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06:49:25 !lg kroki MuBe 15 06:49:26 15. kroki the Fighter (L12 MuBe of Trog), mangled by an iron troll (summoned by the player character) in a Labyrinth (nicolae_lab_dead_adventurers) on 2015-02-01 12:43:16, with 18254 points after 20333 turns and 1:09:00. 06:49:28 best death is best 06:49:41 okay, so ive been playing a MuBe, with an olgreb staff, evoked it for the Toxic status, summoned a brother in arms and it instantly killed me 06:49:59 i propose that it asks for a prompt to summon anything under toxic status 06:54:08 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:55:42 rip 07:02:27 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:04:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:11:13 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:24:37 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:25:28 -!- mibeto has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:28:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:28:47 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:58:11 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:04:00 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:16 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:14:08 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:10 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:01 %git 08:25:02 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3880-g9314259: Trim artefact names in console-controlled webtiles builds. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 26+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9314259aed21 08:32:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:40:22 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:40:37 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:48:11 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:58 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:23 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 08:59:04 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:53 -!- WildSam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:18:24 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:19:26 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 09:22:55 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:51 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:26:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:29:01 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:35 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:34:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:38:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:40:20 <|amethyst> haha 09:40:22 <|amethyst> someone posted 09:40:40 <|amethyst> P - the ring of Shit {-Cast rF+ Dex+5 Slay+4} 09:40:57 <|amethyst> would have been more apropos with Slay-4, but eh 09:44:22 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:50:06 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:18 |amethyst: a trove recently gave me a shield Fakk. 09:55:00 my trove demands 2 acquirement scrolls 09:55:01 :C 09:57:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:50 <|amethyst> don't worry, they would have given you a -2 robe and a wand of frost 09:59:10 I don't know 09:59:20 my last trove took my wand of heal wounds 09:59:27 and gave me "you win enjoy" armour 09:59:58 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:06 <|amethyst> You see here a portal to a casino. 10:00:10 incidently I blame pleasingfungus for this 10:00:13 also you 10:00:23 <|amethyst> oh? 10:00:43 you are there 10:00:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:00:45 and availabile 10:00:57 <|amethyst> if it's a ridiculous randart you should be blaming Lasty 10:01:05 <|amethyst> available for what? 10:01:08 no 10:01:13 it was a large shield of reflection 10:01:15 boots of running 10:01:17 and cpa 10:01:32 on my cleave and smite minotaur of tso 10:01:36 <|amethyst> oh, is the reflection interacting poorly with something? 10:01:43 <|amethyst> oh, tso 10:02:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:02:22 <|amethyst> if you are being punished for reflecting something, post some details at 10:02:24 <|amethyst> !bug 9377 10:02:25 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9377 10:03:03 <|amethyst> I wasn't able to reproduce XuaXua's problem, but he couldn't remember the details 10:06:04 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:06:06 punishment is 10:06:13 I don't get any healing from kills with it 10:06:18 on valid enemies 10:06:28 <|amethyst> oh, yes 10:06:29 unsure if thats intended 10:06:43 <|amethyst> that's... not exactly intentional, but a consequence of not being punished 10:06:51 oh 10:07:00 <|amethyst> as far as gods are concerned, it wasn't you who shot 10:07:03 because if I reflect a poison bolt and it kills I don't get hammered 10:07:04 ok 10:07:14 thats acceptable 10:07:20 but it does say 10:07:24 TSO accepts your kill 10:07:31 <|amethyst> oh, it does? hm 10:07:51 mechanics somewhere 10:07:53 <|amethyst> you do get XP, so I guess there are a number of ways for it to be inconsistent 10:08:13 they launched a dishonourable attack which you countered 10:08:14 <|amethyst> I guess that's worth a bug report 10:08:26 not your fault 10:08:27 <|amethyst> that you do get piety but don't get healing from it 10:08:30 this was a while ago 10:08:36 I 15 runed that game 10:08:57 -!