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05:39:03 Huene`: anyway, perhaps might be an older c++ compiler 05:40:24 -!- spacet__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:40:46 Huene`: specifically, you need a c++ compiler that supports C++11 05:42:34 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:43:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:44:53 -!- spacet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:46:38 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 05:48:03 -!- spacet__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:57:47 -!- Walttt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:58:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:01:26 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 06:01:53 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 06:02:15 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:10 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:13:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:56 <|amethyst> Huene`: try upgrading your binutils perhaps 06:15:56 |amethyst: You have 1 message. 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[file=remote.cbro-logfile-any-nostalgia] Jark the Basher (L1 TrCK of Xom), quit the game on D:1 (eino_arrival_water_star) on 2015-02-07 22:20:16, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:08. 09:05:46 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:05 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:10:45 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:51 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:03 anyone know what the difference is between the 'logfile' file and the 'scores' file? 09:14:11 <|amethyst> wheals: 'scores' is only the top N scores, sorted by score 09:14:15 <|amethyst> muravey: 'logfile' is all games 09:14:24 <|amethyst> err 09:14:30 <|amethyst> wheals: 'logfile' is all games 09:14:33 ah, ok 09:14:36 but same format? 09:14:39 <|amethyst> muravey: sorry, not sure how that tab-complete even happened 09:15:26 <|amethyst> wheals: yes... maybe there are some fields that don't appear in scores, but I can't think of any 09:15:49 <|amethyst> it's the same format as milestones too, but those definitely have different fields 09:15:56 -!- spacet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:16:54 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:17:59 thanks 09:18:12 -!- spacet__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:18:22 18275 lawman0 the Hacker (level 12, -2/105 HPs) 09:18:23 Began as a Yak Gladiator on Feb 5, 2015. 09:18:28 perfect 09:21:57 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:25:29 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3947-g0ae921e: Fix handling of old species in hiscores. 10(4 days ago, 4 files, 79+ 38-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ae921ea02a1 09:25:29 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3948-g9cef621: Remove two functions. 10(4 days ago, 10 files, 16+ 46-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cef621abbe8 09:25:29 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3949-g0db3dd4: Make is_valid_starting_species O(N) instead of O(1). 10(4 days ago, 7 files, 17+ 39-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0db3dd4713b9 09:25:29 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3950-gfc6bcd0: Move species_order from species.cc to newgame.cc. 10(16 minutes ago, 6 files, 51+ 71-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc6bcd06d949 09:25:29 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3951-g8f44c91: Remove two unused functions. 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f44c91da5b4 09:25:29 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3952-gb4b3fd6: Give mottled dragons the correct sticky flame type. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4b3fd6500fd 09:26:49 -!- surr_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:26:50 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:56 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:36:26 !lg * yagl 09:36:26 No keyword 'yagl' 09:39:57 huh 09:40:00 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:40:31 so i was reverting the butchery commit, and i thought git had totally messed up because: 09:40:32 case DELAY_ARMOUR_ON: 09:40:32 _armour_wear_effects(delay.parm1); 09:40:32 + // If butchery (parm2), autopickup chunks. 09:40:32 + if (Options.chunks_autopickup && delay.parm2) 09:40:33 + autopickup(); 09:40:35 break; 09:40:50 but apparently it was like that before the original commit 09:41:08 weird 09:41:18 oh 09:41:23 %git 806551aa06f81c0be277eefa17610b24769af6fc 09:41:23 07jpeg02 * 0.6.0-a1-3146-g806551a: Autopickup chunks after butchery involving gloves (un)equipment. 10(5 years ago, 2 files, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=806551aa06f8 09:41:42 -!- Gobbo is now known as GOblinBomb 09:41:45 -!- GOblinBomb is now known as GoblinBomb 09:41:46 mm 09:44:58 there's also code for draining in-inventory corpses 09:46:14 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:47:59 -!- lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:48:53 -!- spacet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:52:23 -!- spacet__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:52:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:10 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:56:32 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:57:47 -!- spacet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:58:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:06 -!- motorbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:03:05 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:04:10 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:57 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 10:20:39 -!- spacet__ is now known as spacet 10:22:39 -!- olourkin has quit [Client Quit] 10:23:48 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:54 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 10:29:58 -!- surr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:30:05 -!- surr_ is now known as Surr 10:31:55 -!- titanjon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:37:18 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:37:40 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:13 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:45:13 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:49:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:54:45 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:55:07 <|amethyst> !tell wheals btw, if you are going to tweak the butcher code after reverting, I'd recommend a separate commit, unless the reverted commit fails to compile 10:55:08 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 10:59:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:09:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:21 yeah, i have a commit for the revert already (with a minor amendment for compilation), and i'll do a refactoring commit, then a one-turn delay commit 11:12:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:13:15 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13:50 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:03 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:43 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:20:34 -!- Surr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:20:45 double secret april fools idea: add wishes in some form (doesn't really matter how they're accessed) but then after you type in what you wished for Xom roars with laughter and does a xom action 11:21:01 or possibly gives you a red herring (item or monster to fight) 11:22:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:46 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3952-gb4b3fd6 (34) 11:26:23 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:34 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:47:55 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:48:11 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:11 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:56:04 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:45 -!- namad7 has quit [] 11:59:13 -!- Siegurt1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:14 -!- Siegurt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:00:36 -!- Siegurt1 is now known as Siegurt 12:02:07 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:04:08 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:05:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:50 -!- Sonderblade has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 12:18:25 _resist_mutation is checked twice making rMut much less effective 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9477 by Siegurt 12:19:46 else if (delay.type == DELAY_BUTCHER || delay.type == DELAY_BOTTLE_BLOOD) 12:19:46 { 12:19:53 if (delay.type == DELAY_BUTCHER 12:19:54 || delay.type == DELAY_BOTTLE_BLOOD) // Shouldn't happen. 12:20:08 ... 12:20:25 -!- therealfakemoot has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 12:20:26 the comment right after enlightens, though: 12:20:33 else 12:20:33 { 12:20:33 // Don't attempt to offer a skeleton. 12:28:41 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:43 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:00 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:36:45 -!- lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:39:28 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:03 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:43:23 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:52:03 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:54:08 -!- schisto has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:54:33 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:55:25 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:55:51 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:59:53 -!- inspector071 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:04:12 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:05:17 i feel like delay code is the very worst code in the whole codebase 13:05:23 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:06:41 ooh look, a goto inside a switch statment :P 13:07:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:07 wheals: I like your o(1) -> o(n) commit 13:08:29 efficiency is MEGA unimportant 13:09:08 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:09:47 well 13:09:51 honestly that's true in a lot of cases 13:09:53 like that one! 13:09:56 :) 13:10:08 also do you still have commit access right now, by any chance 13:10:25 yes 13:10:28 the rmut thing? 13:10:33 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:10:58 ya 13:11:08 it's a super simple change and there's already dev consensus on it! 13:11:10 once i wrestle this butchery stuff to the ground 13:11:13 mm 13:11:15 brutal 13:11:45 maybe antaeus can give me some wrestling tips 13:12:18 antaeus does NOT have ANY canonically established wrestling skills, techniques, brutal haymakers and piledrivers, etc. 13:12:50 good rMut bug 13:12:56 I can fix it I guess since wheals is doing important things 13:13:07 would be nice 13:14:30 I really honestly thought that someone had fixed that 13:14:49 as did i :) 13:14:56 when i read the report 13:14:58 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:15:20 well, it's a lesson for us all 13:15:42 don't accept patches from nrook??? 