00:05:19 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:05:24 -!- omnirizo1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:05:27 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4127-g24fbb24 (34) 00:08:04 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:31 CanOfWorms: that thing is already better than the current tile 00:10:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:11:20 is this really necessary? http://pastebin.com/rjXjMc6u 00:11:22 all one turn 00:13:21 well, are you a pot-faker? 00:13:31 maybe the truth hurts! 00:14:18 http://puu.sh/giWxj/9db59c607f.png 00:14:28 gammafunk: it amazes me that the "zombie fuel" stuff is legal 00:15:16 iron dragon feels annoyingly monochromatic 00:15:32 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:20 http://puu.sh/giWFp/56fb4fba3e.png 00:16:46 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4127-g24fbb24 (34) 00:16:59 CanOfWorms: those were golden and iron? 00:17:07 base things, yeah 00:17:11 v. cool 00:17:14 gold still needs wings 00:17:16 I guess you'll add wings...yeah 00:17:21 iron dragon (10D) | Spd: 8 | HD: 18 | HP: 105-128 | AC/EV: 20/6 | Dam: 25, 2509(claw), 2507(trample) | see invisible | Res: 06magic(160), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 1717 | Sp: metal splinters (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 00:17:21 %??iron_dragon 00:17:22 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:17:30 oh, those just don't fly 00:17:37 yep 00:18:17 iron dragon shield: ponderous, rf+ rc+ rpois, prevents flight 00:18:26 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:18:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:18:58 !seen ontoclasm 00:18:58 I last saw ontoclasm at Sun Mar 1 23:52:33 2015 UTC (6h 26m 25s ago) saying 'ok, i'll be back later; send me any other revisions you do' on ##crawl-dev. 00:20:28 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:20:42 CanOfWorms: while you're at it, can you fit these in somehow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS0LoMtNn2Y#t=14 00:21:58 what, those alien things? 00:22:23 and their beautiful language 00:22:54 (was parodied on MST3K because it's unintentionally hilarious) 00:24:08 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:11 :o 00:26:26 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:27:27 http://puu.sh/giXge/6340316c23.png 00:27:37 comparison shot of all three dragons 00:33:32 looks really nice in general. only comment would be that maybe the chest segments (?) are too prominent on the golden and iron dragons 00:34:13 they kind of look like a worm is attached to them, running vertically 00:34:17 but that could just be me 00:35:34 I'm seeing that too 00:35:38 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35:41 bread draconians, worm dragons 00:35:47 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37:27 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:38:19 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:26 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41:27 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-4128-g10e7e3d: Make catoblepas speed 10 and reduce their breath spam a bit (minmay) 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10e7e3d4ad27 00:41:29 ??gammafunk 00:41:29 gammafunk[1/12]: TODO: rescue the loneliest frog, make catoble speed 10, grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies, yell at tarotcard for putting naga mages and salamanders in depths encompass vaults 00:41:55 !learn edit gammafunk[1] s/ make cato[^,]+, // 00:41:55 gammafunk[1/12]: TODO: rescue the loneliest frog, grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies, yell at tarotcard for putting naga mages and salamanders in depths encompass vaults 00:43:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:43:22 !learn edit gammafunk[1] s/yell at[^,]+/adjust stairs in profane halls and elficide/ 00:43:23 gammafunk[1/12]: TODO: rescue the loneliest frog, grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies, adjust stairs in profane halls and elficide 00:43:35 you should add something fun to do like a hobby or sports 00:45:00 !learn edit gammafunk[1] s/$/, hobby: destroy all instances of pizza tornado in every universe in the multiverse/ 00:45:01 gammafunk[1/12]: TODO: rescue the loneliest frog, grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies, adjust stairs in profane halls and elficide, hobby: destroy all instances of pizza tornado in every universe in the multiverse 00:45:39 i just got owned witha capital p 00:46:01 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:34 http://puu.sh/giY9a/5836c049cd.png 00:46:43 ingame shot of the dragons 00:52:53 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4127-g24fbb24 00:53:01 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:53:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:55:11 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:59:08 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:04:03 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:05:52 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:17:06 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:17:17 -!- rgould has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17:57 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:18:55 !tell ontoclasm http://i.imgur.com/rwKUvtm.png new dragon sprites 01:18:55 CanOfWorms: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 01:19:01 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:21:19 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:24:14 -!- rgould has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:28:50 -!- TAS_2012a has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:33:43 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:34:08 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:36:40 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:54 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:43:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:46:36 it looks to me like you get more piety for killing 2 slime creatures than 1 large slime creature 01:46:38 this seems bad 01:47:24 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:52:13 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 01:57:47 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02:36 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:37 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 02:08:58 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:01 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:11:53 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 02:20:17 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:22:12 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4128-g10e7e3d (34) 02:23:16 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:50 -!