifact armour that's */+ Tele and like...yea? what? 16:33:49 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:35:07 oh my god, potion petition is so expensive 16:35:18 my second one cost 550! 16:35:38 ... does the same cost increment counter get used for potions and shops? 16:35:43 * Bcadren adds Gozag to the list of gods that can kill you. 16:36:13 no 16:36:25 not that it matters, both abilities are awful 16:36:25 jesus, it starts that high 16:36:27 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 16:36:40 !lg 16:36:40 789. perunasaurus the Nimble (L15 OpAE of Elyvilon), slain by an ettin (a +0 dire flail) on Orc:3 on 2015-03-16 17:38:14, with 61838 points after 31794 turns and 1:22:28. 16:36:45 !lg . -2 16:36:45 788/789. perunasaurus the Nimble (L21 MuSu of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-16 16:06:11, with 1507813 points after 65456 turns and 2:44:20. 16:36:47 Gods that can kill you. - Xom, Zin, Chei, Qazlal, Gozag. 16:36:50 thankfully you can't starve to death as mu 16:36:52 <_miek> I'm not sure why his abilities cost more each time you use them 16:37:04 I'm not sure why he's in stable 16:37:10 Lasty: did you take off faith or something? the second use costs 350 or something like that 16:37:16 well actually I am but anyway 16:38:24 MarvinPA: no 16:38:33 MarvinPA: I mean, I didn't pick the cheapest offer 16:38:38 but still, 550! 16:39:28 Gozag might actually be worse than Xom. I don't see any practical use for him...and the lack of food will kill you easily unless you are undead. Going Trog, Sif or Okawaru if you want godgifted stuff makes SO much more sense than Gozag's shop ability. And bribing is...meh. Just meh. 16:41:06 have you ever tried eating food you found on the ground 16:41:15 i dont advocate it in real life, but in crawl it's a good thing 16:42:40 -!- tstbtto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:42:49 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42:51 ever tried eating a turkey you found inside a wall? I don't advocate it in real life, but in Castlevania it's a good thing. 16:43:56 <|amethyst> !lg * won -log 16:43:57 26919. hungryneko, XL27 GrFi, T:72684: https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/hungryneko/morgue-hungryneko-20150316-213054.txt 16:44:23 <|amethyst> ate 208 chunks 16:44:41 <|amethyst> = 208000 nutrition 16:44:48 !log . op gozag won 16:44:49 1. perunasaurus, XL26 OpTm, T:76638: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/perunasaurus/morgue-perunasaurus-20140721-021459.txt 16:45:04 <|amethyst> ended the game with, in inventory only, 39 bread rations, 26 meat rations, and 29 fruits 16:45:14 Gozag is of no benefit in extended? 16:45:17 iirc all 10 potion petitions were for porridge 16:45:31 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:43 <_miek> he is of benefit but you don't get any gold 16:45:45 <|amethyst> = 326250 nutrition 16:46:03 The shop calling and bribing can't do anything in extended... 16:46:17 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 16:46:29 |amethyst it was a ram issue, i feel silly now :( 16:46:34 Bcadren, bribing works in hell, at least 16:46:55 lookupdb is now back up and running, can you give me a monster which is new/updated in 0.16/turnk want to check its working as expected 16:46:56 <|amethyst> it works in hells and zot, but not pan abyss tomb 16:47:05 <|amethyst> mrwooster: since when? 16:47:16 <|amethyst> mrwooster: 0.15? 16:47:19 ye 16:47:26 <|amethyst> @??shard shrike 16:47:27 shard shrike (12b) | Spd: 30 | HD: 21 | HP: 87-121 | AC/EV: 2/18 | Dam: 2112(cold:21-62) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold++, 08blind | XP: 5345 | Sp: throw icicle (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 16:47:36 That reminds...why are there so few uniques in extended? I mean there's the Unique Hell and Pan Lords, themselves...then Ignacio and the Serpent of Hell. No wandering/random Uniques in Hell or Pan. Crypt non-withstanding. [Even had Saint Roka and Mennas at once on Crypt: 3...that was fun.] 16:47:53 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:48:07 lol, immediate crash 16:48:34 <|amethyst> !lg * skill=conjurations won 16:48:34 1108. Ultraviolent4 the Farming Annihilator (L27 MuIE of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-03-16 11:40:01, with 8459301 points after 208642 turns and 19:11:26. 16:48:36 <|amethyst> !lg * skill=conjurations won -log 16:48:37 1108. Ultraviolent4, XL27 MuIE, T:208642: https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Ultraviolent4/morgue-Ultraviolent4-20150316-114001.txt 16:48:43 <|amethyst> !lg * skill=conjurations !mu won -log 16:48:44 1039. Surr, XL27 GrCj, T:70966: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Surr/morgue-Surr-20150316-054626.txt 16:50:15 gold is "piety" for gozag -- Pikel's slaves and Kirke's hogs give you gold under Gozag 16:51:41 That felt unsatisfactory but profitable 16:51:50 <|amethyst> in that game, 320 chunks = 320k nutrition, 21 bread rations in inventory, 14 meat rations and 19 fruit on the floor, 6 bread 3 meat and 3 pizza in shops = 224450 food 16:52:28 <|amethyst> so Surr's game did require chunks to support that amount of casting 16:52:31 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:53:40 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:27 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:54:34 you can't look at totals and assume at no point it wasn't low... 16:55:08 how does ghoul hunger work? I swear on my ghoul win I ate far more than any other win. 16:56:15 |amethyst - got it working (colors will be fixed in a few mins), see https://lookupdb.guy.ht/#term/shard shrike. Do you think there would be any interest having this linked on the crawl home page? Almost at 20,000 searches in the past few weeks 16:56:59 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:22 ??blind 16:57:23 blind[1/1]: You can blind monsters with Dazzling Spray (temporary), or as a Zin Recite effect (permanent); this means they can't see you (or other monsters) and act as though you are invisible. 16:57:50 why blind resistance? that seems...random? 16:57:58 <|amethyst> it used to be "sense invisible" 16:58:13 <|amethyst> it's for things that "see" without eyes 16:58:44 <|amethyst> or that have good enough other senses to make up for not seeing 16:59:16 <|amethyst> the meaning of those flags has changed a fair amount (it used to be that sense invis was shorter-range than see invis, then that was simplified, then sense invis was turned into see inv + rBlind) 16:59:53 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:00:45 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 17:00:54 <|amethyst> (it also used to be that all sinv monsters were rBlind, but that was changed when Dazzling Spray was introduced) 17:03:40 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:50 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: rebooting irc rPi] 17:10:40 -!