00:00:14 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt I noticed a lot of our contribs have commits from you that aren't in branch master, so they're detached-heads 00:00:14 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 00:02:06 <|amethyst> hm, how to get it to rebuild that one contrib without forcing a rebuild of them all 00:03:09 -!- fireprfHydra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:04:01 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt I mention it in part because it seems like the kind of thing that might be lost in the repo move if we're not careful 00:04:01 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 00:05:42 <|amethyst> n1k: aha 00:05:45 <|amethyst> n1k: rm .contrib-libs 00:05:53 <|amethyst> n1k: in the crawl source directory 00:06:01 <|amethyst> n1k: that should make it notice it needs to rebuild contribs 00:06:23 okay 00:06:59 <|amethyst> if it worked, the make debug should start off by building sqlite, then do the LINK crawl.exe step again 00:07:04 let's see what happens 00:07:15 <|amethyst> if it worked too well, it will rebuild all of crawl :/ 00:07:20 doesn't look like it worked 00:07:34 by the way that file .contrib-libs was blank 00:07:45 <|amethyst> yeah, it's supposed to be empty 00:07:55 okay 00:08:07 <|amethyst> it's just there to have a timestamp for the makefile 00:08:15 unfortunately it just went to the LINK crawl.exe step first, again 00:09:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:23 <|amethyst> okay, try rm contrib/install/x86_64-pc-cygwin/lib/libsqlite3.a and try it again 00:09:58 <|amethyst> 00:10:46 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-b1-43-g221888f 00:10:52 a whole new meaning to "Get that Linux feeling - on Windows" 00:11:38 <|amethyst> btw, you should really get ccache 00:12:01 <|amethyst> then rebuilds aren't to be feared so much :) 00:12:35 <|amethyst> at this point I'd probably just try a clean rebuild (with the patch and the sqlite3.c change) 00:12:37 " * rebuilding sqlite: new build flags or prefix" 00:12:40 <|amethyst> ooh 00:12:53 <|amethyst> *popcorn* 00:12:54 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-58-ga80393f (34) 00:13:37 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:14:49 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt oh, I see, origin/sdl2 00:14:49 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 00:16:53 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:17:13 |amethyst, alas, you know what 00:17:38 <|amethyst> same place or somewhere else? 00:18:24 same 00:19:27 <|amethyst> I'm stumped then :( 00:19:57 thanks for your help nonetheless, I think you got very close 00:20:00 <|amethyst> but file a bug on mantis with the patch I gave you and the other information about the sqlite link errors 00:21:19 alright 00:21:20 <|amethyst> and maybe try a complete make clean + make when you get a chance 00:21:32 <|amethyst> but I'm not staying up longer enough to wait for that :) 00:21:53 I'll tell you if I get things working, thanks again for your help 00:22:01 <|amethyst> np, and good luck 00:22:10 <|amethyst> and thanks for your help 00:22:11 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:23:05 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:23:32 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:43 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:24:50 -!- robmoose has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:31 I'm getting this error: /crawl-master/crawl-git-a80393fcb0/data/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des:2499:unknown monster: "spectral holy swine" 00:25:39 when I enter the game, then I get booted 00:25:44 <|amethyst> oh right 00:25:53 <|amethyst> !tell chequers nm, it's a trunk problem, not CPO 00:25:53 |amethyst: OK, I'll let chequers know. 00:26:16 Will this likely fix itself, or is my save-file hosed? 00:26:27 <|amethyst> it will be fixed 00:26:39 thanks 00:26:52 <|amethyst> trying to decide whether to remove the vault or revert the change 00:27:31 Where I come from it's most typical to revert fast, then decide what to do 00:27:52 lol 00:28:02 sorry if that sounded pretentious 00:28:04 <|amethyst> gammafunk: your commit, your call :) 00:28:10 <|amethyst> gammafunk: also 0.16 00:28:13 let me take a quick look 00:28:43 the eff hangedman 00:29:11 I'd just put in hell hogs 00:29:50 they're "corrupted holy swine" 00:29:51 <|amethyst> they're not really *blasphemous* though 00:29:57 <|amethyst> are they? 00:30:15 yeah if it's from hell 00:30:23 I mean, is hell not blashphemous? 00:30:30 <|amethyst> I thought they were corrupted regular pigs 00:30:44 sounds like blasphemy to me! 00:30:57 <|amethyst> only if pigs are holy in your religion 00:31:03 <|amethyst> so maybe for the Pink Floydites 00:31:08 <|amethyst> close enough eh 00:31:10 that was a silly use of spectres anyhow, hrm 00:31:15 I wonder if there's some alternative 00:31:27 swine shrikes 00:31:38 Error while building sqlite3 under Cygwin 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9528 by n1000 00:31:38 <|amethyst> Anyway, just changing it to hell hog seems reasonable for making trunk and 0.16 work on the servers again :) 00:31:47 yeah ok 00:31:49 I'll do that for now 00:31:59 <|amethyst> hangedman can tweak it further if he has more flavourful ideas 00:33:48 <|amethyst> I do think pushing the swine change to 0.16 in the first place was questionable, but might as well fix it there too rather than reverting 00:34:12 |amethyst: well my concern was a bit more with the new tile there 00:34:13 <|amethyst> and I guess "holy swine skeleton" is arguably a bug, even if hangedman doesn't think so :) 00:34:24 <|amethyst> aha 00:34:27 I don't think it's any kind of gameplay change, since it's completely a joke monster 00:34:41 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34:41 <|amethyst> in theory, yes 00:34:42 but if you mean from a "don't change things you don't need to" perspective 00:35:02 <|amethyst> in practice, 'unknown monster: "spectral holy swine"' isn't a very fun game :) 00:35:25 well that's what I mean, if we're takign the latter perspective of what I wrote, sure 00:35:32 <|amethyst> yeah 00:35:44 <|amethyst> maybe we should be more aggressive about rebuilding des cache 00:35:49 just testing really quick will push 00:36:27 <|amethyst> because this isn't the first time someone has committed something that breaks compilation of a map, but they didn't notice because the map was cached 00:37:50 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:38:09 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-59-g1f86560: Don't place spectral holy swine 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f86560a0eb2 00:38:30 but spectral holy swine...sheesh 00:38:41 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-44-g6e95238: Don't place spectral holy swine 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e952386a6cd 00:40:53 <|amethyst> yeah, I am not being fair because hindsight 00:41:13 <|amethyst> in practice I would have expected that to be safe for 0.16 too :) 00:41:46 always grep for monsters in vault when you change somethign like its corpose or holiness or....lots of things I guess! 00:42:00 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:11 the only other one is the holy swine pen vault in pan 00:42:27 and thankfully Sar already has that covered with a post trolling me on Tavern 00:42:38 <|amethyst> holy swine chunk name:heavenly_ham 00:44:22 !vault hangedman_blasphemy 00:44:31 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des;hb=HEAD#l2497 00:44:50 hmm 00:44:51 labs 00:45:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:48:45 -!- ssteam has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 00:49:03 gammafunk: can't you just say the demons are going to eat them alive 00:49:22 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:50:27 -!- Krakhan|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:51:07 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:56:18 Basil: do what you were born to do 00:56:44 I just got this when loading/transferring a save on cszo: 00:56:49 Bad character set: unicode 00:56:56 /crawl-master/crawl-git-a80393fcb0/data/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des:2499: unknown monster: "spectral holy swine" 00:57:12 (not sure where a spectral holy swine would be referenced, but there you go) 00:57:28 yeah, seems like the save won't actually load 00:58:14 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:58:23 <|amethyst> yeah, all the servers that built tonight need rebuilds 00:58:42 oh, have all the rebuilds been triggered that need to be? 00:58:45 <|amethyst> &versions 00:58:57 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:11 tick tock tick tock 00:59:17 <|amethyst> 0.17-57 and 0.16-43 are bad, -59 and -44 good 00:59:45 CAO: 0.17-a0-18-gc25b939, CBRO: 0.17-a0-55-gf89825e, CDO: 0.17-a0-47-g7044d6a, CKR: 0.16-a0-3723-g1e20147, CLAN: 0.17-a0-18-gc25b939, CPO: 0.17-a0-56-g795aec7, CSZO: 0.17-a0-47-g7044d6a, CXC: 0.17-a0-1-g1f4be75, LLD: 0.16-a0-3842-geca72fe 00:59:49 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:59:58 <|amethyst> oh right 01:00:06 is -47 neither bad nor good? 01:00:07 <|amethyst> that won't work because it looks for games 01:00:13 ah 01:00:30 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-59-g1f86560 (34) 01:00:47 just tried again after seeing that 01:00:53 transferred the save, now it's just stuck at loading 01:00:58 oh, it loaded 01:01:02 just took a few seconds longer than usual 01:01:16 still got "bad character set: unicode" but that's probably because my options file stuff is outdated 01:01:25 hrm, cpo doesn't have rebuild, does it 01:01:27 <|amethyst> you were the first player so it had to rebuild the des cache 01:01:29 <|amethyst> does not 01:01:33 ah 01:01:38 ooh but he has it on an agressive build schedule 01:01:38 <|amethyst> hm 01:01:43 <|amethyst> ah right 01:01:44 so it will fix itself 01:02:24 <|amethyst> let's see, according to lastlog cszo was at -58 and -43, cbro at 0.17-55 01:03:26 yeah cbro seems to be at 55 right now 01:03:36 <|amethyst> so cszo trunk was the only one announece in IRC that needed a rebuild (CPO isn't announced, and I have no idea about the rebuild schedule for the Asian servers) 01:03:42 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:48 <|amethyst> s/nece/nced/ 01:04:12 lld is still on a 0.16 trunk,it seems 01:04:17 hrm 01:04:29 so what happened, a monster was invalidated in one way or another even though vaults were referencing it? 01:04:30 |amethyst, after a make clean --no luck 01:04:31 <|amethyst> geekosaur pointed out the problem before the rebuilds happened, but so much was going on in channel :) 01:05:15 <|amethyst> n1k: bah! well, at some point I might try a windows vm with cygwin and see if that works 01:05:43 <|amethyst> err 01:05:52 <|amethyst> I mean, see if I can make it work 01:05:53 |amethyst: fortunately my tests aren't particuarly pressing, I want to look at the tournament games as data in any case 01:06:03 aye, I get your meaning 01:06:17 n1k: and msysgit will work fine! 01:06:23 gammafunk: yup 01:06:31 <|amethyst> gammafunk: well, msysgit + various upgrades :) 01:06:47 <|amethyst> I guess it's just the one 01:07:01 well yeah, I mean it's documented at least 01:07:04 the upgrades, I mean 01:07:11 I guess cygwin building doesn't get attempted too often, but it is mentioned as working in INSTALL.txt 01:07:14 <|amethyst> (though I think you can't run unbrace because perl 5.8) 01:07:22 we don't *really* know what we're doing there but 01:07:56 <|amethyst> n1k: seems kind of like you were the first one to actually try since the C++11 switchover 01:08:05 well we can take it out until |amethyst or someone gets it working I guess 01:08:08 <|amethyst> n1k: and based on the problem that is unresolved, maybe the first in the past 3 years 01:08:27 <|amethyst> since that was when we started using threaded sqlite 01:08:49 well simmarine did say it was working for him (cygwin specifically) reasonably recently 01:08:54 but he's not exactly sure when that was 01:08:56 <|amethyst> (then again, it could have to do with an sqlite upgrade from around the time of the sdl2 switch) 01:08:56 hi! "not anymore" 01:08:58 simmarine seems to have had it working within 3 years 01:09:02 oh, haha 01:09:03 <|amethyst> ah 01:09:03 yes 01:09:16 i thought i said so earlier but i guess i forgot to do that 01:09:28 oh you may have, since I only came back in for holy pigs 01:09:31 <|amethyst> I guess it was the updated upstream when we updated all our contribs with sdl2 01:09:45 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:30 I guess we have a couple days before we have to tag release? 