- rgould has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:30:54 -!- TAS-2012a has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:19 -!- TAS_2012a has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:36:00 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:44:55 -!- Wahaha has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:09 -!- TAS2012a has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:51:20 -!- rophy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:07:19 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:47 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22:21 -!- Ly^ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:22:49 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:24:18 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:24:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:27:28 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:33:39 -!- miz_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:41 -!- miz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:34:22 -!- miz_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:54 -!- Ly^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:35:26 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 03:36:52 -!- miz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:38:48 -!- miz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:39:45 no monster for 9065 error? 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ZZZzzz…] 07:43:11 -!- kryft has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:51:16 -!- rgould has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:04:27 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:06:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:21:42 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:24:15 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 08:33:48 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:14 -!- TAS_2012a has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36:47 wow, the code to find fonts is quite something 08:37:29 SYS_PROPORTIONAL_FONT = $(shell { name=$(OUR_PROPORTIONAL_FONT); { fc-list | sed 's/: .*//' | grep -Fi "/$$name"; for dir in /usr/share/fonts /usr/local/share/fonts /usr/*/lib/X11/fonts; do [ -d $$dir ] && echo $$dir; done; } | xargs -I% find % -type f -iname $$name -print | head -n1; } 2>/dev/null) 08:40:37 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:43 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:26 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:58 |amethyst: thinking about it, font autodetection should probably be done at runtime, not compiletime... 08:58:04 -!- Gale_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:02:18 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:49 -!- hypermatt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:13:44 <|amethyst> wheals: part of the reason it happens at build time is so we can package the font if requested, without requiring contribs 09:15:28 <|amethyst> wheals: but when we don't package our own font (ifndef PROPORTIONAL_FONT, system proportional font found, and COPY_FONTS == "") we probably should search for it at runtime rather than using the location on the build host 09:17:23 right, yeah 09:17:26 !blame neunon 09:17:27 I pronounce neunon... Guilty! 09:17:36 (just following the instructions in the file) 09:23:18 -!- hypermatt has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:12 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:31:00 !bug 9224 09:31:00 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9224 09:33:50 -!- Furril has quit [Client Quit] 09:34:28 patch attached as promised 09:38:04 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:40:09 -!- rgould has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:40:32 good job to all concerned 09:44:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:46:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:47:24 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:56:17 thanks, twelwe! 10:01:23 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:09 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 10:09:19 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 10:09:51 -!- Morik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:11:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:52 im gonna write the steam achievements for you guys because i love me some cheevos and its what crawl really needs right now 10:16:15 -!- abixa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 10:16:46 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:21:42 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:24:34 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:55 -!- tw12we has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:25:06 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:30:45 -!- zooko has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:34:31 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:51 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:00 !tell chequers the pizza tornado page is good but it could use more tags 10:39:01 wheals: OK, I'll let chequers know. 10:40:08 he needs to give me internet access to it so i can add the new notes and the philosophy guide 10:42:04 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:43:28 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:43:48 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:18 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 10:44:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:44:56 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:54:43 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:55:06 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:55:55 -!