- NomadJim_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09:34 <|amethyst> !lm . rune x=cdist(noun) 10:09:35 48 milestones for |amethyst (rune): cdist(noun)=7 10:11:33 bug report: I am playing a DeFi and killing things in melee 10:11:34 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12:02 <|amethyst> bug report: players think that is a bug 10:12:48 they do apparently 10:12:55 I found the elemental staff though 10:13:04 so i'm bonking things with my staff of ALL THE RESISTS 10:14:28 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15:02 does the elemental staff overcome targets resistances? 10:16:04 -!- ByronJoh1son is now known as ByronJohnson 10:17:23 <|amethyst> !source _calc_elemental_staff_damage 10:17:23 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/art-func.h;hb=HEAD#l952 10:18:14 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:42 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:21:22 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21:26 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:21:38 I do not understand that 10:22:05 <|amethyst> it applies the resistance, or AC if it selects earth 10:22:36 <|amethyst> which is the same as how the bonus damage from ordinary elemental enhancer staves works 10:23:17 <|amethyst> it's just the the ELEMENTAL_STAFF does bigger damage to begin with 10:23:48 <|amethyst> 1d15+9 damage 10:23:56 The trigger chance looks arcane as hell though. 10:24:29 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:24:29 <|amethyst> that should probably be a bernoulli call 10:25:22 two shots 10:25:29 100% chance at evoc 27 10:25:37 is what I read it as 10:26:13 oh 10:26:47 that is one stealthy not-parenthesis construction 10:28:26 -!- CacoS has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:28:32 now it makes sense 10:29:24 <|amethyst> overall chance is 2*evo/27 - evo^2/729 10:29:28 (the alternative was "if !(1d(27*27) < evoc*27) or (1d(27*27) < evoc*27)" which made no sense at all) 10:30:41 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31:43 http://anydice.com/program/52e6 now it looks okay 10:35:33 <|amethyst> yeah, that agrees with the number I got (80.24% for evo 15) 10:41:46 |amethyst: Making scoring use Sequell's db makes sense, but it would need some rewriting 10:41:53 -!- greensna1k is now known as greensnark 10:42:19 The scoring schema is quite different from Sequell's 10:42:37 <|amethyst> ah 10:42:52 Shouldn't be too big a task though 10:43:11 Doing something like tourney would be more painful 10:43:25 Where one player's actions can affect another player's page by taking away banners and stuff 10:43:32 <|amethyst> I think tourney is fine, elliptic's never reported problems with that 10:44:16 -!- MrScumbag1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:44:24 <|amethyst> and it only runs four weeks out of the year :) 10:44:52 Where is the latest scoring code? 10:45:59 <|amethyst> let me see if I've pushed it anywhere 10:51:45 |amethyst: problems with what? 10:51:54 <|amethyst> greensnark: https://github.com/neilmoore/dcss_scoring 10:52:28 <|amethyst> elliptic: the dcss_scoring scripts on CAO occasionally crap out, freeze up while fetching, lose the connection to the DB, skip games, etc 10:53:14 yeah, I'm not aware of the tourney scripts having that type of problem 10:54:54 |amethyst: Thanks 10:55:28 I used to have issues with endlessly blocked wget processes too 10:55:42 <|amethyst> greensnark: this has happened with CPO in particular several times 10:55:45 I had to stop using wget 10:55:47 Yes 10:55:53 <|amethyst> greensnark: usually stuff just times out, not not that 10:56:07 I hit issues with csn before 10:56:12 Very similar 10:56:39 I'm much happier with the go downloader which is tolerant of misbehaving servers 10:58:24 <|amethyst> I guess maybe I should have rewritten those commits to be authored by me before pushing 10:58:30 <|amethyst> 'root' is kind of embarassing :) 10:58:53 <|amethyst> not even sure why it runs as root and not just rax 10:59:08 <|amethyst> err, oops, sorry for the ping :) 11:00:11 https://i.imgflip.com/h2yr3.jpg 11:00:20 <|amethyst> heh 11:00:33 <|amethyst> !learn add |amethyst https://i.imgflip.com/h2yr3.jpg 11:00:34 |amethyst[21/21]: https://i.imgflip.com/h2yr3.jpg 11:08:43 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:13:34 -!- johnf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:40 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:26 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26:29 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3880-g9314259 (34) 11:31:35 -!- cykeltillsalu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:34 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:38:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:56:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:59 -!- hhkb has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:58:22 -!- hhkb has quit [Client Quit] 11:59:15 -!- hhkb has quit [Client Quit] 11:59:42 -!