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Small bug I want to raise 04:04:55 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:04:59 This issue is, if the term is not found, the API returns the string “Not Found”, but also has the header Content-Type: application/json… this is an invalid response, as the returned text is not valid JSON (the library I am currently using attempts to parse responses which are JSON and is erroring). 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(fr bring back &Y) 09:25:59 MarvinPA: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:28:11 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:28:37 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:31:41 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:35:47 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:39:00 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:48:19 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:51 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:34 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:57:45 -!- endou________ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57:45 -!- SOUP_TO_GO has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:58 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:07:21 ArcaneRedneck (L16 TrMo) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 114: ZotDef: monster wight failed to pathfind to (39,12) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 10:15:08 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:19:47 -!- SomeStupidGuy has 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monster basilisk failed to pathfind to (39,12) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 11:03:59 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:04:57 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:06:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:26 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:47 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:24:12 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4056-gee4db93 (34) 11:28:33 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 11:29:34 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4057-ga8d7a6d: Update hydra description for short blade changes (magicpoints) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8d7a6dea822 11:29:57 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33:00 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:03 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:31 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:38:03 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:38 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 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again 13:43:32 <|amethyst> for some reason when that happens with CPO it fails to timeout 13:43:45 <|amethyst> elsewhere it times out fine 13:44:02 thats weird 13:44:53 -!- DrKe is now known as UltimateDgWn 13:46:17 -!- UltimateDgWn is now known as DrKe 13:49:55 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:27 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:25 <|amethyst> NilsBloodaxe: scores are updating now, will take an hour or two to regenerate all the player pages 13:55:35 cool 13:55:42 just thought i would report it 13:55:46 in case no one else did 13:56:20 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:46 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:57:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:27 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:59:28 -!- comebackshane has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:39 Why can one wield things like beef jerkies? 14:02:56 -!- comebackshane has quit [Client Quit] 14:04:01 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:04:32 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:59 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:41 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:07:44 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:08:32 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:44 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:09:19 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:59 -!- stevee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:14:26 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18:17 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 14:21:51 -!- emeraldemon has quit [Quit: emeraldemon] 14:23:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-4058-ga3e9557: Don't word wrap in the line reader. 10(53 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3e955742833 14:23:41 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:23:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:25:46 03MarvinPA02 07[gozag_wrath] * 0.16-a0-4016-gaf3f15d: Display when potion petition is free in the extended desc 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af3f15d81393 14:34:28 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:37:04 -!