- rgould has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:02:08 Blowgun does not respect !f inscription 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9512 by Sandman25 11:03:33 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 11:04:40 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:55 !seen ontoclasm 11:04:56 I last saw ontoclasm at Sun Mar 1 23:52:33 2015 UTC (17h 12m 22s ago) saying 'ok, i'll be back later; send me any other revisions you do' on ##crawl-dev. 11:05:20 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:08:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:11:24 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4128-g10e7e3d (34) 11:11:36 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14:38 -!- indspenceable has quit [Client Quit] 11:21:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:32:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:24 -!- zooko has left ##crawl-dev 11:34:28 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:50:00 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 11:50:30 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:53 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:45 gammafunk: I am going to move all the styling into a proper build process, its going to make changes and customizations way way easier, esp with regards to bootstrap… do you have any preference between sass and less? 11:53:04 bootstrap is built on less, so makes a bit more sense, but has an official sass port 11:58:06 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:01:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16:44 !wtf sass 12:16:44 Unemployed Unperson 12:16:51 unemployed salamander, Sequell 12:17:45 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:49 sassymanders? 12:20:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:27:35 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:27:38 !tell gammafunk: https://github.com/guyht/crawl/commits/mrwooster-dev - I have moved all the styles to less, this is going to make it much easier to add customization later on, and I have moved the non bootstrap styling to dcss_style.less… and it all now builds into the same file. Everything is automatically built on npm install. Currently the output is non minified, but this can easily be changed by adding the -x flag to t 12:27:38 Sorry mrwooster, I don't know who gammafunk: is. 12:27:39 less compile command. 12:28:20 !tell gammafunk https://github.com/guyht/crawl/commits/mrwooster-dev - I have moved all the styles to less, this is going to make it much easier to add customization later on, and I have moved the non bootstrap styling to dcss_style.less… and it all now builds into the same file. Everything is automatically built on npm install. Currently the output is non minified, but this can easily be changed by adding the -x flag to t 12:28:20 Maximum message length is 300 characters. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 12:28:21 less compile command. 12:28:32 !tell gammafunk https://github.com/guyht/crawl/commits/mrwooster-dev - I have moved all the styles to less, this is going to make it much easier to add customization later on, and I have moved the non bootstrap styling to dcss_style.less… and it all now builds into the same file. 12:28:32 mrwooster: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:28:41 !tell gammafunk Everything is automatically built on npm install. Currently the output is non minified, but this can easily be changed by adding the -x flag to the less compile command. 12:28:42 mrwooster: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:32:43 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:39:22 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:41:02 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:46 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:45:58 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:29 -!- rgould has quit [] 13:01:07 -!- vible has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:56 -!- Lysalla has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:09:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:14:37 -!- Aston has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:15:39 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:18:28 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:09 !learn edit banner_ideas s/14/16/ 13:24:10 banner ideas[1/1]: Add ideas here for new banners in the 0.16 tourney! See http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.13/ for a list of the old banners. http://bpaste.net/raw/190205/ has some guidelines for coming up with banners. 13:24:15 !learn edit banner_ideas s/13/15/ 13:24:16 banner ideas[1/1]: Add ideas here for new banners in the 0.16 tourney! See http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/ for a list of the old banners. http://bpaste.net/raw/190205/ has some guidelines for coming up with banners. 13:24:39 still looking for at least one more good new banner idea 13:25:10 ideally Veh-flavored but that's not essential 13:25:59 get to lair 8 with only 3 spells memorized 13:32:03 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:59 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:35:14 elliptic: how about: reach the bottom of your first rune branch in less than 1000 turns; get your first rune 50 or fewer turns after entering the your first rune floor; get the orb 50 or fewer turns after entering Zot:5? 13:39:38 too luck-dependent I think 13:39:59 for staircases for I, for teleports for III 13:40:33 (and II rewards mapping+cTele too much IMO) 13:42:46 ah true 13:44:16 That tier I banners need to be accessible to players who aren't winning the game makes things tricky. 13:44:22 (and tier II even) 13:45:34 yeah, though for tier II we assume players are at least getting close to their first win (and might get it in the tourney!) 13:46:53 maybe we could do something with have fewer than (x) kills (or experience levels) when you I) get your first rune, II) enter depths, III) win 13:47:36 the killcounter is broken unfortunately (and has been for a while) -- it includes stuff like monsters you've never seen dying to cloud generators 13:47:53 and iirc also includes plants? I forget 13:48:36 elliptic: just took a look at your win history… its mental 13:48:39 doing things at low XL is possible, I'm not sure exactly what would be good 13:49:06 mrwooster: I have wasted quite a bit of time on crawl :) 13:49:32 we can find target xls with queries like: 13:49:41 haha, still, the consistency of your wins is impressive 13:49:42 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=-xl 13:49:45 91338 milestones for * (recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 10, 4x 11, 41x 12, 71x 13, 391x 14, 1405x 15, 2420x 26, 2657x 22, 2683x 23, 2724x 25, 2747x 21, 2765x 24, 4086x 20, 5255x 16, 8721x 19, 12565x 17, 13584x 18, 29218x 27 13:49:47 yeah 13:49:49 zactly 13:49:57 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal xl=10 13:50:02 1. [2014-09-14 19:57:24] Zalbag the Protected (L10 DDBe of Trog) found a gossamer rune of Zot on turn 5080. (Spider:5) 13:50:09 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal xl=10 -game 13:50:11 Zalbag:cszo:20140814193116S. Zalbag the Protected (L10 DDBe of Trog), demolished by a redback on Spider:5 (grunt_spider_rune_parallel) on 2014-09-14 19:57:31, with 18854 points after 5086 turns and 0:26:14. 