- hhkb has quit [Client Quit] 12:00:52 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:04:45 hmm 12:04:57 can increasing your int actually decrease your spellcasting chances? 12:05:19 no 12:05:54 <|amethyst> if (apply_intel) power = (power * you.intel()) / 10; 12:05:58 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:06:31 ah 12:06:38 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:06:40 yeah I leveled and got an int boost 12:06:44 and my casting percentages went down 12:08:36 <|amethyst> the percentage displayed is the failure rate 12:08:38 -!- gressup has quit [] 12:08:39 <|amethyst> going down is good 12:13:57 -!- markgo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:17:28 no 12:17:33 as in failure rate increased 12:18:19 <|amethyst> what numbers before and after, what skills and stats, do you worship veh, any mutations or equipment that affect fail rates or power? 12:19:29 39->40 12:19:37 was the only change 12:20:26 <|amethyst> what int and skills, and what's the spell? 12:20:50 and what shield/armor 12:21:21 scale 12:21:23 large shield 12:21:29 lightning bolt 12:21:32 int 45 now due to gear changes 12:21:47 16.3 SC 12.8 AM 12:21:47 <|amethyst> what gear changes? 12:21:51 ring 12:22:04 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 12:22:43 AtomikKrab: |amethyst wants your exact setup when you levelled up 12:22:53 <|amethyst> yeah, a dump would be easiest 12:23:13 <|amethyst> at the very least I also need your str, armour skill, shields skill 12:23:19 <|amethyst> and conj 12:23:40 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:23:48 <|amethyst> but I wonder if the old ring had something on it that would make a difference 12:23:52 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Atomikkrab/Atomikkrab.txt 12:23:55 <|amethyst> did you trade a str ring for an int ring? 12:24:04 well int ring is -str ring 12:24:10 <|amethyst> that could do it then 12:24:11 so kinda 12:24:14 but i'm chei 12:24:18 so my str is still huge 12:24:20 <|amethyst> -str worsens your shield and armour penalty 12:24:31 but bad purple dropped it more 12:24:32 anyway 12:24:36 gained .1 air magic 12:24:41 and 4 percentage drop on failure 12:24:45 12.8-12.9 12:24:48 <|amethyst> so it's at least theoretically possible for that to cancel out the benefit of the +int 12:25:02 <|amethyst> yeah, failure rates aren't very smooth 12:25:11 (Which is really weird, tbh.) 12:25:15 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:16 <|amethyst> there is a very weird piecewise constant stepdown-like function 12:26:57 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:28:31 <|amethyst> and then even that number isn't the actual failure rather 12:28:36 <|amethyst> s/rather/rate/ 12:32:04 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:32:40 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:35:05 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:35:21 -!- markgo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:40:28 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:31 _Your orc wizard nervously looks. 12:45:31 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:38 <|amethyst> dpeg: hm that's @The_monster@ nervously looks @at_foe@. 12:47:26 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:47:43 <|amethyst> dpeg: also, that should be VISUAL: 12:53:57 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:56:07 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:56:29 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 12:57:17 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 13:03:13 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:03:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:06:08 yes :( 13:06:21 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:53 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:13:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:14:32 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:14:55 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:22 |amethyst: should I file a bug report? 13:20:42 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:22:04 Speaking of little things, the textbox for entering the amount of repetitions when you press 0/Insert disappears when you press backspace in webtiles. 13:22:13 although the input still works 13:22:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3881-g6d0ab14: Changelog through 0.16-a0-3880-g9314259 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 28+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d0ab1468dee 13:23:03 <|amethyst> dpeg: working on it now 13:23:36 |amethyst: you rock! 13:23:47 that message should probably have "nervously" at the end anyway 13:23:49 I will add orc speech lines for you :) 13:24:11 at least to me, "The orc wizard looks at Sigmund nervously" sounds more natural than "The orc wizard looks nervously at Sigmund" 13:24:23 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:44 Adverbs are indeed best placed either before the verb or after the object of the verb. 13:25:46 -!- markgo` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27:25 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:28:59 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:57 -!