- Maud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:46 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:12:27 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:43 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:13:11 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:59 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:23 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:56 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:00 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:17:55 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:18:09 -!- Raurakos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:18:25 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:23:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24:31 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 17:25:53 -!- mercury^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:28:25 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:34:54 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:40:56 -!- caleba has quit [Client Quit] 17:44:16 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:46:35 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:05 -!- Gamesmaster1965 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:48:46 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:13 wait, the haste spell is being discussed for removal? 17:51:48 that would certainly have an impact 17:53:00 <_miek> its kinda interesting how sense inv increases the chance of waking up monsters 17:53:54 also what's with the branch that removes mulching 17:54:09 I mean that would be nice, but wouldn't it leave a mess on the ground 17:57:24 isn't mulch a mess on the ground anyway? :P 17:57:34 -!- darthdiablo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:04 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:58:50 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:59:41 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:30 -!- Dunsworth has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:05:35 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:07:27 -!- abixa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 18:08:01 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-83-g894156c (34) 18:09:35 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:39 haste spell was already removed in most 3-runers 18:10:02 lightli, are you talking about the branch that makes everything always mulch 18:10:05 mrwooster: that's nice 18:10:14 elliptic: really? 18:10:21 PleasingFungus; oh 18:10:24 chequers ? 18:10:25 well it is only in one book now 18:10:31 oh yeah 18:10:44 logicninja is extremely angry about that, btw (haste being rare) 18:11:01 mrwooster: http lookup 18:11:01 I'm glad of it, personally. 18:11:06 and I don't see it in the majority of games, or only get it late enough that there isn't that much point in getting it (since I can tell I have plenty of wand charges/potions of haste) 18:11:07 mrwooster: any plans to support editing of entries? 18:11:28 PleasingFungus: I would rather have haste spell either not exist or be a bit more common, personally 18:11:55 mrwooster: also, the spinner doesn't seem to work in chrome stable 18:11:58 it feels a little strange to me to have a rare spell that duplicates consumables (and rechargeable consumables at that) 18:12:29 I could live with the spell not existing, though I do kind of like having more entries in the poison arrow, haunt, etc genre of spells. 18:13:02 PleasingFungus: I don't mind rare spells if that is what you mean by this genre 18:13:19 is it just me, or is trog piety gain slower 18:13:45 chequers: not sure if the learndb api supports editing… but if you edit it in IRC it will show up on the http site 18:14:00 rare/powerful/not level 8 or 9 18:14:07 haste is noticably rarer in any game now. i have forgotten i have haste memorized this game (though i still have a wand and infinity recharging so im just playing bad) 18:14:23 Lightli: I don't think it's been touched. 18:14:29 mrwooster: it doesn't, so you could either bug gr*nsnark to support writes or add an irc bot i guess 18:15:26 crate has defended haste spell though i forget the specific reasons (one refers to making a wand of haste an even better item than before though) 18:15:28 tbh, i feel like allowing edits on the page might lead to abuse… by requiring people to edit entries via irc, it raises the barrier and stops potential trolls form a quick fix 18:15:48 i think it's intentional that currently you can't edit learndb in private, yes 18:15:54 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:23 -!- Maud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:16:29 (for that kind of reason) 18:16:38 PleasingFungus: I'd be perfectly happy replacing haste by a new L6/7 charm that is also powerful but not haste if someone comes up with a good idea for that 18:16:39 mrwooster: sure, but they could be echoed into public irc for example by sequell 18:16:49 mrwooster: I agree with the concern, fwiw, since there's no 'recent changes' 18:16:58 elliptic: wouldn't someone need to design a good charm first 18:17:16 yes I agree that this isn't easy 18:17:16 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:16 really, removing the charms school would be a lot simpler if the only single-school charms spell didn't exist. 18:18:18 PleasingFungus: or replacing haste by a new rare/powerful L6/7 spell of some other school and removing charms :P 18:18:24 ! 18:18:31 quite powerful...!? 18:19:02 regen becomes pure necro? 18:19:12 imho for 0.17 we should put "try one of those suggestions for fixing charms" on the plan, just like we put on the plan for 0.16. 18:19:14 simmarine: wand of hasting is ridiculously good now, yeah... I don't think removing haste spell would really make it that much better though given how rare it is already 18:19:50 gammafunk: probably? idk. I'm just the retired ideas guy dev, here. 18:20:18 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:25 probably dual-school charms/x spells would get bumped up a level 18:20:31 gammafunk: probably some spells would just lose charms (and become 1 level higher in some cases maybe) and others would get a new second school (if there is a reasonable option) 18:20:32 in this hypothetical charms-school-less world 18:20:38 however, skald basically couldn't exist 18:20:41 which would make me sad 18:20:55 colors working again :) https://lookupdb.guy.ht/#term/nellie 18:21:06 ??book of battle 18:21:07 book of battle[1/1]: Infusion, Shroud of Golubria, Song of Slaying, Spectral Weapon, Regeneration 18:21:30 also I forgot about infusion earlier 18:21:31 sorry 18:21:36 don't we realize how good titles like "Miracle Worker" are?! 18:21:40 mrwooster: nice! 18:21:48 yes I was going to say (but we were criticizing infusion here the other day already) 18:21:50 dang, 18k searches 18:21:54 oh, we were? I missed that 18:22:12 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:15 -!