13:51:06 !lg * recent won s=-xl 13:51:07 8792 games for * (recent won): 18, 17, 4x 19, 8x 20, 16x 21, 54x 22, 85x 23, 203x 24, 420x 25, 754x 26, 7246x 27 13:51:33 !lg * recent won xl=17 13:51:34 1. Tabstorm the Imperceptible (L17 SpEn of Dithmenos), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-07-27 19:54:14, with 3864175 points after 16551 turns and 2:32:10. 13:51:54 Lasty_: ru having sacrifice experience is sort of annoying for this type of banner 13:52:08 elliptic: . . . . true 13:52:10 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:11 "sacrifice experience on D:1 with the orb" 13:52:22 some of the other banners ban a god 13:52:23 I wonder whether adding a maxxl field would be good anyway 13:53:06 in the past I haven't bothered adding that (for felids) because there were vague plans to remove felid level drain 13:53:39 maxxl wouldn't help here -- if they sac xp at (say) xl 17 and then re-level up to xl 18, sac xp wouldn't be factored in at all. 13:54:15 I'd be fine w/ removing felid level drain (and felids, for that matter) 13:54:20 well, it would help with sacrificing experience on D:1 at least... but yeah, I agree it would still be abusable 13:54:44 I think we'd just have to ban ru for that banner 13:54:57 I think the only reason why felid level drain is still around is that the code for felid extra lives scheduling is sort of tricky 13:55:24 and would require someone to figure out what to do with it 13:55:38 also, natasha would be immortal 13:55:41 but that's okay right?? 13:55:53 Sure. Like a same-level boris. <.< >.> 13:56:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:56:35 . . . now I want to make a branch where no monsters spawn, but all native monsters respawn somewhere else in the level after being killed. 13:56:40 but yeah, banning ru is an option, though it's a bit inelegant unless we come up with a good flavor justification 13:56:52 sacrifice banner 13:57:12 Only problem there is that it forces you to use one god 13:57:32 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:40 I think for this sort of XL banner probably it should be tier 2 = rune, tier 3 = win 13:57:47 Unless you word it as "take Ru, make X sacrifices, then leave the god and achieve Y" 13:57:59 Tier I: reach d15? 13:58:07 then you have to ban Fo :P 13:58:12 . . . true 13:58:16 maybe entering lair 13:58:30 though I don't really like that either 13:58:50 How do you feel about the sacrifice-and-leave-Ru banner? 13:59:19 as I've said previously, I think that fits better as a one-tourney-only non-banner special thing 13:59:35 and I'll implement it as such if I have time 14:00:20 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:00:21 I guess it might be okay as an actual banner though (but I still don't think it is something we want to have every tourney) 14:00:36 since although it requires a single god, it also requires abandoning that god 14:00:50 yeah 14:01:10 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 14:01:18 hm, so what would the tiers be... 14:01:19 -!- AtomikKrab has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:17 Tier I: make 3 sacrifices with Ru and abandon Ru before getting a rune. Tier II: champion Ru and abandon Ru before getting a rune. Tier III: champion Ru, abandon Ru, and win the game. 14:03:34 I think you need to add some condition on when you have to abandon Ru by 14:03:56 Immediately after hitting the milestone, I'd say. 14:04:08 Force them to do it immediately after making the final sacrifice. 14:04:14 then you just wait until orbrun to make the final sacrifice 14:04:14 er, hmm 14:04:16 right 14:04:33 Before reaching D:15 or getting a rune? 14:04:50 either an XL cutoff or a rune/location cutoff are the options I see, yeah 14:05:17 that would work for tier III at least, but tier II still has issues then (abandon Ru while standing on top of a rune) 14:05:42 !lm * recent ru verb=champion s=xl 14:05:43 No milestones for * (recent ru verb=champion). 14:05:51 !lm * recent god.maxpiety=ru s=xl 14:05:52 963 milestones for * (recent god.maxpiety=ru): 221x 13, 191x 14, 170x 12, 109x 15, 83x 11, 48x 16, 27x 17, 24x 18, 23x 10, 13x 19, 11x 27, 11x 20, 8x 22, 6x 9, 6x 21, 5x 25, 3x 24, 2x 26, 8, 23 14:06:18 looks like around XL 12-ish. 14:06:25 !lm * recent god.maxpiety=ru s=place 14:06:26 963 milestones for * (recent god.maxpiety=ru): 66x Lair:8, 63x Lair:4, 62x Lair:5, 62x Lair:7, 60x Lair:6, 57x Lair:3, 51x Orc:4, 48x Lair:2, 44x Orc:3, 40x D:11, 35x Lair:1, 28x Orc:2, 27x D:13, 26x Orc:1, 26x D:10, 26x D:14, 25x D:12, 21x IceCv, 18x D:9, 12x D:15, 9x Lab, 9x Vaults:3, 8x Snake:3, 8x Snake:2, 7x D:8, 6x Spider:1, 5x Spider:5, 5x Vaults:4, 5x Vaults:2, 5x Elf:3, 5x Elf:2, 5x Snake... 14:06:54 Most people seem to be able to max it in Lair, or failing that, Orc. 14:07:02 yeah 14:07:27 I want to be sure that they have a chance to max it, but not reject a lot of sacrifices. 14:08:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 14:08:59 something like "must abandon at ****** piety before entering any branches other than lair/orc" would work but is sort of awkward 14:09:24 and it's still hard to make a good tier I for this I think 14:11:51 I guess tier I could just be "reach ****** piety with Ru" 14:13:08 <|amethyst> tier I: reach ****** piety and abandon tier II: reach ****** piety, abandon, and become the champion of another god tier III: reach ****** piety, abandon, and win 14:13:57 III would still need some timing conditions 14:14:15 <|amethyst> yeah, I was glossing over the depth/timing conditions 14:14:27 and I'd rather have I not involve making the character awful right at the end for the banner 14:14:55 reach 6* piety and abandon before clvl 15 14:15:05 <|amethyst> I was thinking all three would have the conditions you mentioned earlier, or something similar 14:15:38 <|amethyst> then the tier would be a question of how long you can survive given the handicap 14:15:51 <|amethyst> tier I = "at least you tried..." 