01:10:38 oh right, I totally forgot 01:10:38 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:10:52 ??golden dragon 01:10:53 golden dragon[1/1]: A dragon that breathes bolts of fire and cold, and big clouds of poison. Less HP than a shadow dragon! Also see {gold dragon armour}. 01:11:00 !tell lasty your mulching branch probably needs to change a bunch of vaults - I thought of this earlier and then forgot 01:11:00 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 01:11:00 sorry, wrong channel 01:11:15 G-Flex: you will never be forgiven. 01:11:20 I know! 01:11:33 I guess we could do a poll on crd or something for any outstanding bugfixes 01:11:38 <|amethyst> !send /query sequell G-Flex 01:11:38 Sending G-Flex to /query sequell. 01:11:38 gammafunk: holy swine had a halo before, but it was removed to reduce halo spam 01:11:43 by marvinpa, I think? 01:11:46 ah 01:11:46 trying to find the commit 01:12:02 I mean these are not monsters that really place in the game 01:12:10 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:12:15 hm 01:12:19 hm 01:12:22 <|amethyst> you said they're in holy pan? 01:12:31 no there's one vautl that places them 01:12:37 in pan, the holy swine pen 01:12:45 yeah I think I saw it on cerebov's level once 01:12:46 let me see if they can spawn in holy pan 01:12:59 but in holy pan...well halo spam is pretty inevitable 01:13:04 also, I was wrong, I was thinking of 01:13:05 %git 55a826a4 01:13:06 07DracoOmega02 * 0.13-a0-1864-g55a826a: Strip halos from some animal holies 10(1 year, 8 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55a826a49d18 01:13:11 which specifically does not remove it from holy swine 01:13:20 also, gammafunk, your commit did not give swine a halo 01:13:23 heh, yeah 01:13:31 it did in console for me 01:13:35 well 01:13:38 I haven't rebuilt yet 01:13:39 they have a one radius halo 01:13:41 but they have a halo 01:13:45 like, before your commit 01:13:53 oh ok 01:13:57 oh that flag 01:13:57 M_GLOWS_LIGHT has no connection to halos 01:13:58 glowing 01:14:00 hahah 01:14:03 well it's fine 01:14:11 I went with "stuff angels have" 01:14:24 almost gave them rpois but I reasoned carefully along the following lines 01:14:26 "fuck it" 01:14:29 heh 01:14:51 can't believe that caused a crash though 01:15:00 I underestimated the hanged man 01:15:08 <|amethyst> !learn add gammafunk <+gammafunk> almost gave them rpois but I reasoned carefully along the following lines <+gammafunk> "fuck it" 01:15:09 gammafunk[13/13]: <+gammafunk> almost gave them rpois but I reasoned carefully along the following lines <+gammafunk> "fuck it" 01:15:31 <|amethyst> !learn edit gammafunk[13] s/\+//g 01:15:31 gammafunk[13/13]: almost gave them rpois but I reasoned carefully along the following lines "fuck it" 01:16:38 Sar is trying to make this the hotbed issue of 0.16 but it won't work 01:16:44 nice try, Sar 01:17:12 |amethyst: apparently people are having issues where 01:17:27 " I just load endlessly trying to play webtiles " 01:17:41 that's possibly 01:17:42 %git 01:17:42 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-59-g1f86560: Don't place spectral holy swine 10(45 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f86560a0eb2 01:17:46 ah 01:18:06 we rebuilt cszo 01:18:16 yeah it's cszo 01:18:31 so gammafunk 01:18:34 why are you adding features 01:18:35 in trunk 01:18:36 <|amethyst> yeah, should be fixed now 01:18:46 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-59-g1f86560 (34) 01:18:47 shhhhhh, PleasingFungus. shhhhhhhhhh 01:18:54 first lasty, then you 01:18:56 where does it end?? 01:19:04 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:19:36 orcish holy swine of beogh with upgraded smite, probably 01:20:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:23 The build passed. (master - 1f86560 #1942 : gammafunk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/53609451 01:20:23 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:22:47 well, I'm terrified. 01:23:18 oh, I guess I should email lld admin 01:23:26 do we even have a way to contact cwz admin? 01:23:37 !seen hong 01:23:37 I last saw hong at Tue Feb 24 09:05:33 2015 UTC (1w 5d 21h 18m 4s ago) quitting, saying '*.net *.split'. 01:23:46 ??cwz 01:23:47 cwz[1/1]: Crawl server (webtiles-only) located in Korea; the server admin goes by hong on irc. http://webzook.net/ 01:24:50 oh wow 01:24:51 http://webzook.net/transTarget.jsp 01:24:58 they have some kind of translation apparatus 01:27:14 "Quartz juts from the ground and forms a humanoid shape. You smell citrus." 01:27:37 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 01:27:38 haha 01:27:52 oh 01:28:02 and they have their own webtiles style hax as well 01:28:16 well it's just some links really, nevermind 01:28:23 let a thousand webtiles bloom... 01:28:45 ...actually that's the wrong country 01:28:52 "kuckingfunt", good to see that korean users experience the same fun with player user names that north american and european servers do 01:29:21 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:11 <|amethyst> citrus... 01:33:43 <|amethyst> and people complained when I wanted to name them "orbweavers" instead of "orb spiders" 01:33:46 <|amethyst> :P 01:33:51 wait, what's the pun 01:33:54 the citrus pun 01:34:04 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that's the zotdef message for making an OCS 01:34:07 also it's still fucked up that they aren't orbweavers!!! 01:34:09 ahh 01:34:21 I misread the google search summary and thought it was for silver statues 01:34:44 ...which, much like zotdef, are definitely real things that exist 01:34:55 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:35:15 <|amethyst> there are some silver statue vaults aren't there? 01:35:44 <|amethyst> oh I guess not 01:35:51 @??obsidian statue 01:35:51 obsidian statue (068) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 670 | Sp: sum.minor demon [06!sil], sum.demon [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 01:35:54 @??silver statue 01:35:54 unknown monster: "silver statue" 01:35:54 <|amethyst> since they're ob 01:35:57 <|amethyst> yeah 01:36:11 fr: silver statues that recite at you 01:36:15 (unfr) 01:36:34 <|amethyst> orange crystal light statues, that dissolve in water and make it taste better 01:36:48 more taste, less filling? 01:40:13 orange crystal meth statues 01:41:40 hm 01:42:20 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:42:37 !tell canofworms while you're going crazy on tiles, if you can create a good-looking Irradiate 'explosion' tile, you will be my hero 01:42:37 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let canofworms know. 01:42:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0/20150222232811]] 01:45:17 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:48:01 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:50:39 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:21 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-59-g1f86560 01:53:11 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:31 -!- capablanca has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 01:57:19 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:57:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:57 The build has errored. 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08:29:50 or am I confused about the backlog here 08:30:44 <|amethyst> apparently I misread the logs and thought 0.16 hadn't updated to the broken version 08:31:04 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-b1-44-g6e95238 08:31:22 <|amethyst> um 08:31:27 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.16 08:31:27 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-b1-44-g6e95238: Don't place spectral holy swine 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e952386a6cd 08:31:32 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:31:56 <|amethyst> oh, that's right 08:31:58 <|amethyst> I was misreading logs yet again 08:32:24 <|amethyst> Anyway, the torpor snail thing: the affected monsters are losing their ENCH_SLOW then regaining it 08:32:35 <|amethyst> usually within a single turn 08:32:43 -!- jujuben has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:32:45 <|amethyst> the weird thing is that they still have the torpor_slowed prop 08:33:35 <|amethyst> but the ENCH_SLOW block in monster::timeout_enchantments isn't... 08:33:36 <|amethyst> oh 08:33:45 <|amethyst> that function isn't used for this situation 08:36:02 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:42:53 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:59:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-60-g9e78d70: Don't repeatedly time out monster torpor (tedric) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e78d70e11d5 08:59:19 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-45-g17ad559: Don't repeatedly time out monster torpor (tedric) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17ad559b0d16 08:59:42 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 08:59:50 -!- KEVINNIVEK has quit [Client Quit] 09:05:31 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:16 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:15:54 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:24:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:24:31 I take umbrage at the label "holy swine person" 09:24:35 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk prefers "godly pigman" 09:24:46 |amethyst: You have 1 message. 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Use !messages to read them. 11:38:21 !messages 11:38:22 (1/2) ChrisOelmueller said (8h 21m 32s ago): you should know by now that i'm unsatiable imo (at least i certainly won't be happy until mimics are removed) 11:38:40 haha, right on topic 11:38:42 !messages 11:38:42 (1/1) ChrisOelmueller said (8h 21m 46s ago): what was that about though 11:39:06 !tell ChrisOelmueller i cherry-picked the title commit to 0.16 11:39:06 wheals: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 11:41:30 !tell ChrisOelmueller (is what it was about) 11:41:31 wheals: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 11:45:36 !send wheals It 11:45:36 Sending It to wheals. 11:48:07 * wheals ponders the intricacies of form_changed_physiology, player_is_shapechanged, and form_keeps_mutations 11:50:03 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:51:02 I really hate that mess of functions 11:51:30 tried to rewrite it a few times (inc. during formreform) but gave up 11:51:58 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:29 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:56:29 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 11:57:18 -!- Fusha has quit [] 11:58:32 -!