00:00:56 brb taking some painkillers this headache is bad 00:01:21 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:21 ah, fuck. I left potatoes in my drawer again and forgot about it 00:02:51 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-20-gd0808f3 (34) 00:03:21 anyway. you can always nerf other monsters' XP to compensate. like, i have trouble believing a worm is worth more than 1 xp 00:04:27 can someone remove twelwe[3] 1. people should listen to me 2. i never said meth was good 00:04:43 replacing random zombie/skeleton spawns with no monster would also reduce free XP 00:04:53 -!- mrwooster has quit [Client Quit] 00:04:55 !learn del twelwe[3] 00:04:56 Deleted twelwe[3/3]: Disclaimer: Do not actually listen to twelwe. Meth is bad. Continue playing crawl 00:05:20 -!- Rarn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 00:05:26 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 00:05:27 they're less bad now that d zombies/skeletons aren't slow 00:05:46 thanks duvessa 00:09:52 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:10:59 oh, I see, interesting 00:11:25 since ossuaries still exist (lol) I barely noticed 00:11:30 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:11:52 I got cornered by mummies in an ossuary once and had to bail 00:11:56 that sucked 00:12:00 still I can't say I recall ever feeling threatened by one of these except for early killer bee zombies and early wyvern zombies which no longer exist 00:12:12 nrook is still nostalgic for early wyvern zombies 00:12:14 they were apparently 00:12:16 memorable 00:12:16 and there are early regular killer bees 00:12:24 yes, early wyvern zombies are the only random zombies I liked 00:12:42 they were actually scary so zombie resists meant something for once 00:12:45 wyverns were on jeopardy! today 00:12:55 who likes that one ossuary 00:12:58 that's like tomb:2 00:13:02 infinite traps 00:13:06 * gammafunk glares at PleasingFungus 00:13:32 ??? 00:13:39 hrm, let me look up the map 00:13:47 remember when I accidentally filled tomb with tens of thousands of traps 00:13:53 for months 00:13:57 that was funny 00:14:08 !vault ossuary_tomb_2 00:14:10 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/ossuary.des;hb=HEAD#l338 00:14:33 ossuaries: in case you miss all the terrible things that were removed 00:14:45 !bug 7012 00:14:45 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7012 00:14:52 hm 00:14:55 I think I can probably close this 00:15:27 yes 00:15:34 this is... odd 00:15:35 PleasingFungus: wasn't that just all traps of a certain kind were missing? 00:15:36 I can't log in 00:15:37 I was wondering if that would ever get addressed, I guess it finally was! 00:15:39 I recall something like that 00:15:41 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:46 gammafunk: can you log in to mantis right now 00:16:04 PleasingFungus: yep 00:16:06 also it was that all traps were generating as magical traps, not as the old mix of (meaningless) mechanical traps & magical traps 00:16:06 PleasingFungus: it's the curse of the minmay. your mantis account has suffered the fate of my tavern account 00:16:07 hm 00:16:13 noooooo 00:16:18 this is what I get for talking about ossuaries and tombs!!! 00:16:24 all actions moved to the trash bug 00:16:34 PleasingFungus: also your butt will fall off in a few days 00:16:49 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:16:58 noooo 00:17:01 well looks like making these debian packages is easy 00:17:06 building the package now 00:17:25 son of a bitch 00:17:48 I tried to get it to resend my password info, and it claims my account name + email are invalid 00:17:49 wtf 00:18:05 apparently we'll have: fully optimized debian packages of the release, less optimized windows packages of the release, lol maybe no os X packages if we don't get it signed 00:18:36 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-20-gd0808f3 (34) 00:18:44 there we go, god 00:18:49 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 00:20:00 dangit, linking failed 00:21:04 wasn't bh going to sign the os x stuff 00:21:09 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:21:19 he said he was going to and then nothing happened 00:21:19 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:21 so I'm confused 00:21:42 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:21:58 I don't know if bh actually has a dev account though 00:22:03 he can compile it for us, at least 00:24:45 PleasingFungus: if you come out of retirement to remove mechanical traps, your butt might be saved 00:24:57 I did remove them!!! mostly 00:25:06 a vaultsman is needed to remove them from ossuaries/tomb 00:26:32 and hall of zot 00:26:34 just remove them out-and-out, breaking save compat 00:26:49 it'll force somebody to fix the problem 00:26:59 heh 00:36:26 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 00:38:10 ?/tiler 00:38:11 Matching entries (1): tiles[11]: _The iron imp shouts, "Scamper hence, thou jarring miscreant tiler!" 00:39:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:56 The build passed. 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The stats are currently very basic, butwill be improved. 10(9 days ago, 14 files, 133+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af210ae7b798 00:48:10 03Tom Conrad02 {PleasingFungus} 07[imp] * 0.17-a0-20-g00fe71e: Added new game suggestions for imps and some miscellaneous updates. 10(9 days ago, 7 files, 37+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=00fe71e0e8fe 00:48:10 03Tom Conrad02 {PleasingFungus} 07[imp] * 0.17-a0-21-g0d4b5e3: Made some changes to Imps after playtesting. 