14:15:56 tier 1 banners are partly aimed at players who find it a bit challenging to get to ****** piety, I don't think they should have to sacrifice such a character just for a banner 14:16:06 <|amethyst> hm 14:16:24 I like your tier II though 14:16:29 <|amethyst> maybe just "reach ****** by this time" is fine then 14:16:51 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:16:53 maybe just allow D and lair, I don't think orc is necessary for ****** 14:17:19 since the players who reach maxpiety in orc probably had levels of D to go 14:17:43 <|amethyst> Hm... what about late altars? 14:18:03 <|amethyst> I guess D:10-$ plus Lair is probably still enough 14:18:41 (also they probably rejected some sacrifices) 14:19:08 -!- tstbtto has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:19:10 !lm * recent god.maxpiety=ru / lair 14:19:11 453/963 milestones for * (recent god.maxpiety=ru): N=453/963 (47.04%) 14:19:28 <|amethyst> ru offerings are based on XP? 14:19:32 !lm * recent god.maxpiety=ru / d lvl<12 14:19:33 94/963 milestones for * (recent god.maxpiety=ru): N=94/963 (9.76%) 14:19:46 hm 14:19:59 <|amethyst> I assume that doesn't care about XL aptitude 14:20:14 !lm * recent god.maxpiety=ru !lair !d s=place 14:20:15 326 milestones for * (recent god.maxpiety=ru !lair !d): 51x Orc:4, 44x Orc:3, 28x Orc:2, 26x Orc:1, 21x IceCv, 9x Vaults:3, 9x Lab, 8x Snake:3, 8x Snake:2, 6x Spider:1, 5x Elf:3, 5x Spider:5, 5x Snake:4, 5x Vaults:4, 5x Vaults:2, 5x Spider:4, 5x Snake:5, 5x Elf:2, 4x Swamp:1, 4x Spider:2, 4x Abyss:1, 4x Swamp:4, 4x Shoals:2, 4x Vaults:1, 4x Vaults:5, 4x Swamp:2, 3x Swamp:5, 3x Spider:3, 3x Abyss:2... 14:20:19 <|amethyst> !lm . god.maxpiety=ru s=place 14:20:20 4 milestones for |amethyst (god.maxpiety=ru): Lair:6, D:11, Lair:2, D:10 14:20:49 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:20:55 oh, it isn't exploration-based? I didn't know 14:21:01 <|amethyst> oh, maybe it is 14:23:12 <|amethyst> oh, exploration and kills 14:23:19 <|amethyst> okay then 14:23:19 yup 14:23:33 the idea is "play crawl for a while" until you get a sacrifice 14:23:42 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:24 !lg * ru s=piety 14:24:25 4998 games for * (ru): 1290x 10, 901x 160, 94x 30, 91x 32, 90x 31, 87x 37, 82x 36, 81x 40, 59x 38, 58x 39, 56x 33, 56x 35, 47x 34, 46x 25, 45x 24, 42x 81, 40x 26, 33x 52, 33x 80, 31x 58, 27x 57, 27x 53, 26x 64, 25x 60, 25x 55, 25x 82, 24x 59, 24x 70, 23x 61, 23x 23, 23x 69, 23x 75, 22x 54, 22x 83, 21x 50, 21x 63, 21x 102, 20x 51, 20x 65, 20x 56, 19x 72, 19x 22, 19x 76, 19x 49, 19x 78, 19x 28, 19x ... 14:24:40 !lg * ru s=xl x=avg(piety) 14:24:41 4998 games for * (ru): 591x 9 [43.83], 582x 10 [56.4], 558x 11 [79.28], 465x 8 [32.49], 416x 7 [26.45], 326x 6 [21.9], 281x 5 [17.14], 265x 27 [159.21], 236x 12 [104.13], 224x 4 [14.21], 181x 13 [125.1], 124x 16 [151.96], 113x 15 [142.58], 111x 14 [139.36], 101x 17 [151.27], 96x 3 [13.06], 59x 18 [154.85], 45x 19 [155.58], 42x 25 [156.64], 33x 26 [158.88], 33x 21 [151.21], 26x 23 [158.69], 24x 20 ... 14:25:00 !lg * ru s=xl x=-avg(piety) 14:25:01 4998 games for * (ru): 96x 3 [13.06], 10x 1 [13.7], 224x 4 [14.21], 14x 2 [15.14], 281x 5 [17.14], 326x 6 [21.9], 416x 7 [26.45], 465x 8 [32.49], 591x 9 [43.83], 582x 10 [56.4], 558x 11 [79.28], 236x 12 [104.13], 181x 13 [125.1], 111x 14 [139.36], 113x 15 [142.58], 23x 22 [148.91], 33x 21 [151.21], 101x 17 [151.27], 124x 16 [151.96], 24x 20 [154.54], 19x 24 [154.58], 59x 18 [154.85], 45x 19 [155.5... 14:25:14 <|amethyst> !lg * ru piety=160 s=xl 14:25:14 901 games for * (ru piety=160): 250x 27, 90x 16, 75x 17, 71x 15, 59x 13, 54x 14, 49x 18, 36x 25, 35x 19, 32x 26, 31x 12, 24x 21, 23x 23, 19x 20, 19x 22, 15x 24, 15x 11, 3x 10, 9 14:25:34 unfortunately milestones don't record your * amount of piety (FR) 14:25:48 <|amethyst> !lm * ru lg:piety=160 s=xl 14:25:52 45757 milestones for * (ru lg:piety=160): 5768x 27, 3929x 15, 3610x 14, 2934x 16, 2751x 13, 2678x 11, 2502x 12, 2473x 17, 2216x 18, 2146x 10, 1881x 9, 1796x 19, 1421x 25, 1310x 8, 1253x 20, 1190x 21, 1150x 22, 1104x 23, 1071x 24, 1027x 26, 675x 7, 383x 6, 214x 5, 180x 4, 78x 3, 17x 2 14:26:02 !lm * god.worship=ru lg:piety=160 s=xl 14:26:02 901 milestones for * (god.worship=ru lg:piety=160): 202x 8, 163x 9, 157x 7, 112x 6, 84x 4, 58x 5, 56x 3, 36x 10, 15x 2, 6x 11, 3x 12, 2x 13, 2x 24, 20, 23, 21, 19, 16 14:26:06 is probably what you wanted 14:26:07 <|amethyst> !lm * ru lg:piety=160 lg:xl>20 !won s=xl 14:26:08 12060 milestones for * (ru lg:piety=160 lg:xl>20 !won): 1564x 27, 993x 15, 831x 17, 823x 16, 797x 18, 766x 14, 727x 19, 563x 13, 529x 20, 496x 11, 479x 12, 454x 21, 424x 22, 421x 10, 406x 25, 375x 23, 343x 24, 309x 26, 304x 9, 213x 8, 121x 7, 59x 6, 26x 5, 21x 4, 15x 3, 2 14:26:13 <|amethyst> oh right 14:26:22 <|amethyst> !lm * god.worship=ru lg:piety=160 lg:xl>20 !won s=xl 14:26:23 173 milestones for * (god.worship=ru lg:piety=160 lg:xl>20 !won): 42x 9, 32x 8, 31x 7, 20x 6, 12x 3, 11x 10, 10x 4, 8x 5, 3x 11, 21, 2, 12, 23 14:26:33 <|amethyst> hm 14:26:35 <+elliptic> the killcounter is broken unfortunately 14:26:48 !lm * noun~~golubria urune=3 won x=lg:kills 14:27:02 yes tentacles too 14:27:04 1. [2012-03-08 16:51:36] [kills=1782] elliptic the Severer (L18 HODK of Jiyva) is cast into the Abyss! (miscasting Passage of Golubria) (Orc:3) 14:27:04 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:27:05 probably other stuff 14:27:08 <|amethyst> !lm * s=verb verb~~sac 14:27:09 11342 milestones for * (verb~~sac): 11342x sacrifice 14:27:11 <|amethyst> !lm * s=verb verb~~reje 14:27:12 No milestones for * (verb~~reje). 14:27:14 <|amethyst> oh 14:27:29 !lm * br.enter=wizlab milestone~~golubria urune=3 won x=avg(lg:kills) 14:27:31 101 milestones for * (br.enter=wizlab milestone~~golubria urune=3 won): avg(kills)=6275.25 14:27:35 !lm * br.enter=wizlab milestone!~~golubria urune=3 won x=avg(lg:kills) 14:27:36 1065 milestones for * (br.enter=wizlab milestone!