- elliptic has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59:54 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:08:54 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:30 PF: explosion sfx? 12:15:16 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:17 -!- clouded_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16:21 also, FR: shops can spawn in pan. all shops are pizza shops. 12:16:37 s/shops can spawn in pan. / 12:19:26 where are the irradiate explosion tiles stored? 12:19:56 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 12:20:15 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:42 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:32 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-b1-46-g31da91d 12:26:59 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:11 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:30:22 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:30:32 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-61-g0c497fb (34) 12:31:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:28 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:56 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:35:14 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:42 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:34 CanOfWorms: there aren't any at present 12:38:46 give me a sec, let me find the directory where explosion tiles live 12:40:03 https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/tree/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/effect 12:40:33 possibly something like the heat_aura or quad_glow or similar tiles would be appropriate 12:41:09 hmm 12:43:19 I feel like there are generic colored 'explosion' tiles (used for fireball etc), but I can't find them... they didn't work well for irradiate anyway, but it would be good to have them for contrast 12:43:21 hm 12:43:41 bolt04? 12:43:49 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:46:01 ah, yeah, bolt0* were probably what I was thinking of 12:46:31 ...not to be confused with bolt1-9, which are crossbow bolts 12:46:33 um 12:47:03 %git :/"force bolt" 12:47:07 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-3181-g5c8c957: Fix beam name "force bolt" implying that the bolt is a beam 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c8c957062c8 12:47:38 is_beem...? 12:47:58 can irradiate melt steel beams...? 12:48:36 god, why is that all over SA lately? 12:48:39 new unrand rod: fuel rod 12:48:41 such a strange phrase to come into vogue.. 12:48:57 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:57 it's the new dickbutt? 12:48:58 PleasingFungus: ????? 12:49:03 <|amethyst> Irradiate truthers? 12:49:15 SA has been covered with 9/11 truth jokes lately 12:49:22 I don't know why 12:49:23 oh 12:49:25 meme thread 12:49:26 i see 12:49:33 it's just the new dickbutt 12:49:34 i thought he was making a beam joke 12:49:58 someone was talking about a "hellfire can't melt steel golems" clan, though idk if they actually made it 12:50:06 also, steel golems don't exist 12:50:07 basically take long diatribes and erase the ending, replacing with jet ful can't melt steel beams 12:50:11 *fuel 12:50:16 !send Darkforge PleasingFungus 12:50:17 Sending PleasingFungus to Darkforge. 12:50:25 !? 12:50:29 !!! 12:50:40 What is Nekro? Raise demons and spawn unholy weapons of war as a powerful Necromancer with an insatiable blood lust. Customize your minions to your ... 12:50:49 darkforgegames dot com 12:51:03 how many frames should irradiate have? 12:51:07 turns out googling "darkforge" turns up a lot of generic fantasy games stuff 12:51:10 <|amethyst> Clear GPL violation there 12:51:26 Nekro the VpNe 12:51:37 <|amethyst> also, "raise demons"? 12:51:42 not surprising, ADOM is pretty generic when it isn't trying to be interesting 12:51:46 ^M 12:51:46 <|amethyst> as in bottle-feed them? 12:52:18 CanOfWorms: 'as many as makes it look good'. it doesn't change over time (since it's a one-turn thing), so probably multiple frames would just be used for variety - randomly chosen 12:52:24 ok 12:53:19 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:39 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:28 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:00:46 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:47 The build passed. (stone_soup-0.16 - 31da91d #1945 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/53659620 13:00:47 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:05:19 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Excess Flood] 13:06:55 hmm 13:07:05 I need to figure out how to turn on alpha blend on this program 13:08:01 -!- Arnot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08:22 PF: http://i.imgur.com/77QZnPf.png test effect 13:22:25 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:31:42 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:37 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:34:53 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:04 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:23 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:56 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:40:13 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:22 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49:38 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:51:12 -!- Fusha has quit [] 13:51:46 CanOfWorms: oo 13:51:47 very purple 13:52:00 for some reason I don't know how to get an actual alpha blend in this program :v 13:52:08 what program 13:52:17 graphicsgale 13:52:24 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:52:34 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:11 can`t help you there, i still use jasc paint shop pro 7 13:53:31 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:40 yeah if I was using photoshop or something I would have it done in a jiffy 13:54:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:54:15 -!- ussdefiant_ is now known as ussdefiant 13:55:10 I use pixen/pixelmator, so also am unable to help 13:55:12 sorry 13:56:01 aha 13:56:11 missed the [ ] with alpha channel box in the save prompt 13:56:32 ok, that works 13:56:42 although the transparency makes it brighter than I'd like 13:56:44 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:56:47 let's see how it looks in game 14:00:54 derp 14:01:03 it's transparent but still not alphablended 14:02:09 -!- Guest49820 is now known as SwissStopwatch 14:02:49 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:05 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11:10 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:11:13 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:15:00 alright 14:15:04 it only took an hour :v 14:15:08 but it's blending properly 14:15:10 http://puu.sh/gto96/139229a00e.png 14:15:28 I'll make some proper tiles later 14:17:12 if you`d like to make some improper tiles in the meantime i could use a pizza with bacon bitz 14:18:02 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:53 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:21:07 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:21:07 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:21:07 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:21:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:26:33 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:27:21 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 14:28:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:33:55 !tell PleasingFungus I think this looks good: http://puu.sh/gtpCD/37c53a5080.png 14:33:56 CanOfWorms: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:34:26 !tell PleasingFungus some basic tiles you can use if you like it http://i.imgur.com/MLbisf5.png http://i.imgur.com/1NW4Hdv.png http://i.imgur.com/ADPELrF.png http://i.imgur.com/tLL0q8R.png 14:34:26 CanOfWorms: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:34:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:05 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:17 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:22 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Excess Flood] 14:39:07 -!- fireprfHydra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:43:44 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:13 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 14:46:24 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 14:50:08 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:16 CanOfWorms: Dang, fancy. 14:51:22 I'll test them out when I get home! 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Kaesh, XL17 FoFi, T:34040 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:03:28 !crushlog kaesh 16:03:32 gammafunk: fr!?!? 16:03:33 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:49 .crushed -log 16:03:49 136. Kaesh, XL17 FoFi, T:34040: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Kaesh/morgue-Kaesh-20150309-101420.txt 16:03:53 fr implemented 16:04:07 good turnaround time 16:04:19 better than moon base, that's for sure 16:04:29 !lg * place=moon 16:04:30 No games for * (place=moon). 16:05:35 -!- coffee` has quit [Quit: coffee`] 16:05:53 !lg * current trunk ikiller="octopode crusher" s=kaux 16:05:54 73 games for * (current trunk ikiller='octopode crusher'): 40x iron shot, 33x 16:06:07 !lg * ikiller~~crusher s=ktyp 16:06:08 150 games for * (ikiller~~crusher): 79x beam, 50x being thrown, 21x mon 16:06:11 wow 16:06:22 !lg * killer=robin s=-ckaux 16:06:23 1030 games for * (killer=robin): spear of pain, vampiric dagger, short sword of holy wrath, short sword of speed, short sword of flaming, falchion of pain, falchion of distortion, falchion of venom, flail, whip of draining, antimagic short sword, whip of venom, trident of holy wrath, falchion of protection, dagger of venom, mace of draining, wand of cold, rapier of protection, falchion of slicing,... 16:06:35 !lg * killer=robin s=-ckaux ckaux!~~of 16:06:36 643 games for * (killer=robin ckaux!~~of): Ijyb, vampiric dagger, antimagic short sword, flail, 3x vampiric spear, 4x exploding inner flame, 21x dagger, 37x whip, 39x falchion, 54x short sword, 58x mace, 60x club, 64x trident, 76x, 94x goblin, 129x spear 16:06:42 ijyb <3 <3 <3 16:07:05 !lg * ckaux=ijyb 16:07:05 1. LiLin the Magician (L3 MuWz), hit from afar by Robin (Ijyb) on D:4 on 2015-02-14 03:02:15, with 32 points after 1346 turns and 0:03:25. 16:07:09 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07:10 !lg * ckaux=ijyb -log 16:07:11 1. LiLin, XL3 MuWz, T:1346: http://webzook.net:82/morgue/LiLin/morgue-LiLin-20150214-030215.txt 16:07:32 uh 16:08:26 -!- abixa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 16:10:45 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:11:25 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:26 PleasingFungus: ....is that....what you've been waiting for? 16:11:45 Y E S 16:11:46 ....all this time? 16:11:47 the dream 16:11:49 the dream is real 16:11:55 I DEMAND FOOTV 16:11:56 !lg * ckaux=ijyb x=kmap 16:11:57 1. [killermap=uniq_robin] LiLin the Magician (L3 MuWz), hit from afar by Robin (Ijyb) on D:4 on 2015-02-14 03:02:15, with 32 points after 1346 turns and 0:03:25. 16:12:05 ah, a natural one, too 16:12:05 QUEUE THE FOOTV 16:12:09 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:12:11 !lg * ckaux=ijyb -tv 16:12:12 1. LiLin, XL3 MuWz, T:1346 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:12:28 LiLin, L3 MuWz, D:4 (r:PleasingFungus): No ttyrec server known for source 'cwz' 16:12:28 noooo 16:12:35 man 16:12:36 of all the servers... 