13:16:23 he's resigned from crawl forever anyway 13:16:26 since he's still super mad 13:16:32 rip in peace 13:18:10 ah well 13:18:25 nrook is mad? do I want to know why 13:19:02 %git 534a61b9e 13:19:02 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-3207-g534a61b: Don't enhance Dragon's Call while in Dragon form 10(8 weeks ago, 4 files, 2+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=534a61b9e9b4 13:19:17 -!- hong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:19:26 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-3953-g67086d1: Fix rMut being less effective than intended (9477). 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67086d1c8c20 13:19:40 :) 13:20:28 (for reference, nrook added the dcall enhancer) 13:23:48 &dump svalbardcaretaker 13:23:49 http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Svalbardcaretaker/Svalbardcaretaker.txt 13:24:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:24:13 ??qda 13:24:14 quicksilver dragon armour[1/2]: 10AC, 6ER, MR+, cannot be enchanted. Can be created by enchanting a quicksilver dragon hide. (0.16+) 13:24:27 is this report because of the QDA nerf 13:24:33 Quicksilver dragon armour gives less than its base AC. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9478 by Le_Nerd 13:25:01 oh deformed 13:25:28 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:48 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:26:21 %git :/uicksilver 13:26:21 07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-2252-g6090d16: Pan Lord spell adjustments 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 46+ 63-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6090d16214a1 13:26:30 or maybe that nerf was just in my imagination 13:27:03 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:28:08 -!- gressup has quit [] 13:28:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:29:10 it was not 13:29:18 %git :/[Qq][Dd] 13:29:18 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-3612-g267631e: QDA: ER 6 -> 7. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=267631e571eb 13:29:47 ah 13:32:24 -!- gressup1 has quit [Client Quit] 13:34:43 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3954-g47e9bdb: Revert "Make butchering/bottling single-turn." 10(4 hours ago, 10 files, 237+ 62-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=47e9bdb86a79 13:34:43 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3955-g0d7c60e: Cleanup butchery(), some delay code. 10(71 minutes ago, 4 files, 73+ 101-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d7c60ef6b6f 13:34:43 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3956-g0bdf5d4: Make butchering single-turn again. 10(13 minutes ago, 5 files, 90+ 151-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bdf5d42a1c7 13:35:19 -!- walterch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:23 <|amethyst> wheals: I'm going to go ahead and close that QDA bug 13:35:32 sounds ok by me 13:35:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:09 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:37:49 deathrave (L1 HESk) ASSERT(!crawl_state.prev_cmd_keys.empty()) in 'main.cc' at line 3727 failed. (D:1) 13:38:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:17 butcher.cc:283:17: error: case value evaluates to -1, which cannot be narrowed 13:38:17 to type 'ucs_t' (aka 'unsigned int') [-Wc++11-narrowing] 13:38:18 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:39:26 !butcher wheals 13:39:33 -!- ballingt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:39:52 huh, and that's an error? 13:40:13 -Werror is default these day, I think? 13:41:30 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:41 <|amethyst> I don't think so? 13:41:52 well, at any rate i suspect it's due to 13:41:57 !source CASE_ESCAPE 13:41:58 Can't find CASE_ESCAPE. 13:42:01 feh 13:42:02 <|amethyst> yes 13:42:20 <|amethyst> anyway, could cast to int there and hope any -1 will survive the roundtrip to/from ucs_t 13:43:17 ./libutil.h:20:58: note: expanded from macro 'CASE_ESCAPE' 13:43:17 #define CASE_ESCAPE case ESCAPE: case CONTROL('G'): case -1: 13:43:34 <|amethyst> or define a version of toalower that takes and returns an int 13:46:44 interestingly, looks like gcc accepts a "case -1:" in a switch on an unsigned just fine 13:51:31 clang is generally more pedantic than gcc 13:51:47 it's one of the reasons I like it, it catches more incorrect code 13:54:00 |amethyst, sorry for the belated reply, I just updated binutils and the result was the same, and yes to chequers who I'm not sure is still here, I did intend to compile webtiles not tiles 13:54:55 <|amethyst> not entirely surprising that gcc does not give a warning for something that was legal before C++11 13:55:46 <|amethyst> this is the "Error: expecting string instruction after `rep'" ? 13:55:55 correct 13:55:58 <|amethyst> what does as --version say 13:56:17 GNU assembler version 2.20.51.0.2-5.42.el6 20100205 13:56:23 do you need the whole output? 13:56:31 rest looks generic 13:56:36 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:57:39 -!- Huene|mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:46 <|amethyst> hm 13:57:59 <|amethyst> I don't think rep; ret was supported until a newer binutils than that 13:58:33 what version is recommended? 