- therealfakemoot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:22:15 hm, is this page 'production ready'? can/should we link to it from somewhere? 18:22:40 you mean the lookup? 18:22:54 ya 18:23:18 well, its been running for about a month now with no issues, I just updated it to 0.17 (was 0.15 before) 18:23:40 as far as production ready, its actively maintained by myself, and its had a lot of use so far 18:23:49 looks great, mrwooster 18:23:53 thanks :) 18:24:10 -!- rusaud has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:24:29 it could still be improved tho… i was thinking of adding a list of community voted top searches to help out new players 18:24:37 and also an autocomplete feature 18:24:41 !learn set gammafunk[3] greaterplayer: MiBe^Trog->Mak SpEn^Ash 18:24:42 gammafunk[3/13]: greaterplayer: MiBe^Trog->Mak SpEn^Ash 18:24:49 !learn del gammafunk[5] 18:24:50 Deleted gammafunk[5/13]: SpEn^Ash 18:25:13 !learn del gammafunk[9] 18:25:14 Deleted gammafunk[9/12]: dang, mistyped had to quit 18:25:28 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:25:44 also, it caches responses from learndb for 24h so its not hitting the API too hard 18:26:20 !learn del gammafunk[10] 18:26:21 Deleted gammafunk[10/11]: EXTREMELY problematic, imho 18:26:23 !learn del gammafunk[9] 18:26:24 Deleted gammafunk[9/10]: see {refactoring[2]} 18:26:26 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:30 !learn del gammafunk[8] 18:26:31 Deleted gammafunk[8/9]: Sworn enemies of gods, especially gambling gods. 18:26:49 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:59 cleaning up...!? 18:27:03 we need some good learndb stats to do targetted removal 18:27:26 I was fond of [10 but I would be 18:27:28 ??refactoring[2 18:27:29 I don't have a page labeled refactoring[2] in my learndb. 18:27:31 huh 18:27:42 ??refactoring 18:27:42 I don't have a page labeled refactoring in my learndb. 18:27:45 rip 18:27:59 mrwooster: it would be cool if there was a way to search the learndb for all entries containing a particular word or phrase 18:28:38 yeah 18:28:44 ?/PleasingFungus 18:28:45 Matching terms (1): pleasingfungus; entries (37): beam.cc[2] | crawl[10] | devsprint[6] | devteam[17] | devteam[19] | devteam[20] | devteam[25] | dumb[2] | epic_bugs[17] | epic_bugs[21] | future_of_crawl[1] | grunt[2] | grunt[14] | grunt[17] | grunt[19] | hangedman[19] | literally[12] | oops[1] | pleasingfungus[1] | pleasingfungus[2] | pleasingfungus[5] | pleasingfungus[6] | pleasingfungus[7] | pl... 18:28:47 like that 18:28:48 elliptic: there is ;) the learndb API supports it, i just havent added it to the site yet 18:28:50 ??future of crawl 18:28:51 future of crawl[1/1]: If you want a picture of crawl's future, imagine PleasingFungus shaking his head -- for ever. 18:28:58 sounds right 18:29:05 mrwooster: ah, cool 18:29:07 -!- BlackMustard has quit [Excess Flood] 18:30:33 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:38 mrwooster: I am so so happy somebody got the monster bots/learndb thing to work again :D :D 18:33:29 reaverb: thanks, thats why i created it, i used to use the old one the whole time, and really struggled when it went down 18:34:26 I just memorized all of the stats for all the monsters, which really made play a lot quicker 18:36:10 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:38:14 imo this could replace the wiki, with a couple of features 18:39:20 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:41 there are things that the wiki is good for that learndb is not, just by virtue of the format 18:41:43 e.g. http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Roulette_of_Golubria 18:42:00 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:42:12 I mean that page is insane but the maps are useful & not something that learndb can do. 18:42:17 &dump ryuzilla 18:42:17 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Ryuzilla/Ryuzilla.txt 18:42:29 <_miek> if it just got rid of "tips" it could easily be the best resource 18:42:35 %git 9ae1ffb6 18:42:36 07tenofswords02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-1347-g9ae1ffb: Wizlab modernizing edits 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 2 files, 559+ 541-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ae1ffb6955b 18:43:38 ??lookup 18:43:39 I don't have a page labeled lookup in my learndb. 18:43:50 !learn add lookup https://lookupdb.guy.ht/ 18:43:51 lookup[1/1]: https://lookupdb.guy.ht/ 18:44:44 hm 18:44:50 i should make some of those wizlab tiles 18:44:57 ...or get somebody else to do so 18:45:08 hi c-dev 18:45:10 !tell Grunt Enthusiastic love for Q coming from twitch 18:45:10 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 18:45:27 is twitch watching crawl 18:45:36 oh 18:45:40 fr twitch plays dcss 18:45:41 I'll drop in in a sec 18:46:11 i gotta sign off, open to any input on lookupdb.guy.ht, msg me :) 18:46:13 wherever you are Kappa 18:46:16 er wow 18:46:33 (you can tell that I hand out on Twitch entirely too often these da ys) 18:46:36 mrwooster: maybe a not pure-white background :C 18:46:51 Grunt has some special membership 18:46:54 -!- TastyLemonDrops has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 18:49:36 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:49:46 someone explained kappa to me yesterday and then I immediately forgot 18:49:51 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:01 please don't explain it again; I have enough useless knowledge rattling around this old skull of mine as it is 18:53:56 PleasingFungus: "The main symbol/emote of Twitch.tv. It represents sarcasm, irony, puns, jokes, and trolls alike. If you see this term used outside of Twitch.tv, then this is not the correct definition. Usually used at the end of an ironic or sarcastic sentence. Sentences that contain a Kappa should not be taken seriously. If you search "Kappa Twitch.tv" in Google you can see what the emote looks like, and why it is used as it is. S 18:54:07 I didn't read that 18:54:13 /clear 18:54:23 this is what they call 'tech'. 18:54:34 reading that made me dumber. 18:54:56 PleasingFungus: now you know how I fell when people talk about SA 18:55:11 ontoclasm: 18:55:11 !lg twitchplayscrawl 18:55:12 8. twitchplayscrawl the Caller (L1 GrSu), slain by a rat (summoned by the player character) on D:1 (lemuel_arrival_room) on 2014-04-10 02:57:30, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:05:31. 18:55:32 SA: "let me tell you about the time I was the biggest troll in UO twenty years ago" 18:55:54 sa is a man with many faces. 