16:12:49 !lg * ckaux=ijyb -log 16:12:49 1. LiLin, XL3 MuWz, T:1346: http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/LiLin/morgue-LiLin-20150214-030215.txt 16:12:54 !gamesby LiLin 16:12:55 LiLin has played 3893 games, between 2013-07-15 08:46:40 and 2015-03-09 05:52:53, won 1 (0.0%), high score 14490898, total score 44914970, total turns 13516673, play-time/day 1:14:24, total time 31d+3:51:29. 16:12:59 holy crap 16:13:02 ah, i thought that name was familiar 16:13:06 geeze 16:13:17 0.0% even with a win 16:13:33 !lg LiLin won 16:13:33 Bloax: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:13:33 1. LiLin the Archmage (L27 DEWz of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-02-27 06:49:39, with 14490898 points after 111464 turns and 13:45:33. 16:13:38 !messages 16:13:38 (1/1) Brannock_ said (4h 15m 2s ago): I'm the champion 16:13:45 k 16:13:55 PleasingFungus: 1 dmg 16:13:57 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:13:57 huge dmg 16:14:10 beautiful... 16:14:12 !lg * chei won s=name 16:14:13 1039 games for * (chei won): 27x Brannock, 26x Cheibrodos, 24x Roarke, 23x Tasonir, 17x Mnemonic, 17x HilariousDeathArtist, 15x Bart, 15x Thrkk, 11x 78291, 10x keymashgrqeeg, 10x crate, 10x hyperbolic, 9x Bloax, 9x CheiMu, 9x radinms, 9x jeanjacques, 9x LightMnemonic, 9x doctordoom, 8x Hurricos, 8x MrPlanck, 7x zkyp, 7x kazak, 7x InternetKraken, 7x perunasaurus, 7x araganzar, 6x nago, 6x bmfx, 6x ... 16:14:15 Bloax: ^ 16:14:21 that's rather a lot of g there 16:14:28 wow,dethroned cheibrodos 16:14:30 i'm really high up there for some reason 16:14:36 good, I'll be happy to tell him that 16:14:43 -!- jacquesderrida has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:14:48 revenge for ruining that elf with his damn banish wizard 16:14:52 for some reason... 16:15:15 wouldn't even call that really high up there 16:15:23 I mean crate has more chei wins 16:15:28 crate probably hates chei 16:15:43 tasonir is no surprise ofc 16:15:47 !lg crate won 16:15:47 157. crate the Grand Master (L27 HuTm of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2014-12-20 07:58:49, with 2116673 points after 87551 turns and 6:19:06. 16:15:51 !lg . won 16:15:51 15. BLOAX the Slayer (L24 MiFi of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-01-25 17:49:38, with 4555650 points after 26796 turns and 3:00:56. 16:15:55 it's all about proportions 16:16:28 !lg . god!= / god=sif 16:16:29 715/1051 games for gammafunk (god!=): N=715/1051 (68.03%) 16:16:31 !lg * won s=name / chei ?:N>9 o=% 16:16:31 Broken query near '=%' 16:16:32 nice 16:16:39 !lg * won s=name / chei o=% ?:N>9 16:16:39 205/1657 games for * (won): 17/19x Mnemonic [89.47%], 27/51x Brannock [52.94%], 23/50x Tasonir [46.00%], 26/82x Cheibrodos [31.71%], 24/90x Roarke [26.67%], 15/74x Thrkk [20.27%], 15/155x Bart [9.68%], 17/184x HilariousDeathArtist [9.24%], 10/126x keymashgrqeeg [7.94%], 10/157x crate [6.37%], 10/205x hyperbolic [4.88%], 11/464x 78291 [2.37%] 16:17:02 !lg * won s=name / chei o=% ?:den.N>9 16:17:03 710/18505 games for * (won): 9/10x Bloax [90.00%], 17/19x Mnemonic [89.47%], 27/51x Brannock [52.94%], 9/18x DoctorDoom [50.00%], 5/10x emiel [50.00%], 23/50x Tasonir [46.00%], 5/11x haldagan [45.45%], 8/20x Hurricos [40.00%], 26/82x Cheibrodos [31.71%], 9/33x radinms [27.27%], 3/11x SirSamVimes [27.27%], 24/90x Roarke [26.67%], 7/30x kazak [23.33%], 3/14x Arrhythmia [21.43%], 15/74x Thrkk [20.27%... 16:17:49 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18:26 27.27%, good one sirsamvimes 16:18:43 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20:04 I think Brannock is the guy who is happy to educate SA about the virtues of Cheibriados :) 16:20:40 i wonder where he caught the chei flu 16:21:24 from SA, i suspect :P 16:21:44 your suspicion is incorrect 16:22:30 anyway, seems like a Beogh, a god with a smallish, but dedicated followership 16:22:49 (it was me, the bringer of darkness!!!!!!) 16:23:24 !lg * title~~bringer 16:23:25 766. Gerad the Bringer of Law (L23 FoFi of Zin), slain by a bone dragon on Abyss:1 on 2015-03-08 18:06:18, with 363365 points after 81010 turns and 9:12:42. 16:23:30 rip 16:23:54 PleasingFungus: 4.1 added fully interruputible eating, it must be possible 16:24:07 !send PleasingFungus a partly eaten food ration 16:24:07 Sending a partly eaten food ration to PleasingFungus. 16:24:16 !send wheals a partly eaten plate mail 16:24:16 Sending a partly eaten plate mail to wheals. 16:24:36 !send Grunt a partly eaten amulet of unchanging 16:24:36 !send Grunt a partly eaten rotting wraith corpse 16:24:37 Sending a partly eaten amulet of unchanging to Grunt. 16:24:37 Sending a partly eaten rotting wraith corpse to Grunt. 16:24:43 so many sends... 16:24:52 This wraith corpse tastes terrible! You choke over your food.--more-- 16:24:55 !send PleasingFungus a ##crawl-dev with fewer sends 16:24:55 Sending a ##crawl-dev with fewer sends to PleasingFungus. 16:25:01 !send wheals the unthinkable 16:25:01 Sending the unthinkable to wheals. 16:25:16 !send Grunt the Unspeakable 16:25:16 Sending the Unspeakable to Grunt. 16:25:22 fwiw, I agree with minmay's comments on the ancient devwiki article that xx linked - if interrupted eating gives (even partial) nutrition, there's no point to multi-turn food 16:25:26 -!- Guest11715 is now known as BigGuy 16:25:55 -!- BigGuy is now known as BiGuy 16:26:09 since there's no longer any kind of tradeoff involved 16:27:40 I was going to make a comment in the thread to that effect, and then I didn't 16:27:41 !lg ew trck xl=1 place=d:2 killer=gnoll ckaux=club -tv 16:27:42 1. ew, XL1 TrCK, T:140 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:27:57 !lg ew trck xl=1 place=d:2 killer=gnoll ckaux=club -tv 16:27:58 1. ew, XL1 TrCK, T:140 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:28:51 !lg ew trck xl=1 place=d:2 killer=gnoll ckaux=club -tv:x0.1 16:28:51 1. ew, XL1 TrCK, T:140 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:28:59 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 16:31:59 -!- Joestar has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:32:50 -!- puddlestomp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:36:19 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:54 sorry for spamming 16:36:58 i guess ew is a bot 16:38:10 yes, it's T*S_2012v's bot IIRC 16:40:11 a bot? ewwww 16:40:16 ??s 16:40:16 I don't have a page labeled s in my learndb. Did you mean: ', 6, as, d, ds, hs, q, sa, sc, se, sh, sk, sp, ss, su, t, u, v, vs, ©, ☡, 🌽, ðŸ•, ðŸŒ. 16:40:19 RIP 16:40:46 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:40:50 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: YourBNC - (https://yourbnc.co.uk)] 16:44:49 -!- Mumbai has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:45:14 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:08 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:07 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:44 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:01 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:00:24 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 17:00:50 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:16 !send Grunt \n 17:02:16 Sending \n to Grunt. 17:02:21 17:07:55 -!- rwork has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:12:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:13:16 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:45 -!- mineral has quit [Quit: bye.] 17:14:13 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:05 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 17:21:07 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:21:12 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:04 if nobody has complaints, I'll get the website launched in the next few days with npkin? 17:24:47 the greatest complaint by now is probably that there is no website 17:25:01 so fixing that would be great 17:27:02 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:51 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:27 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:32:35 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:33:17 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:34:48 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:26 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:36 ??☡ 17:36:36 chrisclouds[1/1]: ☡ 17:37:27 dpeg: are you around? I have been thinking about Gozag lately and wanted to bounce some ideas off you 17:37:39 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:36 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:38:44 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:39:44 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:47:15 -!- ark___ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49:02 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:49:22 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:49:25 cs☡o 17:49:52 n1k: yes 17:52:29 n1k: aboud midnight here, will leave before long -- all of the following will work: email (dploog@math.fu-berlin.de), c-r-d mail, !tell over here. 17:55:39 -!- siepu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:45 -!- Calisca3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:01:56 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:59 dpeg: ah okay 18:03:19 I'll just give a quick summary and then try to compose my thoughts 18:04:10 dpeg: mostly thinking about bribe branch. I noticed that it's limited to a small subset of branches. It looks to be relatively weak in Zot (just from the code, I haven't tested) and the particular monsters it works on seem a bit unintuitive, e.g., it works (very well) on demons, but doesn't work on undead at all. I was curious if you had any feelings about the ability's power leve, and if it should be extended to, say, working in tomb, as well 18:04:30 -!- link_1081 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:06:52 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:07:18 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:08:00 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:01 -!- Amilir has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:11:04 n1k: oh, I am very interested in Bribe feedback! 18:11:38 And I can tell you about the motivation. However, I think looking at numbers can only do so much... it's certainly trumped by playtesting :) 18:11:57 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:07 could make it purely limited by monster intelligence, but at that point we'd probably have to display monster intelligence (should we do that anyway?) 18:13:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:00 The idea was that only sentinent monsters can be bribed. This is not strictly ncessary, and it's a flavour/realism argument. OTOH, I think it makes the theme really better: IRL, I can really on bribing my neighbours to start killing, but I cannot do that with animals. 18:13:22 PleasingFungus: yes, monster intelligence would work. The current system is pretty simple (which is an advantage on its own). 18:13:25 dpeg, yeah I can understand that desire--though I think liches might qualify 18:13:36 n1k: yes, certainly -- would be cool and help in Zot! 18:13:42 hm 18:13:48 @??death cob 18:13:48 death cob (08%) | Spd: 25 | HD: 10 | HP: 51-77 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1012 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 18:13:53 @??bone dragon 18:13:54 bone dragon (15D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 157-202 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 30, 2009(claw), 2007(trample) | 07undead, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3696 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 18:13:58 PleasingFungus: the solution is a "covetous" flag :) 18:14:15 nooo 18:14:16 dpeg: yeah I definitely think playtesting is worthwhile in addition to looking at some numbers. Unfortunately I haven't found many players who have bribed the hells 18:14:22 which seems, in theory, very strong 18:14:39 n1k: I have successfully bribed (i.e. got a noticeable power boost) Vaults, Elf, Gehenna. 