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 10+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d4b5e3e0cca 00:48:10 03Tom Conrad02 {PleasingFungus} 07[imp] * 0.17-a0-22-g37fad47: More post-playtesting changes to Imps. 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37fad47fe057 00:48:10 03Tom Conrad02 {PleasingFungus} 07[imp] * 0.17-a0-23-g0058e0f: Changed the suggested classes for Imps. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0058e0f615db 00:48:10 03Tom Conrad02 {PleasingFungus} 07[imp] * 0.17-a0-24-g43170b6: Gave Imps more HP. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43170b63711d 00:48:10 03Tom Conrad02 {PleasingFungus} 07[imp] * 0.17-a0-25-g47074a2: Removed war axe as a fighter option for Imps 10(31 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=47074a227ae4 00:48:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[imp] * 0.17-a0-26-g7f25774: Implement Impitis (and give Imps it) 10(32 seconds ago, 3 files, 40+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f257745bfdf 00:48:46 !tell Grunt 7f25774 00:48:46 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 00:52:33 what do those do again, have teleportitis? 00:53:00 ??cbro 00:53:00 cbro[1/4]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 00:53:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:53:24 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-20-gd0808f3 00:55:44 !tell johnstein people might want you to set up an experimental branch for 'imp'; idk. follow your heart 00:55:44 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 00:56:00 ??imp 00:56:00 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:56:00 crimson imp[1/5]: An annoying bastard that hits you, blinks away, and regens fast enough that even when you do hit them they nearly heal it all back. Hit them hard and fast before they run away, or just take them with you to another level and ditch them once they blink away ({imp parking}). 00:56:19 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15362 it's this 00:56:23 oh I see it 00:56:27 ya 00:56:33 ??johnstein 00:56:33 johnstein[1/1]: acquire Vault Maker Merit Badge Level 1 00:57:02 ok. 0.16. remove old stale experimentals. add imp 00:57:54 quickly! quickly!!! there's no time to waste!!!!!! 01:01:03 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0/20150222232811]] 01:01:12 I'm not sure we should add imp 01:01:34 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! 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[different spell list, etc.] 01:12:59 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15:57 octopode crusher (08x) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 99-127 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 35, 1003(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 2235 | Sp: iron shot (3d29), tentacle throw [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:15:57 %?? octopode_crusher 01:16:11 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:16:19 Spell slot 'bolt of fire.200.magic' missing a casting type 01:16:19 %?? octopode_crusher spells:bolt_of_fire.200.magic 01:16:33 Need a positive spell frequency;got 'magic' in 'bolt of fire.magic.200' 01:16:33 %?? octopode_crusher spells:bolt_of_fire.magic.200 01:16:53 It got more complicated, huh? heh. 01:17:03 octopode crusher (08x) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 99-127 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 35, 1003(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 2128 | Sp: b.fire (3d25) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:17:03 %?? octopode_crusher spells:bolt_of_fire.200.wizard 01:17:27 so spells:name_of_spell.frequency(out of 200).class 01:17:39 .Wizard .Priest or .Animal? I guess? 01:17:44 wizard is something casted, and there's priest and magical 01:17:54 and demonic 01:18:22 @??shard_shrike 01:18:22 shard shrike (12b) | Spd: 30 | HD: 21 | HP: 87-121 | AC/EV: 2/18 | Dam: 2112(cold:21-62) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold++, 08blind | XP: 5345 | Sp: throw icicle (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 01:18:38 and Gretell can give you more up to date info if you /query it and use @?? 01:20:23 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:48 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:25:22 I'm just back to thinking about acid is all. An acid dragon that has Spit_Acid breath and a good melee might be an interesting addition at swamp or vaults level. 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Use !messages to read it. 07:08:44 <|amethyst> I don't see any compelling reason to do so 07:08:50 <|amethyst> Mantis itself is on github 07:09:55 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:12:39 <|amethyst> but we might look at the existing mantis-github integration plugins 07:14:01 <|amethyst> https://noswap.com/blog/integrating-git-svn-with-mantisbt 07:15:34 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:43 |amethyst: the only reason I can see is that if we're on github, people will report issues there 07:15:56 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:16:10 <|amethyst> chequers says you can disable the github issue tracker 07:17:02 <|amethyst> My biggest concern is not losing our bug history again 07:17:12 makes sense 07:17:50 <|amethyst> I would worry about lock-in, but github allegedly has a decent export feature for the issue tracker 07:22:43 <|amethyst> more detailed info on the mantis plugin/github service at https://noswap.com/projects/source-integration 07:23:05 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:05 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 07:23:51 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:10 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:25:13 <|amethyst> oh, in fact, our github repo already has the issue tracker disabled 07:25:51 <|amethyst> bh: just got your invite... not going to just use the crawl-ref org doy created? 