13:58:45 or used for inhouse compiling 13:59:08 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:01:02 -!- markgo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:01:15 <|amethyst> looks like this was fixed in binutils 2.23 or so? 14:01:22 <|amethyst> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57017 14:01:31 alright gotta head out for now but I'll look at it when I'm at work 14:01:34 ty 14:01:51 -!- Huene` is now known as Huene`[seemobile 14:02:42 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:39 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:39 <|amethyst> err 14:05:49 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:05:51 <|amethyst> there's a bigger problem than the sign thing 14:07:03 -!- Huene|mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:07:14 uh oh 14:07:23 -!- Akitten_Homura is now known as UncertainKitten 14:07:39 * wheals stops, drops, and rolls 14:08:57 * PleasingFungus panics! 14:10:22 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3957-gc21df93: Fix felid hydras etc. having an extra-good stab. 10(4 minutes ago, 5 files, 17+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c21df9380302 14:11:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:27 <|amethyst> wheals: ♥ at jabberwocky 14:12:53 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:12:56 something will have gone very wrong if that text ever shows up in game, at least :P 14:13:09 -!- TMTurtle_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:27 vorpal jabberywocky (04J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 13-21 | AC/EV: 0/2 | Dam: 308(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(10), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 42 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 14:13:27 %??jelly name:vorpal_jabberywocky 14:13:39 ? 14:13:40 <|amethyst> wheals: save compat? 14:13:54 <|amethyst> wheals: I can add it 14:14:14 ooh right, usually i'm just too lazy to help ongoing games 14:14:21 i guess it would suck if you have a feen 14:14:26 and this doesn't even need a minor version 14:15:00 <|amethyst> yeah 14:15:33 i wonders whether anyone has gotten in a dform stab while they could 14:15:37 er 14:15:44 s,i ,/me 14:19:43 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:46 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:23:36 |amethyst, so what did you mean by "<+|amethyst> there's a bigger problem than the sign thing" 14:23:43 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:23:58 wheals: the damage isn't that good anyway, I can't even get to 10000 14:24:13 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3958-g8774f14: Fix tile builds. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8774f146960e 14:24:13 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3959-g72e9c3a: Fix a sign warning (geekosaur) 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=72e9c3a89b89 14:24:13 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3960-g7581a25: Save compat: How Fluffy Got Her Claws Back. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7581a25e0dea 14:24:13 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3961-g10fd7b4: Unbrace. 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10fd7b467acb 14:24:15 <|amethyst> wheals: incoming, see first commit 14:24:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:25 The build was broken. (master - 0bdf5d4 #1747 : Shmuale Mark): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/50102014 14:24:25 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:24:30 good timing 14:25:15 minmay: yeah, i guess dark maul + assboots is probably better still 14:25:33 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:25:45 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:26:26 <|amethyst> geekosaur: can you verify that fixes the warning? I didn't see one when building with clang, but maybe we have different versions/flags ? 14:27:05 updating 14:28:13 wheals: assmaul is only slightly better 14:28:35 is this from after the recent buff? 14:28:47 yes 14:29:05 <|amethyst> !tell ChrisOelmueller btw, it looked like that (the to_string thing) was sitting on top of other commits, so I didn't try cherry-picking it yet; should I? 14:29:06 |amethyst: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 14:29:07 ok, i was going to suggest undeadhunter but it probably has little chance beating it there 14:29:59 fixed, yes 14:30:06 (still building) 14:31:20 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 14:34:49 item_use.cc: In function ‘void tile_item_use_floor(int)’: 14:34:50 item_use.cc:2967:9: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘butchery’ butchery(&mitm[idx]); ^ 14:34:53 make: *** [item_use.o] Error 1 14:35:37 (from g0bdf5d4) 14:36:14 oh, did you fix with 3958? 14:36:28 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:30 yep, appears to build past that 14:40:48 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:53 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:44:26 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:27 The build was broken. 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I just don't know exactly how to test it. it does return the correct version 17:59:38 when exactly are you receiving this error if the compile worked fine? 18:00:04 sorry the compile for binutils. I had to update it 18:00:31 <|amethyst> Can you show the exact error? 