~~golubria urune=3 won): avg(kills)=5156.64 14:27:38 <|amethyst> maybe we should start logging rejected sacrifices too 14:27:49 <|amethyst> or do we and I just don't know the verb? 14:27:54 we do not 14:28:00 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:29:06 <|amethyst> !lm * god.maxpiety=ru s=xl 14:29:06 963 milestones for * (god.maxpiety=ru): 221x 13, 191x 14, 170x 12, 109x 15, 83x 11, 48x 16, 27x 17, 24x 18, 23x 10, 13x 19, 11x 27, 11x 20, 8x 22, 6x 9, 6x 21, 5x 25, 3x 24, 2x 26, 8, 23 14:29:17 <|amethyst> !lm * god.maxpiety=ru s=place 14:29:18 963 milestones for * (god.maxpiety=ru): 66x Lair:8, 63x Lair:4, 62x Lair:5, 62x Lair:7, 60x Lair:6, 57x Lair:3, 51x Orc:4, 48x Lair:2, 44x Orc:3, 40x D:11, 35x Lair:1, 28x Orc:2, 27x D:13, 26x Orc:1, 26x D:10, 26x D:14, 25x D:12, 21x IceCv, 18x D:9, 12x D:15, 9x Lab, 9x Vaults:3, 8x Snake:3, 8x Snake:2, 7x D:8, 6x Spider:1, 5x Spider:5, 5x Vaults:4, 5x Vaults:2, 5x Elf:3, 5x Elf:2, 5x Snake:4, 5x ... 14:32:17 <|amethyst> elliptic: and, yeah, having lm:pietystars would be nice 14:32:56 or fill the piety field in milestones based on the # of stars? 14:32:56 <|amethyst> elliptic: as usual, new milestones and milestone/logfile fields for tournament banners are an exception to feature freeze 14:33:01 <|amethyst> :) 14:33:37 !lm * ru god.maxpiety s=lg:piety 14:33:38 <|amethyst> wheals: hm... with a representative value (say, the lower bound or the middle of the range)? 14:33:39 963 milestones for * (ru god.maxpiety): 894x 160, 7x 0, 3x 200, 2x 177, 2x 188, 2x 15, 182, 170, 163, 154, 123, 196, 91, 161, 33, 197, 46, 190, 171 14:33:41 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:42 wheals: then you have to remember what the numbers mean 14:33:49 I'd rather just have a new field 14:34:00 a field with a single-digit value is pretty cheap 14:34:04 i was thinking just what piety_breakpoint would say 14:34:06 ok 14:34:15 !lm * ru god.maxpiety lg:piety=15 14:34:16 2. [2015-01-03 01:44:18] hanssangh the Cleaver (L10 DDFi of Ru) became the Champion of Ru on turn 9738. (D:10) 14:34:18 <|amethyst> I guess what wheals suggests would be useful if you wanted to compare lg to lm piety 14:34:30 <|amethyst> but inexact 14:34:32 at the same time, it could be misleading as well 14:34:37 <|amethyst> yeah 14:35:01 !lm * ru god.maxpiety lg:god!=ru won 14:35:04 6. [2015-01-20 20:21:46] Vidiiot the Brawler (L16 TrAs of Ru) became the Champion of Ru on turn 23050. (Snake:5) 14:35:08 <|amethyst> I guess "pietystars" is kind of a long name 14:35:09 |amethyst: yeah, something like pietystars would be fine to add during feature freeze, though I'm not sure it is actually useful for banners 14:35:12 !lm * ru god.maxpiety lg:god!=ru won s=name 14:35:17 6 milestones for * (ru god.maxpiety lg:god!=ru won): lakren, were, antiskillrobin, elmdor, Wolfechu, Vidiiot 14:35:22 not bad 14:35:22 |amethyst: "stars" 14:35:33 <|amethyst> "pst" 14:35:33 |amethyst: "pie" 14:35:36 i guess i don't know whether any abandoned on the D:1 stairs 14:36:01 <|amethyst> elliptic: "*" 14:36:24 sequell might not like that one 14:36:40 <|amethyst> ★ might work better 14:36:57 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:36:58 IMO someone should tell me a name/sentence for this banner 14:36:58 * wheals gives |amethyst a gold ★ 14:37:06 <|amethyst> but I guess is as long as "pie" so... 14:37:55 <|amethyst> Not a http://www.snopes.com/horrors/drugs/bluestar.asp ? 14:37:57 |amethyst: uft-32_reasons? 14:38:42 Brink of Enlightenment 14:39:20 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:31 Vehumet wants to reward those who destroy themselves before they destroy others. 14:41:58 oh, I assumed this was actually going to be the Ru banner :P 14:42:17 . . . it's a bit weird for Ru to want you to abandon Ru 14:42:34 But, if so: 14:43:02 well, lugonu tells you to abandon lots of gods and trog tells you to go atheist 14:43:04 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:10 "Ru appreciates those with the awareness to understand that they are not ready for enlightenment." 14:43:23 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:43:38 I'm okay with it being the veh banner though if you prefer, I'd say it is about equally weird 14:43:42 :shrug: 14:43:44 I don't really care 14:44:06 go with whichever one we can come up w/ better flavor for 14:44:20 note that tier I is just "become the champion of Ru" though 14:44:27 true 14:44:59 IMO if it is veh then the description should include a line about how vehumet hates ru or something 14:45:26 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:45:37 If so, Tier I doesn't make much sense 14:45:41 true 14:47:19 . . . I kinda like the bit about destroying the self first. It jibes with what the banner is asking you to do. 14:48:06 "Vehumet will reward those who destroy themselves before they destroy others with the BRINK OF ENLIGHTENMENT banner. For this tournament, Vehumet's chosen method of self-destruction is worshipping the god Ru." 14:48:49 Works for me. 14:49:01 elliptic: would the tourney scripts be able to look for a sac xp milestone associated with that game for an XL-based banner? and just mention that using it disqualifies the game from the banner? 14:49:15 wheals: good idea 14:49:58 we don't currently have an XL-based banner but I'd be happy to see one in place of the current Lugonu banner (which was very unpopular in the last tourney) 14:50:04 i guess the question is whether would it really be all that different from the turn-based banners 14:50:19 er, banner? don't remember all of them 14:50:30 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:52 we don't really have one aside from the "win in under 50k turns" oka banner 14:50:56 oh, i was thinking speed demon was turns 14:51:02 but i see, it's time 14:52:06 did I read that we might be tagging 0.16 this coming Saturday? 14:52:13 I guess another option would be to give lugonu the sacrifice banner (Lugonu hates all the other gods, but especially hates the upstart god Ru...) 14:52:56 could be veh "kill everything without even stopping to level up" or ru "go forth without relying on the unnecessary" 14:53:12 (xl one) 14:53:29 IMO extra points if the "Ruthless Efficiency" name still works for Veh 14:54:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:09 -!- Dunsworth has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:57:26 huh, so this is the first stable release with wellsprings 14:57:27 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:59:25 !lg * ikiller=elemental_wellspring 14:59:26 78. whales2 the Archmage (L27 DEFE of Sif Muna), slain by a water elemental (summoned by an elemental wellspring) on Coc:7 (coc_dpeg) on 2014-09-29 05:50:08, with 774611 points after 167609 turns and 8:36:21. 14:59:36 !lg * ikiller=elemental_wellspring t 14:59:37 No games for * (ikiller=elemental_wellspring t). 14:59:49 !lg * ikiller=elemental_wellspring t0.14 14:59:50 No games for * (ikiller=elemental_wellspring t0.14). 15:00:00 hm 15:01:37 -!- Sczcya has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:50 whats the RC command to show MR++ rF++ etc in monster descriptions, rather than the verbose descs? Searched through my RC but cant find it 15:04:54 -!- Sczcya has left ##crawl-dev 15:05:41 it doesn't exist 15:05:49 !lm * recent rune s=xl x=-min(xl) 15:05:51 105849 milestones for * (recent rune): 2x 1 [1], 8 [8], 9 [9], 10 [10], 7x 11 [11], 63x 12 [12], 139x 13 [13], 502x 14 [14], 1507x 15 [15], 5365x 16 [16], 12762x 17 [17], 13812x 18 [18], 9048x 19 [19], 4519x 20 [20], 3243x 21 [21], 3360x 22 [22], 3640x 23 [23], 4021x 24 [24], 4184x 25 [25], 3936x 26 [26], 35736x 27 [27] 15:06:01 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=xl x=-min(xl) 15:06:03 91356 milestones for * (recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 10 [10], 4x 11 [11], 41x 12 [12], 71x 13 [13], 391x 14 [14], 1405x 15 [15], 5255x 16 [16], 12568x 17 [17], 13590x 18 [18], 8721x 19 [19], 4086x 20 [20], 2747x 21 [21], 2658x 22 [22], 2683x 23 [23], 2765x 24 [24], 2725x 25 [25], 2421x 26 [26], 29224x 27 [27] 15:06:11 !lm * recent rune xl=1 15:06:12 2. [2015-03-01 19:22:44] mauris the Ducker (L1 SpAK of Lugonu) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 315. (Abyss:4) 15:06:14 mm 15:06:26 !lm * recent rune xl=1 -game 15:06:26 mauris:cxc:20150201183323S. mauris the Ducker (L3 SpAK of Lugonu), quit the game on D:1 (dpeg_arrival_stonehenge_12_columns) on 2015-03-02 17:01:56, with 13032 points after 1421 turns and 0:13:51. 15:06:44 !lg * recent won s=xl x=-min(xl) 15:06:45 8794 games for * (recent won): 17 [17], 18 [18], 4x 19 [19], 8x 20 [20], 16x 21 [21], 54x 22 [22], 85x 23 [23], 203x 24 [24], 420x 25 [25], 754x 26 [26], 7248x 27 [27] 15:07:32 still not sure what tier I should be for xl banner 15:07:57 XL <= 12 for rune and XL <= 18 for win maybe 15:08:04 !lm * br.end=lair s=-xl 15:08:07 159337 milestones for * (br.end=lair): 3x 1, 3x 4, 4x 3, 4x 2, 4x 7, 5x 5, 6x 6, 11x 8, 16x 26, 22x 25, 33x 24, 33x 23, 36x 27, 48x 9, 54x 22, 88x 21, 117x 20, 199x 19, 335x 10, 373x 18, 778x 17, 2312x 16, 2382x 11, 9918x 15, 20949x 12, 46639x 14, 74965x 13 15:08:23 good 27s 15:08:33 !lm * recent br.end=lair s=-xl 15:08:35 53085 milestones for * (recent br.end=lair): 8, 1, 6, 2x 26, 2x 7, 3x 23, 5x 24, 5x 27, 6x 25, 8x 9, 9x 22, 13x 21, 17x 20, 49x 19, 98x 10, 102x 18, 221x 17, 563x 11, 880x 16, 2679x 12, 4970x 15, 21628x 13, 21822x 14 15:08:38 !lm * br.enter=lair recent s=xl x=-min(xl) 15:08:41 91867 milestones for * (br.enter=lair recent): 10x 1 [1], 3x 2 [2], 3x 3 [3], 2x 4 [4], 9x 5 [5], 34x 6 [6], 80x 7 [7], 541x 8 [8], 6771x 9 [9], 31595x 10 [10], 36751x 11 [11], 11257x 12 [12], 3392x 13 [13], 1172x 14 [14], 194x 15 [15], 30x 16 [16], 13x 17 [17], 3x 18 [18], 2x 19 [19], 20 [20], 2x 21 [21], 2x 22 [22] 15:08:57 !lm !nooodl br.enter=lair recent s=xl x=-min(xl) 15:09:01 91843 milestones for nooodl (br.enter=lair recent): 3x 2 [2], 3x 3 [3], 2x 4 [4], 9x 5 [5], 32x 6 [6], 80x 7 [7], 540x 8 [8], 6769x 9 [9], 31591x 10 [10], 36747x 11 [11], 11256x 12 [12], 3392x 13 [13], 1172x 14 [14], 194x 15 [15], 30x 16 [16], 13x 17 [17], 3x 18 [18], 2x 19 [19], 20 [20], 2x 21 [21], 2x 22 [22] 15:09:13 :P 15:10:04 !lm * god.maxpiety recent s=xl x=-min(xl) 15:10:06 63847 milestones for * (god.maxpiety recent): 6 [6], 20x 7 [7], 232x 8 [8], 1608x 9 [9], 6194x 10 [10], 12596x 11 [11], 13307x 12 [12], 11799x 13 [13], 8654x 14 [14], 4330x 15 [15], 1301x 16 [16], 470x 17 [17], 271x 18 [18], 187x 19 [19], 169x 20 [20], 132x 21 [21], 149x 22 [22], 171x 23 [23], 220x 24 [24], 281x 25 [25], 297x 26 [26], 1458x 27 [27] 15:10:35 !lm * uniq=sigmund recent s=xl x=-min(xl) 15:10:37 81884 milestones for * (uniq=sigmund recent): 131x 1 [1], 2024x 2 [2], 11050x 3 [3], 14552x 4 [4], 11541x 5 [5], 9631x 6 [6], 10666x 7 [7], 12557x 8 [8], 8201x 9 [9], 900x 10 [10], 138x 11 [11], 65x 12 [12], 70x 13 [13], 82x 14 [14], 49x 15 [15], 26x 16 [16], 12x 17 [17], 22x 18 [18], 27x 19 [19], 19x 20 [20], 27x 21 [21], 10x 22 [22], 6x 23 [23], 2x 24 [24], 6x 25 [25], 8x 26 [26], 62x 27 [27] 15:11:03 not really liking any of these that much 15:13:37 "kill sigmund at XL <= 27" 15:15:57 ? 15:16:13 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:25 -!- link_1081 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:18:55 !tell pleasingfungus thoughts on replacing "This spell will have no effect right now: You're too dead." with "This spell will have no effect right now because you're too dead.", and so on? The colon feels really awkward... 15:18:56 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 15:48:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:52:00 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:40 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52:49 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:53:17 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54:16 uh 15:54:31 am I supposed to releare spores when I pray as a mushroom 15:54:35 _You release spores on the altar of Cheibriados! 15:56:43 also this is bugged 15:57:08 at 0 piety as cheibrite when I try to see the godscreen it tells me that I have no powers granted 15:57:19 but I have bend time 15:57:19 http://prntscr.com/6by7tj 15:57:47 put it on mantis 16:01:01 I have no account here 16:01:16 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:03:02 i'll make a note, then 16:03:10 or maybe someone will beat me to a commit 16:03:21 thanks :) 16:04:55 i think fixing that for chei is awkward because 0* abilities are implemented in terrible hacky ways 16:05:22 arguably, it's more that all abilities are 16:05:37 even more terrible and hacky, then :P 16:13:38 static void marshallString2(writer &th, const string &data) { marshallString(th, data); } 16:13:43 i... what 16:14:03 (ok, there's a comment that explains this silliness) 16:14:15 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:14:26 there's also a marshallString4, but no marshallString3 16:14:38 <|amethyst> 2 and 4 byte size 16:15:30 ah, and 4 is used, just not in tags.cc 16:15:32 <|amethyst> marshallStringh and marshallStringl 16:16:22 <|amethyst> marshallString could change to marshallString4 on compat break 16:16:29 <|amethyst> but marshallString2 is needed for the stuff in tags.cc 16:16:41 yeah, that's the comment i was talking about 16:17:02 to maintain forward compatibility (and backwards past the major break) 16:18:49 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:22:07 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:22:46 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:25:44 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 16:27:34 -!