07:26:14 -!- jlkd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:26:21 <|amethyst> bh: (you're an owner on that one already) 07:27:47 |amethyst: I didn't want to mess with Travis 07:28:37 <|amethyst> could add a new repo to the same org 07:28:49 ... facepalm 07:29:43 crawl-ref isn't exactly a human friendly name, I probably could've renamed it, but I thought that would break the bot 07:29:58 gotta head to work, I can tinker with this tonight 07:30:01 <|amethyst> true 07:32:15 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:49 what is this for? 07:33:13 <|amethyst> doy: gitorious is closing in a couple of months 07:33:14 are we moving the canonical repo to github? 07:33:20 aha 07:33:26 <|amethyst> doy: that seems the most likely thing 07:33:35 <|amethyst> since we'd have to move to gitlab otherwise 07:33:59 well, if the actual repository is on github, then travis should work on that directly 07:34:30 so i think we should just use the one that's already there 07:35:25 everything should work fine if we just change our remotes and start pushing to the existing mirror 07:35:29 <|amethyst> does the github project track all our branches? 07:35:34 yeah 07:39:30 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43:12 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:46:09 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:48:29 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:49:53 <|amethyst> not sure if the github/mantis stuff already does this, but it would be nice to automatically create issues for pull requests 07:50:44 that would be pretty trivial to write even if it doesn't 07:51:39 <|amethyst> Napkin: since it looks like we're moving to github, what do you think about enabling the SourceGithub plugin in our Mantis? Besides the plugin, we'd have to generate an API key to grant the appropriate permissions to github 07:51:41 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:52:04 <|amethyst> Napkin: https://github.com/mantisbt-plugins/source-integration 07:54:18 <|amethyst> ... 07:54:26 <|amethyst> why does PHP 07:55:34 -!- abixa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 07:55:59 <|amethyst> it makes me cry the way it encourages quoting and escaping as the solution to all your problems 07:57:12 -!- Walttt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:59:18 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:59:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:00:52 has github become more reliable? 08:01:16 let's see if that plugin will work with our version of mantis 08:01:29 really no time at the moment though 08:01:36 <|amethyst> it's no rush 08:02:00 <|amethyst> the mantis integration thing is a "would be nice", not a "need this" 08:02:04 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:02:12 <|amethyst> hi sizzell 08:02:13 good 08:03:02 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:03:30 <|amethyst> as for reliability... I'm not sure, but I know gitorious had some reliability issues there for a while so it probably wouldn't be any *worse* 08:04:14 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:32 |amethyst: is there something I should be worried about w.r.t. gitlab? 08:05:03 <|amethyst> johnny0: other than that we're more likely moving to github rather than gitlab, not really 08:06:58 <|amethyst> there hasn't been any discussion on the mailing list, but I haven't heard anyone argue for gitlab 08:06:58 ahh alright, just curious 08:09:01 -!- walterch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:09 hm, the (crawl-ref) github repo has the unique xp branch now but not the imp one 08:12:10 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:12:34 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:12:52 !messages 08:12:52 (1/1) ChrisOelmueller said (12h 45m 15s ago): cool, imo if it got broken in 0.16 it should also get fixed in 0.16? 08:13:05 speaking of reliability, gitorious is down right now 08:13:16 92 bytes from bond0.fw2-osl2.n.bitbit.net (87.238.62.95): Destination Host Unreachable 08:13:34 !tell ChrisOelmueller yeah, just wanted to make sure that it didn't break everything on DGL 08:13:35 wheals: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 08:13:44 i guess i'll cherry-pick it now 08:15:27 !tell ChrisOelmueller i just realised that this was the reason that online always just had the "*" for wizard 08:15:28 wheals: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 08:16:46 !tell pleasingfungus maybe terence and jessica should have M_NO_HT_WAND? 08:16:46 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:17:23 also i'm not sure about "dangerous" for gastro, but giving a reason to fight is nice i guess :P 08:19:37 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:22:52 i've used github on a whole bunch of projects, never any problems 08:27:14 github was slow, getting stuck and had too little free space for us when we moved away from sf subversion 08:28:13 <|amethyst> Napkin: repo size limit is now 1GB 08:28:25 <|amethyst> we've had a clone of our repo on github for months without any problems so far 08:29:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:29 for when is the move planned? 