- WildSam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:34:00 ??wheals[sprunge 13:34:01 wheals[5/8]: http://sprunge.us/UTNJ 13:34:11 ??wheals[6 13:34:12 wheals[6/8]: http://sprunge.us/SLGI 13:34:24 dpeg: ^^ that's my jiyva/disso patch 13:36:25 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:37:27 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:38:27 wheals: is there any reason not to apply this? 13:38:32 It'd bolster lore a bit! 13:38:44 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3882-g306b85f: Allow @at_foe/around@ in monster speech. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 56+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=306b85f582db 13:38:44 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3883-gc8623b9: Improve an orc speech line (dpeg, wheals) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8623b946662 13:38:47 gammafunk made fun of my speech lines 13:39:09 ....wow 13:39:13 and you made me read those AGAIN 13:39:14 <|amethyst> dpeg: the @foo/bar@ alternative syntax only works with @to_foe@ and @at_foe@ at the moment, but might be useful 13:39:16 thanks wheals 13:39:59 i thought most of them were bad but i really did like @The_monster@ asks, "Have you ever considered the benefits of atheism?" 13:40:13 -!- NomadJim_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:41:08 some of the orc speech lines are really cheesy, too... best not to worry about it too much -- he who cannot stand some line at all, can also make a better one 13:41:26 wheals: yes, thanks! 13:46:03 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 13:48:56 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3884-g0a5f664: Update a changelog entry 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a5f664a53dc 13:49:55 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:52:23 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:53:31 |amethyst: i wonder if that would be simpler with regexes? 13:54:02 C++11 has those in the stdlib, i understand 13:54:29 <|amethyst> wheals: unfortunately not all the libstdc++ versions we support have working regexes 13:54:34 <|amethyst> ISTR gcc 4.7 in particular was missing a lot 13:54:48 <|amethyst> we could use posix or PCRE since we have those already 13:54:59 <|amethyst> but we don't yet have a common interface for doing substitutions 13:55:12 <|amethyst> afaik: I didn't notice anything in pattern.h 13:56:04 <|amethyst> (we have to support both Posix and PCRE with one interface, that is, because we assume you have one but don't care which) 13:56:38 <|amethyst> I'd be in favour of making PCRE a hard dependency, personally 13:57:28 that would probably simplify things on the player's end too 13:57:33 <|amethyst> kilobyte objected last time I suggested it, but Posix is just so limited, in terms of not having lookahead, nice character classes, etc. 13:57:58 <|amethyst> it would let us do smarter things in the default menu colours etc 13:58:23 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:59:26 <|amethyst> and, yeah, players wouldn't have to worry about their RC ceasing to work when they change OS or build 14:00:14 <|amethyst> (also, I am offended that Windows players get better regexp support by default than Linux players :P 14:01:01 i guess one problem is having to try to decode the Makefile :P 14:01:11 <|amethyst> woo, I'm #3 now! 14:01:26 <|amethyst> Years of tiny commits and bugfixes of bugfixes have paid off! 14:01:43 did ely changes push marvinpa back past me? 14:01:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:01:52 ..rip 14:01:57 <|amethyst> yes 14:02:01 <|amethyst> ??millimarvin 14:02:02 millimarvin[1/1]: 7.489 net lines of code removed (as of 2014-12-06) 14:02:24 <|amethyst> !learn s millimarvin[1] 7.923 net lines of code removed (as of 2015-02-01) 14:02:25 millimarvin[1/1]: 7.923 net lines of code removed (as of 2015-02-01) 14:02:42 <|amethyst> just updated http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/ 14:02:44 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:23 <|amethyst> I have net +1.06 lines per commit 14:03:47 <|amethyst> I don't actually do code, just commit messages 14:04:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:04:51 |amethyst: remember dolorous? 14:05:27 <|amethyst> dpeg: he has net +1.79 lines per commit :) 14:05:43 formatting fixes usually split up lines :P 14:06:40 <|amethyst> Among people with > 100 commits, Cryptic is the most balanced (-169 net lines, +16613 -16782) 14:07:06 and most unbalanced? 14:07:31 rip me being most balanced 14:07:36 need to go remove some things 14:07:44 remove circles 14:07:44 <|amethyst> dpeg: peterb12 +157871 -2759 but that's a special case 14:07:49 yeah 14:07:54 MarvinPA: that could work 14:08:08 also: - Ru's abilities can be used while silenced. 14:08:12 <|amethyst> dpeg: in absolute terms, greensnark at +406450 - 215322 14:08:17 this is a thing i would never have learned if i hadn't read the changelog 14:08:25 wait why can Ru abilities be used while silenced? 