- tv1990 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:42:33 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43:57 -!- staplegun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:44 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:51:14 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-4059-gb9776b0: Don't crash when instakilling TSO summons (#9233) 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9776b0ddc91 14:55:03 -!- DrStalker has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:56:18 fr: enchant weapon while wielding food makes it +1 food 14:56:37 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 15:03:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:31 !lg tstbtto s=class 15:03:31 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:03:31 200 games for tstbtto: 183x Berserker, 12x Abyssal Knight, 4x Chaos Knight, Fighter 15:03:43 !lg tstbtto 15:03:43 200. tstbtto the Cleaver (L10 DDCK of Xom), slain by a six-headed hydra (kmap: hangedman_ranch) on D:8 on 2015-02-20 21:01:31, with 4691 points after 5987 turns and 0:06:39. 15:03:58 !nick @bots 15:03:58 No nick mapping for @bots. 15:04:00 !nick @bot 15:04:01 No nick mapping for @bot. 15:04:04 !nick bot 15:04:04 Mapping bot => autorobin xw auto7hm rw qw ow qwrobin gw notqw jw parabodrick hyperqwbe cashybrid tstbtto parabolic oppbolic 15:04:19 ah, he's already on there 15:04:21 neat 15:05:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 15:05:59 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-4060-g00983b4: Don't crash when a raiju dies during blinkbolt (#9297) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=00983b437630 15:12:12 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:00 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:22:02 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:06 -!- Guest5715 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:44 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 15:27:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:36:32 -!- mars___ has quit [Client Quit] 15:38:49 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:49 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:41:58 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I'm assuming it was because it might place you on or near the orb. 16:32:43 <|amethyst> Lasty: in general, shafts are not allowed to branch ends that are harder than the rest of the branch 16:33:07 <|amethyst> it's just as much to protect the player from being shafted into a situation they are completely unprepared for 16:33:23 <|amethyst> as opposed to one they were just ordinarily unprepared for :) 16:33:53 ok 16:33:54 thanks 16:35:50 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:16 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47:25 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:11 -!- comebackshane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:50:29 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:20 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:53:54 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:56:40 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:01 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:01:36 -!- gressup has quit [Client Quit] 17:06:39 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-4060-g00983b4 (34) 17:07:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:10:50 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:04 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4009-g0b03098: Remove goldification and gold taxes from Gozag wrath 10(6 days ago, 5 files, 2+ 97-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b03098510a6 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4010-g0bf9e2d: Extend Ashenzari's wrath model to be usable by other gods, apply it to Gozag 10(6 days ago, 10 files, 84+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bf9e2dbea75 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4011-gdd22dfc: Let Gozag bribe most monsters during wrath 10(6 days ago, 4 files, 42+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd22dfce1c5b 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4012-g174c7c4: Disable Gozag Duplication 10(6 days ago, 3 files, 0+ 59-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=174c7c4a655f 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4013-g98cecd0: Update Gozag descriptions 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=98cecd072e8f 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4014-gbeb5f6f: Make Gozag's potion-blocking wrath effect more likely to trigger 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=beb5f6f36e72 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4015-g3282c3a: Make the first usage of Gozag's potion petition free 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 22+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3282c3ad3460 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4016-gaf3f15d: Display when potion petition is free in the extended desc 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af3f15d81393 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4069-g9e2f9fc: Merge branch 'gozag_wrath' 10(2 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e2f9fc3b4bf 17:16:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4070-g54f8005: Correctly display Gozag penance on Ctrl-O 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=54f8005057d8 17:17:31 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:25:41 -!