18:00:52 I can try but it'll take a few I'm on a phone 18:01:45 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:59 heh, did you break your running system to get crawl compilation working 18:02:10 * chequers pats Huene|mobile on the shoulder 18:05:34 now I'm just at work. and can't get out on ssh 18:05:39 nope 18:11:40 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:16 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:14:39 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:26 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:17:38 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:09 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:22:15 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:13 huh 18:27:17 I had an item spawn on top of the orb of zot 18:27:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:27:22 is that normal? I've never seen that before 18:28:01 it can happen 18:28:37 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:31:59 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:00 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:34:45 sorry it took so long |amethyst http://pastebin.com/BaHgbS3q 18:35:01 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:35:14 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:26 versions are included at the bottom 18:36:55 did you clean before the build? you might have had weirdness from before you updated your compiler 18:37:15 -!- Huene_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:46 okay oops did I miss my answer? 18:39:49 -!- Huene|mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:40:46 <|amethyst> hm 18:41:02 <|amethyst> a problem with your system curses library of some sort? 18:41:24 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:42:47 <|amethyst> Huene_: what if you build with EXTRA_LIBS=-ltinfo make 18:43:06 libtinfo? that's a really old ncurses, I think 18:43:16 <|amethyst> perhaps that's the problem then? 18:43:24 <|amethyst> /usr/local/bin/ld: libunix.o: undefined reference to symbol 'define_key' 18:43:24 <|amethyst> /lib64/libtinfo.so.5: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line 18:43:43 years ago it was folded into ncurses proper, with symlinks for backward compatibility, then eventually removed completely 18:44:04 holdover from SVR2 compatibility of the original ncurses 18:44:07 what RH version is this server 18:47:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:48:29 -!- NomadJim has quit [Changing host] 18:49:19 -!- NomadJim has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:50:36 I've got a tough call I'll be a sec before I can provide additional information. my apologies 18:50:56 -!- NomadJim has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:56:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:49 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:23 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:58 and it's centos 19:02:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:03:37 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:03 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:44 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:12 which centos? 19:07:25 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 19:07:56 trying to find out I didn't install it and uname is not being helpful 19:08:31 cat /etc/redhat-release 19:09:49 6.5 19:09:56 ty 19:10:00 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10:13 hm. sadly it probably does have that old an ncurses 19:10:30 so try to update ncurses? 19:10:38 I think that's why I remembered the -ltinfo history... 19:10:57 probably just adding -ltinfo to the build as |amethyst suggested (EXTRA_LIBS) should work 19:11:47 OK trying again 19:14:01 (you are not going to be able to sanely upgrade ncurses) 19:14:19 seemed to work. gonna be a minute before I can test the compile 19:14:22 <|amethyst> I am reminded of my second Linux distribution 19:14:23 (especially if you're not an admin. the approved upgrade path is "install centos 7") 19:15:27 <|amethyst> It started out as Redhat (not RHEL) 4.0, which was libc5 19:15:38 <|amethyst> it was libc6 by the time I was done with it 19:15:52 <|amethyst> this was before I really "got" package management 19:16:10 <|amethyst> so I was compiling everything and doing make install into /usr/ 19:16:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:17:49 <|amethyst> I kept at that for about six years, across two computers, before I got a new machine and decided to switch to debian unstable 19:18:09 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:19:55 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:25 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:18 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:22:01 I "got" package management well before my first Linux distribution. a job managing a bunch of RH4-6 systems taught me that Red Hat did *not*. (They're still a bit weak about it) 19:25:57 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:06 * chequers wonders who does package management better than RH 19:26:30 debian, usually 19:27:01 oh, you're talking about single nodes 19:27:23 the thing RH consistently got wrong then, and still botches now, is that once you release a new version, not everyone can jump straight to it --- and trivial backports that throw warnings or even errors on the older OS aren't really acceptable 19:29:08 I spent a ***load of time fixing their security updates for RH5.1 after RH5.2 came out, because packages we needed were backported in such a way as to be incompatible with other packages (these incompatibilities haveing been corrected in 5.2 by changing/upgrading the other packages; *those*, not beings ecurity related, were not backported) 19:29:22 upgrading those machines couldn't happen until the end of the semester 19:29:51 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:30:22 Summon Dragon can't summmon fire dragons under Dith, but monstrous menagerie can summon lindwurms. 