14:08:27 is there a reason for it? 14:08:32 <|amethyst> dpeg: ene has a 3:1 ratio 14:08:36 <|amethyst> dpeg: enne 14:08:40 I certainly didn't know that either 14:08:46 <|amethyst> dpeg: evilmike 5:1 14:09:09 <|amethyst> dpeg: maybe I should tweak my gitstats further to have a ratio column in addition to net 14:09:22 ??gitstats 14:09:27 gitstats[1/3]: http://www.ohloh.net/p/stonesoup 14:09:43 !learn swap gitstats[1] gitstats[2] 14:09:44 Swapped gitstats[1] with gitstats[2]. 14:09:47 ??gitstats[3 14:09:48 gitstats[3/3]: Sunday is not a day of rest, but August is: http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/activity.html 14:11:15 <|amethyst> I wish those didn't scale the bottom of the axis 14:11:31 <|amethyst> they're like exaggerated politician graphs 14:12:10 2009: more lines cut than added -- what was it? 14:12:18 contribs 14:12:22 <|amethyst> yeah 14:12:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:12:29 <|amethyst> that's why neunon is the most negative 14:12:45 <|amethyst> this doesn't count submodules 14:12:55 <|amethyst> before that, they were in the main repository 14:12:55 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:35 thx 14:24:47 <|amethyst> dpeg: Now with a sortable Ratio (+lines/-lines) column: http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/authors.html 14:25:49 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:25:51 <|amethyst> dpeg: looks like kilobyte is almost as close to neutral as cryptic (1.025 vs 0.990); elliptic tied with by at 1.064 14:26:28 What the hell happened in January 2014. 14:26:33 <|amethyst> dpeg: and haranp at 0.956 14:26:42 Bloax: DO came back, i guess? 14:27:12 also the new ds 14:27:16 also formicids, i think 14:28:37 <|amethyst> ah 14:28:43 <|amethyst> "Rename languages to ll_CC" 14:28:53 <|amethyst> then 'Revert "Rename languages to ll_CC"' 14:29:17 <|amethyst> those account for about 160,000 lines + and - 14:29:23 heh 14:29:27 <|amethyst> 164,000 14:29:28 eoc causing controversy again 14:29:42 or maybe he wasn't actually involved 14:30:29 <|amethyst> I don't think he was directly involved, but galehar thought using gettext would be better than not 14:31:04 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:31:07 <|amethyst> kilobyte was opposed to gettext, though as far as I can tell his real objection was "it doesn't do enough" which is true 14:31:54 <|amethyst> but I'm not sure that's a reason not to use it for the things it does handle 14:36:57 what was the objection to ll_CC, though? 14:37:16 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38:22 <|amethyst> %git e8b8e78 14:38:22 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1787-ge8b8e78: Revert "Rename languages to ll_CC" 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 466 files, 81866+ 81870-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8b8e78ba2d8 14:38:47 <|amethyst> "makes things more complicated for no benefit" 14:39:58 -!- FIQ has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 14:43:08 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47:56 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:15 -!- spacet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:36 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51:52 -!- CacoS has quit [Client Quit] 14:54:19 -!- NomadJim_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:57:16 -!- hhkb has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:04:35 -!- fiq has quit [Changing host] 15:04:47 -!- fiq is now known as FIQ 15:05:15 -!- cykeltillsalu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:36 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:11:29 -!- Guest49820 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:14:28 -!- ebering_ is now known as ebering 15:19:09 -!- Maud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:47 -!- Kramin42 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:15 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:11 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:34 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:47 -!- cykeltillsalu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40:20 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49:44 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:51:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:51:36 So apparently scrolls of fog can give you almost no clouds if you're on a level with a lot of clouds already: 15:51:40 try !lg hungryhippo -tv:<2 15:51:55 he got 3 clouds from a scroll I think 15:52:04 according to the ldb you get 8-15 15:52:12 Seems like a bug to me? 15:52:32 Kramin: did it attempt to place clouds where there were already clouds or did it hit the limit on the number of clouds for the level? 15:53:00 there weren't any clouds in there already, was in geh 15:53:18 with a lot of lava around but he was in a hallway 15:53:20 ??footv 15:53:20 FooTV[1/5]: telnet termcast.develz.org (and then select the letter for FooTV), or http://termcast.develz.org. Do not use SSH. Shows games requested using !tv. Request games by adding -tv to !lg or !lm. Cancel games by adding -tv:cancel to the same command-line, clear playlist with !lg * -tv:nuke 15:53:23 !lg hungryhippo -tv:<2 15:53:31 !lg hungryhippo -tv:<2 15:53:32 1. HUNGRYHIPPO, XL27 GhWz, T:84646 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:53:39 thanks 15:54:34 here it comes 15:54:45 there 15:54:50 he got 3 clouds 15:54:53 huh. That's not much smoke 15:55:31 its been in crawl for a long time! i assume theres some cloud limit; you can get ?fog that doesnt create any clouds on you at all 15:56:08 !source MAX_CLOUD 15:56:09 Can't find MAX_CLOUD. 