- weezeface has quit [Client Quit] 17:27:14 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: am I missing something? the condition on those "Free"s looks backwards 17:27:58 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 17:29:11 <|amethyst> err, not backwards 17:29:15 get_gold_cost returns 0 for the first potion petition, so for abilities with a fixed gold cost it displays that number, for potion petition with 0 cost it displays "free", otherwise it displays "variable" or something like that 17:29:25 <|amethyst> oh 17:29:27 <|amethyst> sorry 17:29:32 <|amethyst> missed the if (amount) 17:29:49 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:45 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:19 <|amethyst> on my first glance I read ATTR_GOZAG_FIRST_POTION as ABIL_GOZAG_FIRST_POTION 17:32:53 <|amethyst> which then confused me when I saw the else if (ability == ABIL_GOZAG_POTION_PETITION 17:37:28 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:41:56 omg 17:41:58 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:02 that was quite the MPA storm 17:42:47 -!- Mottikins__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:19 8 feet of mpa in February alone. It's a new east coast record. 17:45:38 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:47:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:49:15 -!- Misder has quit [Client Quit] 17:50:00 -!- mauris has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:50:04 <|amethyst> only the last 2 are new commits :) 17:50:44 <|amethyst> but Chei isn't smart enough to exclude commits that have appeared on different branches 17:51:16 <|amethyst> %git gozag_wrath 17:51:17 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-4016-gaf3f15d: Display when potion petition is free in the extended desc 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af3f15d81393 17:51:21 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^^2 17:51:21 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-4016-gaf3f15d: Display when potion petition is free in the extended desc 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af3f15d81393 17:53:50 hrm 17:53:55 %git HEAD^2 17:53:55 Could not find commit HEAD^2 (git returned 128) 17:53:58 %git HEAD~2 17:53:58 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-4060-g00983b4: Don't crash when a raiju dies during blinkbolt (#9297) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=00983b437630 17:54:17 <|amethyst> ^2 means "the second commit on the parent list" 17:54:21 I may have my understanding of git commit operators... 17:54:30 <|amethyst> ~2 means "the parent of the parent" 17:54:37 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 17:54:37 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-4069-g9e2f9fc: Merge branch 'gozag_wrath' 10(40 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e2f9fc3b4bf 17:54:43 <|amethyst> is a merge so has two parents 17:54:49 ah right 17:55:32 |amethyst: hrm, when you say second commit on the parent list, does this mean essentially, the second commit in the pair for e.g. a merge commit with two parents? 17:55:40 -!- mauris_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:55 and then I suppose the first is designate "the" parent? 17:56:00 <|amethyst> yes 17:56:00 *first in the pair 17:56:09 well that makes more sense now 17:57:20 Grunt: I've been playing these abortive Wr to get to the new transloc spells and go for singularity, but I'll be damned if it's terribly viable to go for these spells 17:58:04 I can make it work by doing a strong species like Hu or HE of sif and leveling int, but it's not the best thing ever... 17:58:20 I guess it'd be nice if maybe vehumet ....oh does he support singularity? 17:58:21 It doesn't help that both reasons to get high Translocations are in the same book 17:58:27 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4071-g68d9c7e: Remove a duplicate faun spellbook (elliptic) 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=68d9c7ee49a6 17:58:34 ??book_of_the_warp 17:58:34 book of the warp[1/1]: Recall, Control Teleport, Phase Shift, Warp Weapon, Dispersal, Controlled Blink, Disjunction. In 0.16, Recall, Control Teleport, Phase Shift, Warp Weapon, Summon Forest. 17:58:42 ??....er 17:58:43 I don't have a page labeled ....er in my learndb. 17:58:49 what's that new one called 17:58:54 ??akashic record 17:58:54 ?/_record 17:58:55 akashic record[1/1]: Dispersal, Controlled Blink, Malign Gateway, Disjunction, Singularity. Requires 6 spellcasting and 10 translocations to memorize spells out of this book. 17:58:55 No matches. 17:58:55 ??akashic 17:58:55 I don't have a page labeled akashic in my learndb. 