08:29:52 <|amethyst> something has to happen by May, that's when gitorious shuts down 08:30:01 i see 08:30:03 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30:12 don't do it before the release/tourney, please 08:30:16 <|amethyst> whether it's github, self-hosting, gitlab (they're the ones buying gitorious) or something else 08:30:19 <|amethyst> yeah 08:32:48 hm 08:33:01 tavern is claiming that zig shapes are not randomised inside single games 08:34:29 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:24 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:19 -!- Aston has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:45:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:47:47 <|amethyst> wheals: even across multiple zigs 08:47:52 <|amethyst> wheals: ? 08:48:01 right, they're supposed to be the same inside single zigs 08:48:16 the zig would look pretty ridiculous from the outside otherwise ;P 08:48:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:49:00 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:49:13 <|amethyst> hm 08:49:24 <|amethyst> seems not to be the case, at least with &(enter_zig 08:49:32 gyre/gimble seems more message-spammy than necessary 08:49:43 because it prints monster wounds status twice each attack 08:49:47 e.g. 08:49:53 You hit the vault guard but do no damage. 08:49:54 Your bite misses the vault guard. 08:49:54 The vault guard is severely wounded. 08:49:54 You hit the vault guard but do no damage. 08:49:54 The vault guard is severely wounded. 08:50:38 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:50:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:30 I see, that's because it's hacked onto cleave code 08:52:33 I wonder how hard this would be to fix then :/ 08:53:03 -!- mumra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:53:24 <|amethyst> wheals: oh hm 08:53:38 <|amethyst> wheals: actually, I think it is... I was just seeing two variants I think 08:54:00 I guess can check when writing that message whether this is the first attack with UNRAND_GYRE and omit it if the monster is still alive? 08:54:25 <|amethyst> how do auxes handle it? 08:56:11 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:56:11 <|amethyst> wheals: oh, yeah, looking at the code, they will all be the same 08:56:32 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:26 elliptic: maybe check if the monster is still in the cleave list? 08:57:54 <|amethyst> hm 08:57:59 |amethyst: auxes are handled by the same melee_attack object, cleave creates a new object 08:58:08 <|amethyst> aha 08:58:19 <|amethyst> hm, is callback.ziggurat_initialiser ever called? 08:58:31 i was hoping that generalising the cleave code would be a good idea (maybe eventually combining player auxes and monster multiple attacks into it), but it seems more and more like a bad idea :\ 08:58:32 wheals: or that, yeah 08:59:37 wheals: I think combining some number of these things would be good, I don't know whether player aux system or cleave code is a better thing to combine into though 09:00:13 also was thinking of the idea of some kind of attack like brogue's polearms 09:00:20 what is that 09:00:53 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:01 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:01:11 attack a monster adjacent to the one you attacked and in a line with you and the monster 09:01:37 <|amethyst> FR: "penetration" brand for polearms 09:02:26 <|amethyst> (combines that idea with the current pla interface: you hit whatever you target and the square between you and it) 09:03:04 <|amethyst> (and doesn't really work with autofight at all) 09:03:05 and if you target a square a knight's move away? 09:03:57 well, whatever a beam would do in that case i assume 09:03:59 wheals: my worry about this sort of thing is that it makes kiting monsters until they line up a thing 09:04:15 e.g. 09:04:17 @Y. 09:04:19 ..Y 09:04:32 go left so that the Ys will line up 09:04:35 a thing in melee, you mean :P 09:04:56 well you can already fire a bolt spell to hit both monsters without backing up 09:05:22 yeah, i wasn't specifically suggesting it as much as thinking of ideas that a more general "several attacks in one action" code framework could help with 09:05:28 <|amethyst> my suggestion would work there, if the polearms direction chooser were an actual targetter 09:05:42 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:52 <|amethyst> so you could see that aiming for the rightmost Y would hit the other Y as the middle square 09:05:58 <|amethyst> oh 09:06:08 |amethyst: and then aiming one square to the right of that Y would hit both? 09:06:12 elliptic:ah, i see what you mean (using a crappy web irc client with non-monospace font_) 09:06:18 <|amethyst> aha 09:06:31 <|amethyst> yeah, you'd have to be able to target outside the 3x3 to choose a better angle 09:06:34 <|amethyst> hm 09:06:51 we do let that with limited-range spells 09:06:57 right? 