15:56:14 !source MAX_CLOUDS 15:56:15 Can't find MAX_CLOUDS. 15:56:18 hm 15:56:21 if we want to keep the cloud limit, we should evict the most distant clouds rather than refusing to make new clouds 15:57:10 600 is the max 15:57:21 i find it rather hard to believe that was actually reached 15:58:17 pretty feasible on levels with lots of lava, it used to get hit all the time with the lava cross layout iirc 15:59:06 1 out of 9 squares cloudy 15:59:22 MarvinPA: yes, i actually cited that as my example where i encountered the problem tiwce 15:59:55 is there a good reason to have a cloud limit? 16:01:49 if you want to refactor cloud.cc to not use the index in the env.cloud as a way to refer to clouds, be my guest 16:03:05 -!- CacoS has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:05:29 wheals: how hard could it be...? 16:05:37 1learn add famous_last_words 16:05:50 :) 16:06:04 grep for cloud_no, as a start 16:06:48 i imagine that most of the time, a map would use less memory than the current cgrid and env.cloud 16:07:18 hm. looks tedious but doable 16:07:37 The amount of memory we're using on clouds should be immaterial 16:08:21 !tell Grunt should book of the warp be cheaper now that it doesn't have cblink? 16:08:22 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:08:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:04 I don't even remember how book prices are set 16:09:11 was it a function of rarity? 16:09:18 oh, it probably is 16:09:39 so can we use this as an excuse to get rid of lava smoke? I've been trying to get rid of lava smoke for ages without even knowing about this sort of thing :P 16:10:20 -!- maldini has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:10:30 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 16:11:25 let's do that 16:15:11 last time this came up arguments about hellion island came up 16:15:21 but I wouldn't object to just removing hellion island 16:15:53 you can just keep hellion island and not have lava smoke too 16:15:59 !lg * br=pan kmap!= s=kmap 16:16:00 657 games for * (br=pan kmap!=): 71x lemuel_hellion_island, 50x cerebov, 44x cerebov_grunt, 39x evilmike_holy_pan, 36x cerebov_st, 33x evilmike_cerebov_lava, 21x gloorx_vloq_st, 17x lemuel_hall_of_pain, 15x evilmike_mini_pan_diamond, 15x evilmike_gloorx_vloq_box, 12x evilmike_mini_pan_possible_glass, 12x evilmike_mini_pan_branches, 12x evilmike_mini_pan_pillars, 11x grunt_pan_pentagram, 11x nicola... 16:16:20 !lg * recent br=pan kmap!= s=kmap 16:16:21 316 games for * (recent br=pan kmap!=): 37x lemuel_hellion_island, 23x cerebov, 21x cerebov_grunt, 16x evilmike_holy_pan, 14x evilmike_cerebov_lava, 14x cerebov_st, 8x lemuel_hall_of_pain, 8x grunt_pan_pentagram, 7x gloorx_vloq_st, 7x rand_demon_6, 7x evilmike_mini_pan_doors, 6x lom_lobon_grunt, 6x evilmike_mnoleg_eyes, 6x evilmike_mini_pan_possible_glass, 6x grunt_pan_spiral, 5x evilmike_mini_pan... 16:16:27 <|amethyst> could put a smoke generator in hellion island specifically 16:16:29 still numba one 16:16:30 or just jam... ^ that 16:16:37 simmarine: the argument, IIRC, was that the smoke was important for hellion island to be a good vault. I don't necessarily agree, so I can't reproduce the argument 16:16:51 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:03 roctavian spotted 16:17:23 Hello I 16:17:32 Ah phones 16:17:38 flawless timing. 16:19:13 So what tiles should I make sure to do, before next release? 16:19:20 all of them. 16:19:22 roctavian: all... 16:19:22 <3 16:19:24 hi bh... 16:19:25 dammit, I need to type faster 16:19:54 hello... 16:20:30 <|amethyst> do the new sacrifices (skill + XP) need tiles? 16:20:41 <|amethyst> changed ely abilities? 16:20:59 |amethyst: ontocl@sm already did tiles for it 16:21:02 My own agenda is probably quokka, porcupine, and maybe iguana 16:21:02 <|amethyst> ah 16:21:03 for Ru anyway 16:21:11 not sure about Ely 16:21:16 <|amethyst> roctavian: lesser and greater heal other have been merged 16:21:30 roctavian: if you want to implement anything, please make some new floor/wall tiles for use with wang tiles 16:21:30 i don't think ely abilities do, heal other currently uses the old greater heal other icon 16:21:35 <|amethyst> ah 16:21:48 <|amethyst> wasn't sure if it had some indication of "greater" on it that might not be appropriate 16:21:51 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:22:02 Old greater heal tile is probably fine 16:22:28 <|amethyst> ah, cool 16:22:47 bh I was thinking of doing wall floors for zigs, first 16:24:04 The problem with wang tiles is the potential for information leak, under a number of circumstances 16:24:16 -!