17:58:56 ty 17:59:27 <|amethyst> �learn add akrasiac_record http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/top-N.html 17:59:27 Okay, not adding akrasiac_record => http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/top-N.html 18:00:21 has anyone else used singularity much? 18:00:42 akrashic record? 18:00:44 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:01:03 geekosaur: it's a....well it's a dad joke 18:01:41 i used it a bit and was underwhelmed (and also don't really like the whole concept of giving tloc a direct damage l9 spell) 18:02:44 yeah 18:03:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:03:36 It bothered me that Wr didn't really have a meaningful progression to getting that much transloc after singularity was added, but maybe that's not really the issue 18:04:00 We do have other high level transloc, but I don't think those get a lot of use either :p 18:04:07 specifically thinking of disjunction I guess 18:04:12 cblink does 18:04:36 sure, it does, but it's a long way from ...well it is L7 now 18:04:45 it used to be L6, so like 12-14 transloc 18:04:50 versus 20-22 for singularity 18:05:12 it's level 8 18:05:34 I'm talking cblink, in response to lasty 18:05:39 oh right 18:05:40 unless that is now L8?! 18:05:42 oh ok 18:06:26 -!- Basil_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:07:45 MarvinPA: would you like it more if singularity was conj/transloc and perhaps was more effective? 18:10:28 i don't think i'd be super excited by that really, l9 direct damage spells seems like a niche that is pretty full already 18:12:06 I wonder what grunt would think about it being some kind of unique effect, like on a card 18:12:30 Lasty: +Snglrty 18:13:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:13:37 it could work on a card maybe, yeah 18:13:56 just scaling aoe and duration by card power or something 18:14:16 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:12 Level 8 + conj seems more interesting to me 18:17:44 gammafunk: Implementing it now. 18:17:58 -!- hy-on-github has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:18 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:26:57 -!- hy-on-github has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:15 -!- Annabella has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:34:52 -!- tv1990 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:35:32 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 18:36:31 -!- eb has quit [] 18:37:18 -!- Annabella has quit [Excess Flood] 18:44:08 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:45:13 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:02 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:53:13 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:58:40 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:29 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:03:02 "What I, and I think a lot of people are arguing for, is that it would be better to have a single roll (or similar), do 1dX for damage, and have the average actually be the mean." 19:04:03 if singularity becomes L8 conj/tloc then there is room for a L9 tloc spell that turns squarelos into diamondlos (requires squarelos) 19:04:06 that thread, all its related threads, make me so sad 19:04:57 <|amethyst> gah 19:05:03 <|amethyst> I clicked on thank instead of reply... 19:05:12 but did you post about it???? 19:05:14 <|amethyst> and then decided I didn't want to reply after all 19:05:14 lol 19:05:15 I'll fix this by deleting the post 19:05:58 lotta tavern gold today... 19:06:44 I do wish you could delete your thanks somehow 19:06:50 does my anydice program make you sad too 19:06:50 it's an annoying misclick thing 19:06:51 is it just me, or has tavern been particularly full of people vigorously defending terrible ideas recently? 19:06:52 we could all thank it in tandem so it looks more like ironic thanks 19:06:53 it sure makes me sad 19:07:01 Lasty: no, it was always like this 19:07:13 Lasty: have you seen scroll of inversion, or any danr thread 19:07:20 it offends me on some deep level that people continue to post simulations instead of just sitting down with maple or whoever and figuring out some expectation and variance functions 19:07:26 minmay: not that I recall 19:07:48 Lasty: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2140 enjoy 19:08:27 sounds unikely 19:08:32 unlikely 19:08:49 lol, tasonir just ninja edited the post to correct his median...which is still wrong 19:09:03 * Regeneration <=> Deterioration 19:09:03 * Regeneration <=> +MP Regen 19:09:07 this is a good thread 19:09:31 Invisibility <=> See invisible 19:10:14 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:11:51 -!