09:07:04 <|amethyst> I was mostly thinking just showing the middle square in the targetter 09:07:04 * wheals can't actually remember 09:07:05 tome-esque targeting 09:07:07 <|amethyst> but 09:07:21 wheals: yes 09:07:43 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:07:52 though i think there is a restriction to LOS (i guess so hugeterm can't get a hypothetical advantage) 09:07:54 <|amethyst> I guess we don't show hit squares that have a monster in them 09:08:04 |amethyst: anyway this sounds like a distinct interface unimprovement compared with current polearms :P 09:08:10 <|amethyst> heh 09:08:30 <|amethyst> I guess laser sword brand is right out then 09:08:51 laser sword form is still good to go though 09:09:35 oh yeah speaking of cleaving 09:09:40 !crashlog * noun~~monster_type 09:09:41 538. ihatethisgame, XL16 HOSk, T:35012 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ihatethisgame/crash-ihatethisgame-20150302-235727.txt 09:10:12 i guess my assorted refactorings caused this but i'm not sure how 09:11:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:11:42 <|amethyst> hm 09:11:44 since attack_cleave_targets does check def->alive 09:11:48 () 09:11:54 <|amethyst> yeah 09:12:01 -!- Pereza0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:12:15 <|amethyst> hmm 09:12:35 <|amethyst> unless the SW isn't noticing its owner dies until in the middle of the attack 09:13:24 <|amethyst> oh 09:13:28 <|amethyst> was infusion up? 09:14:08 <|amethyst> yes, #92: 643 09:14:13 <|amethyst> I think that's it 09:15:46 <|amethyst> hm 09:16:05 oh, does killing a monster not actually destroy the spectral weapon right away? 09:16:12 <|amethyst> handle_phase_hit in general doesn't seem to contemplate the monster being dead already 09:16:28 <|amethyst> I'm not certain, but I think it doesn't 09:16:39 <|amethyst> similar to (but implemented separately from) summons 09:17:15 oh yeah 09:17:58 there should be a test that's just "saint roka band ; executioner's axe v Asterion t:99 delay:0" and sees if there's any crashes 09:18:06 because man this is crashy :P 09:18:17 oh, I didn't know that DUR_CLEAVE was a thing, I guess that makes gyre messages more complicated 09:19:14 elliptic: yeah... that's why i just suggested checking if the monster's still to be hit 09:19:35 I'm not sure the melee_attack object actually has that information though 09:19:38 (G&G's interaction with the blade card still isn't 100% correct but it's close enough) 09:19:49 since they are all spawned from the main attack 09:19:51 oh 09:19:53 yeah 09:19:56 <|amethyst> hm 09:20:12 <|amethyst> no, it seems that killing the owner should dismiss the spectral weapon immediately 09:20:41 can check whether the attack_number is odd or even I guess :P 09:21:00 there's cleave_targets, but maybe that's only in the first one? 09:21:23 <|amethyst> FR: "long arms" spell or mutation that gives every weapon reaching 09:21:32 yep 09:21:34 or wait, maybe I don't know how attack_number works 09:21:55 attack_number is just for monster multiple attacks 09:22:00 AFAICT 09:22:18 melee_attack attck(&attacker, def, attack_number, 09:22:18 ++effective_attack_number, true); 09:22:18 attck.attack(); 09:22:27 is what is called 09:22:56 I guess checking odd/even doesn't work though because some of those are skipped if monsters die 09:24:28 also hm, I didn't know that gimble did less damage than gyre because of cleaving 09:24:31 that seems weird IMO 09:24:41 unless it is checked somewhere? haven't actually looked 09:24:46 i just fixed that 09:25:00 where is the code for that? 09:25:06 (though it means it does 100% even on secondary attacks with DUR_CLEAVE, that's one of the issues) 09:25:12 ah, right 09:25:13 cleave_damage_mod 09:25:20 was wondering how you were handling that :P 09:25:50 okay so if gyre/gimble + DUR_CLEAVE is already not right then maybe I will just improve these messages when DUR_CLEAVE isn't in effect 09:25:55 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:26:09 if you just want a short way, you could check whether the weapon exists, is UNRAND_GYRE, and is named "Gyre" :P 09:26:18 (as you said, won't work with DUR_CLEAVE) 09:26:31 this is shaping up to be more special cases than the shillelagh :( 09:27:18 <|amethyst> oh 09:27:22 <|amethyst> I bet the crash 09:27:24 I am just checking !cleaving instead 09:27:37 <|amethyst> the player probably hit the spectral weapon first 09:27:52 <|amethyst> then it shared damage with the actor and that made it poof? 09:29:42 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:23 i don't think so, there's no Asterion shares his spectral weapon's damage! message 09:33:53 03elliptic02 07* 0.17-a0-21-g7448f46: Reduce Gyre/Gimble message spam. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7448f469075e 09:34:15 03elliptic02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-17-gcd2680d: Reduce Gyre/Gimble message spam. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd2680dac852 09:34:53 <|amethyst> oh right 09:34:53 -!- xordid has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 09:34:59 <|amethyst> sw sharing isn't lethal anyway is it 09:36:23 <|amethyst> hm, a non-crash run: You slice Asterion!! You kill Asterion! You closely miss the spectral weapon. The spectral weapon fades away. 09:36:49 <|amethyst> didn't crash because there was no handle_phase_hit on the sw 09:37:05 <|amethyst> but it also didn't fade away until after that attack 09:38:35 <|amethyst> so what made it fade in this case 09:38:52 <|amethyst> this is well before the behaviour_event 09:40:41 world_reacts? 09:40:49 oh, you mean in the crash case 09:40:53 <|amethyst> yeah 09:41:07 have you tested hitting it? 09:41:19 <|amethyst> ? 