- Maud has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:24:16 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:34 Like being able to tell where a wall may end, if wall tiles visually connect 16:25:44 You could predict that the next time out of sight must be a wall, or floor, if walls indicate things like corners 16:26:13 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:26:14 oh, roctavian, how's the bennu coming along 16:26:38 Looks like a silly stork, still 16:26:53 roctavian: they won't info leak. Walls and floors will have the same colors 16:27:00 you'll just be able to have features across seams 16:27:53 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:28:10 Lasty: a single vault (in Pan, at that) should definitely not be a consideration at all IMO for this sort of thing (or most things) 16:28:46 like we don't go around changing the rest of crawl just so that a single vault will work better 16:29:03 unless it's minivault_9 16:29:09 what's a minivault_9 16:29:10 someday i'll get around to fixing runed doors... 16:29:17 rip minivault_9 16:29:24 But unless it is fine for features to _not_ connect across seams as well, it would let tiles players infer things that console players cannot 16:29:43 -!- Bloax is now known as Bloax_ 16:30:14 roctavian: suppose you had a wall with a tapestry spanning a boundary 16:30:43 An adjacent wall would have a tapestry, an adjacent floor would have the tapestry dangling off the wall 16:31:11 Right 16:31:48 So either you have to make the features invisible unless both the wall and floor are visible simultaneously 16:32:05 this would be easier to explain if I weren't a terrible artist :) 16:32:16 I get it 16:32:48 It's just that if you see a floor tile with a half tapestry, you know the next offscreen tile is a wall 16:33:22 or the whole tapestry is on the floor 16:34:40 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:35:05 I suppose that can work 16:35:43 But I generally expect wall and floor tiles to be distinct enough, brightness wise 16:36:17 For a single feature to look good on both 16:36:35 That'd be on me though 16:39:01 Do you think you could make these features work as overlays with transparency? Otherwise we might end up doubling or tripling the number of floor and wall tiles in game 16:40:21 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:40:40 hrm, that's an interesting idea 16:42:10 the real solution might be to write a texture synthesizer to expand whatever tiles you hand draw 16:42:14 but that's a bit complex 16:42:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:11 -!- roctavian has quit [Quit: roctavian] 16:44:59 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:51:42 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:52 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:43 I'll try out a few things and send 16:54:05 *them to you, bh 16:54:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:55:11 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:56:48 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:40 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3884-g0a5f664 (34) 17:05:53 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:09:15 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09:51 there's an implementable on mantis to add tiles for every monster spell 17:10:37 -!- WildSam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:10:41 It will be done someday 17:11:24 there's also #8799 17:12:17 %bug 8799 17:12:17 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8799 17:12:21 which i guess is just doll tiles for hand xbow and doll tiles + artefact tiles for xxxbow/greatsling now 17:12:25 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:16 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:18:54 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:19:41 ironheart preserver descriptions still say "shrouded in heavy armour" even though PleasingFungus changed them to have light armour and more HP 17:22:13 const int HIGH_EXP_POOL = 20000; 17:22:15 -!- roctavian has quit [Quit: roctavian] 17:22:27 !tell Lasty how is smoke useful in any way for hellion island wtf 17:22:27 minmay: OK, I'll let lasty know. 17:22:48 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:50 <|amethyst> wheals: used only by &s now 17:24:19 minmay, looked to me like he was relaying *and disagreeing with* someone else's assessment that it was necessary 17:25:25 |amethyst: if anyone's ever used &s :P 17:25:41 -!- roctavian has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:50 i use &s 17:26:22 only because of sif gifts, admittedly 17:27:46 <|amethyst> you can use &- for gifts 17:28:10 -!- jark has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:29:54 |amethyst: I wanted to see how many sif gifts you got for training all magic skills from 0 to 27 at once, though 17:30:04 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 17:30:04 <|amethyst> ah 17:30:38 summon up some test spawners, &zdebugging 17:32:54 i guess the xp cap is the problem there 17:33:28 we should remove the xp cap :P 17:35:43 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:48 !seen medar 17:35:48 I last saw Medar at Sun Feb 1 03:45:49 2015 UTC (19h 49m 59s ago) saying 'Right, I see.' on ##crawl-dev. 17:36:13 !seen PleasingFungus 17:36:13 I last saw PleasingFungus at Sun Feb 1 23:35:48 2015 UTC (25s ago) saying '!seen medar' on ##crawl-dev. 17:36:17 !seen Grunt 17:36:18 I last saw Grunt at Sun Feb 1 23:36:13 2015 UTC (5s ago) saying '!seen PleasingFungus' on ##crawl-dev. 17:36:22 !seen Grunt 17:36:22 Sorry Grunt, that person is dead. 17:36:25 rip 17:37:21 !tell medar the webtiles weapon line wrapped across multiple lines with or without my last change, fwiw 17:37:21 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let medar know. 17:37:59 -!