- hy-on-github has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:21 so yeah, that's pretty terrible, and there's a lot of people not listening. I feel like it's still not as bad as mps, tho. 19:19:14 <|amethyst> http://www.destructoid.com/vogel-game-developers-shouldn-t-read-their-own-forums-190943.phtml 19:19:39 <|amethyst> sorry, that was a response 19:19:49 <|amethyst> the original: http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.com/2011/01/three-reasons-creators-should-never.html 19:25:57 it's funny because I feel we do a pretty good job on the dev team of reading the forums and gettig constructive stuff from them 19:26:11 but I thinks that's because this is just a hobby and not a means of making money 19:26:16 I still don't like that article 19:26:43 yeah, I mean I've learned just tons about "game design" by reading the forum 19:26:55 but seriously, how do you compute a median wrong 3 times in a row, in seemingly 3 different ways 19:27:39 I could fully understand any dev opting not to read the forum, but tavern would suffer for losing out on your posts 19:27:40 minmay: http://stuartspencestuff.blogspot.com/2015/02/many-mcgill-education-students-cannot.html like this 19:27:46 well to be fair, the mean is easier to compute for distributions 19:28:34 i'm sorry we're not all mathematicians 19:28:37 the second two times the mean was THE SAME AS THE MEDIAN 19:28:40 (the article I linked is completely irrelevant it's all in the headline) 19:29:15 it's so embarassing that everyone doesn't know everything about mathematical probabilities 19:29:41 minmay: to be fair, it's harder to calculate the median of a distribution in general than it is the mean 19:30:36 n1k: yeah, there's a few people I ignore on tavern like bcadren, that guy who posts videos of himself punching kittens, and that n1000 guy who likes hero movies way too excessively 19:30:41 that last guy is the absolute worst 19:30:44 gammafunk: did you read the post? the mean being the same as the median was the crux of his proposal 19:31:07 oh I didn't read that he was writing about a dist where that is true 19:31:44 gammafunk: n1000 is a major edgelord but thanking his posts quickly is a good way to get major credibility with the crawl superplayer community: imo 19:31:51 n1k: ic 19:32:09 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:32:18 you can get negative credibility in the crawl community by thanking duvessa's posts, just saying 19:32:20 reading the forums as a single dev is a bad idea 19:32:42 as a single dev? look, not all of us have significant others 19:32:43 if you're over nine different people then it's a bit better 19:32:45 that's discriminatory 19:33:03 i miss cuddling with my cat 19:33:11 especially when none can truly take all blame for something in something as huge as crawl 19:33:19 none of my human friends want to cuddle 19:33:22 <|amethyst> Most of us are only two or three people max 19:33:42 i'd hope most of you are a singular entities 19:33:46 |amethyst is many! 19:33:50 schizophrenia is a serious mental condition 19:34:08 <|amethyst> fortunately it's a completely different one from dissociative identity disorder 19:34:15 <|amethyst> so I'm in the clear! 19:35:14 it's still sad though 19:35:41 <|amethyst> /nick SybilOfCumae 19:37:01 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:37:27 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:34 anyway for anyone who doesn't want to read the thread here's a summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOhSLCIVHUY 19:40:55 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:42:19 -!- Hurts has quit [Client Quit] 19:43:48 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:37 gammafunk: okay this player glyph thing is the best new feature 19:47:47 ...player tile? 19:47:47 *player tile 19:47:50 ah ok 19:47:52 have you seen 19:47:55 ??randomtiles 19:47:55 randomtiles[1/2]: Randomly change the player tile to various cool monsters tiles. See instructions/code at https://github.com/gammafunk/RandomTiles. 19:48:18 heh this is good 19:48:25 many find it somewhat hard to use if they actually use tiles 19:48:36 but I play console and spectate my game in webtiles a lot 19:49:23 mostly I enjoy when people say things like "why is Zin polymorphing you?" and I begin with something like "well it's a new Zin ability in trunk" 19:49:28 and I see how long I can string them along 19:50:10 So that's why you implemented it! :D 19:50:41 basil's tile is literally a plant 19:50:49 heh, yeah 19:50:59 another good option: burning bush 19:54:42 -!- Umbreoni has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:46 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:58:29 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:59:49 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:59:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:56 -!- speranza_ is now known as speranza 20:05:46 MarvinPA: Would you object to me changing "petitions for your drink to fail" to "turns your potion to gold as you drink it", something like that? (almost entirely a flavor change - I'd want to get the wording better than that, at least) 20:06:46 the problem with that is that it sounds like you'll lose the potion, which you don't currently 20:07:08 oh 20:07:13 right I also wanted to do that, I guess 20:07:16 so not a flavor change 20:07:17 so then it gets weird with stuff like !xp 20:07:21 mm 20:07:23 also lets you quaff junk potions for free gold 20:07:35 ok, I'll drop it. 20:07:56 -!