18:15:15 n1k: the chances per monster and the costs are ours to tweak, but turning some 1 demons around has some impact, yes. 18:15:50 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:01 the original proposal also included that e.g. bribing Vaults would affect humans everywhere... 18:17:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:09 dpeg: basically what I plan to do is to use objstat + per-monster bribe probabilities to find the relative effect in each branch 18:18:38 as well as consider extending it to some undead (the mummies in tomb are guarding a huge chache of gold, after all :P) 18:19:17 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:29 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:20:05 PleasingFungus: what about bone dragon makes you say noooooo 18:20:15 oh, nm 18:20:28 "covetous" is a flag from Nethack, for monsters that want to get the amuet 18:22:19 another flag might be better, code-wise, than the list of ~100 bribable monsters in godabil.cc 18:22:40 even better is tying it to intelligence 18:22:57 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:17 someone was telling me that they bribed zot but nothing happened 18:23:17 not sure if I believe them though 18:23:43 gozot 18:24:14 it only affects draconians now so it only directly affects relatively easy zot monsters 18:25:50 I forget what are the conditions for which enemies can become friendly 18:25:53 @??curse_toe 18:25:53 curse toe (08z) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 14 | HP: 100 | AC/EV: 25/1 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 02cold, 10elec++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 4769 | Sp: s.torment [06!sil], sum.mushrooms [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: high. 18:26:27 gammafunk: yes, it does draconians 18:26:46 n1k: the current list is not so bad, because all these monsters come from few genuses 18:26:55 gammafunk: it's literally just a list in godabil.cc, not based on an explicit property other than that 18:27:09 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:27:13 well, some can be neutral, wasn't sure if there were seperate classes 18:27:22 ah, I'm not sure either 18:27:23 but maybe it's just become neutral or friendly 18:28:37 dpeg: oh, okay--that's true 18:30:11 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:28 @??ancient_lich 18:30:29 ancient lich (16L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 86-123 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 7969 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 18:30:29 it would be nice to hit a sweet spot, perhaps by increasing the cost for later branches vs earlier, without making it a total no-brainer to bribe everything 18:32:08 just neutral or friendly 18:32:24 the important idea is that chances are bottom up: money is rather spent on top tier monsters 18:32:43 n1k: bribing prices will need tweaking with experience, I agree 18:33:11 dpeg: it's just a flat 3000 gold now, right? 18:34:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:35:21 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:19 n1k: yes, but as I said, it is a parameter how expensive a single bribe attempt (per monster, not per branch) is. 18:38:31 ah thanks, I didn't understand that 18:39:23 moin 18:41:05 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:19 -!- chequers has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:41:20 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:33 -!- chequers has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:45 -!- chequers_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:42:25 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:18 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:34 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:46:34 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:49:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:50:13 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:46 -!- muravey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:25 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:54 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:57:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:59:07 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:44 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:32 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05:17 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:06:16 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:24 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:08:39 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0/20150222232811]] 19:09:46 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:31 man, enchanters are even easier now that you can see hex chance of success 19:11:41 what about AM? 19:11:44 why is that 19:12:07 simmarine: you can tell with high precision what's a good risk 19:12:34 couldnt you calc that though if you really wanted to 19:12:42 i thought that was kinda why it's in crawl now 19:12:48 sure, but I didn't, because its awful 19:12:51 yes, but will you actually take the time to do it for every threat 19:13:01 maybe if i really wanted to do it i would 19:13:13 I'm not actually complaining abou hex targeting 19:13:14 and it was probably ""correct play"""" to do it 19:13:20 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:26 I'm just noticing how absurdly easy it is 19:13:29 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:36 imagine if you still got invis 19:13:40 it's [ G O O D ] 19:13:42 I do :p 19:13:47 -!- nomadicburrito has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:13:55 i dont think ive played en since the book change 19:14:05 ??book of enchatments 19:14:06 book of enchatments ~ book of enchantments[1/1]: Cause Fear, Silence, Tukima's Dance, Deflect Missiles, Haste, Discord 19:14:07 I might play a spen for the tourney 19:14:09 for old time's sake 19:14:16 that's the wrong book 19:14:18 ??maledictions 19:14:18 book of maledictions[1/1]: Corona, Sure Blade, Ensorcelled Hibernation, Confuse, Enslavement, Dazzling Spray. 19:14:35 !learn edit book_of_maledictions s/$.// 19:14:35 No change: regex `$.` does not match `Corona, Sure Blade, Ensorcelled Hibernation, Confuse, Enslavement, Dazzling Spray.` 19:14:44 oh dazzling spray--another uber spell 19:14:57 !learn edit book_of_maledictions s/.$// 19:14:58 book of maledictions[1/1]: Corona, Sure Blade, Ensorcelled Hibernation, Confuse, Enslavement, Dazzling Spray 19:15:07 &dump lasty 19:15:08 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Lasty/Lasty.txt 19:15:33 +2 dagger of elec 19:15:33 as of entering first rune branch, 709 sleep stabs 19:15:35 jeez 19:15:53 i think my last game was the first time i really turned an ee into a stabber (though yet again ash kinda helps there) 19:16:13 out of 1152 creatures killed 19:16:24 oh jeez that short sword 19:16:30 heh yeah 19:17:54 good hand xbow 19:18:39 also yeah 19:19:28 good think Ash really likes weapon switching 19:20:58 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 19:22:56 you got another think coming 19:25:24 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:30:09 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:45 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:27 elliptic (L24 DrAr) (Vaults:5) 19:31:39 !crashlog . 19:31:40 25. elliptic, XL24 DrAr, T:64217 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/elliptic/crash-elliptic-20150310-003116.txt 19:32:08 can't allocate 1684368227 bytes. 19:32:08 check_unrand_effects? I wasn't using one... 19:32:16 that is a lot of bytes 19:32:26 elliptic: A deep elf conjurer comes into view. It is wielding the +8 lance "Wyrmbane" {slay drac, +Rage rPois rF+ AC+5}. 19:32:49 (and you're using plarms, you lucky bastard) 19:32:55 and I'm a drac 19:33:09 presumably the crash is: monster with wyrmbane tries to hit a drac 19:33:12 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33:21 so i guess i didn't actually fix that when i did 19:33:25 %git :/yrmbane 19:33:27 07ChrisOelmueller02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.16-a0-3785-g31b0019: Remove artefact weapon names from HUD and % (randarts, some unrands) 10(3 months ago, 3 files, 54+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=31b0019f8490 19:33:38 !gitgrep 2 yrmbane 19:33:38 %git HEAD^{/yrmbane}^^{/yrmbane} 19:33:39 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1760-ga4838dc: Inscribe Wyrmbane with "slay drac." 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4838dc9d101 19:33:43 !gitgrep 3 yrmbane 19:33:44 %git HEAD^{/yrmbane}^^{/yrmbane}^^{/yrmbane} 19:33:44 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1641-ged8ba04: Fix Wyrmbane not being enchanted on kills 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 19+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed8ba04e1629 19:33:53 or maybe i never actually made that fix...??? 19:34:56 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:56 yeah i saw that crash before and wrote a fix, but i think i was away from my dev machine so i couldn't actually fix it 19:35:04 and nobody was around to fix it 19:35:12 wheals: the crash made a scroll of acq give me boots of rN+ instead of a hat of spirit shield, I demand a refund 19:36:03 i wonder what is up with that GDB crash though 19:36:19 and a potion of benemut gave me robust 1 instead of dex+2 this time 19:36:35 poor, poor you 19:36:39 yes 19:36:52 maybe I will save now just in case I run into the wyrmbane elf again 19:38:52 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:40:03 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43:42 !lg * ktyp=wizmode 19:43:43 1. gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu), entered wizard mode on D:1 (saegor_arrival_simple_b) on 2015-03-08 22:20:40, with 0 points after 3 turns and 0:00:18. 19:43:52 !log * ckaux=ijyb 19:43:53 1. LiLin, XL3 MuWz, T:1346: http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/LiLin/morgue-LiLin-20150214-030215.txt 19:43:59 greensnark: thanks 19:44:08 <|amethyst> hm 19:44:28 if a felid in dragon form gets killed with wyrmbane, does the enchantment go up 19:44:47 -!- BiGuy has quit [] 19:45:15 <|amethyst> that check_unrand_effects thing doesn't seem related to my recent spectral weapon change, which did change some nearby code. 19:45:40 you mean GDB choking on it? 19:45:50 <|amethyst> the crash happening in the first place 19:45:56 <|amethyst> gdb didn't choke when I tried again 19:46:20 the crash is int hd = min(defender->as_monster()->get_experience_level(), 18); called when defender is a player 19:46:33 <|amethyst> yeah 19:46:39 (maybe player->as_monster() should ASSERT?) 19:46:53 or die rather 19:47:07 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:47:10 <|amethyst> lots of stuff relies on it returning null 19:47:16 i guess that would require it to be virtual 19:47:16 oh right 19:47:17 duh 19:47:32 never mind me :) 19:50:13 <|amethyst> %git ed8ba04 19:50:14 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1641-ged8ba04: Fix Wyrmbane not being enchanted on kills 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 19+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed8ba04e1629 19:51:03 hmm 19:53:01 <|amethyst> though 19:53:11 <|amethyst> now that works on players too 19:53:18 <|amethyst> so the ->as_monster() isn't necessary 19:54:53 -!- puddlestomp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:55:08 see logs for dec 24 19:55:53 <|amethyst> ? 