19:30:27 er Dragon's Call 19:30:37 Seems like a bu 19:30:38 g 19:30:44 <|amethyst> they go hostile, right? 19:30:46 yes 19:30:59 I'm inclined to call it a bug and fix it 19:31:01 <|amethyst> menagerie doesn't have the special casing that dragon's call does 19:31:06 yeah 19:31:09 <|amethyst> most summon spells don't 19:31:55 but most summon spells can't summon anything objectionable 19:32:58 i thought that the @ symbol was special in vault syntax but apparently kfeat will overwrite its normal meaning of "connect this" 19:33:39 <|amethyst> ugh 19:34:14 <|amethyst> Lasty: there are several summon spells that always summon something objectionable (then again I believe you are excommunicated or at least penanced) 19:34:27 <|amethyst> Lasty: e.g. summon demon under Ely 19:34:44 true, but those are obviously going to summon those things 19:34:50 nicolae-, I am vaguely recalling that that is mentioned in one of the files and justified by there being other ways to indicate connection 19:35:08 one of the vault language documents, that is 19:35:19 well, it's worked in the past, is the thing 19:35:34 maybe not in this context, which is admittedly goofy 19:37:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:37:18 <|amethyst> hm 19:37:42 <|amethyst> it looks at glyph, so I wouldn't think kfeat would affect it 19:37:46 <|amethyst> shuffle/subst would 19:37:58 it's after the shuffle/subst, though 19:38:01 here, let me pastebin it 19:38:12 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:38:21 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:00 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:09 http://pastebin.com/GF2PfTAQ 19:39:27 -!- Huene__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:36 that definitely worked. thank you folks 19:40:22 -!- Huene_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:40:52 <|amethyst> geekosaur: hm... any way to detect when that's needed? 19:41:12 <|amethyst> given out makefile, probably not a good way :/ 19:41:17 <|amethyst> s/out/our/ 19:41:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:42:00 one way would be detect /lib{,64}/libtinfo.so.* existing and not being a symlink to the corresponding libncurses.so.* 19:42:49 (could conceivably blow up on some distro that replaced the symlink with a linker script, as Debian is prone to do) 19:43:14 what was that variable called again? EXTRA what? 19:43:21 <|amethyst> then someone goes and puts it in /usr/lib64 or /libx32 19:43:28 <|amethyst> EXTRA_LIBS 19:43:31 alternately see if a simple program main(){initscr(); endwin();} links with -lncurses vs. also needing -ltinfo 19:43:38 ty 19:45:42 <|amethyst> geekosaur: I guess we could try pkg-config to find ncursesw or ncurses, and fall back to the current mess if that doesn't work or if pkg-config isn't present 19:46:09 <|amethyst> at least I hope on RH it would include -ltinfo in the --libs... 19:48:40 re summoning spells, you could say "use a different spell if you worship dith" 19:48:43 <|amethyst> nicolae-: and what's the problem? 19:48:48 but you can't for dcall, because it's the only L9 19:48:50 <|amethyst> nicolae-: none of them are being connected? 19:49:07 dammit deadrat... pkg-config --libs ncurses does *not* include -ltinfo 19:49:16 <|amethyst> nicolae-: oh, you want all the altars to be connected to the level 19:49:46 yes, some of them are being connected, and many of them are, and some even have hallways going to them, but a few always end up hidden in the walls 19:50:30 even "better" it looks like it's not needed for most ncurses programs 19:51:00 only those that use key bindings or some other features, or use the lower level tiget*() stuff etc. 19:52:01 wheals: but then shouldn't Menagerie be marked off limits? 19:52:10 In practice it's still really good even w/ hostile lindwurms 19:52:58 i was just giving a possible justification, making spells not summon hostiles in general sounds good 19:53:25 <|amethyst> err 19:53:45 (and yet I recall needing -ltinfo for something that shouldn't have needed it by what I am seeing...) 19:53:49 <|amethyst> what about demon summoning? 19:54:01 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:54:25 "Why would you want do that?" 19:54:26 :P 19:54:39 <|amethyst> sounds like a makhleb buff 19:54:49 heh 19:55:42 <|amethyst> I think making summon spell more consistent about god hate is good, but 19:55:52 <|amethyst> I think that would be a fairly big and bug-prone change 19:56:04 <|amethyst> so I would say to hold off until 0.17-a0 19:56:08 hmm, fair nuff 19:56:10 oh, for sure 19:58:12 The boring beetle falls off the wall. 19:58:12 _A boring beetle appears out of thin air! 19:58:12 A boring beetle surfaces. 19:58:30 trapdoor boring beetles?? 19:58:44 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:46 hm, so somehow find where libncurses.so gets satisfied from and grep nm --dynamic for define_key. ick 19:59:08 boring beetle (07B) | Spd: 6 | HD: 8 | HP: 31-58 | AC/EV: 13/4 | Dam: 35 | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 110 | Sz: Large | Int: insect. 19:59:09 %??boring beetle 19:59:16 they can cling? 