- titanjones has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:08:15 i do think the current wording is sort of lame and it'd be nice to change it somehow, but the midas thing just seems more problematic unfortunately 20:09:15 tbh I was more concerned about people using low-value consumables to reduce wrath. but I guess you changed that? 20:09:34 yeah, wrath is just reduced by xp gain now, it's like ash 20:09:37 mm 20:09:45 and for the duration your potions just have a chance to fail 20:15:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-4072-gc5a8185: Tweak hydra description 10(60 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5a818527555 20:15:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:16:58 PF 20:17:01 did the crab thing happen? 20:19:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:20:39 DAMN YOU PF 20:21:13 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:27:59 -!- ayayaya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:29:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:29:20 -!- Yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:30:18 -!- ayayaya has quit [Client Quit] 20:31:57 -!- ayayaya has joined ##crawl-dev 20:32:56 im at tartarus:7 as a vscj of wulndraste (got the rune, explored everywhere) but wulndraste doesn't want me to go up stairs. 20:32:58 is this intended behavior? 20:35:16 nope 20:35:22 That's definitely not intended 20:35:42 welp 20:35:55 I need to take a look at that again -- I have had a really hard time reproducing it 20:35:55 sorry ;( 20:36:07 s/;/:/ 20:36:24 i didnt explore all of tartarus 1-6 20:36:32 is that a possible cause? 20:36:59 also, if i go upstairs again (to leave hell), is my penance increased again? 20:37:01 I don't think so, but I could be mistaken 20:37:16 It shouldn't be 20:37:22 but it'll warn you if it is 20:37:25 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:38:43 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39:39 no additional penance for leaving hell. ill post here if something else unusual happens 20:40:57 ayayaya: thanks! 20:42:39 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:44:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:15 -!- tstbtto has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:52:56 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:53:18 is wulndraste penance decreased based on exploring? 20:53:55 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:31 also, it can be a bit annoying to find the small area i missed on a floor 20:54:51 if i cast freezing cloud on an enemy 20:55:20 and the enemy gets killed 20:55:21 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:19 and if the fog of war still has the freezing cloud sprite covering where the enemy's corpse is 20:56:42 i can't hit "o" and auto explore to that spot to see what's on the ground 20:57:20 so i have to hunt around trying to see where that spot is 20:58:06 ayayaya: penance decreases each time you explore a new level 20:58:33 ayayaya: you probably lose more piety to piety decay than you gain by exploring every bit of a level 20:59:59 i should've mentioned that wuln doesn't want me to go upstairs in this situation 21:00:05 its happened to me in vaults:5 before 21:00:54 unless im mistaken, in addition to seeing all reachable areas in a level, wuln also cares about seeing all the items that have been left on the ground 21:01:45 im playing on cbro, in case that version is out of date 21:02:35 ayayaya: Seeing every corner of the level should never impact whether Wuln is happy about you retreating -- it's supposed to key off down stair and rune exploration/reachability. 21:02:46 Does it work for you to explore the full level? 21:02:51 (that would be really weird) 21:05:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:07:45 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:57 for vaults, when i got the rune and had seen every reachable tile, wuln didnt want me to go upstairs 21:09:04 once i went to the area that auto explore wouldn't let me walk onto 21:09:19 since it remembered there being freezing cloud in that area 21:09:34 and stood on that area 21:09:47 then wuln let me leave 21:12:19 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:26:46 ayayaya: hmm. That's very odd. Maybe that'll help me track down the issue. 21:26:47 Thanks! 21:27:04 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:27:31 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:28:38 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:03 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:35:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:08 -!- ayayaya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:46:19 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:50 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:32 AtomikKrab: I sincerely do not remember what the crab thing is 21:49:35 !seen |amethyst 21:49:36 I last saw |amethyst at Sat Feb 21 01:35:41 2015 UTC (2h 13m 55s ago) saying '/nick SybilOfCumae' on ##crawl-dev. 21:49:42 ...!? 