09:41:42 <|amethyst> oh, hitting it first so damage is shared 09:42:01 <|amethyst> can't really control that, but it seems not to crash when I hit it first 09:42:09 i mean, you missed it on the non-crash run 09:42:39 <|amethyst> yeah, I think the same thing, but when I hit it, is the crash case 09:42:49 <|amethyst> killing asterion with the first hit, then hitting the sw 09:43:04 <|amethyst> with infusion up so handle_phase_hit checks the defender's AC 09:43:37 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:21 hm, so something cleans up the SW that gets called when you hit but not when missed 09:44:37 !tell PleasingFungus http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/community-contributions.txt is a rough draft of some stats on non-devteam contribs. I couldn't write the opening paragraph it felt too self serving 09:44:37 ebering: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 09:44:49 <|amethyst> yeah, I'd think the behaviour event but the crash is happening before that point 09:44:54 <|amethyst> hm 09:46:41 <|amethyst> // We might have killed the kraken target by cleaving a tentacle. 09:47:07 <|amethyst> it had to have happened after that point in melee_attack::attack (which calls handle_phase_hit later) 09:48:02 !source monster::wearing 09:48:03 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc;hb=HEAD#l395 09:48:11 !tell ontoclasm see the tiles paragraph in http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/community-contributions.txt (meant in a playful tone, I'm aware of the issues w/creating commits) 09:48:12 ebering: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 09:48:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:49:02 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:52:24 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:48 !learn add ebering some summary of non-devteam submissions to 0.16 here http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/community-contributions.txt MISSING: Tiles (possibly some vault authors too?). Todo: linkify commits, canonicalize names to the ones in CREDITS (or not?) 09:52:49 ebering[2/2]: some summary of non-devteam submissions to 0.16 here http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/community-contributions.txt MISSING: Tiles (possibly some vault authors too?). Todo: linkify commits, canonicalize names to the ones in CREDITS (or not?) 09:53:16 ebering: sandman also did the item_slot patch 09:54:47 dammit, i can't believe i forgot to credit him in the message :( 09:55:12 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:16 * wheals slaps himself around with a large trout 09:55:48 Lasty: that was from SA, not my own game, sadly :( apparently cerebov stayed paralysed for the rest of the fight 09:55:49 also, chriso doesn't like to be called chriso apparently 09:55:57 ??ru reasons[retri 09:55:58 ru_reasons[2/7]: _Cerebov is paralyzed in retribution by your aura! 09:56:06 heh 09:56:15 (was me) 09:56:16 the one I saw was from Apocalypse or w/e it's currently called 09:56:18 <|amethyst> ebering: "Chris Oelmueller" 09:56:50 <|amethyst> I think he said leaving out the space is acceptible 09:57:07 or just "chris", though alefury, MarvinPA, and gammafunk are also named that 09:57:08 !tell gammafunk I'm not pushing for it to move into trunk or w/e, I just think it's at least as worth playing with as Bearkin or w/e 09:57:08 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 09:57:25 noted. 09:57:57 hm, I still can't reach the repo on gitorious 09:58:03 ebering: also, zaba is a dev 09:58:14 wheals: I have no idea what our philosophy is wrt spawning early uniques with wands; it's hard for me to argue for or against any given unique spawning with wands, given that 09:58:14 yeah, I am 09:58:37 %git --author=zaba 09:58:37 07zaba02 * 2a447e932c95: Make the Xcode project syntactically correct again. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a447e932c95 09:58:43 oh right 09:58:44 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:59:00 not particularly active for many years, though I do try to follow development as much as time permits 09:59:12 Zaba: what version of os x do you have? we were looking for people with <10.10 to compile for older ones 09:59:27 I have a power mac with 10.5 but it might or might not have PSU problems 09:59:28 since apparently compiling for older ones is harder than for newer ones 09:59:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:00:03 s/for older/on new ones &/ 10:00:23 I strongly suspect it won't compile on there at all, now that we're c++11 10:00:35 well, i don't actually know what's going on so you'll have to get in touch with gammafunk anyway 10:00:36 I don't really see much point in building for old versions 10:00:43 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:52 yeah i don't really know what usage is like anyway 10:01:00 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:01:07 most people who stick with old versions don't expect to be able to run all the newest software anyway 10:01:07 aren't Mac People the people who upgrade every year anyway? :P 10:01:38 Mac People are basically like the Village People 10:01:59 wheals, you'd be surprised 10:02:14 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:02:30 wearing my MacPorts hat, we get a fair number of people who want to use mp to keep ancient machines semi-up-to-date 10:02:41 geekosaur, yeah, but it works terribly anyway 10:02:50 I mean, there's quite a lot of software that's built to run on 10.5 10:02:55 tweaked version up; will probably try to canonicalize names to the ones in CREDITS during my office hours 10:02:56 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:03:00 <|amethyst> oh 10:03:03 but actually trying to use it on my power mac is absolutely pointless 10:03:05 <|amethyst> calc_damage is killing it 10:03:05 Grunt: monster demonspawn don't have impitis! 