19:59:38 alternately I suppose the compiel version. main() { define_key() } -lncurses (hack as needed to avoid warnings) 19:59:58 for more context, the boring beetle appeared next to me the way a trapdoor spider would 20:00:09 oh 20:00:12 !learn add lasty_to_do monstrous menagerie summoning lindwurms under dith 20:00:12 lasty to do[11/11]: monstrous menagerie summoning lindwurms under dith 20:00:13 I bet it is a shapeshifter 20:00:17 shapeshifter turned... yes 20:00:26 the messages still seem... wrong 20:00:27 the messages are still somewhat strange 20:00:39 yeah, a shifter 20:00:39 they are. I saw that kind of thing a lot when playing CKs 20:00:41 especially would expect them all to be in one turn 20:01:10 also, trapdoor spiders apparently cling to the wall while underneath the floor?? :P 20:01:12 (and the ordering has always been peculiar as well) 20:01:26 how does that work, ergonomically speaking 20:01:44 <|amethyst> wheals: I bet a flying trapdoor spider could hide under the floor too 20:02:11 wheals: they do yoga 20:02:29 Sounds silly. I'd expect them hide on top of passing clouds. 20:02:42 <|amethyst> The boring beetle crawls under the baseboard! 20:03:40 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:08:45 trapdoor spiders also have a tendency to hide under the floor when put to sleep using EH 20:09:16 man, Dragon's Call is absolutely nuts. Moreso than Tornado, even. Fun, tho. 20:10:20 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:12:00 if tornado were mass summon twister 20:12:09 and the twisters didn't hurt you 20:12:18 and did as much damage in closed spaces as in open ones 20:12:35 Summon However Many Dragons You Need 20:13:42 oh, the extra dragons do take more MP at least 20:14:14 <|amethyst> dragon's ray 20:14:31 dragon wagon 20:14:33 <|amethyst> dragon infusion 20:14:42 dragon storm 20:14:46 dragon flagon, a potion that turns you into a dragon 20:14:51 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:14:53 <|amethyst> nicolae-: my wife has multiple cookbooks by "Crescent Dragonwagon" 20:15:24 A friend of mine has a kids book explaining child birth in detail by Crescent Dragonwagon 20:15:44 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:57 what on earth 20:19:02 <|amethyst> nicolae-: hippies 20:19:13 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crescent_Dragonwagon 20:20:00 i gathered that much 20:20:14 i saw her wiki page but oddly it doesn't really clear things up 20:20:36 <|amethyst> http://dragonwagon.com/is-that-your-real-name/ 20:20:55 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 20:21:20 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:21:35 ah 20:22:40 that explains the name, though not why she just didn't get it changed again 20:23:01 <|amethyst> "But by the time I realized how long the remainder of my days might be, and that I’d be pulling it around like a ball and chain, I already had a couple of books out and the start of a professional reputation." 20:24:12 ah 20:24:15 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:38 i dunno. if it were me i'd change my legal name and go by that and just use Dragonwagon as a professional pseudonym 20:24:52 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:25:01 on the other hand she's apparently a somewhat successful writer and i am not, so 20:25:01 <_miek> Yeah there's no obligation to use your real name as an author 20:25:20 <_miek> or rather, its not unheard of for people to have pseudonyms 20:25:34 <|amethyst> perhaps she has changed her legal name 20:25:50 perhaps 20:26:19 i guess the important question is this: 20:26:22 are the recipes any good 20:26:56 <|amethyst> some of them, anyway 20:27:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:58 <|amethyst> the barbecued tofu went over well with my wife's carnivorous coworkers 20:28:19 huh, who wrote the whip desc 20:28:20 i like it 20:28:44 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:13 mmm, barbequed tofu 20:29:17 <|amethyst> sounds kind of like kb 20:29:46 i think it came from that description rewrite thing Grimm arranged on the tavern a few years back 20:29:55 i vaguely recall having seen it in the spreadsheet 20:30:14 <|amethyst> ah, yes 20:30:26 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:27 <|amethyst> it is from Text Improvement Taskforce 20:30:30 <|amethyst> %git 37daa989 20:30:30 07galehar02 * 0.11-a0-1740-g37daa98: New descriptions for some items. 10(2 years, 9 months ago, 2 files, 349+ 135-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37daa9894b7c 20:30:45 my first contributions to crawl, i think... 20:32:35 who came up with the master forger 20:32:44 for double/triple swords 20:33:08 me. 20:33:13 rip. 20:33:22 yeah, rip. 20:33:51 %git :/setptuple 20:33:53 Could not find commit :/setptuple (git returned 128) 20:33:59 %git :/septuple 20:33:59 Could not find commit :/septuple (git returned 128) 20:34:02 aw 20:34:08 %git :/seven-br 20:34:09 Could not find commit :/seven-br (git returned 128) 20:34:59 <|amethyst> %git :/gilette-mach-3 20:35:00 Could not find commit :/gilette-mach-3 (git returned 128) 20:38:28 -!- Huene__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:42:03 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:13 -!- rgould has quit [] 20:45:20 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45:49 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:30 -!- NomadJim has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:48:11 -!- NomadJim has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:51:52 so is there anything left of Mountain Dwarf left in the code with the high score change 20:52:35 yes, as a matter of fact that added back the string "Mountain Dwarf" 20:53:00 %git :/ountain 20:53:01 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-3367-g7c1b4ff: Step down Quick Charge effectiveness. 