18:56:00 most of them are kind of stupid looking. 18:57:18 when will zombies and other unintelligent allies stop stepping on dangerous traps 18:57:37 why do they know how to avoid a zot trap or a shadow trap but will willingly step on alarm traps 18:57:38 do they do that? I thought they didn't 18:57:40 oh 18:57:44 I think that's all allies 18:57:51 yeah that's very annoying, I agree 18:58:03 would be easy to change, if you wanted to 18:58:14 its just very frustrating having to guide allies around alarm traps if i really want to play it safe 18:58:15 I mean, if you have commit access to dungeon crawl 18:58:22 not like in your rcfile or something 18:58:26 yes 18:58:37 also I guess you might be gammafunk 18:58:39 in that sentence 18:58:54 it's a strange and distressing experience, but I'll do my best to guide you through it. 18:59:04 the first thing is that you must resist the urge to ^Q immediately. 18:59:11 well i am playing a high elf who has allies so i kinda have it down 18:59:19 -!- coffee` has quit [Quit: coffee`] 18:59:34 ! 18:59:36 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:50 zombie allies but allies nonetheless (i dont discriminate!) 18:59:59 ugh playing through pan has motivated me to write a good finite pan patch 19:00:04 so I know vaguely when it will be over 19:00:55 first, post the design on gdd. 19:00:58 then, lose all will to live. 19:01:01 finally, do whatever. 19:01:52 this is the legendary *DCSS-Design Sutra.* 19:01:55 -!- mercury^ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:02:27 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 19:02:42 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-84-ge1080d0: Don't show an expiry message for PbD with no corpses in range 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1080d0964a2 19:02:42 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-85-g2dc99ae: Don't randomly generate Killer Klown zombies 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2dc99aed7da5 19:02:42 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-86-g4569f96: Give wands of fireball, lightning and draining 15 max charges 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4569f9660125 19:05:07 Plcan I skip to step 3 19:05:28 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:53 It's amazing how bad your equipment can be after buyng 10 stores 19:06:04 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 19:06:30 er 19:06:35 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06:38 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:02 I guess that last MPA commit isn't that big a deal, but 19:07:28 and those first two should be cherry-picked 19:08:01 I guess both could be not cherry-picked 19:08:46 yes, I doubt anyone is really excited to see the wand change :P (good though it is) 19:09:45 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:09:50 elliptic: well we have other commits sitting in branches that are probably less exciting still 19:10:15 yes 19:10:49 I guess we should just have a rule of no "major" balance changes in 0.17 during tournament, or something, since there's probably not a need to be terribly strict 19:10:54 I don't think we've ever had the policy "no non-cherrypickable commits during tourney" 19:11:06 I think just people like commitstorming 19:13:25 -!- hhkb has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:15:17 oh the other trap thing i remembered: intelligent monsters actively avoid shadow traps too!! even though it is probably to their benefit to annoy you 19:16:01 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:16:32 <_miek> its kind of a strange idea to name it a trap when the thing that enters it doesn't get punished 19:16:51 -!- Maud has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:17:27 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:22:43 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:23:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:23 simmarine: um 19:25:25 are you sure about that 19:25:30 um 19:25:31 yes 19:25:46 things like orcs, humans, etc will step around a shadow trap 19:25:46 I just tested, and intelligent non-friendly monsters are more than happy to walk into shadow traps. 19:26:01 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:25 I can't reproduce this. 19:26:40 If you can, please file a bug. 19:26:42 well i see it all the time, maybe if i notice it near a milestone i can show 19:26:45 OK. 19:26:51 i have a list of bugs to report after the tourney 19:27:47 Why wait? 19:28:23 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:31 hm 19:28:38 monster trap avoidance logic checks mons_flies() 19:28:40 that seems incorrect 19:29:24 oh, I think I see how to reproduce it 19:29:26 let's see 19:29:50 out of interest, why have a trunk freeze during the tourney? 19:29:57 two reasons 19:30:08 (1) makes bugfixing easier, since divergence in the codebase could cause messiness otherwise 19:30:15 (2) don't encourage people to play trunk for new features 19:31:34 fun fact: chrome has 70% marketshare for crawl tiles players 19:31:40 those make sense, thanks 19:32:09 chrome?? 19:32:13 worth a shot 19:32:37 http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/115/d/7/fenrir_bound_by_poledrey-d4xiixa.jpg 19:34:12 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:29 PleasingFungus: if you're hoping it helps with the slowdown, it only helps in that it runs JS a little faster than the competition, so the slowdown is less noticable 19:34:40 no I - 19:34:42 nevermind 19:36:11 oh, sequell 19:36:33 it was a dumb clang?? joke 19:36:36 or reference 19:36:38 or something 19:36:41 life is really hard 19:37:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:38:13 huh, intelligent allies already try to avoid stepping on tele traps if near you 19:38:15 didn't know that 19:38:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 19:40:43 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40:45 "did anyone ever tell the devs that the bone rune looks like a penis?" 19:41:11 I'll encourage them to submit a patch 19:41:45 ??tiles_unreasons 19:41:46 tiles unreasons[1/5]: the bone rune tile looks uncomfortably close to a dildo, imo 19:42:17 hahah 19:42:19 it's called the boner rune for a reason... 19:42:47 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:46:00 !lg tstbtto 19:46:01 714. tstbtto the Invulnerable (L27 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-03-16 07:12:07, with 2708569 points after 58046 turns and 1:55:01. 19:46:04 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:46:15 !lg tstbtto hobe 19:46:15 16. tstbtto the Executioner (L16 HOBe of Trog), slain by a thorn hunter (kmap: swamp) on Swamp:5 on 2015-03-11 07:55:35, with 124801 points after 28660 turns and 0:24:05. 