- Culey has quit [] 16:27:35 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4090-g420112e: Disable Zot Defence 10(11 days ago, 3 files, 4+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=420112e72d47 16:28:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4129-gf61b8f8: Update some tutorial messages 10(26 hours ago, 2 files, 25+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f61b8f86792d 16:28:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4130-g1c893b6: Update some hints mode messages 10(23 hours ago, 2 files, 28+ 47-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c893b668a4e 16:28:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4131-g7b63d66: Mention Bend Time on ^ when worshipping Chei (Tuxi[Qyou]) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b63d66adf7c 16:28:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4133-g472b14a: Merge branch 'zotdef_removal' 10(60 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=472b14a862f3 16:29:28 Tux[Qyou]: thanks for the report, sorry i typoed your name there and realised just as i pushed :P 16:29:54 MarvinPA: no problem. x) 16:30:24 I guess there was never a final decision wrt release date 16:30:24 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:31:13 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:54 !tell mrwooster That sounds great, thanks a lot! I'll need to figure out what is the best procedure for building the js client and the js game in terms of our Makefile 16:31:54 gammafunk: OK, I'll let mrwooster know. 16:34:12 !tell mrwooster We have two targets in the Makefile, minify-client and minify-game, and we'll need two targets since admins need to be able to update the crawl game (and use minify-game) seperately from updating webtiles (where they use minify-client) 16:34:13 gammafunk: OK, I'll let mrwooster know. 16:35:41 !tell mrwooster So we need to figure out how to move to running npm or the appropriate tool over nodejs for minification while keeping this seperation between updating the game (which happens every day) and updating webtiles (which happens infrequently) 16:35:42 gammafunk: OK, I'll let mrwooster know. 16:36:31 !seen ontoclasm 16:36:31 I last saw ontoclasm at Sun Mar 1 23:52:33 2015 UTC (22h 43m 58s ago) saying 'ok, i'll be back later; send me any other revisions you do' on ##crawl-dev. 16:44:36 -!- coffee` has quit [Quit: coffee`] 16:49:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:52 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:49:53 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:34 !source marshallString2 16:56:34 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:56:34 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tags.cc;hb=HEAD#l842 16:57:08 !tell tux[qyou] the spore thing while praying is intentional, yes (if very silly) 16:57:08 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let tux[qyou] know. 16:57:57 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:59:35 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:48 minmay: wrt piety for 2 slime creatures vs 1 lg: I doubt they'd be equal, and I have no idea how you'd go about fixing that 17:01:05 I did make the *xp* equal a while back, but that was much simpler 17:02:04 gammafunk: wrt release, I was actually going to announce a date yesterday, but I checked and we didn't announce anything before we had a 'beta' release available 17:02:13 some binaries & available on a subset of servers 17:03:25 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:04:30 but you could announce it to give people time to run gofundmes for bribing good players to be on their clan 17:06:03 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 17:06:18 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:06:40 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 17:07:22 Everyone needs to just deal with the fact that you can't bribe me to be on your team 17:09:23 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 17:09:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:11:00 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-4133-g472b14a (34) 17:11:36 but can you be bribed... off a team??? 17:11:38 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:12:31 you'd bride the 0.15 tourney HESu high score holder off you're team are you crazy?! 17:12:46 no, I'd bribe you off every other team 17:14:01 I carried the team last year: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/clans/wheals.html 17:15:01 !tell wheals patches welcome 17:15:01 chequers: OK, I'll let wheals know. 17:16:36 http://puu.sh/gjUoq/804d0ae493.png 17:16:42 updated dragons 17:17:24 -!- pikaro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:33 think I'm going to move on to something else now 17:17:42 that helped with the chest area, looks real nice 17:17:44 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:19:46 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:06 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:07 The build was broken. (master - 472b14a #1872 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/52816224 17:21:07 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:26:47 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:32:59 -!- FierceOmelette has quit [Quit: :wqa[ll]!] 17:35:51 gammafunk: as part of your webtiles js rewrite, do you plan to support mouse input? 17:36:19 that'd be in the game, which my near-term stuff is just the client 17:36:30 certainly would be nice to have 17:39:32 well, you need js code to detect clicks, right? 17:40:49 well there are events for that, which is well supported in both jquery and react 17:41:05 *DOM events 17:41:21 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41:29 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:37 there is some mouse support in the game, after all. you can click and drag the minimap window as a spectator 17:41:47 oh reallllly 17:41:50 and I think there's some hilighting in menus 17:42:30