19:56:01 <|amethyst> what am I looking for? 19:56:41 "That which hath been is that which shall be, and that which hath been done is that which shall be done" 19:56:43 <|amethyst> oh 19:56:47 (this crashed before :P) 19:57:18 <|amethyst> oh dec 26 here 19:57:26 oops 19:57:40 sorry 19:57:57 i guess saying "i noticed this before" isn't really helping out here anyway... 19:59:07 what's the sequell redirect syntax again 19:59:09 minmay: looks like no 19:59:14 .!learn set mut -> {mutation} 19:59:30 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:31 player::alive() is true even if player::dead is true 19:59:36 found it 20:01:00 welcome to crawl, where you can be undead, alive, and dead all at the same time 20:01:14 to be, or not to be 20:01:31 2b^!2b? 20:01:57 -!- Calisca2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:02:59 (insert schrödinger's felid joke) 20:03:01 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 20:03:46 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 20:04:57 2b xor not 2b ternary 20:05:00 <|amethyst> hm 20:05:09 <|amethyst> now I wonder if I should implement the player thing 20:05:20 <|amethyst> not for 0.16 with the fix of course 20:05:21 <|amethyst> w 20:05:44 |amethyst: but who will want to play 0.16 when they know what they can get in trunk 20:09:40 our future steam fans? 20:11:27 I'm sure our fan will be very nice 20:11:29 yeah, those suckers will have no choice 20:11:29 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:13:05 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:16 -!- coffee` has quit [Quit: coffee`] 20:13:31 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:14:19 PF: did you get a chance to try out the irradiate tiles? 20:14:37 sadly no 20:14:39 maybe ask me tomorrow 20:14:45 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-62-g7eae94e: Irradiate tiles animation (CanOfWorms) 10(55 seconds ago, 7 files, 11+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7eae94e303a3 20:14:46 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-47-g99f3379: Irradiate tiles animation (CanOfWorms) 10(56 seconds ago, 7 files, 11+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99f3379b08c1 20:14:47 been very busy today 20:16:20 if it was tourney time I'd play a Tm just to test this 20:16:35 the alpha makes it look very different in different areas 20:16:47 much brighter in e.g. shoals than in d/tomb 20:17:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-63-ge12f157: Don't crash when Wyrmbaning a dragonform player (wheals) 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e12f1571bae5 20:17:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-64-gb4d65d2: Charge Wyrmbane with dragonform player felid deaths (minmay) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4d65d28153b 20:17:27 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-48-g01401a8: Don't crash when Wyrmbaning a dragonform player (wheals) 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=01401a896c6e 20:17:57 arguably should have credited elliptic :) 20:18:14 sometimes it seems like the only suggestions of minmay's that we implement are the jokes 20:18:15 <|amethyst> you said how to fix it back in December 20:18:33 ah, the other kind of credit, naturally 20:19:21 pf: is that a good thing or a bad thing? 20:19:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:19:45 I approve of implementing jokes, if they're funny 20:20:19 !learn add rare_messages The lance glows as it skewers you. 20:20:19 rare messages[21/21]: The lance glows as it skewers you. 20:20:20 oh, I was talking about the alpha effect 20:20:51 oh 20:21:19 not really sure. the lighter 'version' looks more like an explosion, the darker ones look more like noxious clouds 20:21:34 I think the former might be better but I'm undecided. 20:22:21 !learn add felid_challenge enchant Wyrmbane to +18 on a felid. 20:22:21 felid challenge[1/1]: enchant Wyrmbane to +18 on a felid. 20:22:38 that's... hm 20:22:54 http://i.imgur.com/HXSGZmr.png 20:22:56 http://i.imgur.com/RFoDGWM.png 20:22:56 just need to not kill whoever holds it, since monsters won't pick items up now 20:22:57 <|amethyst> can you get that many extra lives? 20:22:58 http://i.imgur.com/unrEXAN.png 20:22:59 http://i.imgur.com/dqP9XXK.png 20:23:02 <|amethyst> oh 20:23:04 here's some non-alpha blended tiles if you want to try those out 20:23:06 <|amethyst> ally with wyrmbane 20:23:07 |amethyst: i think they're infinite? 20:23:16 <|amethyst> wheals: aha, they keep going up past 27 now? 20:23:21 I guess you could spam enslave 20:23:24 i feel like kilobyte wanted them to be (for some reason) 20:23:27 <|amethyst> I've never gotten a felid that high 20:23:32 <|amethyst> !hs . felid 20:23:34 190. Neil the Sorcerer (L22 FeTm of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by an orb of fire (fireball) on Zot:3 on 2011-08-27 14:25:22, with 318382 points after 157916 turns and 18:28:15. 20:23:39 good way to go 20:23:43 dang, 2011 20:23:46 <|amethyst> nearly had a tournament win 20:23:52 <|amethyst> !lg . win 2 20:23:53 2. Neil the Faith Healer (L27 HOHe of Elyvilon), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-10-04 20:54:19, with 1318561 points after 99008 turns and 8:11:47. 20:23:57 <|amethyst> !lg . win 1 20:23:58 1/2. Neil the Sorcerer (L27 SpSt of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-08-31 02:58:26, with 1298440 points after 120543 turns and 10:19:50. 20:23:59 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: sleep] 20:24:13 oh apparently 20:24:15 ??extra lives[2 20:24:16 extra lives[2/2]: You cannot have more than 9 lives total in a game (meaning 8 extra lives). 20:24:41 ??wyrmbane 20:24:42 wyrmbane[1/2]: (polearms; +4 acc / 8 dam / 1.1 base delay / 0.5 min delay) A scale-covered lance +8 Wyrmbane {slay drac, +Rage rPois rF+ AC+5}. Gains +1 enchantment every time it lands the finishing blow against a {slay drac} affected monster (up to the lower of +18 or the dragon's HD). 20:24:49 only +1, so... hm 20:24:54 <|amethyst> so that will take it from +8 to +16 20:24:57 yeah, definitely need some enslave action in ther 20:24:59 e 20:25:02 ...or 20:25:05 dragon call??? 20:25:06 0.14+: Gives a status which temporarily summons dragons all around you, attacking random hostiles. Each dragon costs 2 or 3 MP, and the rate of summoning slows when you have a lot of dragons active. Has a 150-250 aut cooldown. 20:25:17 <|amethyst> summons don't charge it 20:25:20 oh right 20:25:22 checks for MF_NO_REWARD 20:25:37 <|amethyst> and for is_summoned 20:26:11 it's a tough challenge 20:26:22 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:26:47 well, the Lava Snake Corpse Challenge went down way easier than I expected 20:26:51 so clearly I'm no judge 20:27:02 rip 20:27:13 worship bcadren's b god for felids to give it to one of your allies 20:27:33 catswarm...? 20:27:54 CanOfWorms: http://i.imgur.com/3aQI9dI.png http://i.imgur.com/nmcbICA.png (sorry I'm too lazy to crop) 20:28:08 I guess other people can also opine 20:28:22 non alpha looks good 20:28:23 both look good 20:28:46 it's not a cloud so 100% opacity is fine 20:29:03 (fr change some clouds to that) 20:31:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-65-gc96cd5b: De-opacify Irradiate (CanOfWorms) 10(53 seconds ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c96cd5b0c73a 20:32:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-49-gc2c1aff: De-opacify Irradiate (CanOfWorms) 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2c1affa4b2d 20:35:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:21 CanOfWorms: thank you very much, by the way; I've had that on my to-do for months :) 20:35:29 hm 20:35:44 what's our status on release readiness? 20:35:54 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:07 choko 20:36:18 imo sultana <_< 20:36:37 DANG 20:36:40 sick burn there 20:37:08 someday I will design and implement the queen of all fedhasites, The Sultana. 20:37:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:37:18 I'm calling this now: I get 30 points during the tournament whenever someone gets killed by a caustic shrike. 20:37:21 well, I guess not the implementation part. I'm retired, after all. 20:37:27 Lasty: dev points...!? 20:37:32 every type of point 20:37:35 I get one point for every cuss caused by a mimic 20:37:38 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:50 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:54 one seems like too few 20:38:07 i am optimistic about cussing. 20:38:22 In general, but also in context. 20:38:24 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:38:55 how many points do I get for vault deaths 20:39:08 re: the website. the 0.16 tournament announcement should probably be under news and not dev blog 20:39:11 PleasingFungus: mimics are sort of my fault, last I checked 20:39:17 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=115215#p115215 20:39:27 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:39:27 in the olde times, mimics could only show up as randartes 20:39:46 also, i should get at least 25% of the credit for every death in a game where lantern of shadows generated, since the death couldnt have happened without lantern of shadows nerf 20:39:53 minmay: You get a hundredth of a point every time someone enters a vault you regret making. 20:39:56 You will outscore us all. 20:40:03 yes 20:40:28 bh: that's wrong, they could show up as all kinds of "good items" - shiny dragon hide was common 20:40:44 ontoclasm: that's a remarkable death 20:40:51 minmay: and then I added rune mimics 20:40:55 which broke all sorts of things 20:41:01 PleasingFungus: my crowning achievement 20:41:13 Even Tile Devs Can Kill 20:41:28 I wonder if ed's ever killed someone 20:41:42 specifically if he's ever killed any players, in the game 20:41:46 i don't think it killed anyone but i did piss people off when i changed jewellery colors 20:41:53 ? 20:41:53 -!- mrwooster has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:41:57 has anyone ever died in a way attributable to the small quadruped skeleton tile 20:42:05 or duvessa's hair colour 20:42:11 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:42:51 a die job 20:43:09 ebering: fixed, thanks! 20:43:32 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:37 minmay: skeleton tile sounds vaguely plausible. "I thought it was a alligator snapping turtle skeleton mimic!" 20:44:10 ontoclasm: make a puns fakelang :) 20:44:16 !lg * tiles 20:44:32 2026679. Faldahar the Formicid Blade (L25 FoFi of Okawaru), mangled by a stone giant on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2015-03-10 01:43:44, with 427240 points after 62250 turns and 5:01:21. 20:44:42 !lg * tiles rip 20:44:45 1777718. Faldahar the Formicid Blade (L25 FoFi of Okawaru), mangled by a stone giant on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2015-03-10 01:43:44, with 427240 points after 62250 turns and 5:01:21. 20:44:55 PleasingFungus: 1777718 is a lot of kills 20:45:14 -!- mrwooster has quit [Client Quit] 20:45:17 what does rip search for 20:45:20 just !boring? 20:45:24 !kw rip 20:45:25 Keyword: rip => !boring !won 20:45:29 !kw boring 20:45:29 Keyword: boring => quitting|leaving 20:45:38 !lg * dang rip 20:45:39 66. TheAlgebraist the Imperceptible (L27 VSEn of Ashenzari), mangled by the royal jelly on Slime:6 (slime_pit) on 2015-02-25 03:06:44, with 607718 points after 99661 turns and 10:53:46. 20:46:19 !kw dang 20:46:20 Keyword: dang => (( ac!=0 || ev!=0 )) ac<=10 ev<=10 xl=27 20:46:38 PleasingFungus: anyway, all of those people would either have played offline which wouldn't have counted, or played console and not been so bad 20:46:44 !lg * xl=27 ac=0 ev=0 20:46:45 14092. MrPlanck the Slayer (L27 SEHu of The Shining One), starved to death on Vaults:1 on 2014-12-04 20:08:26, with 1174587 points after 117609 turns and 12:00:38. 