19:46:19 !lg tstbtto hobe won 19:46:20 1. tstbtto the Conqueror (L27 HOBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-01 00:05:21, with 1839953 points after 60099 turns and 0:20:31. 19:46:36 &rc tstbtto 19:46:37 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/tstbtto.rc 19:48:05 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:49:55 simmarine: ok, fixed. ty for the report 19:50:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-87-g01065d6: Don't make monsters avoid dormant shadow traps 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=01065d6a3374 19:50:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-88-g3935755: Flatten some monster trap code 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 29+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3935755d5ba4 19:50:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-89-g0df2a20: Fliers shouldn't think they're immune to mechtraps 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0df2a2020f22 19:50:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-90-g6bcc94d: Don't make monsters avoid shadow traps (simm) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bcc94d8ec94 19:50:08 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-9-gb314868: Don't make monsters avoid dormant shadow traps 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b314868ed20b 19:50:08 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-10-g0d2c9ba: Fliers shouldn't think they're immune to mechtraps 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d2c9bafcd05 19:50:08 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-11-gd45b091: Don't make monsters avoid shadow traps (simm) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d45b091ac94c 19:50:10 "which report" 19:50:10 now someone can remove shadow traps in full knowledge of the justice of their ways. 19:50:10 and cool 19:52:07 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:54:46 johnstein: WORKING AS INTENDED 19:56:08 i like it when people make these huge spread-out stashes as the guy is doing on twitch 19:56:21 it makes me feel like my efforts are appreciated 19:56:27 haha 19:56:57 I forget, did you ever see the huge stash I took a screenshot of & posted on sa, ages back 19:57:02 yeah 19:57:05 that was something 19:57:18 i saw that one guy's stash of Almost Literally Every Unrand 19:57:42 jazz, right? 19:58:03 yeah 19:58:21 -- Fruit! Only once, though: infinite fruit is abusable. 19:58:31 hashtag crawlcode 19:58:33 need to create an artifact orb of destruction for jazzimus 19:58:43 s/artifact/unrand/ 20:00:00 gonna need a second opinion on @crawlcoding that one 20:00:02 gammafunk? 20:00:18 which one 20:00:56 oh 20:01:30 yeah that doesn't feel quite @crawlcode to me, but who am I to judge 20:02:10 it's too... factually correct 20:03:06 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:07 The build was broken. (master - 4569f96 #1985 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/54653545 20:03:07 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:05:44 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:07:19 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:55 oh good 20:08:56 .gmap 20:09:03 130. onursoysal the Swordmaster (L24 MiBe of Trog), slain by an octopode crusher on Depths:4 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2015-03-16 23:55:41, with 509744 points after 57733 turns and 9:26:04. 20:09:04 double-kill 20:09:06 .gmap -tv 20:09:14 130. onursoysal, XL24 MiBe, T:57733 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:10:15 this situation seems bad, for him. 20:10:22 oo, good waterfumbling. 20:11:30 will have to watch the setup to that later 20:16:26 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:17:30 -!- Maud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:18:25 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:18:35 gammafunk: you're a dev, do you think you could convince and into to keep the tavern thanks system 20:18:38 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:18:55 minmay: why did you thank all the posts asking to remove it! 20:18:59 gammafunk: because I've decided we need a tavern account called "This is bad advice" to thank posts by berder and bcadren 20:19:10 haha 20:19:31 gammafunk: it'll be a coolrobin type system, the password is given to all good players 20:20:09 I forsee a neverending war between competeing thankrobin accounts... 20:20:28 *never ending and *competing 20:20:39 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:21:03 -!- reaverb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:21:29 BAD POST THANKER 20:21:41 taken too soon 20:21:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:09 BAD POST THANKER isn't specific enough 20:23:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:30 nearly all posts are bad 20:23:38 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:24:17 wow..."To identify posts with true value you can just add all users to your ignore list except for mikee and crate" 20:24:43 ahhh, the friendly and not-at-all irredeemably toxic crawl tavern 20:25:12 ...that's an interesting turn of phrase 20:25:15 hm 20:25:16 ...yes 20:25:24 somewhere we went wrong with a negative 20:25:28 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:50 gammafunk: you aren't going to thank me to make the forum seem insular and semi-abusive? 20:25:57 Casting spell with 100% failure rate 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9555 by Sandman25 20:25:57 no, one of those was sarcastic, obviously. 20:26:24 I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with Arrhythmia, I'll get to you eventually 20:27:46 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:48 "I've also witnessed it being used to make the forum seem insular and semi-abusive (for example, when everyone thanks a diss). 20:28:51 " 20:28:58 see, people say that, but they always thank a gammadunk 20:29:00 what forum is this? 20:29:07 which subforum, I should say 20:29:09 so, I was thinking about setting up the frontpage for dcss on a dedicated domain name -- any thoughts? 20:29:20 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=11&p=211787#p210672 20:30:04 oh wow, don't think I've ever browsed to just develz.org 20:30:08 it's a thing 20:30:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:30:24 that's... huh 20:30:29 oh it was until like 2013 20:30:40 "Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.5.2 released!" 20:30:48 random post I guess 20:31:42 chequers: yeah, it's not unreasonable I suppose, there's kind of a question of ownership though 20:32:08 there are two reasons I was thinking about it, the obvious one is 1) better domain name, but the hidden one is 2) better performance since it's on a CDN 20:32:39 well 20:32:40 what's on a cdn? 20:32:44 the new frontpage laods like a meg of data right now, which is a lot and could be less with compression 20:32:50 it's not exactly a new question of ownership 20:32:55 chequers: are rc files working for 0.16? also macros don't seem to save 20:33:00 gammafunk: dcss-website the checkout, basically 20:33:01 the current site is not held in trust for the crawl team, or something... 