10:03:36 "chriso" coming in with 39 commits and twice that number of patches :) 10:03:45 (such as recent discussion "compile is hung on my g3!" "no, it just takes 48 hours to build on that hardware") 10:04:46 I wonder if my parents 10:04:59 ' old power mac still runs 10:05:22 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:05:32 by the way, what's that website which calculates some different free software project metrics? Stuff like number of updates in last n days, distinct contributors, % of the code that is comments, etc 10:05:37 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Macintosh_G3_DT.jpg something in this family 10:05:41 I remember DCSS has some impressive stats 10:05:42 ??gitsts[2 10:05:43 I don't have a page labeled gitsts[2] in my learndb. 10:05:44 ??gitstats[ohlo 10:05:44 gitstats[2/3]: http://www.ohloh.net/p/stonesoup 10:05:48 feh 10:05:51 thanks you two 10:06:01 pah. I deserve only shame 10:06:22 ebering: have you seen this? 10:07:40 http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/authors.html is also pretty useful, though more for devs' ego than anything. ditto http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/tags.html 10:07:55 <|amethyst> oh 10:08:08 <|amethyst> wheals: it's the alert_nearby_monsters() in attack::player_stab() 10:08:16 is there anything more important than devs' egos 10:08:27 mhm 10:08:36 <|amethyst> wheals: which is called from attack::calc_damage, which is called from the infusion code in handle_player_hit 10:09:24 that sounds bad anyway, do monsters get alerted twice if you use infusion? 10:09:52 <|amethyst> well 10:10:01 <|amethyst> oh 10:10:06 bonus question: what if you use an elemental-branded weapon 10:10:06 <|amethyst> it's not in the infusion code 10:10:09 <|amethyst> it's just before it 10:10:24 oh i see what you mean now 10:15:22 <|amethyst> this should fix it... 10:16:26 <|amethyst> I think the vampire-draining code in player_monattk_hit_effects (which is before the dead-monster check) is safe 10:17:01 <|amethyst> because a dead-and-already-reset monster doesn't have blood 10:17:13 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:19:31 <|amethyst> seems to work 10:20:08 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:27:03 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27:35 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:09 -!- muravey__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:18 -!- muravey_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30:56 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:31:56 -!- olourkin has quit [Client Quit] 10:33:16 -!- olourkin has quit [Client Quit] 10:33:51 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35:05 !tell ebering "Dragon form enhances Dragon's Call" was reverted, so maybe it's confusing to list that? then again maybe it's good to show the exciting process of development in action 10:35:06 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let ebering know. 10:35:34 that whole process completely turned nrook off crawl dev 10:35:38 he now says that the game is 'dead to him' 10:35:42 so idk that it's really a success story 10:36:00 it is a typical one, though! 10:36:14 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:41:51 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-22-ge0bdd66: Fix a crash with cleaving + infusion vs spectral weapons. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0bdd66d849c 10:43:01 <|amethyst> hm 10:43:16 <|amethyst> gitorious, quit being dumb 10:43:29 it'll quit being dumb in a few months 10:43:30 why the hurry? 10:43:42 <|amethyst> there we go 10:43:51 <|amethyst> It was hanging when I tried to push 0.16 10:44:01 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-18-g9590bb8: Fix a crash with cleaving + infusion vs spectral weapons. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9590bb8900ea 10:44:08 ahh 10:44:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0/20150222232811]] 10:46:07 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:53:18 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:05 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:00:48 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:21 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:40 n1k: nifty thanks! 11:04:40 ebering: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:08:05 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:08:49 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:10:02 Hm that's sad about nrook; if this appears in somewhere other than an unliked file on my personal www it will be under someone else's editorial control, so I'll defer to their judgement and leave it in for now for completeness 11:11:18 -!- muravey__ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 11:12:23 -!- muravey__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:59 -!- muravey__ has quit [Client Quit] 11:13:59 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:45 %git 19b1b05 11:16:46 07Kek02 {wheals} * 0.16-a0-920-g19b1b05: Shopping sorting 10(3 years, 2 months ago, 1 file, 86+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=19b1b05eccd6 11:18:21 the author doesn't appear to be in CREDITS under this name (which is their name according to mailmap) 11:19:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:21:44 <|amethyst> not sure whether to add them as "Kek" (their "name" in the Author: line) or "tukkek" (their email address and their mantis username) 11:21:46 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5169 11:21:48 <|amethyst> I guess the latter 11:21:52 they're already there, as alex henry 11:21:57 <|amethyst> ahh 11:22:19 <|amethyst> %git fcb19ffc13fb 11:22:19 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-463-gfcb19ff: Add Alex Henry to CREDITS.txt. 