20:46:51 !kw dang god=dithmenos 20:46:51 Defined keyword: dang => god=dithmenos 20:47:13 dangsomething 20:47:46 dangsomehing 20:48:39 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49:08 i should draw a giant mite 20:49:20 their tile is silly 20:49:21 grunt was making noises about removing those 20:49:26 rip 20:49:28 what kind of noises? 20:49:30 before he was brutally slain by the chain gang boss 20:49:36 wheals: grunts 20:50:59 |amethyst: searching the crawl-dev logs for "giant mite" only returns results literally matching '"giant mite"', that is, with the enclosing quotes. this is very confusing 20:51:30 think of it as a grep 20:51:34 not a google search 20:51:46 though maybe google search would be faster (what wouldn't) 20:52:20 if I run "grep "giant mite" *.cc", I do not find results including the quotes! 20:52:25 or any results at all, technically 20:53:49 that's just an implementation detail :P 20:53:55 pfft 20:53:55 <|amethyst> that's the shell 20:54:04 |amethyst: I know 20:54:12 right, not the program itself 20:54:14 <_miek> find . -name \* | xargs grep "giant mite" 20:54:20 anyway, the relevant log was 2014/12/20, if anyone's curious 20:54:28 <|amethyst> the crawl-dev search doesn't go through the shell, it just treats what you provide as a regular expression or a fixed string to match 20:54:51 giant mite is pretty much "adder but harmless" 20:54:53 <|amethyst> if someone wants to copy the logs and index them with lucene or whatever, feel free :) 20:54:56 gr*nt suggests removing giant mites, people talk about it for a little while, and then nothing happens 20:55:14 it is the way of these things 20:55:18 TBH i kinda remembered someone suggesting removing it but assumed it was reaverb 20:55:22 heh 20:55:31 i thought it was me 20:55:55 I think at the time I was vaguely opposed to removing them but - oh, right, hangedman's cute tmut miscast that "enlargens nearby floor mites" 20:56:07 oh 20:56:16 so that's why i ended up with so many friendly giant mites in my last plutonium sword game 20:56:17 I'd remove giant mites, but we have a feature freeze 20:56:28 don't tell dpeg that it copies nethack 20:56:38 imo do tell him that 20:56:52 jellies copy nethack too 20:57:30 what about nymphs 20:57:34 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:57:40 Our Nymphs Are DIfferent (?) 20:58:02 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:18 Maurice is just a very confused nymph, amirite 20:59:12 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:51 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:01:00 dungeons copy nethack 21:01:26 actually, I think you'll find they copy _Rogue_. 21:01:56 -!- SpaceCob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:02:35 Actually, they copy the bestselling roleplaying game Advanced Nethacks & Dragons 21:03:32 actually, it's about ethics in video game journalism 21:03:39 In which Asmodeus demands a bribe of 5 gp 21:03:52 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:03:55 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:18 One of these days, I'm gonna make a game that everyone else rips off. 21:04:22 It's gonna blow your minds. 21:04:25 <|amethyst> GP were invented in Michigan---they originally stood for "Grosse Pointe" 21:05:02 PleasingFungus: who are you, peter molyneux? 21:05:05 -!- muravey_ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 21:05:13 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:05:28 peter molydeux, actually 21:05:39 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:38 peter molydeux reminds me a lot of twelwe 21:06:59 heh, i see you got my !tell 21:07:19 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:07:34 I forget what it was 21:07:58 glorpstr 21:08:01 ahh 21:08:02 yes 21:08:12 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:09:11 * wheals is greatly amused that someone named "hangedman" follows the crawlcode twitter 21:09:39 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Hello, 911? Yeah, it's caught in the window this time.] 21:10:37 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:11:08 what is "glorpstr", anyway 21:11:13 -!- LordAnon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:11:40 a buffer variable name 21:11:45 seems perfectly obvious to me!! 21:12:45 yeah, but where, it doesn't show up if i grep the source at s-z.org 21:13:22 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13:33 i found it in a very old version 21:13:39 try the pickaxe 21:14:00 ah 21:14:22 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:16:21 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:16:38 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:28 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:18:58 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:20 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:20:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:21:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:24:32 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:54 -!- johnf_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:32 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:38 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:28:06 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:28:10 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:29:38 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:29:50 ??extra lives[2] 21:29:51 extra lives[2/2]: You cannot have more than 9 lives total in a game (meaning 8 extra lives). 21:29:56 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:29:57 !learn del extra_lives[2] 21:29:58 Deleted extra lives[2/2]: You cannot have more than 9 lives total in a game (meaning 8 extra lives). 21:30:07 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:30:17 (this is false afaik and afask (as far as sequell knows)) 21:30:36 unless it was a very recent change 21:30:52 !lm * current death s=gid 21:30:54 6462 milestones for * (current death): 11x Cheetah:cao:20140719200719S, 10x Sar:cxc:20150126100058S, 9x haldagan:clan:20140811110934S, 9x ELD:ckr:20141109110421S, 9x asd1213:ckr:20141014200329S, 8x Nemchoi:cszo:20150122044839S, 8x Yermak:clan:20150021051310S, 8x rkdn42:cao:20140702193950S, 8x Yermak:cxc:20150109120448S, 8x flinch:cao:20141005130838S, 8x Fusentrap:cao:20150024012123S, 8x WorldFamou... 21:31:25 well, it's obvious why the person named Cheetah got eleven lives 21:31:33 12 lives 21:31:39 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:31:43 (eleven extra) 21:31:46 they still had eleven lives 21:31:48 plus one 21:36:31 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:29 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:37:32 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:39:36 @??wizard 21:39:36 wizard (06p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 28-49 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 658 | Sp: b.venom (3d15), mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow, teleport self [04emergency] / crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18) / magic dart (3d5), paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, teleport self [04emergency] / paralyse, t.. 21:39:50 magic dart 21:39:55 they also have sting in there somewhere 21:40:34 these spell sets were handed down from on high 21:44:15 fr: disallow wielding of non-weapons (only used for bread tech & s2s?) 21:45:18 if the idea is to "fix" bread tech that won't help, bardiche works just as well 21:45:33 OTOH, there isn't much reason to allow wielding of non-weapons, i agree 21:45:34 the idea is to prevent accidental wields of dumb shit 21:45:40 I was thinking about that earlier today 21:45:42 that's good 21:45:45 also, chequers, you missed sandblast 21:45:51 <_miek> chequers: and sandblast 21:45:52 <_miek> whoops 21:46:02 oops 21:46:05 <_miek> ninja'd 21:46:26 i was trying to think of a way in which it actually does harm the game besides unnecessary complication, which that works well as 21:46:39 take out the rocks, make sandblast do damage based on how many walls you're standing next to 21:46:52 accidentally wield ring in stressful situation 21:47:07 well, we do need more reasons to make players stand in corridors 21:47:12 rings are secret tech, they're coded to do 2d40 thanks to a bug 21:47:30 s/wall/floors 21:47:39 flavored as collecting grit off the floor 21:47:48 why don't walls have grit? stop asking questions poindexter 21:48:28 nicolae-: gravity 21:48:30 the floor mites have grit on their backs 21:48:32 augh 21:48:43 Lasty_: I was running from a shrike just now, ?blinked and closed the door 21:48:47 and my sphinx opened it :( 21:48:57 first shrike fight, actually 21:49:00 they seem fairly vicious 21:49:03 and of course floor mites can't cling to walls, their poor clinging was forgotten to be brought back after removal 21:49:16 ! 21:49:21 why can't sandblast just generate sand frmo thin air like most other spells 21:49:26 sphinx thinks shrike strike alright fight 21:49:34 sticks to snakes -> dust to snakes 21:49:58 because, much like adventurers, sandblast needs true grit to succeed 21:50:08 or maybe transmute shouldn't have a summon snakes spell :P 21:51:48 modifying sandblast sounds reasonable 21:51:58 dropping sticks to snakes might make tmut a little too squishy 21:52:47 hands to snakes. your enemies' hands turn to snakes, they drop their weapon and run around while their hands bite their face, doing poison damage 21:52:58 is it intentional that kraken simulacra have rainbow tentacles? 21:53:18 probably not, but that's awesome 21:53:24 !blame gammafunk 21:53:25 I pronounce gammafunk... Guilty! 21:53:43 chequers: it's not a conjuration :) 21:54:36 "turn enemy weapons into snakes" as a crappy low level tukima's 21:55:16 > Is that is the guy who was whining at all changes and flaming new versions all the time? I remember that there was some Youtube guy who did that but i can't remember nickname 21:55:17 Nah, that's BountyHunterSAx. Who started a new series too and announced that he might play .13 or even .15 in the future. 21:55:37 tukima's is currently pretty low-level 21:55:39 earth/tmut. floor to lava. you've been training for this on your living room furniture since you were six. 21:56:14 -!- orneryos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:56:16 earth/tmut, an innovative spell school combination there 21:56:43 i'm unnovating. 21:56:45 un-innovating. 21:56:52 what about this: a conjuration that does damage 21:57:42 %git :/Bolt of Distortion 21:57:45 Could not find commit :/Bolt of Distortion (git returned 128) 21:57:51 %git :/Distortion Bolt 21:57:52 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2938-gd7c9e79: Distortion Bolt. 10(3 months ago, 18 files, 92+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7c9e79116c8 21:58:04 i kind of wish there was a Translocations/Transmutations spell, just for the alliteration 21:58:26 change locations 21:59:01 Reincarnation, Necromancy/Transmigration 21:59:44 <_miek> abyssal-form 22:00:18 my only thought was Phase Hands which phase through things to do unarmed damage that has a chance to ignore ac 22:01:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:05:08 phantasmal hands 22:06:12 Spatial Maelstrom Form, level 10 tmut tloc 22:06:53 phantasmal killer 22:07:45 -!- chequers__ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:09:43 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:58 -!- chequers_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:11:51 <_miek> singularity form 22:12:26 Basil: psycho killer? 