20:33:34 PleasingFungus: yes, but nap.kin kind of owns all of the cdo stuff, and if he didn't register it then two people kind of own it. It's probably just not a major issue though 20:33:40 -!- debo_ is now known as debo 20:34:13 Maybe we need some way to manage something like "crawl domain registration" and "crawl apple dev key", since problems like this come up a lot 20:34:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:34:44 maybe "keep doing what we're doing wrt ownership" is just fine in the end, however 20:35:03 I think so, tbh 20:35:05 chequers: I guess I don't know how a different hostname should mean we can or can't use a CDN 20:35:09 it's not like you need to start a foundation 20:35:57 when PleasingFungus files a lawsuite, I'm going to say "I told you so" so much 20:36:00 gammafunk: well, if you want to serve index.htm off a CDN, the frontpage's domain needs to point at a CDN, which is problematic when it comes to tavern/mantis/wiki, ie all the other things on that domain which can't really go via a CDN 20:36:07 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:09 *lawsuit 20:36:39 alternatives: certain CDNs will support passthrough, or you could serve only non-html from the CDN 20:37:29 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:36 oh, so you mean crawl.develz.org content will go to dcssthagaem.com and crawl.develz.org/tavern and crawl.develz.org/wordpress will just live on 20:37:58 dcssthagaem 20:37:59 yep 20:38:07 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:38:46 perhaps they could move to tavern.dcssthagaem.com but it's not important, IMO 20:38:55 chequers: this reminds me, did you finish that download page? 20:39:24 nap.kin said something about there being a problem with the website dir permissions for the git repo, but said it was otherwise ok 20:39:28 you mean https://crawl.project357.org/static/dcss-web/download.htm ? 20:39:56 It's *iterated* with all the feedback you & others had :) 20:39:57 yeah, you told me at one point, "wait for me to commit this" 20:40:10 so I just waited 20:40:11 oh right, that was literally 5s later 20:40:22 the repo is up to date now 20:40:42 also, I submitted a bug for the INSTALL.txt rewrite 20:40:56 since I figured there would be wider interest in essentially gutting it 20:41:02 oh, nap.kin is right, website is root:root 755 20:41:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:46 if you can overwrite individual files you can simply copy the updated download.htm + 2 images as a hack 20:42:22 sure but I'd like changes to the website not be terribly ad-hoc I guess, anyhow I'll update that 20:42:33 true, no rush 20:43:41 heh. just noticed none of the pages have 20:43:53 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 20:44:32 <gammafunk> is this further into nem choices than we've been in previous tournaments? 20:44:58 <gammafunk> ??nchoice 20:44:58 <Sequell> nemelex' choice[1/2]: The Nemelex' Choice banner is a {tournament} banner awarded to players who win certain randomly selected combos during the tournament. See [2] for a list of the combos that have been selected in the past. 20:45:03 <gammafunk> ??nchoice[2 20:45:03 <Sequell> nemelex' choice[2/2]: Choices made from 2009 through to 2012: OgFE HaNe TrIE MfTh KeCK | GhFE HaTm SEAs MDEn NaPr | HaVM TrAs VpAE OgCj KoSk HOAr DEHu CeWz SpDK DDEn SEGl HuAK HENe KePr | MiSt HuPr FeSk DDAM VpCj DrWr DgAs HaEE MfNe CeHe HOAE KoWn SEDK | OpHu TeDK MiNe GhAE DDSu KoCj VpAK HuAM FeCK MuWn HEAs CeWz 20:45:08 <johnstein> chequers: minor suggestion for download page. zoom out on tiles image to have a 1:1 with the console 20:45:08 <johnstein> I could provide images if you don't have time or want to do it 20:45:18 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:46:20 <chequers> johnstein: yeah, it's a little weird, but I found zooming tiles didn't look great and making the ascii bigger looked dumb 20:47:05 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:48:14 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49:16 <chequers> dcssgame.kim1 year - $19.61 20:49:40 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:50:40 <elliptic> gammafunk: https://github.com/elliptic/dcss_tourney/blob/master/nemelex-combos-v15.txt 20:50:45 <gammafunk> oh, ty 20:51:07 <elliptic> so yeah, last tourney 7 nchoices had been won by this time 20:51:23 <elliptic> and this time 14 have 20:51:31 <chequers> are there more players this time around? 20:51:44 <elliptic> there are somewhat more, but they've been winning a lot more 20:51:49 <elliptic> !tstats 3 t0.15 20:51:50 <johnstein> !tstats 4 20:51:51 <elliptic> !tstats 3 t0.16 20:51:55 <johnstein> oops 20:51:59 <Sequell> Stats after 3 days (t0.15): 1125 players, 261 runers, 121 winners, 178 wins, 11880 games, winrate 1.50%, total player time 257d+1:06:43. 20:52:00 <elliptic> johnstein: we aren't through the 4th day yet 20:52:03 <Sequell> Stats after 4 days (t): 1373 players, 528 runers, 286 winners, 457 wins, 11871 games, winrate 3.85%, total player time 1y+6d+6:10:28. 20:52:06 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:08 <Sequell> Stats after 3 days (t0.16): 1304 players, 481 runers, 263 winners, 410 wins, 10674 games, winrate 3.84%, total player time 330d+16:31:52. 20:52:08 <chequers> nice 20:52:18 <elliptic> so 1304 players vs 1125 20:52:19 <gammafunk> yeah that's a lot faster through the nem choices, seemed like it was 20:52:30 <elliptic> but over twice as many players with at least one win 20:52:45 <chequers> players are much better it seems 20:52:49 <wheals> chequers: trying to get the dungeoncrawl.org domain has been vaguely discussed a few times 20:52:51 <elliptic> or the game is easier 20:53:02 <elliptic> hard to tell which 20:53:27 <wheals> currently it tells you that the latest release is beta 26 of version 4 20:53:46 -!- mauris has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:54:30 <chequers> do you know who owns it? 20:54:46 <chequers> D. Brodale 20:54:47 <wheals> i think it says somewhere on the site 20:54:50 <chequers> from NY 20:54:53 <wheals> that's {dlb} i think 20:55:48 <elliptic> ??dlb 20:55:48 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled dlb in my learndb. 20:56:06 <chequers> ?/dlb 20:56:07 <Sequell> Matching entries (3): devsprint[11]: dlb: doesn't attack you, just makes lots of comments about your play. | loopy[1]: stands for General Purpose Looping Variable {dlb} | snorg[2]: // was Anita - 16jan2000 {dlb} 20:56:10 <chequers> !seen dlb 20:56:10 <Sequell> Sorry chequers, I haven't seen dlb. 20:56:46 <wheals> 1learn add dlb // stands for Don L. Brodale {dlb} 20:57:00 <chequers> anyone got an email address? 