- NotMyLeg has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:39:44 !tell MarvinPA http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-23-january-2015/comment-page-1#comment-2060 17:39:45 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 17:43:48 minmay, elliptic: again, not -my- argument. I don't care about hellion island. 17:43:48 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:43:56 what the hellion. 17:44:25 I care about hellion island 17:44:40 blah blah blah put patrolling fire bats and crimson imps over the lava blah blah blah 17:45:00 PleasingFungus (042) | Spd: 12 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 10 | 05demonic, 10doors | Res: 06magic(60), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 383 | Sp: hellfire burst (3d15) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 17:45:00 %?? hellion name:PleasingFungus n_rpl 17:45:06 !send theTower more blah 17:45:07 Sending more blah to theTower. 17:45:11 is this what I get for not doing anything for a while, repeats of the same not-difficult vault problems 17:45:20 I need a clone 17:46:09 your last commit was a year ago!!! 17:46:28 don't tempt me 17:46:37 !send theTower temptation 17:46:38 Sending temptation to theTower. 17:47:02 besides that's the wrong card 17:47:03 !send the edge PleasingFungus 17:47:03 Sending PleasingFungus to the edge. 17:48:14 let's have a crawl dev meetup 17:48:23 where we discuss, in-person, new and inventive ways to make players suffer 17:48:23 then I can strangle wensley irl 17:48:33 s|players|other devs| 17:48:49 rude. 17:49:05 PleasingFungus: nah I totally into subbing 17:49:19 tmi imo 17:49:25 theTower and I usually play out our fantasies over pm 17:49:44 Towering figures bursting with tough muscle, preservers safeguard their allies... <- someone come up with a better phrase than "bursting with tough muscle" 17:49:52 hahahaha 17:49:58 since when were you allowed to say that out loud 17:50:03 "bristling with juicy tendons" 17:50:06 mmm 17:50:14 theTower: I'm sorry, master 17:50:15 "Towering, muscular figures, [...]" 17:50:35 I'll take it 17:50:56 rippling pectorals 17:51:12 abdomens for days 17:51:30 Towering, muscular figures, constantly flexing their pecs and posing, 17:51:36 ship it. 17:51:52 preservers safeguard their allies when they're not too busy getting swole 17:52:06 PleasingFungus: work "swole" in there 17:52:10 too late :( 17:52:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3885-g020803b: Update preservers' description (Brannock, Grunt) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=020803bed8d5 17:53:17 PleasingFungus: it looks like only some summons from shtraps give messages 17:53:25 give messages? 17:53:26 Shadows whirl around you... 17:53:26 An ogre comes into view. It is wielding a giant club. 17:53:26 The orc shouts! x2 17:53:26 The orc priest shouts! The orc shouts! The orc priest shouts! 17:53:26 _The orc priest shouts! 17:53:33 so why was He removed when the starting piety for He would still allow for pacification from turn 1? 17:53:34 the ogre was summoned as well 17:53:47 (also, ooooo 5 orc priests) 17:54:09 !seen Sequell 17:54:09 Sorry Lightli, I haven't seen sequell. 17:54:14 !seen Lightli 17:54:15 I last saw Lightli at Sun Feb 1 23:54:09 2015 UTC (5s ago) saying '!seen Sequell' on ##crawl-dev. 17:54:16 wheals: say it out loud 17:54:43 * Grunt hits johnny0 with the +4 arc blade {discharge, rElec}. 17:55:00 eh 17:55:02 johnny0: I'm kind of okay with it being that powerful now, but I want to see it in action <3 17:55:20 the shadow trap code doesn't actually print any messages for monsters appearing 17:55:32 anyway, I thought someone was gonna remove those 17:55:38 i like them 17:55:49 I have never heard of them but they sound delightful 17:56:17 I mean, have we removed humans yet 17:56:19 really 17:56:28 until you remove humans, you have no right to remove literally anything else from the game 17:56:29 o 17:56:33 lasty and elliptic both hated them 17:56:35 last I heard 17:56:38 lol 17:56:39 and I've lost all energy 17:56:41 as implemented, yes 17:56:43 don't forget crate 17:56:46 he really hates humans too 17:56:49 also, remove humans? You monster. 17:56:56 !remove Lasty 17:56:57 Lasty: yes, that is the point 17:56:59 Hated shadow traps, not humans 17:57:07 I, monster 17:57:13 !learn edit gammafunk[3] s/NaVM\^Chei // 17:57:13 gammafunk[3/12]: MiBe^(Trog->TSO->Zin;15-rune) DEAs^Kiku HOFE^Beogh 17:57:17 -!- Bloax_ is now known as Bloax 17:57:18 Grunt: hmm, maybe check out my spee orb milestone on !tv 17:57:19 thank goodness that's over with 17:57:31 !lg gammafunk won 17:57:32 26. gammafunk the Warrior (L27 NaVM of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-02-01 23:55:36, with 1566026 points after 79388 turns and 7:37:23. 17:57:40 !lm johnny0 spee orb -tv:<10.0:x3:channel=shockingturnofevents 17:57:40