21:49:52 !seen sybilofcumae 21:49:53 Sorry PleasingFungus, I haven't seen sybilofcumae. 21:49:55 rip 21:49:58 !seen gammafunk 21:49:58 I last saw gammafunk at Sat Feb 21 01:50:59 2015 UTC (1h 58m 59s ago) saying 'another good option: burning bush' on ##crawl-dev. 21:50:39 will anyone write the latest blog updates for the week? :( 21:51:43 I guess I could 21:52:11 we're under feature freeze, so idk how much there is to say 21:52:35 TRJ? 21:52:46 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:35 <|amethyst> gozag 21:53:44 actually, question 21:53:59 if I start a game in trunk and 0.16 is released does my save get moved to 0.16 or stay in trunk? 21:54:08 <|amethyst> stays in trunk 21:54:09 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:54:29 <|amethyst> assuming you mean on the servers 21:54:35 yeah 21:55:42 -!- marsbars has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:56:59 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:58:14 great orb of eyes (09G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 53-81 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 20 | see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | XP: 1023 | Sp: paralyse [06!sil], disintegrate (d44) [06!sil], drain magic [06!sil], confuse [06!sil], teleport other [06!sil, 04emergency] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 21:58:14 %??great orb of eyes 21:58:18 !seen zannick 21:58:18 I last saw Zannick at Fri Feb 20 20:56:18 2015 UTC (7h 2m ago) saying 'fr: enchant weapon while wielding food makes it +1 food' on ##crawl-dev. 21:58:24 |amethyst: can you remind me how to run an individual test 21:58:50 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:59:27 * Zannick summoned 22:00:19 -!- Guest49820 is now known as SwissStopwatch 22:01:11 |amethyst: just trying to download the milestone file? weird 22:01:13 <|amethyst> test/stress/run 22:01:25 |amethyst: does it hang at any specific point? 22:01:31 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:01:44 <|amethyst> chequers: haven't really been able to tell... it's only once every month or so 22:03:00 bh: sup 22:03:23 weird, can you just add a timeout or something? 22:03:58 a timeout of like 5s is probably conservative enough 22:04:09 i'm guessing it's just because the servers are literally 450ms away over the internet 22:05:07 <|amethyst> it must be during connect, because the default read timeout is supposed to be 900 seconds 22:05:28 you might be getting really slow data transfer for some wildly obscure reasons 22:05:35 so it never triggers that timeout 22:05:44 <|amethyst> true 22:06:28 |amethyst: no, I mean, like the mon-spell test or w/e - stuff in c, not in lua 22:08:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:10:05 I'm gonna comment stuff out 22:10:29 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:10:31 hm 22:11:45 for the record, the longest scroll name is IKHLODI SHREEDITUURGH 22:11:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:12 hm 22:12:16 are scroll names hardcoded? 22:12:41 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: no, but they are generated by a deterministic algorithm from one of a finite number of seeds 22:12:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah, I can't see a way to run only, say, mon-spell 22:12:55 which file is their generation in? 22:13:00 I used powerful commenting magic 22:13:01 <|amethyst> makename.cc 22:13:03 !source make_name 22:13:03 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/itemname.cc;hb=HEAD#l2784 22:13:08 |amethyst: no 22:13:20 <|amethyst> err 22:13:33 <|amethyst> yeah, listen to PF 22:13:44 <|amethyst> since he's actually working with the code in question and knows where it is 22:13:46 <|amethyst> :) 22:14:05 got it 22:14:06 it's in a... semi-logical file 22:14:13 CanOfWorms: do you know how to code 22:14:18 yes 22:14:21 sort of 22:14:22 read that function 22:14:24 you will enjoy it 22:14:31 the scroll name function? 22:14:51 <|amethyst> it's not just scrolls, also pan lords, shopkeepers, etc 22:15:01 ya 22:15:20 anyway I think this might be wrong 22:15:24 because I failed to find the best name 22:15:31 case 66: 22:15:38 CanOfWorms: it's so great. 22:17:43 <|amethyst> I've just always assumed that those numb[i] are linearly independent, but maybe should check :) 22:17:57 <|amethyst> err 22:18:12 <|amethyst> of course they're not linearly independent over the reals 22:18:20 -!- Gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:21 linearly independent with respect to what? 22:18:28 different seeds? 22:20:23 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:20:39 <|amethyst> just wondering if any more thought went into those numbers than "pick a bunch of primes" 22:21:15 <|amethyst> should stick 57 in there somewhere just to be an ass 22:21:32 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/57_%28number%29#In_mathematics 22:23:05 <|amethyst> Or add a comment // Prime factors recommended by the NSA - DO NOT CHANGE 22:23:09 hm 22:23:11 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:43 I'm not generating any scroll names from good_names 22:23:47 this is odd 22:24:04 I wonder if I broke it 22:26:11 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:27:21 <|amethyst> do you have any duplicates? 