20:57:10 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:58:09 <chequers> nothing in repo history that i could see 20:58:12 <wheals> dpeg might 20:58:41 <wheals> according to whois.icann.org it was actually updated in 2014, as hard as that is to believe 20:58:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:58:59 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:59:03 <chequers> well, how do people feel about me getting in touch with dlb to get access to the domain name for dcss's official site? 20:59:23 <chequers> wheals: may simply be when it was renewed 21:00:35 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:54 <wheals> i think i read about some attempt in the past, maybe search ##crawl-dev logs for 'dungeoncrawl.org'? 21:01:54 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 21:02:50 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:03:11 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:05:28 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:08:22 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:28 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:38 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:12:32 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:16:29 <minmay> ??jelly 21:16:29 <Sequell> jelly[1/3]: This monster has laid many an adventurer to an early rest with its ability to corrode weapons and armour. The beginner uses darts, the experienced use resistant weapons, the wise use stones, and the cornered use wands. 21:16:40 <minmay> when were darts removed again 21:17:22 <minmay> around sep 2013 right? 21:17:22 <simmarine> resistant weapons 21:17:22 <simmarine> that sounds way too long ago 21:17:46 <minmay> resistant weapons were removed after darts 21:17:53 <simmarine> i meant wrt darts 21:18:40 <minmay> https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/search.php?author_id=62&sr=posts&sf=all&ch=-1 my post complaining about tomahawks is from sep 2013 and werent darts removed pretty soon after 21:18:50 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:18:52 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:18:59 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:19:18 <simmarine> http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=181ecfb998c0b570a842483dbbf6e299d6d8f235 21:19:30 <minmay> ah 21:19:50 -!- orneryos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:22:53 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:33:12 -!- Gamesmaster1965 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:35:25 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:08 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:03 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:39:03 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:07 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:44:27 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:03 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:47:05 -!- minmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:47:30 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:46 <gammafunk> chequers: looks like you missed moving one shell command comment (at the top) on the download page, and the anchor links in index.htm to the downloads don't work 21:51:50 <gammafunk> but other than that it's updated 21:52:13 <gammafunk> I had to make the images link to "tileimgs/blah" since I can't make an img folder 21:55:51 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:53 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55:56 -!- Gingerlord has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:56:29 <chequers> oops, & I'll update the paths to match reality 21:57:11 <chequers> gammafunk: you mean splashimgs/? 21:57:26 <gammafunk> chequers: on the download page, the tile/console pair of images 21:57:44 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:57:58 <gammafunk> no I pointed to tileimgs on cdo, if that's what you mean 21:59:19 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:59:55 <Bcadren> caustic shrikes should probably have rAcid... 22:00:01 <Cheibriados> caustic shrike (09b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 17 | HP: 90-128 | AC/EV: 10/18 | Dam: 4008(acid:7d3) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire, 02cold, 08blind | XP: 4359 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 22:00:01 <Bcadren> %??Caustic shrike 22:00:50 -!- DrStalker has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:00:54 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:00:55 <Bcadren> For that matter; I've been meaning to ask why Slime Creatures don't. They never have; but...they are the only J's that don't. 22:01:17 <nicolae-> i thought all the inhabitants of slime had rAcid 22:01:28 <gammafunk> @??golden_eye 22:01:28 <Gretell> golden eye (08G) | Spd: 13 | HD: 6 | HP: 6-18 | AC/EV: 0/20 | lev | Res: 06magic(60), asphyx, 12drown | XP: 191 | Sp: confusion gaze [11!AM, 06!sil], blink [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 22:01:31 <gammafunk> nay 22:01:41 <nicolae-> but... the walls 22:01:50 <nicolae-> the walls don't burn them, gammafunk 22:01:54 <nicolae-> the walls... don't... burn them 22:02:21 <gammafunk> nicolae- the eyes don't *see* walls, they only see madness 22:02:53 <nicolae-> where we're going we won't need eyes to see 22:03:34 <Lantell> Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16.0-11-gd45b091 22:03:34 <Cheibriados> slime creature (03J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 49-73 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 22 | amphibious, regen | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 263 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 22:03:34 <Bcadren> %??slime creature 22:03:38 <Cheibriados> jelly (04J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 13-21 | AC/EV: 0/2 | Dam: 308(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(10), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 42 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 22:03:38 <Bcadren> %??jelly 22:03:53 <Bcadren> Pretty sure Slimes are the only J's with no rAcid. 22:04:17 <gammafunk> !lg * br=slime s=ikiller 22:04:18 <Sequell> 3641 games for * (br=slime): 1176x the royal jelly, 864x an acid blob, 487x, 404x an azure jelly, 139x a slime creature, 60x a death ooze, 51x a large slime creature, 48x a brown ooze, 42x a titanic slime creature, 39x an eye of devastation, 37x an enormous slime creature, 37x a very large slime creature, 37x a royal jelly, 34x a giant amoeba, 33x a great orb of eyes, 25x Dissolution, 16x a giant ... 