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcb19ffc13fb 11:24:21 %git dc488c0 11:24:22 07Akinori MUSHA02 {wheals} * 0.16-a0-462-gdc488c0: Use more sources to locate font files. 10(2 years, 5 months ago, 1 file, 12+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc488c0ddeeb 11:24:29 this one also missing from credits 11:24:53 or some weird name/mailmap gap thing 11:25:19 <|amethyst> hm, they're knu on mantis 11:27:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-23-g8b1c2ff: Add knu to credits and mailmap (ebering) 10(36 seconds ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b1c2ff5c0cd 11:27:20 %git 02c350a 11:27:20 07waylon53102 {PleasingFungus} * 0.16-a0-3732-g02c350a: Axes no longer cleave to neutral targets (9401) 10(8 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02c350a381eb 11:29:27 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:29:35 |amethyst: hm 11:29:50 er, never mind 11:29:59 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-24-g2f9c35f: Add waylon531 to credits (ebering) 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f9c35f36fb8 11:30:14 i was thinking that commit could be expanded to fix that problem with debian on mantis 11:30:32 it would only help if you compile it yourself, though 11:30:41 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-19-ga4bd448: Add knu to credits and mailmap (ebering) 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4bd44890f1d 11:30:41 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-20-g1ec50dd: Add waylon531 to credits (ebering) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ec50ddd6084 11:30:53 <|amethyst> wheals: it's a matter of building the package on a new enough debian release 11:31:23 ah 11:32:39 |amethyst: I'll probably find a few more but I don't want to spam up -dev 11:33:23 <|amethyst> ebering: file it on mantis 11:33:34 <|amethyst> with a patch if you want 11:34:15 <|amethyst> Usually I've been putting IRC nicks, second preference mantis usernames, in mailmap, and not adding them when the name in the Author: line is already that 11:34:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34:45 ok 11:37:42 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-25-g594cf96: Add jvj24601 to credits. 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=594cf96abfa4 11:37:42 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16-b1-21-gdeee65e: Add jvj24601 to credits. 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=deee65e96e75 11:39:36 wrote a little thing on item generation at http://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikedev/comments/2y3rkg/faq_friday_7_loot/cp6dsnh, if anyone wants to take a look 11:43:16 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:43:45 -!- mauris_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:43:48 I gave it an upvote 11:43:53 now I'm a redditor 11:44:34 thank you for "retumbling" my "+1" 11:46:43 mm 11:46:55 oops clicked upvote instead of report (seriously though, great post wheals. This is all new to me) 11:48:00 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:48:24 hm, player::has_claws returns true non-0 for suppressed troll claws but not ds claws 11:48:31 does this seem worth preserving 11:48:41 n1k: hey, a bunch is new to me too :P 11:52:00 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:01 The build has errored. (imp - 7f25774 #1893 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/53355370 11:52:01 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:55:31 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:32 The build has errored. (master - 7448f46 #1893 : elliptic): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/53355374 11:55:32 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:57:53 wheals: there's a comment somewhere in uc acc code that suggests someone wanted to care about whether the species always has claws vs just having mutated them 11:58:07 yah it's all very silly 11:58:15 Isolated pan lord vault 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9520 by ldf 11:58:53 there's also a bunch of stuff that seems to do nothing but make felids have claws in every way except for it not being in the A screen 11:59:15 haha 11:59:20 oops 11:59:29 hm, I think that vault is very old & intentionally walled in 11:59:32 idk if we want to keep it 12:00:02 being in extended (and pan specifically) means we can get away with more 12:02:10 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:02:10 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:02:35 stupid crawl won't compile with LTO 12:03:43 heh 12:03:56 looks like grey dracs never actually get MUT_UNBREATHING 12:04:07 oh, nvm 12:04:13 * wheals is dumb 12:06:37 ??oops 12:06:38 pleasingfungus[1/21]: oops 12:06:42 dumb?? 12:06:42 <|amethyst> that's dumb 12:06:53 ah, you win this time 12:07:06 goign to see if LTO works for normal-not-deb-making compilation 12:07:32 I've tried gcc-4.8, upgraded my ubuntu to get gcc-4.9.1, then tried gcc-4.9.2 12:10:17 !learn del controlled blink[2] 12:10:18 Deleted controlled blink[2/5]: Only gives you semi-controlled blink 50% of the time when you have the Orb of Zot. 12:14:44 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:15:58