22:12:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13:30 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:12 http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Psycho_Crusher ??? 22:16:16 -!- Hosg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:20:46 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 22:22:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:24:25 -!- Kierst_ is now known as kittykai 22:26:29 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:27:25 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:28:36 que est que c'est? 22:34:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:34:37 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:32 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:25 -!- pythonsnake1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:38:00 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:41:17 -!- tstbtto has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:43:58 phase hands -> strip armour: reduce enemy AC by a flat amount based on spell power (ac can go negative, right?) 22:44:10 -!- Xen has quit [Client Quit] 22:44:49 this is great http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3661030&pagenumber=291#post442535532 22:45:16 good job to all concerned 22:45:23 lol 22:46:01 chequers: is this a spell you cast at the start of every fight 22:46:19 yes 22:47:05 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:17 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:25 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:44 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:35 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:53 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:10 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:29 <_miek> bah can't view that twelwe :S 22:49:34 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49:36 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49:58 let me try plain old good and always ready c&ping it 22:50:03 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50:08 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:17 Gift me +8 rapier of freezing with rF+ rPois Weapon swap the aforementioned rapier onto an orc warrior, giving me his cursed -3 glaive Confuse everyone in the area before I can recover it Orc blunders into lava while confused 22:50:26 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:32 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:50:35 <_miek> ah... 22:50:37 <_miek> Xom reasons 22:50:53 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:14 hahaha 22:51:16 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:37 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:17 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:52:19 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:14 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 22:54:03 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 22:54:41 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 22:55:15 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 22:56:24 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 22:58:16 -!- Elynae has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:58:53 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:21 this is a really clever Depths vault... 23:02:31 it's mean to be Wizard Prison from harry potter, right? 23:02:40 it's a Wizard Prison of some kind 23:02:47 not sure if it's specifically the harry potter one 23:02:57 there are soul eaters 23:02:58 it's super cute but I think it might be kind of a dumb design 23:03:11 ah, fair point 23:03:12 its using up all my charges of digging 23:03:22 "more like /dig for xp prison" 23:03:31 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:39 yeah maybe better if it were smaller and you just couldnt dig in 23:03:40 is it the silence prison 23:03:45 yes 23:05:15 I remember logic ninja doing unmentionable things to it 23:05:20 things involving firestorm... 23:05:40 i assume that would be after killing the silent specter 23:05:45 yeah 23:05:58 firestorm works through grates? nice 23:06:12 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:14 tbf, so does summoning & their blink spells 23:06:17 yeah 23:06:21 smite targeting goes through grates 23:06:55 my suggestion would be to make it smaller and less of a "dig murder repeat" style 23:07:15 glass stone walls instead of irgon grates maybe 23:07:40 that would mean that killing the silent spectre wouldn't free the prisoners 23:08:12 killing the silent spectre should turn all the enemies friendly 23:08:17 haha 23:09:00 unless you'rer following trog, of course 23:09:31 in fact trog should put you in penance if you specifically kill that particular spectre 23:09:53 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:03 yeah I think I know the vault you mean 23:10:06 got it on a Fe 23:10:17 couldn't kill the spectre 23:10:29 since it was pre-wand-felids 23:10:59 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:11:24 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:22 stone grates??? 23:14:07 edible grates 23:14:15 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 23:18:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:18:52 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 23:20:03 -!- Kramin42 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:20:28 go to ##crawl-announcements if you think ##crawl doesn't have enough bot spam 23:20:41 -!- walterch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:10 elliptic: the point of it is testing kramell's turning the : seperated milestones into announcements 23:24:27 since I want it to not be dependant on other announcers at all 23:28:19 Kramin42: hrm, what's the short summary of what's going on there? 23:28:36 all announcements 23:28:45 from all servers 23:28:48 like... everything? 23:28:56 yeah 23:29:07 at least all server I know of 23:29:18 I guess then, how is that different from ##crawl? 23:29:30 it has CPO anouncements too 23:29:31 for servers w/o a bot or something? 23:29:31 ice burn 23:29:38 yes 23:29:38 ok 23:29:49 I think a few servers are missing bots in ##crawl, yeah 23:30:01 it's kinda a test, but I wanted Kramell to be able to do CPO announcements for our team channel 23:30:02 -!- motorbit has quit [Client Quit] 23:30:46 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:14 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:31:16 Kramin42: in my brief time in ##crawl-announcements it looked like Kramell missed a cbro milestone, btw 23:31:41 and there are 9 currently active servers if you are trying to get them all 23:32:28 I have 7 23:33:19 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:20 yeah, logfile announcements were bugged 23:33:23 ??servers 23:33:23 servers[1/1]: See {cao}, {cszo}, {cbro} (US), or {cdo}, {clan}, {cxc} (EU), or {cwz}, {lld}, {cpo} (Asia-Pacific). Also http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 23:33:24 which might be it 23:33:32 are the 9 23:33:34 I don't have lld I think 23:33:43 what's cwz 23:33:45 -!- fireprfHydra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:33:46 ??cwz 23:33:47 cwz[1/1]: Crawl server (webtiles-only) located in Korea; the server admin goes by hong on irc. http://webzook.net/ 23:33:54 don't have that either 23:34:18 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:09 cwz lld cpo are the three that don't announce in ##crawl 23:36:25 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:32 ok 23:37:10 oh dang 23:37:16 we need to contact those first two 23:37:25 and I have no idea how to contact cwz 23:37:29 !seen hong 23:37:29 I last saw hong at Tue Feb 24 09:05:33 2015 UTC (1w 6d 19h 31m 56s ago) quitting, saying '*.net *.split'. 23:37:41 ??dplusplus 23:37:41 I don't have a page labeled dplusplus in my learndb. 23:37:45 ??lld 23:37:45 lld[1/2]: http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/#lobby - Admin is https://twitter.com/dplusplus/ . 23:38:09 IMO release 0.16 and they will probably notice fairly soon 23:38:14 <|amethyst> whois webzook.net has an email address 23:39:00 what's the current status of binaries etc for releasing soon? 23:39:20 <|amethyst> aha, that is it: 2015-02-12 21:58:25 !tell gammafunk sesangsokuro@gmail.com 23:40:58 are you planning to not tag it until immediately before the official release time? 23:41:10 I am going to tweet him 23:41:23 because I am modern and adept at social media 23:42:04 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:14 |amethyst: oh cool,thanks 23:43:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:43:33 what's 0.16 going to be called? 23:43:41 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 23:44:00 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44:16 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44:31 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:14 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:45:16 ...oh 23:45:16 -!- PleasingFungus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:23 dplusplus already has a tweet about it 23:45:24 !send Kramin42 the Great Annihilating Truth 23:45:25 Sending the Great Annihilating Truth to Kramin42. 23:45:26 too bad I can't read japanese 23:45:27 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:45:31 (sp?) 23:45:41 -!- PleasingFungus_ is now known as PleasingFungus 23:45:54 I'll tweet him anyways 23:46:13 PleasingFungus: that's right I'll tweet him! 23:46:19 you can email him if you'd like 23:46:20 again, modern and adept at social media over here 23:48:56 oh 23:48:58 did I just 23:49:01 tweet the world? 23:49:03 and not dplusplus 23:49:10 oh yeah 23:49:11 heh 23:49:24 (again, modern and adept at social media is what I am) 23:49:35 https://twitter.com/gammafunk/status/430456104855023616 and political! 23:49:43 nice glasses 23:49:49 yeah sadly my name was registered 23:49:53 so I'm gammafunkDCSS 23:50:37 omg this is so confusing 23:51:04 I'm about to follow you, guess which one is me 23:51:07 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:51:07 @dplusplus Hello, DCSS 0.16 releases in 3 days 23:51:23 oh this is going to be easy 23:51:37 the day before tourney, huh? 23:51:42 3 days what? 23:51:46 i just made up a number 23:51:50 what's the real number 23:51:55 we don't have a number 23:52:14 Mar 10 or 11 are the days people have mentioned in the past 23:52:39 I got it! 23:52:40 you guys have the worst release engineering ever! I'm going back to sysadmin tools where release dates are announced years in advance 23:52:41 phew 23:52:55 I got the twitter life cheevo 23:53:09 had to delete an eroneous tweet, but we're all good now 23:53:30 gammafunk: true social media mastery 23:53:36 tyvm 23:54:03 yeah I'm ready to build the debs when we tag release 23:54:14 and nap.kin is ready to make a windows build and probably the source packages 23:54:16 chequers: tbf, this is the messiest launch I've seen 23:54:18 then there's OS X... 23:54:22 in my extensive history with this project 23:54:46 geekosaur: any luck with the cert and os x compilation? 23:56:11 I'm emailing hong now as well, hopefully we get lld and cwz set up in time 23:57:06 |amethyst: does a "server admins" email list on sourceforge sound like a good idea to you? 23:57:26 something that'd obviously be even lower volume than crd 23:58:24 irc mostly works but our asian admins don't use it...I guess it might actually only be for their benefit at this point 23:59:08 re: server-admins, fwiw I was imagining janitor commands would allow devs to manipulate branches on webtiles servers in future -- once we build code to support that 23:59:14 -!- TastyLemonDrops has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 23:59:22 harder than setting up a ML ofc 23:59:58 yes, we'd talked about this, and I can see how to adapt the dgl scripts to make it work