22:04:21 <gammafunk> !lg * br=slime s=cikiller 22:04:21 <Sequell> 3641 games for * (br=slime): 1176x the royal jelly, 864x an acid blob, 487x, 404x an azure jelly, 139x a slime creature, 60x a death ooze, 51x a large slime creature, 48x a brown ooze, 42x a titanic slime creature, 39x an eye of devastation, 37x a very large slime creature, 37x an enormous slime creature, 37x a royal jelly, 34x a giant amoeba, 33x a great orb of eyes, 30x a player ghost, 25x Disso... 22:04:32 <gammafunk> and yet they manage to kill players 22:04:39 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:30 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:05:48 -!- reaverb1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:06:55 <chequers> gammafunk: tileimgs is a new directory right? 22:07:00 <chequers> the frontpage tiles are in splashimgs/ 22:07:13 <gammafunk> chequers: no, it already existed on cdo, so I just used it 22:07:21 <gammafunk> chequers: this is on the download page 22:07:34 <gammafunk> the images for the tiles and console screenshots 22:07:36 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:07:36 -!- jeanjacques_ is now known as jeanjacques 22:08:01 <gammafunk> chequers: http://crawl.develz.org/tileimgs/ 22:08:08 <gammafunk> tiles.png, console.png 22:09:30 <gammafunk> It's not a big deal, we can clean things up later; I put a clone of the dcss-website dir in the home directory on cdo, so we can use that on cdo and move the files over to website/ 22:09:55 <gammafunk> website/ is where we have r/w access to existing files/dirs (for the most part), just not to website/ itself 22:11:28 <chequers> ah 22:11:54 <Bcadren> 487x ___ ? 22:12:22 <nicolae-> walls, probably 22:13:18 <Bcadren> the lack of rAcid on Slime Creatures is obviously player helpful...it prevents Acid Blobs firing through them and means when you face them in other places (say the Swamp) they can be taken out by Fedhas Oklobs. 22:15:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:17:05 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:17:18 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:22 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:25:12 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:32 -!- ssteam has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 22:27:36 <chequers> looking in the ##crawl-dev logs, nobody has contact info for dan brodale / dlb 22:27:41 <chequers> I found an old email address in crawl edit history 22:27:50 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:27:55 <chequers> which is still active, so I'll try that 22:29:08 <chequers> *don 22:29:43 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:13 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:34:11 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:15 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:35:35 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:36:48 <chequers> reading the ##crawl-dev logs, nobody has tried to contact him about the domain name, but there are some references to him wanting to keep the site as a museum 22:37:46 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:38:42 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:39:53 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:40:16 <Lightli> joke fr: nerf vampiric weapons 22:41:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:59 <Grunt> !nerf Lightli 22:41:59 * Sequell nerfs Lightli!!! 22:42:18 <Lightli> ? 22:44:47 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:46:43 -!- Frendhel has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:49:37 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:54:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:57:31 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:59:07 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:23 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:59:52 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:19 <chequers> oh hey, linley lives about two hours from me 23:04:04 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:53 <minmay> i probably live like 2 hours from a dev 23:11:10 <minmay> i could get ctele removed in 2 hours and 1 minute! 23:11:28 -!- soundlust_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:14:21 <ontoclasm> This Summer One Man is on a Mission 23:14:41 <ontoclasm> (shot of minmay putting on sunglasses and cocking a shotgun) 23:15:26 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:15:33 <ontoclasm> To Destroy the Ultimate Evil: 23:16:24 <ontoclasm> (shot of duvessa stabbing a guy with a katana) 23:18:04 -!- TastyLemonDrops has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 23:18:16 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:19:26 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:20:05 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:23:22 -!- Utis` has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:27:36 <PleasingFungus> in this scenario, is duvessa the same person as minmay 23:27:40 <PleasingFungus> or are they, like, a team 23:30:10 <PleasingFungus> !tell Grunt f - 1530 gold a phantom mirror 23:30:11 <Sequell> PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 23:31:05 <ontoclasm> PleasingFungus: that's the question!!! 23:31:24 * Grunt reflects PleasingFungus with the mirror, and the mirror shatters! 23:33:00 <PleasingFungus> hey, I'm not that ugly.... 23:33:09 <PleasingFungus> hrm. vault wardens seem to exert a passive anti-clouds-in-doorways field 23:33:11 <PleasingFungus> I'm not sure that's intended 23:33:18 <PleasingFungus> (like, even when they aren't sealing the doors) 23:39:58 -!- walterch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:40:13 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:40:28 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:15 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:42:55 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 23:43:31 <Bcadren> cTele is weird. extremely powerful, some characters get it on d:1 some never find it at all (not sure what the weighting on the ring is)...Sif guarantees the book, but... 23:46:56 <Bcadren> Kind of feel like the Ring and the Spell should be removed and it should move to like...Invocation only on a god...but I'm not sure what else that god should have so...that's as far as that thought goes with me. Never really played a Warper though; just used PProj for the Smite Targetting on some hunter-types...and cBlink in late game (I feel like most characters that can spells do that though). 23:48:29 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:48:49 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:59 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 23:50:33 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:53:39 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:59:23 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-90-g6bcc94d (34)