22:27:36 that's an interesting thing to check 22:28:08 <|amethyst> hm 22:28:14 will check in a minute 22:28:19 <|amethyst> I guess that doesn't actually matter 22:28:43 <|amethyst> the repeat-if-duplicate code is still going to be sampling from the same 151 * 151 possibilities 22:29:06 <|amethyst> and it just looks at the number, not whether the strings are the same 22:29:11 I really wonder why 151 22:29:23 <|amethyst> Bacardi? 22:29:51 Anything is possible. 22:30:15 Dates back to initial revision. 22:32:47 ok, so yeah, the scrolls generated by the actual game match up with the ones in the list I generated, even before my big name rewrite thing from a few months ago 22:32:59 so where's THE GIAGGOSTUONO...? 22:33:18 or MUUTATATOTOTS, or MOMMYXOMUHU, or 22:33:30 I... wonder 22:33:32 mutato? 22:33:43 those are most definitely real 22:33:45 <|amethyst> didn't the subtype_rnd stuff change a while back? 22:33:46 sounds like a chaotic plant 22:34:02 |amethyst: yes, but that didn't change the scrolls that were generated 22:34:04 I just finished testing 22:34:04 mmm, muutatatotots 22:34:12 151 = pokemon, of course 22:34:19 ...ha! 22:34:20 I got it 22:34:26 MUUTATOTOTS has also generated 22:34:29 someone removed OBJ_UNKNOWN_I 22:34:35 <|amethyst> oh 22:34:47 obviously, this permanently & completely changed the names that would generate 22:35:20 rip xom the best mommy, uhu 22:35:33 <|amethyst> so 22:36:04 retesting now 22:36:04 <|amethyst> do we change it to 6 instead of OBJ_SCROLLS to get back the classic names? :) 22:36:04 PF: Does a scroll labeled OHIAMAFAKE still generate 22:36:32 it seems unlikely 22:36:41 oh 22:36:43 nope, it's there 22:36:53 so that one's relatively recent (very relatively) 22:37:04 I've seen that one before (sadly it was not a mimic) 22:37:08 oh, wow 22:37:10 NAOB TWO NE SCHIJ 22:37:11 three spaces 22:37:25 <|amethyst> That scroll name is the schij 22:37:36 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 22:37:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:51 Can you throw out a link/pastebin/etc of all the scroll possibilities 22:37:59 sure, gimme a sec 22:38:55 Regenerating des: ./dat/des/portals/bailey.des 22:38:57 ./dat/des/portals/bailey.des:368: Couldn't find a map for bailey_polearm 22:38:59 why do I keep getting this 22:39:06 or some variant of this (specifically on bailey) 22:39:29 ??good_names[26] 22:39:29 good names[26/27]: Here: Zots the pandemonium lord 22:39:30 omg 22:39:40 I deleted a couple of entries 22:39:43 27 is important 22:40:10 man, rip OBJ_GEMSTONES 22:40:28 Crawl had gemstones at one point? 22:40:38 no 22:40:54 but someone (linley?) was planning to add them and added an enum 22:40:58 ah 22:41:22 also, https://twitter.com/crawlcode/status/568993831707738114 22:41:44 I wonder what gemstones would have done 22:41:54 they were right after gold 22:42:04 I think they were probably just 22:42:05 more gold 22:42:15 PF, do you maintain that twitter account 22:42:16 coincidentally, I have a suspicion about why they never actually made it into the game 22:42:26 CanOfWorms: why? 22:42:55 yess, I was right 22:42:56 I think I've only seen you post links to it 22:42:59 aw 22:43:01 sad 22:43:07 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:43:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yes, if you use C = 6 you get THE GIAGGOSTUONO 22:43:23 ya I just did it 22:43:23 I'm so smuyg 22:43:26 smaug? 22:43:53 http://sprunge.us/ffZg old names http://sprunge.us/DfMY new names 22:44:14 oh, hm 22:44:33 old names is twice as large as new names and I'm not sure why 22:44:51 "FAECAE PLIRE" wow potty mouth 22:45:08 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:45:11 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:45:16 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you catted them? 22:45:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: they start out the same 22:45:30 hrm 22:45:36 might have accidentally appended 22:45:45 STATULIGOO - scroll of statue form 22:45:47 <|amethyst> yeah, that's it 22:45:47 oh, yeah, I did 22:45:49 gimme a sec 22:46:22 http://sprunge.us/BWbI actual old names 22:46:34 sail the PREFFU SEAS with me 22:46:58 <|amethyst> here's mine http://sprunge.us/JEXI 22:47:08 <|amethyst> with six new possible worlds 22:47:10 CanOfWorms: ??fuk_da_sac 22:47:35 ! 22:47:41 so many possibilities 22:47:43 hm 22:47:44 rude 22:48:29 !tell grunt Here: a scroll reading FRINED EPLOG. 22:48:29 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 22:48:36 !tell grunt and by 'here' I mean the complete list of all possible scroll names http://sprunge.us/DfMY 22:48:37 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 22:48:38 "XOM DENURI 22:48:51 also, it has never been possible to find a scroll named 'plog' 22:48:52 *U 22:48:52 er, PLOG 22:48:54 there's a U 22:48:57 at the nd 22:48:59