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c1b4ff10092 20:53:01 i was briefly tempted to name the commit "Bring back Mountain Dwarves." but was sane enough not to 20:53:10 %git :/Remove M 20:53:11 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-3253-g5709529: Remove Mountain Dwarves. 10(7 weeks ago, 3 files, 1+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=570952906536 20:54:01 - hair = TILEP_HAIR_LONG_RED; 20:54:01 - beard = TILEP_BEARD_FULL_RED; 20:54:26 ??beard 20:54:27 beard ~ bear[1/2]: PARTICULARLY dangerous, particularly when you first see them, particularly when they get particularly low on particles of hp and go PARTICULARLY - BEARSERK! 20:54:39 it's a tiles thing 20:54:57 ??beard stats 20:54:57 beard stats[1/1]: Beard values for 0.10 are: beardless < 10, choko beard < 30, some beard < 60, quite a beard < 90, very beardy < 120, extreme beard < 150, extraordinary beard < 190, incredible beard < 240, uncanny beard < 300, almost entirely beard >= 300 20:55:03 do they grow 20:55:29 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3963-gf3423b3: Ban Ely from zotdef 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3423b35b12a 20:55:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:36 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 21:00:16 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:02:03 how many people actually still play zotdef 21:03:02 magicalfaerieponies does 21:03:37 !lm * crash zotdef current s=cdist(name) 21:03:38 ERROR: aggregate functions are not allowed in GROUP BY 21:03:42 !lm * crash zotdef current x=cdist(name) 21:03:43 59 milestones for * (crash zotdef current): cdist(name)=19 21:03:46 apparently 19 people do 21:04:05 <|amethyst> !lm * !crash zotdef current s=cdist(name) 21:04:06 ERROR: aggregate functions are not allowed in GROUP BY 21:04:10 <|amethyst> !lm * !crash zotdef current x=cdist(name) 21:04:11 5204 milestones for * (!crash zotdef current): cdist(name)=545 21:05:14 those people might have just been looking at it without really playing it 21:05:22 !lg * won zotdef current x=cdist(name) 21:05:23 3 games for * (won zotdef current): cdist(name)=3 21:05:30 !lg * won zotdef current s=name 21:05:30 3 games for * (won zotdef current): tlhonmey, jefkin, damdam 21:05:33 <_miek> !kw current 21:05:34 !lm * crash zotdef current s=name 21:05:34 Keyword: current => cv>=0.15 21:05:34 59 milestones for * (crash zotdef current): 9x HarmlessChicken, 7x magicalfaerieponies, 6x genericusername42, 5x jefkin, 5x tlhonmey, 4x Mossy, 4x trelanon, 3x bh, 3x JaridTorvin, 2x TheSomberlain, 2x Fv001, 2x ArcaneRedneck, darkli, vozhyg, Personnage, runewalsh, MrPlanck, Malaphysto, damdam 21:05:52 nobody's won without crashing 21:06:04 !lg Lightli zotdef 21:06:05 14. darkli the Grappler (L7 TrMo of Jiyva), killed by an exploding giant spore set off by their pet in Zot (Scenario I: Hall of Zot : zotvault) on 2013-12-12 07:39:07, with 945 points after 813 turns and 0:05:50. 21:06:11 !lm Lightli zotdef 21:06:12 9. [2014-12-21 07:34:14] darkli the Chiller (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. 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ZZZzzz…] 22:46:21 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:47:36 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:29 _You finish putting on the +1 helmet of Xom's Pride {rElec rC+ rN+ rCorr Dex+2}. 22:48:37 Lasty_1: thx ^ 22:50:48 gammafunk: that should be -5 helmet of Xom's Pride {rPois- Contam Int-5 Rage* Tele* Curse} 22:50:56 no thx 22:53:16 so 22:53:23 why is Ely still allowed in Arenasprint 22:53:29 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 22:55:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:55:26 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:09 -!- _miek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:57:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:58:43 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:35 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:15 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:01:57 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:02:35 -!- _miek has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:47 -!- ghostmoth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:08:46 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:01 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:12:49 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:13:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:18:35 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:25:09 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:25:11 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3963-gf3423b3 (34) 23:26:13 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28:40 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:36:57 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:39:09 -!- markgo` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:10 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:46 -!- walterch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:45:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:48:52 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:00 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:53:09 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:54:38 -!- ghostmoth has quit [Quit: ghostmoth] 23:57:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:59:12 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev